From the Dungeons of Morningstar, I'm Stretch.
And I'm Clint. And this is Prevailing Strange.
Yeah, this week we're going to take it a little
bit different again. Mate, evolution takes many
trades. Only because we've got to record. A little
bit earlier than normal. Yeah. So there might
be a little bit of things that we haven't seen
this week or that have not come up, but. That's
right. Some epic shit has come up since our last
showing. We'll give the weekend review a miss
because we haven't watched anything. Oh, I have.
Any TV. Yeah. Reach a finale aired on Friday
night. All right. Dude. I'm telling you, put
the cowl on the dude. and cast that other fella,
the giant, as Bane. It has to be done. It's only
common sense. If you don't, you're missing it.
You're missing out. Does he have the star power
to take on the Caped Crusader? Alan Richson?
Dude, absolutely. Like, you watch him as Hawkman
or as Hawk in Titans. Yeah, well, that's what
I mean. He's only been a TV actor so far, hasn't
he? Dude, in Reacher, like, you've got to watch.
To sell you, watch the Ministry of Ungentlemanly
Warfare. I have. I've seen it. It's fantastic.
Actually, there we go. There's the movie. See,
again. Again, he killed it. He stole. He ate
every scene he was in. He stole the scenery from
everybody. Give him. Give it to him. Just give
it to him. He said he would do it for free. Oh,
he's actually commented. He wants it, dude. He
wants it bad. He will literally do it for free.
Wow. He's said that to heaps of people. He's
even said it to James Gunn. I will do it for
free. That's a big call. Dude, and the bloke
who plays, I've been watching, I forget his name,
but the guy who plays poorly in the last season.
He's seven foot two. He's actually a giant, all
in proportion. And his character on Reacher season
three, just domineering, like just. Like he smacks
the shit out of Reacher in this one scene. Reacher
gives him everything he's got and punches him
square in the gut. Elmay just laughs and just
smacks the bricks off this kid straight to the
ground. Yeah, right. And you're like, I've been
watching his YouTube channel and one of the nicest,
most polite, gentle people I've ever seen. Okay,
so what kind of content is he making? He's going
around all the world to meet up with all these
strong people and so he'd done. episode I watched
last night was with Eddie Hall, the world's strongest
man. He's done one with the world's tallest female
bodybuilder and she's just an Amazon dude. She's
incredible. So he's just going around doing all
these amazing feats and it just looks interesting
between movies and TV shows. But he's just finally
getting some attention and it's. It's wholesome
to watch. Okay. But you've got to watch Reacher.
Oh, my God, you've got to watch Reacher. I might
get there one day. Have I ever landed down a
dark path, a bum steer? No, but you do not take
any of my paths at all for you. I do so. No,
you don't. I do. I just can't watch that full
Metal Alchemist with Logan. You watch Reacher
with Logan? No, I'll watch that when he goes
to sleep. But that's the thing. I've already
started Reacher three years ago, so I have to
finish it. Well, they're finished now. It has
finished. So, yeah, you might get that. Okay,
there we go. Before our next episode, I will
watch Full Metal Alchemist. Okay. Are you going
to go Brotherhood? No, I'm going to watch the
one you told me, the OG one, because I haven't
read the book, so I don't need to stay true to
the book. And I think we've covered that before.
I don't mind if they deviate away from source
material a little bit. It was good enough that
I came back and watched Brotherhood afterwards
to see the differences. Right. Some things that
have popped up through the week, just little
bits of news, little caveats of such, but did
you get a chance to watch the trailer for Sinners?
Yes. I did get to watch it, yes. It was not what
I was expecting. No, dude. It flips it, doesn't
it? It does because it's set in the Jim Crow
era. Yeah. I thought. Okay, we're going to get
a kind of a serious historical piece. No. No.
Bitch, there be vampires. It's a supernatural
thriller, I guess. Yeah. Very comic book -esque,
right down my alley. And Coogler and Michael
B. Jordan together, I don't think they make bad
movies. No. So Michael B. Jordan is playing a
twin. Yeah. You don't see too much of one of
them. You're right. One obviously seems to be
the protagonist of the story. I'm just wondering
whether the brother is going to be the antagonist
of the story. It'd be interesting, wouldn't it?
It would. Yeah, you only see him a couple of
snippets in the trailer. And as we were talking
about, trailer directors and producers are all
kind of artists themselves. That's right. There's
one scene where they're set up around. A barn.
Looks like it's a bit of a hangout, local hangout.
Yep. And it looks like shit's going to go down.
There's a whole lot of people outside. I'm wondering
whether these are all vampires. Mm -hmm. Yeah,
that's the thing with trailers. They can misdirect
you. Or is it going to be we're going to get
a whole heap of vampires or is there only going
to be one vampire? Yeah. The visuals of it look.
Really cool. And the fact that they've gone,
hang on, let's do a period piece of it, it makes
it even better. I like that. It's not the same
humdrum re -skinned vampire movie you're going
to get. It looks like Deep South, maybe Louisiana
or something. There's a very cool vibe to it.
I wonder whether we're going to get a little
bit more kind of voodoo. Dude, that'd be so good.
If you put that little element in there, it'd
be great. I remember seeing a bit of voodoo in
a movie back in the day called Skeleton Key with
Angelina Jolie in it. Yep. I loved that little
bit because it was set in Louisiana. I love bringing
that in. Bring some, you know, I hate to use
the word culture, but culture. I love that sort
of shit. It is so good and fascinating as shit.
