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From the Dungeons of Morningstar, I'm Clint.

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And I'm Stretch. And this is Prevailing Strange.

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This installment of Prevailing Strange is what

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we like to call Rant and Sundry, where we get

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to expand on some of the subjects that we've

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touched on previously this week and maybe follow

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some tangents down. Some kind of rabbit hole

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where we don't know what we're going to talk

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about. Tall chick get it, you dog. You wrote

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a few things down earlier. I didn't. You didn't.

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Did I? No, I didn't. I thought you were. No,

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I was just writing down. Well, I wrote down the

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audio book you said to listen to. A bit of news

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that I want to talk about next week. The alarm

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from that fantastic freaking four trailer. I'm

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going to say it again. Why? It didn't even need

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to be there. Yeah. Okay. If it's, right, listen.

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Right. If that's coming in from outer space,

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he's already got a ship that goes into space.

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They've already been out there. It's clearly

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in our atmosphere. Do they have satellites yet?

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Because when the fucking Fantastic Four first

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started kicking off, it was like the early 60s

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or whatever. Motherfucker, he's car flies. Yeah,

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but all the other cars are gas guzzlers. Yeah,

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but no, but he's got a spaceship. They've got

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a black and white TV. Yeah, but he's got a spaceship.

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It's retro, bro. He's got a spaceship. With a

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big four on it. Yeah, it doesn't mean they've

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got satellites. But they've got a spaceship.

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Why were you going out as... Nah. You can't,

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oh, we go out of space, but you don't have satellites.

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No, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to

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hear it. I'm pretty sure we went to space before

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we had satellites. No, no, I don't know. We still

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haven't been, we haven't been, we've only been

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to the moon once. If you've got some sort of,

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okay, all right, how did that alarm go off? What

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was it sensing? What was it sensing? Because

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it was in the atmosphere when the alarm goes

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off. I think you're getting too hung up on this.

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I'm all. I'm more concerned about the beard.

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The beard was weird. No, the beard doesn't bother

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me because rocks are fine. You can do what it

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wants. But he doesn't grow hair on his head.

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He doesn't have hair. He's got rocks. Why is

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he growing hair on his face? Well, as far as

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I knew, and from what I've seen, Michael Chiklis

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was bald, so he could have grown a beard because

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his hair on his head didn't grow. Our new thing

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has hair on his head. But when he's the thing,

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he doesn't have hair on his head. So I don't

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know. Yeah. We still haven't seen John Malkovich

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yet. No. Do you think he could be playing Galactus?

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The beard? The beard. No, Galactus was our cast.

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Who's our cast? I've never heard of him before.

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Was cast. Cut. Look, I don't know. I've got no

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idea. All I know is that I'm really, really,

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really hung up on that alarm. Fair enough. Do

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you have a joke? I've got a couple here. I knew

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you did, you dirty bitch. Okay, go. My wife paid

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$7 ,000 for a boob job. She did. I paid $30 ,000

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for a hand job and I'm the pervert? You got another

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one? I've got a few. Okay. What do you call a

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horse that doesn't fall over? I don't know. Stable.

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Nice. Nice. That was a good one. I love how you

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can pose yourself. I've got to get through it

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without breaking. Okay. Because he's fucking

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good at it. It's still one of my favourite shows.

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Okay. What do bars and bras have in common? They

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both got three letters. Doesn't matter how many

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I've seen, I still want to check out inside.

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Nice. Hell yeah. No, you're not allowed. We're

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married. It's a joke, mate. Jesus Christ. You're

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the only boobs that I want. Not yours, Steffi.

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You got any jokes? I don't. Oh, mate. Okay, go

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on. What's the difference between a kidney bean

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and a chickpea? I don't know. I wouldn't pay

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for a kidney to bean on my face. You've got to

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get through it. Oh, man. Oh, shit. I wouldn't

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pay for a kidney to bean on my face. Kidney to

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pee on your face? Bean. Kidney bean or chickpea.

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I wouldn't pay for a kidney to bean on my face.

