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Before time had a name there was a garden a place

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where heaven and earth walked as one This is

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the echoes of Eden Where we rediscover ancient

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roots and awaken to our eternal purpose All right

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guys welcome back to the podcast This week, we're

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going to talk about the power of words and speaking

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life into your family. I am joined again by my

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lovely Brad, my wife, my best friend, my ride

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or die, everything over here. She's with me again.

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Say hello, everybody. Hello. So I'll kick it

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off with a scripture probably everybody knows

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but Proverbs 18 21 that says your words are so

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powerful This is the passion translation your

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words are so powerful that they will kill or

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give life and the talkative person will reap

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the consequences Another translation basically

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says You know you had the tongue you have the

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power of life and death and the tongue But you

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know speaks a lot of volumes when you really

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take that to heart and it's I Had this this episode

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planned for this week and what a day for to talk

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about the power of your words Just because today

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has been a struggle day for me I think we're

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just being frustrated and we'll just be transparent

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and vulnerable here. Hopefully it helps somebody

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else because I'm not perfect. I'm still working

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my way and allowing Holy Spirit to do whatever

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he needs to do in me and allow the room for Transformation

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to happen within and I know I'm still in a journey

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and still in a process got a long way to go But

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saying all that to basically say basically bait

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made both of my daughters feel like I hated them

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today Just by my words Well, let's say more of

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your home let's say words and home maybe And

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it, you know, as a dad, as their dad, as your

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husband, we had to have that family conversation

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tonight that that's never what I want them to

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feel at all. And it just amazes me the conversation

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and How much Kaylin our ten -year -old can come

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back and come back with so much wisdom and grace

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and grace Like she It's funny when you say that

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it she really lives up to her name pure grace

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And it was just even when she told me she says

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daddy I forgive you She says I forgave you before

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you even said anything And, you know, she recognizes

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we all have those moments. But I just found it

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interesting when I realized what we're doing

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this podcast on that this was the day that I've

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had. I think we just have to be real and talk

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about these moments because we all have them.

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Yeah. But it's what you do. What you do with

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those moments like the conversation at the end

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of the day to apologize and explain to your children

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You know, hey, it's okay to have a bad day. We

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all have bad days and you know, I Probably said

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some things that I shouldn't have and I apologize

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and that's not okay. It just Gives them that

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vulnerable side to see hey, it's okay to apologize.

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It's okay to you know, mess up sometimes. Yeah.

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And I don't know that if I'm being, again, if

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I'm just being vulnerable and real, I don't know

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that previous me would have done that. Um, so

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I think it, I think it shows growth on my part

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for that. Yeah. I don't think. I don't remember

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you doing that a long time ago um and not saying

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you know i'm sure somebody well you just did

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that so you could say that but no i think before

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um you just kind of expected everybody to apologize

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or every sorry everybody to forgive you without

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having to you know apologize you just try well

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i had a bad day and just chalk it up to that

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and then You need to figure that out. I don't

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need to address my attitude or my, maybe something

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I said or whatever. Cause I really don't even

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remember what I said to make them feel that way

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or what tone I had, but just knowing that as

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a dad when that's what you, your kids feel like

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in that moment and was your, your tone. or an

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action that you took or a statement that you

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made that made them feel that way. That hurts.

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Yeah. And did I have to? No, I've had plenty

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of times where I've not done that, but I felt

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like that was the right thing to do to be vulnerable

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and transparent for my kids to see. Daddy don't

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always get it right. Yeah. Well, I think it makes

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them realize too, hey, it's okay to have a bad

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day or an off day every once in a while. It's

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a normal thing, you know, but it's not okay to

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make people feel bad just because that you're

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having an off day. And, you know, so many times

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we think and look at our kids, you know, they

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have off days. Yeah. But yet we fuss at them

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for it. Yeah. And it's like, we can get up, we

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can have a bad day, we can go through the motions,

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apologize, and it's okay. But yet the day that

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they have a bad day, we chalk it up to, oh, well,

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they're being disobedient or they're being mad

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or, you know, they're being bad or something

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like that. But it's like, we, we have double

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standards. Like we're allowed to have bad days,

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but they're not, but they're not, and they have

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way bigger emotions at that age than we do at

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ours. So I mean, there's still much, you know,

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I know we're still figuring life out, but they're

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still in a point of at their young ages, they're

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still at a point of trying to figure out life.

