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Already doesn't mean that you live around crime

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and violence necessarily, but they are correlated.

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I mean, in my case, it was at least true that

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living in these poor neighborhoods also meant

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that I can face to face with situations that

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I imagine people in probably wealthier neighborhoods

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don't face. I know this just because I had friends

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in high school that lived in nicer neighborhoods.

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If I shared any of my stories, then they would

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probably be shocked or not be able to make sense

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of it. Of course, the violence comes in degrees.

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And to be honest, I'm aware that some people

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are exposed to violence and crime in ways that...

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I haven't been like, I don't know what it's like

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to be in a war torn community where you're dreading

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bombs being dropped on you on a daily. And for

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sure, I didn't live in a neighborhood where,

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you know, the police timers were going off like

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every day. It wasn't quite that. So like I said,

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it comes in degrees. So I'm only going to speak

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to my own experience. And I'm sure that some

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of it might resonate, but maybe to a larger or

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lesser extent, depending on your circumstances.

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But my first encounter with violence, with the

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possibility that danger could lurk at any given

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corner, happened when I was in, I believe, second

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grade. I remember that, I mean, it was a pretty

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vivid experience, so I have a hard time kind

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of forgetting some of these details. And I might

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get some of the details wrong, but I do remember

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that my dad had recently purchased a car. It

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was a minivan. I think it was a Dodge Grand Caravan

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or something like that. And was going back and

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had purchased it. and was bringing it back home

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to pick up my mom, my brother, and myself to

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take us to church. So this is back when we were

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in Koreatown. It was in the evening. The sun

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had set, so there wasn't light out. But it wasn't

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pitch black because you had street lights. But

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street lights were street lights. It only lit

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up a certain few areas. My mom wanted us to wait

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outside. Knowing what I know now, that probably

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was not a smart idea. But if you understood,

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if you knew my mom, then it would make a lot

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of sense because she is not the most aware of

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her situation. She doesn't have that quality

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about her. So she might not have been very aware

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herself of the kind of potential danger that

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she was placing us in. I mean, it's not like

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we lived in a safe area. It was a section of

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Koreatown that had regular break -ins and assaults.

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Like, I mean, hell, I remember our home in Koreatown

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was broken into at least twice that I know of.

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My dad, wise or not, chased the perpetrators

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in both cases to no avail. Apparently, he was

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running around at one point, just around the

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block again and again. And I think they just

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stole some silverware or something before he

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heard something downstairs, caught them, and

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then tried to chase him down. My mom should know

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that that area is not safe because she had cash

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straight up snatched from her hands and this

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was just down the block. I mean it was in broad

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daylight and nothing happened because you know

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like I don't know what about this group of people

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but I do remember that there was like an apartment

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complex that was down the street just a few doors

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down and there are always people loitering out

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there during the day and you know I think, like,

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I don't remember very well. I just remember that

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there was something, like, a feeling I had that

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there was stuff going down there that, you know,

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it wasn't normal people going to, I shouldn't

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say normal, but it wasn't people, like, just

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going to their normal nine -to -five jobs and

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coming back home and just, you know, living out

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their lives. There was some sort of activity

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there that was probably illegal. happening. I

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think I just heard through the grapevines that

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that was not an area that I should actually walk

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to as a kid. If I were to stay away from an area

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it would be down the street in that direction.

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The other direction not as bad but that direction

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not the safest. So like I said my mom I mean

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she's experienced all this so my mom clearly

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isn't the best at being aware of the situation

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if you know she's letting us just stay outside

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in the dark. Waiting at night for a car to come

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pick us up. The point is it was not the kind

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of area where you Probably would think to stay

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out there and feel particularly safe You shouldn't

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probably walk around alone at night Maybe in

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a group. It'll be a little bit better and within

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certain stretches of the street. Maybe it'll

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be okay but for the most part probably not the

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place you want to just like You know loiter around

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at night in the dark And here I was with my mom

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and my brother. My brother at the time, if I

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was a second grade man, he was like in kindergarten,

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maybe. Yeah, around kindergarten. We're waiting

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outside. Immediately we noticed that there's

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a man carving into the plastic trash bins. You

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know, the ones that you leave outside for trash

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pickup. So I guess he was carving into the ones

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that belong to our home. And my mom, being who

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she is and completely unaware of the situation,

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decides to confront the man and says, like, hey,

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you shouldn't do this. This is not OK to do.

