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Welcome to the Kingdom Family Podcast, where

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we rediscover our identity as sons and daughters

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of Yahweh and learn to live the life of the kingdom.

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Let's jump in to today's episode. OK, guys, we

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are back season four and we are going to kick

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this season off with rethinking hell. Yes, I

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am going to wrestle that topic to kick off this

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season. We ended season three with rethinking

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the end times and I hope that was life -changing.

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I hope that gave you a more hopeful outlook to

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life. And so we're going to do the same thing

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here. We're going to rethink hell together. And

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the same thing is true as with rethinking the

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end times. My aim of this is not to get you to

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agree with where I have landed. Quite frankly,

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if I'm being completely honest, I don't know

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yet where I have landed on the topic of hell.

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I just don't believe it is what we have been

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taught, especially in the Western world. So we're

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going to kick this off with this title being

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that the word hell isn't in the Bible the way

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that you think. We're going to begin this series,

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and I understand that people have strong opinions

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over this topic, but quite frankly, I know very

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few people who have studied it and not simply

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regurgitated information. My fear, and I speak

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as one who has done this before, is I feel like

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there are many times that we just simply regurgitate

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information that we have heard. Over the years

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instead of actually doing our own studying our

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own research into topics and into things and

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really Allowing Holy Spirit to be our teacher

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I'll never forget one of the things Lance Johnson

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told me several years ago He said the Holy Spirit

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will be the greatest teacher you've ever had

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and that statement has proven to be true. Not

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sure that he realized what he was saying to me

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but that statement I have held near and dear

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to my heart and I would encourage that to everyone.

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The Holy Spirit will be, can be the greatest

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teacher that you and I have. So I want you to

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think about when you hear the word hell What

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comes to your mind? Is it flames? Is it torment?

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Is it punishment? Is it eternal suffering? But

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this is the question I want us to wrestle with

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tonight or today or whenever you're listening

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to this. What if the picture that we were given

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was not actually what scripture meant? And let

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me say right off the bat, this is not about watering

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down scripture, but it is about taking scripture

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seriously enough to study what the words actually

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meant to the people who first heard them. Again,

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same as we did with rethinking the end times.

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It's putting everything back into the original

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context to help you and I gain a better understanding.

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Many of us myself included inherited beliefs

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not from Hebrew nor Greek but from tradition

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and tradition if left unexamined can carry fear

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that scripture never intended that quite frankly

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Jesus never intended so Let me show you something

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that probably most people have never been told

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I don't know that until doing this study that

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I picked up on this But the English word hail

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that we have in our in our Bibles today, modern

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day English Bibles, is not one original word.

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It is actually four different words that was

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translated into one English word. I want you

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to think about that. Four words, four meanings,

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four different contexts, but our English language

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collapsed them into a single word. Now, those

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words are Sheol, Hades, Gehenna and Tartarus

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and we're going to briefly examine each of those

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four in this episode and then over the next few

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we're going to do a deep dive into each one of

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those. But I want you to imagine for just a moment

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if we took the words house, apartment, hotel

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and barn and translated them all as building.

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Technically, is that correct? I'm sure one could

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argue that they are all buildings, but it is

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incredibly misleading. So if I was to tell you

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I want you to go to the building and what I meant

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was go into the house and I tell the group of

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people this and they all scatter some go to the

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house, some go to the hotel, some go to the barn.

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They all went to a building, but only a certain

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few went to the house that I was actually referencing.

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See what happens. This is exactly what happened

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with the word hell. Why does this matter? Because

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if we misunderstand the words, we misunderstand

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the message. And if we misunderstand the message,

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we misunderstand God's character. And that's

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important for us to take hold of. So we're going

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to kick this off with defining SHIO. So that's

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the first one we're going to look at. Shio is

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a Hebrew word that appears throughout the Old

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Testament. Let me kick this off real quickly

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here. Shio does not mean a torture chamber. Shio

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referred to the realm of the dead. It referred

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to the grave. It referred to the unseen place

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of death. Psalm 6 and 5 says, In the darkness

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of death, who remembers your name and worship?

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How could I bring you praise if I'm buried in

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a tomb? Again, the word used here for death is

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the Hebrew word sheol. It's the realm of the

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dead. This is the first Psalm here to mention

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the grave or sheol. It is depicted in the poetic

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literature of the Hebrew as a vast wasteland,

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a stronghold of darkness and a beast of prey.

