WEBVTT 00:00:01.290 --> 00:00:03.970 From the dungeons of Morningstar, I'm Clint and 00:00:03.970 --> 00:00:19.769 I'm Stretch and this is Prevailing Strange. Welcome 00:00:19.769 --> 00:00:23.710 to our ret and sundry portion of the show. Where 00:00:23.710 --> 00:00:27.910 we talk shit and you can listen. We're not going 00:00:27.910 --> 00:00:32.450 to guarantee that we're not drunk. It's not a 00:00:32.450 --> 00:00:35.890 hentai. Wow, that's where you went? I was more 00:00:35.890 --> 00:00:37.950 going with an animated show like Finding Nemo 00:00:37.950 --> 00:00:41.329 that has an octopus in it or Aquaman. Did you 00:00:41.329 --> 00:00:44.189 watch the video? Did you see the drumming? You're 00:00:44.189 --> 00:00:48.329 a fucking dumb man. Yeah, I did. I did. But no, 00:00:48.390 --> 00:00:50.770 that was stupid. That was a stupid inclusion. 00:00:50.909 --> 00:00:55.390 You shouldn't have had that. I'm fully aware 00:00:55.390 --> 00:00:59.549 that aliens come from underneath the water. That's 00:00:59.549 --> 00:01:02.679 just a fact. Aliens aren't going to come from 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:06.099 space. They're already here. Mm -hmm. Right? 00:01:06.180 --> 00:01:07.959 They're already here. Octopus is one of the most 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:09.579 foreign alien things you'll ever see in your 00:01:09.579 --> 00:01:12.000 life. Agreed. Do you know how many brains they've 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:16.900 got? Four, don't they? More than one. Yeah. That's 00:01:16.900 --> 00:01:19.799 it. Man, I love octopi. Yeah. They're fucking 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:24.640 gorgeous. But still, they're so alien, they can 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:26.739 get out of anything that's smaller than their 00:01:26.739 --> 00:01:28.590 beak, bigger than their beak. I was watching 00:01:28.590 --> 00:01:30.730 a documentary once and this guy said it and I 00:01:30.730 --> 00:01:32.629 was like, oh, they're probably, you know, tracks. 00:01:33.469 --> 00:01:36.870 The evolution of the octopus and how fucking 00:01:36.870 --> 00:01:39.090 smart they are and the whole camouflage thing 00:01:39.090 --> 00:01:41.909 and the fact that they're not social creatures 00:01:41.909 --> 00:01:44.349 at all. They're very kind of secluded creatures 00:01:44.349 --> 00:01:47.170 until it comes to breeding and whatnot. They 00:01:47.170 --> 00:01:50.230 said that. Speaking of breeding, have you ever 00:01:50.230 --> 00:01:52.870 seen a female octopus give birth? No, I'm not 00:01:52.870 --> 00:01:56.000 sick like that. No? They starve themselves, dude. 00:01:56.219 --> 00:01:58.680 They literally sacrifice themselves for their 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:01.319 children. Yeah, that's pretty well. But anyway. 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:06.280 Keep going. I was saying about how they were 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:08.599 saying that over all this time, this evolutionary 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:12.860 chain of the octopus and how good it is at camouflage 00:02:12.860 --> 00:02:18.120 and being seclusive to the word. Reclusive. Reclusive. 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:21.120 There's a word that's similar. It starts with 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:22.900 S. I can't think of it right now. Anyway, the 00:02:22.900 --> 00:02:25.729 fact that they've. All this energy over all this 00:02:25.729 --> 00:02:28.229 time has gone into that. If they had been more 00:02:28.229 --> 00:02:31.849 of a social creature, that the evolution and 00:02:31.849 --> 00:02:34.669 the intelligence of them, they could have rivaled 00:02:34.669 --> 00:02:37.469 humans is what he kind of said. Yeah, right. 00:02:37.689 --> 00:02:40.430 It's a wild claim. Maybe true. I don't know. 00:02:40.490 --> 00:02:44.490 But it's cool. That's how kind of smart they 00:02:44.490 --> 00:02:48.590 are. Yeah. There's a bloke on YouTube, Michael 00:02:48.590 --> 00:02:52.150 Rober. Everyone would have seen him. Anyway, 00:02:52.310 --> 00:02:57.860 he. Just got an octopus out of the ocean and 00:02:57.860 --> 00:03:03.860 then made this whole elaborate tank with all 00:03:03.860 --> 00:03:06.680 these puzzles in it. This octopus went through 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:10.620 and solved every puzzle. He didn't teach it. 00:03:10.659 --> 00:03:13.520 It was out of the ocean and it solved every puzzle. 00:03:14.020 --> 00:03:19.819 And then he released it. Nuts, man. But, yeah, 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:23.479 I reckon, look, call me a kook all you want. 00:03:24.180 --> 00:03:27.699 I'm all for the hollow earth theory. Yeah, I 00:03:27.699 --> 00:03:35.219 mean, maybe. No, definitely. What is it? 87 % 00:03:35.219 --> 00:03:40.199 of the earth's ocean is unmapped. Please. Some 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:42.979 weird shit down there. Some weird shit, dude. 00:03:43.099 --> 00:03:46.139 A fucking anglerfish has a light bulb for a head. 00:03:46.889 --> 00:03:50.090 There's some cool videos of the deep sea exploration 00:03:50.090 --> 00:03:51.590 and some of the creatures they find down there. 