From the Dungeons of Morningstar, my name's Stretch.
And I'm Clint, and this is Prevailing Strange.
This installment of Prevailing Strange is what
we like to call Rant and Sundry, where we touch
on some of the subjects that we've previously
gone over and follow wherever the tangents take
us. Hey, buddy. Fuck off. What was I going to
say earlier? Before when we were talking about
how on Monday's show that Kevin Feige said they're
going to recast the X -Men. Yeah. Plus A -list
stars. I saw a clip from The New Mutants the
other day. I did not mind that movie. It was
good, dude. I like the horror -esque X -Men sort
of shit. Yeah. Horror mutant. Wouldn't mind seeing
them come back in some kind of way. What was
the other one I watched? There was another one
that came out as well. It wasn't New Mutants.
It was – now, Maisie Williams wasn't in New Mutants,
was she? Yes, she was. So that was that one with
her. Yeah, she played Wolfsbane. Right, okay,
sweet. There was a TV series that came out as
well. With Polaris and that in it? Yeah. What
was that? Was it something like The Mutants?
No. I don't know. What was it called? Mutant
X? Is that what it was called? The superhero
television series created by the Marvel Comics
license, but with no... Did it have all made
from... Three seasons. Three seasons. Okay. It
had all made from true blood in it and... Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know if that was it or
not. But all I know is, yeah, The New Mutants
was good. Psychiatric ward, wasn't it? Yeah.
That was, yeah. Anya Taylor -Joy. It was, I can't
remember his name, from Stranger Things. Yeah.
Yeah, Billy's brother. Mm -hmm. Maisie Williams
and a couple other people. I didn't mind that
show, man. I thought that movie was pretty good.
Yeah. I liked it. In saying that, though, like,
I'm all for that. If you go the Harry Potter
route. and just have people that we've never
heard of before, okay, I'm all right, as long
as the story is good. I want Colossus from Deadpool
in BMCU and his sister Magic would be fucking
great. But see, he is – that's Professor Xavier's
brother. Colossus? Yeah. No, he's not. No, that's
Juggernaut. Oh, sorry. Yeah, Juggernaut, sorry.
Colossus. Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
Yeah. Peter. Yeah, you're right. I reckon he'd
look good. Yeah, like you. Would you have him
like in Deadpool or would you have him like in
X2, how he can change? Yeah, I mean I do like
the size that they used of the character in Deadpool
and they obviously sized him up for that. So
to find somebody that would play that role, kind
of hard. You're right, yeah. But, I mean, one
of the cool things about Kloss is he – you know,
turns the metal. Yeah. He's on and off. Like,
he's not always fucking metal. Well, that's the
thing in Deadpool. You never see him, even Deadpool
1 to 3, you never see him not as Colossus. Yeah.
But I did like Colossus in Deadpool. I thought
he was cool. Yeah. Yeah. Having that sense of
humour, having that 100 % right, like, I only
do things that are good. Yeah. I liked his character,
man. I thought he was good. Yeah. Oh, man. And,
like, I would like it if they brought in some
other characters too, not just the main cast.
If the X -Men weren't necessarily the OG lineup.
Well, now this is where I'd differ from you.
If you're going to give me an X -Men movie, X
-Men TV show, I need Cyclops, I need Storm, I
need Jean Grey, I need Wolverine. You need them
characters. You need Professor Xavier. You can't
have an X -Men movie without a Professor Xavier.
Yeah, I mean. Because they're his X -Men. But,
I mean, like, maybe not all that line up. I don't
know. Like, I want it, but I also want the great
thing about the X -Men, the mutants, there's
that many. So many. There are many. And there
are many cool characters, too. Cannonball, Jamie
Madrox, the multiple men. Yeah. They've all kind
of – Cannonball hasn't shown up in anything yet.
At all. But, like, man, there's some fucking
cool characters with some cool visual powers
too, like powers that evoke, like, coolness.
Okay. If you were given five spots for an X -Men
movie, the first one of the MCU, you can pick
any of the mutants. You don't have to cast the
Brotherhood. We don't even need to have the Brotherhood.
