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From the Dungeons of Morningstar, my name's Stretch.

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And I'm Clint.

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And this is Prevailing Strange.

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So this week we will probably touch on Fantastic Four, which we missed out on talking about

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last week.

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We did get a bit carried away last week, mate.

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We did.

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But that's alright.

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I like how you've edited out a lot of that show because yes, we could have kept talking.

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We could have kept talking.

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We're also going to talk about Daredevil.

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Yes.

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I got around to watching the first two episodes last night.

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Same.

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Same.

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And we both read a book or listened to a book this week.

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Yeah.

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And we'll talk about that in a bit.

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First steps.

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Oh, there you are.

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Good segue.

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Yeah.

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So your initial thoughts on the trailer?

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Rate it out of five stars.

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Man, I'm not going to go rating trailers.

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Probably because I have a bias for trailers.

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I really enjoy trailers.

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So yeah, I think that goes back to a nostalgic thing.

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Do you remember the trailers that used to be on, the beginning of an overnighter?

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Hell yeah.

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A video easy or blockbuster?

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Especially not some, booted up.

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Egg sucking gutter trash.

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I do remember that.

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Hasta La Vista.

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Baby.

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And they're like, you wouldn't steal a car or you wouldn't download everything.

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You can literally 3D print a car now.

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You can.

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Yeah.

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I mean, as a first look at the trailer, yeah, I'm not going to disparage anything straight

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away.

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But it's a bit jarring the look of the setting.

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I think the setting of it's going to go back to America Chavez and Doctor Strange hopping

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through them dimensions.

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Hopefully it's a different dimension.

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It's not just, they're going to like.

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Well, the tech that we've seen is nothing like the main universe.

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So it will have to be a different universe.

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So it has that very kind of future sci-fi.

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Like Jetsons.

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Retro sci-fi is what I was thinking of.

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Yes.

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Retro sci-fi look.

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That spaceship with the three prong kind of taking off.

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There's nothing like that in the normal Marvel universe.

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And that's the visuals of it.

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I absolutely love it dude.

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As soon as I've seen the thing, I'm like, I'm in.

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Perfect.

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I'm in.

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Best looking thing so far.

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Matt Schachman, who's the director of it.

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He's had his finger in a lot of the Marvel TV shows.

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WandaVision.

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I believe he'd had a big part in that.

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And him being off of this director's role sort of thing.

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I think he's going to do great with things with it.

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He's been a guest on a couple of other podcasts that I listened to.

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And it's specifically he wants that comic accuracy and that whole.

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When he was talking about the Fantastic Four, the vision he's got for it is literally the

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family, whole family aspect of it.

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That is cool.

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I like what he's trying to do with it.

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Speaking about family, looking at the first trailer, it looks like Susan Storm might actually

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be pregnant from when you first see her in the kitchen.

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Dude, I've seen the cut.

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It's only a couple of frames of blinking.

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You'll miss it.

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And she does look a bit.

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Like they didn't edit from front on, but as soon as she turned, they edited her belly

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So I think we might see Franklin in it.

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Well, there is some, you can see in the back of the story, the board that Reed Richards

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work and all, when he's writing his calculations and shit.

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There's actually a nod to Franklin up in the top left corner.

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I think it was.

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Right.

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It actually says Franklin Reed Richards.

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I might miss that one.

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That'd be cool.

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That would be cool.

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Interesting, because he has an interesting power set, whether that comes to fruition,

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maybe that's how they get to the main universe.

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Well, wasn't he one of the main antithesis?

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Is that the word?

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I don't know.

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I didn't do it really well in English.

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I think that's a word you're going for.

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Battle world.

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He had a massive hand in getting that whole universe done.

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I believe so.

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Because his powers are altering reality.

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I believe he had some part to do with that, yeah.

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Which will be the return of the directors from the last two Avengers movies coming back

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to do Doomsday.

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Yes, sir.

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Which is where we will presumably see Battleworld.

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I think with them too, as soon as they were slated to be the directors, I was all in.

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Because you have a look at their Slay from the Marvel Universe, Civil War, Winter Soldier,

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Endgame and the third Avengers movie, Infinity War.

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All bangers.

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Bangers.

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That Endgame, that final sequence was one of the biggest sequences you've seen.

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To be in charge of Doomsday and have that massive cast that's for sure going to have

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to be there.

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But yeah, Fantastic Four looks great.

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It does.

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So we've got Pedro Pascal coming in.

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Pascal?

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Pascal, yeah.

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As Reed Richards.

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Fen.

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Vanessa Kirby.

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That's her.

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Yes.

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As Susan Storm.

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We have Joseph Quinn as-

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Dude, he's charming as shit in everything that he's in.

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He was great in Stranger Things.

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He was, yeah. That last scene where he's on top of the caravan dude.

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Still gives you goosebumps.

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He was in another movie, the Quiet Place prequel.

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Yeah, he was, wasn't he?

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Very different character again.

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He was a bit of a Weasley bloke and scared of everything, but still played it well.

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I'll watch it.

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And playing the thing is Eben Moss' back rack, I think it is?

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He played Micro in the Punisher series.

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So he did too.

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He did, yeah.

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Yeah, I didn't think about that.

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Yeah, so he was Micro on the Punisher series.

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Now that's been confirmed that they're both in the same universe.

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However, if this isn't a different universe straight up, the Fantastic Four, does Micro

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and the thing meet up later on?

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Probably not.

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There's been a few actors that have played multiple roles in the universe before.

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That's no strange thing.

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I loved him in The Bear.

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I haven't seen that.

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And he was in the first season of Andor.

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Yes.

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He's got chops.

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Yeah, I like him.

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So he says something in the trailer, he's like, I'm the most handsome member of the

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team and I'm like, Pedro Pascal's way hotter.

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Pedro Pascal is hot.

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He's a good looking man.

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Oh yeah.

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He gets better with age.

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He's like 35.

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He's 35.

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Could be.

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Julia Gardner or Garner?

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No.

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Julia Garner is coming to play Silver Surfer?

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Dude, as soon as they said they were going to have Galactus, I'm like, who are they going

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to cast the Silver Surfer?

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Is it going to have Laurence Fishburne's voice again?

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Probably not.

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It'd be hilarious.

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But it would be interesting to see what kind of accent she puts on because two of her characters

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from Ozark, if you watch that.

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Yeah, right.

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Yeah, she's got a real Southern accent.

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Ruth, I think I believe the name of the character was.

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And she was in that Inventing Anna where that con artist and she played like, she had like

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a Russian, German kind of mishmash accent in that.

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Well, so you're only in there.

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I'm only really versed with the Norrin Radd version of the Silver Surfer.

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Same.

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So I've never really, I don't know what Silver Surfer she's playing.

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I think she's just a gender bent version.

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Of Norrin Radd.

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Yeah, right.

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Because God knows I got crypto wrong last week.

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I think he was actually made on, crypto on.

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Well, we can't always be right.

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And John Malkovich in an undisclosed role, potentially Dune.

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Do you bring in John Malkovich to play a bit part or do you bring in John Malkovich to

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steal the scenes?

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Yeah, like he's not a small time actor.

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No, God no.

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And the fact that it's undisclosed.

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But then again, have you ever seen Hitchhiker's God of the Galaxy?

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Yeah.

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He's in that for all of 10 minutes.

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That's true.

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And it's just a bloke who blows his nose on stuff.

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He might just be there for shits and gigs.

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He could be there for shits and giggles.

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I'm going to put my money on the fact that he's going to be that universe of Doom.

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Even though they've cast Robert Downey Jr., as Doom, we're in talking about the multiverse.

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There's no guarantee that he's going to be the only Doom.

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All right.

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I've got a theory.

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Galactus is in the trailer.

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He's freaking massive, which is what we want.

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You don't want like an apocalypse version of Galactus.

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We don't want a cloud version.

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Greenland flashbacks.

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Jesus.

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I think at the end of this movie, Galactus is going to inhale the planet that they're

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on.

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Franklin's going to have something to do with it because Franklin in one of the comics was

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able to actually teleport things from the womb of Seustorm.

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Now, if that happens and that galaxy is demolished, then that goes that Dune as well.

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It could be Malkovich's Dune.

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That'd be interesting.

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It will be.

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Yeah.

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Anything is on the table.

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Any cards are on the table.

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Any tables are on the cards.

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Yeah.

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Just whatever.

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Yeah.

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I'm excited for it though.

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Yeah.

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No.

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I'm actually seeing a Fantastic Four.

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I love it.

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It's a guilty pleasure movie, the original Fox Fantastic Four.

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The two, the Silver Surfer and the original one.

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Guilty pleasure is a shit.

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And the nostalgic factor too.

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Yeah.

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He's in a foam outfit.

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It works for the time.

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The Josh Trink one.

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That was woeful.

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It wasn't everyone's like, oh, how did he have a black kid?

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I don't even run into that.

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The fact that he had a white daughter and a black son.

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I didn't even run into that at all.

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That didn't faze me at all.

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That movie was just terrible.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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I mean, the thing did look impressive, but he wasn't the thing from Marvel.

268
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No.

269
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Not at all.

270
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I really wanted to like that movie because I like Miles Taylor.

271
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Same.

272
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Michael B. Jordan.

273
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Dude.

274
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Great actors.

275
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Could have been something.

276
00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:59,200
Well, Josh Trink's other movie before that was...

277
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Chronicle?

278
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Chronicle.

279
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Yeah.

280
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Fucking dark and evil as shit, dude.

281
00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,200
Yeah.

282
00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,200
I liked it.

283
00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,520
That was, it's a bit of a cult classic.

284
00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,520
Absolutely.

