WEBVTT 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:05.280 Wait, is that what I think it is? No! So, you 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:08.099 know, as somebody who works at a community college, 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:11.259 I am very familiar because we use this term a 00:00:11.259 --> 00:00:14.800 lot with the term undocumented immigrants, undocumented 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:19.719 peoples. And, you know, I think there's... And 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:22.879 within the sphere of people who work in this 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:24.739 area, there's nothing particularly controversial 00:00:24.739 --> 00:00:26.760 about it. But I think in the general public, 00:00:26.859 --> 00:00:29.280 the kind of feel I get from the way that people 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.600 respond to me when I use the word undocumented 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:34.920 is that they seem to see it as some sort of woke 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:39.159 ideology shit, some PC police shit, okay? So 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:43.299 I wanted to kind of clear the air, okay? Look, 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:46.880 this is not about being woke. This is not about 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:50.479 being empathic towards a group. For some, it 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:53.020 might be, but for me, it's not. For me, it's 00:00:53.020 --> 00:00:57.079 very straightforward. Instead of calling immigrants 00:00:57.079 --> 00:01:00.340 who do not have the proper paperwork, like, for 00:01:00.340 --> 00:01:02.119 instance, a green card, instead of calling them 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:05.379 illegal, I think that undocumented is just a 00:01:05.379 --> 00:01:08.379 more accurate term for the people described. 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:14.280 It's just a more accurate term. If anything illegal, 00:01:14.859 --> 00:01:19.560 quote unquote, right, immigrant is a more inaccurate 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:22.640 term, right? The word illegal to describe this 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:26.239 group of people is more inaccurate because illegal 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:30.079 carries certain connotations that I think are 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:33.340 not warranted, that is not grounded in truth, 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:35.879 okay? So let's back up for a second and let's 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:38.359 think about this, okay? What do you associate 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:42.079 with illegal, okay? well is it just by definition 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:44.920 is just breaking a law breaking the law here 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:46.939 in the united states one of the many laws that 00:01:46.939 --> 00:01:50.239 we have okay but what laws exactly okay so let 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:52.879 me ask you this right when you speed one mile 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:55.200 per hour over the speed limit you technically 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:59.359 broke one of the laws of the road okay all right 00:01:59.739 --> 00:02:02.480 Did you do something illegal? You're like, yeah, 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:04.420 yeah, maybe I did. Okay, but let me ask you this. 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:05.900 Is that really what you think of when you think 00:02:05.900 --> 00:02:07.620 of somebody who did something illegal? If I told 00:02:07.620 --> 00:02:09.300 you like, hey, I'm about to do something illegal, 00:02:09.539 --> 00:02:11.400 are you thinking that I might drive a little 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:13.780 bit over the speed limit? Probably not, okay? 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.639 If you file your taxes late or renew your car 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:18.580 registration late, right, you technically broke 00:02:18.580 --> 00:02:21.819 some rules, okay? And you break it for a long 00:02:21.819 --> 00:02:23.400 enough time, maybe it becomes a little bit more 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:26.000 serious, but did you do something illegal? Is 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:27.360 that what you think of when you think of illegal? 