1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,880
Hey guys, welcome back to the podcast. First of all, I'm not on my usual setup at the moment,

2
00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:12,160
so I apologize for the audio quality. If you hear any movement or anything, it's just me

3
00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,960
kind of walking around. I sort of do this and I walk around a little bit when I have

4
00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,400
like the freedom to do so, because I'm not on a wired headset today. It gives me the

5
00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,200
opportunity to walk around, so sorry if you hear any background noise. But this will be

6
00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,120
a pretty informative episode, or at least I think it will be. So I hope you take some

7
00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,160
value from it, and I hope it's not too unbearable to listen to an airport quality voice. Anyway,

8
00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:39,560
so today I wanted to talk about something that's been a pretty recent thing for me.

9
00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:46,800
I will say this right now, I haven't been sort of having this like mindset for, I guess

10
00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:52,280
it's a mindset for long. But I've done some research in that time and I've talked to a

11
00:00:52,280 --> 00:01:00,200
few professionals, including my own therapist, counselor, whatever you call it in this time.

12
00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,000
So I do have a little bit of insight, but it might be something that other people have

13
00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,320
realized already, but just for me, this is a pretty new discovery. I just wanted to share

14
00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:11,280
it and talk about it because there may be some other people in the same position as

15
00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:18,640
me that kind of need to hear this. So basically, when I first developed all this and metaphobia

16
00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:25,600
stuff, and I did my research, and I discovered what it was and I did, you know, that's just

17
00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:31,120
what we all do at the start. You know, there was peace and finding out that it was something

18
00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:37,440
real. But at the same time, it was also like how the hell am I supposed to deal with this?

19
00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:43,120
During that time, I sort of have went through all the motions, just random panic attacks,

20
00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,560
days where I wanted to give up, days where I was fine, just your usual healing process

21
00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,960
or dealing with a process. I wasn't really healing, but I went through, you know, the

22
00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,040
same thing as you did, I guess, you know, most for the most part, I assume it's pretty

23
00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:03,080
similar. And then I got to a point where I was comfortable enough doing the things I

24
00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,000
was doing. I was comfortable enough eating the food that I liked. I had a pretty wide

25
00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,720
a wide variety of food I ate. I was comfortable going for my walks outside again. I wasn't

26
00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,400
afraid to leave the house so much that even I could do my shopping, I could drive to,

27
00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,800
you know, the town over and do my groceries and fuel and fast food and whatever the hell

28
00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:28,240
I wanted to do. So I was at a point where I needed to push forward. Like it was a big

29
00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,040
step. There wasn't really a baby step for me to go after that, it felt, you know, because

30
00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,760
obviously baby steps are very important. But I couldn't take anymore. There wasn't any

31
00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,800
really more baby steps to, you know, take. I didn't have a job and I couldn't have gone

32
00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,000
to a job interview and said, hey, can I work one day a week? You know, like they're probably

33
00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,280
not going to hire me if I said that. But I, if anyway, I'm granting, but I, the next step

34
00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:59,640
was a big one. And I did it. I did that big step. And then I did a few big steps after

35
00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:05,240
that. And then I progressed to a point where I hadn't been before a point of actual happiness.

36
00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,200
I was happy pretty much 90% of the time. I didn't have panic attacks anymore. I was normal

37
00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:14,720
basically like I live normally. Shouldn't say normal. But yeah, I was living relatively

38
00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:21,920
normally. Like there was no real issues for quite a while there. But during that phase

39
00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:26,640
of like having to do those big steps, I sort of got into this mindset where I had to push

40
00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:32,040
because it wasn't easy. Like it took a long time to do these big steps because they were

41
00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:38,000
big steps. And I had to do some, you know, baby steps in between the big steps when I

42
00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:44,120
could. But it was mostly big, bigger steps, what I would call bigger steps anyways. And

43
00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,440
I had this mindset on me that I developed that I had to push and just push and push

44
00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,800
and push, you know, and no matter how hard it got, I had to push further and it worked

45
00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:59,440
for a while. It was sort of what I needed was to be sort of, you know, pushing a little

46
00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:05,040
harder. But I took that way too far. I would force myself into things. I would force myself

47
00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:12,960
into situations that would make me panic and freak out. And that would make me feel awful.

