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From the Dungeons of Morningstar, my name is

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Clint. And I'm Stretch, and this is Prevailing

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Strange. This instalment of Prevailing Strange

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is what we like to call rant and sundry, where

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we round out the week by going over some of the

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things that we've previously talked about and

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follow wherever the tangents may take us. Just

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give me one second, please, mate. If you like

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what we're doing here, please like, comment,

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subscribe, follow along, share us around to your

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family and friends. You are a wanker. What's

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wrong, buddy? Did I scare you? Well, yeah. We

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weren't expecting it a second time. It's not

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news, but I'm going to talk about it and you're

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going to listen. Okay. We're going to talk about

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it. Nathan Fillion has won the internet. What

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is he doing? Yeah. What is going on? Is he going

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to set us up for? I don't think it's going to

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be a reunion thing because they've already done

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one of those. Yep. Could it just be a one -off

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movie? I don't know. Could it be a TV show? I

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don't know. Could it just be everybody going

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to be in the same episode of The Rookie? We don't

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know. Or are they all going to be on Once Were

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Spacemen? I don't know. So I don't know how well

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Once Was Spaceman is doing, but it may have been

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something that has drummed up enough success

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to kind of elicit a reboot or a second season

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to wrap the story up or who knows. Dude, I honestly

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don't care. We need to bring Wash back into the

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whole thing. For years, I don't know what we're

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talking about. We're talking about Firefly and

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the cast of Firefly are doing this thing at the

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moment on the interwebs, on the socials, where

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Nathan Fillion, who plays… Captain Malcolm Reynolds.

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Yes, is visiting each and every one of the cast

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and telling them it's time. Yeah, and they're

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responding in such ways like Jewel, who plays

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Kaylee. Jesus Christ. In character. Yeah, I'm

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starting to get excited. Yeah, responded shiny

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and I'm like, oh, get out of it. Yeah. And then

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Simon Tam responded like speaking Chinese and

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stuff. And River did the weird tattoo thing.

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Yeah, dude. So I'm, come on. Come on. I was talking

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to Nasty about it today and she's never seen

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it. Nasty's one of our tattoo artists upstairs.

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And she literally has never seen or heard of

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Firefly. So I was explaining that 25 years ago

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we had this one season show that was cancelled

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halfway through. And so the last four episodes

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were written knowing that there was never going

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to be a second season. And it's one of them amazingly

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beautiful shows that we're still, everybody's

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still talking about 25 years later. To the point

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where. Massive cult following. It's this huge

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podcast that they've just started. And this,

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you read the comments, man, and it's all just

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don't give me hope. If this is a, I swear on

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my pretty pink floral bonnet, I'll end you if

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this is fake. The fact that this show has still

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got this much of a strong following 25 years

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later than it had. one season well i remember

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when it was cancelled and there was like like

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why it was well received enough like yeah um

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i mean buffy didn't break any kind of um numbers

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back in the day but they gave it nine seasons

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or whatever it ended up having um and the fact

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that a whole original show that was coming out

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and the production was good and the story was

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good and like There was absolutely nothing wrong

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with it. I don't know what actually pulled that

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linchpin and kind of gave him the reason to cancel

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it. During its 12 -episode run, Buffy started

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with 4 .59 million viewers and dipped down to

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2 .47 by the finale. Now... Did Firefly come

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out before or after Buffy? After. After? Yeah.

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Holy Christ. Apparently it was cancelled due

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to low ratings, high production costs, and poor

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network management at Fox. I believe that. So

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after the 11th episode, there was 14 planned

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for the season. They didn't air the last three.

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Yep. So it was cancelled after 11 episodes. And

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their average, their viewership average was 4

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.7 million viewers. Buffy's would have been like

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3 .2. Yeah. So I'll never understand that. No.

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I'll never understand. And the fact that the

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viewers and the fans rallied and they made that

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movie, you shouldn't have killed Wash. You shouldn't

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have killed Walsh. Yeah. But, man, 25 years later,

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people are still clamouring for the brown coats.