00:03:51.650 --> 00:03:54.789 It's fucking alien as fuck, man. So alien. And 00:03:54.789 --> 00:03:57.469 that's what I'm saying. I'm saying. Cool. Aliens 00:03:57.469 --> 00:04:00.469 are coming from under the water. The last thing, 00:04:00.509 --> 00:04:04.430 I'm still finishing off the third book of Adrian 00:04:04.430 --> 00:04:07.289 Tchaikovsky's Shards of Earth series. No, the 00:04:07.289 --> 00:04:11.330 final architecture series. Sorry. Enjoying it. 00:04:11.389 --> 00:04:13.330 Just didn't get around to finishing it this week. 00:04:13.969 --> 00:04:19.180 Always. Nearly finished. When I say nearly, I'm 00:04:19.180 --> 00:04:21.759 16 hours away from finishing the fourth book 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:25.740 of Dungeon Crawler Carl. Come on, mate. Keep 00:04:25.740 --> 00:04:29.339 up. I need to get with it. Oh, dude, like that 00:04:29.339 --> 00:04:33.560 story gets better. Does it really? Oh, yeah. 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.920 Like the entire thing, the entire thing, it just 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:38.319 keeps getting better and better. Yeah, right. 00:04:38.420 --> 00:04:41.420 Okay. Because it was a very, for me, the start 00:04:41.420 --> 00:04:43.399 was a very slow starter and it was something 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:45.399 that I didn't think I'd actually continue reading. 00:04:45.660 --> 00:04:47.480 Oh, right. And we're talking about the first 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.180 book? The first book. Yeah, yeah. When I first 00:04:50.180 --> 00:04:54.199 started listening, I'm like, oh, fuck. It's annoying. 00:04:55.180 --> 00:04:57.620 And I'm like, ooh, hang on a second. And then 00:04:57.620 --> 00:04:59.639 the second book fucking reeled me in. And now 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.139 I'm stuck. Yeah. So I've got to finish this before 00:05:02.139 --> 00:05:05.459 I get back on Expeditionary Force. Right. Because 00:05:05.459 --> 00:05:08.199 I can't have two books going on at the same time. 00:05:08.339 --> 00:05:10.420 Yeah, that's fair. I'm a very simple person. 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.839 But yeah, so when I finish this and I move on 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:16.980 to Expedition Reinforced. That's another thing 00:05:16.980 --> 00:05:19.000 that I'd really like to see. This would be a 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:22.019 good long -form TV show, Dungeon Crawler Car. 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:24.860 It'd be different. It'd be sick. It'd be something 00:05:24.860 --> 00:05:27.480 that'd be picked up by a sci -fi channel on Foxtel. 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:32.300 Dude, I could even see Amazon. They go for this 00:05:32.300 --> 00:05:35.180 weird shit. The problem with Amazon is, like 00:05:35.180 --> 00:05:38.160 a lot of streaming services, is they have this 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:42.600 fucking weird idea that... If people don't finish 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:44.699 watching the show, that's when they cancel it. 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:48.100 So that's their kind of litmus test. Is that 00:05:48.100 --> 00:05:50.339 what it's called? Yeah. Yeah, so it doesn't matter. 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:52.819 Like if you've got a show that has 100 ,000 people 00:05:52.819 --> 00:05:56.300 watching it but 100 ,000 people finish it versus 00:05:56.300 --> 00:05:58.279 something that starts off with 6 million people 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.240 watching it and finishes with 100 ,000 people 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:03.540 finishing it. So the same amount of people finishing 00:06:03.540 --> 00:06:06.180 it. I'm feeling you, dog. It's the fact that. 00:06:06.259 --> 00:06:09.879 Right. The retention rate. The overwhelming majority 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.920 does not finish it. Yeah. That's what Cannes 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:16.100 shows. Right. And that's why you get really great 00:06:16.100 --> 00:06:18.959 shows that, you know, might be more cerebral 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:23.600 and kind of had a bit of punch to begin with 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:25.579 and then people kind of drop off because they're 00:06:25.579 --> 00:06:28.060 like, eh. But, like, it could have been great 00:06:28.060 --> 00:06:30.160 sci -fi. Like, there's some great sci -fi out 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.339 there that is really kind of cerebral and you're 00:06:32.339 --> 00:06:34.360 like, this is fucking weird but I want to see 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:37.279 where it goes. And then you... don't get to see 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:38.959 where it goes because it gets cancelled because 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:43.160 not everybody's into that shit. I .e. the fact 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:45.379 that that's why we don't see much original programming 00:06:45.379 --> 00:06:48.439 these days because they're scared. They're scared 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.459 that, okay, we're going to get 100 ,000 people 00:06:50.459 --> 00:06:54.139 watching this show and it only goes for a season 00:06:54.139 --> 00:06:56.060 because they're going, oh, fuck, only 100 ,000 00:06:56.060 --> 00:06:58.379 people grew up on this. Only 100 ,000 people 00:06:58.379 --> 00:07:00.459 are watching this. But if they kept it going 00:07:00.459 --> 00:07:03.540 for longer term, much like Dungeon Crawler, Carl 00:07:03.540 --> 00:07:06.800 with me. Give us a second season. People might 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:08.720 watch one or two episodes of their second season 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:10.339 and go, hang on a fucking minute. What happened? 