WEBVTT 00:00:02.819 --> 00:00:06.620 Welcome to the Kingdom Family Podcast where we 00:00:06.620 --> 00:00:09.619 rediscover our identity as sons and daughters 00:00:09.619 --> 00:00:13.019 of Yahweh and learn to live the life of the Kingdom. 00:00:13.660 --> 00:00:19.899 Let's jump in to today's episode. Alright guys, 00:00:19.940 --> 00:00:25.019 we are back on our Rethinking the End Time series. 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:27.539 This week we're going to be talking about one 00:00:27.539 --> 00:00:31.219 of the big ones called the rapture. That's what 00:00:31.219 --> 00:00:33.420 we're going to be talking about this week is 00:00:33.420 --> 00:00:37.340 the topic of the rapture. I wanted to help you 00:00:37.340 --> 00:00:41.280 understand what the rapture actually means. Understanding 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:44.020 some key scriptures that is used to teach it 00:00:44.020 --> 00:00:46.899 that kind of thing and kind of help bring some 00:00:46.899 --> 00:00:51.679 clarity to this topic. Again through this whole 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:53.899 process it's not important to me that you agree 00:00:53.899 --> 00:00:56.869 with me. If at the end of this you still believe 00:00:56.869 --> 00:00:59.969 in a rapture, that is completely fine My aim 00:00:59.969 --> 00:01:03.710 here is to help you get get some critical thinking 00:01:03.710 --> 00:01:08.209 As I said before what I like one of the comments 00:01:08.209 --> 00:01:10.969 and statements I like from Damon Thompson. Don't 00:01:10.969 --> 00:01:15.670 check your brain at the door Think things through 00:01:15.670 --> 00:01:19.370 Ask questions. It's okay. Ask the Holy Spirit 00:01:19.370 --> 00:01:22.870 questions Listen, I'm gonna say something really 00:01:24.010 --> 00:01:27.090 probably, maybe it comes off controversial, maybe 00:01:27.090 --> 00:01:31.790 it comes off offensive, whatever. But if you're 00:01:31.790 --> 00:01:34.329 not allowed to ask questions where you're at, 00:01:34.409 --> 00:01:36.489 if you're not allowed to question your pastor 00:01:36.489 --> 00:01:40.670 or question belief systems or whatever, that's 00:01:40.670 --> 00:01:45.730 a concern. You should be able to ask questions 00:01:45.730 --> 00:01:49.829 and you should be able to arrive to your own 00:01:49.829 --> 00:01:54.519 conclusions without fear of anything else. Holy 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:58.500 Spirit, God gave you a brain for a reason. I 00:01:58.500 --> 00:02:01.939 do not think different beliefs is always a bad 00:02:01.939 --> 00:02:05.620 thing. If we all believe the same thing and agree 00:02:05.620 --> 00:02:09.139 it on every topic, life would be boring. My thing, 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:12.120 as long as we believe that Christ is the center, 00:02:13.300 --> 00:02:15.939 it's because of Jesus, it's through Christ, it's 00:02:15.939 --> 00:02:18.379 by his blood, this kind of thing, as long as 00:02:18.379 --> 00:02:22.520 we can agree on these things, I think as far 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:24.780 as talking about the end times and referring 00:02:24.780 --> 00:02:29.400 to the Holy Spirit as she even, I believe that 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:31.740 that's up for discussion. I think that's up for 00:02:31.740 --> 00:02:34.759 debate. I think that's not that I want to sit 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:36.199 around and argue with a bunch of people, but 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:39.199 I like talking about and hearing people's perspective. 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:43.919 Regardless or not if I believe their perspective, 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:47.319 that's not important. I like to hear other people's 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:50.039 perspective and then I can understand how they 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.319 arrived. To the place that they have I hope that 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.180 makes sense So that's what this really this whole 00:02:56.180 --> 00:02:58.259 thing is about is just rethinking the end times 00:02:58.259 --> 00:03:00.520 given some different perspectives different clarity 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:03.719 to things And like I said in the day if you still 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:05.360 believe in the rapture that that's perfectly 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:09.300 fine. That's no no hard feelings whatsoever But 00:03:09.300 --> 00:03:12.780 I'm hoping you can hear my point of view And 00:03:12.780 --> 00:03:16.699 we'll just take it from there So I want you to 00:03:16.699 --> 00:03:19.740 think about Really if you have a pause this pause 00:03:19.740 --> 00:03:22.639 it, but I want you to think about when you hear 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:27.439 the word rapture What comes to your mind? What 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:32.199 emotions floods you a Lot of people are probably 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:34.860 going to say like people disappearing clothes 00:03:34.860 --> 00:03:38.300 left behind chaos planes falling airplanes crashing 00:03:38.300 --> 00:03:42.939 All kinds of accidents on the freeway The fear 00:03:42.939 --> 00:03:45.759 of being left behind. If you grew up in my generation, 00:03:45.819 --> 00:03:48.659 we had the left behind movies and different things 00:03:48.659 --> 00:03:51.740 of that nature. So left being left behind was 00:03:51.740 --> 00:03:54.699 sometimes a fear. If you're a kid and you come 00:03:54.699 --> 00:03:58.020 home and there's no parent there, did I miss 00:03:58.020 --> 00:04:03.419 the rapture? Like, did I miss something? And 00:04:03.419 --> 00:04:05.819 again, this is not about attacking beliefs. It's 00:04:05.819 --> 00:04:09.060 just about understanding scripture carefully. 