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I'd love to see it. Yeah. I don't even need to

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have Joss Whedon attached to it. Anybody that

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watches that one season of Firefly we've got

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understands. You will watch it and you'll understand

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the exact whole reason why people love it so

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much because it's brilliant. I do have hope.

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I hope I am not disappointed. I don't. If it's

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just a thing, you know, rummaging up viewers

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for his podcast or just that they're all going

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to be in the rookie, I'm so going to be upset.

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Surely it wouldn't be such a cheap thing. I don't

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think he'd do that to the fans, man. Nathan Fillion

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loves his fans. Yep. So I honestly don't think

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he would do this. Alan Tudyk as well. Yeah. He's

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so great with his fans as well, so I don't think

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they'd do this. But there's still a couple of

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cast members that they haven't gone to. Yet.

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Yeah, they haven't gone to Jane. I mean, the

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announcement is, when is it, the 13th? So they've

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given a date. The one with River Tam, they said

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there will be an announcement. Nice. Yeah, dude,

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I'm pumped. I cannot wait for it. Have you watched,

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you've watched Badlands, haven't you? No. You

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haven't watched it neither? Mm -mm. I haven't

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watched it yet. I thought you said you watched

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it and it was bad. No, why? Maybe somebody else

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watched it. Oh, Badlands. No, I'm thinking of,

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what was that one with Cate Blanchett? Oh, Borderlands.

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Borderlands. That was terrible. Yeah, Badlands.

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I haven't gone around watching that yet and I

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don't know why. You're always at work. True.

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It's a bit hard to watch things when you're always

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at work and when you're not at work, you're watching

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our two mugs on your laptop. Yeah. I think I've

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got sunburned through my clothes. My back's so

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itchy. You know it's possible, right? Clothes

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are only like. You know what we should have named

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the podcast? First World Problems with Clint

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and Jeremy. First World Problems. I'm out there

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sweating my ass off in the sun. My back's itchy.

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Today I was doing a tattoo on an inner bicep.

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In the air conditioning. Yeah, in the air conditioning.

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It was so cool out there. It was like 21 degrees.

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And me mate Dan Gould was over and his dad come

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for a ride in and he's one of the OG tattooers

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in the Hunter Valley. So he's come down and I've

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gone out. I'm like, yeah, a bit starstruck. He's,

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you know, one of the OGs, dude. So big deal.

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And I've walked out and I opened the door and

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I'm like, what is this? I said, dude, I'm going

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back inside. This is terrible. It was about 31

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degrees. It was, yeah. And that was enough. And

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then it was like me cousin's like, oh, move up

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to Queensland, man, move up to Queensland. I'm

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like, no. Yeah. No, I moved to Tassie because

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it's cold and I'm like. Bring on winter. Man,

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I can't wait for winter. Hell, yeah. Let's just

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move down to Melbourne or somewhere. We'll move

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down to Tassie. That way it's cold all year round.

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Would be nice. And then you and me could walk

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around dressed up as Sasquatch and prank people.

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And get shot at. Yeah. That'd be my luck. I'd

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be my luck so hard. Which is then or earlier.

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It just started to swell and every once in a

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while I'll bite it again. So not fair. Rightio,

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here we go. If superheroes actually existed in

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the real world, would governments actually allow

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them to operate or would they immediately try

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to control them? There'd be control for sure.

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The world's not about vigilantes. Not at all.

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Vigilantes for sure. If Batman refuses to kill

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a villain, Is he actually responsible for the

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death caused when they inevitably escape? That's

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a big thing, isn't it, about Batman? He constantly

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putting him in Arkham and they're escaping and

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they're killing a whole lot of people, which

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is funny because that's the kind of thing they

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kill these parents in the first place. Criminals

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out on the streets doing bad things. Yeah. You

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kind of have to look at Batman and sometimes

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think that he has some kind of... Mental illness

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that just wants him to be out there and beat

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people up. Yeah, he wants to chase the bad guy.

