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From the Dungeons of Morningstar, I'm Clint.

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I'm Tahn. I'm Ling. And I'm Stretch. And this

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is Prevailing Strange. Not the Christmas edition!

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Alright guys, so we've got a bit of a special,

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probably to wrap up the year. The idea is to

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kind of go over... Maybe what's coming out this

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year and just having a little talk with some

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friends. Fuck yeah, dude. The amount of content

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that we've got to cover this, just this last

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six months of the year is insane. I don't know

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where this is going to go. It's going to go off

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the rails quick, I think. We're going to need

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more memory cards, my friend. Like the Hobbit.

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Fuck off, guys. Oh, no way. Who's a fan of Lord

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of the Rings? Fuck you guys. Who's a fan of Aquaman?

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Fuck you, guy. I will admit I didn't mind the

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first one. I didn't mind. Wow. Where was your

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hand just now? Didn't mind. Where was your hand

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just now? Right here on the table. So I'm going

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to say I stand by my convictions. Much like you

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three stand by your convictions. I stand by the

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fact that I liked Aquaman in Justice League.

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I liked the character. It's just the movie fell

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short by a mile. The second one especially. Oh,

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my God. That was a load of shit. I just can't

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believe how bad. The bad guy looked in the fucking

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black suit with the big head. Black man? Black

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man's is always all about that in the comics.

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Yeah, that was comic accurate as fuck. Yeah,

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but just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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But if they didn't do it, everyone was like,

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what is this? Well, they didn't do it with Stearns

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in fucking Mr. Blue in fucking Captain America

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Brave New World. Yeah, they did. He looked pretty

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fucking spot on. No, he didn't. He had a big

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head in the comics. As a thinker, he had a big

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head in this. I didn't like that movie. I watched

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it last night. His head was like fucking all

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kind of cauliflower -like and shit. Yeah, it

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was like his brain had grown too big for his

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scone. Yeah, but did you see the fucking concept

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art they'd done for him before where he looked

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comic accurate with the fucking, like, the head

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out of the MTV show back in the fucking 90s?

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Did anybody who used to watch that, the head?

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No. Hang on. Did he have an alien inside his

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head? Purple alien in his head. Oh, yes, I do

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remember that. In the head. That sounds like

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my kind of shit. I've got it on DVD. I don't

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have a DVD player. Didn't they do an animation

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of that character, of Mordok? No, Mordok. Mordok?

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Mordok, yeah, they did. They did? Mordok's a

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full character. Yeah, Mordok was the guy out

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of Ant -Man 3. Well, Mordok spoke. Come on, MODOK's

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been around a long time before that. Anyway,

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circle back for a sec. They have done an adaption,

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yeah. There never would have been an uproar about

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that in Aquaman because in order for that to

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happen, people would have had to have given a

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shit about Aquaman. It was even an id joke in

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Entourage. When he played Aquaman. Yes! Because

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nobody would give a fuck about Aquaman. Remember

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Raj in the Big Bang? Yeah. On the same horse.

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They even ripped him off in fucking SpongeBob

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SquarePants. All right, quick question. Who's

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better, two characters, Aquaman or Dave? Aquaman.

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Yeah, Aquaman. Yeah, Aquaman, yeah. The deep

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fucks fish. I was about to say, though, I'm pretty

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sure the boys rip off Aquaman. Aquaman fucks

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fish, he just doesn't admit it. That's what I

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mean. The boys actually rip off Aquaman. You

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wouldn't have the deep if it wasn't for Aquaman.

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But I've got to admit, when I'm watching The

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Boys, The Deep is one of my favourite characters.

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Oh, what? Not favourite as in I like. Oh, that's

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messed up. Sorry. I get the most laughs out of

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him. Who brought this guy? When he tries to save

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the dolphin. Oh, yeah. Like, is that not one

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of the best? I know what you're trying to say.

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He brings the humor and the crazy, yeah. I know

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what you're saying. He was fucking that doll.

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But I wouldn't say he's my favorite character

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from that show. When he eyes the octopus while

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he's fucking all up. He was fucking it. He was

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fucking it. Hang on, wasn't he trying to tear

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up her threesome at some point? Yes. Yeah. Did

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you see they brought in a sex toy that's fucking

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made after the octopus? A tentacle, yeah. What

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the fuck, Link? I thought you were hanging a

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fucking bugbear dick around your neck or something.

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That's fucked up. Wait, wait, does he have fish

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tank? No. Woolworth. There's a court order, I'm

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not allowed. It's actually sad to think that

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we're last season of The Boys. I'm glad they're

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wrapping it up when it's going. Oh, I do. It

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is. But what else are we going to get after that?

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There's more V. I like V. I like V. I like V.

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I haven't watched it yet. It's good. And then

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we've got the Soldier Boy spin -off coming up.

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Oh, okay. Really? Yeah, that's the prequel to

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The Boys. Yeah, the prequel. Well, now I'm worried.