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I wish I was a Ryan Gosling. Oh, Jesus. Wait,

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did you hear about the circus fire? No. It was

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intense. You're welcome, by the way. What's smarter

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than a talking dog? A spelling bee. It's so shit.

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It is. Come on, mate. You can't have, not all

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jokes can be good. That's true. Why does a chicken

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coop only have two doors? If it had four, it'd

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be a sedan. Oh, no. This is shit. I can just

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tell myself jokes and get so sore. Oh, God. I'm

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looking at me notes here for what we were talking

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about earlier. I know what I want to say, but

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I can't remember what. The subject we're talking

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about, so if I can bring it up. But I'm going

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to talk about it anyway. Yeah, you know why?

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Because we can read here. We can. Go for it.

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So you know the story 101 Dalmatians? Yeah. So

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there was an original, so it's based on a book,

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and there was a sequel to that book. Now, in

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that book, oh, I know what it was. We're talking

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about. The kids and the parents go missing and

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shit like that and stuff got weird. All humans

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disappear from Earth in the sequel to 101 Denimations.

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So it's just dogs. Really? And it gets to a point

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where dogs step up into people's positions to

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run the world as a dog president. And then they're

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telepathic and they're flying. Yeah, it's some

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fucking weird kooky shit, man. Really? Yeah,

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and this shit was written back in the 20s or

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whatever. I don't know what the fucking author

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was smoking. Dude, acid. It was on some good

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shit. Did they have acid in the 20s? I don't

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think they did. I think that was a 60s invention,

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wasn't it? Something like that. But I heard a

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story the other day, and it was a bloke was tripping

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on acid, and he said he was standing there, and

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he sat next to his dog, and he said to his dog,

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What do you call his dog? The dog's name is Buster.

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Good dog name. And he's like, hey, Buster, what's

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going on, man? I'm not feeling good. And the

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dog looked at him and goes, dude, I'd really

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hate that you call me Buster. My name's Dave.

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He's like, okay, Dave, no worries, mate. And

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then the next day after he'd come out of it,

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his dog wouldn't answer to Buster anymore. It

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would only answer to Dave. Fuck off. So his dog

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wouldn't. Buster, come here. Nope. Dave, come

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here. Fucking coming, bro. Trottle over. Come

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on. He talked to his dog and his dog said, that's

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not my name. My name's Dave. And then from there

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on would only answer to Dave. Everyone needs

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to be on acid. Everybody at home. Find your acid.

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Find your shrooms. Go for it. Man, the human

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brain is such a fucking weird and wild thing.

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Like they're using acid and MDMA to treat depression

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and shit these days. Bro, 30 % of your brain

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is used. Yeah, it's rewriting synapses and shit.

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Yeah, that's why I'm so much smarter than everybody

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else. Like when people have accidents and get

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hit on the head and then they wake up as like

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savants, mathematic savants, speaking languages

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they didn't speak before. And, like, these are

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legit studied cases and nobody knows why. Or

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they go and kill people. I don't think. No, I

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think I did hear something about that. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. Head injuries. Yeah. Head injuries

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turn people into psychopaths. The bloke who played

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half sack in Sons of Anarchy. Yep. So he was

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riding his bike one day, come off, head injury.

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After that, killed his landlord, his landlord's

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dog, and then took his own life. Wow. After the

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hand injury, dude, come on. You either see yourself

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become a hero or you live long enough to see

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yourself become the villain. You're either Batman

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or the Joker, whichever, flip a coin. You're

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two -faced as well then because you're going

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to flip a coin. But you see this shit and you're

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like, I've never got stoned and wanted to fight

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someone. I've never been on mushrooms. and wanted

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to hurt somebody. When I've been drunk, though,

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at a pub, I've been in so many altercations it

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isn't funny. But for some reason, I can go to

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a bottle and buy that. But I can't – well, I

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can now because I've got medicinal weed. So I'll

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go to the chemist and get that now. But I actually

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signed up with Paul Stamets, and they call him

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the godfather of mushrooms, right? So you can

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sign up for his trial, and he's actually doing