48
00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,680
And if I didn't do those things, I would also let myself know I would definitely not be

49
00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:23,840
nice about it to myself. I would, I would, I would internally destroy myself for not

50
00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:27,840
being able to achieve something that I achieved the day before or that I had set myself a really

51
00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:37,920
like a high standard for. And that mindset never really ended. I've had that ever since

52
00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:43,280
and this was two years ago. But things also obviously for me at least haven't been as hard

53
00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:48,400
as they are at the moment. And I've had to learn how to be more gentle with myself, how

54
00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,640
to be kinder, how to have better self talk, how to trust the process that I'm going through

55
00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,560
because I know I'm doing the right things, but there's no time limit and I can't make

56
00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:05,080
it go can't make it be better now. But from day dot, it's all I've been doing for the

57
00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:10,120
last like three, four months is pushing and pushing and pushing. And I've been forcing

58
00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:20,360
myself into situations that make me feel anxious, like really anxious. And I took some time

59
00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:26,640
off work about a month or a couple weeks ago, about a month ago, I'd say. And it's been

60
00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,920
good not having to worry about work. I'm in a situation where I don't have to worry so

61
00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:36,760
much about the financial part of it. So like, which is good for now, it's not a forever

62
00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,520
thing, but it's a for now thing. So it made it easier. You know, there's not so much stress

63
00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:47,560
on me for that right now. But I went to go back to my first shift the other day just

64
00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,040
on four days ago from recording this, and I'll post this is the same day I'm recording

65
00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:57,400
it. So yeah, about three days, four days, my first shift. And I got up in the morning,

66
00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,680
and I was feeling a little anxious about the night before as well. But I when I got up

67
00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:10,280
in the morning, I was feeling just not good. Not anxious, particularly, particularly whatever

68
00:06:10,280 --> 00:06:16,720
the fuck that I don't know how to pronounce that it's like, I wasn't too anxious. I wasn't

69
00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:22,200
I was just, I guess I was just uncomfortable. There's something in me that was telling me

70
00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:29,960
like this isn't going to be a good day. But I pushed it aside, I got ready. Not so willingly,

71
00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,760
but I did I got in the car and I drove about basically got to my work, which is about half

72
00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:41,400
an hour away. And like the entire time I was driving as well, I was just thinking I can't

73
00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:47,560
do I don't think I can do this. But I kept having thoughts of like, what's going to be

74
00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:53,200
the benefit of this? If I've already feel this way. I've already set myself up for this.

75
00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:58,440
And I know that there's a part of me that can do this. Like I knew it and beside myself

76
00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:05,520
that I was going to be able to do it if I really wanted to. But I didn't like I the

77
00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,920
first time I sort of, I felt my body and how it felt. And I took, you know, like I took

78
00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,280
it into consideration, I paid attention to what it actually felt like. And I thought

79
00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:20,280
to myself, I'm fucking tired. I don't want to do this. I'm not even anxious. I just straight

80
00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:26,360
up don't want to do this. I was definitely a little anxious. But something told me that

81
00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,120
regardless if I made it through that shift or not, it wasn't going to benefit me. And

82
00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,840
I might be wrong. I don't know that. But I know myself well enough to know that I trust

83
00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,480
I needed to trust that. And I thought to myself, Hey, you're forcing yourself into this and

84
00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,920
you're not really that ready for it. You can probably do it, but you're going to be

85
00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,240
wrecked for the rest of the week. You're going to be exhausted. You're not going to be able

86
00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,040
to pay proper attention to your partner. You're not going to be able to do anything. You're

87
00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,520
not going to be able to, you know, you're going to be super anxious when you get home.