00:04:09.180 --> 00:04:11.789 That's it. So I want you to think about what 00:04:11.789 --> 00:04:17.490 does the word rapture actually mean? So the English 00:04:17.490 --> 00:04:22.170 word rapture comes from Latin, and it's rapturo, 00:04:22.189 --> 00:04:24.490 and I may not be saying this right. It's R -A 00:04:24.490 --> 00:04:29.089 -P -T -U -R -O. And it means to cease, it means 00:04:29.089 --> 00:04:33.509 to carry away, and it means to gather. This Latin 00:04:33.509 --> 00:04:37.269 word was used to translate a Greek word in Scripture. 00:04:37.689 --> 00:04:40.550 And I'm gonna read to you 1st Thessalonians 4, 00:04:41.209 --> 00:04:44.550 chapter 4, verses 15 through 17. This is one 00:04:44.550 --> 00:04:47.990 of the main verses connected to the rapture doctrine. 00:04:48.689 --> 00:04:50.430 And again, I'm using the passion translation. 00:04:50.529 --> 00:04:54.509 It says this, this is the word of the Lord, we 00:04:54.509 --> 00:04:57.750 who are alive in him and remain until the Lord 00:04:57.750 --> 00:05:01.009 appears will by no means have an advantage over 00:05:01.009 --> 00:05:03.649 those who have already died for both will rise 00:05:03.649 --> 00:05:06.800 together. For the Lord himself will appear with 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.240 the declaration of victory the shout of an archangel 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:13.500 and the trumpet blast of God He will descend 00:05:13.500 --> 00:05:15.660 from the heavenly realm and command those who 00:05:15.660 --> 00:05:19.860 are dead in Christ to rise first Then we who 00:05:19.860 --> 00:05:22.339 are alive will join them transported together 00:05:22.339 --> 00:05:25.040 in clouds to have an encounter with the Lord 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:29.620 in the air and We will be joined We will be forever 00:05:29.620 --> 00:05:37.100 joined with the Lord so That's that's the main 00:05:37.100 --> 00:05:40.000 point the main scriptures that the rapture idea 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:43.180 comes from but I want to look at a couple things 00:05:43.180 --> 00:05:47.899 based off of that and For example in verse 17 00:05:47.899 --> 00:05:50.800 when it says then we who are alive will join 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:55.680 them transported together That is the Greek word 00:05:55.680 --> 00:06:00.300 harpeso h a r p a z o and that means to seize, 00:06:00.459 --> 00:06:02.860 to snatch, or to take suddenly and forcefully 00:06:02.860 --> 00:06:07.720 which emphasizes a sudden action not a disappearance. 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:10.360 So we're going to look at a few different scriptures 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:13.399 of where that word particular is used just to 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:16.279 help give some clarity and understanding. So 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:19.939 it's used in one part is Acts chapter 8 verses 00:06:19.939 --> 00:06:23.139 39 through 40 and it says when they came up out 00:06:23.139 --> 00:06:26.339 of the water Philip was suddenly snatched up 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:28.699 by the spirit of the Lord and instantly carried 00:06:28.699 --> 00:06:31.920 away to the city of Ashtad where he appeared 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:34.980 preaching the gospel in that city. I want you 00:06:34.980 --> 00:06:38.360 to understand that Philip was not excuse me Philip 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:40.959 was taken from one place and moved elsewhere 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.120 not taken to heaven prematurely and he was not 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:47.680 removed from the earth. It says when they came 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.019 up out of the water Philip was suddenly snatched 00:06:50.019 --> 00:06:53.199 up by the spirit of the Lord and instantly carried 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:55.899 away to the city of Ashtad where he reappeared 00:06:56.189 --> 00:07:01.689 preaching the gospel in that city. Another word 00:07:01.689 --> 00:07:05.110 this place has used is John chapter 10 verses 00:07:05.110 --> 00:07:09.149 12 through 13. It says, but the worker who serves 00:07:09.149 --> 00:07:11.790 only for wages is not a real shepherd, but because 00:07:11.790 --> 00:07:14.850 he has no heart for the sheep, he will run away 00:07:14.850 --> 00:07:17.269 and abandon them when he sees the wolf coming. 