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something in the US right now where you can sign

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up for his drug trial. He wants to do as much

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as he can for the medical field, especially the

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brain medicine, where he will put you on something

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he calls the Stamets stack. Only one of these

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mushrooms is hallucinogenic. The rest are things

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like turkey tail, lion's mane, and he'll put

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you on this stack. and he wants you to check

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in every week. It lasted three months, man, and

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the response was overwhelming. There was that

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many people who said nothing but positive things

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about this, and now it's in front of Congress

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to get it passed. I legitimately think that if

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you go to your doctor and you go, look, I'm having

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these thoughts, I'm feeling a certain way, And

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their option is to go straight for a pill. That's

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an issue, man. We've got to talk about that.

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There's so much other shit that you can do for

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your brain. And it's literally, it is, you can

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see it on a scan before mushrooms or LSD, after

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mushrooms and LSD. There is a physical change

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in your synapses. There's a physical change in

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your brain activity. Why aren't more people talking

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about it? It's pretty fascinating. You've never

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had shrooms, have you? No. Dude, I'm telling

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you right now, it's going to change your life.

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You'll watch so many more movies. See, I'm the

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type of person that hallucinates when I get sick.

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So I'm like, I'm worried about, like, not worried,

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but like I've always kind of been a bit standoffish

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about it because I'm like. The first, like that's

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why the first time I ever tried any hallucinogenics

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was, we're probably going about eight years ago.

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And I tried DMT. That was my first ever tasting

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of hallucinogenics. And a mate of mine come up

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from down Cardiff and he's like, okay, I've done

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it before. I'm going to be your guide. So we

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sat in my room. It was cool. The lights were

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dimmed and I put on some, it was, Allison Chains,

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the acoustic version. I'm pretty sure you told

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me it was Allison Chains, yeah. And he's like,

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okay, mate, this is what we're going to do. Now,

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a mate of mine, Bo, had brought that DMT for

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me, and he said, you know, take it whenever.

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I'm like, okay. So I sat on it for probably about

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a year. I wasn't ready. I was going through some

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shit, and I ended up just going, okay, tonight's

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the night. I rang him up, and I go, bro, I'm

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thinking about doing this. He goes, I'm on my

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way. So we come up. and sat with me, and he's

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like, I'm going to guide you. I'm like, right,

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that's sweet. Literally, I went into a different

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dimension. There's no other way to explain it.

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It was like if you watch Star Trek and you're

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going through war. It was like that, and you

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open up into this massive plane. It was incredible,

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beautiful. Dude, I can't. The feelings you get

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from it, you can't explain. Which I find interesting

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because, like, you don't hear about anybody having

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a bad trip with this. Everybody sees the same

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shit. How does everybody see the same stuff,

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dude? Yeah, why is it touching a certain - How

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can Joe Rogan see the same shit I'm seeing when

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we're on opposite sides of the world? Yeah. It's

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so fucking weird. There's a comedian, his name

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is Paul the Joker. He's a Pommie fella, Scouts

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fella. So funny, dude. Fucking funny. His whole

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life, dude. Every tattoo he's got now. He completely

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changed, he said, after he had it. And, like,

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yeah. I am very curious about it. I've seen a

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fucking python, bro. The serpent is with me everywhere.

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I've got a tattoo on my chest. Dude, and that's

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the thing. I would not be where I am today. No.

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No. I would not be where I am today. If it weren't

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for that trip. Because up until that point, I

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was hard against all drugs. Every drug, no. Up

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until that point is when I was like, some drugs

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have a place. If you're going to wake up every

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morning and make yourself stupid, of course.

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It's abuse. It's abuse, isn't it? The fact that

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I'm 42 years old. I've had DMT once. Damn. Whoa.

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Not that old. Yeah, I've had DMT once. I've mentioned

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it a lot in this episode. My mate Emily O 'Brien,

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she was the first person to give me magic mushrooms.

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And I've got more of affinity for magic mushrooms

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than anything else. That there is my big reset.