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And it's like you said, I feel like, I think

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you pointed this out to me. I would have never,

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I don't think I would have picked up on it without

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you saying it, but it's the fact that we expect

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them not to have those. I mean, you're a kid,

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why do you have a bad day? Well, because they're

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human too. Well, and their bodies, they're trying

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to regulate all of their emotions and they're

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not. physically or mentally mature enough to

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do that yet. Yeah. I mean, they're, they're handling

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some of these emotions and stuff and trying to

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figure out what to do with these emotions. Um,

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and what, you know, how, what is this feeling

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that I'm having and how do I navigate it and

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how do I express When I get upset, how do I express

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myself when I get angry? How do I express myself

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when I'm How do I express myself when my feelings

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are hurt? How do I express myself when I'm sad?

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They don't they don't know how to express their

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emotions I don't think we know how to express

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our emotions sometimes. I don't think I know

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how to express my emotions sometimes. Yeah. So

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they're learning, I'm learning, you're learning,

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we're all learning. I think I've said this before,

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our kids didn't come with manuals. You know,

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you take Kaylin and Trinity and Trinity is very

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big in her feelings and her emotions. Kaylyn

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is not so much at the moment Although you can

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kind of see that preteen stuff starting. I Don't

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know how that's who? Y 'all pray But you can

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see some of those emotions starting and her taking

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Which I guess she's always been that way. She

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takes more stuff to heart. Yeah, she does But

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that's just why it's important to As the parent,

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as the dad especially, one of the things I'm

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learning is how powerful your words are. Because,

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especially being the head of the house, the words

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that I speak and the tone that I have, the attitude,

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I shape the atmosphere. I think, in my opinion,

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the father shapes more of the identity for the

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child. But then they also, as parents, we have

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to create the emotional safety and culture in

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our home. Right. Which is, you know, this is

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stuff growing up you didn't hear about, or at

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least I didn't. but when you really start trying

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to be intentional with your parenting and you

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feel like you are on this journey with the Holy

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Spirit allowing her to do whatever she needs

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to do as far as in a sense where I feel like

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I'm at right now the Holy Spirit is kind of mothering

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in a way given that I don't know how to explain

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that. Like a nurture, nurturing. Yes. Because

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I mean, we'll talk about this. We've talked about

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this before. As far as just my personal journey,

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I'm on this journey of, I would have said deconstruction

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before because that was the term everybody used,

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although I didn't think that was accurate. Bill

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Vanderbush did a post recent, I think this past

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week that I shared, it's more reconstruction.

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But when you're doing a lot of that, the Holy

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Spirit has to kind of mother you, I feel like

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in a sense. I know that can get me in trouble,

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but Holy Spirit can do either or, depends on

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what you need in that moment. And that's the

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same thing in the house. It's like I told Trinity

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earlier sometimes when she has those big emotions.

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I Don't know how to handle that. So I have to

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like lean on you Because I struggle when she

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just starts crying over silly things But it's

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still I have to take those moments and Maybe

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not in the moment reflect but later through the

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evening reflect What can I do differently? How

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can I set that tone? How can I speak? And one

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of the things like I like to tell them sometimes

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if I'm thinking about it and trying to be intentional

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with it is that's not who you are You're not

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You're not a crybaby essentially Even with And

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I know I think you told me there was more to

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the story what you found out the next day, but

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when We thought she was lying when she came up

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here today, and I told her you're not a liar

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One of the things I try to tell my kids is when

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I hear them say I'm sorry. No, you're not That's