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:13.439 Go through and re -watch that first season. So 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:15.339 then you've got 200 ,000 people feeling shit 00:07:15.339 --> 00:07:19.540 in the first season. Much like Fly Fly. I know 00:07:19.540 --> 00:07:24.199 I always compare it, but that's my bar of great 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:28.860 TV shows that only ran for a year. You've got 00:07:28.860 --> 00:07:31.480 this original programming, but you sit and you 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:33.779 watch now how many people have watched it now. 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:37.360 as opposed to when it first came out. In 2001, 00:07:37.540 --> 00:07:41.319 I think its highest viewership was like 3 million 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:44.980 people. But now you ask anybody, every single 00:07:44.980 --> 00:07:47.500 person that you know on earth has heard of Firefly. 00:07:47.699 --> 00:07:49.879 Yeah. Well, maybe not everybody, but a lot of 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:53.180 people, yeah. Yeah. How many times do you recommend 00:07:53.180 --> 00:07:55.600 a show that went under the radar and people go 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:58.199 back and watch it? Well, hopefully I've inspired 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.000 you to watch two today, Peacemaker and Lucky 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.759 Number 11. You need to watch Lucky Number Slovene. 00:08:03.860 --> 00:08:06.319 It only goes for two hours. Okay, fuck. It happens, 00:08:06.459 --> 00:08:08.199 though. People go back and watch shit. So much. 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:11.500 Like, why don't they take into consideration 00:08:11.500 --> 00:08:13.980 the fact that that shit's going to happen? Yeah. 00:08:13.980 --> 00:08:19.379 Like, they can only punch out so much new shit 00:08:19.379 --> 00:08:24.259 all the time. Why aren't they kind of reliant 00:08:24.259 --> 00:08:27.680 on their back catalogue? Like, why not continue 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.740 to make something? Mate. Yes. If they need to. 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:34.620 dialed down on the fucking, the budget a little 00:08:34.620 --> 00:08:38.899 bit. But like. Finish your stories. Yeah. Finish 00:08:38.899 --> 00:08:42.960 your stories. I 100 % agree. If you've got, and 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:44.519 I think that's why everyone's always going to 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:47.059 remake, reboot, remake, reboot. Because there's 00:08:47.059 --> 00:08:49.279 all these things that have already, oh, Spider 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:51.120 -Man movie's coming out. Okay, I'll watch it 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.860 because I love Spider -Man. Original program's 00:08:53.860 --> 00:08:55.799 gone by the wayside because they're not able 00:08:55.799 --> 00:09:06.019 to bring people in. But. Again, if you're pushing 00:09:06.019 --> 00:09:11.100 this one season of TV, write that story so that 00:09:11.100 --> 00:09:13.779 one episode, that one season can wrap up that 00:09:13.779 --> 00:09:16.720 story because you don't know if you're going 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:21.159 to get a second season. For example, Hannibal, 00:09:21.299 --> 00:09:23.399 which I'm already watching now, the first two 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:27.700 seasons, top tier TV. You get to that third and 00:09:27.700 --> 00:09:30.710 fourth season, they're trash, dude. They lose 00:09:30.710 --> 00:09:35.529 their way so much. Heroes. Yep. That first season 00:09:35.529 --> 00:09:38.389 of Heroes was one of the best seasons of TV that's 00:09:38.389 --> 00:09:40.450 ever been produced. Well, that was the writer's 00:09:40.450 --> 00:09:42.269 strike. They should have put it on hiatus while 00:09:42.269 --> 00:09:44.590 the writer's strike was on. That's what killed 00:09:44.590 --> 00:09:48.009 it. I legit think that they just lost their way. 00:09:48.429 --> 00:09:51.549 You get someone like Kurt Sutter who doesn't. 00:09:52.009 --> 00:09:54.730 But that's a problem. They got a whole different 00:09:54.730 --> 00:09:57.789 bunch of people in to write it during the writer's 00:09:57.789 --> 00:10:00.379 strike. Yeah, a whole heap of scabs. Oh, fuck 00:10:00.379 --> 00:10:02.279 them guys. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:06.220 they should have, okay, we don't have our writer's 00:10:06.220 --> 00:10:08.340 table at the moment. It has been there the entire 00:10:08.340 --> 00:10:11.320 time. Put it on pause. I did not know that. Yeah, 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:14.200 that's what happened with a lot of TV during 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:16.700 that original writer's strike back in the early 00:10:16.700 --> 00:10:20.659 2000s is we lost a lot of good TV because the 00:10:20.659 --> 00:10:24.500 companies that ran them weren't happy. They wanted 00:10:24.500 --> 00:10:26.940 to continue on instead of pausing production. 