From the dungeons of Morningstar, I'm Clint and
I'm Stretch and this is Prevailing Strange. Welcome
to our ret and sundry portion of the show. Where
we talk shit and you can listen. We're not going
to guarantee that we're not drunk. It's not a
hentai. Wow, that's where you went? I was more
going with an animated show like Finding Nemo
that has an octopus in it or Aquaman. Did you
watch the video? Did you see the drumming? You're
a fucking dumb man. Yeah, I did. I did. But no,
that was stupid. That was a stupid inclusion.
You shouldn't have had that. I'm fully aware
that aliens come from underneath the water. That's
just a fact. Aliens aren't going to come from
space. They're already here. Mm -hmm. Right?
They're already here. Octopus is one of the most
foreign alien things you'll ever see in your
life. Agreed. Do you know how many brains they've
got? Four, don't they? More than one. Yeah. That's
it. Man, I love octopi. Yeah. They're fucking
gorgeous. But still, they're so alien, they can
get out of anything that's smaller than their
beak, bigger than their beak. I was watching
a documentary once and this guy said it and I
was like, oh, they're probably, you know, tracks.
The evolution of the octopus and how fucking
smart they are and the whole camouflage thing
and the fact that they're not social creatures
at all. They're very kind of secluded creatures
until it comes to breeding and whatnot. They
said that. Speaking of breeding, have you ever
seen a female octopus give birth? No, I'm not
sick like that. No? They starve themselves, dude.
They literally sacrifice themselves for their
children. Yeah, that's pretty well. But anyway.
Keep going. I was saying about how they were
saying that over all this time, this evolutionary
chain of the octopus and how good it is at camouflage
and being seclusive to the word. Reclusive. Reclusive.
There's a word that's similar. It starts with
S. I can't think of it right now. Anyway, the
fact that they've. All this energy over all this
time has gone into that. If they had been more
of a social creature, that the evolution and
the intelligence of them, they could have rivaled
humans is what he kind of said. Yeah, right.
It's a wild claim. Maybe true. I don't know.
But it's cool. That's how kind of smart they
are. Yeah. There's a bloke on YouTube, Michael
Rober. Everyone would have seen him. Anyway,
he. Just got an octopus out of the ocean and
then made this whole elaborate tank with all
these puzzles in it. This octopus went through
and solved every puzzle. He didn't teach it.
It was out of the ocean and it solved every puzzle.
And then he released it. Nuts, man. But, yeah,
I reckon, look, call me a kook all you want.
I'm all for the hollow earth theory. Yeah, I
mean, maybe. No, definitely. What is it? 87 %
of the earth's ocean is unmapped. Please. Some
weird shit down there. Some weird shit, dude.
A fucking anglerfish has a light bulb for a head.
There's some cool videos of the deep sea exploration
and some of the creatures they find down there.
It's fucking alien as fuck, man. So alien. And
that's what I'm saying. I'm saying. Cool. Aliens
are coming from under the water. The last thing,
I'm still finishing off the third book of Adrian
Tchaikovsky's Shards of Earth series. No, the
final architecture series. Sorry. Enjoying it.
Just didn't get around to finishing it this week.
Always. Nearly finished. When I say nearly, I'm
16 hours away from finishing the fourth book
of Dungeon Crawler Carl. Come on, mate. Keep
up. I need to get with it. Oh, dude, like that
story gets better. Does it really? Oh, yeah.
Like the entire thing, the entire thing, it just
keeps getting better and better. Yeah, right.
Okay. Because it was a very, for me, the start
was a very slow starter and it was something
that I didn't think I'd actually continue reading.
Oh, right. And we're talking about the first
book? The first book. Yeah, yeah. When I first
started listening, I'm like, oh, fuck. It's annoying.
And I'm like, ooh, hang on a second. And then
the second book fucking reeled me in. And now
I'm stuck. Yeah. So I've got to finish this before
I get back on Expeditionary Force. Right. Because
I can't have two books going on at the same time.
Yeah, that's fair. I'm a very simple person.
But yeah, so when I finish this and I move on
to Expedition Reinforced. That's another thing
that I'd really like to see. This would be a
good long -form TV show, Dungeon Crawler Car.
It'd be different. It'd be sick. It'd be something
that'd be picked up by a sci -fi channel on Foxtel.