00:07:18.069 --> 00:07:20.689 And then the wolf mauls the sheep, drags them 00:07:20.689 --> 00:07:23.529 off, that's the word harpeso, and scatters them. 00:07:24.180 --> 00:07:28.560 This word here means to violently grab or seize 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:33.160 And we have one more reference here in 2nd Corinthians 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:36.360 chapter 12 verse 2 and it says someone I'm acquainted 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:38.759 with who was in union with Christ was swept away 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:43.339 14 years ago in an ecstatic experience He was 00:07:43.339 --> 00:07:46.860 taken or a harpezzo into the third heaven, but 00:07:46.860 --> 00:07:49.540 I'm not sure if he was in his body or out of 00:07:49.540 --> 00:07:53.720 his body only God knows. This moment here speaks 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:58.040 to sudden divine transport or seizure, but the 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:00.620 key is in those three verses that we just read, 00:08:00.740 --> 00:08:03.920 Acts chapter 8, John chapter 10, and 2nd Corinthians 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:06.740 chapter 12, none of this looks like some sort 00:08:06.740 --> 00:08:09.620 of secret or invisible or a permanent removal 00:08:09.620 --> 00:08:12.800 of any type from the earth. The belief of the 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.120 rapture depends on how this word is understood. 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.399 If the word means sudden seizure or gathering, 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:22.699 then the real question becomes, what are people 00:08:22.699 --> 00:08:27.240 being gathered to? Why are they being gathered? 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.699 And what cultural imagery did Paul's audience 00:08:31.699 --> 00:08:35.759 recognize? Again, when you're reading these scriptures 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:38.460 and trying to understand things, you have to 00:08:38.460 --> 00:08:42.600 think about that audience. What did it mean to 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:46.220 them? Paul says that the believers will be caught 00:08:46.220 --> 00:08:50.659 up. Not secretly removed not vanished unnoticed 00:08:50.659 --> 00:08:54.899 but gathered to Christ I've got been tickled 00:08:54.899 --> 00:08:57.519 recently just with all the UFO things I've heard 00:08:57.519 --> 00:08:59.960 people talk about that that's going to be the 00:08:59.960 --> 00:09:02.240 way the rapture happens people people will say 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:06.159 that The church was abducted by aliens that to 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:10.740 me big stretch big stretch But that's the thought 00:09:10.740 --> 00:09:16.279 processes that I have heard from people Even 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.539 regarding the end times and you know again I 00:09:19.539 --> 00:09:23.940 go back to I just heard a minister say this maybe 00:09:23.940 --> 00:09:27.480 it was today. I was listening to a video That 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:29.659 was talking about all the stuff going on about 00:09:29.659 --> 00:09:31.840 how it's so close to the end We're in the final 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:34.919 moments and what they're using to base that off 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:38.759 of is how dark it is And I'm here to tell you 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:41.980 if it's dark around just because the light inside 00:09:41.980 --> 00:09:45.830 of you has not been flipped on You're the answer 00:09:45.830 --> 00:09:49.190 from the darkness around you. Jesus is not coming 00:09:49.190 --> 00:09:52.690 back for a defeated church. And right now, I'm 00:09:52.690 --> 00:09:55.750 sorry to say, even if this rapture idea was true, 00:09:56.549 --> 00:09:58.830 the church is so divided, there's not a chance 00:09:58.830 --> 00:10:01.809 I believe he's coming back anytime soon. Because 00:10:01.809 --> 00:10:05.110 the church, the church is divided on every issue 00:10:05.110 --> 00:10:08.309 it seems like. We will eat our own in a heartbeat. 00:10:08.389 --> 00:10:11.250 It seems like the world has more unity and more 00:10:11.250 --> 00:10:13.649 love than the church does these are some real 00:10:13.649 --> 00:10:16.990 concerns for the body of Christ and some things 00:10:16.990 --> 00:10:21.230 that we as Christians as Christ like individuals 00:10:21.230 --> 00:10:25.509 need to seriously think about repent Metanoia 00:10:25.509 --> 00:10:28.970 and really take a second glance at some things 00:10:28.970 --> 00:10:34.909 Excuse me That's it. You know this path this 00:10:34.909 --> 00:10:37.929 past weekend. We they did some kind of rededication 00:10:37.929 --> 00:10:42.230 for America Because we do turn 250 years old 00:10:42.230 --> 00:10:46.590 as a nation, which is wonderful I love my country 00:10:46.590 --> 00:10:49.470 From what I've heard I've never been outside 00:10:49.470 --> 00:10:52.769 of America, but from what I've heard This is 00:10:52.769 --> 00:10:55.009 probably one of the greatest nations on earth 00:10:55.009 --> 00:10:58.019 Not saying we don't have our flaws Because we 00:10:58.019 --> 00:11:01.059 do but it's one of the greatest nations on on 00:11:01.059 --> 00:11:03.879 planet earth and I'm thankful to be an American 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.279 But the big time I kept hearing was that we're 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:11.620 a Christian nation and my question is Maybe we're 00:11:11.620 --> 00:11:14.519 a Christian nation, but are we very Christ like 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:17.480 do we have a Christ like nature? These are questions 