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Notice that this verse has nothing to do with

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torment. It is simply describing death. And if

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you look at the Old Testament, both the righteous

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and the wicked, both of them went to the place

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called Sheol. Again, important for us to think

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about. Then we have Ecclesiastes chapter 9 verse

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10. It says this whatever you do do well for

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when you go to the grave Sheo, there will be

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no work or planning or knowledge or wisdom Now

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I'm curious as I'm looking at these Because I

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am using just so, you know, I'm using the passion

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translation and I'm also using the new living

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Translation, but I wanted to take just a moment

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because I didn't do this beforehand I'm gonna

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pull this back up in the King James just to see

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what the language is so if you look at Ecclesiastes

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chapter 9 verse 10 and Okay, so it does use the

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word grave there, so that's good I was just curious

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to see that while I'm doing this recording sometimes

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it's good for us to stop and do a little Looking

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at it together So again for when you go to the

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grave she all there will be no work or planning

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or knowledge or wisdom So again here we have

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not torture imagery. It's simply death imagery

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Then we have Psalm chapter 16 verse 10. It says

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for you will not abandon me to the realm of death

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Nor will you allow your faithful one to experience

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corruption? The new King James would say for

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you will not leave my soul in Sheol Now this

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passage is an important one to remember because

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in Acts chapter 2 verse 27 Peter quotes this

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psalm and applies it to Jesus when he says no

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wonder my heart is glad and my glory celebrates

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my mouth is filled with his praises and I have

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hope that my body will live because you will

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not leave my soul among the dead nor will you

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allow your sacred ones to experience decay so

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Peter is quoting this in Acts chapter 2 when

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he's referencing Psalm 16 10. And it's just important

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to remember that Jesus entered death, but he

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was not left there. This was not about Jesus

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escaping torture. This was about Jesus defeating

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death itself. Important for us to grab hold of

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and to remember. Alright, then we have the word

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Hades. This would be the Greek equivalent to

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the Hebrew word Sheol. You could say it's the

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parallel meaning, essentially. Hades carries

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the same general meaning. Again, it's the realm

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of the dead. It's not eternal punishment. It's

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not final judgment. In Jewish thought, actually,

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Hades is a temporary shadowy realm often used

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symbolically. Jesus, again, just as the rethinking

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in times, Jesus is speaking their language. That's

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important to remember. He's speaking to a group

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of people that would have understood what he

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was referencing and what he was stating. Luke

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16 is where many people will point... to in scripture

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as proof of torment. I've heard this argument

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myself and it's the story of the rich man and

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Lazarus. So I want you to understand though,

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Jesus, the same as rethinking in times, Jesus

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often used parables, okay, filled with imagery

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and familiar to his Jewish audience. So we're

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going to look at Luke chapter 16 and we're going

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to read verses 19 through 31. So just bear with

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me, you can pause this, get your own Bible out,

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run with it with me. We're going to start in

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verse 19, Luke chapter 16 says, Jesus continued

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there once was a very rich man who had the finest

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things imaginable living every day enjoying his

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life of opulent luxury. Opulent simply means

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lavishly abundant. Outside the gates of his mansion

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was a poor beggar named Lazarus. He lay there

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every day covered with boils and all the neighborhood

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dogs would come and lick his open sores. The

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only food he had to eat was the garbage that

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the rich man threw away. One day poor Lazarus

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died and the angels of God came and escorted

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his spirit into paradise. The day came that the

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rich man died. In hell, Hades He looked up from

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his torment and saw Abraham in the distance,

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and Lazarus was standing beside him in the glory.

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The rich man shouted, Father Abraham, Father

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Abraham, have mercy on me. Send Lazarus to dip

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his finger in water and come to cool my tongue,

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for I am in agony in these flames of fire. But

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Abraham responded, My friend, don't you remember

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while you were alive, you had all you desired.

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You surround yourself in luxury. while Lazarus

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had nothing. Now Lazarus dwells on the comforts

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of paradise and you are in agony. Besides, between

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us is a huge chasm that cannot be bridged, nor

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can anyone cross from one realm to the other.