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If I've had a massive month. And I'm not okay,

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whether it's just bills or shit with life in

00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:40.500
general, owning a small business, what's going

00:16:40.500 --> 00:16:43.379
on in the world today. If I need a hard reset,

00:16:43.580 --> 00:16:47.379
I'll get Rach to make me a tea. And it's just

00:16:47.379 --> 00:16:49.799
literally five grams of mushrooms and I'll make

00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:52.299
a lemon tea. I sit back, I sip it, and I just

00:16:52.299 --> 00:16:55.419
zone out for the night. It's four hours. Four

00:16:55.419 --> 00:16:59.750
hours I come back, I feel clear. 90 % of the

00:16:59.750 --> 00:17:01.549
shit that I've been concerned about has worked

00:17:01.549 --> 00:17:04.990
itself out and not through anything I've done,

00:17:05.150 --> 00:17:09.410
not through any other steps that I've taken outside

00:17:09.410 --> 00:17:13.269
of that trip. It's basically just in that moment.

00:17:13.430 --> 00:17:18.670
Like it's led my brain down a path of it's okay,

00:17:18.769 --> 00:17:20.309
mate. Everything's going to be all right. You're

00:17:20.309 --> 00:17:21.849
safe. Nothing's going to fucking – the world's

00:17:21.849 --> 00:17:25.990
not going to end today. And it keeps me going.

00:17:26.170 --> 00:17:28.940
That's awesome. It's the shit, dude. And I try

00:17:28.940 --> 00:17:33.259
to tell everybody that I've ever met that – and

00:17:33.259 --> 00:17:37.339
I'm sort of – in the end, I feel like Joe Rogan

00:17:37.339 --> 00:17:39.400
on podcasts and I tell people about psychedelics.

00:17:40.980 --> 00:17:43.920
But he's not as popular as me. Check out Joe

00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:46.599
Rogan's podcast, Joe Rogan Experience, wherever

00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:50.680
you watch podcasts. Yeah, I've always been curious

00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:53.759
about mushrooms. But like I said, when I get

00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:57.500
sick, beavers. I hallucinate and they're not

00:17:57.500 --> 00:18:00.359
always fucking good, man. They're fucking – they're

00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:05.059
pretty wild. And I'm good at telling them apart

00:18:05.059 --> 00:18:07.200
from reality, but for a minute there, they're

00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.640
like, what the fuck is going on here? Yeah, right.

00:18:11.819 --> 00:18:14.579
Yeah, so like I can feel for people that are

00:18:14.579 --> 00:18:17.359
like schizophrenic and shit like that. Like if

00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:21.400
you're living with what I have to cope with once

00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:24.720
in a blue moon, they're – Doing that every day

00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:30.099
now. Every day. Well, the worst, there was one

00:18:30.099 --> 00:18:34.339
trip I had, and I can legitimately tell you down

00:18:34.339 --> 00:18:36.960
to the strain of what sort of reaction I'm going

00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:39.599
to have. So I've got a mate of mine who grows

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his own mushrooms. That's for me when I want

00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:45.819
to have a great time, when I'm just like literally

00:18:45.819 --> 00:18:48.259
I sat there with Jack and laughed for an hour.

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Then I've got another strain. which will, it's

00:18:53.750 --> 00:18:59.109
more introspective. Like it's more, hey, dude,

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what's going on? Figure this shit out, sort it

00:19:01.549 --> 00:19:02.950
out, tell yourself what you need to tell yourself

00:19:02.950 --> 00:19:05.789
and let's move forward. And then there's another

00:19:05.789 --> 00:19:07.789
one where I just want to see some cool shit.

00:19:10.910 --> 00:19:15.990
The ones where I have the introspective, I've

00:19:15.990 --> 00:19:18.390
had that once and it was only by mistake because

00:19:18.390 --> 00:19:19.710
I didn't know what that strain was going to do

00:19:19.710 --> 00:19:23.829
to me. So I've had that and I was laying in bed

00:19:23.829 --> 00:19:30.329
with Rach and I'm like, I had a rough month,

00:19:30.369 --> 00:19:33.089
dude. I was really struggling and I'm like, I

00:19:33.089 --> 00:19:36.250
don't know what the fuck to do. I don't know

00:19:36.250 --> 00:19:39.349
how to get over this point. I'll have a tea.