Dude, I could even see Amazon. They go for this
weird shit. The problem with Amazon is, like
a lot of streaming services, is they have this
fucking weird idea that... If people don't finish
watching the show, that's when they cancel it.
So that's their kind of litmus test. Is that
what it's called? Yeah. Yeah, so it doesn't matter.
Like if you've got a show that has 100 ,000 people
watching it but 100 ,000 people finish it versus
something that starts off with 6 million people
watching it and finishes with 100 ,000 people
finishing it. So the same amount of people finishing
it. I'm feeling you, dog. It's the fact that.
Right. The retention rate. The overwhelming majority
does not finish it. Yeah. That's what Cannes
shows. Right. And that's why you get really great
shows that, you know, might be more cerebral
and kind of had a bit of punch to begin with
and then people kind of drop off because they're
like, eh. But, like, it could have been great
sci -fi. Like, there's some great sci -fi out
there that is really kind of cerebral and you're
like, this is fucking weird but I want to see
where it goes. And then you... don't get to see
where it goes because it gets cancelled because
not everybody's into that shit. I .e. the fact
that that's why we don't see much original programming
these days because they're scared. They're scared
that, okay, we're going to get 100 ,000 people
watching this show and it only goes for a season
because they're going, oh, fuck, only 100 ,000
people grew up on this. Only 100 ,000 people
are watching this. But if they kept it going
for longer term, much like Dungeon Crawler, Carl
with me. Give us a second season. People might
watch one or two episodes of their second season
and go, hang on a fucking minute. What happened?
Go through and re -watch that first season. So
then you've got 200 ,000 people feeling shit
in the first season. Much like Fly Fly. I know
I always compare it, but that's my bar of great
TV shows that only ran for a year. You've got
this original programming, but you sit and you
watch now how many people have watched it now.
as opposed to when it first came out. In 2001,
I think its highest viewership was like 3 million
people. But now you ask anybody, every single
person that you know on earth has heard of Firefly.
Yeah. Well, maybe not everybody, but a lot of
people, yeah. Yeah. How many times do you recommend
a show that went under the radar and people go
back and watch it? Well, hopefully I've inspired
you to watch two today, Peacemaker and Lucky
Number 11. You need to watch Lucky Number Slovene.
It only goes for two hours. Okay, fuck. It happens,
though. People go back and watch shit. So much.
Like, why don't they take into consideration
the fact that that shit's going to happen? Yeah.
Like, they can only punch out so much new shit
all the time. Why aren't they kind of reliant
on their back catalogue? Like, why not continue
to make something? Mate. Yes. If they need to.
dialed down on the fucking, the budget a little
bit. But like. Finish your stories. Yeah. Finish
your stories. I 100 % agree. If you've got, and
I think that's why everyone's always going to
remake, reboot, remake, reboot. Because there's
all these things that have already, oh, Spider
-Man movie's coming out. Okay, I'll watch it
because I love Spider -Man. Original program's
gone by the wayside because they're not able
to bring people in. But. Again, if you're pushing
this one season of TV, write that story so that
one episode, that one season can wrap up that
story because you don't know if you're going
to get a second season. For example, Hannibal,
which I'm already watching now, the first two
seasons, top tier TV. You get to that third and
fourth season, they're trash, dude. They lose
their way so much. Heroes. Yep. That first season
of Heroes was one of the best seasons of TV that's
ever been produced. Well, that was the writer's
strike. They should have put it on hiatus while
the writer's strike was on. That's what killed
it. I legit think that they just lost their way.
You get someone like Kurt Sutter who doesn't.
But that's a problem. They got a whole different
bunch of people in to write it during the writer's
strike. Yeah, a whole heap of scabs. Oh, fuck
them guys. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like
they should have, okay, we don't have our writer's
table at the moment. It has been there the entire
time. Put it on pause. I did not know that. Yeah,
that's what happened with a lot of TV during
that original writer's strike back in the early
2000s is we lost a lot of good TV because the
companies that ran them weren't happy. They wanted
to continue on instead of pausing production.
Couldn't go with the SAGs or the AFTRs and that,
so they had to get SCABs in. Yeah. Right. People
at home, SCABs are the people who aren't in a
union. Or are willing to work despite the fact
that the unions are out striking. Yeah. So, yeah,
when SAG and that try to strike and get better
rates of pay and stuff and better conditions
for their writers and producers, actors and stuff,
you get these people called SCABs that aren't
in a union. and they come through and they undercut
everybody, but they're not as good as. And they
punch out poorer fucking quality stuff. So Kurt
Sutter will only ever produce seven seasons of
TV. His story will always culminate in seven
seasons. I think it makes sense to kind of start
something with an end in mind. Exactly, an outline.