00:10:28.269 --> 00:10:30.970 Couldn't go with the SAGs or the AFTRs and that, 00:10:31.029 --> 00:10:34.190 so they had to get SCABs in. Yeah. Right. People 00:10:34.190 --> 00:10:36.990 at home, SCABs are the people who aren't in a 00:10:36.990 --> 00:10:41.970 union. Or are willing to work despite the fact 00:10:41.970 --> 00:10:45.769 that the unions are out striking. Yeah. So, yeah, 00:10:45.889 --> 00:10:48.289 when SAG and that try to strike and get better 00:10:48.289 --> 00:10:50.269 rates of pay and stuff and better conditions 00:10:50.269 --> 00:10:52.590 for their writers and producers, actors and stuff, 00:10:52.769 --> 00:10:54.909 you get these people called SCABs that aren't 00:10:54.909 --> 00:10:56.759 in a union. and they come through and they undercut 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:58.679 everybody, but they're not as good as. And they 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:03.919 punch out poorer fucking quality stuff. So Kurt 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:07.120 Sutter will only ever produce seven seasons of 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:10.759 TV. His story will always culminate in seven 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:14.019 seasons. I think it makes sense to kind of start 00:11:14.019 --> 00:11:17.759 something with an end in mind. Exactly, an outline. 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:21.919 You need that outline. Which is, as much as I 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:27.139 like J .J. Abrams. It's his issue. He has great 00:11:27.139 --> 00:11:30.720 concepts. Where the fuck did the polar bear come 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.320 from, Jeremy? Well, they explain that in the 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:36.820 end. Did they really? Yeah. Yeah, it was something. 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:38.779 Did they explain where they come from or what 00:11:38.779 --> 00:11:40.980 they used them for? I don't know. I didn't finish 00:11:40.980 --> 00:11:45.299 it. I don't think anyone did. A lot of people 00:11:45.299 --> 00:11:48.179 did, and there's a bit of a cult following around 00:11:48.179 --> 00:11:49.899 it, and they reckon it's the greatest thing that's 00:11:49.899 --> 00:11:53.039 ever. No, he fucked up. He fucked up. He had. 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:55.240 Too good an idea and didn't know where it was 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:57.399 going. That first season of Lost was sensational. 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.940 Argue with me. I won't. It was good. Because 00:12:01.940 --> 00:12:06.519 it's the truth. The first three were great. He 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:09.960 was bringing in all these ideas, the smoke, the 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.440 fucking people that were still there, the fucking 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:15.299 hole in the ground with the numbers that fucking 00:12:15.299 --> 00:12:19.039 they had to keep punching in. And then he just 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:24.309 made shit up. Spoiler alert. The fucking people 00:12:24.309 --> 00:12:26.389 that were always on the island. There was fucking 00:12:26.389 --> 00:12:29.230 the light in the well and the fucking the mum 00:12:29.230 --> 00:12:31.570 gave birth to the fucking two children and the 00:12:31.570 --> 00:12:34.110 fucking one child killed the other and they put 00:12:34.110 --> 00:12:35.809 them in the fucking well and he came back to 00:12:35.809 --> 00:12:38.710 life. Man, it got fucking weird. What the fuck? 00:12:38.769 --> 00:12:40.750 That's very Cain and Abel right there, isn't 00:12:40.750 --> 00:12:43.629 it? Yeah. Yeah. I've read what happened in it. 00:12:43.690 --> 00:12:45.009 I didn't watch it. I wasn't going to sit there 00:12:45.009 --> 00:12:46.870 and watch it. I fucking read it though. There'll 00:12:46.870 --> 00:12:49.860 be something on YouTube. That'll be like a two 00:12:49.860 --> 00:12:52.220 -hour watch through where I'll show you. I might 00:12:52.220 --> 00:12:55.840 have to watch that. Yeah. But this is the thing. 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:59.519 J .J. Abrams, an incredible writer. Concepts, 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:01.440 sensational. Dude, you tell me someone better. 00:13:02.580 --> 00:13:06.720 What was it? He loves a box, by the way. Yeah. 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.399 Loves a mystery box. Yeah, dude. Always loves, 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.720 yeah. What's in the box? What's in the box? That 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:17.480 first season of Lost is some of the best TV ever. 00:13:18.830 --> 00:13:21.110 And I don't know whether he just like, because 00:13:21.110 --> 00:13:23.490 Omay with the big hair and the overweight fella 00:13:23.490 --> 00:13:25.250 just didn't want to lose weight to show that 00:13:25.250 --> 00:13:26.990 he was on a fucking abandoned island. He was 00:13:26.990 --> 00:13:30.629 starving. How are we going to remedy this? They're 00:13:30.629 --> 00:13:34.669 already dead. I don't know. I don't know. I wasn't 00:13:34.669 --> 00:13:40.129 in the writer's room. But I think if you've got 00:13:40.129 --> 00:13:42.809 a great, and this is what's annoying. We talk 00:13:42.809 --> 00:13:47.809 about Ted Lasso and how it's perfect. It is perfect. 