That's what I liked about the first season of
Cloak and Dagger. Again, I didn't watch that
at all. It was an interesting adaption of those
characters. Did it link into the MCU or no? As
far as I know, it was. Yeah. And The Runaways.
I watched The Runaways. Yeah. I didn't mind that.
The real darker, R -rated horror X -Men sort
of movie. Yeah. I didn't mind that. Yeah, I enjoyed
it. Speaking of X -Men, we've spoke about the
X -Men coming into... Doomsday. Do you think
this spells the end for the Fox X -Men? Do you
think they're all going to meet their demise
in this movie? There's a very good chance, I
think. Yep. Do you think there'll be some torch
passing? Yeah, there'll be a change in the guard,
most likely. Whether we get some kind of schism
and it goes back in time for them and then we
get McAvoy and Fassbender turn up. In saying
that, if we did see the demise of the... Fox
X -Men, would you recast completely or would
you actually use the Machiavellian Fassbender
era? I think they'd have to recast, start again.
I think so too. It will be interesting to see
how they go, whether they, even if they do recast
Professor X and Magneto or whether they go down
the path of introducing a completely new slate
of X -Men. Oh, yeah, okay. But. Could you have
X -Men without Magneto and Professor Xavier?
Well, we've seen them plenty of times in the
past. Everybody knows their story. Yeah. I think
Marvel has been kind of leading towards changing
up, bringing in some fresher faces. I think they
want to do this Young Avengers thing. Yeah, I
think they want to pass the torch to a new generation.
I don't know whether that's going to be the best
idea. Well, I think the public or the people
that are buying tickets are going to struggle
with that a little bit. But, again, there was
a time when we didn't even have the MCU. That's
right. So I know that we're the ones buying the
tickets, we're the ones putting butts in seats
and that, but there's always new fans coming
through. I mean, I wouldn't mind. If they were
to bring in some other X -Men kind of, not the
main cast, but characters like Jamie Maddox,
multiple man. Yeah. From the X -Factor run. Yep.
Strong guy. You could bring in some of those
kind of second tier kind of teams. X -Force.
X -Force. I would like to see that, but that
would be, I think. A hard R rating. Look, you'd
have to. But we've seen it works. Whether that's
what Disney wants to do, though. Yeah. I think
their hand was forced with Daredevil. Deadpool.
Deadpool. Or Daredevil. Or Daredevil's MA -15.
It's not a hard R, though. No. No. Yeah, their
hand was forced with Ryan Reynolds and Deadpool,
I think. Yeah. Well, there's not many characters
in the Marvel Universe that speak like Deadpool.
No. But there is plenty of them out there that
could pull off an R -rated movie. Yeah. There's
some that don't need it with Deadpool, and it
has to happen. With Wolverine, it should be.
I tell you what, I wouldn't mind seeing some
of the new Mutants movie cast back again. Like
magic. Yeah. Yeah. She was cool. Sunspot. Sunspot.
Sunspot. Yeah. That was the one where they were
in an asylum, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and
that was actually quite graphic as well, that
one. Yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed that. I thought it
was a good show. Came and went. Came and went.
Had that Maisie Williams out of Game of Thrones.
Yep. She played Wolfsbane. Yeah. Honestly, I
enjoyed it. Like, yeah, I'm not. against them
bringing in other mutants. Yeah. There's that
many to pick from. So many, man. And that's the
thing. With Doomsday, do you think they're going
to go, it's going to be the X -Men versus our
Avengers, or do you think they're going to do
the same thing that we always see? They come
apart, they come apart, and then they come together
for the final battle. I think Avengers versus
X -Men is the obvious thing to do. Yep. Whether
they don't do that because it's the obvious thing
to do. They're so fond of speculating about this
shit because no doubt I know nothing about what's
going to happen. And this is the deviation I
mean. Like not knowing is exciting but also speculating
about it is also exciting but also getting drip
fed little bits of information is also exciting.
So they're getting me coming and going. Where
were we? We were talking about sinners to begin
with and then we went on a tangent. As we do.
As we do. Do you have any news? News -wise, no.
We're pretty low on news because we only did
this two days ago. I had a couple of jokes for
you. I better move the mic away just in case
I piss myself. Did you know that diarrhoea is
hereditary? It runs in your genes. Yeah, it does.
Yeah, I thought you'd like that one. I do. It's
so good, dude. I love that shit. A man was admitted
to hospital today with 25 plastic horses up his
ass. The doctors have described his condition
as stable. See, I think we get a better reaction
when I tell the jokes. Fuck off. That was a good
one. I thought you'd like those. Give me more.
No, that's all the jokes I've got for the night.
I'm going to have to get a dictionary of jokes.
I want to know what your favourite horror movie
is. My favourite horror movie. The most scared
I've ever been in a movie was Strangers. Yeah,
because it's real. Dude, that was a true story.
And the fact that I've had someone when I was
younger knock on my door at 3am and ask for somebody,
fucking real. And I'm like, wow. Dude, even to
this day, it gives me shivers. But favourite
horror movie? A couple of the blokes who my cousin
works with, the Racka Racka Boys, have you ever
heard of the Racka Racka YouTube channel? No.
They're a couple of twin brothers, Denny and
Michael Philippa. They're from South Australia.
So my cousin's actually designed a video game
for them and he used to just, he was playing,
like just met them randomly on Twitch, playing
video games and he's like, oh, I can help you
out with some stuff for your Twitch channel.
And then they just become mates. And so he's
designing video games for them and characters
for them for their videos and stuff. Shout out
to Stanley, dude. And they've just released a
horror movie a couple of years back called Talk
To Me. Yes, it's just coming out on Netflix.