00:19:40.170 --> 00:19:43.910
I had a tea and then I literally was laying in

00:19:43.910 --> 00:19:47.730
bed with her and Jack and I'm like, who am I

00:19:47.730 --> 00:19:50.990
if I'm not your husband and Logan's dad? Am I

00:19:50.990 --> 00:19:56.230
anybody? If I died tomorrow, what's going to

00:19:56.230 --> 00:20:02.890
be the effect of that? Will rain miss me? Will

00:20:02.890 --> 00:20:06.289
Logan realise I'm gone? Is it just going to be

00:20:06.289 --> 00:20:11.589
the fact that the bills keep piling up? What's

00:20:11.589 --> 00:20:14.690
going to happen after that point? If I stop existing

00:20:14.690 --> 00:20:18.890
today, what happens tomorrow? And then in the

00:20:18.890 --> 00:20:22.180
end I was like, is there any reassurance you

00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:25.380
can give me? And she's like, I think this is

00:20:25.380 --> 00:20:27.859
something you're going through on your own and

00:20:27.859 --> 00:20:31.940
I know for a fact that if you weren't to come

00:20:31.940 --> 00:20:34.119
home tomorrow that your son would be absolutely

00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.160
gutted. And I'm like, yeah, but that's just nailing

00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:39.559
home the fact that am I anyone other than Logan's

00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:45.940
dad? And then the other day he had a sleepover

00:20:45.940 --> 00:20:49.190
at Brett Naz's. And she told me when I got there

00:20:49.190 --> 00:20:52.609
the next day, she goes, he was up last night

00:20:52.609 --> 00:20:55.529
and he wouldn't go to bed. I'm like, why? She

00:20:55.529 --> 00:20:59.950
goes, because he couldn't go to sleep because

00:20:59.950 --> 00:21:03.769
you didn't tuck him in. And I'm like, okay. And

00:21:03.769 --> 00:21:05.150
she goes, he didn't know whether you were going

00:21:05.150 --> 00:21:08.009
to come back in the morning. I'm like, all right.

00:21:09.630 --> 00:21:12.069
And then I said to him, what's up, mate? And

00:21:12.069 --> 00:21:14.069
he goes, you're my best friend, daddy. I didn't

00:21:14.069 --> 00:21:17.849
know where you were. And I'm like, okay. So that

00:21:17.849 --> 00:21:20.369
brought me back to then. I'm not just his dad.

00:21:21.130 --> 00:21:24.329
I'm not just the bill payer. I'm someone's best

00:21:24.329 --> 00:21:27.230
friend. And when I'm not around, he misses me.

00:21:28.589 --> 00:21:33.309
So it calls back to shit. And it sort of puts

00:21:33.309 --> 00:21:35.769
a bit of oil on that squeaky part. It's like,

00:21:35.869 --> 00:21:39.029
okay, now you're lubricated. Now you know. And

00:21:39.029 --> 00:21:45.460
I've never had a bad trip. Never. To hear that

00:21:45.460 --> 00:21:46.880
you're someone's best friend even though he's

00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:49.079
six years old and that even when you're not there

00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:51.779
that he still remembers that daddy tucks me in.

00:21:51.940 --> 00:21:55.640
Yeah. It fucking, yeah. Yeah. You'll never hear

00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:58.619
me say a bad word about psychedelics, dude. Nice.

00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:02.480
I love it. Yeah. I love it. And I love being

00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:05.299
my six -year -old son's best friend. That's good.

00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:08.859
If that's all you are, that's fucking fantastic,

00:22:09.059 --> 00:22:10.400
man. It's pretty fucking good, isn't it? Yeah.

