Take two. From the dungeons of Morningstar, I'm
Clint. And I'm Stretch. And this is Prevailing
Strange. So I'm going to start off by saying
we're terrible podcast hosts at the best of times.
We start talking about stuff outside of this.
Yeah. So it's sort of cutting our conversations.
Well, I mean, I think we can still talk out our
ass. I think we can. Well, I can. Well, you can.
I can keep up the slack. First this week, what
do you want to touch on? Where do you want to
start? We'll start with our week in review. Sounds
good. Episode five of Daredevil. Okay. Kick that
off first. Yes, sir. I don't think you were a
fan, were you? No. Which is funny because I was
a fan. I have this, I run into this with a lot
of shows, the side quests. Yep. I don't think
this needed to be there. Right, right. For the
specific reason, he meets, he's going to the
bank and he talks to this bank manager who's
got the tag on it, says Khan on it, and you've
seen, The Marvels. Well, if you're a Marvel fan,
you've seen the Marvels. Yep. So, you know, he's
Kamala Khan's dad. Miss Marvel. So, the fact
that he sits there and starts talking to a stranger
about his daughter and answering text messages
whilst always trying to say, I need some money
to keep my business afloat. Yeah. You don't talk
to, you don't answer text messages in a meeting
to start. No, it was a bit ham -fisted. And he's
like, oh, my daughter, Kamala Khan, and we have
our own superhero, Ms. Marvel. Oh, you know Ms.
Marvel. Come on. You're from New York. He's from
New York. He's heard of Kamala Khan. He hasn't
heard of Kamala Khan, but he's heard of Ms. Marvel,
all right, because that was all over the news.
We assume, yeah. Well, she's got her own Funko
Pop, so of course she's been on the news. Yeah,
true. But, I mean. I know he's blind. But he
can still read it with Braille or he can hear
about it on the – it was just ham -fisted. It
was like, oh, here's some fucking exposition.
Let me feed your face with it. It's like it didn't
need to. So, yeah, I didn't like it. I don't
like side quest episodes. It's funny because
I felt like it's been the closest to the original
Daredevil series thus far in terms of tone and
the way it kind of felt. We didn't have those
BB kind of extracts. It's still taking me out
of it. And I've looked closer at those, and they
are grainier, but it's still taking me out, dude.
I don't want to see that shit. I don't care.
So, yeah, we had that full episode without one
of those. But without Fail, we've had two in
every other episode. Yes. So, interesting, this
episode was the only episode they did not reshoot,
retouch, or do anything with from the first lot
of shoots back in 23. Right. where apparently
every other episode has been reshot or restructured
or reframed. Yeah, right. I didn't know that.
Yeah, that's why it's taken so long to cut me
out. Well, yeah, I honestly, I just kept headbutting
into that. I'm like, were them bank robbers anyone
in particular? Are they, like we know we've got.
Nobody that I know of, but that doesn't mean
they don't tie back to. Yeah, well, you know,
you got in like DC, you've got the suit gang.
I was sort of thinking. I'm running into that.
They all had their own singular colour. Yeah.
And I'm like, I kept thinking that. I kept waiting
for Batman to show up and kick him out the door.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But I don't know.
That episode, it was a very – my favourite bit
was where he smashed old mate's head into the
wall. It was brutal. When he broke his leg. Yeah,
and he just puts that fucking balaclava on. He
just jumps. Oh, yeah. It was quite ironic that
it just happened to be the red balaclava too.
Yeah. Pretty good. What they were after, the
gem. Yeah. Was that just a nod to the Infinity
Stone, the soul gem? Was that the soul gem that's
been cut since it was? Nobody. Well, that's the
thing. The soul gem is like a little teardrop
shape in Vision's head, but. No, no, no, no.
That's the mind gem. The mind gem. The soul gem.
The soul one was at the top. Is the one that
Grimoire. Died for. Yeah, yeah. The one that
Black Widow died for. But it was uncut. It was.
It was in the back of the gourd. Yeah. Big, chunky.
It was the biggest one. Yeah. And it looked,
it was cut. It was like a rectangle shape when
he pulled it out of the candy. It was a rectangle.
He held it up. That's what I mean. This is a
cut gem now. Yeah. Is it the Infinity Stone that's
been cut? Because it would have been the only
one that he would not have been able to return.
because of the nature in which they were to gain
the stone was to give up a life on Vormir, the
planet in the middle of the universe. Yeah, but
to get the stone, do you have to give a soul?
And to give it back, to place it, do you have
to give a soul as well? Because that would be
counterintuitive. Yeah. I'd imagine that. But
why would Cap take them all back? But, dude,
you've stretched me brain with that. Yeah. I
like that. I wish, I hope it is. He time travelled
back in time to places to, he didn't have space
travel, didn't have access to space travel when
he went back. Dude, you're 100 % right. Where
did he get the soul stone from in time, in Endgame?
Where did he get it from? In Endgame it was.
Thanos had it at the start. Thanos had it at
the start, yeah. And then it was Black Widow
and Hawkeye. Hawkeye. And had taken a spaceship
from Rocket. Yeah, to go to Vormir. Go to Vormir,
yeah. Yeah, Cap couldn't have returned that even
if he wanted to. I don't think so, yeah. So it's
been potentially locked away on Earth since 40
-whatever when he disappeared, 45. Do you reckon
that's why they shoehorned that episode in there?
If they're going to go, oh, here's a soul stone
and we're going to bring in Ms. Marvel because
they haven't mentioned her since. Yeah, well,
I mean, anything's possible. Yeah. It could be
a way to contact Foggy, bring Foggy back. Oh,
you fucking evil man. I'm just spitballing. I
really hope they don't bring him back because
that would cheapen it. Well, funny you say that.
We're going to talk about something later on.