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:20.940 guys. We got to ask we have to be willing to 00:11:20.940 --> 00:11:23.840 Ask the hard questions ask the tough questions 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:27.940 and really think about some of this as we're 00:11:27.940 --> 00:11:31.980 moving on in life and trying to represent Christ, 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:35.679 represent the kingdom. So, rabbit hole for that, 00:11:35.940 --> 00:11:39.720 but anyhow. Again, we're just asking some real 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.639 questions. If it means sudden seizure or gathering, 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:45.059 then there has to be some other questions being 00:11:45.059 --> 00:11:47.720 asked with that. Like, what are we being gathered 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:50.860 to? Why are we being gathered? And what cultural 00:11:50.860 --> 00:11:54.059 imagery did Paul's audience recognize when he 00:11:54.059 --> 00:11:57.080 was writing? Because again Paul says that the 00:11:57.080 --> 00:12:00.419 believers will be caught up not secretly removed 00:12:00.419 --> 00:12:07.740 Going back to 1st Thessalonians 4 17 Then we 00:12:07.740 --> 00:12:09.940 who are alive will join them transported together 00:12:09.940 --> 00:12:12.419 in clouds to have an encounter with the Lord 00:12:12.419 --> 00:12:16.960 in the air Okay, so it's important to note that 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:21.659 in the Roman world when a king visited a city 00:12:21.659 --> 00:12:24.220 Citizens would citizens would go out to meet 00:12:24.220 --> 00:12:27.669 him and escort him back into the city. It had 00:12:27.669 --> 00:12:31.090 nothing to do with leaving permanently. That 00:12:31.090 --> 00:12:33.529 cultural background becomes important when reading 00:12:33.529 --> 00:12:36.509 this because, again, the Greek word harpesdo 00:12:36.509 --> 00:12:39.610 doesn't mean disappearing to heaven. It means 00:12:39.610 --> 00:12:42.970 to seize or to snatch suddenly. It's used for 00:12:42.970 --> 00:12:45.980 wolves grabbing sheep. Philip being suddenly 00:12:45.980 --> 00:12:49.759 moved and Paul being caught up in a vision So 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:52.460 before we build theology around the word we have 00:12:52.460 --> 00:12:55.159 to understand what the word actually means and 00:12:55.159 --> 00:13:03.799 then what it also does not mean so Looking at 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:06.480 my notes here, I'm sorry making sure I'm on the 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:13.419 right Okay So Paul Paul wrote this letter to 00:13:13.419 --> 00:13:18.559 believers worried about dead Christians It was 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:21.940 not about missing a rapture because the rapture 00:13:21.940 --> 00:13:23.960 idea is very new we're going to get to that a 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:26.539 little bit But the rapture idea is very new. 00:13:26.539 --> 00:13:29.179 So Paul was not writing this to about a rapture 00:13:29.179 --> 00:13:32.519 He was writing to this writing this to believers 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:35.000 who were worried about dead Christians and their 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:38.639 fear was Did those who died miss Christ return? 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.480 so Paul is bring in a message of comfort if you 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:45.840 will and he's saying the dead will rise first 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:49.600 no one misses out and no one is forgotten notice 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:52.059 the language here talks about the trumpet of 00:13:52.059 --> 00:13:56.639 god the voice of the archangel shout none of 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:59.440 that sounds secretive or like just a sudden vanishing 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:02.340 it sounds loud it sounds public and it sounds 00:14:02.340 --> 00:14:06.200 visible nothing about these passages that i've 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:10.590 read sounds quiet or hidden So meeting the Lord 00:14:10.590 --> 00:14:12.629 in the air. Let's let's break that down a little 00:14:12.629 --> 00:14:15.809 bit Meeting a king outside a city and escorting 00:14:15.809 --> 00:14:19.409 him back in this was known as a cultural practice 00:14:19.409 --> 00:14:22.649 The citizens would literally go out they would 00:14:22.649 --> 00:14:26.110 meet the king and return with him not leave forever 00:14:26.110 --> 00:14:30.629 and nothing and They would escort him home So 00:14:30.629 --> 00:14:33.389 the meeting is not about escaping earth. It's 00:14:33.389 --> 00:14:36.370 about welcoming the king. It's very important 00:14:36.370 --> 00:14:39.320 to think about You say well Chris you don't believe 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:41.679 in the rapture so you don't believe that Christ 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.240 is coming back and that's not true I Do believe 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:47.539 that Christ will return I do not believe we're 00:14:47.539 --> 00:14:52.860 anywhere close to that Just because I don't believe 00:14:52.860 --> 00:14:54.940 in a rapture does not mean I don't believe that 00:14:54.940 --> 00:14:57.960 