Dude, there's one scene in that where I've never,
ever seen Rachel, like, stop a TV, stop the movie.
Yeah, right. And it was so well done, all practical
effects. Because that's what they do. They're
very – they're doing YouTube channel, man. Everything
was done at home. And this scene is brutal. It's
horrific. And I was taken away. Yep. And the
other one was Hereditary. Oh, yeah. Again, I
think that was an A24 movie as well. I believe
so. Fucking great movie. Dude, great movie. Just
that. And it's just Tony Collette up in the rafters
with a piano wire. Dude, come on. That sound
of Holland and just so subtle. The music doesn't
change. Nothing changes. But when it's panning
through the yard in the house and you just see
all these naked old people in the forest, dude,
and there's no sound to it. There's no ching.
There's no nothing. It's just there. Yeah. Horrific.
One of the only few horror movie steps ever watched
with me. Yeah. And, yeah, that scene when Tony
Clert's up in the top corner and we're just watching
it and we're watching him walk through the room.
I'm like, oh, shit, there she is in the top corner.
And even that delayed reaction, Steph saw it
and shit herself. Dude. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't
watched Smile. I've heard that's pretty scary.
Yeah, I haven't watched it. No, no. A lot of
the horror movies I watch are just like, whoa.
Like it's like that. Yeah, you enjoy it. Yeah,
but those talk to me, hereditary and strangers
had me doing this shit. Yeah. Like watching through
my fingers. What about you? I'm a big fan of
the Conjuring movies. Yeah. Specifically the
first two. That devil made me do it kind of.
It was okay. Agreed. But that first one, seeing
them haunted in that house. Yes, sir. Through
the fucking, out of the dark. That was fucking
good. Yeah, it was really well done. Yeah. Not
kind of, I think it was a change where they'd
gone from a lot of horror movies that were really
in your face. Yeah, dude. You would see like
whatever the entity was would be out in the open
or whatever. And it was kind of subtle until
you got that jump scare. It was kind of, they
were good jump scares. Yeah. I really enjoyed
those movies. The first season of The Haunting
of Hill House. Dude, that jump scare in the car
is still my top five jump scares, bro. Yeah,
it was good. You go back and watch it and the
amount of times you see the ghosts in the background
that you didn't notice the first time around.
Again, so subtle. There's no jing, there's no
jump scare to it. It's just there. Yeah, like,
oh, fuck, okay. It's just there off in the corner.
And it's like they build the tension so well.
that you don't need that jump scare. No. All
of a sudden you see that person in the back and
you're like, oh, yeah, wow, okay, I didn't see
them there a second ago. Yeah. Yeah, really good.
Again, watching through this. Yeah, right. Yeah,
Conjuring's were my favourites, but that first
season of Haunting of Hill House, so good. Did
you ever watch Sinister with Ethan Hawke? No.
So him and his family move to a house and in
the attic he finds a whole heap of reel -to -reel
video, home video. So he starts watching them
and it's an entity guides the children to killing
the parents. Yeah, right. And he is noticing
things that his kids are doing. that these other
kids did. That paralleled those. That paralleled,
and it is fucking scary. Yeah, okay. It's good.
Recommend. Recommend. And the character design
is sensational. So is it more kind of like a
tense thriller because he's just keeping an eye
on his kids? No, because he doesn't really watch
his children. He's more, he gets so, I think
he's an author, and he's just so engrossed in
these videos, and that's what. Does his head
in. Yeah. Okay. Fucked up. Right. The Fifth Kind.
Was it The Fifth Kind? The Fourth Kind. The Fourth
Kind. Milla Jovovich again. Yeah. There was a
couple of scenes in that that had me going, oh.
But again, the whole fan footage thing of it
all, it worked. Yeah. I enjoyed it. Yeah, that
was probably a decade after Blair Witch, which
is still up there as one of my favourite horror
movies of all time as well. It was weird, that
fourth con. It had some really good tense scenes,
but then it would just kind of bore the shit
out of you. Yes. For a good part of the movie
as well. The scenes in it, it's not an owl, it's
not an owl. When it's not even, you're not even
in that moment where they're building the tension
of something being outside. It's their reaction
to their remembering it. I thought that was kind
of. I think the scariest parts of that were the
home footage where they're in the bedroom. And
I love bending backwards and elevating from the
bed. And then there's the other one where it's
the chick looking at the thing and then a jaw
just distends and goes massively long. I thought
that was more it for me. Yeah. Yeah, no, that
was a fun movie. The little aliens walking in
didn't really scare me. No. What was that movie
that I watched not long ago? It was an alien
movie. I was really surprised by it. The movie
No One Will Save You. I haven't seen that, dude.
It's a weird one. What I wish I'd known before
I started watching it was there is no dialogue
in it. There's, look, so many movies coming out
that are like that now. Yeah. I got probably
a third of the way into it. I'm like, okay, they're
building tension or whatever, and this is before
the aliens turn up or whatever. And she just
doesn't talk to anyone. And then even when the
aliens come, there's no communicating with anyone.
Nobody in the town talks. And by the end of it,
I was like, they didn't talk throughout that
entire movie. It kind of drove me nuts. I think
I would have been better if I'd known. That it
was a dialogue -less movie? Yeah, that it just
didn't have any dialogue in it to begin with.
Because some of the aliens, they look pretty
cool, like a lot of greys but then taller ones.
And then they had some really cool sound design
for the aliens and them attacking and shit. Yeah.
Which I think contrasted the fact that there
was no dialogue. But, man, you should put on
the fucking cover that there's no dialogue in
that movie. I don't think I could do that. I
don't think I could do that. It was interesting.