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If they're just going to spin off. Is this going

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into Walking Dead territory? There is a Mexican

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version coming out, like based in Mexico. Yeah.

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So, yeah, Walking Dead died for me when they

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started fucking pulling that shit. The season

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after Glenn died, man, I stopped watching. Yeah.

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I watched that season and it was after that that

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it dropped off. It was when Rick, when they took

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Rick away. Oh, I didn't even get to that. Yeah,

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no, I think that was the point that I ended it.

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It was like. Because he held the whole thing

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together. I think him and Glenn were the heart

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of the show. Yeah, but it could have gone on

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if they kept Rick in there. Yeah. Yeah, without

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the pair of them. Because Carl died too, didn't

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he? No, Carl did die. Yeah. Yeah, it was only

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the daughter that survived and was shown. Rick's

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still alive. They're still making a movie about

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that. Yeah, they're making shows about him now.

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Oh, they've made a TV show. It's coming out now,

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yeah. That's right. No movie anymore. Yeah. If

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Daryl died, nobody would have watched it. Daryl,

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yeah. Well, he's got his own show. Yeah, he's

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got his own show. Book of Carol. And then you've

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got the New York one, which is fucking Negan

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and Maggie. Yeah, Maggie. Fear the Walking Dead,

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that's finished. Yeah, it lasted like two seasons

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maybe. Yeah, right. I mean, as a bad guy, I really

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enjoyed Negan. He was fucking ruthless. They

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should have killed him off. Oh, dude. Yeah. Keeping

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him around. I mean, he's a cool character and

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stuff like that, but they just kind of, the whole

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thing was about ending lives and ending stories

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and stuff like that, and then they decide to

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keep him around who did the worst thing so far.

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The worst. Yeah. Yeah. That was a brutal scene.

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And left him alive long enough to talk. With

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his eye hanging out of his head. That was up

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there with the Red Wedding. Yeah. Yeah, the Red

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Wedding was fucking wild. Yeah, that was pretty

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fucking rude. And the dolphin. That dolphin coming

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through that window. Fucking. And then the fucking

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when they flew into the whale in the next season.

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Oh, yes. Fuck off. We're going to go through

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it. What? Fucking plough this whale. I just love

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how he's seeing the deep there and everything

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and he's like. Yeah. Straight through the fucking

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whale. Dude, that show, I don't know. I think

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people should have Kripke's computer on lockdown

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because fuck. Fuck. These little people cop so

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much shit. Yeah. That scene, what's his name?

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What's his name? Ant -Man ripoff where he's fucking

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strolling through on my schlong. And he's like

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dancing to that and then fucking sneezes. Yeah.

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Who the fuck thinks of this shit? Not just that.

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The Mount Everest of cocaine behind this cunt

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fucking is he's walking into someone's urethra.

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That was a practical set, I'm telling you all.

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Put that on a fucking job card. I can't believe

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it's by the same people that are in Supernatural.

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Yeah. Really? Yeah. That's why you got Eccles

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in there and they're bringing the two others.

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are bringing in for the final season as well.

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Jeffrey D. Morgan and I forget what the other

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kid's name is. Yeah. Sam. Sam. Texas Walker.

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Oh, no, that was terrible. I watched one episode

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and I'm like, no. Wait, Texas Walker, Andrew,

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did they try and remake the one with Chuck Norris?

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Yeah. With Sam. With Sam, yeah, and it did not

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work. It was awful. Nothing against Sam, but

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you couldn't have replaced him. I mean, did you

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hear about over in the States, like when that

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wrapped up, they named a street after Chuck Norris?

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They had to rename it because no one crosses

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Chuck Norris and lives. I was going to say, this

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is a Chuck Norris joke. I've actually got it

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on one of my Reddit feeds. It's Chuck Norris

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jokes, and it's just constant. They're actually

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Chuck Norris facts. Yeah. I just told you that.

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When he pulled out the fucking Chuck Norris joke

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in fucking The Expendables. Oh, man. Yeah. It

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was bad. No, that was on point. That was perfect.

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If he hadn't said something like that. we all

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would have been disappointed. That's what The

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Expendables was about. Oh, yeah, 100%. If you

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were so disappointed by it, what's a movie that

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surprised you? What's a movie that you had no

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inkling about, you're watching and it blew you

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away? What, this year or ever? Yeah. I've got

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one. There you go. I don't think we talked about

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it earlier. I didn't get to say anything about

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it. A movie that you know that no one's seen

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or whatever. Love and Monsters. Great movie.

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Yes. That came out of nowhere. Yeah, I like that.

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And it blew me away. It was a good little movie.

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Yeah, I like that, eh? Teen Wolf and Maze Runner

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dude in it. Yeah. I like him as an actor. He

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nearly died, that poor fucker. Yeah. On the last

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Maze Runner. That's why it was knocked back for

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five years. Hit his head or something. Yeah,

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he had to learn to walk and everything, the poor

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little fucker. Oh, shit. Doing a stunt during

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Maze Runner, yeah. Sliding through the door or

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some shit. Yeah, the door was coming closed and

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he fucking. Door closed on his. Yeah. Oh, shit.