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Even if he wanted, the rich man continued, then

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let me ask you, Father Abraham, please send Lazarus

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to my relatives. Hold on I've got I did not have

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all my scriptures here. So let me pull this back

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up real quick and get the last part of this Sometimes

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it pays to go through your notes beforehand But

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that's fine we can pick it up back where we left

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off But Abraham responded okay we got through

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that Abraham replied they've already had plenty

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of warning. They have the teachings of Moses

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and the revelation of the prophets Let them hear

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them What if they're not listening the rich man

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added if someone from the dead were to go and

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warn them They would surely repent Abraham said

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to him if they wouldn't listen to Moses and the

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prophets Neither would they be convinced if someone

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were raised from the dead? again important scripture

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for us to wrestle with First thing I want you

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to notice, it's a parable. If you follow what

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is happening around this story in Luke chapter

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16, we have in Luke chapter 15, you have the

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story of the lost sheep, the lost coin, and the

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lost son, and then you have an unjust steward,

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and then you have this story. So nowhere in this

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does Jesus stop and tell the crowd, hey listen,

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I'm stopping telling parables here, and now I'm

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going to give you literal descriptions so again

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it's one of these things don't check your brain

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at the door and i want you to wrestle some hard

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questions now you may read this and come up with

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your own questions and questions are perfectly

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okay take them to the father take him to papa

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take him to holy spirit and wrestle these questions

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but here's my first question if this is taken

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literally how can a drop of water cool someone

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in literal flames Think about that. How could

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a drop of water cool someone who is in literal

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flames? Let me tell you what a drop of water

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would do for somebody You know, it's it's July.

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Excuse me. It's August now where I'm at If you

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consider this time of year where I am at when

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you have 90 plus degree weather And it's a Saturday

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and you are mowing your lawn outside It is very

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hot Don't care what you say, especially in the

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southern part of Virginia with the humidity and

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everything else. It can be miserable at times

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when you have to do this outside stuff. It'd

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be nice, I would think, if you could mow in the

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winter time instead. At least you can put articles

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of clothing on versus the other option. Just

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wrestling that out loud. But if you think about

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this... That concept of it being a hundred degrees

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outside or 90 degrees outside If someone were

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to just bring you a drop of water, it would do

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nothing but irritate you It's not going to give

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you any sense of relief No, typically most people

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they want a bottle of water. They want a cup

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of water. Let me have some water because it is

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hot and I am sweating more than I'm intaking.

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So give me some water please. Give me a propel.

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Give me some Gatorade. If you were just to give

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me, go get a dropper and just drop some on my

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tongue, that's going to do nothing but agitate

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me. So I can't see him asking that. for the rich

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man asking Lazarus to do that, that's going to

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help him. That's not going to be beneficial for

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anybody. The other question is this, how can

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people in paradise watch and converse with those

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being tormented? That to me sounds kind of sickening.

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If you get pleasure out of watching someone else

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suffer, I would question your heart in that moment

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because that's... That's just, to me, it's inhumane.

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The next question is this, do the redeemed spend

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eternity observing the suffering? Again, kind

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of like with the last question, I have a hard

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time buying into that, if that's what we're going

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to believe. So just understand this is not a

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story of a travel brochure of heaven and hell.

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It is a parable. It's a story. Luke 16, 14, Jesus

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addressed the Pharisees of being lovers of money.

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So this story is aimed directly at religious

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leaders who believe that wealth equals God's

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favor and that poverty equals God's disfavor.

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And Jesus, in telling of this parable, is flipping

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the entire framework, something Jesus was really

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good at. This is the only parable where a character

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is named and that also my friend is purposeful.

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Lazarus means God is my help. The poor man in

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this story is given a name. The rich man has

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no name. He is defined only by his status. That

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concept alone would have offended the Pharisees.

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In their worldview, the rich man should be the

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hero and the poor man should be cursed. Why?

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Again, goes back to what I just said. They believe

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that wealth equaled the favor of God and that

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if you did not have wealth, so if you're in poverty,

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then it was God's disfavor and Jesus is reversing

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this mindset. Also, if you look at this story

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and consider Abraham's bosom, it would symbolize

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excuse me, it would symbolize honor, covenant,

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covenant belonging, it would symbolize intimacy.

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So Jesus is essentially saying the one that you

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assumed was outside the covenant is actually

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resting inside of it. Think about this, wrestle

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with this thought, wrestle with this knowledge.