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Just wants to relive the hunt. Yeah. I think

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so. I think so too. If the Infinity Stones existed,

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which one would actually be the most dangerous

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in the hands of an average Joe? Most dangerous?

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Personally, the Reality Stone. Oh, man, like

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it could just unravel. You could just destroy

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people's lives just by walking up and saying

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stuff. Yeah. Walking up and imagining stuff,

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you destroy someone's life. See, it's funny.

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It depends on whether we're talking in the comics

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or whether we're talking in the MCU because whenever

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he changed stuff, it changed back afterwards.

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Like it wasn't a permanent thing or was that

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him using the reality stone to turn it back?

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You know what I mean? Like whenever he was not

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around that returned back to normal reality,

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you're saying? So there was the first time when

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Gamora, when he tricks Gamora and Star -Lord

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and they're in nowhere and nowhere looks normal

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and then he takes off and then, or no, or is

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it revealed beforehand where nowhere's burning

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and everything's been destroyed? No, no, no,

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it reveals itself when he speaks. Yeah, that's

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right. Then he pops out of nowhere. So it's either

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him controlling it to do that or whether it just

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resets back to default reality. I don't know

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how it works. If it was something like could

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you imagine if the reality stone was something

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where you could change reality and whatever change

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was just implemented and then you just and then

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if you like had to. like actively change it back.

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Yep. Like what you could forget in changing it

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back, what could be missing from the original,

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it would never be the same again. Yeah. Like,

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yeah, that would be, if that was the case, that

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would be the most dangerous. I reckon. Why do

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alien invasions always happen in New York? Iconic

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skyline. I think that's what it is. Yeah. I think

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it's just there's so much. I think they get more

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bang for their buck when it comes to destruction

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in small areas that's so kind of built up and

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dense. Well, saying that, my question's just

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been a bit of a kick in the butt because when

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Mars attacks is one of my favourite invasion

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movies that happens in Vegas. Yeah, well, they're

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not all like that, but a lot of them are kind

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of the bigs. Yeah, but you think like. In Vegas,

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you can destroy the Eiffel Tower. You can destroy

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Egypt. You can destroy, you know, all that stuff.

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That was pretty funny. So I love that. I like

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that for when Muzz attacks. At what point does

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the cinematic universe become too large to follow

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and do you think we're already there? I think

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with the MCU, they probably should never have

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gone to television. Preach, sir. That kind of

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got. Too much and to the point where a lot of

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people said it feels like homework. 100%, dude.

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It's funny because I love world building and

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I love the expansiveness of it, so it's not a

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big thing for me, but for the average person,

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you probably shouldn't go beyond a trilogy. Yeah,

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I see that and I agree. To maintain. a fan base

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to prevent that kind of not tiredness. What's

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the word? Fatigue. Fatigue, yes. I think trilogies

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are – there's something about the power of three.

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Like three is a pretty powerful kind of number

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and, yeah, I think trilogy is probably as far

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as you should really go. The MCU is a completely

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different monster though. Yeah, I agree. Because

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some of these movies aren't just. Indiana Jones

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movies are all Indiana Jones movies. The MCU,

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you've got, let's go, we'll take the Captain

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America franchise, for example. Captain America,

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the first Avenger, was a Captain America movie.

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Captain America Winter Soldier, that was a Bucky

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Barnes movie, dude. That was a Bucky Barnes.

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Captain America Civil War, that was an Avengers

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light movie. That was an Avengers movie. So Captain

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America's really only got one movie. Yeah, basically.

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The rest of them are team -ups. But then it's

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interesting because then you start thinking about

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things like Star Trek. Okay. Seven different

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shows across thousands of episodes. Not much

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of it's good though. I never said it was good.

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Did you say it had to be good? No, I didn't.

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Yeah. See, I absolutely loved, and when I say

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I absolutely loved, I mean it with everything

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that I have, J .J. Abrams. He's reimagining Star

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Trek now. Absolutely killed it. I loved it. I

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loved how polished it was. The lens flare could

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have dimmed down a little bit. But, dude, that

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was just classic JJ. It was great storytelling.