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Yeah. That's why they ended the series, yeah.

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They ended the series, but then he came back

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and finished it. Yeah. Oh, they didn't finish

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it, did they? Yeah. Did they? Yeah, they do.

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Was the Scorch Trials the last one? Yeah. Yeah,

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they finished that series, man. I don't think

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I've seen it. Yeah, fair enough. I was a bit

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disappointed. I read the books and I saw the

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books did it. A lot. Yeah. Most of the time I

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do, yeah. That's always the case, though, I guess.

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I mean, The Witcher, you watched season four?

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I've started, yeah. I've watched five episodes.

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Yeah. I've read the books and we shouldn't unpack

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that. Yeah. Sorry. Look, if you're a layman and

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you don't sort of do it, then there's no reason

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why you're going to watch this because. Why would

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you? If you've read the books and you watch this,

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you're going to be disappointed. 100%. Yeah.

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I think that's it, yeah. But if you just want

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to carry on a story from a video game that you

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were introduced to, then yeah, it's good. That's

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a different side of things. A lot of people with

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The Witcher, they go, oh, Witcher, Witcher 3.

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That's a game everybody knows. So a lot of people

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haven't read the… The original texts. But, yeah.

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If you're going to watch this, you're going to

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be disappointed if you love the books. But in

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saying that, isn't the Witcher, I know one and

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two more than three, but aren't they very close

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to the book? The first season was pretty much

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bang on, but it's the prequel. No, I meant the

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games. I meant the games. I don't know. That's

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what I'm saying. You're saying if you come from

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the games, you'll like it. But, I mean, from

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what I've heard, especially the first two games,

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They are pretty close to the source material.

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Yeah, no, no, no. I'm talking more because visually.

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Visually this looks so much more like the Witcher

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that people know from video games because he

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looks better as Geralt. I'm going to fucking

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say it. Oh, you actually prefer. He looks better

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as Geralt. Coming from someone that likes Aquaman.

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Yeah, Henry Cavill was fucking sexy as shit,

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but he didn't. That's not. Geralt was tall and

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gangly. Like he wasn't stacked. Henry Cavill

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was stacked, daddy. I suppose that's a bit like

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Reacher. Yeah, Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise was not

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Reacher. I've been reading the books and Tom

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Cruise was not Reacher. Good movies, but he wasn't

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Reacher. If they named that something else entirely,

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like, I don't know. Yeah, Mission Impossible.

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Or Nobody. Yeah. Like that Nobody movie with

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Bob Odenkirk in it is fucking sick. Number two

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was a bit of a disappointment. You know, that's

00:14:04.940 --> 00:14:06.779
fucking unreal. Come out of nowhere. Great movie.

00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:10.820
Yeah. That did not deserve a sequel. No. Tom

00:14:10.820 --> 00:14:12.700
Cruise could have made something like that and

00:14:12.700 --> 00:14:15.659
just not called it Jack Reacher. Oh, yeah. Except

00:14:15.659 --> 00:14:19.759
for the fact that the whole story was a Jack

00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:24.600
Reacher story. Yeah, but again. They could have

00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:27.000
done a different, yeah. But that's the problem.

00:14:28.590 --> 00:14:32.730
It was a Jack Reacher story. Yeah. So you sort

00:14:32.730 --> 00:14:36.649
of have to call it a Jack Reacher. Yeah. Change

00:14:36.649 --> 00:14:38.690
two or three things and a few names and you'd

00:14:38.690 --> 00:14:40.570
be all right. Because, I mean, they probably

00:14:40.570 --> 00:14:43.149
already changed a heap of stuff because you always

00:14:43.149 --> 00:14:45.470
change stuff with an adaptation. Yeah, it's a

00:14:45.470 --> 00:14:48.750
movie that's fucking caught your jollies. It

00:14:48.750 --> 00:14:53.570
wasn't a movie. So it was a TV show called Magicians

00:14:53.570 --> 00:14:56.629
based on the book The Magicians. Yeah, right.

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Okay, I got a little bit excited because I thought

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you were talking about The Magician. No, not

00:15:03.710 --> 00:15:09.370
The Magician. I did like The Magician. So Magicians

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by Lev Grossman, I believe it is. So it was kind

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of sold as like Harry Potter but in college and

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like a bit more adult. So I'd read the first

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book. And then watch the TV show. And it's the

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first time where it's been kind of that different

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that I've enjoyed them separately. Nice. Where

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I've liked both the properties, the book and

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the TV separately. Is this on a streaming? It

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was a sci -fi movie. Sci -fi production TV show.

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So where do we stream that here? I don't know.

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Maybe we have to sail the seven seas. They don't

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call me Redbeard for nothing. I watched it. I

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started watching it when we had Foxtel, so it

00:15:58.259 --> 00:16:04.679
was on Spotify. Foxtel. Yeah. So it was a pretty

00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:08.419
good story in the books, very kind of grounded,

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and then it got kind of whimsical in the TV show.