We don't need to have Magneto. He doesn't even
need to be there. I want to see your team from
Professor Xavier's Cool for Gifted Youngsters.
Cannonball. I'd love to see Cannonball on the
big screen. Yeah, right. Big Indian fella. Warpath.
Warpath. Fucking loved Warpath. He was great
in Days of Future Past too. What's the one where
fucking Deadpool and that go around killing people?
In the comic series. Is it X -Factor? X -Force.
X -Force, that's the one I'm thinking of. Yeah,
Warpath in X -Force was fucking sick. Like, big
dude, impervious, uses two fucking Bowie knives,
just fucking could look really cool on screen.
He was smaller in Days of Future Past, but he
was still a compelling character. Yeah. The way
that he could see, the way his consciousness
could move. I didn't mind that. Nightcrawler
again. Oh, dude. Like a young Nightcrawler. Yeah.
He's such a great character, man. Yeah. Kurt
Vockner. Yeah. I'd like to see Rogue with Carol
Denver's powers from the 80s. Fucking like flight
and strength. I could do with – okay, keep going.
This is your list. Go. I'd rather see Jubilee
than Rogue. And we haven't seen Jubilee. You
see a little bit of her in X1. Yeah. But that's
it. Mm -hmm. Morph. Oh, yes. I remember the first
time that series came out and fucking Morph died.
I was heartbroken. Yeah. Yeah. See? It was a
flashback, too. It was like a flashback of, you
know, Morph dying and shit. But, yeah. That's
not a bad list. So what was it? Cannonball? Rogue?
With powers, not just being able to leech shit.
Yep. Morph. Warpath. And? Colossus. I didn't
say Colossus. Oh, you don't want Colossus now?
I like Colossus, but I didn't say it in that
lineup, did I? Well, I don't know the other one
you said. Well, come back to me while you're
telling me yours. Okay. I've already told you
mine. Oh, you just have the original OG. You
can't not. You can't have a professional Xavier
team without Cyclops. I said Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler's
it. You can't have him without Cyclops. Cyclops
is his number one guy. You can't have a Cyclops
story without a Storm or a Jean Grey. I want
to say a good Cyclops. He's usually a bitch.
Maybe he's a little bitch. Jean, no. Fuck off,
dickhead. You can't have Cyclops without Jean
Grey or Storm. I would love to see a Remy Lebeau,
but we're going to see him later on anyway. So
I'm fine with that. I don't think I want to see
the Phoenix Horse again. Me neither at all. I
don't want to see – I'm going to say what I want
to see. So Cyclops, either Jean Grey or Storm.
No, we're going to go Storm. So Cyclops, Storm,
yeah. Yeah, I'm going to go Kurt Wagner. I don't
even need to see a Wolverine in that first team.
He can wait. I think Jubilee. I want to see Jubilee.
They'd have to fucking scale up her powers somehow.
I don't just want to see sparkles. I want to
see some good shit. But she deserves it, man.
She's in one of the OGs. She needs to have her
time to shine. Pun intended. Yeah. Yeah, multiple
men, I think. Yeah, I reckon that'd be sick.
X -Factor was a good run. Yeah, dude. Strong
guy and multiple man. Yeah. I forget some of
the other characters that are in there, but that
was a good run. I liked that. So, yeah, they're
my five. Multiple man, Cyclops, Storm, Jubilee,
Nightcrawler. I reckon they'd be sick. Yeah.
Having Jean Grey in there is just too meta. Yeah.
Wolverine is just, it's. Too obvious. Like I
said, you have to have Cyclops. He's the best
leader. He's the best leader that they've had.
So, yeah, that's my five. Time will tell what's
going to happen there. Well, actually, I'm pretty
sure people watch our podcast because we've seen
some shit in the last couple of weeks that we've
said and now they're doing it. Yeah, we know
some shit. One of 12 viewers is fucking some
exact fucking course. Yeah, it is. Hey, mate,
these two – sorry. I was going to say an Aussie
accent, but they wouldn't have an Aussie accent.
They'd probably have a – wow, I'm not going to
say that, especially online. Holy shit, we'll
be cancelled quicker than fucking Jimmy Swoles.