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not who you are. You're not sorry. I Don't like

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hearing them express that There's a difference

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between apologizing, but I don't want to hear

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them say I'm sorry Because you're not sorry You're

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not a sorry kid. I want to kind of remove that

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language from them. Even today when Kaylin was

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in her room and I was fussing trying to get her

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to clean her own room, you know, one of the comments

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I heard her make that I addressed with her personally

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later was she made some kind of comment about

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how I suck at this. And I had to sit down with

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her. I said, That's not true. Like you don't

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suck at stuff. I said, you're a very smart little

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girl. I said, this is your room. I said, you

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can do this. May take more effort sometimes if

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you're not good at something. I said, but you

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don't suck at it. I don't want to hear you say

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stuff like that. Does that make sense? I feel

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like I'm just rambling a little bit, but does

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that make sense? I just think we have to be intentional

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and really think and reflect about how much what

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we say and how we say it shapes the atmosphere

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in our home. It shapes the atmosphere in the

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home that shapes your kid's identity. It shapes

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Their inner confidence their inner confidence

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it shapes Which is this is kind of where I feel

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like I'm at personally now is Because Holy Spirit

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is taking me on this journey and I'm leaning

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into it is I'm seeing the things that I missed

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before and how many my kids feel in a previous

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season and they're still in this struggle point

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of Getting used to the new version. I guess that

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you can quote it of dad and Learning that they

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can come to me when before I guess I really made

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them feel like they cannot Yeah And then you

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have days like today where I feel like I've went

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backwards and you have to address it Because

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I don't want them. I don't want them continually

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being afraid to come to me. I want them to come

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to me And then like I said, as a dad, you shape

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the culture of your home. What do you want the

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house to look like? These are questions you really,

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I don't know that, at least not for me, you talk

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about this kind of stuff enough. And I feel like

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we should be talking more about this as families,

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as men, as parents. What do you want your family

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culture to look like? Like a vision. Yeah. Like

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what's your vision for your family? Which, I

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mean, we have a 10 year old right now who's,

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she has this grand plan, uh, that mommy and daddy

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are going to buy acreage somewhere and they can,

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uh, her house will be here. Her sister's house

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is over here. Her brother's house will be over

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here. Mommy and daddy's house. I mean, she's

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got this family compound thing. Planned out planned

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out and you know, I kind of like it. Yeah, like

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I can I can kind of envision that To where they

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can have their own space, but yet we all can

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be together, too I'm kind of here for that if

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that's what they want to do But that goes back

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to what culture do you create in your family?

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Like is this a Excuse me. Is this a safe space

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for them? Am I a safe space? Are you a safe space

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that they can run to? No matter what feelings

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they're juggling, whether it be the anger, the

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sadness, the hurt feelings or excitement and

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being happy, are you a safe place that they can

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run to? And they know that there's no judgment,

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no condemnation, no guilt, no shame, none of

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that coming off of you toward them. But also,

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are you listening? Like really listening when

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they approach you? Because it's one thing to

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be a safe space if they feel comfortable running

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to you. But do they feel heard once they get

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there? Or are you playing on your phone guilty?

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Same. But it's like, and I picked up on earlier.

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When they was going to bed, Kaylin was trying

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to tell me something before he cut my hair. Kaylin

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was trying to tell me something and I had my

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phone out just scrolling and she said, no, are

00:19:17.779 --> 00:19:21.359
you listening? And so at that point I realized

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I'm gonna put my phone down because she really

00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:27.759
wants to tell me something. But that's, you know,

00:19:28.019 --> 00:19:30.500
that's a good point is are you, are we listening

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to them? Are we making them feel seen and heard?

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and not just tolerated. I mean, so you think

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about those as, I guess it begs the question,

00:19:47.339 --> 00:19:50.740
how do you intentionally raise kids who feel

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safe to be fully themselves? I think it's, you

00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:02.670
know, I think I've told you this before, but

00:20:02.670 --> 00:20:05.490
in one of my quiet times, you know, God has spoke

00:20:05.490 --> 00:20:13.589
to me and we, a lot of times are the limits for

00:20:13.589 --> 00:20:19.069
our kids. Like a lot of times we put limits and

00:20:19.069 --> 00:20:23.589
we speak things over them that we shouldn't.