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Right. used the magic system in it and, like,

00:16:16.059 --> 00:16:20.320
so have you ever heard of tutting? So it's like

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a finger movement kind of people would do it

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to music and make patterns and stuff like that.

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They kind of adapted it for the way that they

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did spells in this. Yeah, right. And very kind

00:16:31.580 --> 00:16:34.740
of a cool visual. Like hand signs out of Naruto?

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Kind of, yeah, but without, like, the fox ox

00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:44.000
kind of. Japanese fucking mythology type thing.

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They're just kind of whatever they fucking felt

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like, really. That was the way that they weaved

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the spells in the show. But the main bad guy

00:16:55.100 --> 00:16:57.039
in it was pretty fucking cool, and there's some

00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:00.379
pretty adult themes in this whole thing. Yeah,

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it was a pretty good show. That surprised you.

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Nice. Yeah. What about you? You got one? No.

00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:09.819
K -pop Demon Hunters? You know how there's like

00:17:09.819 --> 00:17:12.539
been, to be honest, I knew I was going to fucking

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love that as soon as I read the title. I'm like,

00:17:16.019 --> 00:17:17.420
fuck yeah, and then it comes out in a couple

00:17:17.420 --> 00:17:20.279
of months and I'm like, fucking damn. I knew

00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:22.759
I was going to love it. K -pop, Demons, nah.

00:17:22.980 --> 00:17:26.279
Well, the main reason I watched it was because

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it was the same people who did into the spite

00:17:28.740 --> 00:17:31.359
of it. I did notice it was similar animation.

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Yeah, well, it was the same people behind it

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and I mean that. Is the Spider -Man movie. Yeah,

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I mean, yeah, Into the Spider -Verse, arcane.

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Greatest. Oh, dude, fucking arcane. The new age

00:17:45.130 --> 00:17:47.849
of animation is pretty fucking cool, man. But,

00:17:47.849 --> 00:17:51.750
I mean. Yes. I will hands down say Into the Spider

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-Verse is the best Spider -Man movie ever made.

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It's. No way home. It still holds. Nah. Yeah.

00:18:01.879 --> 00:18:04.880
I'm no way home. Just nostalgia and tickle brain

00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.359
reasons. Yeah, I understand that. I understand

00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:11.299
that. But, I mean, I think it was just a perfect

00:18:11.299 --> 00:18:14.640
fight. Oh, it's beautiful. It's unreal, and I

00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:17.460
can't wait to see that finish up. Oh, that's

00:18:17.460 --> 00:18:20.680
probably what pissed me off the most. After watching

00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:24.900
the second one, I'm like, okay. They split it

00:18:24.900 --> 00:18:27.910
up for the third one. Yeah, that's fine. And

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then until I found out how long we had to bloody

00:18:30.990 --> 00:18:34.730
wait. Peter Parker's been my boy since back in

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the day. That was the first comic I ever got

00:18:36.650 --> 00:18:40.930
into. Like, I love Spider -Man. So, like, I like

00:18:40.930 --> 00:18:44.450
Miles Morales. I love Spider -Gwen. She was great,

00:18:44.549 --> 00:18:47.650
yeah. Spider -Girl, whatever, you know, one you

00:18:47.650 --> 00:18:51.109
want to call her. All great. If it was Peter

00:18:51.109 --> 00:18:55.329
Parker's story in that animation. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:18:55.430 --> 00:18:59.789
I think it's more the way the story. Oh, it's

00:18:59.789 --> 00:19:03.529
a great story. From start to end, it was just

00:19:03.529 --> 00:19:08.150
laid out perfectly as a Spider -Man story. Closest

00:19:08.150 --> 00:19:13.190
to that would be Sam Raimi's Spider -Man 2. That's

00:19:13.190 --> 00:19:15.630
the next best one for me. That was a good bit,

00:19:15.670 --> 00:19:18.990
dude. Because Doc Ock was absolutely fucking

00:19:18.990 --> 00:19:22.789
perfect. Yeah, but the retribution in No Way

00:19:22.789 --> 00:19:25.130
Home, though. Oh, yeah. Peter, how you been,

00:19:25.150 --> 00:19:28.730
you guys? Trying to be better. It's like, fuck

00:19:28.730 --> 00:19:31.569
off. That's a callback straight to. And then

00:19:31.569 --> 00:19:37.849
fucking Peter saving MJ. Fuck off. And he just

00:19:37.849 --> 00:19:40.410
lands. He just lands and he holds her and he

00:19:40.410 --> 00:19:43.549
goes, are you okay? The fan service of all three

00:19:43.549 --> 00:19:46.490
of them jumped off the fucking structure. This?

00:19:47.069 --> 00:19:51.630
Yeah. This? A fucking meme. The only thing, though,

00:19:51.690 --> 00:19:56.569
is for me. That was all fan service. It wasn't.