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I don't remember the exact details of what happened

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after that. What I do remember is that this man

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turned the knife towards us, telling us that

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he'll do whatever he wants to. I had no idea

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what was going on with this man, but what I remember

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vividly was the image of the shine of the knife's

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edge as he was just waved it just inches from

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my neck. Right? I mean, he wasn't like putting

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it up against my neck, but he was just waving

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around that close. And that image to this day

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is still burned in my mind. Luckily, my dad arrived

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not too long after, and we just rushed in to

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get into the car and getting out. But this became

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a theme in my time at Creatown and then again

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later when I was in Colton. The thing is most

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of the time there wasn't anything particular

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going on. It's not as if like these areas there's

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like crime going on every 10 seconds and then

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the police will have to come like you know every

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month. Especially in the daytime for the most

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part people are just doing whatever they do in

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the day. And nighttime is actually fairly, most

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days, no big deal going on. If there's any domestic

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issues in the home, that's a separate issue.

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But out in the streets, most days there wasn't

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anything in particular. That's not how violence

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left an impression on me. It was not anything

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that was on a daily, but rather it happened enough.

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that you couldn't deny that those things, those

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events were real possibilities, not in theory,

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not on the television, not something that's happening

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elsewhere, but in your own front yard, that this

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is a real possibility. And it happens enough

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to keep you on guard. That's what I learned is

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that it happens enough. And that's all it takes.

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It just happens enough that you start to think

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This is a genuine possibility at any given time

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and it keeps you on your toes At least the area

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of Korea town we were at was kind of like that

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Redlands wasn't and Colton most definitely was

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Now I'm not trying to shit on a whole city I

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don't have any ill feelings towards Colton at

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all. I mean, I hated the area, but mostly it

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was because of my own frustration with being

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poor and my issues with family and the unbearable

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heat in the Inland Empire. Just my shitty life

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that I just really did not like at the time.

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But the city itself, like I have no problems

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with. In fact, you know... It's not as if all

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memories there were all bad, right? Some of it

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was actually fairly good, right? For instance,

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I know we lived across a park where there were

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these, I think they were little league games.

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I'm not sure. I never bothered to ask. But there

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were kids that would play baseball games, right?

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And this was at nighttime. But I felt perfectly

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safe to go there during the nighttime when the

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park was lit up and I would bring my own bat

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and glove and something that my brother and I

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liked to kind of play together. as we watched

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as well. Sometimes we get nachos at the concession

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stand because, you know, these are not things

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that we could get at home. So if we could scrape

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up money to buy nachos, you know, with that plastic

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cheese drizzled all over, right? We do that as

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well. It was something to do and it felt relatively

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safe. And even when it was dark out and on the

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weekends, that same park will be filled with

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like mariachi music and grilled meat. People

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would hang out. Families would hang out. And

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they would have picnics or parties or whatnot.

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And though I was never fond of the police, maybe

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that's a topic to discuss another time, my attitude

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towards the police, the police weren't too far

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away. And I remember my parents trying to build

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good relations with them. So I remember the church

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would have these Thanksgiving meals prepped for

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them and would feed them. And I think it was

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to try to build some good relations there, because

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they were too far away. At the same time, it

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was that very same street that we lived on where

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the police had to come knocking on our door to

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ask for witnesses to crimes, right? Once it was

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for stabbing at the park. It happened in broad

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daylight. Apparently a couple people got at it.

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One person stabbed another person in the ear

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and there's just blood all over the tree trunk.

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You can see the police tape wrapped around that

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area. Another time there was a drive -by shooting

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and apparently our home was one that got hit

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with at least one stray. I don't remember if

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there were more. I just remember that, you know,

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it happened late at night when we were all asleep.