285
00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,000
But to go from that to Fantastic Four was a massive downgrade.

286
00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,000
Yeah.

287
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He bombed.

288
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Hard call.

289
00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,680
But I actually think he come out and he goes, I will never work for another big studio again

290
00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:23,560
because they micromanage everything, which is something that Zack Snyder has also said.

291
00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:24,560
Yeah.

292
00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:25,560
That's true.

293
00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:28,720
The big studios just go, we want this, we want that.

294
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And they have to go, yes sir.

295
00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:33,960
Well, I mean, look at Marvel with Feige.

296
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He'd be managing a lot of things and that has not been to the detriment of those movies.

297
00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,200
Not at all.

298
00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,080
I think you just need the right person in charge.

299
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Yeah.

300
00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:51,280
Well, seeing that's a thing, Feige's had this vision up until COVID lockdown and then they

301
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all went to TV series and shit.

302
00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,640
I think that's where they lost the plot.

303
00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:04,680
The Marvel TV has, I think that's what's alienated a lot of people that are interested in it

304
00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:09,560
because now you've got all this additional homework of subpar TV shows that you've got

305
00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:13,600
to watch to catch up on the movies you're excited for.

306
00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,600
Yeah.

307
00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,640
I like the visuals of WandaVision.

308
00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,200
The story was just dragged onto it.

309
00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:26,000
It felt like I was on the slowest ride possible.

310
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And then you had Secret War, which was just trash, man.

311
00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,960
There was not a redeeming quality in that.

312
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And there should have been.

313
00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,600
I haven't watched Harkness yet.

314
00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,640
No, never have I.

315
00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,000
I don't know whether I will.

316
00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,120
I didn't finish the second season of Loki.

317
00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,720
Loki wrapped it up nice, man.

318
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I'd say you go watch that.

319
00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,280
Just social media spoiled it for me.

320
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I saw what happened.

321
00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,280
Absolutely.

322
00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,280
I need to watch it.

323
00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,800
I don't want to watch the majors no longer in the universe.

324
00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,360
I don't really need to see whatever happened there.

325
00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,240
They'll tie that up however they do.

326
00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:07,640
Loki and Sam, or what was it called?

327
00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,640
It was Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

328
00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,520
And then it became Captain America and the White Wolf.

329
00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,520
Is that what they changed?

330
00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,360
I don't even know if they changed it right at the end.

331
00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,360
I'm not sure.

332
00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,240
But I know it was, I think the last episode was, yeah, instead of the Falcon and the Winter

333
00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,520
Soldier, it was Captain America and something.

334
00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,040
But yeah, he was called White Wolf when he was in Wakanda.

335
00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,040
Yeah, I think so.

336
00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,600
He was called the White Wolf.

337
00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:31,600
Yeah.

338
00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,600
I'd like that show.

339
00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:33,600
Although that was cool.

340
00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:34,600
Yeah.

341
00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:42,240
Well, I mean, just to see Bucky and Sam, I wish Bucky played a bigger part in Captain

342
00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,240
America.

343
00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,240
I couldn't, mate.

344
00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,240
He was a congressman.

345
00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,280
He had to go do some political shit just before he jumped into bed with a heap of criminals

346
00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,280
and murderers.

347
00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,000
Well, we'll see what happens next.

348
00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,480
The man who killed over 300 people is now your congressman.

349
00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,600
That is Ross became the president in that same universe.

350
00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,160
So you know, yeah, good point.

351
00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,280
Speaking about new movies coming out, have you seen the trailer for Mickey 17?

352
00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,480
Dude, yes, I have.

353
00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,400
I'm a sucker for an original sci-fi movie.

354
00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,400
Yeah.

355
00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:16,880
I'm pretty keen for this.

356
00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:22,840
It's very, very day after tomorrow.

357
00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:23,840
The Tom Cruise movie.

358
00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:24,840
Yeah.

359
00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:25,840
Yeah.

360
00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,520
But it just looks hilarious.

361
00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,120
And like everyone goes, Rob Pattinson and the sparkly vampire.

362
00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,320
Dude, I don't give a shit.

363
00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,280
He's one of the fucking top tier actors of our gen.

364
00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,280
Dude has chops.

365
00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,280
Has chops, man.

366
00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:43,040
He has not been in a movie where I was like, it's like Daniel Radcliffe.

367
00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,280
You don't think Daniel Radcliffe, oh, he's Harry Potter.

368
00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,760
It doesn't matter the shit that he's in after Harry Potter, unreal.

369
00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,160
And he's not pigeonholing himself to movies that are going to win him awards.

370
00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,280
It looks like he's just having a shit ton of fun being an actor.

371
00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,880
I think Robert Pattinson just wants to distance himself from being a sparkly vampire.

372
00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:02,880
Yeah.

373
00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:03,880
I don't blame him.

374
00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:04,880
I wouldn't either.

375
00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,320
But dude, he could have not worked for the rest of his life.

376
00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,640
He would have been set.

377
00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,520
But the fact that he's going out and doing all these like, Mickey 17 looks like a romp.

378
00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,520
It does.

379
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,160
Hilarious romp.

380
00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,280
Directed by the fellow that did Parasite.

381
00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,280
Oh, dude.

382
00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,080
I haven't seen that yet, but I've heard good things.

383
00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,080
Bong Joon-Ho.

384
00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,440
I believe that's how you pronounce it.

385
00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,440
Yeah.

386
00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,440
It's fantastic.

387
00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:32,800
You've seen Parasite?

388
00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,800
Yeah.

389
00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:34,800
Sensational.

390
00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,800
Yeah, right.

391
00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,280
Because it was a Korean movie first and then they remade it for American audiences, didn't

392
00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,280
they?

393
00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,280
No.

394
00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,280
No?

395
00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,280
But they were awarded in another language.

396
00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,280
Oh, subtitle.

397
00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,280
Yeah.

398
00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,280
I'm going to have to give that a watch.

399
00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,280
Yeah.

400
00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,280
He also did Snowpiercer.

401
00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,680
I love that movie.

402
00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,680
That was a cracker.

403
00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:59,680
And that animated film, Okja, about the pig looking thing.

404
00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:00,680
Yeah.

405
00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,680
I haven't watched that yet.

406
00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,680
Me neither.

407
00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,680
I think I might do a go.

408
00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,560
It's the father and kid who find the little alien thing.

409
00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,240
Oh, no, no, no.

410
00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,240
That's C-17.

411
00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,240
It's the same bloke who died in Kung Power.

412
00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,800
Oh, no, Kung Power.

413
00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:16,800
Kung Fury.

414
00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:17,800
Yeah.

415
00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:18,800
That's not good.

416
00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:25,800
No, I think it's an animal that's been grown in a lab and it escapes and a little kid finds

417
00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,800
it.

418
00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,800
Visually, it looks fantastic.

419
00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,800
Very relatable.

420
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,800
Yeah.

421
00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:30,800
Relatable content.

422
00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,800
Yeah.

423
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:32,800
Yeah, I'm excited for it.

424
00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,800
And a decent sized cast.

425
00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:34,800
We're still talking about Parasite, yeah?

426
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:40,600
No, Mickey 17.

427
00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:48,320
Well, yeah, there's multiple versions of Robert Pattinson, which I'm always easy to look at.

428
00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,760
Steven Yeun, isn't it?

429
00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:52,760
From Walking Dead.

430
00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,760
Oh, yeah.

431
00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,760
The Voice of Invincible.

432
00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,760
Yeah.

433
00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:56,760
Toni Collette.

434
00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,760
Oh, yeah.

435
00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,760
The Hulk.

436
00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,760
I'm blanking on-

437
00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:00,760
Which one?

438
00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,760
The Avengers one.

439
00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,760
Oh, yeah, yeah.

440
00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,760
Yeah.

441
00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,760
Ruffalo.

442
00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:05,760
Fucking us.

443
00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:06,760
Edward Norton.

444
00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,760
Yeah, well, there was Eric Banner.

445
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:08,760
There's been a few of them.

446
00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:09,760
Yeah. Lou Ferringo.

447
00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,760
Yeah, that probably wasn't fair for me to say.

448
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,760
Jesus.

449
00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:12,760
The latest Hulk and not the red one.

450
00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,760
I was about to say Harrison Ford.

451
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,760
You arsehole-

452
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,760
But hang on.

453
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,760
Circle back.

454
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:17,760
You mentioned Invincible.

470
00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,760
Yeah.

471
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,960
And then the young bloke Jack's been into me.

472
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,900
Like, If you watch the Invincible, No, I haven't even watched Season Two yet.

473
00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:41,300
And he's like, just hating on me for some reason.

474
00:18:41,300 --> 00:18:45,500
Last night, he came out and he's like, Oh, there was the biggest five ever.

475
00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:46,500
You know, micro pleased.

476
00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:47,500
Didn't talk to me about it.

477
00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:48,500
I want to watch it.

478
00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:50,040
So every time he walks out, he's like, have you seen Invincible?

479
00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,540
And I'm like, no, I'm like-

480
00:18:52,540 --> 00:18:55,540
And you can see nearly- his head's nearly exploding cuz all he wants to do is talk about

481
00:18:55,540 --> 00:18:56,540
it.

482
00:18:56,540 --> 00:18:57,540
I'll get around to watching.

483
00:18:57,540 --> 00:18:58,540
Yeah.

484
00:18:58,540 --> 00:18:59,380
I've only watched the first season.

485
00:18:59,380 --> 00:19:00,380
First season?

486
00:19:00,380 --> 00:19:01,880
Yeah, was.

487
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:07,880
I've heard that, well I've seen a lot of things where they're bagging on the animation in the third season.

488
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,880
Yeah, right.