00:19:57.210 --> 00:20:00.569
That's what you want. I don't know. As a fan,

00:20:00.690 --> 00:20:03.650
I want to see, yeah, that's where we go. Like,

00:20:03.650 --> 00:20:05.789
yes, that's probably my third favorite Spider

00:20:05.789 --> 00:20:09.089
-Man movie. But, I mean, as a story for Spider

00:20:09.089 --> 00:20:11.650
-Man, I don't want this whole tie in all these

00:20:11.650 --> 00:20:16.009
different cinematic universes together. I just

00:20:16.009 --> 00:20:20.549
want a good Spider -Man movie, a story. See,

00:20:20.630 --> 00:20:24.599
my favorite run in the comics is the. It's fucking

00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:26.940
alluded to me, the name of the arc. It's the

00:20:26.940 --> 00:20:31.980
one where the spider fucking, they're after the

00:20:31.980 --> 00:20:36.180
spider totems. There's a family called the Inheritors.

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I think they're called the Inheritors. And they're

00:20:38.220 --> 00:20:40.319
going throughout the spider -verse or the multiverse

00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:43.700
and in every universe killing a spider -totem,

00:20:43.740 --> 00:20:45.619
which is a Spider -Man, Spider -Woman, whatever

00:20:45.619 --> 00:20:49.259
version they've got. So it's Superior Spider

00:20:49.259 --> 00:20:51.759
-Man, which is Doc Ock stuck in Spider -Man's

00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:54.680
body. He's one of the first ones, I think, to

00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:57.599
come across them and survive. And then they start

00:20:57.599 --> 00:20:59.940
rounding up Spider -Man throughout the universe.

00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:01.640
I fucking remember this boy. And they end up

00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:04.680
fucking taking refuge in the universe where Spider

00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:07.640
-Man has become the Captain Marvel or the cosmic

00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:10.680
entity. So they're all there because they're

00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:15.089
safe. And it's kind of like Ben Reilly. You've

00:21:15.089 --> 00:21:17.349
got fucking Miles. You've got Gwen. You've got

00:21:17.349 --> 00:21:20.089
Spider -Man. You've got all the different fucking

00:21:20.089 --> 00:21:22.809
Peter Parkers. You've got Mayday Parker. And

00:21:22.809 --> 00:21:25.509
there's some of the best cover arts I've ever

00:21:25.509 --> 00:21:28.009
seen. It's just different versions of Spider

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-Man. You've got the UK one. You've got the Spider

00:21:30.509 --> 00:21:32.470
-Punk where he first appeared. You've kind of

00:21:32.470 --> 00:21:35.049
got all that shit that's influenced a lot of

00:21:35.049 --> 00:21:40.130
the Spider -Verse stuff. Really cool run. And

00:21:40.130 --> 00:21:41.849
I wanted to get a lot of that tattooed on me

00:21:41.849 --> 00:21:44.420
at one point. Yeah. You've got a whole other

00:21:44.420 --> 00:21:47.500
league, motherfucker. Yeah, true. So we've just

00:21:47.500 --> 00:21:52.839
reached comic book. Yeah. What was your first

00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:56.579
comic book? It was a Spider -Man run. Yeah. I

00:21:56.579 --> 00:22:00.980
picked it up from. So how did you get into? I

00:22:00.980 --> 00:22:05.839
found it at the newsagents on Abadir. They had

00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:08.140
a comic book rack. Oh, yeah. And I picked it

00:22:08.140 --> 00:22:10.980
up there. And it was. I used to buy other magazines

00:22:10.980 --> 00:22:15.720
there. When you were five or six? Boy, hell,

00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:19.859
hell. They were in plastic. I know. Yeah. I was

00:22:19.859 --> 00:22:23.019
going to say, I picked up the ones that. Shout

00:22:23.019 --> 00:22:25.339
out to Terry Payne, proprietor of fucking Abedin

00:22:25.339 --> 00:22:28.960
News Agents. I'd get the Xbox ones with the game

00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:30.680
demo did. Yeah. Fuck yeah, yeah. And all the

00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:36.220
PC ones. And yeah. PC Powerplay, my bitch. So

00:22:36.220 --> 00:22:39.119
that was kind of my go is I started finding them

00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:42.180
and it was like, it was a Spider -Man run. I

00:22:42.180 --> 00:22:44.839
forget which run it was. It wasn't even a run,

00:22:44.900 --> 00:22:49.140
sorry. It was an issue. And then I didn't kind

00:22:49.140 --> 00:22:52.059
of understand the whole kind of serial thing

00:22:52.059 --> 00:22:55.579
about it. And then I'd go up and I'd buy another

00:22:55.579 --> 00:22:59.759
issue and it was like The Avengers. And then

00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:02.799
I had a Thunderbolts from back in the day, like

00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:04.900
the old Thunderbolts that has nothing to do with

00:23:04.900 --> 00:23:07.839
the new movie. And, yeah, I've still got a whole

00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.319
bunch of old comics in my fucking cupboard of

00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:14.680
just one -offs that I'd bought and read and loved,

00:23:14.779 --> 00:23:16.279
and that was kind of my introduction. And then

00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:18.420
we started getting, like, the original X -Men

00:23:18.420 --> 00:23:21.500
series and the original fucking Spider -Man series

00:23:21.500 --> 00:23:24.680
on fucking Cheese TV and shit like that. How

00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:27.319
good was that X -Men series? Oh, so good. I haven't

00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:31.099
watched 97 yet. Oh, 97 is the bomb. It continues

00:23:31.099 --> 00:23:36.180
on exactly from the original. Oh, it is so good.