00:22:10.579 --> 00:22:12.720
You know you're much better than that. No, that's

00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:15.920
right. And like I said to him, Nugget posted

00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:19.339
the other day on social media. He's like, what

00:22:19.339 --> 00:22:22.359
motivates people? What motivates you to get out

00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:26.740
of bed? And I'm like, the bills and to give my

00:22:26.740 --> 00:22:31.859
kids the life that I never got. And that's not

00:22:31.859 --> 00:22:34.359
just a financial giving the life that I never

00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:39.960
got. It's to be a provider, a teacher, a nurturer,

00:22:40.059 --> 00:22:43.259
be present. Be present, dude. Fuck a nice one.

00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:46.220
Be present because at the end of the day, you

00:22:46.220 --> 00:22:49.779
can be a father. That doesn't mean you're a dad.

00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:51.900
You can be a father. That doesn't mean you're

00:22:51.900 --> 00:22:56.839
present. I was always told, I don't have to like

00:22:56.839 --> 00:22:58.400
you. You've got a roof over your head and clothes

00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:03.940
on your back. That's shit. It's not something

00:23:03.940 --> 00:23:09.220
you say to your son. No. And to hear that. It

00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:12.099
fucks you. That's something I could never, ever.

00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:15.000
Like, every day I drop Jack off. He's 17 years

00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.279
old. I'll drop him off at school. Last thing

00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:19.460
he does before he gets out of the car, hugs me

00:23:19.460 --> 00:23:21.079
to the point where he nearly breaks my ribs.

00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:24.259
And he's like, God, you're getting old. Yeah,

00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:28.319
be gentle with me, bro. But, yeah, get a hug

00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:31.240
from your kids. It's fucking sick, dude. Fucking

00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:35.400
hell. Wow, we've really gone down this. This

00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:37.740
isn't about movies anymore, is it? Getting a

00:23:37.740 --> 00:23:41.140
bit somber. Tell me something about your day.

00:23:42.819 --> 00:23:46.980
I'm going to watch Landon's in a production at

00:23:46.980 --> 00:23:50.339
school this afternoon. Let's go. Yeah, go check

00:23:50.339 --> 00:23:53.220
him out. Should be pretty funny. Pretty fun.

00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:58.160
Dude, your kid is so sick. He's so smart, dude.

00:23:58.579 --> 00:24:01.279
Holy shit, he could teach me some shit. Oh, yeah.

00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:07.819
He's super smart. Flat out. And then you've got

00:24:07.819 --> 00:24:18.559
Thea. The hammer. The hammer. It's funny, Landon,

00:24:18.579 --> 00:24:22.759
he gets so kind of overexcited about subjects.

00:24:23.059 --> 00:24:25.500
I look at him and I'm like, fuck, that was me.

00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:29.599
I'd go to school and I'd talk about, you know,

00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.380
movies I'd watched on fucking SBS, like fucking

00:24:32.380 --> 00:24:36.099
Godzilla. So you talk back then about movies

00:24:36.099 --> 00:24:37.819
you watch, but now you just don't bother watching

00:24:37.819 --> 00:24:40.619
them. I get it. I had more time then. I was fucking

00:24:40.619 --> 00:24:44.700
– I had nothing else on. Watching, you know,

00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:47.299
Godzilla or other kaiju movies when they weren't

00:24:47.299 --> 00:24:51.279
the rage. Watching fucking The Guyver because

00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.579
I rented it because – but nobody else had heard

00:24:53.579 --> 00:24:55.859
about it. Dude. Going to school, talking about

00:24:55.859 --> 00:24:58.279
these movies, and just no other kid that I knew

00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:02.180
was really kind of aware or interested. And I

00:25:02.180 --> 00:25:07.299
remember kind of feeling – you know, ridiculed

00:25:07.299 --> 00:25:10.259
because I'd, you know, fucking kids, man. Fuck

00:25:10.259 --> 00:25:12.859
kids is shit. I mean, I look at Landon and he

00:25:12.859 --> 00:25:16.160
gets overexcited about things. I'm like, where

00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:18.680
do you draw the line? Do I tell him that, you

00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:21.220
know, it's all right to rein that back to be

00:25:21.220 --> 00:25:24.680
excited about things because you got to, you

00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:26.380
know, you want to fit him with people? Yeah.