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The soundtrack was bangers and it was gorgeous.

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Yeah. I didn't mind some of the old Star Trek,

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especially when it was on Foxtel and I just put

00:16:20.389 --> 00:16:23.750
it on in the background. Yep. A lot of it was

00:16:23.750 --> 00:16:27.009
garbage though. Yeah, a lot of it was garbage.

00:16:27.250 --> 00:16:29.529
Some of it posed some interesting questions.

00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:33.440
You've got to sort through a lot to get to it.

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It really showed how bad of an actor William

00:16:36.179 --> 00:16:40.679
Shatner is. He's so bad. Yeah. He's so terrible.

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100%. Apparently a terrible person. Terrible

00:16:45.500 --> 00:16:48.940
singer too. That's one song. I forget what that

00:16:48.940 --> 00:16:54.840
one song was. I have not listened to his music.

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Okay. Now you have one song out there for a while

00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:01.059
that was. A cover of an old song. I think it

00:17:01.059 --> 00:17:06.599
was about some woman being a, I think she was

00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:12.099
rich and she wants to be a normal person. I almost

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had the name of the song on the top of my, the

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edge of my, tip of my tongue. You don't need

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to. Yeah, no. Have you seen what I have come

00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:27.839
across on my Facebook? So these new. Jerseys

00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:32.039
have popped up. God damn it, Domino. God damn

00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:36.200
it, Domino. But there's more. There's like, this

00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:42.099
is an outrage. That's cool. New achievement.

00:17:43.380 --> 00:17:47.140
So there's, I want to get a couple. That's Dungeon

00:17:47.140 --> 00:17:49.859
Crawl Carl, if you are familiar with it. Like

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this one. Bongo is appalled. Have you seen footage

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of the fellow recording that? No. He does all

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the voices. No, I didn't. Oh, I'll have to send

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you a bit later. Pretty cool. It's – I'm really

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– I love – I'm getting that tabletop RPG when

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it comes out. I'm going to crawl a car one. Dude,

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it's so much fun, that book. It is, yeah. You

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know, I was a bit, eh, this is shit at the start.

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It was hard for me to get used to it. Now I'm

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so – I've just bit my lip again. I'm so excited

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for the new book to come out. Hell, yeah. But

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I've just been too busy re -listening to the

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last chapter of Project Hail Mary for the last

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three or four days. When's that come out? 14th.

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I get to go on the 14th. Yeah. Lucky son of a

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gun. I'm so excited. The thing is when Rach and

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I went to Sydney for Jack's 18th a couple of

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weekends ago and then on the way down we were

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listening to Project Hail Mary and she started

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falling in love with it and then on the way back

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and then it was almost finished the other day

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when we were on our way back from Newcastle.

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I said, we're about three chapters from the end.

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Do you want to keep listening? Or do you want

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me to turn it off? And she goes, no, no, no,

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no, no, just turn it off, turn it off. I'm like,

00:19:23.009 --> 00:19:25.109
righto, sweet. So she doesn't know the ending.

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But I'm going to fuck. Oh, no, I'm going to fall

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out of the dead set chair, bawling my eyes out,

00:19:33.410 --> 00:19:38.769
rolling around on the floor. Yeah. It's a great

00:19:38.769 --> 00:19:41.109
story. It's such a great story. And it's funny

00:19:41.109 --> 00:19:46.250
because I had watched The Martian, read The Martian,

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listened to The Martian. and enjoyed all three

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installments of it. And it was like a very grander

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type thing. And then Project Hail Mary started

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off. I'm like, oh, yeah, this is very kind of

00:19:56.200 --> 00:20:00.039
similar -esque. And then it goes full sci -fi.

00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:04.279
I'm like, oh, I'd like this even more. Dude,

00:20:04.779 --> 00:20:07.299
you've got to listen to Artemis. Artemis is great.