00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:40.579
It is amazing. And they've been picked up for

00:23:40.579 --> 00:23:43.839
a second season. So it's going ahead. X -Men

00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:47.859
98. I think it's still called 97. What about

00:23:47.859 --> 00:23:51.319
you, mate? Come on. First comic book I ever read

00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:56.019
was a Batman one. No idea where it come from.

00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:58.019
I just remember finding it on the floor when

00:23:58.019 --> 00:24:00.160
I was a kid and reading it. It started with an

00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:03.180
S tier. And I didn't really read anything until

00:24:03.180 --> 00:24:05.099
one of my friends said, hey, comics are cool,

00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:06.940
read these, and dropped a whole box of Ultima

00:24:06.940 --> 00:24:12.779
X -Men. Oh, fuck yes. And Messiah Complex. And

00:24:12.779 --> 00:24:15.980
then I was working at a car wash. at the time,

00:24:16.059 --> 00:24:17.619
like one of those automated ones, I'd just do

00:24:17.619 --> 00:24:20.440
maintenance work. And for lunch break, I had

00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:23.039
an app and I'd download comics and I'd read them

00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:26.480
while I was having lunch. Oh, yeah. The Planet

00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.339
Hulk run, did you read that yet? I knew about

00:24:30.339 --> 00:24:32.640
Hulk and I'm like, yeah, he's okay. But once

00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.160
I read Planet Hulk, I'm like, fuck. That's where

00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.279
it really started. That was one of the first

00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:43.750
kind of comics I bought. Saw Spider -Man, did

00:24:43.750 --> 00:24:45.569
a couple of things, and then I got that, and

00:24:45.569 --> 00:24:49.250
then Spawn came out not long after. What a fucking,

00:24:49.329 --> 00:24:51.930
what a cover. Come on, look at that shit. What

00:24:51.930 --> 00:24:54.990
a fucking cover. Well, you know. What a cover.

00:24:55.190 --> 00:24:57.750
He did both. He was the reason that Spider -Man

00:24:57.750 --> 00:25:01.970
does the poses he does. Talk about following.

00:25:02.109 --> 00:25:04.970
Yeah. I'll follow you on Instagram, dude. I love

00:25:04.970 --> 00:25:06.529
watching these little drawing classes he does.

00:25:06.549 --> 00:25:09.549
Even Jim Lee's versions of Spider -Man are fucking

00:25:09.549 --> 00:25:13.099
cool. Fucking massive eyes. I love that shit,

00:25:13.180 --> 00:25:17.079
dude. Isn't Spawn got a new one coming out? Spawn's

00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:19.000
actually got a movie coming out, too. Yeah, that's

00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:20.359
what I mean. It's been, well, it's in hiatus

00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:23.460
for a while now because fucking Jamie, what's

00:25:23.460 --> 00:25:25.740
his name, fucking nearly died. Yeah, because

00:25:25.740 --> 00:25:29.440
of Diddy. Anyway, we might wrap up. Oh, wow.

00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:33.200
Legit, legit, it was. Drop that bomb. Come on.

00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:34.859
We don't want to get cancelled. We don't want

00:25:34.859 --> 00:25:37.519
Diddy to come after us. No, he didn't come after

00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.279
us. Quick thing on Spawn first. One of the biggest

00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:44.859
influences about the music I listened to was

00:25:44.859 --> 00:25:47.140
from the fucking Spawn soundtrack. Spawn soundtrack.

00:25:47.140 --> 00:25:51.880
Epic soundtrack. The idea of putting a metal

00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:56.579
rock artist with a DJ. It was sick. Some of the

00:25:56.579 --> 00:25:59.079
best music. It was so good. One of the best silver

00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:01.779
chair songs I've ever heard in my life. One of

00:26:01.779 --> 00:26:03.559
the best incubus songs I've ever heard in my

00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.180
life. Yes. Filtering the crystal method. Oh,

00:26:06.180 --> 00:26:10.000
yes. I've got it on a bifold double fucking.

00:26:10.539 --> 00:26:14.000
Clear blue LP. Yeah. That was a great soundtrack.

00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:17.319
What was your first comic? My first comic? Okay,

00:26:17.420 --> 00:26:19.440
well, a bit of a long story behind this one.