88
00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,280
All the anxiety is going to come out when you get home. You know, because you're going

89
00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:06,320
to get it from this regardless. And I just knew it wasn't a good idea. So I turned around.

90
00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:12,800
I made it for the first time in my life, I made a decision to not force myself into

91
00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:18,840
doing something for the benefit of my anxiety or for what I thought would be a benefit.

92
00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,480
And I don't think I've felt such a weight lift off my shoulders, even if it was only

93
00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:30,160
for the day. There was such a relief in that because I chose to do something for myself

94
00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,160
because I've been getting hounded by everyone around me that I need to take a break, that

95
00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,080
I need to relax, that I just need to let it go and let things go at their own pace because

96
00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:45,600
I'm doing what I can and it'll work. But it'll work when it works. I can't make it work right

97
00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:57,080
now. I know some of you feel that too. I know a lot of people force themselves into things.

98
00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:02,440
They push and push and they never relax and they wonder why they're not getting any better.

99
00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:09,560
That's me. At least that's what I'm trying to unlearn right now, is that behaviour. Because

100
00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:12,560
from the research I've done, or like an end from my own experience, I can tell you now

101
00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:16,760
that it doesn't necessarily help your anxiety when you force yourself into doing something

102
00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:22,120
because just because you did it doesn't mean you did a good thing for yourself, I guess.

103
00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,440
As weird as that probably sounds. Because I had the mindset from when this started that

104
00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,240
all I knew, all I remembered from my past was I needed to push. I didn't remember the

105
00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,240
time I was gentle with myself, which I was. I was very gentle for a time there before

106
00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,840
I started this pushing stuff like a few years ago. So the only part I remember was the pushing.

107
00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,840
So as soon as I noticed things were getting off, I pushed really hard. And that started

108
00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:51,720
four months ago and I haven't stopped until then, until that day. And I've sort of put

109
00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,320
that into like that's at the forefront of my mind. That's the main thing I'm focusing

110
00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,360
on is I'm not going to force myself to do something that I really don't want to do.

111
00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,240
I will know when the time is right to push myself to do so. I will know when I need an

112
00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,120
extra push, when I need to do something. But I also know the difference between doing

113
00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,680
that and forcing myself into something. And I know if it's going to benefit me or not,

114
00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:16,240
because I've been here too. I've been in these situations too many times. I know these things.

115
00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,480
We all are capable of knowing that we all do know this. We know ourselves way better

116
00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:26,120
than we think. But I feel like we don't take the time to listen to ourselves. Dude, like

117
00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,560
I, that when I, for example, like, this is probably like a little bit of a rant on enough

118
00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:36,200
as it's boring or not, but I'm going to post it anyways. That day that I, I decided to

119
00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,840
do that for myself. Just a couple of days ago, like I did every single thing that day

120
00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:46,440
that I wanted to do without a feeling of anxiety. And I'm not saying it's a magic cure either.

121
00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:51,640
But for the rest of the day, I felt free. I went on a date with my, with my partner and

122
00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,240
we hadn't been on one in ages because of me. I ate food at a restaurant I've never eaten

123
00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:02,680
before. We went to op shops and I was touching things little weird kids would touch and with

124
00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:11,400
their dirty fucking hands, whatever, you know, like I was, I was, I was free for like 12

125
00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:17,280
hours. It felt like because of how heavy that forcing myself to do things was weighing

126
00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:24,400
on me. And like, I'm not going to lie. As I said, it's not a fix. It's not a solution

127
00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,440
to all my problems. It's not going to make everything better right now. But I can tell

128
00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:38,000
that I'm letting a wall down for myself. I've sort of locked myself in a part of this progression

129
00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,040
in this healing process with the forcing myself. I was at a point where I wasn't necessarily

130
00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,160
getting worse, but I definitely wasn't getting any better. But at the moment, I'm sort of

131
00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:53,040
just letting things flow as they want. And just healing in general, isn't about pushing

132
00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,920
yourself really hard, exposing yourself to everything. It's about giving yourself the

133
00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,000
space to process and deal with these things. If you ever do it, you're risking burning

134
00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:07,840
yourself out, making setbacks for your really bad, really like way worse. And I definitely

135
00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:13,280
experienced that. Like I like every time I couldn't do something like lately has just

136
00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,240
been, is I've been dreading the most traumatizing. I just I don't forget it. It ruins my whole

137
00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:24,080
day. It ruins everything about the next day as well. I do not let go. It's a part of me

138
00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,000
finally learned that I need to a little bit. And I don't think this is all just for me.