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:33.229 Illegal activities? Are you thinking of something 00:02:33.229 --> 00:02:37.069 else? Look, if I forgot to pay my traffic ticket, 00:02:37.229 --> 00:02:41.069 did I do something illegal? What constitutes 00:02:41.069 --> 00:02:42.770 illegal here? What is it that you're thinking 00:02:42.770 --> 00:02:45.310 of? Or are you thinking of me by robbing or killing 00:02:45.310 --> 00:02:48.789 somebody? OK, my guess, this is just my guess, 00:02:48.810 --> 00:02:52.030 is that when we use the word illegal, most often 00:02:52.030 --> 00:02:54.250 we associate it with something a little bit more 00:02:54.250 --> 00:02:56.509 serious, something that involves possible harm 00:02:56.509 --> 00:02:59.610 to other people or something of at least a grander 00:02:59.610 --> 00:03:02.669 scale. Right. We're not thinking of things like, 00:03:02.689 --> 00:03:06.060 you know. I don't know, jaywalking. And this 00:03:06.060 --> 00:03:07.620 is part of the reason that I have to kind of 00:03:07.620 --> 00:03:10.900 like say, like, look, I broke a law. I technically 00:03:10.900 --> 00:03:13.080 did something illegal. We say things like this 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:16.039 because there are things that we associate with 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:18.699 the word illegal that implies that it's something 00:03:18.699 --> 00:03:20.240 a little bit more serious so that when you do 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:22.180 something that doesn't seem all that serious, 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:25.639 even if it breaks a law, right? We're like, technically 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:29.680 it's illegal, but you know, it's not a big deal. 00:03:29.900 --> 00:03:32.180 That's what we're thinking, right? And we had 00:03:32.180 --> 00:03:34.039 to make that qualification because again, the 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:36.060 connotation is illegal implies something really, 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.699 really bad. Okay. Now let's take a look at what 00:03:38.699 --> 00:03:41.469 the, what. is under this umbrella of people who 00:03:41.469 --> 00:03:44.490 are undocumented, quote unquote, okay? So here's 00:03:44.490 --> 00:03:46.590 some cases I want to throw out at you. And then 00:03:46.590 --> 00:03:48.389 I want you to kind of like ask yourself, right? 00:03:48.469 --> 00:03:50.330 What do all of these cases kind of have in common, 00:03:50.370 --> 00:03:52.909 okay? Case one, imagine your parents brought 00:03:52.909 --> 00:03:54.370 you to the United States. This is a pretty common 00:03:54.370 --> 00:03:57.009 case, right? When you were a child and you don't 00:03:57.009 --> 00:03:58.550 have the proper identification. You don't have 00:03:58.550 --> 00:03:59.889 a green card. You don't have a social security 00:03:59.889 --> 00:04:01.750 card, right? Your parents never said anything 00:04:01.750 --> 00:04:03.590 to you. You didn't know. You just lived your 00:04:03.590 --> 00:04:05.250 life because you're a kid. You go to school, 00:04:05.409 --> 00:04:07.349 right? And you're like, oh yeah, la la la la, 00:04:07.509 --> 00:04:09.129 right? I'm going to school. I'm getting all... 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:10.719 the things that i need to do and then you get 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:12.719 to college and you're like oh shit i didn't know 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:14.099 that i didn't have a green card or social security 00:04:14.099 --> 00:04:15.719 card right i didn't know that i wasn't a u .s 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:19.540 citizen okay case two You were in the U .S. for 00:04:19.540 --> 00:04:22.259 travel. You overstayed your visa. A lot of these 00:04:22.259 --> 00:04:25.740 countries will say, hey, you could have up to, 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.620 let's say, three months visiting the United States, 00:04:28.699 --> 00:04:30.699 but after that you have to come back. You can't 00:04:30.699 --> 00:04:33.680 overstay your welcome. And you've been staying 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:36.519 in the U .S. for a year since. So your visa ended, 00:04:36.660 --> 00:04:39.279 and then you stayed a year after because you're 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:41.759 just like, well, I'm just going to stick around. 00:04:41.860 --> 00:04:44.040 I like it here. Maybe I found some work, and 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.160 I found some people that I really connected with. 00:04:46.420 --> 00:04:48.230 I wanted to stay a little bit longer. state for 00:04:48.230 --> 00:04:51.189 an extra year, okay? Now, you technically don't 00:04:51.189 --> 00:04:52.649 have the proper paperwork to stay in the United 00:04:52.649 --> 00:04:55.889 States, right? You violated your visa, okay? 00:04:56.170 --> 00:04:58.069 All right, case number three. You were kidnapped 00:04:58.069 --> 00:05:00.110 as a baby from outside the United States, then 00:05:00.110 --> 00:05:02.029 smuggled into the U .S. against your will to 00:05:02.029 --> 00:05:04.649 work without pay, right? This is human trafficking, 00:05:04.810 --> 00:05:08.290 okay? And you have no identification because 00:05:08.290 --> 00:05:10.449 the kidnapper stole all of your identification. 