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Because it's a bit more sci -fi. It's in the

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future and it's on the space station. On the

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space station, right. Like an actual city up

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there where people have jobs and there's shops

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and people have like there's black market trades

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and shit. Nice. It's really good. Pretty funny

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story. So Steph's in a book club, right? Is that

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the one that she's in with my wife? No one. Okay.

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Well, she's in the smutty one with my wife. So

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it's funny because Steph isn't a very smutty

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book reading person. She likes romanticies like.

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more heavy on the romance than the smart, but

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loves fantasy world building and stuff like that.

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Anyway, so she kind of really worries about her

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choice, and there's like 12 of them in this club,

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so it's once a year it comes around that she

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has a choice in what book that they read. And

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the last one she suggested was book one in a

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series of two. which is a book that I put her

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onto that she really liked and they liked it

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or half of them liked it. But the fact that it

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was more than one book, a lot of them kind of

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got bent out of shape. So this year she's trying

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to figure out what to get them to read and I

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suggested two books in particular and she misheard

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one of them or whatever. It was another book

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that I had talked about that I think she should

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read at some point, but it wasn't one of the

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ones I suggested for this book club, mainly because

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I thought it would be geared towards what they

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would like to read. So they like, they seem to

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be reading a whole lot of Gone Girl, kind of

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that kind of mystery, kind of, I don't know what

00:22:01.029 --> 00:22:03.569
you'd call that. Speculative fiction. No, not

00:22:03.569 --> 00:22:05.450
speculative fiction. Anyway, whatever it is.

00:22:05.529 --> 00:22:08.750
Anyway, so there's one called The Sundown Motel.

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It's about a woman that comes to town and she

00:22:11.750 --> 00:22:15.769
works at this motel on a night shift. And there

00:22:15.769 --> 00:22:19.430
was a murder there so long ago. But then it gets

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paranormal and it flashes backwards and forwards

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between the story. It's really good. I enjoyed

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it. And I thought it would be right up their

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alley because it's that kind but has a paranormal

00:22:30.430 --> 00:22:34.680
kind of. kicked to it. She misheard me and thought

00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:37.359
it was another book called Babble. Babble was

00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:41.440
okay, low fantasy kind of academic type thing.

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I didn't really like it. I think Steph would

00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:47.619
like it, but she thought I said that. And the

00:22:47.619 --> 00:22:49.740
other book was another book, my favourite book

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that I've probably ever read, and it's called

00:22:52.420 --> 00:22:56.130
The Library at Mount Char. I've never heard of

00:22:56.130 --> 00:22:58.750
it. You've never heard of it? It's a weird title.

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It doesn't make sense right until the end of

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the book. I don't want to describe anything about

00:23:03.950 --> 00:23:06.529
it because it gives stuff away. But it's one

00:23:06.529 --> 00:23:08.289
of the funnest things I've ever read and it's

00:23:08.289 --> 00:23:11.349
completely weird and left field and it's good.

00:23:12.430 --> 00:23:14.710
And I want Steph to read it and she kind of thought,

00:23:14.789 --> 00:23:17.990
no, that's a bit much. So she suggested another

00:23:17.990 --> 00:23:24.690
book that was written by this one person. I think

00:23:24.690 --> 00:23:27.009
it's called, and it's about vampires and werewolves

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and she looked it up and kind of said romantic

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fantasy kind of enemies become lovers and all

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that kind of shit. So there's a whole lot of

00:23:37.869 --> 00:23:41.509
banging between werewolves and vampires in this

00:23:41.509 --> 00:23:46.430
and the anatomy of a dog and she's like, she

00:23:46.430 --> 00:23:49.859
read it in her night and she's like. mortified

00:23:49.859 --> 00:23:52.339
that she suggested this book to this book group.

00:23:52.900 --> 00:23:55.299
She's like, this is not what I read. What the

00:23:55.299 --> 00:23:59.480
hell does this even mean? I'm like, why didn't

00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:01.500
you suggest Sundown Motel like I said to you?