489
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:22,880
But, I mean, they've got the actors that they've got like J.K. Simmons, Stephen Yeun, and a whole lot of other names I can't remember right now voicing characters in this.

490
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,880
Massive cast.

491
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:32,880
If the story is good, the actors are good, the animation doesn't need to be sensational I guess. As long as on some key points we have a bit more.

492
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,880
All you've got to do is look at some massive titles that have had, you know, subpar animation.

493
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:46,880
Like, and I'm going to mention a show here that you've been begging me to watch for the last few months. Fullmetal Alchemist. It's not the best animation.

494
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,880
Shut your mouth.

495
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,880
Hey, no, everything about that show is great.

496
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,880
Well, the animation looks shit.

497
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,880
You look shit.

498
00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:05,880
But no, I'm sure the show is amazing. But the version I was watching, it looked like it was on VHS. So that could have been a skill issue.

499
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,880
Yeah, that could have been your fault.

500
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,880
Definitely sounds like a skill issue.

501
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,880
So we've both been reading a book in the past couple days?

502
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,880
Listening, yeah.

503
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,880
Listening, yeah. I mean, I say reading all the time, I listen to HBO bullshit all the time.

504
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,880
I know, Ali pips me all the time. I'm like, oh, I've read this book. No, you know what, you lazy prick, you're listening to it.

505
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,880
Because I'm a tattooist, I can't very well just read and do a tattoo.

506
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,880
That's right. I'm a machinist and, you know, I don't want to dirty a book, so I'll just listen to it.

507
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,880
Exactly.

508
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,880
For a little bit of background, what kind of books do you like in general?

509
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:43,880
Usually sci-fi. I love sci-fi.

510
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:49,880
I've tried to, the thing that I used to listen to when I was tattooing was just True Crime podcast.

511
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,880
It just got too heavy. It just weighed on me too much.

512
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,880
So I've sort of gone down the path of sci-fi as well.

513
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,880
Unbelievable stuff that's going to take me out of the norm.

514
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:08,880
I don't want to listen to anything that's happening three hours down the road where someone's being injured or hurt or maimed or anything like that.

515
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,880
So I sort of go, space travel. Yeah, fuck yeah.

516
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,880
An escape from reality. Yes, dude.

517
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:21,880
So The Bobiverse, one of my favorites. Ready Player One, amazing.

518
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:28,880
The Martian, fantastic. In case you haven't noticed, the majority of these are narrated by R.C. Bray.

519
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,880
He's my favorite narrator of all time.

520
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaking about The Martian, it's written by Andy Weir and he has another book called The Hail Mary Project

521
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,880
that's actually been turned into a movie now as well.

522
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,880
I believe Ryan Gosling is the main character.

523
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,880
That's another sci-fi I'm interested in seeing.

524
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,880
The book is sensational, man.

525
00:21:52,880 --> 00:22:01,880
I was watching a movie with Adam Sandler and not long ago, Spaceman I think it's called, and it's just him in the spaceship with another spider thing.

526
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,880
But it's vastly different to that one.

527
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,880
The book Hail Mary is amazing. Absolutely amazing.

528
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,880
So I'm excited to see it. And I'm a massive Ryan Gosling fan at the moment.

529
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,880
I bet you are.

530
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,880
Can't do no wrong.

531
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,880
Yeah, no, it's a great book and the audiobook was a great production too.

532
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,880
Yeah.

533
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,880
But yeah, I really enjoy Andy Weir's writing.

534
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:35,880
It's easily digestible for a guy that writes very scientific.

535
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,880
Yeah, very factual and mathematical accurate as well.

536
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,880
But in a way that the layman can understand it quite well. Yeah, sensational.

537
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:50,880
I've found myself re-listening to those two books, The Martian and The Hail Mary Project, multiple times.

538
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,880
I can see how that would be a comfort read.

539
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,880
Easy. And ready play one.

540
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,880
There's not many books that I will re-listen to or re-read.

541
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:06,880
Genuinely, generally, I tend to listen to something new or read something new forever.

542
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:12,880
I'm not the type of person to re-watch or revisit things too often.

543
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:18,880
Yeah, I'm very different. I'll probably listen to ready play one probably 20 times.

544
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,880
It doesn't get better.

545
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,880
It doesn't get better?

546
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,880
No, it doesn't get any better.

547
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,880
It doesn't get any worse?

548
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,880
No, it doesn't get any better than ready play one.

549
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:27,880
Oh, right.

550
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,880
Jesus, man.

551
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,880
I mean, you're right.

552
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,880
They could be taken both ways.

553
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,880
I think I read it first and then I'll listen to it.

554
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,880
I'll listen to the version read by Will Wheaton.

555
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:46,880
Yeah. He does a version of The Martian as well, which I didn't find as easily digestible or as fun to listen to as the RC Brae version.

556
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,880
It's funny because I believe that's the one that I listened to was the Will Wheaton one.

557
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:51,880
Yep.

558
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,880
And I had no problem with it.

559
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,880
Yeah.

560
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,880
But yeah, it was fun.

561
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,880
Book wise, I agree.

562
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,880
Sci-fi, great.

563
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,880
Horror, to break it up a bit.

564
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,880
And then fantasy.

565
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:09,880
And fantasy tends to be a long slog because I tend to pick up big long series.

566
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,880
Yep.

567
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,880
But yeah, I'm not a nonfiction person at all.

568
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,880
No.

569
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,880
I can't stand biographies.

570
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:31,880
Listen, the nonfiction that I do listen to, it's usually narrated by, what's that British guy's name?

571
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,880
Stephen Fry.

572
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,880
I will listen to that bloke read out the dictionary.

573
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:42,880
He's got his own books out called Mythos and another one out called Heroes.

574
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:48,880
And it's like based on Greek mythology, Greek heroes, Greek gods, all that sort of stuff, how they became.

575
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:55,880
And I listen to that, but also listen to him do Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy till the cows come home.

576
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,880
He also...

577
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:58,880
The Harry Potter series?

578
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,880
Harry, I was just about to say that, dude.

579
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,880
You picked it right out of my brain.

580
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,880
The Harry Potter series, man.

581
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,880
He nails that.

582
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:14,880
And what really does it for me with a narrator is the fact that they're not taking you out of the story.

583
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:22,880
The book that I've been listening to in the last couple of days, every time he talks, I think it's Patrick Warburton.

584
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,880
Joe, out of Family Guy, talking to me.

585
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,880
And it takes me out of it a little bit.

586
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,880
And it just takes me a little bit to get back into it.

587
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:37,880
But Stephen Fry, R.C. Bray, if you listen to them do any book, it sells you on Audible.

588
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,880
I believe you've had a couple of guys that listen to Lord of the Rings.

589
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,880
Did you try the Andy...?

590
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,880
I did. The Andy Serkis one was the one that actually got to get through.

591
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,880
There was an older one on Audible that was done.

592
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,880
And it was so terrible.

593
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,880
I believe I've listened to that one, yeah.

594
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:02,880
But the same dude who... it's not the same dude, but the same reason why I can't listen to all of Jack Reacher's books on Audible.

595
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,880
Because it's all narrated by the same dude.

596
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,880
And he talks like this all the time.

597
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,880
And it's just so monotonous.

598
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,880
Yeah. Listen, narrators are...

599
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,880
It's a fine line.

600
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,880
Yeah, it is. They're gold.

601
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:23,880
When they're good, when they're bad, it can really drag a book down.

602
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:33,880
There's a series that I was reading, Warhammer series, called Gaunt's Ghosts.

603
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,880
Thoroughly enjoyed it.

604
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,880
Kind of not really my normal type of listening or reading.

605
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:45,880
But the first 11 books were read by a narrator named Toby Longworth.

606
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,880
Great. Listened to 11 books of him reading to me.

607
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,880
Most of the books would go for about anywhere between 8 and 13 hours.

608
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:04,880
So it gets to book 12, Salvation's Reach, I believe it is.

609
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,880
The book is literally twice the size of any of the other books.

610
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,880
And they've changed the narrator.

611
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,880
Piecing me off.

612
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,880
Man, and he didn't even try to pronounce some of the names the same way.

613
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,880
He just completely changed it.

614
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,880
I'm really hoping that there is a petition out there.

615
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,880
I have signed it to get Toby Longworth to finish the series, man.

616
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,880
It irked me something fucking bad.

617
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,880
That's why this other series I listen to, Expeditionary Force,

618
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,880
there's 17 books out of it at the moment.

619
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,880
And it's all narrated by R.C. Bray.

620
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,880
And I'm like, if they change the narrator halfway through this shit,

621
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,880
I'm probably going to riot.

622
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:54,880
So the Wheel of Time series I listen to, all 14 books, it was pretty good.

623
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,880
It had two narrators, but it was a male and female,

624
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,880
from the male parts and the female driven parts.

625
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,880
I like that with the Sandman book.

626
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,880
I know F the author right now,

627
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,880
but the people who done the audible original,

628
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,880
it was almost like a TV show was happening in your ears

629
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,880
and your eyes were just closed.

630
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,880
A BBC production?

631
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,880
Foreign voice actors and sound effects and stuff like that.

632
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,880
It was really well done.

633
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,880
I did His Dark Materials.

634
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,880
It was a BBC production.

635
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:40,880
It had Professor Xavier, the young one, James McAvoy,

636
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,880
which I actually believe is in the TV series too.

637
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,880
It had a full cast and it was great.

638
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,880
I like that sort of thing.

639
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,880
Did you ever listen to the Batman series on Audible?

640
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,880
I did not.

641
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:08,880
Dude, the bloke who plays, he's in Us and he plays Umberco in Black Panther.

642
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,880
He voices Duke, I think his last name is.