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I don't know if anybody realized that that's

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what it was. But when I saw the bullet hole later

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on, I just thought, man, a foot higher to the

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right, and if I was in the living room, which

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sometimes I was, I slept in the living room at

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night, that could have been me. That was it.

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Then there was a church member who ran a small

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drive -through milk store a block away. It was

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on the same street. You could actually see it

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from our house. And they wanted to know if we

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saw anything. I mean, he was held at gunpoint

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and brought to daylight. He's a little man, visibly

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shook. I think he retired not too long after

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that. You could tell it took a toll on him. And

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it didn't take too long once he closed down business

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for that building to get tagged up. And that

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was the reality I lived in. That's the reality

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that everyone there lived in. And given the demographics

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of that area, which was overwhelmingly Latino

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with a decent number of black people, of course,

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it doesn't surprise me that many of the Korean

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business owners, instead of accounting for more

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nuances to the situation, they began to form

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certain stereotypes. of their own customers.

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I mean, the Korean business owners were the ones

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that ran some of these swap meets, and their

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customers were blacks and Latinos. And they weren't

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even subtle about it. I mean, once I was helping

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a church member at their store doing some menial

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work. It was a store that sold hair products.

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And when a black man walked in, he explicitly

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told me, this is explicitly, this isn't even

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just like sugarcoating it or speaking in code,

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just told me straight up. Walk around, act casual,

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maybe like you're reshelving or reorganizing

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stuff, but watch the customer and make sure he

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doesn't steal anything. And I'll say this, if

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any black and Latino person felt like they were

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being watched while they were shopping at one

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of these mom and pop shops that Koreans were

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running, if you felt like you were being watched,

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you're not paranoid. It was a thing that actually

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happened. I'm guessing they actually were watching

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you. On a side note, this is also why when the

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LA riots broke out after the Ronald King beating,

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I had a hard time empathizing with the Korean

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store owners who had their shops looted. It's

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not that I thought like it was okay to just like

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loot whenever you felt like it, but I was well

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aware of the racial tension and why it was building

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up and particularly why blacks and Latinos might

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have been felt like they were being discriminated

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against or profiled when they were shopping in

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these Korean -owned liquor stores. They weren't

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imagining things. It was there. I also think

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that people forget that... I think it was before

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the Rodney King... beating and all that kind

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of happened. There was also the case of a Korean

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liquor store owner who was let off with just

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probation after shooting Latisha Harlins, I believe

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was her name. It was like a 15 year old black

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girl and shot her in the back. This was not self

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-defense. They shot her in the back, right? That

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was a Korean immigrant community that I knew

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all too well. And so for me, I felt a lot of

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tension in supporting the Korean community through

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any of this, because it's like, well, you know,

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you you bought into a lot of these stereotypes

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and you acted it out. And I can understand why

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black and brown people felt like they were being

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treated a certain way by not white people, but

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by the Korean community that served these areas.

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At first, I couldn't understand what the fuck

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was going on. What was wrong with people? When

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I would see things like this, I was like, why

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are you doing this? Why would we, who all live

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in shit, want to just add more shit onto each

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other's plates? I think maybe some of this had

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to do with my dad's influence. He grew up in

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the countryside of Korea where they didn't have

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much, but there was a strong sense of community.

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I didn't see that. when I was in Colton. If you're

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going to steal, why would you steal from people

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who had money? Why wouldn't you steal from people

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who had money? Why would you go to a small mom

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and pop shop to steal from them? Why would you

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steal from people who just live in the neighborhoods,

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people who are trying to raise a family? If you

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were going to run a business in this area, why

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would you not want to build relations with the

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community instead of being so accusatory towards

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the people who live in that buried community

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you were trying to sell to. Why was everyone

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just out for themselves and willing to do all

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kinds of shady shit and hurt each other, lie

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to each other, steal from each other to get what

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they needed? I don't have an answer for that.

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I'm just saying that these are thoughts that

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have crossed my mind a lot. And, you know, at

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the time I just thought humans were naturally

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selfish. Other times I just thought maybe, you

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know, we just needed a common enemy or something

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to come together and fight against or something.