139
00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,800
Like I'm not I probably sounds like I'm just ranting about myself. But I think a lot of

140
00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:39,240
us can learn something from that. From letting go a little bit, from being kinder to ourselves,

141
00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:47,240
from not forcing ourselves into things so much. You know, we all know a little bit of

142
00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:52,000
exposure is good. But what about too much? Now whenever talks about too much exposure?

143
00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:58,640
Well, at least I don't hear that. I don't see people talking about that. We've all done

144
00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,920
it. We've all we've all over been overconfident with ourselves and try to push it, which is

145
00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,080
good. It's good to feel confident. It's good to feel like you can do something in the moment

146
00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:11,280
too. A lot of us get carried away sometimes like we might be with friends drinking. And

147
00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,160
we don't drink much. We're a metaphobic we'll have like two and be good. At least that's

148
00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,160
for me is if that's how it goes. But sometimes we can get carried away. And it's good exposure

149
00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,880
for a little bit until you realize what's happened. Or you could eat something that you

150
00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,520
thought was really good. And then you start getting really worried about it. You read

151
00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,160
some reviews, you heard a story from a friend, some idiot told you they got through poisoning

152
00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:40,280
from it and just wrecked your whole night. I don't know. Whatever it could be for you.

153
00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,720
But it's good to feel that way like we can do things. But we do sometimes get carried

154
00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:49,800
away with those things. And it could be a good or bad, you know, positive or a negative.

155
00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,800
The thing that happened for me was a massive negative. Like all of it for months has been

156
00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:00,840
a negative. I have not been progressing. I've not been making myself better. I have not been

157
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,120
learning anything besides that I need to fear these things more because of how scary they

158
00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,440
feel because of how hard I just push myself into them instead of letting myself go at

159
00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:20,960
a less dangerous pace, I guess, less intense pace. I know I've rambled a lot. It's sort

160
00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,400
of weighed on my mind a little bit. And I sort of see it every day because I'm in a

161
00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:31,480
few groups throughout the socials about a metaphobe. And I do see a lot of people talking

162
00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,120
about when they've been somewhere and then they have a panic attack and then, you know,

163
00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,600
they force themselves to do something. Like they're really bad about going somewhere and

164
00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,720
they did it anyway. Sometimes you have to trust that feeling inside of you that says

165
00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:54,640
it's not today. Today is not the day for this. And I get it's hard to decide that because

166
00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,320
I mean, most of us feel that every day or most days or a couple of times a week. We

167
00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:05,440
don't really sometimes know the difference. But I guess what I'm saying is that if you

168
00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:10,120
can, you should try to listen to your body a little bit or a little more. It's not always

169
00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:17,560
lying. You know, for the first time I trusted myself and it ended up being a really good

170
00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:24,400
decision. And maybe next time it might backfire. It can't always go right. And it's not always

171
00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,920
going to make you feel really good, right? Sometimes it's going to make you feel a little

172
00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,080
disappointed that you couldn't do that thing. I for sure wasn't. I was happy. I was so happy.

173
00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,400
But I'm sure that if that happened another day, you know, where I was feeling a little

174
00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,600
different about it, but I still decided to listen to myself, I would have felt shitty.

175
00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:46,520
I would have been like, damn, I wish I went to work, but I know this is good for me.