643
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,880
I can't remember his name.

644
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,880
Yeah, I think it's Duke.

645
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,880
But he voices Batman.

646
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,880
Seriously good.

647
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,880
He's got some massive acting job and his voice is so good.

648
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,880
He's got the base.

649
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,880
You'd have some gravel too.

650
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,880
I imagine he'd be a pretty good Batman.

651
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,880
Great Batman.

652
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,880
The latest book we've been listening to is something that you're probably not used to reading.

653
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:42,880
I've read a couple of series in this kind of genre or subgenre.

654
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,880
It's called Dungeon Crawler Carl.

655
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,880
It's been fun.

656
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,880
It's a fun, silly book.

657
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:56,880
It's actually a real good mixture between D&D and Ready Player One.

658
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,880
It's got the technological sort of head up display and all that sort of stuff.

659
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:07,880
So that subgenre is called Lit RPG or a literary playing game.

660
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,880
I thought it was just like Lit as in fucking this game.

661
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,880
It's literally Lit. I don't mind it.

662
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,880
But yeah, there's quite a few books out there at the moment.

663
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:29,880
Funnily enough, this one actually began on a website called Royal Road, which is for fan fictions and original stuff as well.

664
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:40,880
Obviously, it did well on there, well enough that he published that story and went on to obviously have it done on Audible.

665
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:48,880
But yeah, it's very Lit RPG and Isekai kind of esque mechanic to it with that heads up display.

666
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,880
Yeah.

667
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:56,880
It's kind of a, I wouldn't say common, but it's a pretty popular subgenre at the moment.

668
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:02,880
This is the first sort of instance I've listened to someone and it was at your recommendation.

669
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:12,880
And I sometimes finding it difficult to correlate the environment.

670
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,880
I keep fighting myself in picturing the ninth circles of hell of Dante.

671
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,880
And then I'm picturing dungeons as well.

672
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,880
But then I'm also trying to picture because it's the whole earth's been sucked under the ground.

673
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,880
It's like, is everything just underground now?

674
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,880
Yeah, everything's underground. It's a dungeon.

675
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:39,880
It's literally corridors, halls, open areas, all underground.

676
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,880
And as you delve deeper and deeper, that's where things get harder and harder.

677
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:52,880
I know we're only into the first book, but they keep saying that Na'Vi makes it past level 13.

678
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,880
People have started level 13.

679
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:02,880
The thing that's, what is happening after level 13, these aliens have come in and destroyed the planet.

680
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,880
Everything's been sucked underground, and the Wurth's Desol place is going to milk all of its resources.

681
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,880
What happens after that?

682
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,880
Well, I mean, that's what we're going to find out.

683
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,880
That's what's going to drive the story.

684
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:26,880
You assume that he's either potentially going to take on this syndicate that is controlling this game show,

685
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,880
which is basically what this story is about.

686
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,880
Yeah, he's a very running man. Actually, I think they mentioned that in the first...

687
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:39,880
Yeah. I think you'll find that he will butt heads with them a fair bit, try and change shit up.

688
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,880
I'm interested to see where it goes. It's easily digestible, in my opinion.

689
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:49,880
I think you said you found it a bit jarring whenever they went over their stats and stuff.

690
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:56,880
That's something I kind of zone out on because the story happens in between those moments,

691
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,880
and they're going to keep updating you about that anyway.

692
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:05,880
Yeah. Every time he uses one of his spells or he uses one of his abilities, it mentions it.

693
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,880
I just did a scene where I was on a game show and the host gave him a pair of shoes and goes,

694
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:17,880
and he's like, I can't wear shoes because I've got these feet that are impervious and it'll take away from my stats.

695
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,880
So he does reiterate things like that that he may well have forgotten at the start.

696
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,880
But yeah, like you said, it's easily digestible.

697
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,880
I find myself if I pause it and I've got to step away for a bit, when I come back,

698
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,880
it literally takes a few words and I'm back to where I was before.

699
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:42,880
Another series that's ongoing that I've listened to as well, He Who Fights With Monsters,

700
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,880
it's more Isekai, which is a subgenre.

701
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,880
It's when somebody is taken from their home planet and they wake up on another world.

702
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,880
Predators.

703
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,880
I suppose, yeah, or they're reborn into another world and they start again.

704
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:07,880
Usually when they are reborn into that world, it's either their technology or what they know from their previous world

705
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,880
that makes them better than everyone else around them.

706
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:18,880
Or they gain some kind of power, like they wake up in a magical world.

707
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,880
This is very similar.

708
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:27,880
He dies on Earth, wakes up in this other world and he has like a heads up display.

709
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:34,880
He played a lot of games back home and turns out that's his flavor of his magic.

710
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:40,880
He kind of gets a leg up on everyone else because he can see the descriptions for things

711
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,880
where other people have to kind of figure it out the hard way.

712
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,880
Yeah, right.

713
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,880
And yeah, it's pretty interesting.

714
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,880
I think it's up to book 11.

715
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,880
I fucking agree with you.

716
00:34:51,880 --> 00:35:01,880
But it's funny these lit RPGs, they kind of have a real linear kind of power grade to them.

717
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:07,880
The characters, one of the main tropes of them is they're constantly are getting stronger.

718
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,880
Yeah, that's what I'll like as someone.

719
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,880
We've been playing tabletop games for a few years.

720
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,880
We've been on the same campaign of D&D for nearly two years.

721
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:24,880
Mate, it's taken me forever to level up this character and this son of a bitch keeps leveling up every time he encounters somebody.

722
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,880
Well, I blame you assholes for canceling half the time.

723
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,880
Hey, hey.

724
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,880
I never cancel.

725
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,880
No, you are one of the better ones.

726
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,880
Yeah, that's right.

727
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,880
Lee.

728
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,880
But yeah, it's an interesting subgenre.

729
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,880
And this is kind of fun.

730
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:51,880
And like I said, easily digestible like a lot of kind of contemporary series like the Bobaverse that you mentioned earlier.

731
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,880
Yeah.

732
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,880
Yeah, it's.

733
00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:02,880
How do you find being like listening to multiple similar genre books at the same time?

734
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,880
So you've said there's 11 books in that series you were just mentioning.

735
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:15,880
In Dungeon Crawler Carl, there's seven books at the moment, six, seven.

736
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,880
Bobaverse, there was four.

737
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,880
How do you find that?

738
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Five. But there was Bobaverse push that over there because that's awful.

739
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:32,880
But these ones that are lit RPG style books, how do you keep track and separate each story?

740
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:40,880
Well, I mean, besides the fact that they're narrated by somebody else, even if I was reading them.

741
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,880
Yeah, I don't know.

742
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,880
I'm a bit of a daydreamer.

743
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:56,880
I think I have a I'm able to retain certain information about a lot of names of characters and stuff like that.

744
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:02,880
I may forget a lot of other fucking things, but yeah, yeah.

745
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,880
Story world, just any kind of story.

746
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,880
I don't know. I have no issue with it.

747
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,880
I know some people do.

748
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,880
I've heard of people who will be reading a series have to wait.

749
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,880
Yeah.

750
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:16,880
A year for the new book.

751
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:17,880
Yeah.

752
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,880
They will go back either a couple books or back to the beginning.

753
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,880
I have heard that.

754
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,880
And listen to the latest one.

755
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,880
Yeah.

756
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,880
I have no problem with just jumping straight in.

757
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,880
Yeah, right.

758
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,880
Okay.

759
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:35,880
I was because I was listening to two series simultaneously, both narrated by the same dude.

760
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,880
The one was Expeditionary Force and the other one was called Helldivers.

761
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:48,880
Helldivers, both sci-fi, both Earth has been destroyed sort of movies, books.

762
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,880
Sorry.

763
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:56,880
But if I can relate anything to a movie, that's where I'll remember everything.

764
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,880
Yep.

765
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,880
I had a game with an old workmate of mine and she went and made this big playlist.

766
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,880
And it was just a 10 second intro to songs that were from different movies.

767
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,880
And she's like, oh, she'd play it.

768
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,880
And then I have to guess what was wrong.

769
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:18,880
If it's in a movie or it's said in a movie, I can 95% remember it.

770
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,880
But if you say it to me today, anything, I'll probably forget it tomorrow morning.

771
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,880
It's funny.

772
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,880
My wife and her siblings and they are big on quotes from movies.

773
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:32,880
Yeah.

774
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:33,880
No, I've got nothing.

775
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,880
Really?

776
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,880
Yeah.

777
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,880
Quotes are no good.

778
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,880
People say quotes to me.

779
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,880
What's that from?

780
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,880
I've got no idea.

781
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,880
I think you've done this to me a hundred times.

782
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,880
I'm like, no idea.

783
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,880
My wife will say a line and she was like, what's that from?

784
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,880
I'm like, nothing.

785
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,880
Yeah.

786
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,880
See, even if I'm tattooing, like there's a movie playing in the background and I haven't

787
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,880
seen it for 10 years and I just start talking along with the movie.

788
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,880
They're like, huh?

789
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,880
What?

790
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,880
I'm like, oh, don't worry, mate.

791
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,880
I'm just, my backwards brain is going along with the movie.

792
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,880
What are your thoughts on Dundon Crawlicar?

793
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,880
I finished this one.

794
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:14,880
I enjoyed it.

795
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,880
The first book or the full series?

796
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,880
No, the first book.

797
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,880
Okay.

798
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:18,880
I didn't get that stuck in.

799
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,880
Like I said, it's good fun.

800
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,880
It's silly fun.

801
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,880
It's not going to win any literary awards.

802
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,880
I do not believe.

803
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,880
It's probably not for a serious reader.