Christ is going to return But I believe that 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:00.940 to me and this is what I have Felt Holy Spirit 00:15:00.940 --> 00:15:03.759 speak to me said I can only speak on what I have 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.200 What I believe has been revealed to me I do believe 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:09.559 Christ comes back and I believe that looks like 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:12.740 when we are lighting it up so well that he has 00:15:12.740 --> 00:15:16.200 no choice but to show back up because we're doing 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.840 our job we're advancing the kingdom of heaven 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.419 we're advancing the gospel the good news we are 00:15:22.419 --> 00:15:26.100 we are lighting it up and pushing away darkness 00:15:26.100 --> 00:15:29.500 setting it up for our king our father to come 00:15:29.500 --> 00:15:41.419 back all right so let's um Oh, I'm sorry. Let 00:15:41.419 --> 00:15:44.259 me backtrack just a little bit, because I wanted 00:15:44.259 --> 00:15:47.639 to break down one of his words. The word for 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:53.200 an encounter is the word ampetesis. A -P -A -N 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:56.299 -T -E -S -I -S. And it's a meaning specifically 00:15:56.299 --> 00:15:58.399 going out to meet someone and escorting them 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:00.419 back, not just a casual meeting. That's that 00:16:00.419 --> 00:16:03.159 word I was referring to. So when it says an encounter, 00:16:03.259 --> 00:16:05.679 that's that word. It's literally caught up for 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:09.600 meeting with the Lord, not a rapture. It's not 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:12.320 a rapture idea. All right, so let's look at another 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:16.000 scripture. This is gonna be Matthew chapter 24. 00:16:17.700 --> 00:16:20.460 This is another one that's commonly used to support 00:16:20.460 --> 00:16:23.820 rapture ideas. And it says, concerning that day 00:16:23.820 --> 00:16:26.659 and exact hour, no one knows when it will arrive. 00:16:27.259 --> 00:16:29.740 Not even the angels of heaven, only the Father 00:16:29.740 --> 00:16:32.860 knows. For it will be like it was in the days 00:16:32.860 --> 00:16:35.570 of Noah when the Son of Man appears. Before the 00:16:35.570 --> 00:16:37.549 flood, people lived their lives eating, drinking, 00:16:37.809 --> 00:16:39.990 marrying, and having children. They didn't realize 00:16:39.990 --> 00:16:42.250 the end was near until Noah entered the ark and 00:16:42.250 --> 00:16:44.330 then suddenly the flood came and took them all 00:16:44.330 --> 00:16:47.309 away in judgment. It will happen the same way 00:16:47.309 --> 00:16:50.129 when the Son of Man appears. At that time, two 00:16:50.129 --> 00:16:52.750 men will be working on the farm. One will be 00:16:52.750 --> 00:16:55.429 taken in judgment and the other left. Two women 00:16:55.429 --> 00:16:57.590 will be grinding grain. One will be taken away 00:16:57.590 --> 00:17:01.889 in judgment and the other left. So again, context 00:17:01.889 --> 00:17:03.289 is going to matter here, but I want you to think 00:17:03.289 --> 00:17:08.339 about something. If you remember the story of 00:17:08.339 --> 00:17:12.019 Noah There's a part where Jesus or excuse me. 00:17:12.019 --> 00:17:14.759 There's a part where God promises not to flood 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:18.900 the earth again not to destroy The earth with 00:17:18.900 --> 00:17:22.380 water But the way I have been taught that how 00:17:22.380 --> 00:17:25.119 the end comes is basically the world has just 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:29.660 set on fire and set ablaze Here is my concern 00:17:29.660 --> 00:17:33.579 with that and again before Old me would have 00:17:33.579 --> 00:17:35.200 just took that in and be like, yep, that sounds 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:39.519 right. But the more I am a dad and the more I 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:42.500 allow Holy Spirit to adjust my lens and see things 00:17:42.500 --> 00:17:45.839 differently, I have a problem with that. And 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:49.559 here's my problem. It's almost as like God is 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.559 crossing his fingers when he's telling Noah, 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.480 you know, I'll never destroy the world again 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:57.319 with water. And he's probably thinking to himself, 00:17:58.220 --> 00:18:00.119 one of these days I will destroy it again with 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:05.130 fire. Does that not sound like a problem to you? 00:18:05.950 --> 00:18:08.069 Does this not sound concerning to you? Is that 00:18:08.069 --> 00:18:12.029 how you would do your children? No, I'll never 00:18:12.029 --> 00:18:15.869 destroy with water again. But with fire, I never 00:18:15.869 --> 00:18:18.289 said anything about fire, so I will destroy it 00:18:18.289 --> 00:18:20.930 again, just not with water. We're gonna do it 00:18:20.930 --> 00:18:23.069 with fire next time, because the water just didn't 00:18:23.069 --> 00:18:27.869 seem to be good enough. Just observation, something 00:18:27.869 --> 00:18:31.670 to question. So... And here's some things in 00:18:31.670 --> 00:18:35.970 the story is Jesus compares this to the days 00:18:35.970 --> 00:18:39.309 of Noah. So I want you to ask yourself who was 00:18:39.309 --> 00:18:46.230 taken away in Noah's day? Think about it. Who 00:18:46.230 --> 00:18:48.970 was removed in Noah's day? It was the wicked 00:18:48.970 --> 00:18:53.329 taken by the flood. Who was it that remained? 