But that's, if that. That's made me look at Episode
5 with fresher eyes. Yeah. Again, I didn't like
it at the start, but you might have to go re
-watch that. Yeah. As soon as I saw it, I'm like,
well, that's an interesting coloured gem. It's
about the right size for it. It is. But who did
they say they were getting that for? The boss.
They didn't mention anyone. I'm guessing you're
meant to assume it's for Fisk. Yeah. But. nothing
was said about who it was for. Because I think
he said a name, like the bloke who got his leg
broken, when he handed it off to the lady in
the bank, I thought he said, get this to blah,
blah, blah. I just can't recall the name. But
maybe it is, maybe. Oh, no, it wasn't. No, it's
all right. I thought it was the Irish mob fellow
that we're going to talk about later on, bridged
up at Fiske in his office. And we're going to
call him Fisky for the rest of the episode. Fisky
boy. Yeah, well, they were all Irish. Were they
part of his mob? Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. Time will
tell. Yes. We're jumping ahead. But it's fun
to speculate. Yeah, definitely. As a standalone
episode, I did enjoy it. Right. It didn't, like
you said, it didn't really kind of progress the
plot anything in any way. That's, yeah, the whole
side quest of it all. But, yeah, I didn't like
how they just shoved Kamala Khan in there. And
there's more elegant ways of introducing her
into this series if you're going to. Yeah. They're
all in New York. I did like the punchline, what
kind of lawyer are you? Yeah. A really good one.
Yeah. Or was that the Spider -Man quote? No,
no, no. Yeah. That was in episode five. Yeah,
because he said a very similar line in Spider
-Man No Way Home. Yeah, when he catches the brick.
Yeah, pretty cool little call back there. Episode
five was pretty self -contained. Episode six,
though, which they released them back -to -back.
That was interesting. Because they knew episode
five was going to be shit. But, dude, episode
six brought the fucking pain. Mm -hmm. We got
to see a whole lot more of Muse. I like that
his graffiti isn't just red. I love that he's
blending the blood with pigment and colour to
make his artwork. I love that he's covering over
it with epoxy too so he can't fucking wash it
off. His mask, I fucking love it. It's very homemade.
I love the silver staples. Yeah. I love the blood
from his eyes. Dude, I'm just all there. I'm
all in. Very cool. Very edgy type of character.
The first time you see him in his graffiti, the
two chicks were, hey, are you a muse? Can we
get a photo? And he's like, yeah, all right,
I'll give you a photo. And then he released the
photo. I was glad to see Angela in it again.
I want to see more of, like you said, she progresses
into being the White Tiger. If she does. Yeah.
Yeah. It'd be good. Like giving her that backstory
and why she wants to be against all this evil
shit. Yeah. I like it. I did like that they kind
of tied White Tiger to Muse because it wasn't
really evident that he was tracking down a serial
killer. Yes. Yes. And then Angela's come in and
kind of said, you know, he thought something
was going on. He was tracking down all these
disappearing people. Yeah, that was cool. Really
cool. That motivation for Matt to finally put
on the cowl again. Some of my favourite in this
series anyway, like Born Again, some of my favourite
beats are in this episode. Him fighting Muse.
And seeing how fast and powerful Muse is, tick.
And then seeing how he just lets the devil out
and he's just screaming at the top of his lungs
after he's beaten the snot out of this bloke.
It did seem like a very cathartic thing for him.
Oh, dude, yeah. And the way it paralleled. Fisk.
Fisk. Going back and forth between the two and
just seeing him fucking, yeah. When he brought
the axe in, I'm like, oh, he's going to chop
these kind of pieces. And he's like. Here's your
tool. And I'm like, oh, let's go. There seemed
to be a very kind of, like I said, cathartic
expression through. I kind of interpreted Matt
as a bit of a pain that he was going through.
He kind of. Real conflicted. Really conflicted.
Yeah. Doesn't want to do this. We've seen him
praying a fair bit in this one. Yeah. But he's
doing it because it needs to be done. Yeah. And
then you see Fisk, on the other hand, seem to
revel in it. Yeah. He seemed quite pleased at
the end of the whole process. And just like it's
little touches like to show his power and show
that how just much of a badass Wilson Fisk is,
how fast he is. Yeah. So fast. And then just
the way he drags Adam into the cell and just
fucking tosses him like that and it's like you
can still see the power in this man. He's a strong
man. And then when he's putting on that jacket,
the black jacket, and it rips and there's just
a white shirt under it, it's like, oh, it's going
to come out. Yeah, that's it. I think there's
going to be a progression where, because he looks
quite small compared to what he has in past incarnations.
Incarnations, thank you. You're welcome. Yeah,
I think he's going to progressively grow in size
as he kind of takes on that kingpin demeanour
kind of persona again. Well, like even Vanessa
says, this jacket doesn't fit you. And I'm like,
no, it doesn't. Give him his fucking white suit
back. That fits so well. And I just can't wait
the day where he just walks out of the shadows
and he's wearing that white suit and just beats
the bricks off some prick. Yeah, I was. Very
happy with that episode and the way all of a
sudden, yes, we've got the suit back again. Whether
he doesn't don it for another little while or
whether that's it, he's dipped his toe in, he's
in it for good now. Well, there's another new
suit. I did see different colours. Did you see
the black one? Yeah. And it's got the DD on it.
And the silver one. Yes. It'll be interesting
to see. Whether they're nods to his past, because
it's been seven years. Yeah. Since the last series.
Whether they're just nods to arcs that he's had
in the past because he wasn't standing idly by.
I don't care. Like, I just don't want to go back
to the Black Ninja suit. Like, I know that's
where he started and it was very street level
and stuff like that. But it's just. I don't connect
that with Daredevil. I connect the yellow suit
with Daredevil more than I do the ninja suit.