00:13:48.350 --> 00:13:50.909 I don't give a fuck what anybody says. Ted Lasso 00:13:50.909 --> 00:13:53.450 is perfect television. He had a three -season 00:13:53.450 --> 00:13:56.470 arc and he wrapped it up perfect, dude. It had 00:13:56.470 --> 00:13:59.950 the most beautiful, heartfelt, funny little bow. 00:14:00.049 --> 00:14:01.570 I hope he doesn't fuck it up on the fourth. This 00:14:01.570 --> 00:14:04.850 is what's worrying me. He's come back for a fourth 00:14:04.850 --> 00:14:11.110 because of public outcry. Fans want more. Do 00:14:11.110 --> 00:14:13.970 you give them what they want or do you say, no, 00:14:14.190 --> 00:14:17.210 you've had what you need? If he's coming back. 00:14:17.500 --> 00:14:20.220 It's got to be for the right idea. It has to 00:14:20.220 --> 00:14:23.179 be. Manny has to sell me in the first two episodes 00:14:23.179 --> 00:14:27.279 on this fucking fourth season because, yeah, 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:31.120 if he's just come back for the money, yeah, I 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:34.720 might just fucking not watch it, DNF, and fucking 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:40.100 walk away. So this next season that Jason Sudeikis 00:14:40.100 --> 00:14:44.200 has written, now it's same writers, same cast. 00:14:45.129 --> 00:14:47.830 But it's going to be a woman's team. Now, in 00:14:47.830 --> 00:14:52.649 the end of season three, we did see that Rebecca 00:14:52.649 --> 00:14:56.070 is starting the woman's team. It was mentioned, 00:14:56.210 --> 00:14:59.629 yes. She split up the team, which is the Richmond 00:14:59.629 --> 00:15:02.809 Greyhounds. She split it up and give everybody 00:15:02.809 --> 00:15:07.269 that's a fan a part of the team. Perfect wrapper. 00:15:09.250 --> 00:15:12.110 This one is going to be the Richmond Greyhounds 00:15:12.110 --> 00:15:16.080 female team. So they start a female league. Whether 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:20.299 Ted Lasso comes back as that and Beard's still 00:15:20.299 --> 00:15:24.419 coaching the men's team, we don't know. But I'm 00:15:24.419 --> 00:15:28.620 excited for it because that Ted Lasso man made 00:15:28.620 --> 00:15:31.240 me feel shit that I've never seen in TV, ever. 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:37.419 It hasn't. No. Ted Lasso is probably the most 00:15:37.419 --> 00:15:42.100 perfect story ever written for telly. It is, 00:15:42.100 --> 00:15:45.519 man. That's a fucking. Big call. No. It's good. 00:15:45.980 --> 00:15:50.179 I don't think it was that good. It is. It is. 00:15:50.460 --> 00:15:53.500 Can you tell me a show that made you feel, laugh, 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:58.059 scared, every emotion that you can feel from 00:15:58.059 --> 00:16:01.539 three seasons of TV? I wasn't scared in Ted Leso. 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:10.120 What? I wasn't scared. I laughed. They got relegated. 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:13.480 I laughed and I nearly cried. It was good. What 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:15.600 about when Beard was getting jumped in the alleyway? 00:16:15.659 --> 00:16:19.580 You didn't think he was going to die? No. No, 00:16:20.539 --> 00:16:23.259 I wasn't concerned. I was scared she was. No, 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:27.919 Beard, no. No, definitely it was good. Did you 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:31.139 ever watch Sex Education? No. I had sex in it. 00:16:35.149 --> 00:16:37.190 I was going to say something, but my wife would 00:16:37.190 --> 00:16:38.870 probably kick my ass. She doesn't watch it, does 00:16:38.870 --> 00:16:40.830 she? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. That 00:16:40.830 --> 00:16:43.830 clip would get clipped. It wouldn't clip it. 00:16:43.830 --> 00:16:47.370 And the chat would send it along. Yeah, sex education. 00:16:48.110 --> 00:16:52.549 Fucking funny. Had some feels. Had some tits 00:16:52.549 --> 00:16:59.570 in it. It was good. I mean. Okay. Yeah. Some 00:16:59.570 --> 00:17:01.629 of the best TV show has tits in it. Do you realise 00:17:01.629 --> 00:17:03.769 your mother and father are watching this? Fine. 00:17:03.850 --> 00:17:06.970 He probably agrees with me. Petey. Petey the 00:17:06.970 --> 00:17:10.470 Lifebringer. What a lord. I mean, think of Game 00:17:10.470 --> 00:17:14.470 of Thrones, Shameless, Sex Education. That's 00:17:14.470 --> 00:17:16.250 three that I can think of off the top of my head 00:17:16.250 --> 00:17:19.089 that are great shows. Never Seen Shameless. Game 00:17:19.089 --> 00:17:23.650 of Thrones was trash. In the end, yeah. You've 00:17:23.650 --> 00:17:26.980 never seen Shameless? No. Pretty good. Pretty 00:17:26.980 --> 00:17:31.579 good. Why? Funny. A lot like Ted Lasso. Has a 00:17:31.579 --> 00:17:37.660 lot of drama. It's funny. Tits in it. There's 00:17:37.660 --> 00:17:40.480 no tits in Ted Lasso. It's a classic film. Well, 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:46.519 that's probably why it's better. That's a shit 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:49.299 thing to say, by the way. What? It has to have 00:17:49.299 --> 00:17:51.559 tits to be better. It doesn't need to be better. 