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So then we have Hades, the realm of the dead,

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not in eternal punishment and Jewish thought.

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Again, I said this earlier. Hades is a temporary

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shadowy realm often used symbolically. So Jesus

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is talking to a group of people in a way that

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they would understand what he's attempting to

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communicate. Consider the torment now. Even in

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torment, the rich man still calls Abraham father.

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And he still treats Lazarus as a servant so that

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he still never repents. He still centers himself.

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Notice what it says, send Lazarus to serve me.

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His torment also in the story is not caused by

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the wrath of God. His torment is caused by an

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unchanged heart that cannot receive mercy. And

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my friend I will tell you up front, I have lived

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that hell. I have walked through that hell before.

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I have walked what I would believe you could

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coin the dark night of the soul. I know what

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that's like. To live with an unchanged heart

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that cannot receive mercy and you're being exposed

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to mercy. And then he's in the flame and the

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flame often represents exposure, testing, refinement,

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inner anguish. This is existential. Excuse me,

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this is extensional torment, not God torturing

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someone. Think about it like this, it's regret.

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Realization, loss of illusion, the burning awareness

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of what you missed. The fire simply reveals it

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does not revenge. Think about John chapter 3

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verses 20 and 21 It says so the wicked hate the

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light and try to hide from it for the light fully

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exposes their lives But those who loved the truth

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will come into the light for the light will reveal

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that that it was God who produced their fruitful

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works So what does the light do? What does fire?

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We're do it reveals it exposes It's important

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for us to grab hold of Then we have the Great

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Chasm. It's not a spatial gap. It's a relational

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and perceptual divide. This cannot help you understand

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that the Chasm already existed during lifetimes.

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One lived closed off and self -sufficiency and

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one lived open independence. That Chasm already

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existed. And then you have... This toward the

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end that says they have Moses and the prophets

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let them hear them So essentially everything

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you need to live differently was already in your

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scriptures And then he says neither will they

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be convinced if someone should rise from the

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dead. Let me help you I did not grab hold of

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this until this study think about this concept

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Luke is writing his gospel after the resurrection

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around 60 AD Remember Jesus Jesus would have

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been crucified in about 33 AD. Luke is writing

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his gospel around 60 AD. The resurrection has

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already happened. Even resurrection won't convince

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people who are committed to a system that protects

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their privilege. So what this parable is actually

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about? Not about an eternal conscience torment

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in hell. It's about the danger of wealth plus

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religion. It's about identity blindness. It's

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about using God to justify indifference. It's

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about missing the kingdom while quoting scripture.

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This parable is about this age, not the next

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one. Or not just the next one. Can you apply

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stuff today? 100%. But the parable is about this

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age. The current age that Luke was writing to.

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The rich man is not in torment because God rejected

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him. He's in torment because he never learned

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how to receive mercy and death stripped away

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the illusion that he never needed it. That's

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important for us to remember. Let's look at Revelation

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chapter 1 verse 17 and 18. It says, When I saw

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him I fell down at his feet as good as dead,

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but he laid his right hand on me and I heard

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his reassuring voice saying, Don't yield to fear.

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I am the beginning and I am the end, the living

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one. I was dead, but now look, I am alive forever

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and ever. And I hold the keys that unlock death

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and the unseen world, Hades." Now we'll read

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a note here from this verse from Dr. Simmons.

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It says, Through the victory of Christ's death

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and resurrection, He now holds the keys of death

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in the unseen world. There is nothing left to

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fear, for He holds all authority. He holds all

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authority. Now, let me put this in here, and

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I'll probably mention this several more times

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through this series, but it is something that

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I want you to wrestle with. I have been taught

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growing up that essentially hell was separation

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from God. But if hell is a place that is separated

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from God that means there is a place that can

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exist outside of God and that place has now become

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a God of its own. Think about that. Rewind that

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if you need to hear that again. Think about this

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concept. If hell is a place That God cannot be

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That is separated from him then that place would

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have to be able to exist outside of God Just

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wrestle with that idea But again not saying I'm

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right I'm just trying to give you a different

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perspective and bring the questions that I myself

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have wrestled before to currently wrestling This

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is probably Within the past six months of wrestling

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some of this All right, then we have Gehenna

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it's the valley jesus referenced in uh When he

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was speaking a lot of times so this is um This