And I know, you know, going back with the hand
and all that sort of stuff, that's where he initially
was taught all of his, you know, martial arts
training in that. And Stick teaching him all
that he shit. And I know it's like an homage
to that, but I just don't, I'd be glad never
to see that again. If you've got that many suits
in the lockup. Yeah, he doesn't need the other
one. Tertiary tracking's in the bin, mate. We
did get to see a little bit of the swordsman.
Yeah. Yeah, and then he showed up again at the
fundraiser. Yeah. He's a funny character. Dude,
real funny. Even in, like, I thought he was a
villain when I watched Hawkeye. I thought he
was just a villain mobster sort of thing. In
this one, it seems that he is a vigilante. Like,
he helps people because there's, like, film clips
of him taking our bad guys and shit. But he was
quite – didn't take a backward step when he was
talking to Fiske. No, he did not at all. Yeah.
Be interesting to see what happens, whether that's
it, just that nod towards the Hawkeye series
or whether we'll see something else later. Well,
I've never really read any book with the swordsman
in it. He's a pretty – kind of old bygone character
now. He was bigger back in the 60s and 70s, I
think. Yeah, right. It's just one of those little
nods. Well, I'd like to see a nod where Fisk
maybe pulls his arms off. That'd be cool. Sword
fight with those. Yeah. Now swing your sword,
you pussy. And, yeah, just rip his arms off.
That was a good sound. Thanks. Yeah. The Billy
Club getting used more. All for it. Just seeing
in his fight with Muse where he's like slinging
it here and there and it's like using the grapple
function sort of thing. Yeah. And the fact that
you do see Muse's ability to circumnavigate Matt's
hearing at the end when he's on the ground and
then he wasn't. Yeah, it just disappeared. I
like that. I don't need to be fed everything
straight away. Drip feed me this. Keep Muse around
because he is a good villain, dude. And if you've
killed 60 people already, approximately 60 people.
Yeah, so you're not slowing down. If this is
the long arc and, like, it's Matt going down
the road trying to find potential victims or
victims of Mews and then there's this massive
showdown at the end, I'm all for that if that's
your season one arc. Yeah. Because there's still
going to be that bigger arc with Fisk. I did
read something about John Barenthal. Returning
as well. So. Am I about to make some money? Am
I about to make some money? I mean, yeah. I am
happy that he's coming back. Oh, as you should
be. Yeah. I spoke out of turn, I guess. Mm -hmm.
Yeah. The young lady who played Jessica Jones
has been very vocal, saying that she would be
very excited to get the call up. Mm -hmm. What's
her name, Rita? Kristen Rita. Kristen Rita. Mm
-hmm. So she was like, oh, I'd be very excited
if they call me up, I'll jump at the chance to
play Jessica Jones again. Thoughts? I think she
was fantastic. I loved Jessica Jones. That series
was good and I'd liked her as Jessica Jones.
I don't think she would have spoiled it to say
that she is going to be in it. She might pop
up yet. Yeah. Honestly, I could have given and
taken Jessica Jones. I really liked her. Mr.
Purple. Mm -hmm. He was a great villain for that
series, I thought. Yeah. But, yeah, Daredevil,
I hope it keeps going the way it is. I could
have given or taken Episode 5. Episode 6 pulled
me back in. But, yeah, I'm really excited for
Episode 7 next week. Yeah, three more episodes
till the end of Season 1. So we've got some things
happening. At least we didn't have to wait until
the end of season one to see him in the Daredevil
suit like I thought we might. Yeah, you've been
so wrong. Do you really want to watch this guy?
I'm happy to be wrong. I just, you know. Yeah,
absolutely. I've been let down before, so I was
prepared to be let down. I've been hurt before.
So, yeah, we can talk about Dungeon Crawler Carl.
We've both been – I was a bit – I'm hesitant
after that first book, so I'm like, oh, fuck.
It was weird and confusing. And then I started
listening to the second book, and I'm like, okay,
all right, let's keep going. Old mate's voice
still gets me in the crunk here. But I'm looking
forward to where he's going in this whole thing
because it's getting more and more exciting as
he gets down the levels. Yeah, it definitely
is. It's progressing quite like I expected it
would. There's a very linear power grade to these
types of books, but it's fun to listen to. It's
definitely a very sandpit kind of feel for the
authors in these kind of realms. They come up
with things that will trip their characters up,
but then they just happen to get this prize from
a loot box, this power up somehow. That just
happens to be the right thing to do. Just this
constant thing. But I think that they kind of
need to do that because it's released on that
royal road to begin with. Yeah. They're releasing
like a chapter a week. Yeah, right. Or a chapter.
Oh, right. Yeah. And so that's why it has a very
kind of. Episodic. Yeah, not even. It just seems
to pick up where the last book left off. Right.
There's no time skip or anything like that. It's
just bang, straight back into the action. And
that's how, that's why they're pretty easy to
kind of read back to back. Yeah. And it was like
that first book, I think I had a two day break.
And then I'll jump straight back into it and
I'll listen to it in two days. Yeah. The third,
the relationship between Donut and Carl continues
to charm me. Yeah. And, well, he's there, he's
a manager now, but he was their guide. Mordecai.
Mordecai. Yeah. Formerly the rat. Yeah, he keeps
popping up. Yeah. Every level he changes. But
they had that couple in the first book, the one
that their kid died. She's getting powered up.
And the thing when, like you said, they get loot
boxes and that. The thing that I wish it was
more RNG. But it's not. It's literally dictated
by the directors, producers and the sponsors
of the show. Yeah. I wish it was a bit more RNG
because like in the chapter I just read, they
held back after that big cataclysm bomb, they
held back an elite loot crate. Yeah. No, what
was it called? Celestial. Celestial. But then
the AI. Yeah. Gave them the goods. Yeah. Oh,
you're not up to that yet. Yeah, I am. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, pass that bit. Sorry, you are. That's where
they got all the coupons for their space. Yep.
Yep. I think, yeah, we're pretty much up to the
same spot. Yeah. The AI in it with his obsession
with Carl's feet is fucking hilarious. Just some
of the shit he says too is fucking hilarious.