804
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,880
And when I say a serious reader, I don't mean somebody who reads a lot.

805
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,880
Yeah.

806
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,880
I mean somebody who reads serious tone books.

807
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:49,880
I think I saw somebody had said, oh, you know, this will be for somebody who likes D&D and

808
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,880
role playing games and spooked off about a couple of different books.

809
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,880
I don't necessarily think that's the case.

810
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,880
I reckon you could get into it if you come into it with an open mind, knowing that it's

811
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,880
just, it's a silly fun read and I'll finish it.

812
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,880
I think I've seen this tea before as well.

813
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,880
Like I don't expect every movie to blow my socks off.

814
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,880
Like I'm pretty adept at checking my brain at the door and just going in to be entertained.

815
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,880
I think that's what I was doing with this.

816
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,880
Like after a while I'm like, okay, this is fun.

817
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,880
I can get down with this.

818
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:31,880
It was just a couple of, I think it's more, the whole thing is that the people that he

819
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,880
meets along the way have had their worlds conquered.

820
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,880
So now they're servants of the conquerors.

821
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,880
Are they actually living a full life?

822
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,880
Are they actually, you know, they say, oh, it could be six, seven hundred years between

823
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,880
their cycle.

824
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,880
It's like, yeah, it sounds like they're put into some kind of stasis.

825
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,880
It sounds like a few of them have been around for a while.

826
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,880
Yeah, that is one of the more compelling reasons why I'll probably finish it to see what kind

827
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,880
of happens.

828
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,880
Exactly.

829
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,880
Even when I went and looked at the covers of each of the books, they kind of give a

830
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,880
little bit of a taste, or at least the first one did, gave a bit of a taste of what happened

831
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,880
in the first book.

832
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,880
Yeah, you've got the goblin machine sort of chewing him up and he's only wearing underwear.

833
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,880
Yeah.

834
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,880
And then to look at the rest of them and you're like, okay, I do want to know what's going

835
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,880
on here.

836
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,880
I think it's compelling enough.

837
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:29,880
But at the same time, for me, a lot of the stories that I consume are at work while I

838
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:35,880
get paid, while I'm doing things with my hands that I don't necessarily always have to think

839
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,880
about.

840
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,880
Yeah.

841
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,880
When you're saying about movies, you want to check your brain at the door and whatever.

842
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,880
I don't have a lot of time to watch movies these days.

843
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,880
Exactly right.

844
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,880
To find the time to sit down and watch or go to the movies.

845
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:55,880
So I'm probably more critical of movies for that reason.

846
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,880
Because it's taking up time of yours that's actually valuable.

847
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:00,880
Yeah.

848
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,880
I got that.

849
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:11,880
Even though you've got to pay for these books, they're good, cheap fun.

850
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,880
They are.

851
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:18,880
And yeah, it's like on my way to work, on my way home from work, I've got an hour and

852
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:26,880
a half in the car every day, between 11 to 8 hours, whatever I choose to work for the

853
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,880
day.

854
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,880
That's a lot of time to be listening.

855
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:30,880
For sure.

856
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,880
It makes those times go quicker.

857
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:38,880
And even when they're not so great, it's still good to have that distraction.

858
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,880
Yeah.

859
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,880
So I think I gave it four on Goodreads.

860
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,880
Yeah, right.

861
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,880
And yeah, I look forward to the next one.

862
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,880
See, there's books like this that are fun, but then there's books that I start that I

863
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,880
just have to finish because otherwise I'm just going to throw my phone at the wall.

864
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,880
Majority of Stephen King books are like that for me.

865
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,880
I start them with this hope that it's going to be okay.

866
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,880
They're never okay.

867
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,880
Just they're never okay.

868
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,880
Do you mean like you like them?

869
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,880
No, I hate them.

870
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,880
Oh, I thought you meant like because they always end on a pretty...

871
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:17,880
No, they always end with some minority getting hated on or slapped around or I don't know.

872
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,880
I just...

873
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,880
They never really end good.

874
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,880
No, there's never any...

875
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,880
I don't know.

876
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:30,880
There's one book I really want to read or listen to and that's Dr. Sleep for the specific

877
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,880
reason that I wasn't a great fan of The Shining.

878
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,880
The book or the movie?

879
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,880
Well, they're completely two different things, the book and the movie.

880
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:40,880
Yeah.

881
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,880
Either of them.

882
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:47,880
I didn't really gel with either of them, but the movie of Dr. Sleep is basically the book.

883
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:53,880
Insanely well done and it was a story that will come out of nowhere and I'm like Jackie

884
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,880
Torrance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

885
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,880
Should I watch it?

886
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,880
And then I watched it and I'm like, it's good.

887
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,880
I enjoyed it.

888
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:02,880
I really enjoyed it.

889
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:11,880
I think I had just finished the Dark Tower series and all the kind of... so the Dark

890
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:19,880
Tower is set in his world and pretty much everything he's ever written is connected.

891
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,880
Well, that's like the Castle Rock show.

892
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,880
Yeah.

893
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,880
And now he's bringing out Derry.

894
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,880
Yep, which is the prequel to it.

895
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:30,880
Yeah.

896
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,880
But it's going to have touchings of like Salem's lot and it's going to have little bits.

897
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,880
It's going to pull little bits from everywhere and sort of just he finishes world building

898
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,880
that he's trying to do.

899
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,880
Yeah.

900
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,880
I don't mind that.

901
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,880
It's just...

902
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,880
It was one of the first books I listened to by Stephen King.

903
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,880
Yep.

904
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,880
The 12 year old orgy just doesn't do it for me, dude.

905
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,880
Yeah, that's a bit kind of like...

906
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,880
It could have just been left out and it's been proven because it hasn't been in the

907
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,880
movies and you don't lose...

908
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,880
Where are you going?

909
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,880
That's the only thing that tarnished that book for me.

910
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,880
Otherwise, it wouldn't...

911
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,880
It would have probably been my favorite Stephen King book.

912
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,880
Yeah.

913
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:13,880
Except for that was fucking weird.

914
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:14,880
You love Salem's lot too, didn't you?

915
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,880
Salem's lot has been my favorite so far.

916
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,880
Yeah.

917
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:25,880
I read both of those in that kind of journey of doing or reading the Dark Tower series.

918
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,880
I think there's 21 books that was on the suggested list to kind of read along the way because

919
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,880
characters pop up in...

920
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,880
Right.

921
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,880
...in and along the way.

922
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,880
I feel that.

923
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,880
Yeah.

924
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:48,880
That was an effort and the ending was a classic Stephen King ending just a kick in the guts.

925
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:49,880
Yeah, right.

926
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,880
I think I've started Salem's lot but I haven't finished it.

927
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,880
I'm talking about the entire Dark Tower series.

928
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,880
Oh, yeah, right.

929
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,880
The way it ends is just a kick in the guts, man.

930
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,880
There's 16 books or something now, isn't there?

931
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,880
There's seven Dark Tower books and I think there's 21 books if you want to kind of do

932
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,880
that entire journey.

933
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,880
You don't have to.

934
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,880
So you can just do the six.

935
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,880
You can just do the six or seven books.

936
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,880
See, and that's another thing.

937
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,880
Like everyone's all go, the movie was shit.

938
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,880
I didn't mind the movie.

939
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,880
The movie was shit.

940
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:17,880
Compared to the books?

941
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,880
Really?

942
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,880
Yeah.

943
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,880
Okay.

944
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,880
Well, maybe I'm...

945
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,880
The movie had nothing compared to the books.

946
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,880
It didn't even look the same, feel the same.

947
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,880
Yeah, right.

948
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,880
It just had a couple of characters that had similar names.

949
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,880
Right.

950
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:33,880
Yeah.

951
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,880
And even one of the characters was pulled from, I don't think he's introduced until the third

952
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,880
book.

953
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,880
I'm like, if you're going to make the Dark Tower series, which is being made by another

954
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:44,880
film...

955
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,880
At Amazon as a TV show, isn't it?

956
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:46,880
I believe it's a TV show.

957
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,880
I haven't really looked into it too much.

958
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,880
The fellow that's making it, he made Doctor Sleep.

959
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,880
All right.

960
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,880
Okay.

961
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,880
And he said he's sticking to the source material for good or bad.

962
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,880
And I can see why some people wouldn't like it.

963
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,880
It's a bit of a slog in parts.

964
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Yeah.

965
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,880
But in the end, I think it would be worth it.

966
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,880
I like the characters of the Gunslinger and the Man in Black.

967
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,880
And they call the Man in Black in the stand as well.

968
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,880
So is it the same character?

969
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,880
So he's an entity that has showed up in a lot of things.

970
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:34,880
So the Dark Tower world and the Dark Tower, the Dark Tower is the center and I think he

971
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,880
describes it as a spoked wheel.

972
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:42,880
And from that, they are the Gunslingers, are the protectors of this kind of area.

973
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,880
It's kind of like limbo between worlds.

974
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,880
And they're kind of the ones that protect it from kind of encroaching on each other

975
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,880
or destroying each other.

976
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,880
He kind of gets around.

977
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,880
He's in the stand and in a few other things.

978
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,880
Yeah.

979
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:02,880
Okay.

980
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,880
Because I've read that one too, the stand.

981
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,880
I thought that was...

982
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,880
Yeah, it was good.

983
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,880
It was one of the better ones out of all the books that I read along with it.

984
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,880
Fair enough.

985
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,880
I'll take your word for it.

986
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,880
He has a way with dialogue.

987
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,880
I think that's the big thing for me.

988
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:26,880
His characters seem real, even for their flaws.

989
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,880
And the way they kind of interact with each other seems legit.

990
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:32,880
Right, okay.