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:56.440 Not at all. I do enjoy that. Right. In a show. 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:02.619 But, yeah, getting back onto the fact that Ted 00:18:02.619 --> 00:18:05.079 Lasso is good, probably not the greatest TV in 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:09.980 the world, but it's good. Okay. Can you name 00:18:09.980 --> 00:18:12.259 a TV show that you rate higher than Ted Lasso? 00:18:12.940 --> 00:18:16.519 Sense8. That's a load of bullshit and you know 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:18.819 it. You never watched it. I've heard things. 00:18:19.380 --> 00:18:23.220 I've watched trailers. Did it lose its way after 00:18:23.220 --> 00:18:27.250 the first season? No. Second season. No. Didn't 00:18:27.250 --> 00:18:29.910 lose his way. They lost an actor. They changed 00:18:29.910 --> 00:18:32.309 him, but they swapped him out. They did a lot. 00:18:32.549 --> 00:18:35.710 Yeah. And they wrapped it up with a movie. I 00:18:35.710 --> 00:18:37.750 thought it was some of the best TV I've ever 00:18:37.750 --> 00:18:40.769 seen. Really? Yeah. Okay. It was British, wasn't 00:18:40.769 --> 00:18:44.049 it? No. It's made by the Wachowskis. It's American. 00:18:44.710 --> 00:18:47.109 From the creators of The Matrix. Okay. I'm going 00:18:47.109 --> 00:18:49.190 to have to give that a watch. Yeah. I'm going 00:18:49.190 --> 00:18:51.369 to have to give that a watch. And it's got tits 00:18:51.369 --> 00:18:56.789 in it. For fuck's sake. Look, I look in the mirror 00:18:56.789 --> 00:18:59.890 and it's got tits in it. It doesn't inspire. 00:19:00.650 --> 00:19:04.309 It just doesn't. It's like, why are your nipples 00:19:04.309 --> 00:19:07.289 looking at you like that, Clint? Do you know 00:19:07.289 --> 00:19:09.190 what I forgot to tell you that I watched? What 00:19:09.190 --> 00:19:14.509 did you forget? I watched Prey. Tell me all about 00:19:14.509 --> 00:19:20.309 it, Jeremy. Don't grip the microphone. You can 00:19:20.309 --> 00:19:25.700 hear it. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yes! I knew 00:19:25.700 --> 00:19:28.900 you would. I knew you would. It is a good movie. 00:19:29.180 --> 00:19:31.359 Such a good movie, dude. The best Predator movie 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:35.980 I've ever seen. Hands down. Hands down. The only 00:19:35.980 --> 00:19:40.400 bugbear I have. This is coming from a movie that 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:45.059 I liked and enjoyed. Okay. Is the thing that 00:19:45.059 --> 00:19:48.160 I remember a few weeks ago we talked about Aliens 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:51.019 and Predator and you said that the aliens are 00:19:51.019 --> 00:19:55.240 just Mindless fucking whatever. Right. Okay. 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.539 The thing about – fuck, I keep forgetting to 00:19:58.539 --> 00:20:02.240 look up the name of the race of predators. Predators 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:05.259 for all intensive purposes. It starts with a 00:20:05.259 --> 00:20:09.940 Y. I know that. Watcher. Watcher. W -A -U -T 00:20:09.940 --> 00:20:13.559 -J -A. Okay. Watcher. Watcher. So the thing that 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:20.440 kind of is a bit muddy for me is the fact that 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:24.180 they're coming – To earth to hunt the best. Yeah. 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:29.079 In Prey, you see him, he's a little bit more 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:32.640 stripped down than - Very, very primitive. Primitive. 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:35.400 Yeah, like he's going out there with less armor 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:40.980 on or something like that. The fact that there's 00:20:40.980 --> 00:20:44.599 a scene where he shoots the coyote, grabs the 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:46.660 skull, and you see him melt it down. It's a pretty 00:20:46.660 --> 00:20:49.019 cool moment. You see how they do that to preserve 00:20:49.019 --> 00:20:52.960 the skull. Why did he need to do that? He didn't 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.900 fight the coyote? Didn't hunt the coyote? He 00:20:56.900 --> 00:21:02.019 just shot it from a distance? Again, I don't 00:21:02.019 --> 00:21:04.619 know. Yeah. Like if he's, you know, if they said 00:21:04.619 --> 00:21:06.700 they were just out, like I don't know the law, 00:21:06.819 --> 00:21:09.359 are they just out to collect skulls of predators? 00:21:09.740 --> 00:21:14.940 But again, I don't think it's the skulls that 00:21:14.940 --> 00:21:19.259 he's collecting. I think it's the spines because 00:21:19.259 --> 00:21:21.329 it's, There was something in the lore about the 00:21:21.329 --> 00:21:22.809 spines and the stuff that they're getting from 00:21:22.809 --> 00:21:25.170 the bone marrow of the spine. I can't remember 00:21:25.170 --> 00:21:26.369 where I read that. There'll be research for this 00:21:26.369 --> 00:21:27.589 week and we can talk about it next week. Yeah, 00:21:27.589 --> 00:21:31.309 we can talk about that. But it might have been 00:21:31.309 --> 00:21:33.170 a predator that he'd never come across before. 