And the voice that he puts on for it. New achievement.
And then when he's talking about his feet, killing
with his feet, he gets creepy, man. When he stomps
on our mate's head, there's a golem whose head
he stomps on. And then the next one, new achievement.
And he's just sitting there and he starts breathing
heavy and shit. And I'm like, you creepy prick.
Sick fuck. It's just shit you don't get out of
reading a book. Genuine laugh out loud moments.
Yeah, dude. That's why I like it. It's funny
you say genuine laugh out loud moments, and there
are a few in these books. It's not – going back
a few episodes, we were talking about horror
books. I've never gone in a horror book. That's
right, yeah. Ever. But there's – Literally, there's
another book I read called, don't read it, listen
to Expeditionary Force. There's 16 books in it.
Legit, dude. Nearly every chapter there's a laugh
out loud moment because, again, an AI is a cheeky
arsehole and he just rips shreds off humans.
It's hilarious. I do like this book's nod to
Dungeons and Dragons and a lot of different creatures
and even like Donut's magic missile. A couple
of different spells. I'll cast a magic missile
everywhere. That's pretty fun. But I do like
this overarching kind of element of him saying,
you know, you're not going to break me. You know,
he's plotting the downfall of these people that
are putting. these people in this situation.
Even though no one's ever made it past the 13th
level, he's Perth? Perth. Past. Past. There we
go. Like in the history of this game, like thousands
of years, no one's ever gone past the 13th level
and he's like, no, that's my single goal, to
get past the 13th level and fuck these bugs up.
Yeah. Yeah. When I'm listening to it too, because
he's an ex -Marine special, blah, blah, blah.
Coast Guard. Coast Guard. Numbering. Let's wipe
that out. So, like, he's a Coast Guard guy, so
he's fit, he's healthy, he's large. I can only
picture Jack Reacher. With no pants on. No, dude.
A couple of episodes ago in Reacher. Oh, God,
here we go. He was wearing a towel. You could
see shaft. It was bulging. And I'm like, that's
my fucking Batman right there. So, yeah, this
week's pop culture news, the stuff that's piqued
our interest this week. Can we leave the big
news till the end? Okay. Because I've got some
things to say about a certain someone who sent
me a certain picture. All right. There's a new
Thunderbolts teaser trailer that's just come
out. Haven't watched it? Haven't watched it.
Haven't watched it? It looks pretty good. It
starts off with Louis Dreyfus's CIA director.
Yep. What's her name again? I've got it written
down here because it's Valentina. Go. Valentina
Allegra de Fontaine. Yep. Who is the director
of the CIA in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Yes, sir. Starts off, she's saying he's stronger
than all the Avengers combined. In reference
to Bob's entry? Yes. Let's go! And he's soon
to be known as Earth's Mightiest Hero. Ooh, Thor
might have something to say about that. Well,
that's a nod to the tagline for Earth's Mightiest
Heroes for the Avengers. Yeah, yeah. And it's
kind of set to these. shadowed pictures of the
sentry kind of floating above the city, which
we've seen touches of in other ones, but we're
seeing more of that. And then you hear Pullman's,
the sentry reply, why would a god take orders
from anyone at all? Maybe I need to show you
what I'm really capable of. And then that's when
you see the hand gesture and people. Dude, if
this is what they're showing in the fucking trailer,
we all know that Marvel don't show shit that's
important. Yeah. If this isn't what's not important
to the story. What's going to happen? What the
fuck's going to happen? Because every trailer's
been different. Yeah, yeah. It's giving you a
different vibe on what's going to happen. This
is a movie I held no hopes for at all. I just
saw her to be another black widow. I didn't like
American Agent. I thought he was a piece of shit
and his ears look far too big in that helmet.
I could give or take the new black widow. I thought
she was funny in Hawkeye. She was refreshing
in that. Black Widow, I just thought she was
a sport little brat that should have shut her
mouth and stayed out of it. The Red Guardian
is hilarious. I'll watch him in anything, dude.
His Hellboy movie, he was the best part of it.
So, yeah, I love Bucky Barnes. Don't get me wrong.
I don't like Senator Bucky Barnes, but here we
go. They're going to wrap that up in a nice little
parcel. Yeah. He's the White Wolf, the bloke
who's killed hundreds of people, who's now our
congressman. Well, he did save the universe,
or help save it. Yeah. So they won't give him
a pass. Maybe. As you were saying about Yelena.
Yep. Yelena? Yelena. The Black Widow, the new
Black Widow. Yeah, when she was in Hawkeye, fun,
funny. Yeah. And then Black Widow. But the thing
is, the Black Widow. One. Was before. Was before
him. Yeah. Yeah, and she was working for somebody
in Hawkeye, wasn't she? I can't remember. It's
been a minute since I watched that. No, she wasn't
working for somebody. So she heard that Hawkeye
killed a sister. That's right. And she was going
after Hawkeye. That's right. And then at the
end, she's at her sister's grave and the Fontaine
come up to her and said, hey, I've got to put
a team together. That's right. Yeah. I think.
what's going to happen in this, and I've been
proven wrong with Daredevil, but I kind of gauged
pretty right with Captain America. I'm thinking
that the CIA have a super soldier program. Yeah.
The Sentry is going to be their product of that
program. I think what's going to happen is they're
going to introduce him. That's what the whole
kind of court. procedural thing is them getting
the kind of go -ahead to implement him as Earth's
new mightiest hero. He's going to be like a CIA's
kind of controlled weapon, basically. Winter
soldier. Kind of. And that, I think, is what's
going to go wrong, is whatever they've got over
him to keep him in control is going to send him
over the edge and start being all genocidal.
Well, Killing people left, right, and center.