991
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,880
I think that's the big takeaway I take from King books.

992
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,880
Like I don't find any of them scary.

993
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:39,880
I've never...

994
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,880
I'm the same.

995
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,880
I've never been in fear or gone, oh.

996
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,880
I've never understood how anyone can be scared of a book.

997
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,880
I've tried all the biggest and baddest horror books that are out there.

998
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,880
It just doesn't.

999
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,880
No, even horror movies.

1000
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,880
Fucking ghosts.

1001
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,880
This place is haunted.

1002
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:02,880
And so you say.

1003
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:03,880
Apparently.

1004
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,880
But yeah, horror movies, I enjoy them.

1005
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,880
I like them trying to scare me.

1006
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,880
The tension, the buildup and all that.

1007
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,880
But I've never once kind of had that feeling.

1008
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,880
Are we going to get back on track?

1009
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,880
I suppose.

1010
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,880
We have this lead from Dundalkor, Kral.

1011
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,880
Books we read.

1012
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:29,880
Horror movies.

1013
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,880
Yep.

1014
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,880
And to hear.

1015
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,880
So I said what I rated Dundalkor, Kral.

1016
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,880
You did.

1017
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:38,880
I did.

1018
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,880
So I watched the first two episodes of Daredevil last night.

1019
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:43,880
Yes.

1020
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,880
I watched it the night before last.

1021
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,880
What were your thoughts?

1022
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,880
Thought it started off all guns blazing, dude.

1023
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,880
I thought, yes, look at this straight into a hallway scene.

1024
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,880
I'm like, this is going to be the shit.

1025
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,880
Spoilers, obviously.

1026
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:06,880
Yeah, but it was straight into that violence that we knew from the Daredevil Netflix series.

1027
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,880
I'm like, okay, they keep the same tone.

1028
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,880
Perfect.

1029
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,880
Let's keep going.

1030
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,880
And then something happened in the first episode, which I was not ready for.

1031
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,880
Now it has happened in the comic books multiple times.

1032
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:24,880
And then it's sort of gone down an offshoot where he's been put into Witzek or he's been.

1033
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,880
And I'm like, okay, what are we going to do?

1034
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:34,880
But seeing the anguish in Matt Murdoch's face when he rips off his mask and he's just screaming on that rooftop.

1035
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,880
Oh, he can hear the heartbeat. He knows.

1036
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:37,880
He knows.

1037
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,880
Like he heard his like, do, do.

1038
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,880
And then you just see that scream and it's like, that's his family.

1039
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,880
That's his best mate.

1040
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,880
That tore me hard out seeing that.

1041
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,880
And I wasn't ready for that.

1042
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,880
Not in the first freaking episode.

1043
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:01,880
I was going to say that as you said that they have died in the comics before.

1044
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,880
This is not uncommon, not uncommon grant.

1045
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,880
I had actually expected it to happen some point during the Netflix series.

1046
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:10,880
Yeah.

1047
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,880
Didn't.

1048
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,880
I was kind of expecting it to happen this season, one or the other character.

1049
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:18,880
Yep.

1050
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,880
Didn't expect it in the very first scene.

1051
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,880
I was like, okay.

1052
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,880
The first seven minutes of the episode.

1053
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,880
I mean, it makes sense.

1054
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,880
Well, it's in the title in a born again.

1055
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,880
So it's like, we're going to see the death of dead and then we're going to see him reborn.

1056
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,880
It has to be some kind of catalyst for the change.

1057
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:37,880
Yeah.

1058
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:38,880
For him hanging up the cow.

1059
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:46,880
So I'm interested to see how close this is going to be to the Frank Miller comic run.

1060
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,880
Yep.

1061
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,880
Of Born Again.

1062
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:49,880
Yep.

1063
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,880
That's already kind of changed up the character that kind of instigates this whole.

1064
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:55,880
That's right.

1065
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,880
Thing.

1066
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:06,880
I was actually, when I seen, when I seen that bullseye target on the glove, I'm like, let's

1067
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,880
go.

1068
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,880
I love bullseye as a character.

1069
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,380
And just in that hallway scene where he's just like throwing knives and shit everywhere

1070
00:52:15,380 --> 00:52:18,880
and Daredevil just looks like a pin cushion dude.

1071
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,880
Like he's just riddled with blades.

1072
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,880
I'm like, this is the shit.

1073
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,880
I did find it a little janky.

1074
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:28,880
Special.

1075
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:29,880
Yes.

1076
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,880
The special CG.

1077
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:37,880
I think they were going for that one shot feel like they had in the past season.

1078
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:43,880
See, every season had that one choreographed one shot scene, which was fucking spectacular.

1079
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:44,880
Yeah.

1080
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:45,880
But this one, you could see the cuts.

1081
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:51,880
I think the camera was legit one shot, but I think they've overlaid certain things when

1082
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,880
it was pulling in and out kind of like a theater production.

1083
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:56,880
Yeah.

1084
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,880
Yeah.

1085
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,880
It just didn't look right.

1086
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:06,880
Even in like when he's throwing his billy clubs up and the cables are letting him swing,

1087
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,880
it didn't look like a real person.

1088
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,880
It looked like a claymation character.

1089
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,880
Or a cut out.

1090
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,880
Yeah.

1091
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:14,880
They've just dragged across the screen.

1092
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:15,880
There was no animation of it.

1093
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,880
They've just gone and dragged it across.

1094
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,880
The thing is, Charlie Cox, he was pretty acrobatic in the Netflix.

1095
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:22,880
Absolutely.

1096
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:23,880
He was jumping around.

1097
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:30,880
Like, I mean, I understand that he's going to be this kind of super human-ish guy.

1098
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,880
Yeah.

1099
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,880
Kind of better than other people.

1100
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:41,880
But I mean, you could probably put some mats down behind something and throw him off with

1101
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,880
a guide wire on.

1102
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,880
Like, you get something that looks more realistic.

1103
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,880
And see, and like, again, go on.

1104
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,880
Ryan Gosling.

1105
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,880
Dream bird.

1106
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,880
Have you seen his movie Fall Guy?

1107
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:56,880
I have, yes.

1108
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:04,880
Just seeing that and seeing what stuntmen can do, the stuff that Daredevil is doing

1109
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:10,880
on that screen in that instance, it's not, from a layman's point of view, it didn't

1110
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:11,880
look overly dangerous.

1111
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,880
Like, it's just literally him swinging around a corner.

1112
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,880
Why did you need to CG that?

1113
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,880
Presumably it was set on a rooftop.

1114
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:20,880
Yeah.

1115
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:27,880
Why couldn't they film a set with somewhere for a stunt actor swinging land and Charlie

1116
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,880
Cox running out the other side to continue the shot?

1117
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,880
Whether this is just a cheaper way of doing it?

1118
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,880
Yeah, I don't know.

1119
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:42,880
It was kind of after that first scene, I think we fell back into the feel of Daredevil.

1120
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:43,880
Yeah.

1121
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,880
The original TV series.

1122
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,880
Yeah.

1123
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,880
I think we're going to be okay.

1124
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,880
I think so too.

1125
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,880
The first two episodes weren't bad.

1126
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,880
The introduction of the White Tiger was pretty fucking cool.

1127
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,880
That's pulled straight from a comic.

1128
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:00,880
That train station.

1129
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,880
Yeah.

1130
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,880
Where I might just guess, it's turned into tomato soup.

1131
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:05,880
Yeah.

1132
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:06,880
I liked it.

1133
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:12,880
It will be interesting to see if somebody else takes up the mantle of White Tiger, whether

1134
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,880
he gets out, whether they follow what happens in the comics with this guy.

1135
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,880
I have no idea what happens.

1136
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:25,880
There's a lot of different kind of things that are like threads to be pulled at.

1137
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:26,880
Wilson Fisk and...

1138
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,880
Being the mayor, yeah.

1139
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:35,880
Being the mayor and his relationship with his wife and what that's going to do to him

1140
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,880
as somebody who is trying to do right by his city.

1141
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,880
He even says at the start, he's like, we need to make this bulletproof.

1142
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,880
It has to be legit from here on out.

1143
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:56,880
You see the graffiti and it just says King and then the city graffiti underneath it.

1144
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,880
Do you think you're going to see a turn of him?

1145
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:04,880
Now, it's already shown that he's not going to be legit because he blackmailed the police

1146
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:05,880
commissioner.

1147
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,880
So is it going to be...

1148
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,880
Do you think it's going to be Vanessa becoming the kingpin and then going against him and

1149
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:14,880
then him and Daredevil?

1150
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:21,880
I think she's going to be the pressure that drives him back into that persona.

1151
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:22,880
Right.

1152
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:30,880
It's going to be interesting to see what kind of pressure Matt Murdock puts on the kingpin

1153
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,880
too as well that...

1154
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:41,880
So in the Frank Miller run, he pretty much outs Matt Murdock and he ends up homeless

1155
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,880
and all this kind of stuff.

1156
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:50,880
Whether we're going to see that or whether it's just going to be a different type of

1157
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:51,880
berating from the kingpin.

1158
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:52,880
Yep.

1159
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,880
Driving down and down and down because he doesn't have those people in his life anymore.

1160
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:58,880
Yeah.

1161
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,880
We've seen how hard he deals with not having Karen Page in his life as well.

1162
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:03,880
Yeah.

1163
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,880
There's plenty of meat on that bone.

1164
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:11,880
Well, there was, if you've watched the show, there was some mentions of the Punisher and

1165
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:12,880
Spider-Man in there.

1166
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,880
We know we're not going to see Spider-Man.

1167
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:15,880
No.

1168
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,880
And John Baranthal has been on set any film scenes for this.

1169
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,880
We've been in the trailer.