00:25:26.940 --> 00:25:30.039
Or do I let him be him? Like, I don't know what

00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:32.359
the fuck I can do with that. Dude, if he can

00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:36.509
be him with you. Let it go. Yeah. Let it go.

00:25:36.630 --> 00:25:39.410
If you show him how excited you get about his

00:25:39.410 --> 00:25:41.910
news, then he'll just hold it for you. He'll

00:25:41.910 --> 00:25:44.470
be like, oh, I see the way my dad reacts, so

00:25:44.470 --> 00:25:49.029
I'll just tell him. And then the kids at school,

00:25:49.049 --> 00:25:50.809
if they're giving him grief and shit, then he'll

00:25:50.809 --> 00:25:52.309
be like, oh, fuck you, I won't tell you shit.

00:25:53.049 --> 00:25:55.670
I'll get home and tell my dad. That's the thing.

00:25:55.750 --> 00:26:01.990
He's got this thing where I think he thinks that

00:26:01.990 --> 00:26:04.859
it's better to be. friends with everybody than

00:26:04.859 --> 00:26:08.680
it is to kind of get that connection with a small

00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:12.640
group. His people. So, yeah, it's funny. Yeah,

00:26:12.660 --> 00:26:17.960
I don't know. That's something with owning a

00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:19.880
business as well. Like you want to be friends

00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:22.440
with everybody. Yeah. And you want to make sure

00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:24.500
that, you know, they're all happy and everything's

00:26:24.500 --> 00:26:26.740
okay. At the end of the day, though, your sanity

00:26:26.740 --> 00:26:31.259
needs to come first. Yeah. Because, well, I'm

00:26:31.259 --> 00:26:36.420
perfect. Like at one point, man, we had 18 tattooers

00:26:36.420 --> 00:26:39.900
here. Twelve. And then like we had 18 different

00:26:39.900 --> 00:26:41.819
personalities all gelling together and it was

00:26:41.819 --> 00:26:46.980
a great time. And then through like economic

00:26:46.980 --> 00:26:50.480
shit and us being out here in the sticks, you

00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:52.500
know, everyone's moved into Newcastle. They've

00:26:52.500 --> 00:26:54.559
all done their own thing. They're all, you know,

00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:58.460
got their own path. And, dude, I love them and

00:26:58.460 --> 00:27:01.910
I miss them all the time. Yeah. Can't blame them.

00:27:02.069 --> 00:27:04.009
You can't blame them, though. You can't expect

00:27:04.009 --> 00:27:08.490
somebody to be in your circle 90 % of the time

00:27:08.490 --> 00:27:10.970
when they're their own people as well. That's

00:27:10.970 --> 00:27:15.509
right. And that's like I miss talking to them

00:27:15.509 --> 00:27:18.529
every single day, but the fact that they've gone

00:27:18.529 --> 00:27:20.230
out on their own. And there's some of them that

00:27:20.230 --> 00:27:22.910
came to us and that were working here that didn't

00:27:22.910 --> 00:27:27.910
really have their own bearings and didn't really

00:27:27.910 --> 00:27:32.220
have their own. their own voice as such. And

00:27:32.220 --> 00:27:34.339
then they found it and moved on. I'm like, fuck,

00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.500
you can't be mad at that. No. You can't be mad

00:27:37.500 --> 00:27:39.579
at that. You can't be mad at someone progressing

00:27:39.579 --> 00:27:43.859
beyond and growing beyond your world. Like, you've

00:27:43.859 --> 00:27:45.920
got to, you know, fucking pat them on the back

00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:47.940
and, you know, hit them on the ass and go, go

00:27:47.940 --> 00:27:52.599
get them, tiger. Fucking get it. Yeah. And, like,

00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.119
there's so many people out there that if they've

00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:58.519
got an apprentice in the tattoo industry. and

00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:00.680
that apprentice moves on, apparently they've

00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:04.440
got to be your enemy. No fucking way, dude. If,

00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:06.880
like, my apprentice Gunsy, she's just got her

00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.700
own little stew over at Maitland. Fuck, dude,

00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:13.920
I'm so proud of her. To come from, you know,

00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.039
to someone who used to doubt her own artistic

00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.000
abilities to now just, like, no, I am fucking

00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.960
good enough to do this shit. I can do it myself.