You need that outline. Which is, as much as I
like J .J. Abrams. It's his issue. He has great
concepts. Where the fuck did the polar bear come
from, Jeremy? Well, they explain that in the
end. Did they really? Yeah. Yeah, it was something.
Did they explain where they come from or what
they used them for? I don't know. I didn't finish
it. I don't think anyone did. A lot of people
did, and there's a bit of a cult following around
it, and they reckon it's the greatest thing that's
ever. No, he fucked up. He fucked up. He had.
Too good an idea and didn't know where it was
going. That first season of Lost was sensational.
Argue with me. I won't. It was good. Because
it's the truth. The first three were great. He
was bringing in all these ideas, the smoke, the
fucking people that were still there, the fucking
hole in the ground with the numbers that fucking
they had to keep punching in. And then he just
made shit up. Spoiler alert. The fucking people
that were always on the island. There was fucking
the light in the well and the fucking the mum
gave birth to the fucking two children and the
fucking one child killed the other and they put
them in the fucking well and he came back to
life. Man, it got fucking weird. What the fuck?
That's very Cain and Abel right there, isn't
it? Yeah. Yeah. I've read what happened in it.
I didn't watch it. I wasn't going to sit there
and watch it. I fucking read it though. There'll
be something on YouTube. That'll be like a two
-hour watch through where I'll show you. I might
have to watch that. Yeah. But this is the thing.
J .J. Abrams, an incredible writer. Concepts,
sensational. Dude, you tell me someone better.
What was it? He loves a box, by the way. Yeah.
Loves a mystery box. Yeah, dude. Always loves,
yeah. What's in the box? What's in the box? That
first season of Lost is some of the best TV ever.
And I don't know whether he just like, because
Omay with the big hair and the overweight fella
just didn't want to lose weight to show that
he was on a fucking abandoned island. He was
starving. How are we going to remedy this? They're
already dead. I don't know. I don't know. I wasn't
in the writer's room. But I think if you've got
a great, and this is what's annoying. We talk
about Ted Lasso and how it's perfect. It is perfect.
I don't give a fuck what anybody says. Ted Lasso
is perfect television. He had a three -season
arc and he wrapped it up perfect, dude. It had
the most beautiful, heartfelt, funny little bow.
I hope he doesn't fuck it up on the fourth. This
is what's worrying me. He's come back for a fourth
because of public outcry. Fans want more. Do
you give them what they want or do you say, no,
you've had what you need? If he's coming back.
It's got to be for the right idea. It has to
be. Manny has to sell me in the first two episodes
on this fucking fourth season because, yeah,
if he's just come back for the money, yeah, I
might just fucking not watch it, DNF, and fucking
walk away. So this next season that Jason Sudeikis
has written, now it's same writers, same cast.
But it's going to be a woman's team. Now, in
the end of season three, we did see that Rebecca
is starting the woman's team. It was mentioned,
yes. She split up the team, which is the Richmond
Greyhounds. She split it up and give everybody
that's a fan a part of the team. Perfect wrapper.
This one is going to be the Richmond Greyhounds
female team. So they start a female league. Whether
Ted Lasso comes back as that and Beard's still
coaching the men's team, we don't know. But I'm
excited for it because that Ted Lasso man made
me feel shit that I've never seen in TV, ever.
It hasn't. No. Ted Lasso is probably the most
perfect story ever written for telly. It is,
man. That's a fucking. Big call. No. It's good.
I don't think it was that good. It is. It is.
Can you tell me a show that made you feel, laugh,
scared, every emotion that you can feel from
three seasons of TV? I wasn't scared in Ted Leso.
What? I wasn't scared. I laughed. They got relegated.
I laughed and I nearly cried. It was good. What
about when Beard was getting jumped in the alleyway?
You didn't think he was going to die? No. No,
I wasn't concerned. I was scared she was. No,
Beard, no. No, definitely it was good. Did you
ever watch Sex Education? No. I had sex in it.
I was going to say something, but my wife would
probably kick my ass. She doesn't watch it, does
she? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. That
clip would get clipped. It wouldn't clip it.