Joey Swole. Joey Swole. That's it. I thought
I had something extra that was going to blow
your mind, but I don't. Saw this post today from
a group, a couple of guys over in the States
called Raiders of the Lost Podcast. Raiders of
the Lost Podcast. Basically movies, that's what
they do. And they were talking about Dredd. So
when Dredd came out with Carl Urban and what
kind of nerfed it in the box office was the fact
that it was not long after Avatar. It was advertised
as like just 3D. It was coming out. It was, yeah.
Yeah, it was coming out as 3D and that was it.
Yeah. And apparently it showed up to all these
cinemas that didn't have the right kind of set
up. The 3D compatibility sort of shit. And there
was all these other cinemas that couldn't get
it because they didn't have it and were clamoring
for just a 2D one. And even when it released
on. Blu -ray and stuff like that. It was all
3D Blu -ray and shit. It was shot very heavily
for 3D, though. You can tell just by watching
the movie. Yeah. Especially the end where Mama,
like when she hits the deck and you can see her
falling into the glass and then sort of just
splatters. Yeah. It was very, like, yeah, you're
right. It was very shot for 3D. So they reckon
that kind of hurt it a lot, the production company
or whoever sends it out. Yeah. Distribution.
Yeah, it was just they were aiming. That was
going to be the next big thing was 3D. Fucking
Avatar did it. All of Hollywood was going that
way. That was the idea that they thought. Funny
you say that because when Avatar came out in
3D on Blu -ray, I actually bought myself a 3D
TV just because of that. And now for about probably
a two, three -year period, yeah, 3D was a massive
thing. Everything was coming out in 3D. Like
with the special polarized glasses and shit that
were battery operated and shit like that. Well,
we've got TVs now that you don't need it. Don't
need glasses. There's a depth in it. Fuck, wouldn't
that be all right? Yeah, kind of like the 3DS
technology. Yeah, right. You know how the 3DS
has that depth to it? I'm pretty sure you've
got TVs that will do it without fucking glasses
now. Yeah, well, having that depth would be pretty
sick. But I've got Meta 3. I've got VR goggles.
Yeah, I never got the 3D thing. It's a funny
gimmick. I don't think it improves anything.
Bro, 100 % it's just a gimmick. That's all it
is. Yeah. I want to see the more I see 3D, the
more I don't give a fuck about it. I want more
of that wraparound. I want that 180 view. I want
to see that shit. Like the sphere, and I say
it all the time, I'm blowing the fucking sphere
so hard. But having even. I've seen these new
models come out, the 49 -inch ultra -wide curves
from Sony. Not from Sony, from Samsung. And they've
got a 109 -degree curve. You put three of these
things together and they're past your 180 -degree
view. Like you put your hands at the corners
and you can't see the end of things, so you're
literally turning like this to see it. See, for
games that's fine, but a movie? You miss shit.
The whole idea of a movie is you're being directed
into what you need to see. Yeah. So 3D or going
further into that just doesn't work, you know
what I mean? Like especially when there's parts
where like in a movie they will obscure something
which like the character can't see it because
we can't see it but all of a sudden they're scared
by something where if the camera just turned
it would have been there anyway. Like there's
that whole kind of magic of a movie that, you
know, the character reacts when we get to see
it. Yeah. Even though they physically could have
seen the fucking thing. Yeah. If you start bringing
in depth further into like a wraparound screen
and. You're going to have more of that holder
having to turn around 180 degrees to see shit.
Where do you look? Do you look in the middle
where, you know, where the director is directing
us to look because that's where the story is?
Are we missing anything or is this just all fluff?
However, as we were talking about on Monday's
show, we had the news, where IMAX, where they've
seen the Fantastic Four and Galactus, you're
seeing - Completely different. That's like a
static shot. You're seeing - I agree. But again,
don't you think there's that one shot from the
Matrix in the sphere? where they're showing the
helicopter hitting the building and then the
ripples that come out from the glass. Now, on
our TV screens, we see this much of it. On the
sphere, that ripple keeps going up the building
because it's – don't have the important viewpoint
over here, but having that building, having that
street so that you can look down the street and
– Or you can look up at the building, you know,
for Kamala. I mean, there is definitely something
to say to have that, for having that extra for
that kind of. Immersion. Immersion, yes. But
like trying to tell a story in a 360 degree kind
of vision. Yeah. It wouldn't work. No, I agree.