Okay. So if they shit the bed with this, with
the Sentry, can you remember when they introduced
Adam Warlock in - Yeah. Right? And then you see
him in Guardians of the Galaxy 3. Yeah. And whenever
he opened his mouth, I just - wanted to turn
the TV off because they made him into an infantile
moron. Adam Warlock, he is the bloke who took
out Thanos, the most powerful Avenger that ever
lived. At that point in them books. Now, why
are they going to give us every couple of years,
are they going to give us a new Earth's Mightiest
Hero every time they bring out something, just
a retcon, an ability? Well, I mean, Adam Warlock
is in space. He's not on Earth. Yeah. But the
thing I like about the Sentry is he's nerfed.
He's not like Superman. He is capable of great
things like Superman, but... Well, Marvel's already
got their own Superman, haven't they? In the
Eternals. Yeah, Hyperion. Well, Hyperion isn't
in the Eternals. That's... Played by the Stark
guy. Yeah. I figure what he's... No, he's dead.
He flew into the sun, remember? At the end. Oh.
Yeah. Fair enough. Hyperion in the characters,
in the comics is up there power level wise, but
Sentry is pretty much the strongest being on
earth. Right. I'm pretty sure. But he has this
issue. He's got agoraphobia. He has this dark
side of him. He kind of. He's mind -wiped everyone
and himself in the past to kind of not be out
in the public eye and stuff like that. Just because
he's so powerful, they just don't want him to
be there always on call to fix all these problems,
whatever. So there's a good chance that they're
going to have some kind of mental control on
him. Whatever it is is going to go wrong. I'm
thinking the Thunderbolts are going to be like
serving. I think they're going to be working
off a certain amount of time for their crimes.
Suicide squad, isn't it? And they'll just be
like a task force that's kind of there to back
up the Sentry because the Sentry is just going
to take care of whatever needs to be taken care
of. Right. And they're going to be like. So you
don't think the Sentry is going to be a sort
of villain in this? Yeah, I do. I think he's
going to go bad. Right. But I think it's going
to be a mental thing. I think he's going to snap
and just go dark. Again, so I don't take orders
from you. Yeah, so I think whatever's going to
happen, it's going to come to a T. They're going
to be out doing some kind of mission. He's going
to snap. They're meant to be there as backup,
but they're like back against the wall. We're
going to do something about this. We can't do
something about this. We just got guns, right,
right, right, but they're going to fucking pull
it off somehow. Right. Speak to his inner humanity.
Maybe. And obviously. Give him some magic mushrooms
and calm down the void. Obviously there's going
to be some kind of resolution because, as you
mentioned before, he has been cast. In what?
In Doomsday. Yes. I sat there and watched the
feed roll through of the 25 actors that will
be present in Doomsday. I tried to not. see this
and I wanted to get a raw reaction from you.
Yeah, that would have been nice. And then a former
friend of mine who watches the podcast sent me
a picture. Naughty boy. So I seen the cast. I
was blown away by the cast. Oh, yeah. Got some
questions. Why are they putting Ian McKellar?
And the other guy, what's his name? Patrick Stewart.
Patrick Stewart. Yeah. Why are they putting them
in this movie? They're 80 years old. I know.
It doesn't have to be the final X -Men that are
introduced. No, no, no. But what are they going
to do? Go visit a fucking nursing home and change
you some bedpans for these fuckers or what? Because
at the end of the day, man, you could have put
McAvoy and All Might in it. I mean, I will wait
and see what happens. No. Well, I mean, I think
it might be some kind of changing of the guard.
They might be using the old X -Men and we might
get McAvoy and Fassbender in the future. I'm
going to smack myself upside the head for that
because I am really glad to see James Marsden
come back as Cyclops and I really hope they fucking
let him go. Yeah. I think he deserves it. He's
always been second fiddle and pussy, but he's
always been the leader of the fucking X -Men.
Yeah. Give him some leadership to do. Don't just
have him as a pining little boy who's crying
after Jean Grey all the time. He's a fucking,
he's an Omega level superhero. He can dead set
wipe out a planet with his fucking beams. Let
him run right. Give him his blue fucking suit,
dude. We know it works. Put him in that blue
suit. He's earned it, dude. Let him go. Ian McKellar
and Patrick Stewart, you know, they're our Professor
X and Magneta. I was quite happy to see those.
I'm happy. I want to see him in his yellow chair
again like we did in Doctor Strange. Yep. If
it's the Illuminati line and they're just, I'm
okay with that. There's some other massive stars
returning. Thor's coming back. Now this here
for Thor. He's got to be the longest and most
serving Marvel hero to date. Am I wrong? MCU?
Yeah. Yeah, because fucking Hugh Jackman took
that. Yeah. MCU. Most definitely, yeah. He said
he would play this character until he dies. Until
he dies. Yeah. And I'm more for that. He is like
Hugh Jackman. I can't – I hope that there's other
actors as Wolverine because I don't ever want
Wolverine to stop being in movies. Yeah. But
Hugh Jackman, even though he's 6 '6", or 6 '3",
or whatever he is, I don't give a shit because
no one's going to be 5 '3". It's basically like
an Oompa Loompa running at you with claws. We've
seen that in Deadpool. It's not domineering.
He's not, you know. So I'll just run through
a few of the names. Let's go. You're going to
get my live reaction, Jeremy. Yeah. Yeah, we've
got Chris Hemsworth as Thor. Vanessa Kirby as
Susan Storm, Invisible Woman. Anthony Mackie
as Captain America. Yeah. Sebastian Stan, Winter
Soldier. Yep. I'm going to love seeing them two
back together. Hell yeah. Letitia Wright as Shuri,
Black Panther. Paul Rudd as Ant -Man again. Fuck
yes. Love it. We've got Wyatt Russell as US Agent.
Tanok Yota, Mel Miara. Namor. I can't do that
last name. Huerta. Huerta. Huerta. Sorry. Evan
Moss, Backrack is the thing. Nice. We have Simu
Liu, which is Shang -Chi, which would be good
to see. I enjoyed Shang -Chi. Dude, he needs
more. He needs another movie. Really does. Him
and Awkwafina together were charming as shit.