00:05:10.589 --> 00:05:12.230 So then, you know, nobody is able to identify 00:05:12.230 --> 00:05:17.300 you, okay? Case four. You're a student in the 00:05:17.300 --> 00:05:19.300 United States. You didn't know that your student 00:05:19.300 --> 00:05:22.000 visa required you to switch to a work visa once 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:24.360 you graduated, right? There's all these rules 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:26.980 about, you know, what kind of visa allows you 00:05:26.980 --> 00:05:28.680 to stay for what period of time and for what 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:31.000 reason, right? So if you wanted to stay longer, 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.040 you have to switch over to a work visa of some 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.480 kind unless you continued your schooling. And 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:37.560 even then, you have to file some paperwork. But 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:39.439 you just... didn't bother to go ahead and do 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.319 it. You didn't think you had to because you were 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:45.199 hired for a job, but you didn't switch over the 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.839 visa paperwork. And you just continue because 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:50.180 you just, you know, sometimes life gets ahead 00:05:50.180 --> 00:05:51.620 of you. And then you're just like, oh, I just 00:05:51.620 --> 00:05:53.360 fell through the cracks and I didn't realize 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:55.779 that I had to do X, Y, and Z. Okay. So you just 00:05:55.779 --> 00:05:57.759 kept on working for years without knowing. And 00:05:57.759 --> 00:05:59.000 you've been in the United States ever since. 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:04.560 Okay. Question. All of these cases have some 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:08.750 violation of immigration rules. to varying degrees 00:06:08.750 --> 00:06:11.310 and in different ways. Okay? That much I think 00:06:11.310 --> 00:06:14.529 is clear. Okay? All of these involve a violation 00:06:14.529 --> 00:06:20.230 of rules, of laws. Okay. If you say that they 00:06:20.230 --> 00:06:23.509 are all illegal, that's a little bit misleading. 00:06:24.170 --> 00:06:26.529 Again, why is that? It's because the word illegal 00:06:26.529 --> 00:06:30.930 has a lot of connotations about the kind of activities 00:06:30.930 --> 00:06:34.209 that we associate with illegality, right? It's 00:06:34.209 --> 00:06:36.329 anything like drug dealing, murder for hire, 00:06:36.790 --> 00:06:39.610 you know, like hit and run, something like really 00:06:39.610 --> 00:06:42.689 bad, okay? But notice that these are varying 00:06:42.689 --> 00:06:46.389 degrees of severity, okay? These are, in some 00:06:46.389 --> 00:06:48.509 ways, like, look, one thing that's clear is that 00:06:48.509 --> 00:06:51.029 they are violations of the law in some form or 00:06:51.029 --> 00:06:55.720 fashion, for sure. but to call them illegal, 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:59.060 all of them illegal, lumps them all into the 00:06:59.060 --> 00:07:02.959 same group of things, okay? Lumps them all into 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:05.560 the same group. I could put in a case five here, 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:07.319 right, which is somebody who illegally sneaks 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:08.660 in the United States so that they could commit 00:07:08.660 --> 00:07:11.160 some murders, okay? That's a violation of immigration 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.180 law. Case number five, let's include that, right? 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:15.879 Okay, when you think of illegal, you're not thinking 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.040 that, like, so in other words, all five of these 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:20.949 cases, let's say, To lump them all together, 00:07:21.269 --> 00:07:23.990 you need to see the common thread. And the common 00:07:23.990 --> 00:07:26.910 thread is not, the word illegal doesn't actually 00:07:26.910 --> 00:07:29.129 capture the common thread. What captures the 00:07:29.129 --> 00:07:32.370 common thread is that there was some violation 00:07:32.370 --> 00:07:36.829 of immigration law that has to do with not having 00:07:36.829 --> 00:07:40.720 proper documentation, right? Not having an approved 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.800 visa, not having a passport, not having a green 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.740 card, right? Some sort of documentation that 00:07:46.740 --> 00:07:48.819 allows you to stay in the United States because 00:07:48.819 --> 00:07:50.540 this is how immigration is operating, right? 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:54.360 Okay. Hence, it seems like the more accurate 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:57.600 term to describe this lump of people is undocumented. 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:02.100 Am I saying that some of them, some of the members 00:08:02.100 --> 00:08:05.319 within this larger group, we couldn't call illegal 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:07.879 because they are engaging in a lot of illegal 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:10.560 activities? I'm not saying that you can't, but 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:12.620 what I am saying is that the illegal probably 00:08:12.620 --> 00:08:14.939 is not referring to the immigration violation. 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:18.120 It's probably referring to some other shady criminal 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.439 activity they might be up to, if they're involved 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:22.980 in that at all, okay? But as I said, most of 00:08:22.980 --> 00:08:26.199 these cases don't involve those kinds of activities. 