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And, you know, one prime example was I had ask

00:20:30.049 --> 00:20:35.569
Kaylin to do something and she, you know, which

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is what I would feel she smarted off and was

00:20:39.650 --> 00:20:43.349
in all reality, she was just asking a question.

00:20:43.470 --> 00:20:48.089
Yeah. But I automatically was like, don't be,

00:20:48.210 --> 00:20:52.609
don't be a smart aleck, you know, and it hit

00:20:52.609 --> 00:20:54.289
me because she turned to me and she's like, well,

00:20:54.369 --> 00:20:56.910
what's that? She had no idea what you're talking

00:20:56.910 --> 00:21:02.079
about. she does this, you know, what what we

00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:05.720
put on others because others, you know, treat

00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:08.720
us that way with disrespect and sometimes that

00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:14.240
we automatically put those limits and those names

00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:18.660
on our kids. Yes. And they don't mean it at all

00:21:18.660 --> 00:21:20.539
because they don't even know what it is. Yeah.

00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:24.519
And so then they hear mom and dad say, oh, well,

00:21:24.579 --> 00:21:27.759
they said this. Did this and they said I was

00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:30.299
being a smart alec. So then when someone else

00:21:30.299 --> 00:21:33.460
does that to them now, they know Hey, that's

00:21:33.460 --> 00:21:37.460
that's being smart So they really don't understand

00:21:37.460 --> 00:21:40.380
what it means, but they know that we said that

00:21:40.380 --> 00:21:42.940
that's what it was So then they pick up on it

00:21:42.940 --> 00:21:46.559
somewhere else But in all reality a lot of times

00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:50.019
our kids are truly just innocent asking questions

00:21:50.019 --> 00:21:53.440
and we just don't want to take the time to Explain

00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:58.069
it Or maybe we are in a hurry or in a mood ourselves

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and we take it the wrong way and so you said

00:22:00.069 --> 00:22:03.190
that and it made me think we we had as parents

00:22:03.190 --> 00:22:07.950
we have to Learn how to and it's hard to do this

00:22:07.950 --> 00:22:12.369
and this I feel like in this day and time But

00:22:12.369 --> 00:22:19.130
to slow down And not be so busy busy busy and

00:22:19.130 --> 00:22:24.660
I don't know I'm totally guilty of this So I

00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:27.019
don't have the answer of what that looks like

00:22:27.019 --> 00:22:34.880
yet, but being able to slow down and Make sure

00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:38.299
they understand that you hear they that you hear

00:22:38.299 --> 00:22:43.960
them creating that space for them and Then slowing

00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:47.240
down to teach them in those critical moments

00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:54.059
So they can understand You know and it goes I

00:22:54.059 --> 00:22:57.200
guess to me it kind of goes back to the When

00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.500
they mess up or whatever it's important to I

00:23:00.500 --> 00:23:02.160
feel like it's important to tell them. This is

00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:06.839
not who you are Like we're the ones that label

00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:12.119
them first, but we are and Sometimes I speak

00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:15.259
for myself, but sometimes we label at a frustration

00:23:15.259 --> 00:23:19.720
We label because we've had a bad day we label

00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:23.369
because Our past hurts and experiences. Our past

00:23:23.369 --> 00:23:26.869
hurts and stuff. And so we throw those labels

00:23:26.869 --> 00:23:32.009
at our kids. And then subconsciously, I think

00:23:32.009 --> 00:23:35.750
they start picking up on some of this. And so

00:23:35.750 --> 00:23:38.470
then they start allowing these thoughts that

00:23:38.470 --> 00:23:41.630
we've expressed begin to build their identity.