I'm glad I watched it. Yeah. It wasn't really
scary. It was kind of cool. Would you recommend
it? I would say it's worth a watch. Yeah. If
you've got plenty of time, you know what I mean?
If you're starved for time, like I am, and don't
get to watch that many movies, probably not.
Yeah. But if you're looking for something to
watch because you've watched plenty of stuff,
give it a watch. It's different. Oh, yeah, all
right. Did you ever watch Hardcore Henry? No.
Look, it had dialogue in it, but it was all shot
from the first person on a GoPro. Yeah. I had
to watch that one in like two or three sittings
because I just got, I legit felt ill watching
it. Yeah, right. But yeah, no dialogue really
weirds me out. Even there was a dialogue in a
quiet place, you know what I mean? They were
using sign language and they were talking quietly.
Yeah, there was that story narrative. Yeah. So
she's been shunned. Is she a non -believer? No,
no, no. Something happened in the past, nobody
in the town will talk to her. So she's going
in. There might be some chatter in the background
between characters, but nobody talks to her.
Therefore, she's a little bit mute, I suppose.
Right. Yeah, I don't know. Look, I'll give it
a go. I'll give it a go, but it's got to be after
Fullmetal Alchemist. Get on that shit. I'll get
on it, promise. All right, I've got a question
for you. If you could have any comic book property,
made into a film or a franchise, what would you
start with? Okay. I think there's a series I
read, there's an image comic called Saga. Right.
I think it's been described as kind of Star Wars
meets Game of Thrones. It's a little bit political,
but it's a space opera. Okay. It's based on these
two characters that... are from two warring factions,
two different interspecies relationship, and
they have a daughter, and they're just trying
to get her away from this kind of battlefront
and find a life for themselves in the universe.
It's been a while since I read it. I think she's
royalty, so basically they're kids, a princess
or something. But he's kind of like a faun. He
has like the ram horns, the long ears, kind of.
So it's a bit fantasy as well. It's a bit fantasy
but in space, yeah. And then she's kind of like
a pixie -like character. But, yeah, it had some
pretty cool visuals in it. I'd like to see that
on the big screen. Was that a book, comic book
or graphic novel? Comic book. Yeah, right. It
was a comic book run. I think the main arc kind
of. had complete and then the latest additions
they've brought out have been what they call
seasons. So they skip forward in time a bit and
focus on a different character and continue the
story on that way. But, yeah, it was a pretty
good story. Was it a long run? I think it ran
for a few years. It's been running for at least
10 years, but like on and off. So I think it
had a hiatus there for a little bit and then
it came back with these seasons, so stories within
that universe. Didn't necessarily carry on that
main arc. Yeah, right. But just different characters
from the same universe sort of thing. Yeah, I
think they're concentrating on the daughter growing
up a bit now. Sounds very Jupiter ascending.
Yeah, I kind of get that. And kind of Valerian
and the planet. Yes. The city of a thousand planets.
Yeah. Yeah, kind of that similar idea. That movie,
Valerian. Yep. Did you enjoy that? No. I found
the two characters that I wanted to pluck their
eyes out. Yeah, detestable. So detestable, dude.
I don't know whether she is not a good actress,
but I can't stand him. Yeah, he's... He was great
in the first movie he was in. It was called...
Chronic? Chronicle. Chronicle, yes. Him as the
Green Goblin in Spider -Man. Dude, he was just,
I hate the way he talks. I hate the way he looks.
He's got one of the most punchable faces I've
ever seen in my life. Very sneaky looking little
dude. Yeah, he just looks sly as fuck. I don't,
I didn't like, I really could have jumped on
board with that movie if the two lead characters
were actually likable. Yeah, yeah. Because the
visuals were great. They didn't even seem to
have any chemistry either. No. Like, they could
have been unlikable characters, but if they had
the chemistry, it would have worked. Yeah. But
they were no good by themselves. They were no
good together. Nope. But everything looked sensational.
So good. Yeah. The story was actually okay. I
think that was like five books wrapped into one.
And it could have been really good. Very cool
premise. Very cool. I enjoyed it. You said Jupiter
Ascending. What did you think of that movie?
Look, I like the movie to sit there and just
put it on in the background. The movie itself
looked okay. I don't like. Mila Kunis is an actress.
She's great as the voice of Meg because she's
got a punchable voice. I don't like her as an
actress and I don't, I like Channing Tatum, but
having them both together wasn't my idea of a
good time. I didn't enjoy it. I wanted to enjoy
it because I like the Wachowskis. Yep. I like
a lot of stuff that they've done. I like The
Matrix. That's about it. They have a series and
a movie on Netflix called Sense8. Never watched
it. It is fucking sensational. Yeah, right. Okay.
As much as I like The Matrix, 2, 3, and 4 were
shit. Yes. I would probably put Sense8 above
The Matrix. The Matrix or the 2, 3, and 4? Well,
The Matrix as a whole. Right. Okay. Probably
not against The Matrix by itself. Matrix. The
first movie and the Animatrix, sensational. Yeah,
transcendent, dude. Yeah, fuck yeah. I could
watch The Matrix over and over and over again
and never worry about having to watch the other
ones at all. The Matrix has, even now, and what
are we, 25 years later, 26 years later, still
revolutionary, man. Oh, yeah. That idea for that
film was fucking incredible. Fuck yeah. They
have a very similar kind of... Not a similar
idea, but the concept's really cool. I'd suggest
anyone to watch it. It's fucking, it's a good
ride. Yeah. Yeah, right, okay. It got three seasons.