1170
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Yeah.

1171
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,880
So how long before you think you see the Punisher?

1172
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,880
Well, did you see one of the cops had a Punisher tattoo?

1173
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:30,880
Yeah.

1174
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,880
And that brutal scene dude, holy hell.

1175
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,880
Whether Karen Page brings him back in.

1176
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,880
Yeah.

1177
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:44,880
Because in the voiceover, he's calling somebody red, John Baranthal, the Punisher.

1178
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:45,880
Exactly.

1179
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,880
And that could either be Karen Page or it could be Daredevil.

1180
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,880
I don't know.

1181
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:56,880
Well, I love the Netflix series of Punisher and Daredevil.

1182
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,880
The fact that they've kept the same cast with everybody I'm ecstatic about.

1183
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:07,880
I wasn't ready for Foggy to bite the dust as he did.

1184
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,880
Well done though.

1185
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:10,880
Mm-hmm.

1186
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:16,880
That the whole, and when Bullseye hits the deck and you see Karen Page just freeze and

1187
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,880
she's like, oh, I've lost another one.

1188
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,880
No, see, I saw that a different way.

1189
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:26,880
I saw that as she knew that he had thrown Bullseye off the roof.

1190
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,880
Oh, is that how you seen it?

1191
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,880
Yeah.

1192
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,880
And that he's crossed that boundary of killing somebody.

1193
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:32,880
Yeah, right.

1194
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:41,880
And I think that might've been something that had kind of kept her at arm's reach.

1195
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,880
Thinking that he had some retribution.

1196
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:52,880
Well, no, like maybe not committing to a relationship with him because she was worried that that

1197
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:53,880
might happen.

1198
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,880
She didn't want to be with that type of person.

1199
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:02,880
And he, despite what had happened, had pulled that trigger and sent him off the top of the

1200
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:03,880
roof.

1201
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,880
And I think that's why she is backing away from him now.

1202
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:08,880
Yeah, right.

1203
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,880
Whether that comes up further in and find it.

1204
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,880
Well, one of them cops isn't going to have a good time.

1205
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,880
No.

1206
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:18,880
The one in that apartment.

1207
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:19,880
Yeah.

1208
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,880
He got very Batman planted into the floor.

1209
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,880
I am interested to see whether they actually survived that encounter or not.

1210
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:27,880
Same.

1211
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:34,880
And another one that I saw was the swordsman is meant to return in this.

1212
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,880
Tony Dalton.

1213
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:43,880
You know, the rich dude, Kate Bishop's mother's friend.

1214
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1215
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,880
He was in the Hawkeye series.

1216
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,880
The swordsman is what he's called in the comics.

1217
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,880
He's meant to make a return in this series.

1218
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,880
So that'd be interesting.

1219
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,880
Even if it's just a cameo, I'd do them throwing in, sprinkling in the real things for us to

1220
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:01,880
pick up.

1221
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,880
Well, it gives people something to talk about, really, don't it?

1222
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:06,880
That's right.

1223
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,880
There's plenty to look forward to.

1224
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:13,880
Well, when you're talking about when Marvel sprinkle things in, what do you make of the

1225
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,880
images that have come out recently?

1226
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,880
You're talking about the leaked images from Doomsday.

1227
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:19,880
Yeah.

1228
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,880
We had someone in the comments on the YouTube channel talk about it.

1229
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:23,880
That's right.

1230
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,880
I wasn't too sure.

1231
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,880
They look compelling.

1232
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,880
But with the state of AI at the moment.

1233
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:32,880
Yeah.

1234
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:41,880
Because I think I saw leaks for leaked concept images for Fantastic Four as well.

1235
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,880
And they looked stylistically very much the same.

1236
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:46,880
Yeah.

1237
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:54,880
Now, the thing is, these productions generally have different artists for each one.

1238
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,880
And the fact that they look very similar.

1239
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:05,880
I follow, well, I used to follow, I don't know Instagram anymore, but I had Andy Park,

1240
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:13,880
he does a lot of the storyboarding and the costume design for nearly all the Marvel projects.

1241
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:18,880
He used to put up that he was working on several different projects.

1242
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:25,880
And he put out like a flood of images, and he'd only put out the ones that weren't going

1243
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,880
to get used.

1244
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,880
But he would be working on four or five projects at a time.

1245
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,880
So you get these dabbling of different imagery and different sort of things.

1246
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:41,880
So I don't run up against that as much having the different designers or artists working

1247
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:47,880
on each video.

1248
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,880
I've done some smickle can shoot that.

1249
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,880
Five years ago, I ate that shit up.

1250
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:52,880
Absolutely.

1251
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,880
But now I'm just, I don't know.

1252
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,880
I could do what I'm all up at right now.

1253
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:57,880
Yeah.

1254
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,880
I did like what I saw though.

1255
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:07,880
And if that's kind of what we're going to get, I'm very intrigued.

1256
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:14,880
See, I wasn't sure whether we'd ever see She-Hulk and Scar again.

1257
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:15,880
Yeah.

1258
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,880
One of those images has them in it.

1259
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,880
All Hulked out.

1260
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,880
In a city of Hulks.

1261
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,880
Maybe in Battleworld?

1262
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:25,880
Yeah.

1263
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,880
Whether they were aliens or whether they were Hulks, I don't know.

1264
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,880
Yeah.

1265
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,880
So it's Hulk town where like it's just all variants and stuff of Hulk on Battleworld.

1266
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:34,880
Right.

1267
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:35,880
Okay.

1268
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,880
That is interesting.

1269
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:44,880
Because there is some Hulk variants that are pretty cool from the comics that I would like

1270
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,880
to see on the big screen.

1271
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,880
There was two of what looked like a royal court around Doom.

1272
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:52,880
Yeah.

1273
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,880
Him and his throne dude.

1274
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,880
Just looks so good.

1275
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,880
If that's the direction that we're going to go with for Doom.

1276
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,880
Yeah.

1277
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,880
Take my money.

1278
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,880
And then the Young Avengers with Quill.

1279
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:16,880
Considering I dislike him immensely after Endgame, the selfish piece of shit.

1280
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:17,880
Not Endgame.

1281
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:18,880
Infinity War.

1282
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:19,880
Infinity War.

1283
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:20,880
I mean, I get that.

1284
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,880
I don't think he's in any place to lead anyone.

1285
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,880
He can go eat a big bag of booby.

1286
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,880
I think he'd be a good choice to be a leader.

1287
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:38,880
Not only because it would be ironic him leading a new wave of Avengers.

1288
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:48,880
The fact that he isn't just immensely more powerful than those ranks.

1289
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,880
The fact that he wouldn't just be able to stand up and look after them.

1290
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:54,880
Well, yeah.

1291
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,880
He doesn't even have any superpowers anymore since his old man died.

1292
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:00,880
Yeah.

1293
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,880
So I think it might be all right.

1294
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,880
And then there was Quill and the white vision.

1295
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,880
Yeah, sitting on the lounge.

1296
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:19,880
I think I remember before Endgame, and there was concept pictures of Fat Thor.

1297
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:20,880
Yeah.

1298
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:21,880
Yeah.

1299
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,880
And I was a little bit like, what?

1300
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:25,880
That works out.

1301
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:26,880
But it did pretty well.

1302
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,880
And I love how they didn't change it.

1303
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,880
They kept him like, even when he called for Stormbreaker and that.

1304
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:37,880
Yeah, and then his beard was all platted up and yeah, it was sick.

1305
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,880
I thought it was pretty cool.

1306
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:40,880
Hell yeah.

1307
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:41,880
Yeah.

1308
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:47,880
But yeah, I think in the images that I saw for Fantastic Four, they all revolved around

1309
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:48,880
Franklin, the baby.

1310
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,880
If I'm wrong about that sort of shit, I'm excited that I'm wrong about it.

1311
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,880
Yeah, you wouldn't be disappointed.

1312
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:55,880
No.

1313
01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:03,880
The fact that there's that kind of mystery about it again with AI, whether, is that legit?

1314
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:04,880
Yeah.

1315
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:05,880
All right, we're going to see it.

1316
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,880
Instead of for a while there, you're getting leaks and.

1317
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,880
And you can tell just by looking at a hand.

1318
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,880
There's 11 fingers on it.

1319
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,880
You'd know.

1320
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,880
I'm just saying that things were getting spoiled for a long time.

1321
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:17,880
Yeah.

1322
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,880
Especially up towards Endgame.

1323
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,880
I think I saw the spoilers for how Endgame.

1324
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,880
Oh, what was it?

1325
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,880
Captain America picking up Mjolnir, Fat Thor.

1326
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:37,880
I saw a few things in this video, which I cannot help myself.

1327
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:44,880
But even knowing that that leaked imagery was put out and you knew that cat, we all knew

1328
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,880
the cat was going to pick up Mjolnir.

1329
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:47,880
We all knew it.

1330
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,880
It was going to happen.

1331
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:50,880
At some point, yeah.

1332
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:57,880
But when that happened in Endgame, not a single person in that cinema that we're in shut up.

1333
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:58,880
Yeah.

1334
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,880
That was uproarious cheering.

1335
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,880
And that's what these comic book movies do for me, dude.

1336
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:07,880
Yeah.

1337
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:12,880
There is definitely a certain level of excitement that comes with a comic book movie that you

1338
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,880
don't get from a normal movie.

1339
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:15,880
Yeah.

1340
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:16,880
Yeah.

1341
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:17,880
Tingles.

1342
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,880
I mean, I think it's from Age of Ultron where he's like, they're all trying to pick Mjolnir

1343
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:22,880
up.

1344
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,880
And so that's how long they took to pay that off.