00:23:42.230 --> 00:23:45.289
And that's what we have to watch. Our words.

00:23:45.670 --> 00:23:48.930
Watch our words. And you know, like I said, with

00:23:48.930 --> 00:23:51.930
Trinity, I struggle more. Trinity is very big

00:23:51.930 --> 00:23:53.950
in her feelings and I don't know what to do with

00:23:53.950 --> 00:23:58.910
that a lot of times. That takes a lot more. Kaylin

00:23:58.910 --> 00:24:02.930
on the other hand acts just like me. Yes. That

00:24:02.930 --> 00:24:04.970
brings a whole nother level of frustration because

00:24:04.970 --> 00:24:07.029
I see a little meaning in me and I'm like, oh

00:24:07.029 --> 00:24:09.690
my Lord, is this is me coming out and how do

00:24:09.690 --> 00:24:14.410
I speak to a younger female version of me in

00:24:14.410 --> 00:24:16.910
this moment? That's not always easy to do. But

00:24:16.910 --> 00:24:18.789
then you have, like I said, Trinity, who was

00:24:18.789 --> 00:24:21.630
very big in her feelings. And I'm like, I don't

00:24:21.630 --> 00:24:29.910
know. How do you do that? She's very big in her

00:24:29.910 --> 00:24:36.509
feelings, but she also correlates, you know,

00:24:36.789 --> 00:24:40.490
punishment with being bad and not love. Yes.

00:24:41.089 --> 00:24:46.690
So you have to punish her. in a way that it's

00:24:46.690 --> 00:24:51.069
explained very well. And you have to also reassure

00:24:51.069 --> 00:24:55.369
her while you're punishing her. That you do love

00:24:55.369 --> 00:24:58.349
her. She is still loved and it has nothing to

00:24:58.349 --> 00:25:02.069
do with how we feel about her. It's just that

00:25:02.069 --> 00:25:04.970
we are trying to teach her. It's a difference

00:25:04.970 --> 00:25:11.269
between calling out identity and calling out

00:25:11.269 --> 00:25:15.960
behavior. Like I see this behavior right now,

00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:19.019
but this behavior does not get to identify you,

00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:22.680
right? So let me continue so I'm going to address

00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.079
the behavior, but let me speak to your identity

00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:29.740
That you are still loved but we this behavior

00:25:29.740 --> 00:25:35.359
is not acceptable in this behavior How can I

00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:38.059
say that? the behavior that you're displaying

00:25:38.059 --> 00:25:41.420
right now is out of character from who you are.

00:25:41.779 --> 00:25:45.660
Does that make sense? Yeah. And you know, it

00:25:45.660 --> 00:25:48.660
even, and I know we've talked about this and

00:25:48.660 --> 00:25:51.500
I think you've sent me videos or your Facebook

00:25:51.500 --> 00:25:55.220
reels on some of this stuff, but it even to me,

00:25:55.220 --> 00:25:58.599
I guess, speaks to phrases that we should learn

00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:02.700
to eliminate. Now I'm talking this through out

00:26:02.700 --> 00:26:09.480
loud. But phrases to like you always or you never

00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:13.000
or Why can't you like these are stuff that I

00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:17.059
use? Constantly that I need to correct and comparing

00:26:17.059 --> 00:26:19.819
them to each other comparing them to each other

00:26:19.819 --> 00:26:22.180
but like making this the general phrase of you

00:26:22.180 --> 00:26:28.400
always do this or You never do what I ask I'm

00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:31.940
horrible to use these but I was reading some

00:26:31.940 --> 00:26:35.539
of this stuff for this podcast, but instead of

00:26:35.539 --> 00:26:39.140
saying that, you know, changing it to you're

00:26:39.140 --> 00:26:45.240
growing, or that's not who you are. Instead of

00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:49.039
the, you always do this, you never do this. Because

00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.079
then it goes back to a certain while ago, they

00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:54.519
start picking up on some of this stuff subconsciously,