00:24:01.619 --> 00:24:03.759
She's like, you said Babel. I said, no, I didn't.

00:24:05.339 --> 00:24:08.980
Hot damn it. But, yeah, I'm waiting to hear back

00:24:08.980 --> 00:24:11.900
about how that next meetup goes. So she's been

00:24:11.900 --> 00:24:15.420
amped up for a year. Yeah. There's dog dicks

00:24:15.420 --> 00:24:17.970
in it. Yeah, there's dog dicks in it. Talking

00:24:17.970 --> 00:24:20.490
about getting dog locked and knots and stuff.

00:24:20.769 --> 00:24:28.049
Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. Tough crowd. Yeah, some

00:24:28.049 --> 00:24:31.369
of these smut books are fucking messed up. Look,

00:24:31.710 --> 00:24:34.710
Rachel's read me some excerpts from books that

00:24:34.710 --> 00:24:42.589
the other book clubs done. Jesus. Yeah. What?

00:24:43.529 --> 00:24:45.250
There's some stuff in there that shouldn't be.

00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:49.940
And I'm weird. Yeah, apparently. Because there's

00:24:49.940 --> 00:24:52.319
a guy with the best mate who's a spider and they're

00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.960
saving the planet. Okay. These are not fucking.

00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:03.180
Exactly. God damn. And he's up in there with

00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:07.779
Rocky for like three, four months. Not once has

00:25:07.779 --> 00:25:09.779
he mentioned that he's whacking her. Oh, you

00:25:09.779 --> 00:25:13.059
know why? Rocky watches him sleep. He does, doesn't

00:25:13.059 --> 00:25:14.880
he? I forgot about that. He watches her sleep.

00:25:14.940 --> 00:25:17.910
Yeah, because. That's what they do. Oh, I don't

00:25:17.910 --> 00:25:21.430
want to spoil it for anyone. Oh, Eric. Eric.

00:25:21.730 --> 00:25:24.809
I'll put the brakes on that one for anybody that

00:25:24.809 --> 00:25:29.829
hasn't seen it. You're in for a treat. Sellouts.

00:25:29.970 --> 00:25:33.390
Dude, this movie better sell out. You know what?

00:25:34.369 --> 00:25:38.549
I don't even care because it's one story. It's

00:25:38.549 --> 00:25:41.210
a rounded story. It's got a start and it's got

00:25:41.210 --> 00:25:43.470
an end. And I don't have to wait until next month

00:25:43.470 --> 00:25:45.470
for a new episode. As long as they don't change

00:25:45.470 --> 00:25:47.329
the ending. Oh, if they change the ending, I'm

00:25:47.329 --> 00:25:49.130
going to poke myself in the eye with a hot poker.

00:25:50.349 --> 00:25:54.369
They couldn't do it. Man, they do. They did it

00:25:54.369 --> 00:25:55.990
with The Martian though? They fumble stuff. They

00:25:55.990 --> 00:25:58.509
fumble stuff. They didn't with The Martian? No,

00:25:58.549 --> 00:26:00.650
they just cut it short by a third of the book.

00:26:00.710 --> 00:26:05.789
So much shorter. We missed out on the whole rover

00:26:05.789 --> 00:26:08.589
rolling over and everything in the movie. That

00:26:08.589 --> 00:26:10.630
would have been pretty tedious, I think, on film.

00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.160
Well, you didn't see the drill shorting out either

00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:17.740
when he lent it against the toolbox. It was actually

00:26:17.740 --> 00:26:19.319
a lot cut out of that, wasn't it? It was, yeah.

00:26:19.700 --> 00:26:25.500
But you're right if they do. Yeah, I try not.

00:26:25.740 --> 00:26:29.240
This is why I prefer to read the book afterwards.

00:26:30.099 --> 00:26:33.000
Okay. Yeah, because you can always be more excited

00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.980
when you find out more stuff because when they

00:26:35.980 --> 00:26:38.059
leave stuff out. But that was one of my favourite

00:26:38.059 --> 00:26:40.839
bits. Yeah. Follow the Rings when I read it.