Having that, trying to tell the story in such
a wide aspect would be stupid and weird. But
having things that are outside, like say we're
at Interstellar where they're at the baseball
game, right? So you can see the baseball game
in front of you and then the storm rolls in and
you can see the sandstorm rolling in above the
screen and then it starts filling the screen
and then you look to that side and you can see
people. but then all of a sudden the sand blocks
all that out and that's not where you can see
anymore. Whether playing baseball on the fucking
space station, that'd be pretty gnarly at the
Sphere. Right. Playing baseball up there. Yes,
sir. There's definitely aspects, but it's not
like it'd be all to end all. No. But see, that's
what I'll, and when I watch movies in VR as well,
because I do a lot of that, being able to look
around the environment with me goggles on is
fucking sensational. I know it's, I agree that
the 3D was a gimmick, but having that extra immersion,
I'm all for that. 3D isn't immersion though.
It really isn't. No, but I was like, you know,
it's giving you that something else that makes
you want to feel like you're in. Yeah. So kind
of the next step for me, I would assume from
that would be like, A virtual reality viewing
of a movie where you're in the room or fucking
whatever. I don't think it would work. So did
you ever watch Hardcore Henry? No. Hardcore Henry
is a one -shot movie. I know what it is. From
the GoPro. Yep. Right? I'll watch that for probably
about 45 minutes. I can't watch that all the
way through because I'll start feeling fucking
sick. There's only so much running around and
like. bouncing and fucking swerving and shit,
there's only so much it can take. Mm -hmm. Yeah.
We don't have any 4DX cinemas over here, do we?
No. Oh, I think there's something in Sydney where
the chairs tilt and they blow Mr. Ian shit. Is
that what you're talking about? Snow falls from
the ceiling and if it rains, there's water that
sprinkles down and shit like that. And when there's
a burnout, it smells burning rubber and stuff
like that, so the scent's come through as well.
Big thing over in the States apparently. So school
shootings, but we don't have those here. Sorry,
they just roll off so easy. Too easy. I've got
to stop being so anti -America. I'm not really
anti -America, but I do say some nasty shit because
I'm going there in November and if they do a
background check, we're fucked. They check socials
apparently. Lucky I don't write anything on socials.
Do I? I don't know. I'm going to have to check
everything. Yeah. Your jokes will get us arrested.
No, I'm not going there. No, no. Yeah, bugger
you. I'm excited for a man. I was talking to
a mate of mine, Ray, who's over there. He just
moved over there to be a tattoo artist. Well,
he's a tattoo artist. He's one of the best that
I've seen. But he's moved over there and he's
going to – there's going to be an expo. Probably
about two or three hours away from where I'm
going to be in November. He goes, oh, do come
up and I can have a chat and blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, I might actually make that trip. So
I might go to a tattoo expo while I'm there.
Yeah, nice. Should be pretty cool. Have you seen
that dude who's making gasoline out of burning
plastic? He went missing for a week or so. He
wasn't missing. No, he was in hiding. Yeah. He's
like, Black Hawk helicopters are flying over
my property. I'm like, dude, come on now. How
do you know they're Black Hawks? Pretty gnarly.
It's like pretty intensive what he's doing. If
it works, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, burning
plastic down to make fucking fuel and like no
emissions either. He's just incinerating shit
to dust. See, this is the thing that I was, I
read something about it, right? So if he fitted
this to a boat and then have you seen that garbage
island? If you drove around that garbage island
with a boat that was powered by fuel from the
plastics that were burning. I don't know why
I drew a shitty sailboat like that. But as it's
going in, it's galactus and the shit out of all
the plastic and then just pooping out all the
emissions or the lack of emissions. This kid
could be a multi -billionaire or he could be
dead. Oh, man, didn't they run with that for
a fucking couple of days there? He's missing.