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I don't know. All I knew was that the store owners

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would think the worst of their customers and

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the customers would think these Korean store

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owners were racist assholes. And, you know, in

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some sense, I think everybody was in the wrong

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to some degree. What I did know was that my dad

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made me read so many biographies and history

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books because he thought that's a way for me

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to gain wisdom. And the thing that was clear

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to me was that people use and form these stereotypes

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very easily, that we as humans tend to not ground

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our beliefs and truths, that everyone needs to

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just check themselves and be humble and slow

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the fuck down before making any judgment calls

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about the other person. Why do I bring all this

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up? Well, what? I see now that I wasn't seeing

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then was that everyone was a product of their

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environment to some degree, to a large degree.

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I mean, it should have been clear to me. I mean,

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at least in that I knew that I was angry because

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of my life circumstances and that I stole and

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lied and cheated because I was pissed off at

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the world for being in this sort of situation.

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So why wouldn't it also apply to other people?

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I'm sure I wouldn't have been as angry or would

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not have acted out in the same way if I had been

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given different opportunities. I never wanted

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to be the way I was. I never wanted to be angry

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and resentful. It's exhausting. It's exhausting

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and it's painful. It takes a lot of energy to

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be angry. And some of the things you see and

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experience start to color your entire perspective

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of the world. in a way that if you don't actively

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combat it, it just kind of is there. It's the

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default mode. And it was true for me. I don't

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know why I didn't see back then that it was probably

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true for everybody else there. I mentioned that

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Knife being swung in front of me in second grade.

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I don't know if it started then, but... You know

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philosophically have always accepted the idea

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that anyone can die at any moment. It's not some

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Grand or a novel idea that humans are mortal

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and life is not predictable in many ways, but

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I don't know many people that actually Live it

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out on a regular basis like that idea becomes

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a part of just how they live it out And I think

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I wonder if that's the difference between you

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know, acknowledging it as some sort of theory

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versus having it just part of be the way that

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you live your life. I imagine it's hard to plan

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for the future if you think that there's actually

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a decent chance. If you really believe in the

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way that you make decisions about your life,

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you really believe that there's a chance that

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there's no tomorrow, a chance that you could

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die at any moment. If you really believe that,

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I imagine that the way that you live your life

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and plan for the future would look very, very

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different. You know, when that drive -by happened,

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I was both angry at my parents for letting me

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live in that kind of a neighborhood, but it also

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embedded me with a sense that tomorrow just isn't

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promised. That's kind of how I felt with the

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people around me. We just all live like that.

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There was like, there was no tomorrow. There

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was no planning long term, whether it was about

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our education or career or finances or even the

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consequences of crime. It was hard to anyways.

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It was hard to plan long term. It was hard to

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plan for the future because when the future is

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that unstable for you, like then you just become

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open to doing things that give you what you need

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in the here and now to the point that maybe it

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seems irrational. If you think of it in long

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term. If you think about it in the long run.

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Things like assaults, robbery, murder, drug use

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or drug dealing. These are all on the table when

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tomorrow is not a concern. Why would I worry

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about drug overdose if today might be the last

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day I get to live and enjoy my life? Why would

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I worry about getting caught tomorrow for a robbery

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when I need stuff now? Why would you worry about

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anything in the future, why would you even be

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thinking about it and planning for it? Might

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as well just try to do what you can do now. Death

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at that point is no longer a theory, it's just

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a reality that you face every day. And viewing

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the world through these lenses makes you want

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to, or at least capable of doing a whole lot

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of shady shit. A whole lot. Just think about

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this, right? Like if If you thought that there

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was no tomorrow, I mean, I've seen these like,

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you know, movies about the world ending, right?

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Or you have like pending apocalypse or something,

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right? And, you know, just look at how people

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act when tomorrow isn't promised. They will engage

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in all kinds of risky, atrocious behaviors towards

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one another. Honestly, there was a time when

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I was absorbed in the music of DMX and Eminem,

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if any of you are familiar with them. I mean,

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I love hip hop as an art form just generally.