00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:44.960
Who the fuck is Tom Bombadil? Tom Bombadil. It's

00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.259
worse when you listen to the audiobook and you

00:26:47.259 --> 00:26:51.059
got bloody, what's his name? Circus? Andy Circus.

00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:55.779
Andy Circus. I'm Tom Bombadil. No, stop that.

00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.680
Stop. Especially when I never looked it up on

00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:01.519
the internet because I read this back in like

00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:07.740
early 2000s or like when it first came out, 2000.

00:27:09.110 --> 00:27:12.789
I read it after the movie came out, 2000. Oh,

00:27:12.789 --> 00:27:15.089
right. Yeah. Not the book. Not the book. I was

00:27:15.089 --> 00:27:17.029
going to say. Hang on. Pretty sure Toggle was.

00:27:17.630 --> 00:27:20.589
Yeah. And then I get, I'm like, what is this

00:27:20.589 --> 00:27:24.630
whole section of book? I'm like, I had no idea.

00:27:25.069 --> 00:27:27.910
You couldn't tell by the thickness of the thing?

00:27:28.529 --> 00:27:30.730
Well, I just thought he would explain the trees

00:27:30.730 --> 00:27:34.529
a lot more than he did. I mean, he was pretty

00:27:34.529 --> 00:27:37.049
explicit about kind of everything, the scenery

00:27:37.049 --> 00:27:39.309
and that and that in the beginning of the book.

00:27:39.450 --> 00:27:42.210
Did you read The Silmarillion before you read

00:27:42.210 --> 00:27:44.529
Lord of the Rings or was that after after? I

00:27:44.529 --> 00:27:46.670
haven't read The Silmarillion. Haven't you? Read

00:27:46.670 --> 00:27:48.509
The Silmarillion. Then you'll know why there's

00:27:48.509 --> 00:27:52.750
so much dog shit in Lord of the Rings. And Peter

00:27:52.750 --> 00:27:56.670
Jackson went through and like just nitpicked

00:27:56.670 --> 00:27:58.569
all his favourite little bits out of it because

00:27:58.569 --> 00:28:03.640
the book is trash. The movie's no. Better, but

00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:06.759
still. The book's great. No. The movie's pretty.

00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.960
Some parts of the movie are absolutely stunning,

00:28:11.140 --> 00:28:17.079
but there's so many holes in it. Like what? The

00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.400
eagles, Jeremy. I told you about the eagles.

00:28:19.940 --> 00:28:22.960
That don't make sense. What do you mean it doesn't

00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:24.900
make sense? There's a whole other side to the

00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:26.220
mountain. The mountain is a three -dimensional

00:28:26.220 --> 00:28:27.960
shape. He could have gone around the other side

00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:29.980
where the eye would not have seen the eagles.

00:28:30.740 --> 00:28:34.980
Yeah. He could have gone, let's say he is Mount

00:28:34.980 --> 00:28:42.779
Doom. He is the Eye of Sauron, right? If he was

00:28:42.779 --> 00:28:45.599
walking up here to the mountain, right, if the

00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:53.259
eagles just went half a day, no one dies. Yeah,

00:28:53.299 --> 00:28:56.119
but then you wouldn't have a story. Then don't

00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.059
put them in at the end. Just leave them out.

00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:01.279
You just had to leave them out. That's it. But

00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:05.460
it's a miracle. Not a miracle. It is. It isn't.

00:29:05.460 --> 00:29:08.819
It was a task that was completed by a group of

00:29:08.819 --> 00:29:14.420
people. A fellowship, as it were. Do you know

00:29:14.420 --> 00:29:16.339
the whole reason why he wrote Lord of the Rings?

00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.279
Because he was bored? No. And he needed money?

00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:23.099
No. He was delusional? No, listen. He had a fetish

00:29:23.099 --> 00:29:25.490
for hairy -footed kids? As we all know. Whoa.