And the chat would send it along. Yeah, sex education.
Fucking funny. Had some feels. Had some tits
in it. It was good. I mean. Okay. Yeah. Some
of the best TV show has tits in it. Do you realise
your mother and father are watching this? Fine.
He probably agrees with me. Petey. Petey the
Lifebringer. What a lord. I mean, think of Game
of Thrones, Shameless, Sex Education. That's
three that I can think of off the top of my head
that are great shows. Never Seen Shameless. Game
of Thrones was trash. In the end, yeah. You've
never seen Shameless? No. Pretty good. Pretty
good. Why? Funny. A lot like Ted Lasso. Has a
lot of drama. It's funny. Tits in it. There's
no tits in Ted Lasso. It's a classic film. Well,
that's probably why it's better. That's a shit
thing to say, by the way. What? It has to have
tits to be better. It doesn't need to be better.
Not at all. I do enjoy that. Right. In a show.
But, yeah, getting back onto the fact that Ted
Lasso is good, probably not the greatest TV in
the world, but it's good. Okay. Can you name
a TV show that you rate higher than Ted Lasso?
Sense8. That's a load of bullshit and you know
it. You never watched it. I've heard things.
I've watched trailers. Did it lose its way after
the first season? No. Second season. No. Didn't
lose his way. They lost an actor. They changed
him, but they swapped him out. They did a lot.
Yeah. And they wrapped it up with a movie. I
thought it was some of the best TV I've ever
seen. Really? Yeah. Okay. It was British, wasn't
it? No. It's made by the Wachowskis. It's American.
From the creators of The Matrix. Okay. I'm going
to have to give that a watch. Yeah. I'm going
to have to give that a watch. And it's got tits
in it. For fuck's sake. Look, I look in the mirror
and it's got tits in it. It doesn't inspire.
It just doesn't. It's like, why are your nipples
looking at you like that, Clint? Do you know
what I forgot to tell you that I watched? What
did you forget? I watched Prey. Tell me all about
it, Jeremy. Don't grip the microphone. You can
hear it. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yes! I knew
you would. I knew you would. It is a good movie.
Such a good movie, dude. The best Predator movie
I've ever seen. Hands down. Hands down. The only
bugbear I have. This is coming from a movie that
I liked and enjoyed. Okay. Is the thing that
I remember a few weeks ago we talked about Aliens
and Predator and you said that the aliens are
just Mindless fucking whatever. Right. Okay.
The thing about – fuck, I keep forgetting to
look up the name of the race of predators. Predators
for all intensive purposes. It starts with a
Y. I know that. Watcher. Watcher. W -A -U -T
-J -A. Okay. Watcher. Watcher. So the thing that
kind of is a bit muddy for me is the fact that
they're coming – To earth to hunt the best. Yeah.
In Prey, you see him, he's a little bit more
stripped down than - Very, very primitive. Primitive.
Yeah, like he's going out there with less armor
on or something like that. The fact that there's
a scene where he shoots the coyote, grabs the
skull, and you see him melt it down. It's a pretty
cool moment. You see how they do that to preserve
the skull. Why did he need to do that? He didn't
fight the coyote? Didn't hunt the coyote? He
just shot it from a distance? Again, I don't
know. Yeah. Like if he's, you know, if they said
they were just out, like I don't know the law,
are they just out to collect skulls of predators?
But again, I don't think it's the skulls that
he's collecting. I think it's the spines because
it's, There was something in the lore about the
spines and the stuff that they're getting from
the bone marrow of the spine. I can't remember
where I read that. There'll be research for this
week and we can talk about it next week. Yeah,
we can talk about that. But it might have been
a predator that he'd never come across before.
So he's like, bang, okay. And then got that for
the collection. And got that for the collection.
Because it's kind of like insinuated that they're
going up against whatever's the best kind of
predator and that's the skull they collect. Yeah.
Killed a fuck ton of humans. Yep. But yeah, like
primitive humans basically with fucking flint
pistols. Yeah, even the French have got single
shot flint pistols. Yep. The fact that he uses
the fucking camo. Okay. The invisibility. Yep.