00:26:55.259 --> 00:26:58.740
and it begins to identify them. And they think,

00:26:58.819 --> 00:27:02.180
well, this is how I am. Yep. then you have a

00:27:02.180 --> 00:27:06.200
ten -year -old today saying I suck at this well

00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:08.700
that means somewhere along the line she's picked

00:27:08.700 --> 00:27:13.619
up by words that I've said or whatever that she

00:27:13.619 --> 00:27:16.720
actually sucks at doing whatever it was she said

00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.980
she's like that because she can never keep her

00:27:19.980 --> 00:27:25.500
room clean yep which you know I told you this

00:27:25.500 --> 00:27:29.440
recently I said it must just be a kid thing I

00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:31.799
didn't I don't remember having those issues.

00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:36.059
I was very still am very particular about where

00:27:36.059 --> 00:27:40.039
stuff goes and I like a clean a Clean house or

00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:43.500
whatever, but I'm also learning Well, our kids

00:27:43.500 --> 00:27:46.859
are also very very blessed. They are extremely

00:27:46.859 --> 00:27:52.099
blessed. We were overly abundantly blessed But

00:27:52.099 --> 00:27:55.660
I'm you know, I'm 35 we've been married for 13

00:27:55.660 --> 00:28:02.400
years Is that right now? 12, 25, yeah. 13 years,

00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:10.200
we got three kids. I am just now learning that

00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:15.119
it's okay if the house just looks livable. And

00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.359
I know that's horrible to say, but it's okay

00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:23.240
if the house looks livable. Like. Someone lives

00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:26.880
here. Like we have three kids. We have a... Shut

00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:33.420
up. You know what I mean. Lived in. This house

00:28:33.420 --> 00:28:36.980
looks lived in. This house looks like we have

00:28:36.980 --> 00:28:40.839
three kids. This house looks like we now have

00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.579
a almost a one -year -old who's now crawling

00:28:44.579 --> 00:28:49.059
and going everywhere. This house looks like you

00:28:49.059 --> 00:28:51.589
have a one -year -old who... sits in his little

00:28:51.589 --> 00:28:54.369
playthings and throws toys in the floor and for

00:28:54.369 --> 00:28:57.450
no apparent reason and snacks and then smashes

00:28:57.450 --> 00:29:01.329
the snacks and then that's what you have yeah

00:29:01.329 --> 00:29:03.769
um it looks like you have two little girls who

00:29:03.769 --> 00:29:05.690
when they come in shoes go off and then they

00:29:05.690 --> 00:29:08.990
get left there until i say whose shoes are these

00:29:08.990 --> 00:29:14.329
and is this where they go um whose cup is this

00:29:14.329 --> 00:29:18.569
whose snack wrapper is this but all this is just

00:29:18.569 --> 00:29:24.460
normal stuff And my job as dad is just to simply

00:29:24.460 --> 00:29:27.319
help them learn how to pick up after themselves

00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:29.380
and be responsible. Which is kind of crazy considering

00:29:29.380 --> 00:29:32.000
that you grew up with two siblings and I had

00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:37.920
none. I know. I kind of thought you might would

00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.480
have figured that out before now. But I guess

00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:45.799
it's just because my space was always organized.

00:29:48.619 --> 00:29:51.700
But when you have But that was also one room

00:29:51.700 --> 00:29:55.019
I Understand this like we don't have to call

00:29:55.019 --> 00:29:59.400
me out on the podcast They're not listen. I'll

00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.400
work hard for my house to look like it's been

00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:09.200
struck by a tornado But you know and I have to

00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:14.700
remember you homeschool you're a caregiver and

00:30:14.700 --> 00:30:17.700
now you homeschool both girls, which Kaylin's

00:30:17.700 --> 00:30:21.180
getting a little bit more independent. But then

00:30:21.180 --> 00:30:23.619
on top of that, you have a one -year -old who

00:30:23.619 --> 00:30:27.980
you're kind of at his beck and call. Like when

00:30:27.980 --> 00:30:32.619
he's upset, guess what? Mommy has to be there.