They need another one. Florence Poe, is it Poe?
Poe. Elena, Black Widow. Kelsey Grammer back
as Beast. Let's go. Man, when he popped up at
the end of the Marvels. I was. Sick. I cheered.
Yeah. I cheered. And he looked so good. Yeah,
he did. It's not very often that I will champion
CGI over a practical effect, but I think Marvel's
MCU has got it down pat with like, I mean, while
some of the Hulks have looked average, you've
got Green Hulk in Ragnarok. Epic. Epic. The Red
Hulk in Captain America. Still some of the best
CG to date. The Thing looks sick. So good. Yeah.
And Hank McCoy as Beast at the end of Marvels
looked awesome. Yeah. Looked more like Beast
than any other Beast we've ever seen. I agree.
I agree with that. Keen to see that. Lewis Pullman
is back as the Sentry. So obviously he survives.
Well, and he's with some of the Thunderbolts
as well. Potentially survives. Who knows? It's
the multiverse. They're doing some weird things.
I'm going to come back to the multiverse of it
all in a minute. Mm -hmm. Danny Ramirez is back
as the Falcon. Yep. He was funny as fuck in Captain
America. Yep. Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm, Human
Torch. David Harbour as the Red Guardian again.
Winston Duke as M 'Baku. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
And then John Carman as Ghost. Tom Hiddleston
as Loki. Dude, again, I'm not even mad. No. I
love that he lost out because he went for Thor.
Yeah. And a better Loki again. I couldn't have
picked one. Yeah, absolutely. He's just nailed
it. Then it went on to, because I'm doing these
in the order that they read them out. Oh, yep,
yep, yep. Sweet. Then it was Patrick Stewart
as Professor X, Ian McKellen as Magneto, Alan
Cumming as Nightcrawler. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
He was one of the best characters. Yeah, he was.
I didn't mind the Nightcrawler in the later movies,
in the new one, but he was, dude, so good. Rebecca
Ramjin as Mystique, which I was pretty happy
to see her come back. Yeah. James Marsden as
Cyclops. Channing Tatum. Yes, dude. I'm going
to be interested to see whether he rocks up and
they're just going to have him in the fold as
in that universe he's always been as part of
that fold. That's going to be interesting to
see what happens there. Absolutely. Then it was
Pedro Pascal as Mr. Fantastic. And then Robert
Downey Jr. walked in at the end. What do you
think this was all? I don't know what that. Oh,
yeah. I mean. What are you shushing, bro? You've
just shown everyone's at home wiping the semen
off their chest. Like, they already know. Yeah.
I mean, it was all over social media straight
away. That's why I'm not on it. Yeah. Then. But,
yeah, it's quite the lineup. I've read that Chris
Evans, Steve Rogers, is going to make a cameo
in Fantastic Four. But Matt Shackman has made
it very clear that they are the only heroes on
their earth. So at the end, well, in the trailer
of Fantastic Four, you see that ship taking off
and blah, blah, blah, and we all see Galactus
at the end. You think he's going to inhale that
earth and then they're going to make their escape
and then Franklin makes a portal from the womb
or something maybe. Yeah, well, that would be
pretty interesting if they'd just come from a
defeat. Yeah. Straight into. Exactly right, dude.
Very infinity war. They lose. Yeah. I can't see
an issue with them losing in first steps. No.
I think that will rock a lot of people that don't
know what's going on. Absolutely. Yeah. A lot
of people are going to be like, if that is the
case. Yeah. Yeah, that will rock a few people.
I think so. Starting it off with a loss. Yeah.
Because, yeah, they're apparently in the movie.
They've been active for a while. They're not
just. It's not an origin story, which is, yeah,
going to be interesting. Now, it's been, how
long has it been since Black Panther 2? Two or
three. Two or three? Yeah. Now, when we, you
know, you can see time jumps and that over a
certain duration. They introduced T 'Challa,
his son, in Black Panther 2. Would you rather
see Shuri? Now, she's been Black Panther. It's
on the list. They didn't say it. She says Latisha
Wright on the chair. Now, whether she's going
to be a Black Panther in Doomsday. No, I'm happy
to see her as Black Panther again. You are? I
don't want them to rob her of that. Just because
of the situation, everything's gone down. Yep.
I think his son's too young. We're not going
to have that much of a time skip. But I do look
forward to seeing the tension between her and
Namor. Oh, yeah. And this is the thing, too.
I think I'll have to re -watch Black Panther
2. I don't know what happens at the end of that.
I can't remember. Which is pretty sad because
I should fucking remember that. She pretty much
kicks his ass. is the bigger person at the end
lets him go. Right. So you reckon this is where
we're going to get the hero turn from Namor and
it'll be a bit of a conflict between them two
fighting on the same side? Yeah. Well, I mean,
he's always been a hero to his people. Yeah.
Kukulkan. Kukulkan, yeah. Yeah. He doesn't give
a fuck about the land dwellers. Yeah. But it's
going to be a worldwide crisis. The whole world's
going to be at risk. He'll be down for the fight.
I think Namor, even in the comics, he's always
been like a very standoffish in his alliances
with other heroes. I don't think anything's going
to change there. Sweet. Now, is Doomsday a book?
Is this going to tap into any? Any stories that
we know of? I think there's so many threads that
they could be pulling from, so many different
stories. Yeah, I don't know what they're going
to do. Now, on this little podcast I used to
listen to, I don't know if anyone's heard of
it, it's like Joe Rogan Experience or something.
It's a little podcast. I'm giving my shout out,
everyone. Tune in to Joe Rogan Experience. Anyway.
He had Tony Stark. He had Tony Stark. Robert
Downey Jr. Tony Stark, yeah. Yeah, all right.