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:28.959 They just involve, well, in a lot of cases, honestly, 00:08:29.100 --> 00:08:31.980 just overstating visas, right? A lot of people 00:08:31.980 --> 00:08:33.740 who make it into the United States and are here... 00:08:33.929 --> 00:08:36.509 quote -unquote illegally, violating immigration 00:08:36.509 --> 00:08:40.169 law, and they just stay here when they are not 00:08:40.169 --> 00:08:43.190 allowed to be in the United States. So many of 00:08:43.190 --> 00:08:45.870 them just fly on over. They just visit the United 00:08:45.870 --> 00:08:48.450 States from places like Europe and Asia, and 00:08:48.450 --> 00:08:52.049 they just stay. Because once your visa is up, 00:08:52.110 --> 00:08:54.570 it's not as if somebody tracks you down and deports 00:08:54.570 --> 00:08:58.350 you back home to the previous country that you 00:08:58.350 --> 00:09:02.230 came from. No! No, they don't. So they just stick 00:09:02.230 --> 00:09:04.210 around. That's what happens in a lot of these 00:09:04.210 --> 00:09:07.750 cases, okay? Look, I personally don't care what 00:09:07.750 --> 00:09:09.929 term people use. I just care that it accurately 00:09:09.929 --> 00:09:12.850 reflects reality. Because I think when it doesn't, 00:09:12.850 --> 00:09:15.009 it starts sounding like some dog whistle type 00:09:15.009 --> 00:09:16.889 shit where people are trying to imply something 00:09:16.889 --> 00:09:21.889 that, you know, is not accurate, okay? And this 00:09:21.889 --> 00:09:24.779 is the problem. If illegal was a more accurate 00:09:24.779 --> 00:09:27.360 way of describing what's happening here, then 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.080 that would be a fine term for me to use. I would 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:32.559 have no problem with it. But the problem is that 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:36.899 it does carry these negative connotations about 00:09:36.899 --> 00:09:38.639 the severity of what it is that you're doing. 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:41.840 And because it does, it's not an accurate description 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:43.559 of what's actually happening in immigration. 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:48.820 It's just not. It doesn't actually capture what's 00:09:48.820 --> 00:09:51.570 happening here. And so look. Regardless of how 00:09:51.570 --> 00:09:53.850 you might use a word, maybe when you use the 00:09:53.850 --> 00:09:55.409 word illegal, you're like, I'm not thinking of 00:09:55.409 --> 00:09:57.269 all these negative connotations. Fine. For you, 00:09:57.409 --> 00:09:59.370 congratulations to you. That's not the way the 00:09:59.370 --> 00:10:01.870 word operates for you. But language is shared. 00:10:02.049 --> 00:10:04.789 We use language to communicate things from one 00:10:04.789 --> 00:10:07.610 person to another. And so when you don't use 00:10:07.610 --> 00:10:09.570 language in the way that everyone else is using 00:10:09.570 --> 00:10:11.470 it, you're going to mislead them. You're either 00:10:11.470 --> 00:10:13.210 doing it purposely or you're being ignorant. 00:10:13.610 --> 00:10:16.409 Either way, you're having the impact of creating 00:10:16.409 --> 00:10:19.049 a false reality for the people who are listening 00:10:19.049 --> 00:10:26.100 to what it is you're saying. Look, if illegal 00:10:26.100 --> 00:10:29.480 just simply meant that you violated some law 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.039 and that was the only thing that people thought 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:36.120 of or experienced when they heard the word, then 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.080 again, this would not be a problem. But because 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.159 there is, this is why a lot of people are calling 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:43.700 out the use of the word illegal immigrants as 00:10:43.700 --> 00:10:47.399 a kind of dog whistle. as a way to kind of signal 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:51.120 xenophobic and racist -ass ideas. Because let 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:54.399 me tell you something, right? When I hear people 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:56.919 using the term illegal immigrants and I ask them, 00:10:56.940 --> 00:10:59.919 who are you referring to? It's always the same 00:10:59.919 --> 00:11:02.259 group of people, the people coming in from South 00:11:02.259 --> 00:11:06.440 and Central America. Darker complexion, different 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:10.419 language. And they're sneaking in over the border. 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:12.379 This is the image that has been created in their 00:11:12.379 --> 00:11:15.840 head. And it doesn't surprise me because, again, 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.720 the word illegal often has certain connotations 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:23.440 that do not actually capture reality. But the 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:25.559 reality is that a lot of people enter the United 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:27.860 States and stay in the United States without 00:11:27.860 --> 00:11:30.419 proper paperwork. And they do so coming from 00:11:30.419 --> 00:11:33.759 all over the world. And they are not fitting 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.519 into this sort of, you know, whatever image that 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.740 people have of quote unquote illegal immigrants. 