Kind of get it when he's fighting Arnie, you
know, he's in a war zone. Yeah. That's one of
the things I don't essentially fucking – I don't
hate it, but I'm like, why? Do you think if they
left out the active camouflage that you would
have run into an issue with it, that they didn't
introduce the active camera? I would have preferred
it if he was kind of getting down and dirty,
wearing like mud from the area to kind of – But
see, this is where we're going to run into it
with Trachtenberg Universe, which he's doing
now, when we've got killer of killers coming
out and they're in the ancient samurai days and
they're in the Viking days, he's got active chemo.
Yeah. So I think that's going to, it'll explain
more by watching them movies. I hope we get something.
Yes. Because that's the thing, like something
about the lore of it that doesn't make sense
to me. Right. If they're kind of matching their
technology to their prey. Right. It would make
more sense to me. But, yeah, there's that, the
active camo. I bet that's about the alien. And
the fucking hatchet with the leather strapped
to it. Right. You should never catch that. Like,
that was a bit much, you know? In prey. Right.
It was cool. It was cool. But it kind of took
me out for a second there. Right, okay. Yeah,
I don't know. It's just the way she's throwing
it, ripping it back and catching it. It's not
Mjolnir. No. That was probably one of the only
things that I ran into was that. I would have
preferred it if she yanked it and pulled it back.
Gotcha. Leather straps aren't elastic. Yeah.
I got you. Yeah. There was just kind of the weaker
parts of the movie. Yep. As a whole, I enjoyed
it. It was good. I liked it. Yeah. I agree with
you when you said best of the Predator franchise.
Jesus Christ, I am quite drunk. I'm slurring
my words. I agree with you with that. You could
have had that again. When we talk about movies
that have been remade, rebooted and stuff and
you could have called it someone else and it
would have been just a good movie. The fact that
they've called this Prey, it's not Predator,
Prey. It's just Prey. You could have gone into
that with fresh eyes, dude, not having to watch
anything else in the world of the Predator franchise
and you would have been okay. You would not have
had to have had anything explained to you. You
don't have to have any prior knowledge of the
Predator universe. It was just ears. Yep. And
I think it killed it. Yeah, it was good. I would
like to know if that root or whatever, the healing
medicine, whether that's legit or not. Because
if that's not legit and, you know, it just happens
to be they can lower their body temperature by
this magical root that didn't really exist, that's
a little cheap as well? Well. I would have liked
if she'd covered herself in mud and called back
to the original Predator. Well, again, yeah,
I agree with you on that. And we see Adrian Brody
do that in the Predators. Yeah. I would have
liked to have seen something like that. However,
I'm going to call them Indians because. Yeah.
Indigenous people. Yeah. But not just that. Like,
did you know how they got their name? Indians.
I actually watched a stand -up comedian explain
this, and it was like Indians, he called them
Indians because Indios means people of God, and
they were the most pure people that he'd come
across, and he called them Indios, Indian, Indios,
all that sort of stuff. So that's how they come
about. But the fact that they knew shit that
we don't, dude, fucking peyote. Have you ever
seen them when they do their peyote ceremonies?
Incredible. I do magic mushies. And to me, man,
magic mushies are transcendent. Every single
person on this earth should do magic mushrooms.
You haven't done them ever. I do them once a
month at least. For them to have been doing peyote
since the dawn of time and for them to be doing
all that natural medicines, dude, we don't know
the fucking slightest thing what they know. There's
definitely something to it. Yeah. So I hope if
there is a plant or there is a root or if there's
a medicine that they knew about that lowered
their body temperature, fucking sweet. Yeah.
I sincerely hope. Yeah. But, yeah. I love this
fact that they bring in real world shit into
something that's so fantastical and so out of
there that they're introducing aliens that hunt.
Yeah. But, yeah. I love Prey, man. I thought
it was so good. And it really does get me amped
for Killer of Killers. Yeah, I'm definitely looking
forward to it more after having watched it. I
really thought you would have loved that. I really
did. It's not, you know, they don't ham it up
with a comedy. There's no big muscle bicep moments,
nothing like that. But it's still just Predator,
and it's so good. So well written, so well acted.
I think it's just a great production. It would
have been pretty shit -ass if he'd rocked up
in the full fucking armour. Agreed. Agreed. I
love that it was a bone mask, dude. Where did
that bone mask come from? That'd be a nice little
fucking comic background, how he got that fucking
skull. Yeah. Absolutely, 100 % agree. And I'm
glad you finally watched it because it is good.
Yeah. All right, thank you very much for joining
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