I believe it's three seasons. Did they get to
wrap it up? It got canned, but people rallied
behind and they made a movie to wrap it up. And
the movie wasn't too bad. Right, okay. As long
as you watch. Very Firefly. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Is the movie called Sense8? Yeah. Okay. It's
all on Netflix. It's a Netflix movie. Oh, right.
Okay. Yeah. Fair enough. It's really good. I'll
suggest it to anybody to watch and then a lot
of people forget about it because it never pops
up on Netflix these days unless you go looking
for it. All right. I'll have to have a look at
that. After Fullmetal Alchemist. Of course. I
promise. Okay. You asked me what comic book movie
you'd like to see adapted. What would you like
to see adapted? There's a couple. But there's
one that I desperately want to see, and that's
The Darkness. Again, it has to be rated R. It
was the first comic book. It's what got me into
comics. So when I was an apprentice tattoo artist
in Cessnock, we had just this little fucking
hallway of a shop, and you go down a set of stairs,
and under there, I used to go down there when
I was bored, clean up, make inks, do all that
sort of shit, right? And there was this little
silver. like just a silver box, and I opened
it up, and it was just full of comic books, but
it was only The Darkness. There was a couple
of big graphic novels in there, and I read the
first issue that was there, and it was the introduction
to our character, Jack Estacado, who's a mob
family, and he's just come of age. And when you
come of age, when you're in the Estacado bloodline,
you get taken over by something called The Darkness.
Now, the darkness allows you to basically conjure
all these little demons that they call the Darklings,
and they do all this nasty shit, and they're
not nice people. Very anti -hero, very violent.
But the one image that ever stuck in my mind
in that comic book, it's a one -page thing, and
it's just a black and white silhouette. And it's
like a sunrise, sunset in the background. Yep.
And it's like he's got his fingers in this guy's
eyes and he's pulling his skeleton out of his
body. And it's just this big spray of blood,
skeleton, and his body's still there wearing
his glasses. Oh, yeah. That's very image, very
early 2000s, late 90s kind of. It was. They made
a video game of it and the video game was great.
It was early console, Xbox. I'm pretty sure it
was just Xbox and Xbox 360. Great game, great
playability, and I really think it deserves a
movie, man. Like it's not – you talk to people
about comics all the time and not many people
know about The Darkness, but it's a story that
I think would do so well. Yeah, I would like
to see. An image universe movie. Yeah. The darkness.
Well, we're getting a new spawn. Savage Dragon.
Did you ever read that back in the day? Yeah.
The big green dude. He's a police officer. Has
like a mohawk. That's like a frill. Yeah, dude.
Pretty cool. Witchblade. Lady Death. Yeah. Pit.
The Pit. Dude. Yeah. Great character. I've got
to. I remember my brother had a heap of trading
cards when we were younger, Spawn, The Pit. Yep.
Very cool artwork. So cool, man. That kind of
foil holographic cards. Image Books had some
top -tier illustrations, man. Oh, yeah. So good.
Well, that was the thing with Image. They were
all illustrators from Marvel, from DC. They went
out on their own, pretty much rock stars of their
business. And they were writing, they were illustrating,
they were colouring their own books and they
were doing it in like record time. Yep. Like
trying to get books out on time. I think they
were drinking and doing drugs and carrying on
like frat boys at the time. Yeah, it was the
80s and 90s, mate. It was sweet. Who was it?
It was Rob Limfield. Rob Liefeld. Liefeld, sorry.
Can't draw feet. Yeah. Loves these pouches. Yep.
Jim Lee. Oh, dude, God. Yeah, and he's still
in the game today doing great things. McFarlane,
Todd McFarlane, of course, Spawn. Oh, man. I
miss seeing his channel on Instagram. I followed
him around and he'd sit there and say, oh, this
is how we draw Spawn's cape and this is why we
designed Spawn's cape this way. He's very, very,
because he's a producer and I think he might
even be directing the next Spawn movie. He's
producing it. Yeah. Yeah. So he was giving updates,
regular updates on it, and they had to put a
halt to it because Jamie Foxx was nearly dead.
So they've halted it for a bit. Yeah. One of
the earliest kind of things that really stood
out for me with comics back in the day, do you
remember the Wizard catalogue that would come
out? Yeah. There was a Wizard cover that had
Spawn and Spider -Man on it. drawn by Todd McFarlane
and, like, the webs coming out from the pages
and the chains and Spawn's cape. It was fucking
sick, man. Yeah, right. I used to practice drawing
that picture all the time. Yeah. And some of
his illustrations back in the day, Todd McFarlane,
fucking sick. Yeah. Spawn doesn't get enough
credit, that movie. Michael Jai White nailed
it. Yeah. I love the movie, the soundtrack. Soundtrack,
dude. Yeah. Fucking epic. Yeah. Like Silverchair,
you had Korn. Incubus. Death Tones, Incubus.
Metallica, yeah. Butthole Surfers. Yeah. So much
good shit on it. Yeah. Marilyn Manson. Mm -hmm.
And then you got John Leguizamo as Clown. Yeah.
The Violator, not so much, but the Clown. Perfect.
Yeah. The visual effects are woeful to look back
on, but they were pushing the envelope. Dude,
of the chains, of the cape. Dude, that cape.
Yeah. Could you imagine how long that would have
taken to animate? That just massive, massive
long -flown red and black cape. Yeah. Beautiful.