Yeah, oh, my God. Everybody quick. Then his mum's
like, he's not missing. He's just laying low
for a couple of days. Check your mailbox. But,
dude, there was a – well, they're going on about
the bloke who made that car that ran only on
water. And, like, where's he now? Well, he's
probably part of the landfill that old mate's
burning. Yeah, there's plenty of stories of those
kind of going missing. Mate, you go all the way
back to Mr. Nikola Tesla. Yeah, they fucked him
over. Hardcore. Hardcore. But when you start
talking about taking people's money, they're
going to do shit. But that's why we'll never
get to that point. Capitalism, bro. It's too
much money. It's too much money in oil. Rich
people want to be richer. And that's why we're
not going to get – that's why the electric car
is pointless. It's great as a gimmick. I mean,
you've got the Tesla Plaid, which can go from
0 to 120 kilometres per hour in under two seconds.
Yeah. Fucking what? Yeah, fast, man. Fucking
fast. Yeah, unfortunately, it's just not practical.
I don't think the parts. Not at all. Just to
create them uses more emissions than, like create
one uses more emissions than a diesel car does
for five years or some shit. And then, you know,
a battery only lasts 10 years. So you've got
to get a new battery. Have you seen how much
the fucking battery is? You know how you buy,
like, an electronic product, and after a while
they can get hinky? Yeah, like your mobile phone.
After, like, six months, it don't charge to full
charge all the time. Yeah, well, that's fucking
designed into the program. That's fucking bullshit.
It was designed obsolescence. Yeah, thank you,
fucking, what's his name? Fucking Edison, the
light bulbs. Back to light bulbs with fucking
Nikola Tesla and fucking all that shit. Well,
that was actually what they call it. It was literally
called the light bulb agreement between all the
people like General Electric and all that sort
of shit. Like, hey, you can't have that light
bulb that lasts for eternity because then everybody
else is going to be running out of business.
So all the people that made light bulbs were
like. How do we make more money out of this?
Yeah. We've got to have them so they break down.
Building obsolescence. Yeah. So there's still
that one in that fucking fire station over in
New York that's still going. It's been going
for like 110 years or something. Yeah. Yeah.
One of the old fucking dogs that are still running.
Yeah. It's possible. It's never been turned off.
It's possible to have light sources that don't
burn out. But no, they want money. Yeah. Fucking
capitalist dogs. We're not going to make money
if you've got a light bulb that lasts forever.
Yeah. Wild. And it's like. So with the phones,
with Apple and France, have you heard about that?
Yeah. So Apple got sued not long ago for the
whole lightning thing. So they've changed to
USB -C because it should be illegal that, you
know, you have to buy the proprietary fucking
bullshit. Yes. Like you're not always going to
have an Apple store nearby. That was the European
Union sued them. So they've had to change it
up because of that. So it was another European
thing. The French had noticed, which a lot of
people do, is your battery starts dying, your
phone starts fucking up after a certain amount
of time, so you update it. They're like somebody
had found it in the programming. Yeah. So if
you're in Europe and you set your phone location
to France because they sued and won, your phone
will last. It just won't. Is that right? Yeah,
the programming changes. It's fucking, yeah,
in France, yeah, your phone will just last as
long as you have it pretty much until it gives
up the ghost. Fucking Frenchman and the NATO
revolution, don't they? And, yeah, just the fact
that, you know, everybody knows about this but
the rest of the world just goes along with fucking
what they're doing anyway. Yeah. I saw this the
other day, a new order to watch the first two.
trilogies of star wars you begin i have seen
that they were named wrong they should have been
named differently this is why every star wars
film has the wrong title what happens in episode
one we meet anakin skywalker the rise of skywalker
years later we find out that palpatine leader
of the sith have ordered an army to destroy the
jedi revenge of the sith in episode three order
66 happens and the clones attack attack the clones
In Episode 4, Obi -Wan teaches Luke that it's
time for the Jedi to return. Return of the Jedi.
In Episode 5, Yoda teaches Luke how to use the
Force. The Force awakens. In Episode 6, both
Yoda and Anakin die, which makes Luke the last
Jedi. After the Empire is destroyed, a new Empire
comes. The Empire strikes back. Come on, guys.