00:21:33.250 --> 00:21:35.150 So he's like, bang, okay. And then got that for 00:21:35.150 --> 00:21:36.230 the collection. And got that for the collection. 00:21:36.990 --> 00:21:40.609 Because it's kind of like insinuated that they're 00:21:40.609 --> 00:21:44.170 going up against whatever's the best kind of 00:21:44.170 --> 00:21:47.309 predator and that's the skull they collect. Yeah. 00:21:49.130 --> 00:21:54.450 Killed a fuck ton of humans. Yep. But yeah, like 00:21:54.450 --> 00:21:58.089 primitive humans basically with fucking flint 00:21:58.089 --> 00:22:00.690 pistols. Yeah, even the French have got single 00:22:00.690 --> 00:22:04.710 shot flint pistols. Yep. The fact that he uses 00:22:04.710 --> 00:22:08.650 the fucking camo. Okay. The invisibility. Yep. 00:22:08.670 --> 00:22:12.230 Kind of get it when he's fighting Arnie, you 00:22:12.230 --> 00:22:18.700 know, he's in a war zone. Yeah. That's one of 00:22:18.700 --> 00:22:23.859 the things I don't essentially fucking – I don't 00:22:23.859 --> 00:22:27.039 hate it, but I'm like, why? Do you think if they 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:32.059 left out the active camouflage that you would 00:22:32.059 --> 00:22:33.900 have run into an issue with it, that they didn't 00:22:33.900 --> 00:22:37.119 introduce the active camera? I would have preferred 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:40.240 it if he was kind of getting down and dirty, 00:22:40.380 --> 00:22:44.740 wearing like mud from the area to kind of – But 00:22:44.740 --> 00:22:46.640 see, this is where we're going to run into it 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:48.640 with Trachtenberg Universe, which he's doing 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.920 now, when we've got killer of killers coming 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:54.400 out and they're in the ancient samurai days and 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:58.059 they're in the Viking days, he's got active chemo. 00:22:58.059 --> 00:23:00.920 Yeah. So I think that's going to, it'll explain 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:04.799 more by watching them movies. I hope we get something. 00:23:05.019 --> 00:23:08.180 Yes. Because that's the thing, like something 00:23:08.180 --> 00:23:09.960 about the lore of it that doesn't make sense 00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:13.740 to me. Right. If they're kind of matching their 00:23:13.740 --> 00:23:17.099 technology to their prey. Right. It would make 00:23:17.099 --> 00:23:19.680 more sense to me. But, yeah, there's that, the 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:25.640 active camo. I bet that's about the alien. And 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:31.079 the fucking hatchet with the leather strapped 00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:34.220 to it. Right. You should never catch that. Like, 00:23:34.220 --> 00:23:39.839 that was a bit much, you know? In prey. Right. 00:23:39.900 --> 00:23:42.960 It was cool. It was cool. But it kind of took 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:46.180 me out for a second there. Right, okay. Yeah, 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.140 I don't know. It's just the way she's throwing 00:23:48.140 --> 00:23:51.859 it, ripping it back and catching it. It's not 00:23:51.859 --> 00:23:56.400 Mjolnir. No. That was probably one of the only 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:58.460 things that I ran into was that. I would have 00:23:58.460 --> 00:24:00.579 preferred it if she yanked it and pulled it back. 00:24:01.700 --> 00:24:04.740 Gotcha. Leather straps aren't elastic. Yeah. 00:24:05.420 --> 00:24:09.400 I got you. Yeah. There was just kind of the weaker 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.759 parts of the movie. Yep. As a whole, I enjoyed 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:17.400 it. It was good. I liked it. Yeah. I agree with 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:20.099 you when you said best of the Predator franchise. 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:22.759 Jesus Christ, I am quite drunk. I'm slurring 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:27.640 my words. I agree with you with that. You could 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:36.029 have had that again. When we talk about movies 00:24:36.029 --> 00:24:38.069 that have been remade, rebooted and stuff and 00:24:38.069 --> 00:24:39.950 you could have called it someone else and it 00:24:39.950 --> 00:24:42.230 would have been just a good movie. The fact that 00:24:42.230 --> 00:24:44.430 they've called this Prey, it's not Predator, 00:24:44.509 --> 00:24:50.309 Prey. It's just Prey. You could have gone into 00:24:50.309 --> 00:24:52.390 that with fresh eyes, dude, not having to watch 00:24:52.390 --> 00:24:55.109 anything else in the world of the Predator franchise 00:24:55.109 --> 00:24:58.890 and you would have been okay. You would not have 00:24:58.890 --> 00:25:01.329 had to have had anything explained to you. You 00:25:01.329 --> 00:25:02.849 don't have to have any prior knowledge of the 00:25:02.849 --> 00:25:06.279 Predator universe. It was just ears. Yep. And 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:11.380 I think it killed it. Yeah, it was good. I would 00:25:11.380 --> 00:25:15.660 like to know if that root or whatever, the healing 