And you see John Leguizamo getting into that
costume and, like, Like when he's squatting down,
the whole movie, he's just waddling around. That
would have sucked. Yeah, it would have sucked
hard, man. But it was, look, apart from when
he goes to hell and there's all the other Spawns
down there and Satan's down there and that, it
was good. One of the things I like about Spawn
is kind of like the Ghost Rider kind of whole
thing is you do tend to see a lot of different
variants from different time periods of Spawn.
Ghost Rider, he showed up in the movie, but also
in the comics a lot. There's the guy that rides
the horse, cowboy style Ghost Rider. You got
a very similar one of Spawn. Exactly. Victorian
era, kind of like Van Helsing -esque type Spawn.
There's always a lot of different variants. It's
pretty cool. There's a, they get called the mystical,
mystical beep. In movies and shit, and it's like
there's always a mystical guide that follows
you around. But, yeah, there's always someone
that's been there before and shows you the ropes.
Very fun. Even in Nicolas Cage's Ghost Rider,
the movie, that scene where it's Carter Slade
and it's Johnny Cage. Johnny Cage? Johnny Blaze.
Johnny Blaze. Come on, mate. Fucking hell, Johnny
Cage. What are we talking about? Mortal Kombat.
So, yeah, Johnny plays, and he's on his chopper,
and Carter Slade's on the horse, and they're
just... So good. It looks so good. And he's like,
sorry, man, I was holding on to one more ride,
and that was it. It's badass. Fuck, yeah. Metal
as fuck. I would like to see the two versions
of Ghost Rider show up in maybe Secret Wars.
Dude. I think that was a saving grace. It was
a high point for Agents of S .H .I .E .L .D.,
Agents of S .H .I .E .L .D. The car was sexy
as shit. His leathers were insane. They kept
that same skull that wasn't a realistic skull.
Like the comics. Yes, dude. I liked the grittiness
of Nicolas Cage's second Ghost Rider. Just the
way the smoke come off and trailed off and the
flames and that, the visuals were so much better.
But, yeah, I'd love to see them both. And I would
like to see Jon Barenthal as the cosmic ghostwriter.
No. Have you come across that in the comics?
No. Oh, man, that's a fucking great little story
there. He's a punisher. Yeah. Leave him as the
punisher. So do you know the storyline between
it? So it's... In the future when Thanos has
taken over, Thanos is king, Thanos rules. Yep.
He keeps a pet Hulk. Yeah, right. He's pretty
badass. This fucking version of Thanos, he's
like the last one left or whatever. Anyway, he
keeps around a Ghost Rider because the penance
stare gets him off. He likes the penance stare.
Yeah, right. Yeah, it's actually Fink Castle.
After he's died, gone to hell, he's pulled him
back. Let's go. And he's the new Ghost Rider.
But then he's also kind of like the silver surfer
for Thanos, his cosmic Ghost Rider. Yeah. Oi,
that sounds like a cracker story. So he's getting
around with like this big kind of almost like
a test tube -shaped fucking helmet on for space.
But it's just full of, like, a flaming ghost
skull. Yeah, right. He's got the Punisher fucking
skull on the front of him, and he's riding this
big fucking, like, kind of looks like a motorbike,
but it's a space bike type thing. Fuck, yes.
Even just to get, I guess, a slight glimpse of
that somewhere, like Easter egg, that'd be pretty
cool. I was actually watching something last
night, and it was someone mentioning the original
storyline for Thanos' snap. Mm -hmm. And Rachel's
like... What do you mean? And I'm like, oh, in
the comics he was in love with death and he had
a falling out with death. She was a woman. He
was in love with her. And to get back in her
good graces and to gain favour, he said he would
just start sending souls. And that was the reason
behind the snap. And she goes, why wasn't that
the story? I'm like, it's fucking badass, right?
It's metal as fuck. The whole resources thing,
you run into plot holes. You're like, why don't
you just create more resources? Why doesn't he
just be in the universe? Why doesn't he just
do this? But having the story where he's in love
with death and he's sending souls, I like that.
And Aubrey Plaza's death is so good. I think
they just missed out on kind of having that introduction
of death, the character. They didn't really want
to. kind of bring in these. You don't want to
bring in Thanos. You don't want to bring in Death.
You don't want to bring in this love story. It's
a big introduction. But we're starting to get
tastes of it. Like we've got Aubrey Plaza's Death
and then at the end of that last woeful fucking
Thor Love and Thunder, they came up against Eternity
and then we're getting like. Who? Eternity. Who
the fuck's that? Like one of the. That movie
to me was so fucking forgettable, dude. You know
how in the Marvel comics they have all these
personifications of different kind of, not elements,
but like death is one, eternity is one, the tribunal,
the three -headed tribunal that was in Loki that
turned out to be a robot that was a kind of a
nod towards that. Right. Just these entities
that kind of. Have always been there. Always
been there. Kind of run the universe basically.
Like the Watcher. Like the Watcher, yeah, in
the background. Yeah. Just these things that.
Gotcha. Make the universe tick. Yeah, I think
they were just those two bigger aspects to be
bringing in. Yeah. So the whole, the resources
and the exponential growth of population of people,
of beings in the universe kind of made a little
bit more sense for the Avengers. I think it was
a bit more grounded as well. Like everybody knows
that we're overpopulated and this sort of shit,
that and the other. Yeah. So, yeah, like I understand
why they did it. I just think it would have been
a bit more metal. Somebody pointed out that in
Endgame when Cat walks in to see Natasha and
he talks about how he's seen whales again in
the harbour. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then somebody
showed the scene of them, the Atlanteans riding
whales. And it was like, oh, there's just that
little connection because they ride into the
bridge into the city. Yeah, right. Yeah, it was
just like a little nod. Somebody's like, oh,
I wonder if, you know, they're related or not.