00:29:25.490 --> 00:29:29.009
Whoa. Hey, whoa. You put the kids in there like,

00:29:29.069 --> 00:29:35.549
hang on, what? You're like. No, so he was always

00:29:35.549 --> 00:29:39.549
kind of fascinated by ancient Greek and ancient

00:29:39.549 --> 00:29:43.009
Roman kind of mythos. Well, he failed them both.

00:29:43.170 --> 00:29:48.349
So when the Saxons came to England, like way

00:29:48.349 --> 00:29:51.890
back, whoever was settled there, I forget what

00:29:51.890 --> 00:29:56.240
they're called. they destroyed a whole lot of

00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.619
culture that was already here or in England.

00:30:00.019 --> 00:30:04.680
So England no longer had their ancient history

00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:07.279
the same way that Greece did, the same way that.

00:30:07.619 --> 00:30:09.839
Is that why they went and stole everybody else's?

00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:15.400
Yeah. So he wanted to write the story of what

00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:21.500
like Zeus and all that, but what was for their

00:30:21.500 --> 00:30:23.690
part of the world. And that's what the Lord of

00:30:23.690 --> 00:30:30.269
the Rings are, is their ancient history. His

00:30:30.269 --> 00:30:39.450
made -up version of their ancient history. Has

00:30:39.450 --> 00:30:42.670
he ever had magic mushrooms? I mean, he's probably

00:30:42.670 --> 00:30:45.289
smoked a bit of Gillyweed, but. Oh, wow. Now

00:30:45.289 --> 00:30:46.970
you're crossing over to Harry Potter's territory,

00:30:47.170 --> 00:30:50.109
mate. Isn't that what they call it? No. Oh, okay.

00:30:50.190 --> 00:30:51.230
What do they call it in the Lord of the Rings?

00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:54.740
I was going to ask Matt then, but I turned it

00:30:54.740 --> 00:30:57.920
off already. It's something weed. I forget what

00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:05.799
they call it. What weed do hobbits smoke? It's

00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:10.559
a very frequently asked question. It's called

00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.259
pipe weed. Pipe weed. Okay. Tolkien explicitly

00:31:14.259 --> 00:31:18.119
describes it as a variety probably of nicotiana.

00:31:18.650 --> 00:31:21.569
A plant genus that includes tobacco. Right, okay.

00:31:22.049 --> 00:31:25.509
They don't even smoke in good weed. Anyway, so,

00:31:25.609 --> 00:31:30.990
yeah. That was what he set out to do was create

00:31:30.990 --> 00:31:35.289
this kind of mythology for England that they

00:31:35.289 --> 00:31:41.289
had lost when the Saxons sacked. Yeah, they didn't

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like it, did they? Who? The Brits. They didn't

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like getting sacked, did they? It just went and

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did everywhere else. Well, it was well before

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Britain or anything was set out. Doesn't matter.

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Hang on, wasn't he 1887 or something? When he,

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yeah, okay. Come on, mate. God, come on, man.

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You're going to make up stories. You're going

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to make up stories. At least make them realistic.

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Yeah, okay. Chuck in like, I don't know, someone

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being a great director or something. Anyway,

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guys, thanks for joining us. You're really going

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to just bounce off the moon talking, aren't you?

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Man, I can't talk about the moon right now. I

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can't deal with that shit. He's a bit tired.

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He's been building a 21 by 27 metre shed all

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week. He's a little bit tasseled, aren't you,

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Seller? Cooked. He'll be right, mate. Yeah. I'll

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be good next week. Go and get a wife to give

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you a good deep massage. Yeah. Put your knees

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between your... Jesus Christ. On that note, we're

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going to go now. Put your knees between your

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kneecaps. Long, legs, flat tongue. Just say bye,

00:32:58.660 --> 00:33:03.480
Heidi. Thanks for joining us, guys. See you next

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time. Love, peace, chicken grease. Bye.