00:26:21.579 --> 00:26:25.240
Because of you, you got me introduced to Kevin

00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:28.720
Smith. Fucking love Kevin Smith. I know. You

00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:32.640
introduced me to Morat. Fucking love Morat. And

00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:36.539
from that, I went and I discovered Clerks. Fucking

00:26:36.539 --> 00:26:40.000
love. And then one of his. Greatest movie is

00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:43.799
Chasing Amy. I haven't seen that one. Oh, my

00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:47.819
God. That is one of his best movies. Chasing

00:26:47.819 --> 00:26:51.380
Amy is good. Yeah, very, very, very sad. Anyway,

00:26:51.619 --> 00:26:54.519
Kevin Smith was big influence because of you.

00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:57.539
If you say Blood Man and Chronic, I'm probably

00:26:57.539 --> 00:26:59.420
going to piss myself. No, no, no, no, no, no,

00:26:59.420 --> 00:27:04.380
no. I picked up a Daredevil. Fucking Daredevil.

00:27:04.420 --> 00:27:10.049
Come on now. He did the. Re -launch of Daredevil.

00:27:10.769 --> 00:27:15.650
His story was good. I liked it, but it wasn't

00:27:15.650 --> 00:27:19.609
until after that. After that, I kept going with

00:27:19.609 --> 00:27:23.509
Daredevil after that, and he got the artwork

00:27:23.509 --> 00:27:27.269
changed, and some of the best artwork I've seen

00:27:27.269 --> 00:27:30.910
in comics, just the way they do the art. Like,

00:27:30.950 --> 00:27:34.170
everyone can do the comic book art. This is different.

00:27:36.190 --> 00:27:38.509
There's definitely been styles that have kind

00:27:38.509 --> 00:27:41.349
of reimagined the whole thing. Alex Ross, fucking

00:27:41.349 --> 00:27:45.190
dead. And I just like that dark grittiness that

00:27:45.190 --> 00:27:48.410
they brought into that run. That got me into

00:27:48.410 --> 00:27:51.230
it, and then I had friends from that who showed

00:27:51.230 --> 00:27:54.769
me, like, Planetary and stuff like that, and

00:27:54.769 --> 00:27:59.210
Astonishing X -Men. Yeah, but I always loved

00:27:59.210 --> 00:28:04.359
the cartoons. And I knew most of the lore. But

00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.640
that, yeah, that got me. And it was the range

00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.099
of not just the story, the art and everything.

00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:14.259
The thing that's awesome about comics is the

00:28:14.259 --> 00:28:16.519
fact that if you think about that storyline and

00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.180
there's a fair chance it's going to be written

00:28:18.180 --> 00:28:21.259
about. Because they don't give a fuck that there's

00:28:21.259 --> 00:28:23.140
a linear story. They can just go, okay, we're

00:28:23.140 --> 00:28:25.740
going to have Uncanny at the start and it's going

00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:27.180
to be a run. We're going to have Astonishing

00:28:27.180 --> 00:28:29.079
at the start and it's going to have a run. And

00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:31.940
it's just everybody can have a go. One of the

00:28:31.940 --> 00:28:35.240
first X -Men, no, not X -Men, Avengers runs I've

00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:41.519
read, it was when during the late 90s, early

00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:44.380
2000s, there was always kind of like the footnote

00:28:44.380 --> 00:28:47.279
to refer to another. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. And

00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.039
when they started putting the checklists in the

00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:50.720
back of the comics, like you need to make sure

00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:52.880
you read these ones to keep up with the story.

00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.920
And that's when I was like, okay, well. I've

00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:58.680
got to fucking find this. Like a challenge for

00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:00.740
you, like a mission state. And, like, I thought

00:29:00.740 --> 00:29:02.700
when I first started doing it, I was like, okay,

00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:04.500
I thought this is just going to be a linear story.

00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:06.440
But they're not. They're stories that run concurrently.

00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:09.720
And they do this. They do the little swap over

00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.880
and cross over and daisy chain. Very cool. Yeah,

00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:16.880
dude. What were yours? The Darkness. Ah, yeah.

00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:20.619
Great game. Great game. Just when I started as

00:29:20.619 --> 00:29:25.869
an apprentice. I can't sing them. Yeah, I was

00:29:25.869 --> 00:29:28.069
just an apprentice at the tattoo shop and go

00:29:28.069 --> 00:29:29.589
downstairs and there was this fucking silver

00:29:29.589 --> 00:29:31.990
chest. I think you talked about this, yeah. It

00:29:31.990 --> 00:29:34.430
was about that big. And it just had all the Darkness

00:29:34.430 --> 00:29:36.109
comics in there and it had a graphic novel in

00:29:36.109 --> 00:29:38.309
there. It was about that big, like a semi -hardcover.

00:29:38.430 --> 00:29:40.829
It was fucking beautiful. And it was just one

00:29:40.829 --> 00:29:43.049
linear story from the start when Jackie Estacado

00:29:43.049 --> 00:29:45.609
is blessed with this fucking. With this demon.