00:25:15.660 --> 00:25:19.059 medicine, whether that's legit or not. Because 00:25:19.059 --> 00:25:22.539 if that's not legit and, you know, it just happens 00:25:22.539 --> 00:25:25.099 to be they can lower their body temperature by 00:25:25.099 --> 00:25:29.059 this magical root that didn't really exist, that's 00:25:29.059 --> 00:25:35.680 a little cheap as well? Well. I would have liked 00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:37.799 if she'd covered herself in mud and called back 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.559 to the original Predator. Well, again, yeah, 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:43.579 I agree with you on that. And we see Adrian Brody 00:25:43.579 --> 00:25:47.140 do that in the Predators. Yeah. I would have 00:25:47.140 --> 00:25:49.599 liked to have seen something like that. However, 00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:54.259 I'm going to call them Indians because. Yeah. 00:25:54.900 --> 00:25:57.779 Indigenous people. Yeah. But not just that. Like, 00:25:57.779 --> 00:26:01.240 did you know how they got their name? Indians. 00:26:01.930 --> 00:26:03.769 I actually watched a stand -up comedian explain 00:26:03.769 --> 00:26:07.230 this, and it was like Indians, he called them 00:26:07.230 --> 00:26:10.369 Indians because Indios means people of God, and 00:26:10.369 --> 00:26:12.170 they were the most pure people that he'd come 00:26:12.170 --> 00:26:14.809 across, and he called them Indios, Indian, Indios, 00:26:15.029 --> 00:26:16.369 all that sort of stuff. So that's how they come 00:26:16.369 --> 00:26:22.369 about. But the fact that they knew shit that 00:26:22.369 --> 00:26:25.130 we don't, dude, fucking peyote. Have you ever 00:26:25.130 --> 00:26:27.490 seen them when they do their peyote ceremonies? 00:26:27.930 --> 00:26:33.920 Incredible. I do magic mushies. And to me, man, 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:36.460 magic mushies are transcendent. Every single 00:26:36.460 --> 00:26:38.119 person on this earth should do magic mushrooms. 00:26:39.019 --> 00:26:43.119 You haven't done them ever. I do them once a 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:49.200 month at least. For them to have been doing peyote 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.339 since the dawn of time and for them to be doing 00:26:52.339 --> 00:26:56.819 all that natural medicines, dude, we don't know 00:26:56.819 --> 00:27:00.579 the fucking slightest thing what they know. There's 00:27:00.579 --> 00:27:04.119 definitely something to it. Yeah. So I hope if 00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:06.819 there is a plant or there is a root or if there's 00:27:06.819 --> 00:27:08.319 a medicine that they knew about that lowered 00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:10.059 their body temperature, fucking sweet. Yeah. 00:27:10.140 --> 00:27:14.319 I sincerely hope. Yeah. But, yeah. I love this 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.180 fact that they bring in real world shit into 00:27:17.180 --> 00:27:19.259 something that's so fantastical and so out of 00:27:19.259 --> 00:27:21.400 there that they're introducing aliens that hunt. 00:27:22.180 --> 00:27:26.779 Yeah. But, yeah. I love Prey, man. I thought 00:27:26.779 --> 00:27:29.279 it was so good. And it really does get me amped 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.779 for Killer of Killers. Yeah, I'm definitely looking 00:27:31.779 --> 00:27:34.859 forward to it more after having watched it. I 00:27:34.859 --> 00:27:38.079 really thought you would have loved that. I really 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:42.559 did. It's not, you know, they don't ham it up 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:46.319 with a comedy. There's no big muscle bicep moments, 00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:50.400 nothing like that. But it's still just Predator, 00:27:50.460 --> 00:27:54.940 and it's so good. So well written, so well acted. 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.380 I think it's just a great production. It would 00:27:57.380 --> 00:28:00.259 have been pretty shit -ass if he'd rocked up 00:28:00.259 --> 00:28:03.960 in the full fucking armour. Agreed. Agreed. I 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.079 love that it was a bone mask, dude. Where did 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:11.539 that bone mask come from? That'd be a nice little 00:28:11.539 --> 00:28:14.319 fucking comic background, how he got that fucking 00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.359 skull. Yeah. Absolutely, 100 % agree. And I'm 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:19.900 glad you finally watched it because it is good. 00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:23.200 Yeah. All right, thank you very much for joining 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:28.779 us again. Enjoyed having you. We're doing something 00:28:28.779 --> 00:28:31.099 different this week, so catch us on Monday, Wednesdays 00:28:31.099 --> 00:28:35.059 and Fridays. We'll be here on all your social 00:28:35.059 --> 00:28:38.299 networks. Leave us a comment, you know, send 00:28:38.299 --> 00:28:42.119 us a DM, do what you will, what you want, and 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:44.940 we'll see you next time. All right. Love, peace, 00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:45.299 chicken grease.