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word would have often most often translated as

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hell in the words of jesus When he spoke had

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been gehenna gehenna was a real valley outside

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of jerusalem It was known as the Valley of Ben

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Hinnom. Now, we'll do a deep dive into this one

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next week, but we will take just a glimpse of

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it tonight. Gehenna, I want you to understand

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this. Gehenna had a very dark history. This would

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have been a place of child sacrifices that would

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have happened there. And we're going to read

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Jeremiah chapter 7 verses 30 through 34. And

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it says this for Yahweh says the people of Judah

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have done what is evil before my eyes. They have

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defiled the house that bears my name by placing

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their detestable idols inside of it. And in the

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Hinnom Valley, they have built shrines of topeth

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to sacrifice their sons and daughters in the

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fire. Something now pay attention, something

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I never commanded, nor did it ever enter my thoughts.

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Therefore. The time is coming, says Yahweh, when

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it will not be known as Tepeth or the Hinnom

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Valley, but the Valley of Slaughter, for people

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will bury their dead in Tepeth until no room

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is left. Their corpses will be food for the birds

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and wild animals, with no one to frighten them

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away. I will silence the sounds of mirth and

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gladness from the cities of Judah and the streets

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of Jerusalem, the happy sounds of wedding feasts,

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the voice of the bride and bridegroom, for the

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land will become a wasteland. Because of this

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history, It became a symbol of judgment and destruction.

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Jesus would have warned in Matthew chapter 5

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verse 29 through 30, if your right eye seduces

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you to fall into sin then go blind in your right

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eye for you're better off losing sight in one

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eye than to have your whole body thrown into

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hell. And if your right hand entices you to sin,

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let it go limp and useless for you're better

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off losing a part of your body than to have it

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all thrown into hell. And again, that word would

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be translated from Gehenna. So Jesus, again,

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is using imagery here not to describe eternity,

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but to warn about consequences. Jesus is using

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common Jewish teaching technique here to communicate

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the seriousness of allowing sin to rule your

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life. He's communicating the seriousness of allowing

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that distorted identity to take hold over your

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life. Understand that on the heels of Jesus saying

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this, He says you have Excuse me. This is on

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the heels of Jesus saying you have heard that

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our ancestors were told You must not murder if

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you commit murder you are subject to judgment

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But I say if you were even angry with someone

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you were subject to judgment if you call someone

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an idiot you were in danger of being brought

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before the court and if You curse someone you

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are in danger of the fires of hell again Gehenna

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So he's not he's not telling people to mutilate

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themselves in this verse if we're to take the

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Bible literally then why are there not more people

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with only one eye or, quite frankly, no eyes

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and no hands? Think about this. Wrestle this

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out. He's moving the conversation from external

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behavior to the condition of the heart. Remember

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the term that I like to repeat a lot of times.

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Behavior follows identity. He's telling these

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people deal radically with whatever is leading

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you away from life I would go as far to say realize

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Jesus dealt radically with whatever is leading

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you away from life and has made you and I a completely

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new creation You just need to hear this truth

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and allow truth to set you free from the bondage

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of being ruled and led by sin a distorted identity

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again Stop and wrestle with some of this. Allow

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Holy Spirit to do the revealing in your own life.

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Because this stuff is important when you begin

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to start wrestling with it. Goodness. So when

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you see hell, he's using the word Gehenna. That's

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what the audience would have pictured instead

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of some distant place of endless torture that

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we've been taught. He's confronting a righteousness

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based only on the outward rule keeping. The religious

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leaders could say, uh, I've never committed adultery,

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but Jesus says, let's talk about what is happening

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in your heart, the place no one but you and I

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can see. I want you to really wrestle with that

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because you, you can, you might can say, Hey,

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I've not murdered anybody. Okay. You might could

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say that. But what about the hate that you hold

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in your heart? Maybe you can control your actions,

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but who's the one that can fix your heart issue?

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And my friend, because I've tried in my life,

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that answer is not you. The Holy Spirit is the

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only one who can do the transformation inside

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of the heart and mind of us as sons and daughters.