00:18:54.009 --> 00:18:57.690 It was Noah and his family the righteous. Noah 00:18:57.690 --> 00:19:02.190 is the one who stayed. In Noah's story, being 00:19:02.190 --> 00:19:06.670 taken away was judgment, not rescue. And you 00:19:06.670 --> 00:19:09.390 can see that in other, Matthew chapter 24 verse 00:19:09.390 --> 00:19:13.450 40. At the time, two men working in the farm, 00:19:14.089 --> 00:19:16.910 one will be taken away in judgment, the other 00:19:16.910 --> 00:19:22.829 left. Which one is left, my friend? Two women 00:19:22.829 --> 00:19:25.150 will be grinding grain, one will be taken away 00:19:25.150 --> 00:19:28.289 in judgment, and the other left. Again, ask yourself, 00:19:28.309 --> 00:19:32.000 who was leaving? Who is saying? I don't have 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:33.900 time. I got some different viewpoints when it 00:19:33.900 --> 00:19:36.720 talks about two men, two women. I got some different 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:38.519 viewpoints on that that I'm not getting into 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:41.819 here right now. But it's just important for you 00:19:41.819 --> 00:19:45.400 to notate what scripture is clearly saying. This 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:48.519 is Jesus speaking. Who is the one being left 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:54.259 behind? And who is the one in judgment? Just 00:19:54.259 --> 00:19:57.380 again, don't check your brain at the door. Think 00:19:57.380 --> 00:20:00.900 about this. So now we have context matters a 00:20:00.900 --> 00:20:05.160 lot here because Matthew 24 is largely about 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:08.400 the fall of Jerusalem, the collapse of the temple 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:12.240 system, the end of a covenantial age, and judgment 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:15.160 on corrupt leaderships and violent structures. 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:22.180 That's really important for you to understand. 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:27.079 Jesus had just said in verse 38, and now it is 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:30.349 too late since your city will be left in ruins. 00:20:30.369 --> 00:20:34.190 So what was swept away? Not humanity itself, 00:20:35.569 --> 00:20:42.190 but a corrupt religious system, violent leadership, 00:20:42.950 --> 00:20:49.190 and structures that resisted life. So again, 00:20:49.190 --> 00:20:50.769 it's important to ask these questions. So is 00:20:50.769 --> 00:20:54.549 judgment against people or against what destroys 00:20:54.549 --> 00:21:01.569 people? Across scripture, divine judgment consistently 00:21:01.569 --> 00:21:05.750 targets things like injustice, violence, oppression, 00:21:06.109 --> 00:21:09.349 corruption, false structures, destructive identities. 00:21:09.829 --> 00:21:13.509 The goal with judgment in the eyes of Abba is 00:21:13.509 --> 00:21:18.289 always restoration. It's never annihilation. 00:21:18.650 --> 00:21:23.990 It is constantly restoration. Hebrews 12 29. 00:21:25.900 --> 00:21:29.299 It says, for our God is a holy devouring fire. 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:32.660 The Aramaic can be translated into consuming 00:21:32.660 --> 00:21:36.960 light. And remember, while fire does consume, 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:44.039 it also purifies. So yes, he's a consuming fire, 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:49.240 but his fire is that to purify and to be restorative, 00:21:49.980 --> 00:21:56.299 not to destroy. Not to destroy you anyhow. There 00:21:56.299 --> 00:21:59.319 are things that he's destroying in the fire But 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:02.420 in my opinion what is being destroyed in the 00:22:02.420 --> 00:22:05.359 fire is those things that are still attached 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:10.480 to you from that old Adamic mindset that he has 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:16.019 crucified effectively on the cross All right 00:22:16.019 --> 00:22:18.900 So now let's go back to Matthew chapter 24 verse 00:22:18.900 --> 00:22:22.359 39 They didn't realize then was near until Noah 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:24.519 entered the ark and then suddenly the flood came 00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:27.480 and took off took them all away in judgment it 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:29.680 will appear the same way when the son of man 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:38.339 appears okay so um appear or coming is the word 00:22:38.339 --> 00:22:41.680 parousia and i'm going to again i'll spell that 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:47.480 p a r o u s i a and its basic meaning is presence 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:51.900 arrival official visitation at its core it means 00:22:51.900 --> 00:22:55.619 being present with or arrival into presence not 00:22:55.619 --> 00:22:59.440 just appearing, but arrival in order to be present. 