Yeah. Oh, when Kukulkan and that rode into the,
yes, right. Slightly different times, but it
was just like, oh, maybe, you know, the Atlanteans
were kind of checking out the surface a bit more
now that half the population was gone. That's
a nice little nod, I like that. Are you excited
to see Namor again? Did you like him in Black
Panther 2? Thoroughly enjoyed him. Me too. I
preferred him to the comic book version. I liked
the Aztec -y vibe of their armour. They leant
into that cultural feel. Yeah, the whole Mayan
sort of aspect of it all. I really, really, really
liked it. Yeah. And I loved that he was just
a man of his people, just wanted to protect them,
make sure they were okay. Yeah. I liked it. Instead
of the comic version, which seems to be like
a womanising arsehole. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I loved
the imagery of it. I loved the armour. I didn't
even run into an issue with his little wings
on his feet. Yeah, and it's kind of funny, but,
I mean, he's a mutant, so weird shit happens.
I liked the way that it was like he was skating
on the air. It wasn't just his wings carrying
him and shit. Yeah. Again, that was very, very
Jupiter ascending. True. It's all connected.
Yeah, it all comes back. No, it doesn't. It shouldn't.
Stop it. I've got another question for you. Yes,
sir. So coming off the back of the last episode,
we talked about Alien Romulus, how you'd watched
it. Yep. One of the things about the Alien franchise
is I've always loved that, in my opinion, aliens.
Is the better movie. Not just your opinion. I
think that's an actual fact. It's always, I found
interesting is there is usually the sequel is
worse than the original. 90 % of the time, yeah.
If I was to say what sequels are better than
the originals, what kind of comes to your mind?
Well, I actually, would you like my top five?
Sure. Would you like a top two one? Or top five
if you can bring them to mind. All right. So
in no particular order, The Dark Knight. Absolutely.
The second part of The Batman Begins. Blade Runner
2049. Blade Runner 2049 is so much better than
the first. While the first movie is a great movie,
has a lot of great elements to it. Yes. It's
still not a perfect movie. No. Blade Runner 2049
isn't either. I'm not saying, yeah, I'm not saying
it's a perfect movie, but I think it builds on
that world. Yeah. I think it did it better. Absolutely.
I reckon that there should light a fire under
the ass of Denis Villeneuve, the director. If
he's going to be making two more Dune movies,
this is another franchise that needs his touch.
He killed it, dude. Yeah. So The Dark Knight,
2049, across the Spider -Verse. Yes. Animated.
Which is pretty crazy because that first one
was fucking great. Honestly, when they said there's
a trilogy of these, I'm like, if the first one
was that perfect, how are you going to top it?
And they did. Nailed it. The animation style
on that and the fact that even, like, on different
frame rates than everybody else just because
it was, it's just touches like that, man. It
can't do in real life cinema where that works
and it should stay that way. That trilogy on
its own, leave it. If they stick the leaning
with a third one, perfect trilogy, man, and that's
hard. That's not heard of. Aliens, of course,
is. Aliens on its own is a standout movie. As
a sequel, it just dwarfs the first movie. Yeah.
Well, we've got one more. No, fuck Aliens off.
Okay. Winter Soldier. Yeah. Winter Soldier is
the best Captain America movie. As much as I
like Civil War. Winter Soldier. Wow. Even if
it wasn't a comic book movie, man, that is a
great film. Yeah. It is sensational film. I'll
put that up there with that's easily in my top
five Marvel movies, my top five movies ever.
It's fucking great. And I don't think there was
a weak part of it. Logan. I was about to say,
hang on, that'd be the third one. No, I count
X -Men Origins as an X -Men movie. But then there
was Wolverine or The Wolverine. The Wolverine.
So I'd call that the first. Yeah. And then Logan.
Oh, yeah. Mate. Even just to get it on this list
because it's a fucking great movie. James Mangold
absolutely killed that movie. It had emotion.
It had action. It had story. It was everything.
And just seeing. how much he loved the Professor.
Yeah. It was fucking awesome. Yeah. And I think
recasting Caliban, Stephen Merchant as Caliban,
fucking killed it. Yeah. He was so good. And
getting introduced to Laura Kinney, who, again,
is an unreal Wolverine in her own right. Yeah,
feral little child. Her fucking brutality, man,
when she just walks out holding old mate's head,
I'm like, yeah. Fuck, this is a comic book movie
and she's 12. Yeah. Loved it. Yeah. That's a
massive standout for me. Do you have a top five?
I'll go top five. Okay. So you put it on your
list but then you took it off. Aliens. Yeah.
Obviously, I started this whole conversation
with that. Aliens, it is a great movie. I love
it. It's one of my top three movies of all time,
I think. I watch a YouTube channel called The
Corridor Crew. I think I've mentioned it to you
several times. But they did a deep dive on aliens
and they showed how they did the miniatures.
Yeah. My God. Yeah. Incredible. Very cool. The
way they use force perspective and were able
to push things back but still have detail and
people walking around in the background that
weren't real. Yeah. Insane. Cameron over Ridley
any day of the week for me. Yeah. Speaking about
Cameron, Terminator 2, Judgment Day. He's better
than the first one. It is. I fucking love that
movie. It is Arnold Schwarzenegger's best movie.
Can you tell me what Stroke and XR125 is? Or
an XR80? No, and I don't care. Okay, it's a four
-stroke. Can you tell me how many gears it has?