00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:24.680
You can't help but pat someone on the back and

00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:28.049
say fucking congratulations, dude. And then you've

00:28:28.049 --> 00:28:29.930
got other people that go and do a music festival

00:28:29.930 --> 00:28:32.230
after they've ripped off hundreds of people of

00:28:32.230 --> 00:28:36.250
thousands of dollars. And I'm like, what the

00:28:36.250 --> 00:28:38.410
fuck, dude? You should not be a tattoo artist.

00:28:38.529 --> 00:28:40.549
He is so bad. I'm not going to mention his name

00:28:40.549 --> 00:28:43.190
on here because he's a fucking dick anyway. But

00:28:43.190 --> 00:28:48.529
it's, yeah, there's some people that shouldn't

00:28:48.529 --> 00:28:53.890
do this shit. And then there's people that definitely

00:28:53.890 --> 00:28:58.250
should. That's one thing I like about the tattoo

00:28:58.250 --> 00:29:02.109
industry these days is it's that paradigm shift

00:29:02.109 --> 00:29:06.130
to it's more about the creativity than it was

00:29:06.130 --> 00:29:08.410
about its fucking roots. It was just pick and

00:29:08.410 --> 00:29:10.450
stick back in the day. There's something on the

00:29:10.450 --> 00:29:12.390
wall, great, I'll get it down, photocopy it and

00:29:12.390 --> 00:29:15.549
stencil it up, that's what you get. But now,

00:29:15.549 --> 00:29:20.150
dude, there's so much shit. Like that there,

00:29:20.250 --> 00:29:23.990
that was done by my friend Misty and she gets

00:29:23.990 --> 00:29:28.890
stoned. And does all these dots. Yeah. Dude,

00:29:28.930 --> 00:29:31.450
you should see the shit she's done. Yeah. It's

00:29:31.450 --> 00:29:34.089
fucking incredible. But that's her artistic outlet.

00:29:34.289 --> 00:29:38.490
Like she's got, if, you know, she has a bad day,

00:29:38.630 --> 00:29:42.150
she'll get stoned, sit down and do a dot. Yeah.

00:29:42.190 --> 00:29:45.329
But it's so cool that there's like a, when I

00:29:45.329 --> 00:29:51.690
say accessible, to an extent, tattooing is accessible

00:29:51.690 --> 00:29:55.910
as a. medium for creative people. Absolutely.

00:29:56.410 --> 00:29:59.750
Like there's not a lot of kind of creative outlets

00:29:59.750 --> 00:30:04.710
where you can get that instant kind of monetary

00:30:04.710 --> 00:30:07.809
fucking return. Where you see the creation and

00:30:07.809 --> 00:30:10.410
then you get, like if you do a painting, that

00:30:10.410 --> 00:30:12.049
painting could sit on the wall for fucking years

00:30:12.049 --> 00:30:14.430
before you see any sort of give back. A lot of

00:30:14.430 --> 00:30:17.910
artists will have to sit and wait and wait and

00:30:17.910 --> 00:30:21.599
wait until they make it. This is a creative outlet.

00:30:21.779 --> 00:30:23.799
Yeah, dude. And I can pay my bills with it. Yeah.

00:30:25.740 --> 00:30:33.180
I love that for me. Sometimes. Sometimes. But,

00:30:33.220 --> 00:30:35.599
yeah. But, yeah. That's all I've got time for

00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:39.619
today, buddy. Awesome. You fucking sign us off

00:30:39.619 --> 00:30:41.400
for a change. I'll get an urinate. I start us

00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:48.250
off every time. Oh, God. Thanks for joining us

00:30:48.250 --> 00:30:50.730
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