In Episode 8, Luke trains Rey and then sacrifices
himself to give the Resistance a new hope. Finally,
in episode nine, Palpatine returns from the dead,
making him the Phantom Menace. Yeah, I've seen
that. That's not what I'm talking about. Okay,
okay. Just the watching order. So number four,
you start off with A New Hope. So you start with
A New Hope. That way you get the story of A New
Hope, and then you go back. A New Hope is the
first one anyway, isn't it? Episode four. Episode
four, yep. Right, okay. Then you go back and
watch Obi -Wan and Anakin in... Clone Wars, like
Luke's told, that fucking his dad and that happened.
So one and two, you watch one and two. Oh, okay.
Yeah, so four, one, two. Episode one is Phantom
Menace. That's one, yep. And episode two is Clone
Wars. Yep. And then you watch five, which is
Empire Strikes Back. And you get the Vader twist.
Empire Strikes Back. Oh, yep. I am your father.
Yep. And then you watch three. Attack of the
Clones. That's not Attack of the Clones. Three's
Return of the Sith. Sorry. Is that what it's
called? Yeah, my bad. Yeah, sorry. Which explains
why Vader fucking is Vader. Yep. And then six
concludes it all. So you're completely forgetting
about 789. Yeah. So instead of like, so I've
had people say, you know, how would you watch
Star Wars? And I've always said. 4, 5, 6, 1,
2, 3, purely because if you watch 1, 2, 3, 4,
5, 6, it just ruins the whole Vader thing. Yeah,
that whole, he said that you killed him. No,
I am your father. That there is one of the biggest
flips, twists, punching the fucking gut moments.
Quintessential moments of Star Wars, yeah. Yeah,
you need that. You're not going to get that and
go, he said that you killed him. And you're like,
that's his dad. Yeah. It's fine. Yeah. So, yeah,
I don't mind that kind of idea. Yeah. That makes
way more sense. Imagine if they did a supercut.
So instead of having this whole schmuzzle where
you've got to go back, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, rewrite the whole fucking thing. If they
just made like. So we've got six movies there.
So if they made like a seven -hour marathon but
just chopped out the fat that you didn't eat,
so that whole fucking tree scene on Dagobah,
fuck that off. We don't need to see that. We
don't need to see Luke's head inside a fucking
Darth Vader's helmet. No, that's right. Fuck
that off. Trim the fat, keep the basics in there,
and just make a super cut of a great movie like
they did with Breaking Bad. They made that two
-hour movie. out of the whole five seasons. Yeah,
I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it either.
It's really hard to find now. I think you might
be able to find it on Reddit or something like
that, but it's so hard to find now, man. But
yeah, I think someone should release a supercut
of the Star Wars franchise. So you saying that
has just reminded me. So Topher Grace, lead head
of that 70s show, he has a Star Wars edit. that
has only ever been shown at like his things and
it's pretty hard to get your hands on apparently.
I'm just trying to find a little bit of a rundown
of what it is. Yeah, right. It's an 85 -minute
edit of Star Wars that fixes the franchise apparently.
So who done that? Was it him that did it? Topher
Grace did it himself. Holy shit, yeah, right.
Yeah, the three prequel films, he re -edited
them into. The collective 418, which run at a
418 minute into 85 minutes. And by all accounts,
it's pretty damn good, is what everybody says
about it. So the cut's made. It's still a coherent
storyline, apparently. Gone's the pod racing,
the unnecessary explosions, the obnoxious CGI
characters that clutter the Star Wars episode.
So much. Instead, he begins the film with the
end of that one. So pretty much basically. Ignores
Phantom Menace. Yeah. So it begins with the final
showdown between Obi -Wan, Qui -Gon, and Darth
Maul, basically. What's that called? The Battle
of the Fates. Yep. That's what it's called. Yeah,
scenes like where Padme brings Anakin home to
meet a family deleted. That whole pedophile storyline
can just go to the fucking bin, dude. Yeah. Yeah.
I would like to try and find it one day, if I
can ever get my hands on it. But apparently,
yeah. Okay. Let's fucking get back to this pedophile,
right? Now. Why – if she was a senator – she
wasn't even a senator in that first one, was
she? She was 16. She was a princess. He was seven.