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There's a lot in hip hop music that kind of spoke

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to me in my life circumstances, right? But the

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MCs who spoke honestly of the darkness that consumes

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them, those MCs, they spoke to me in a much,

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much deeper way. I mean, I have respect and love

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for the Jay -Zs and Nasas and Tupacs of the world.

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You know, Outkast, I was a big fan of Outkast.

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They all painted vivid pictures of growing up

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and dealing with life struggles and what they

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observed in a broken world around them. And,

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you know, a lot of them also spoke of how to

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uplift both themselves and their community. I

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became, at some point, a huge fan of Most Def,

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Yacine Bay. But DMX and Eminem were different.

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They spoke heavily on the darkness that resided

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within themselves. I mean, there would be days

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when I would just listen to DMX's prayers and

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his songs conversing with the devil. He has a

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string of these songs. It was a theme across

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his albums, right? Where he would have these

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conversations with a personified devil that's

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tempting him into doing all kinds of things,

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right? Or then his prayers, right? His prayers

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would break me down, like... I'm not joking when

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I say DMX was like my spiritual leader in some

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ways, right? His prayers moved me, broke me down,

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brought me down to tears. What was interesting

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about his discussions of that internal struggle

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was that the darkness wasn't on the outside.

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His circumstances had him facing these demons,

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but these demons were dialogues that he was having

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internally. right? The darkness found a home

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inside himself, right? And that's what I felt

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when I listened to DMX. I felt the same way of,

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you know, like I was thrown into a world that

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I didn't have any control over, like what was

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going on around me, but what became clear at

00:24:13.990 --> 00:24:17.230
some point was that the stuff happening out there

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found a home inside me and it became a part of

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who I was. It became part of the way that I viewed

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people. It became a part of the way that I viewed

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the world. It became part of the way I viewed

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society, organizations, governments, police.

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It shaped a lot of my perception, true or not.

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It shaped a lot of my perception of the world

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because it wasn't just stuff happening out there

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and my internal world was somehow immune or isolated

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from it. No, that became a part of how I started

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looking out into the world. Eminem did the same

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thing for me as well, right? I remember when

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Eminem first came out, so many people were all

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up in arms about his violent and misogynistic

00:25:00.029 --> 00:25:02.269
lyrics, right? Look, I'm not going to try to

00:25:02.269 --> 00:25:04.589
justify anything that he has said in any of these

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albums. I definitely don't endorse anyone doing

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a lot of things that he speaks of in his music.

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I mean, specifically... I mean, there's a lot

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of, I'll be honest with you, I love Eminem, but

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there's a lot of bad albums that Eminem has put

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out. But the ones I really, I remember hit me

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hard when I was young was the Slim Shady and

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Marshall Mathers LP. If you ever listen to the

00:25:22.569 --> 00:25:25.890
song Kim, I think that song must have been banned

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from some of these countries. Like that is a

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disturbing ass song. I'm not even going to try

00:25:32.190 --> 00:25:34.109
to recap what happens in it. So I'm not trying

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to say that anyone should go out and do these

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things. But I want to point something out. What

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resonated for me was just how He would describe

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his living conditions, what he grew up in, what

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he observed from his mom and drug use, the violence,

00:25:50.019 --> 00:25:52.799
the poverty, living in a trailer park, right?

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And you could see in his music just how much

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it shaped him. It shaped the rage that he felt.

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It shaped the way that he... would feel towards

00:26:07.579 --> 00:26:09.759
people in his lives, like the way he felt towards

00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:15.259
his mom and the mother of his child. Even if

00:26:15.259 --> 00:26:18.039
you wanted to keep all this stuff away from you,

00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:20.900
because you live in it, you just can't escape

00:26:20.900 --> 00:26:23.599
it. It becomes normal, it becomes expected, and

00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:25.559
eventually it just becomes part of your internal

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world. It just colors the way you view everything

00:26:29.500 --> 00:26:34.950
about the world. You can't not be impacted by

00:26:34.950 --> 00:26:37.890
seeing all of this happen on a day to day basis.