1345
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:27,880
Yeah.

1346
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,880
You know, we say this world building, it's fucking important.

1347
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,880
And when DC come in and they try to build their world in three movies, you're like,

1348
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,880
what the fuck he's doing?

1349
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:39,880
Yeah.

1350
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,880
Kevin Foggy set this shit out.

1351
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:42,880
10 years.

1352
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,880
10 years, dude.

1353
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:52,880
And we've seen a 10 year arc of a perfectly played out, not perfectly played out, there

1354
01:06:52,880 --> 01:07:00,080
was hiccups along the way surely, but this linear story that was told by several different

1355
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:07,840
directors and several different characters, all originating from several different books,

1356
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,880
all come together for this one crossover event that just blew...

1357
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:12,880
Mines.

1358
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,880
...it blew Mines.

1359
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:20,880
Whether you're a comic book fan or not, you could go into Iron Man 1 and go, holy shit,

1360
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:21,880
this is sick.

1361
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:22,880
Yeah.

1362
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,760
Because it is almost a perfect movie.

1363
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,680
There's not many holes you can pick with Iron Man.

1364
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:35,280
And I will say the same thing about Infinity War and Endgame.

1365
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,880
They rounded off that whole story perfectly.

1366
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:45,880
Movies you can't watch without watching previous movies, but if you've done the whole experience,

1367
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:46,880
top tier.

1368
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:47,880
Yeah.

1369
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,880
And that's where I think this is where people...

1370
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:54,880
It's okay to go and watch an hour and a half, two and a half hour movie before you go watch

1371
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,880
this other movie.

1372
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,880
It's when they expect you to go and watch eight, nine hours of a TV show, seven of which

1373
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,880
is boring as shit.

1374
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:03,880
Yeah.

1375
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,880
I don't give a fuck about the visuals, man.

1376
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:07,880
Yeah.

1377
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:08,880
All right.

1378
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,880
WandaVision looked cool and it was different.

1379
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,880
Fucking annoyed me.

1380
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,880
It was just dragged out.

1381
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,880
And then White Vision just disappears and we haven't heard of him since.

1382
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,880
I think we talked about this last episode.

1383
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:27,880
When was the Eternals?

1384
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:28,880
2021.

1385
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:29,880
Right.

1386
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,880
So that's four years.

1387
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:41,880
So five TV shows, three movies, and it's only until Captain America, the Brave New World

1388
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,880
that they mentioned the massive earth sized person.

1389
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:46,880
Celestial.

1390
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:47,880
Yeah.

1391
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:48,880
Yeah.

1392
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,880
Person in the middle of the fucking Atlantic.

1393
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:58,880
I would be interested to see a timeline of where everything kind of sits because it has

1394
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,880
been a bit ambiguous.

1395
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:05,880
They haven't really stated where these movies sit chronologically.

1396
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:06,880
Yeah.

1397
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:11,880
Whether it's only a real short amount of time, whether it's been a decent amount of time.

1398
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:12,880
Like a D&D campaign.

1399
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,880
Could have only been six months.

1400
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:15,880
Yeah.

1401
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:16,880
Drags out.

1402
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,880
Especially when people don't do what the DM wants them to do.

1403
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:21,880
Yeah.

1404
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:26,880
I think that's every D&D game though.

1405
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:37,880
Yeah, there's definitely kind of some, they need to get their pigeons in a row, I think.

1406
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:38,880
Yeah.

1407
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:44,880
I think after Endgame, they wanted to continue the momentum.

1408
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,880
I think they needed to take a breath.

1409
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:47,880
Yes.

1410
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,880
And just let that sit.

1411
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,880
Let everyone sit with the death of Tony Stark.

1412
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,880
Simmer on that.

1413
01:09:54,880 --> 01:10:00,880
And bring us in some kind of origin stories.

1414
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:01,880
Absolutely.

1415
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:07,880
Not necessarily the big ensemble cast movies like Eternals.

1416
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,880
I did like Eternals.

1417
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,880
It pretty much bombed.

1418
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:16,880
I don't, personally, I don't see why it bombed.

1419
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,880
I thought it was good.

1420
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:19,880
I hate you.

1421
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:20,880
Why?

1422
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,880
How can you hate Aquaman, but you like Eternals?

1423
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,880
I thought Eternals was deep compared to Aquaman.

1424
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,880
The fact that Aquaman is set in the ocean, I don't mean that.

1425
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,880
Oh, here we go.

1426
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:37,880
See, you've done, Liggy.

1427
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,880
Yeah, I stole that one.

1428
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:40,880
Yeah.

1429
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:50,880
Look, Eternals, it was, what were the animal things that were attacking?

1430
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:51,880
They looked fantastic.

1431
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,880
I think they looked great.

1432
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,880
Wouldn't have been easy to create, that's for sure.

1433
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:58,880
No.

1434
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,880
I forget what they were called.

1435
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:06,880
But I loved the broken family cast sort of thing.

1436
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,880
Still one of the greatest depictions of a speed star in a cartoon movie.

1437
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:11,880
Dude, absolutely.

1438
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,880
Yeah, she was insane.

1439
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,880
I really like that.

1440
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,880
Here we go.

1441
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,880
Now I'm fucking starting to make passes for Eternals.

1442
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,880
God damn, we're going to have to watch it again.

1443
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,880
Babe, we're watching the time.

1444
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:31,880
I really hope it doesn't turn out to be one of the biggest disappointments in my opinion,

1445
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:39,880
the ending with the Black Knight and Blade post-credit scene at the end.

1446
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,880
I really hope that pays off at some point.

1447
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,880
That's where I'm starting to get the shits too.

1448
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:51,880
Their post-credit scenes used to be, yes, let's go, get you amped for that next movie.

1449
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,880
Now you like your scene and you're like, probably not going to happen.

1450
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:56,880
Yeah.

1451
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,880
Masahala Ali is his name.

1452
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,880
Probably butchered that.

1453
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:05,880
Dude, the concept art I've seen of him as Blade looks amazing, dude.

1454
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,880
Looks so good, looks so killer.

1455
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:14,880
And having him and the Black Knight either teaming up or it ends with each other,

1456
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,880
I'm all for that.

1457
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:21,880
Kit Harington, I didn't run into any issue with that.

1458
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,880
I haven't seen any concept art of him as the Black Knight.

1459
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,880
No, neither have I.

1460
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,880
If you're going to do to me a Black Adam and Superman every time I go to a movie,

1461
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,880
I'm going to get the shits and I'm just not going to go.

1462
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:40,880
Because at the end of that movie, at the end of Black Adam, I shed tears.

1463
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,880
Henry Cavill was my Superman, my favorite Superman.

1464
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,880
What happened at the end of Black Adam?

1465
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:47,880
Shut your mouth.

1466
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,880
I haven't seen it, I don't know.

1467
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,880
So it's the Black Adam sitting on his throne after he's defeated everybody and you're like that.

1468
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,880
You know, the image of Black Adam and he sort of legs out and he's just sitting on his throne.

1469
01:12:58,880 --> 01:12:59,880
Yeah.

1470
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:03,880
And then you hear from the shadows, Black Adam.

1471
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:15,880
And then you hear, what's his name, James Williams, the school, James Williams?

1472
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,880
Something Williams.

1473
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,880
Yeah, Superman.

1474
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:25,880
That Dick Donner, Superman school comes on and then he just steps out of the shadows and he goes,

1475
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,880
we need to talk.

1476
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:27,880
Cut to black.

1477
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,880
I was ready to buy my tickets there.

1478
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:35,880
The suit looked shit because it was that shiny suit with the highlights of his muscles.

1479
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,880
It looked like a baby blue and it was just trash.

1480
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:38,880
Fuck it off.

1481
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,880
Give me the man of steel suit again.

1482
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:45,880
Just the dull blue, maybe a bit brighter blue.

1483
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,880
I was ready to buy my tickets then.

1484
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:55,880
To see Superman and Black Adam fighting, like facing off with each other or just bringing Shazam in.

1485
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:56,880
Shazam was a lot, dude.

1486
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,880
It was such a fun movie.

1487
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,880
To see Shazam, Superman, Black Adam, give it to me.

1488
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:03,880
I'm all for it.

1489
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,880
I don't care who plays.

1490
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,880
I think The Rock done an okay job with Black Adam, but I just think they need to get someone smaller

1491
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,880
because he was always going to be the fucking, I'm going to take over this shit.

1492
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:22,880
And I love how Deadpool brought that in and goes, the power hierarchy of the Marvel Universe is about to change.

1493
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,880
You give me, again, fan service.

1494
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,880
I didn't care for The Rock's Black Adam.

1495
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:36,880
He looked great as it.

1496
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,880
We didn't see Point It Is, which was a bit of a piss off.

1497
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,880
And the suit looked sensational.

1498
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:51,880
I loved the suit, how it was just a part of him sort of thing.

1499
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:57,880
If you're going to give me a post-credit scene, make sure you're going to make the goddamn movie.

1500
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,880
Making sure it pays off.

1501
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:05,880
You're pissing, you're literally pissing in the pockets of the people who will pay in your bills.

1502
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:06,880
Don't be dicks.

1503
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:07,880
That's right.

1504
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,880
Don't be dicks.

1505
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:18,880
So yeah, I think as long as you're going to put a post-credits, then pay it off in the next movie.

1506
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,880
Don't leave us wait six, seven years.

1507
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,880
Absolutely.

1508
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaking of post-credits.

1509
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,880
Yeah, I think we might wrap it up there.

1510
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:35,880
If you guys would like to join in on a conversation, you can always contact us on YouTube or Instagram.

1511
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,880
And that's it for this week.

1512
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:51,880
Peace.