Yeah, I know. They're not in love then. I don't
know. It's messed up. But, like, I'm just putting
that in there. Why couldn't she be Princess Amidala
as a seven -year -old princess? Yeah, I don't
know. Princess Leia was a princess when she was
seven. Yeah. And then have them both, like –
14, 15 in the second one. Well, isn't there the
whole thing where Amidala's important because
she's a part of the Senate? You know, being 16,
she's old enough to be a part of politics. Well,
she was only part of the Senate in the second
one. In the first one, it was Princess Amidala.
Aren't they protecting her in the first one because
she's, like, of age or whatever? I don't know.
Yeah, it's fucking weird. It is weird. So weird,
man. Eddie, can you break my heart? Shut up.
Shut up. He was six. He took advantage. Apparently
there's a Hobbit edit. Fuck me. I'll see myself
out. Where they cut out all the Silmarillion
stuff and bring the chronological order back
in and basically it's the Hobbit book. But as
a movie, it's supposed to be pretty good. Like
it gets rid of half the fluff. It's just one
movie instead of. Three bloated fucking movies?
Do you think they should stop doing that? Bloating
the movies out? Bloating movies out, dude. Harry
Potter was a perfect example, okay? There was
stuff that didn't work for the movie, so they
cut it out. The whole house elf union thing that
Hermione was doing didn't work for the movie,
so they trimmed it. They didn't shove in something
completely different. They just trimmed that
out because it didn't work for that part of the
story. Now that the TV show is coming out, you
might get that fleshed out a bit more. Do you
think instead, I know the Lord of the Rings and
The Hobbit were epics, three hours fucking of
film, but they still tried to wedge more shit
in there. They're taking out stuff and they're
trying to fucking shoehorn more stuff in. I mean.
I do love the extended cuts of Lullarings. But
that's okay. Like the extended cuts will work
because you've got – there's so much story in
them books that weren't put in the movies. Like
John Bombadil for starters. Yeah. He should have
been in there because that's an imperative part
to fucking Mary and Pippin. Yes and no. Instead
of putting stuff out of the Silmarillion that
has nothing to do with it. Yeah. there's parts
that you took out of actual Lord of the Rings
films to put that in there. Why? I don't get
it. Yeah, no. Like with Jurassic Park. The Lost
World shows us the introduction to Jurassic Park
at the start of The Lost World. Why not just
have that at the start of Jurassic Park? Yeah,
I don't know. Books aren't lacking data. There's
so much story in the book so you can still keep
in there and if you want to put more bits in
there. I get it that you want to change it up
for a newer audience and the people that have
read the books already, you want to get them
interested as well. But I just don't, I hate
the fact that they do that. Oh, man, like as
soon as they said that The Hobbit was going to
be three movies, I'm like, how? Was that just
one book? Yeah. It was? Yeah. Okay. It was half
the size of any of the single fucking Lord of
the Rings books. And they still made it into
three movies. Yeah, that's what I couldn't understand
when they, I'm like, this is a cash grab. Like,
why? They could make it in one movie. Yeah. See,
that whole Desolation of Smaug thing, right?
He was, was it 17 minutes? He was in two movies?
Well, he's in the book, fuck all. I don't know
why they, yeah. But there was a whole, oh, we
need to find Smaug. It's like, why? Yeah. Leave
him the fuck alone. You're not going to be able
to move all that gold that he's hoarding. Like
in the book they wake him up and he goes out
and fucking they end up shooting him down when
he fucking shows himself above the river and
there's like a short dialogue between him and
Bilbo. But, yeah, it's just, you know, another
little bit. That's what I like about The Lord
of the Rings is you have hints at some world
building. Yep. that doesn't necessarily need
to be fully explained. It's just this cool aspect
that happens. You don't need a whole backstory
to a character that's introduced into a story
that plays a bit part anyway. Okay. Yeah. See,
and that's another thing because, again, I've
never read The Hobbit book because The Lord of
the Rings just put such a sour taste in my mouth.