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And you can't deny its impact, especially when

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it's happening to you at some of your most formative

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years in your childhood. And that is the one

00:26:53.230 --> 00:26:57.109
thing that still rings true for me. I still can't

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shake any of the things that I've seen. I can

00:27:00.289 --> 00:27:03.750
be in a completely safe neighborhood. I could

00:27:03.750 --> 00:27:08.390
read up on the crime statistics to find out that

00:27:08.390 --> 00:27:11.269
there isn't even one instance of a home invasion,

00:27:11.549 --> 00:27:14.789
and I'd still be paranoid. I mean, I currently

00:27:14.789 --> 00:27:17.029
live in a neighborhood where there's, like, they

00:27:17.029 --> 00:27:20.049
set up cameras everywhere, and, you know, I know

00:27:20.049 --> 00:27:22.230
some of the people around me, and these are all

00:27:22.230 --> 00:27:24.289
family people. Some of them are like grandparents.

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Some of them are, you know, retired, and they're

00:27:26.849 --> 00:27:31.119
just living their life. But even so, I could

00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.480
know all that in my head, right? Rationally,

00:27:33.900 --> 00:27:36.279
I tell myself that. But when I leave the house,

00:27:37.059 --> 00:27:42.079
I just always have this strange, anxious feeling,

00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.599
you know, that my neighbors, not strangers, that

00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.799
my neighbors are going to rob me. That even the

00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:50.640
little elementary school kids that live in this

00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.619
neighborhood, that they're going to rob me. Or

00:27:53.619 --> 00:27:56.859
that they would not just steal my shit. Even

00:27:56.859 --> 00:28:01.059
worse, they might kill me. It's not based on

00:28:01.059 --> 00:28:03.240
anything. I mean, like, look, if you were to

00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:05.839
lay down the facts of the case and I were to

00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:09.119
sit down and put my rational brain on, and I

00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.880
could just go down and say, oh, yeah, let's give

00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:13.440
percentages of what's likely to happen and what's

00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:16.940
not, there's no reason to any of this, but I

00:28:16.940 --> 00:28:19.539
feel it. I feel it. I try to deny it, but it's

00:28:19.539 --> 00:28:23.660
there. Here's another way. When I hear pops going

00:28:23.660 --> 00:28:27.779
off on the 4th of July, right, from those fireworks,

00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.880
I wonder if some of them are actually gunshots.

00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.259
It is a real thought that crosses my mind. I

00:28:37.259 --> 00:28:39.259
mean, these are not all consuming thoughts to

00:28:39.259 --> 00:28:42.339
the point where I'm fearful and isolating myself

00:28:42.339 --> 00:28:43.960
from everyone else, but the thought does cross

00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:47.579
my mind. They're always there, lurking somewhere

00:28:47.579 --> 00:28:50.519
in the back of my mind. I don't know if it'll

00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.180
ever go away. And what I'm trying to point out

00:28:54.180 --> 00:28:57.349
is this, like, look. Once you've had these experiences

00:28:57.349 --> 00:29:00.289
in those formative years and they were big enough

00:29:00.289 --> 00:29:02.650
and impactful to shape the way that you view

00:29:02.650 --> 00:29:07.750
the world, like reason can't combat it. I don't

00:29:07.750 --> 00:29:11.250
know what it's going to take. Because even to

00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:14.309
this day, I can't shake these feelings that I've

00:29:14.309 --> 00:29:17.849
got. Because it's not about what's out there

00:29:17.849 --> 00:29:20.630
anymore. I could change everything about the

00:29:20.630 --> 00:29:24.390
world around me. I could change everything about

00:29:24.619 --> 00:29:28.460
the neighborhood and my living situation and

00:29:28.460 --> 00:29:30.819
all of it. I could install whatever security

00:29:30.819 --> 00:29:35.700
system I want to. I could try to limit the kind

00:29:35.700 --> 00:29:38.240
of people that I engage with. I could do all

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of that, and yet all these same thoughts will

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be running in the back of my head. Because at

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some point, it just stops being about what's

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actually real. It stops being about what's out

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there. What's clear to me is that it stops being

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about what's out there and becomes more about

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what's in me. And what's in me is this sense

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that I can never let my guard down. I can never

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let my guard down. Because the moment I do, that's

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when you get shot.