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:06.920 All right, so I want you to think about that 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:09.359 word that I just spelled out for you, and I want 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:11.819 you to understand what that meant in the ancient 00:23:11.819 --> 00:23:15.779 world, okay? This word was used for a visit of 00:23:15.779 --> 00:23:19.000 a king or emperor, so when a ruler came, it was 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:24.119 called periusia. Citizens prepared the city, 00:23:24.269 --> 00:23:27.769 Roads were cleaned. Decorations were made. Officials 00:23:27.769 --> 00:23:31.490 went out to greet the king. The king never destroyed 00:23:31.490 --> 00:23:39.190 the city. He came to visit it. So that's... I'm 00:23:39.190 --> 00:23:41.329 going to talk about Jesus appearing. It's the 00:23:41.329 --> 00:23:44.390 same word there of what I just read to you. That's 00:23:44.390 --> 00:23:47.470 what happens. So this matters because Jesus's 00:23:47.470 --> 00:23:50.210 audience would have known this usage. They would 00:23:50.210 --> 00:23:53.670 have understood this term. And there's much more 00:23:53.670 --> 00:23:55.970 you can get into with studying this word that 00:23:55.970 --> 00:23:58.970 I'm not taking time to dive into that. Again, 00:23:58.970 --> 00:24:00.930 I'm not here to be your answer and source for 00:24:00.930 --> 00:24:04.750 all of it. I want you to go and study this if 00:24:04.750 --> 00:24:07.869 you would like to learn more about it. All right, 00:24:07.869 --> 00:24:09.950 so let's talk about where did the modern rapture 00:24:09.950 --> 00:24:17.609 idea come from. So the modern rapture timeline 00:24:17.609 --> 00:24:22.660 became popular in the 1800s. Now, there are some 00:24:22.660 --> 00:24:25.400 that you can find reference to the word rapture. 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:28.579 I believe it's in the late 1600s. But from what 00:24:28.579 --> 00:24:31.539 I have read and studied, that is not the same 00:24:31.539 --> 00:24:35.140 definition of how we define rapture. How we define 00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:39.180 rapture does not show up until the 1800s. And 00:24:39.180 --> 00:24:43.180 it comes through John Nelson Darby, a Bible teacher 00:24:43.180 --> 00:24:46.660 who developed dispensational theology. In case 00:24:46.660 --> 00:24:48.740 you don't know what that is, that is that this 00:24:48.740 --> 00:24:51.630 is a way some Christians read the Bible. where 00:24:51.630 --> 00:24:54.289 they believe history is divided into different 00:24:54.289 --> 00:24:57.390 time periods, and God deals with people differently 00:24:57.390 --> 00:25:01.670 in each one. So it's spread through, and some 00:25:01.670 --> 00:25:03.730 of you may know this term, it's the Scofield 00:25:03.730 --> 00:25:08.009 Reference Bible, which influenced many, many 00:25:08.009 --> 00:25:13.430 churches. That's where this thing began to come 00:25:13.430 --> 00:25:18.190 out and pick up traction. So this particular 00:25:18.190 --> 00:25:21.049 part, was enough for me when I first looked at 00:25:21.049 --> 00:25:23.589 this to make me start asking some real questions 00:25:23.589 --> 00:25:27.910 uh because I did understand or discovered that 00:25:27.910 --> 00:25:31.089 the rapture was very new it's only like 200 years 00:25:31.089 --> 00:25:34.490 old and if it's in the 1800s we're in 2026 do 00:25:34.490 --> 00:25:37.970 the math that's only about 200 years old that's 00:25:37.970 --> 00:25:42.049 a very very very new concept of our understanding 00:25:42.049 --> 00:25:44.849 of rapture the early church fathers would not 00:25:44.849 --> 00:25:47.809 have believed this um so it's just interesting 00:25:48.410 --> 00:25:51.569 As far as that's concerned Here's just some ideas 00:25:51.569 --> 00:25:53.289 to think about if you ever seen the end time 00:25:53.289 --> 00:25:55.589 movies where people suddenly disappear and planes 00:25:55.589 --> 00:25:59.329 crash because the pilot vanished that whole idea 00:25:59.329 --> 00:26:03.950 came from the dispensational theology That's 00:26:03.950 --> 00:26:09.170 just what that is that God has Different time 00:26:09.170 --> 00:26:15.519 periods Future Rapture then Jesus rules on earth 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:17.140 for a thousand years. That's where a lot of this 00:26:17.140 --> 00:26:24.180 stuff came out. But again, this way of understanding 00:26:24.180 --> 00:26:27.460 the Bible is not ancient. This is not what early 00:26:27.460 --> 00:26:33.579 church fathers believed. So dispensational theology 00:26:33.579 --> 00:26:36.599 isn't the only way to read scripture. Understand 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:39.519 that. Go study some of this stuff out for yourself. 