00:29:45.789 --> 00:29:48.529
Yeah. This curse. Plus with the curse. Fucking

00:29:48.529 --> 00:29:50.569
an awesome curse with all these little toxic

00:29:50.569 --> 00:29:53.329
motherfuckers called the Darklings and it's his

00:29:53.329 --> 00:29:57.250
life becoming an anti -hero where he rips people's

00:29:57.250 --> 00:30:00.490
spines from their bodies and pulls out body parts.

00:30:00.890 --> 00:30:03.589
Yeah. Did you play the game before? I did indeed.

00:30:03.730 --> 00:30:06.130
No, I didn't play it before. I played after.

00:30:06.269 --> 00:30:08.509
You played after. Yeah. I think it's a property

00:30:08.509 --> 00:30:10.369
that really needs to be picked up because it

00:30:10.369 --> 00:30:12.170
could be really fucking dark. Did you know those

00:30:12.170 --> 00:30:15.220
guys also did the Riddick game? Yeah, I did.

00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.160
Did you play that one? Escape from Butcher Bay.

00:30:17.420 --> 00:30:19.539
Oh, so good. It's probably one of the better

00:30:19.539 --> 00:30:22.559
first person games. Yeah. It and Witchblade at

00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.759
the time were big installments for image comics.

00:30:27.059 --> 00:30:30.359
Dragon, Spawn, like Image back in the day. They

00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.420
were big hitters, man. They were big hitters.

00:30:32.420 --> 00:30:35.299
Dark, evil, fucking adult comics. Yeah, they

00:30:35.299 --> 00:30:37.839
ever took fucking DC to become number two at

00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:39.519
the time. Marvel's pretty much always been the

00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.420
top. I was going to say, like from everyone's

00:30:42.420 --> 00:30:46.049
perspective on that, I'm guessing. Marvel. Always

00:30:46.049 --> 00:30:49.089
been a Marvel fan, but comic. Mostly Marvel.

00:30:49.230 --> 00:30:52.349
I was a fan of Fable and some other stuff as

00:30:52.349 --> 00:30:55.329
well. But I mean over DC especially. Oh, yeah,

00:30:55.349 --> 00:30:59.170
100%. Marvel over DC, no offence. None taken.

00:30:59.549 --> 00:31:09.009
Marvel or DC? Aquaman. I'm certain characters.

00:31:09.430 --> 00:31:15.549
I'm not a Marvel DC image. from each stable.

00:31:15.750 --> 00:31:17.910
I'll build my own stable out of their characters.

00:31:18.150 --> 00:31:22.950
I think I've got a handful of, like, Batman fucking

00:31:22.950 --> 00:31:31.390
runs. Yeah. Harsh. Harsh, man. Harsh. But that's

00:31:31.390 --> 00:31:33.630
it. I've got nothing else. Like, I probably wouldn't

00:31:33.630 --> 00:31:36.869
mind checking out Constantine. Yeah. Some good

00:31:36.869 --> 00:31:38.849
stories there, bro. Yeah, and Flash I know has

00:31:38.849 --> 00:31:40.869
had some good stuff. I do like him in the animated

00:31:40.869 --> 00:31:44.390
shit, but. Comics -wise, it's always been Marvel.

00:31:44.549 --> 00:31:47.849
You could not pay me to buy an Aquaman comic.

00:31:48.009 --> 00:31:51.670
You could not pay me to buy a Superman comic.

00:31:51.910 --> 00:31:54.970
Yeah, no. You could not pay me to buy a Wonder

00:31:54.970 --> 00:31:58.930
Woman comic. Fucking Batman, I will line up at

00:31:58.930 --> 00:32:01.930
a midnight release for one of those. I think

00:32:01.930 --> 00:32:10.470
what it comes down to me is DC seems too powerful.

00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.480
Yeah, they're definitely gods. They're gods where

00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.460
it's more science -based and people having real

00:32:17.460 --> 00:32:19.960
-world problems in Marvel. Yeah, Marvel. You're

00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.140
100 % right, dude. They see more real people.

00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.519
And that's why I like Batman, though. I like

00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:26.859
Batman because he's a real person. Well, that's

00:32:26.859 --> 00:32:28.579
why I like Spider -Man because he's just a kid

00:32:28.579 --> 00:32:31.359
trying to juggle a fucking hard situation. He's

00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:33.900
not doing anything perfectly. Yeah, and that's

00:32:33.900 --> 00:32:35.880
the same reason I like Daredevil because Daredevil

00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.869
is basically Batman. Yeah. Basically, yeah. Except

00:32:38.869 --> 00:32:40.289
for the millions of dollars. The religious shit.

00:32:40.430 --> 00:32:44.089
Yeah. Yeah. It's quite religious. Wrap us up,

00:32:44.150 --> 00:32:46.369
sir. Right on. Okay. Thank you guys for joining

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