So he had Robert Downey Jr. on there. And he
literally said, would you ever come back? And
he goes, dude, wouldn't you feel cheated if I
came back? Yeah. How do you feel about Robert
Downey Jr. coming back to the MCU? And pitch
me how you would want him to come back, knowing
that that farewell to Tony Stark doesn't get
much better. Yeah. If he makes us hate him straight
off the bat. I'm all down for it. Let's go. Yeah.
If he's going to be vile, be hateable. Yep. Yeah.
Complete opposite to Iron Man. Yeah, as long
as he has no connection to that Iron Man, like
that Tony Stark, his experiences, that they're
all his own and he kind of had like a fantasy.
Like when he shows up and Morgan goes, Daddy,
and he goes. Jesus Christ. No. Okay. Do you –
are you excited for the fact that the MCU started
with Robert Downey Jr.? It ended – let's face
it, it ended. Basically. With Robert Downey Jr.
Yeah. Coming into this new era where we're at
a lull with the MCU at the moment because, let's
face it, there's been a lot of misses. Do you
think they're clutching at straws or you reckon
this is – actually a good thing. I don't necessarily
think it's a bad thing. Would have you rather
had seen a different Dr. Derm, a different actor
portraying a Dr. Derm? I would have been quite
happy. Yeah? Man, I would have been ecstatic
if they'd kept it under wraps. Could you imagine
if they just had some dude in a mask, put a little
voice modulation on him or something, put a metal
ring to it to throw everyone off and to have
that reveal? It would have been momentous. Yeah.
Yeah. Do you think it could have been done though?
Do you legit think that you could keep that much
of a thing? Now, I mean, we've seen Marvel and
Disney do a lot of whole shit with the volume,
that big screen that they film in front of. You're
saying they just film all of his scenes and then
add it post? Man, I would have been happy for
him to pay somebody to be playing Doom and have
everybody think it was somebody else. Just voiceover
him in post and then reveal it right at the end,
even to the cast. Like even to the cast when
he, dude. Could you imagine? Yeah. Yeah, right.
Yeah, if they could have done that. Yeah, like
you said, Darth Vader. Have you heard the original
Darth Vader? Terrible. Terrible. You're a traitor
and a spy. Take her away. He was fucking Canadian.
No, he's British, but he sounded like he should
have been a talking head. Yeah. Ah, fucker, fucker.
Yeah. So terrible. Jarring, yeah, to go back
and listen to it. Yeah. And just touching on
that, we may as well go into our rant and sundry
part right now where we're just going to talk
shit anyway. Transition. Sorry. Have you seen
the videos of old mate that was playing Chewbacca,
actually had lines? So when they're talking to
him, they're talking to a fellow that's talking
and all the... and carry on was added in post.
Really? Yeah. Yeah, I think there's a scene where
they're on Hoth and they're working on the Millennium
Falcon. Chewie's on top, Han's on the ground,
and behind the scenes of Han yelling and, oh,
my God, forgive me, Matthew, the big tall fellow
that played. Was it Mayhew? Mayhew, yeah. His
last name is Mayhew? Yeah. He passed away not
long ago. Yeah. R .I .P. Yeah. Him just yelling
back about the conducive and this thing's fuck,
what are you talking about or whatever. Like,
well, it makes sense that, you know, they have
something to bounce off these actors. Yeah, exactly.
And, yeah, just later on they. Chuck in the chewy.
Yeah. Hey, I've got a joke. I've got a couple
of jokes for you. Two drums and a cymbal fall
off a cliff. Right. Ba -doomts. I can tell these
jokes are going to be more for you than me. Oh,
shit. You want another one? Give me. Mate got
crushed by a heap of books. He's only got his
shelf to blame. I think the fact that you're
cracking yourself up is funnier than the jokes.
Do you want another one? Oh, yeah. Why do dogs
float? Why? Because they're a good boy. I get
it. Oh, I get it. Yeah, I get it. Oh, fucking
so good. Moving on from that. Oh, actually. through
the week, I watched Romulus. Oh, did you? Yeah,
yeah. Dude. Dug it? Yeah. Last 15 minutes can
stay in the fucking coloring room floor as far
as I'm concerned. That didn't need to be seen.
Yeah, it was a fucking weird. Just stop it. Stop
it here. The worst part is it was an actual dude
in a suit. I know. That's his shape, man. Like,
what the fuck? No, just no. Yeah. Just no. Cutting
room floor exists for a reason. I know because
you cut like 90 % of the funny shit I say every
week. Funny or offensive, we'll leave it up to
you. Just fucking leave that. Didn't need to
see that at all. They reckon they're going to
make more. More for it. Look, the fact that it
was connected but not connected, fine. Give me
more of that. Give me more alien stories. What
was the synthetic guy's name? Denny. Denny. Andy.
Andy? Andy. Toy Story, there you go. Andy. Dude,
that dude, man, so expressive. Holy shit. Dude.
And to play like a non -expressive kind of character,
just the way his face changed when he flipped.
Exactly right. He was like a kid in the first
like. half an hour of the movie. And then when
he gets the implant changed around, it was like
a completely different actor was cast as that
role. Yeah. Insanely well done. Different posture,
the way his face just morphed. Even in his eyes,
you could see it in his eyes. Yeah, it did. Yeah,
it was fantastic. The one I watched was the director's
edition. So they, you know, you got the synthetic
who was cut in half, giving you some exhibition
halfway through. Did you run into issues with
the mouth looking a bit two -dimensional? Well,
apparently the whole thing looked worse, and
they went through and touched it up a bit. But
I think the xenomorphs in this were the best
I've ever seen. Just the detail in the biomech
was incredible. Yeah, those facehuggers were
skittling around. They were practical effects,
dude. Yeah, they were little fucking remote -controlled
cars. Yeah, they were sick. They were fucking
sick. Yeah. I really, really, really enjoyed
it for the first time in a long time. You know,
some of these ones that have come and gone, they're
just not memorable at all. I love the whole slap
in the face when she goes, why would you leave
them behind? Why would you? She asks Andy, like,
why would you? How could you do that? How could
you? And he's like, what? Leave somebody behind.