That book was terrible. I wanted to like The
Hobbit. It had a dragon in it. I wanted to like
it. I fucking couldn't, man. I just couldn't
do it. So the Battle of Five Armies at the end
of fucking the last movie where there's a whole
heap of action. Are we talking about Hobbit 3?
Hobbit 3, yeah. Right. So in the book, the battle
starts. Bilbo gets hit on the head. He wakes
up after the battle finishes, and that's how
it happens in the books. There's no kind of description
of the fight. So basically. What I'm hearing
is Tolkien got high as fuck, fell asleep, was
meant to have a book handed in to his editor
and he fell asleep and he goes, ah, fuck it,
he fell asleep. He got hit in the head so we'll
just wake up later. No, it's a story about a
hobbit, a little person in a big world and his
little part. He wasn't going to fight in the
fight ever. Excuse me, I've seen Game of Thrones.
And? There's no hobbits in that? No, but Tyrion
Lannister is a little person and he fights. Not
really well. Still fights, motherfucker. Anything
that gets his scar. But what I'm saying is I
think it makes sense that he doesn't take part
in this battle. He doesn't witness it. Like it's
a whole, that'd be fucking traumatising to him.
Right. He just fucking cops a whack on the noggin.
Like even in the movie, he kind of, he's interweaving
a bit of the action and like the battle goes
on and he gets hit on the head at the end and
then he wakes up. after everything's kind of
died down, but they've put this whole battle
in there just for an action sequence and shit
like that. You're watching The Hobbit, three
movies of it, nine hours of this movie, right?
You get to the end and there's this battle of
the five armies. It fucking looks like it's going
to shape up. And then it wakes. and then the
eyes open and the battle's finished, would you
feel cheated if you went to the movies and seen
that? If it was three movies, yeah. But if it
was one movie, no. No? No. Okay, fair enough.
Yeah. But, yeah, if I went there and he got knocked
out, fade to black, and then back to light and
everything's finished, I'd be like, what the
fuck? Like, Legolas wasn't in The Hobbit. Like,
fucking, yeah. Yeah. When they changed his eye
colour for the movies. Like, I don't know why.
Give him a massive tan. He looked ethereal enough
in the fucking Lord of the Rings without the
fucking bright, you know, ocean blue eyes. He
looked 30 years older with more of a tan, but
his eyes were blue. Just leave him alone, man.
Like you just said, he didn't need to be in there.
Why put him in there at all? No. And then. The
love interest doesn't make sense either, like
with, what's her name? The Wasp? Lily? Something?
But, yeah, it's just, I don't know, just more
fucking elf fodder for fucking the fandom. Because
they like the pointy ears. Yeah, I'd, if I never,
again, you tell me that they're making the fucking
Rings of Power season four. Three. Three. Why?
I don't know. I can more for original storytelling,
but if you're going to fucking, Beat a dead horse,
man. Jesus Christ. And it was the most expensive
show ever made up until Harry Potter. And the
fact that it was more expensive than all three
of the movies made, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty
sure that's how it works. It was worth the first
season. And the armour looks fucking like plastic
compared to the movies. See, and that's the thing.
Technology of 3D printers and shit these days.
You know, you've got one. Lingy's got one. You
guys can make shit look fucking good, man. Like,
there's a bloke at the moment who just 3D printed
a full Iron Man costume out of PLA, and he's
got it looking like mirror -finished chrome,
dude. You couldn't tell. With all these multi
-million dollar budgets, why can't they do better?
They made the chain mail by hand for Lord of
the Rings. Holy shit. Yeah, like actual chain
mail. Now you can 3D print it. Yeah. And the
three movies was less than the first fucking
season. That's nuts, isn't it? That's so nuts.
Have you seen 3D printed chain mail? Yeah. Looks
good. Not bad. Looks so good. On film, it'd look
fine. Exactly. Well, not when it's like in a
sphere. Because each link would be this big.
Yeah. I'm going to actually, I've been wanting
to watch Star Wars with Logan. I think that might
be the order that we watch them in. So I'm going
to give that a roll. Yeah. Because like you said,
that gut punch that is your dad, you don't want
that to be spoiled by episodes three. Yeah, absolutely.
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