I'll give you a hint. It's not 31. I'm quite
happy to ignore that for that movie. Do you know
how much Harley -Davidson Fatboy weighs? It's
not a motocross bike. It can't jump off a two
-story building and survive. Sure it can. It
cannot, especially with how much did he weigh?
Was it 470 kilograms? No. Stop it. Listen, that's
the magic of the movies. You can ignore physics
sometimes. Yeah, you're not wrong. Yeah. Okay,
yeah, but I agree. T2 is better than T1. And
it's probably one of my top three movies of all
time. Tell me more. Like it or not, that's what
it's going to be. I'm going to go with 2049 as
well. Thank you, sir. Like as much as I like
the grimy, the dark. kind of feel of the original.
I prefer that neon grit of the second one. The
second one was still gritty. You're right. Still
gritty. Still gritty. But it could be bright
and poppy. Like when they've got the massive
advertisements come up and the reflections of
the pink, green. Great. Fantastic. Yeah. And
like Joe and Joy's relationship is one of my
favourite parts of that movie. Yep. And she's
not even real. He's not even real. Yep. Still
one of the most, like, human stories. I loved
it. Yeah. Fantastic. I'm going to have to agree
with The Dark Knight. Yeah. That Joker, man.
Haunting. It's. And I think it would have been
haunting even if he didn't pass away afterwards.
His ability in that movie to just portray a true
psychopath and not have any fear. He has no plans.
He just wants to see shit burn. You sit there
and you talk about comedy. Not even as a comic
book movie, that is just cinema, dude. The fact
that the dude's in a black rubber suit has no
fucking bearing on that movie. That's a Joker
movie. And he kills it. It's something that.
They're struggling to do in movies these days
and find a compelling, say, villain that you're
actually afraid of, that you would actually fear.
Like Thanos, I just want to throw a Happy Meal
at him and go, here, Grimace, fetch that. You
know what I mean? Yeah, I get that. Seeing him
and the way he just walks out of that hospital
and he's dancing around and then he's just standing
there waiting for it to blow up. I love that
shot. the pyrotechnics didn't go off on time.
Yeah, and he didn't know. He's like, you see
him kind of react. And he stayed in character
and then it went off and it made the scene better.
Dude, killed it. Like imagine if he just walked
off and pressed the button and it exploded. That
there is one of my most hated Hollywood tropes.
Yeah. The blow up, walk away. And he did it in
Wolverine, X -Men Origins Wolverine. He's just
walking away from the explosion. Fuck off. Bullshit.
But the fact that, yeah, that there was perfect.
I think. RIP. Absolutely. I think in number five
I'd probably put Hellboy 2, The Golden Army.
Such a good movie. Gorilla Mail to Toro. I hate
to use the word underrated because he's not underrated
at all. Yeah. But he should be getting. When
he was trying to make Hellboy 3, the studio shouldn't
have even questioned that. They should have just
said how much do you need and when do you want
to do it. Yeah. Him and Ron Perlman together
in that franchise, incredible. Yeah. Why did
you even hold that back? No idea. But then they've
greenlit these other shit. The one. David Harbour
one. David Harbour one. He was good as Hellboy.
The movie was shit. The last one they made. was
one of the most Z -grade garbage fucking Sharknado
movies I've ever seen. It could have dead set
been done by the asylum. Yeah. It was just bad,
terrible. Yeah, the Golden Army just stepped
it up compared to the first one. The dark elves,
that dark fantasy kind of imagery in it. I even
love the little story where they've got the shadow
puppets and that and they're telling the story
of it. Mm -hmm. Just a beautiful movie, man.
Yeah. So good. The night market scene. Yeah.
With the troll at the beginning and just the
curios and weird creatures in that night market.
And it was all practical. They were all puppets
and animators, not animations, but like animatronics.
Yeah. People in costumes. It was just so well
done. Yeah. It had like a very kind of dark studio
Ghibli type feel. Yeah. brought to life and just
you could reach out and touch that world just
by looking at it. And there was another thing
with the Hellboy, like it was Abe Sapien and
Red were all practical. Like they were there,
you could touch them. And it was, I don't know,
I know that Guillermo del Toro wanted to make
an Abe Sapien movie and they wouldn't give him
the rights for it. Again, why not? Give this
man the rights. So he went and made another movie
called The Shape of Water. Beastiality, yeah.
But, dude. Hey, he won awards for that movie.
Fantastic movie. It was fucking weird, but it
was - So weird. Why does she want to fuck a fish?
But so good. It was a good movie. Yeah. And beautifully
shot. I don't know why he doesn't get - Pan's
Labyrinth, fuck off. Yeah. What was that something
manor that he did with the Crimson Ghost? Crimson
Manor? Yeah, that looked fantastic. It wasn't
the greatest story, but it looked great. Tom
Hiddleston in it. Yeah. It was guaranteed hit.
Why does this bloke not get greenlit more shit?
Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. Great director. I would like
to see him get this Universal monster movie thing
off the ground. Again, why does he need to try?
Just give him the money. Yeah. If you can't watch
their movies and not come out of it and be changed
in some way, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah,
no. He's definitely an artist when it comes to
making movies. Yeah. Is that your list all done?
Yeah. That was your five. Fuck. I don't know.
I think we might wrap it up there. Sweet as.
See everybody again in another week. And we'll
talk about. the movies and shows that Jeremy's
told me to watch. Yes. We'll probably have two
episodes of Daredevil to catch up on again. But
anyway, like I said, always ask some questions
in the comments, guys. Tell us what you'd like
to see, what you'd like to ask us, and we'll
see you next time. Love, peace, chin, grace.