And then the realization was like, oh, I was
going to do that to you. It was like, fuck yeah.
Yeah. I liked that. On planet side, that was
all shot in an old quarry. Nice. So all practical,
tent set up and shit. One of the best shots I
think for the film was where the Romulus is sort
of decaying into the rings of the planet and
it's just, you can see it's big clumps of ice.
Yeah. And it's just like going through a cheese
grater. Some of the best visualisation I've seen
for a space crash. and it's sort of coming down
and just getting shredded as it's going down.
But then when the other ship's coming over the
top, you can see they're sort of moving at the
same speed. So it gives a lot of scale and a
lot of, like, you can sort of see speed when
it's literally a two -dimensional image on a
screen. I'm interested to see what this alien
Earth that's coming out is going to be. Yeah,
right. Yeah, so it's based on Earth, obviously,
by the name. I think it's set just after Romulus.
Because that was after Alien. It's set before
Alien. Right. Set before Alien. Before Ripley.
Yeah, before they've gone out looking for. Yeah,
right. Or after Prometheus. Was Romulus after
two or was it after one? One. So it was after
one and then Aliens. So it kind of covered up
the loophole of why. When she got off the, in
Alien, the ship was called, almost had it there.
Anyway, when she blew that ship up. Yeah. I wanted
to say Lenovo. No, that's the planet. Yeah, the
loophole of how she was meant to be going back
to Earth after blowing up the freighter. Yep.
And then she randomly gets picked up outside
of Earth's kind of. jurisdiction. Yeah. No, that's
right. Yeah. By these scrappers and the time
that had changed. So, yeah, she'd been picked
up. She was on Romulus and it was when it went
down that the scrap, that's where they found
she'd been hiding, they'd been hiding her and
the sample xenomorph on this space station for
a long time. Right. Yeah, so they've kind of
retconned that a little bit. I like it. Yeah.
See, they did the same thing with Rogue One.
Still one of my favourite Star Wars stories of
all time. Oh, yeah. Holds up. You knew that,
you know, them Bothans weren't going to get off
that planet. You knew they were all going to
die. But I was fucking invested. Yeah. From the
opening credits till the closing credits, dude.
It was a great movie. Absolutely. And just. Filled
that hole. Filled a hole. Yeah. I don't need
to have three movies of a Senate told. Mm -hmm.
That little one story was epic. In my opinion,
the best instalment in the Star Wars universe
with Andor close behind it. Yep. Depending on
what this second season does, Andor could overtake
that. Right. But I still think, yeah, Rogue One
is. Rogue One was so good. Yeah. Even like how
they elaborated on the hallway scene with Darth
Vader coming through. Yeah. Fucking brutal. Made
him actually posing. Yeah. A badass. Yeah. Instead
of just walking in after the stormtroopers have
missed every fucking shot. Yeah. But yeah, I
was, they're going the right way about the Alien
franchise. Like they've just, they're filming
Badlands at the moment, which is the sequel to
Prey. Mm -hmm. Prey I thought was tits. I still
haven't watched it. I don't know why I haven't
watched it. Mate, it is absolutely incredible.
The story's amazing. The actors are amazing.
And when you see the predator. Because he's a
more primal predator. He's a very primal dude.
Like he's wearing a bone mask and he's, you know,
all of his technology is very primitive. And
you can see the evolution of it. So to see him
come up against the Xenomorph, the Xenomorph
would have just wiped the fucking floor with
him. Yeah. Because he's not that imposing. He's
not that powerful. He's not that fast. He doesn't
have all the tech. But you bring, show me that
evolution of the Predators and then have them
go back to the homeworld where they're fighting
fucking the Xenomorphs. Dude. Yeah. Retcon. Reboot.
Do this shit. I'm all for it. But just don't
– because the originals are always going to be
there for us. They're not going anywhere. That's
right. It's funny, as big a fan as I am of the
Alien series, I've never really been a massive
Predator fan where a lot of people take them.
I was the other way. Yeah, right. I was the other
way. So I was a massive Predator fan and it wasn't
until – because at the end of Predator 2, Denny
Glover's on a Predator ship and there's a – There's
a xenomorph's head. Yeah, the skull. And you're
like, fuck's that? And then I watched Alien after
that. So Predator led me into Alien. And then
when they started doing like fucking AVP and
shit, I'm like, oh, yes. And then I watched it
and I'm like, fuck, no. Just, yeah. But Predators,
the one with. Adrian Brody. Yeah. I enjoyed that
one. I enjoyed it. I like the fact that it explained
what a predator was. Yeah. Because up until that
point, you didn't understand what they were.
They were just killing machines. But no, they're
a race who have, they've got tradition. Yeah.
They're very Native American and that sort of
thing. Like you go out into the wilderness, you
earn your stripes, you go hunting, you learn
to be a man, come back, tell us what you've learned.
Yeah. I liked it. Yeah. So to see that more with
Prey and Badlands and that, yeah. There's infinite
stories you can tell with that sort of storyline.
Yeah. That's one thing I've always kind of wanted
to delve into is the comics and the backstory
and the lore of all that. Just never got the
time to do it yet. Yeah. I don't think I've ever
read a Predator or Alien comic. I reckon it's
pretty rich, the lore for their, I want to say
Utani, but that's the name. Alien. What was the
name of the race, the predator race? U-thai? U-tai?
U-tai? Yurik-ai is an... Fuck, how do I know that?
It's an Uruk-hai. Uruk-hai. Why do I know that?
That's Golem. You're trying to emulate Golem.
But anyway. Yeah. I think on that note, we might
end it here. Sounds good, boss. Yeah. Thank you
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