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:44.000 It's definitely, it sure is one. system that 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.599 people use to understand prophecy, in my personal 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:50.359 opinion, it is not the correct way to do that. 00:26:51.220 --> 00:26:54.680 But again, that's just me. You do you. You go 00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:56.740 figure out what makes sense to you. And again, 00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:01.019 if you want to believe in a rapture, that's certainly 00:27:01.019 --> 00:27:05.599 fine. But before the 1800s, Christians believed 00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:07.700 in Christ's returning. They believed in resurrection, 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:12.119 judgment, renewal, but just not... secret disappearance 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.380 events, not us being raptured out and clothes 00:27:14.380 --> 00:27:18.099 being left behind, that kind of thing. Before 00:27:18.099 --> 00:27:20.839 the 1800s, Christians did not believe in a rapture 00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:22.640 like you see in the movies today and like you 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.259 hear about in churches today. They did believe 00:27:25.259 --> 00:27:27.900 Jesus would return, but they did not teach that 00:27:27.900 --> 00:27:30.579 believers would disappear first or escape the 00:27:30.579 --> 00:27:34.900 world. Trying to see if I want to address any 00:27:34.900 --> 00:27:39.259 other notes that I have here. Christians have 00:27:39.259 --> 00:27:41.559 also believed Jesus would return, but they didn't 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:43.819 believe it would be secret or hidden. They believed 00:27:43.819 --> 00:27:47.019 it would be obvious in public. Acts 1 -11 is 00:27:47.019 --> 00:27:50.019 an example of that. This same Jesus will come 00:27:50.019 --> 00:27:53.740 in the same way you saw him go. They expected 00:27:53.740 --> 00:27:57.700 a visible return, not people suddenly vanishing. 00:28:00.380 --> 00:28:02.920 Next week we're going to dive into the tribulation 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:05.799 stuff. We're going to dive into that some so 00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.039 I'm not going to touch on that at the moment. 00:28:09.019 --> 00:28:13.859 Just understand that for over 1700 years the 00:28:13.859 --> 00:28:18.980 church did not teach a rapture idea. This is 00:28:18.980 --> 00:28:22.480 very new. I'm hoping some of this language kind 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.519 of helps you understand that there's more to 00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.299 this than a rapture because it's getting dark 00:28:27.299 --> 00:28:30.460 and we need to get out of here so the world can 00:28:30.460 --> 00:28:33.279 go to hell in a handbasket. That's kind of how 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:36.569 I have felt when it comes to how people look 00:28:36.569 --> 00:28:39.789 at the rapture coming to heaven with me and to 00:28:39.789 --> 00:28:42.549 hell with the rest of y 'all because if we really 00:28:42.549 --> 00:28:46.289 believed in in this rapture idea we would be 00:28:46.289 --> 00:28:48.630 out ministering and loving people just quit our 00:28:48.630 --> 00:28:52.049 jobs because it's about time to get out of here 00:28:52.049 --> 00:28:58.130 so i don't buy into it if i'm wrong i'm still 00:28:58.130 --> 00:29:00.650 going because i know what the prerequisites are 00:29:00.650 --> 00:29:04.660 so that's not a concern for me but My concern 00:29:04.660 --> 00:29:09.299 is if people are so ready to get out of here, 00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:11.799 then they're not going to be prepared to stay 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.740 here. And we need some sons and daughters to 00:29:15.740 --> 00:29:19.359 be ready to stay here and release the kingdom 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.019 upon the earth, to get involved with politics, 00:29:22.220 --> 00:29:24.420 to get involved with the school systems, to get 00:29:24.420 --> 00:29:28.670 involved with just our world in general and go 00:29:28.670 --> 00:29:31.049 find your place in it wherever God is calling 00:29:31.049 --> 00:29:34.690 you to be and you go jump into that avenue and 00:29:34.690 --> 00:29:38.130 release hope release life speak life declare 00:29:38.130 --> 00:29:41.450 declare life over situations be the light of 00:29:41.450 --> 00:29:44.369 the world that is within you let that light out 00:29:44.369 --> 00:29:51.109 let that hope out let that glory out um yeah 00:29:51.109 --> 00:29:55.839 that's kind of where we're at So again, I'm hoping 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:58.380 I was just giving this on my notes to make sure 00:29:58.380 --> 00:30:02.000 I was done. I hope this helps you. I hope this 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.619 helps you understand that the rapture is a very 00:30:04.619 --> 00:30:08.480 new concept. Early Church Fathers would not have 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.759 believed in it. There is meanings for these words 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:13.539 that Paul was using, especially in First Thessalonians 00:30:13.539 --> 00:30:16.740 and then some other places that we read. These 00:30:16.740 --> 00:30:19.700 words have context and it's important. Context 00:30:19.700 --> 00:30:21.960 matters. Don't check your brain at the door. 00:30:22.019 --> 00:30:24.980 Go and... dig into some research, go study it 00:30:24.980 --> 00:30:29.700 for yourself. That's my challenge to you. That's 00:30:29.700 --> 00:30:35.140 my encouragement for you is to go and study yourself. 00:30:35.740 --> 00:30:38.420 I hope this helps you, my friend. Next week we'll 00:30:38.420 --> 00:30:41.920 jump into the tribulation. 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