176
00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,240
Slowing everything down a little bit sucks because I want myself to be out of this as

177
00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,680
fast as possible. And we all want that for ourselves. We all want to be so far out of

178
00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:03,760
this phobia and out of the states we're in with it. But we can't force that. We don't

179
00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,600
necessarily have control over how quick this process happens. We have control over what

180
00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:16,800
we do. We can spend the time we are like we have in this as, you know, doing things that

181
00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,120
benefit us. And we're going to make mistakes along the way. We're going to fuck up. We're

182
00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,080
going to eat something we didn't necessarily know we shouldn't have eaten or decide that

183
00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,680
we shouldn't have eaten after we're already ate it or we're going to drink too much. We're

184
00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:33,520
going to do this, go there, do whatever we're going to do hundreds of things wrong. We're

185
00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,040
going to have panic attacks. We're going to have shit days. We're going to have days

186
00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:44,720
we're going to give up. But we're not going to. Okay. I promise you, if you're in a position

187
00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:50,400
where you feel like you're not getting any better, please try slowing down a little bit.

188
00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:58,920
Don't force yourself to do so much. Take it back just a little bit. It'll give you a little

189
00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:04,760
more time to think and that will be a good thing when you can, you know, it clears your

190
00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:10,360
head a little bit at least for me. It was a bit scary because I've let go of a few other

191
00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:16,840
things and it's freed up a little bit of time. For now, it's going to free up a little bit

192
00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,600
of time. These are things I do want to piss you still, but for now I decided I needed

193
00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:27,120
to, they're just not that important right now. And it's given me more time, but I have

194
00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:32,120
that time to spend on other things, things for me. I've gotten into guided meditation.

195
00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:36,800
I don't know what everyone's opinions are on that, but I seem I like it so, so far. I

196
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,680
don't mind it. I like going outside and being mindful, you know, just spending more time

197
00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:48,600
doing the things that I want to do that don't cause me anxiety so I can sort of save up

198
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:53,280
my energy to push myself a little further tomorrow to do something just a little bit.

199
00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:59,000
I'm not forcing anything just a little bit, but I just want sort of everyone to know that

200
00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,600
it's okay if you need to take a break or if you don't want to, you can't go to work today

201
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,560
or you can't go to that fucking wedding or something. I don't know. It's not the end

202
00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:15,160
of the world. It might feel like shit if you can't do that thing. But if you, if you have

203
00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,200
to force yourself to do that thing, you're probably going to end up having the biggest

204
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,320
panic attack. Most of the time, I think anyway, sometimes you can get through it and it be

205
00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:30,000
okay. I'm not, I don't know your situation. I just know my own. I just know what's happened

206
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,560
with that. And I can just say that most times I've like absolutely forced myself like just

207
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:43,040
to the limit of forcing myself is what I'm talking about. Like it has ended badly. Like

208
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:48,040
I have literally just pushed myself into a panic attack and I can't mindfulness my way

209
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:54,400
out of that one, you know, like I need to leave sort of thing. So I just, yeah, I just

210
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,240
want, as I said, I want people to sort of maybe chill a little bit. If you're in a position

211
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:05,800
where you feel like you're not getting anywhere, take a step back, you're not taking us, you

212
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,480
know, you're not taking an L here. It's not a setback. You're not giving up. You're not

213
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:17,920
losing to anything. All you're going to be doing is trying, but in a different way.

214
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:24,280
It might be a better way. It might be exactly what you need. It's just an option though.

215
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:29,160
As per usual, I'm not giving any proper professional advice. I have no idea, but I'm just talking

216
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:34,800
from my own experiences. And I hope that despite how much I've rambled in this, I hope someone

217
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,160
finds some value in it. It means a lot to me that I've sort of had this realization for

218
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,920
myself. And I've tried to do the most research I can in like, you know, the short days until

219
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,840
I decided I can't wait anymore. And I want to record this and I want to get this out

220
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,120
there. So this might be common knowledge, but for me it wasn't. I hope you're having

221
00:19:52,120 --> 00:20:18,960
a good day. See you later.