00:11:40.059 --> 00:11:43.460 Okay. In fact, a lot of them are flying in over 00:11:43.460 --> 00:11:46.879 from Europe, Canada, Australia, all parts of 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.259 Asia. They have very light complexion and they're 00:11:50.259 --> 00:11:52.000 here to overstay their welcome. If you're actually 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.299 going to go after immigration violation, if you're 00:11:54.299 --> 00:11:55.620 just going to start rounding up all of these 00:11:55.620 --> 00:11:58.789 people. I'm betting you that most of the people 00:11:58.789 --> 00:12:00.509 across the world, like if you saw in the news 00:12:00.509 --> 00:12:02.710 and they accurately reported and showed pictures 00:12:02.710 --> 00:12:04.409 of all the people that are being deported for 00:12:04.409 --> 00:12:07.289 violating these visa rules or things that, you 00:12:07.289 --> 00:12:09.129 know, they're not properly documented so that 00:12:09.129 --> 00:12:10.730 they're allowed to stay in the United States, 00:12:10.850 --> 00:12:13.970 people will be pleasantly surprised that so many 00:12:13.970 --> 00:12:17.570 of them look nothing like the image they probably 00:12:17.570 --> 00:12:20.750 had in their head. And that's probably because 00:12:20.750 --> 00:12:25.779 these words did a good job. in creating a false 00:12:25.779 --> 00:12:28.620 reality. And that's why you buy into bullshit, 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:33.279 okay? So look, I don't care what word you use 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.799 as long as it's accurate. For me, that's what 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.700 matters, okay? Even for me, I don't know. Maybe 00:12:38.700 --> 00:12:40.720 there's a better word than undocumented, okay? 00:12:40.899 --> 00:12:44.320 What I do know is that illegal immigrant is definitely 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:48.259 not a very accurate term, okay? And if you want 00:12:48.259 --> 00:12:50.120 to claim that you want to crack down on immigration 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:55.639 violations, then fine. Be about it. I don't care 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:58.620 as long as you're accurate. As long as you're 00:12:58.620 --> 00:13:00.559 accurate. If you're going to be consistent, then 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:02.919 we could have a reasonable discussion. If you're 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:04.500 not going to base it on reason, then we have 00:13:04.500 --> 00:13:06.240 a problem. If you're not going to base any of 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:07.940 your decisions and your thoughts on reality, 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:12.679 then I don't know how to have a reasonable conversation 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:15.240 with you, okay? So what I need is for you to 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:16.679 at least make sure that you're being accurate. 00:13:17.049 --> 00:13:19.330 And consistent. So if you're saying that you 00:13:19.330 --> 00:13:21.389 care about immigration violation and you're saying 00:13:21.389 --> 00:13:24.929 that you want to have a pathway to citizenship, 00:13:25.009 --> 00:13:28.230 but one that's done in a legal way, one that's 00:13:28.230 --> 00:13:31.909 done without any violation of any of these rules 00:13:31.909 --> 00:13:35.889 or laws, that's perfectly fine. Then you wouldn't 00:13:35.889 --> 00:13:38.450 be asking for a border wall on the southern border 00:13:38.450 --> 00:13:41.440 of the United States. You would be asking for 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:45.639 ICE to go around and check actual visas and which 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:48.639 people have overstayed their visa and then start 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:50.600 shipping them out. I'm guessing we're going to 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:52.940 start getting a lot of ICE, you know, members, 00:13:53.059 --> 00:13:55.940 like ICE officers going into all parts of the 00:13:55.940 --> 00:13:58.159 United States and just carrying out a bunch of 00:13:58.159 --> 00:13:59.580 people that don't look like the thing that you 00:13:59.580 --> 00:14:01.500 thought were going to be shipped out. I guarantee 00:14:01.500 --> 00:14:04.679 you a lot of them did not come through the southern 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:06.820 border at all. Probably going to be a lot of 00:14:06.820 --> 00:14:11.309 Canadians, surprisingly, so, right? It's just, 00:14:11.370 --> 00:14:15.909 again, that's the reality. But guess what? You 00:14:15.909 --> 00:14:18.669 wouldn't know that if you were too focused on 00:14:18.669 --> 00:14:23.269 insisting that all of them are illegal. So at 00:14:23.269 --> 00:14:26.110 least get the terminology right, okay? Not for 00:14:26.110 --> 00:14:29.929 the sake of woke PC shit, but rather because 00:14:29.929 --> 00:14:31.929 it's just more accurate.