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It's not you and I who can boast around saying,

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look what I've done. The marriage that I have

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today with my wife, the relationship that I have

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now with my children that's ever so evolving

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into a better relationship than it used to be,

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is not because I did something right. The only

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thing that I can give credit to is that I have

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yielded more and more to the Lordship of Holy

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Spirit and allowed Holy Spirit to do the transformational

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work inside of my own life. I also think there's

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another layer worth seeing here. Jesus is showing

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that if righteousness depends on perfectly controlling

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every desire, none of us can succeed. The Sermon

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on the Mount steadily raises the standard. You've

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got murder which is caused by anger, adultery

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which is caused by lust, loving your neighbors,

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loving your enemies. Finally, be perfect as your

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father is perfect. If we read only as a new law,

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my friend, we're crushed. But if we read it as

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Jesus revealing the true depth of the human condition,

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it prepares us for the good news that we need

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a new heart, not merely better behavior. And

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that fits with later promises like those in Ezekiel

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36 where God says He will give His people a new

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heart and a new spirit. You see, Jesus isn't

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satisfied with people who merely avoid outward

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sins. He's after hearts that have been transformed

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because transformed hearts naturally produce

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transformed lives. Man, this is good news. We

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just have to wrestle with it. All right, then

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we have the last word here, Tartarus. It's a

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rare, but it's an important word. The Greek word

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Tartarus appears once in the New Testament and

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it's found in Second Peter chapter 2 verse 4

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says now don't forget God had no pity for the

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angels when they sinned but threw them into the

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lowest darkest dungeons of Dungeon of gloom and

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locked them in chains where they are firmly held

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until the judgment of torment so this verse right

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here refers to Rebellious spiritual beings not

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human souls, which is another important distinction

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so I'm going to start wrapping this up. This

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will be one of the longer episodes for this series

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at least. But many of us were taught to fear

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hell before we were taught to understand scripture.

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I would go as far to say before you were taught

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that you can hear Holy Spirit to teach and speak

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to you for yourself. And again, I don't say that

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to say that leaders are not important, but you

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can have a real relationship with Holy Spirit

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yourself who can lead you into all truth. Our

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leaders, our pastors, teachers, prophets, evangelists,

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apostles important? Absolutely. Our fathers and

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mothers important? Absolutely. But but you also

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need to understand you can walk with the Holy

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Spirit and you can have Holy Spirit teach you

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just as much. Fear built on misunderstanding

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is still fear. Truth does not remove reverence.

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Truth removes terror. That was never meant to

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define your relationship with God. I want you

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to remember, 1 John 4 .18 would tell us that

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perfect love Cast out all fear. The word perfect

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love would be telios agape. I'm maybe butchering

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that. If you can speak Greek, by all means have

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at it. But this is the kind of love revealed

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in the Father through the person of Christ. It's

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a love that transforms the one who receives it

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and overflows towards others including enemies.

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It's a mature love, a complete love that Ekobalos

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cast out, which is a forceful removal. It's casting

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a net into a sea, throwing a stone, casting out

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demons, throwing seed on the ground. It implies

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movement from inside to outside. And then we

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have a mature, complete love forcefully removes

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phobos, which is fear, it describes an internal

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response to something perceived as powerful or

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significant. In a negative use, it refers to

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fear that produces anxiety or avoidance. John

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also includes the word kulesis, which means punishment,

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correction, or penalty. So John is saying love

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casts out the fear of punishment. His point is

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if you've come to know the Father's mature love,

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you no longer live in dread of His punishment.

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Think about that. So my friend, this episode

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was simply here to create a foundation for us

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to build on moving forward. Again, when words

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are misunderstood, Papa is misunderstood. When

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Papa is misunderstood, fear replaces trust so

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over the next several weeks we're going to walk

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through these ideas carefully we're going to

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walk through them biblically historically um

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in my prayer is that by the end of this you won't

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just rethink hell but you will rethink the character

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of dad that's important too that's probably one

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of the most important things is that you learn

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to see the father correctly which only happens

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through the holy spirit revealing christ to you

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And my friend, that is all for week one, season

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four. I'm excited to be back with you guys. Um,

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share this episode. My email should be somewhere

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there. Send me an email. Let me know that you're

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listening. Um, what you would like to hear if

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you disagree. I mean, I'm, I don't care the email

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away. Um, share this episode, share this series,

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share this podcast out. Let's get good news out

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for the world to hear. My friend, be blessed.

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Thanks for spending some time with me today on

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the Kingdom Family Podcast. If this episode spoke

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