00:30:32.619 --> 00:30:37.579
Yeah. Cause he doesn't, he doesn't understand.

00:30:37.779 --> 00:30:41.940
He doesn't care. He doesn't care. Like I am priority

00:30:41.940 --> 00:30:45.880
number one right now. Just like we had to pause

00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.779
this podcast because he woke up from his sleep

00:30:48.779 --> 00:30:54.299
and was getting fussy all over this. So a lot

00:30:54.299 --> 00:30:58.880
of this is just learning as you go. I do feel

00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:02.220
like, and you can correct me live in person right

00:31:02.220 --> 00:31:04.079
here if you would like, but I do feel like I

00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.759
have grown in not getting as frustrated with

00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:14.900
the house. Times, there's days I'm like, let's

00:31:14.900 --> 00:31:18.319
clean the house up a little bit. I don't like

00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:22.279
it looking trashy, so to speak, but it's lived

00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.420
in. And if people don't like that, don't come

00:31:26.420 --> 00:31:28.220
visit. I don't know what to tell you. Well, they

00:31:28.220 --> 00:31:30.019
must not like it because we won't get a lot of

00:31:30.019 --> 00:31:39.559
visitors. Eat hell. Scroll through my notes here

00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:46.380
a little bit. That's what, you know, you think

00:31:46.380 --> 00:31:50.900
too, even when we discipline, how do you, you

00:31:50.900 --> 00:31:53.359
have to be conscious and how do you word discipline

00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:59.940
in ways that shapes their identity and re -discipline

00:31:59.940 --> 00:32:04.980
in a way that reinforces who they are, but cancels

00:32:04.980 --> 00:32:07.440
out the behavior that they're, you're disciplining

00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:14.180
for. Does that make sense? Yes. And, you know,

00:32:14.180 --> 00:32:17.240
how do you do that? I'm also understanding that's

00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.880
exactly what the Holy Spirit and what Papa does

00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:26.059
for us. I know we grew up with some of this notion,

00:32:26.380 --> 00:32:29.660
at least I did, with there's times that he scolds

00:32:29.660 --> 00:32:35.480
you. Or, you know, that he kind of like, um,

00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.480
David Thompson, Jason Clark always use the analogy

00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.279
of you have the good cop, bad cop. Jesus is the

00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:44.740
good cop, the father is the bad cop, and he's

00:32:44.740 --> 00:32:46.380
protecting you from the father. This is kind

00:32:46.380 --> 00:32:48.900
of some of the thought processes I grew up with.

00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.559
Now I'm learning that not to be true and knowing

00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:56.619
that he does not come and scold you. And just

00:32:56.619 --> 00:32:59.460
as we don't want our kids coming to us and telling

00:32:59.460 --> 00:33:02.319
us how horrible they are, how worthless they

00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:07.180
are, he doesn't want that from us. And he doesn't

00:33:07.180 --> 00:33:10.140
sit there and scold us over it. a decision. It's

00:33:10.140 --> 00:33:14.720
more of like a nudge of, well, it's more of a

00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:19.799
nudge. Like that's not who you are. That's not

00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:23.579
what you do. That's not what you do. Um, it's

00:33:23.579 --> 00:33:26.140
like, I believe I got this from Damon Thompson

00:33:26.140 --> 00:33:28.660
and this is what I believe behavior follows identity.

00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:33.059
So he speaks more to, as far as I'm concerned,

00:33:33.059 --> 00:33:36.319
he speaks more to us about our identity of who

00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:41.609
we are in Christ in Christ in us. And the more

00:33:41.609 --> 00:33:45.470
he reinforces that, the behavior takes care of

00:33:45.470 --> 00:33:50.549
itself. So how do you turn that for your kids?

00:33:52.250 --> 00:33:55.490
I'm very thankful right now that our kids are

00:33:55.490 --> 00:33:58.690
actually really good kids. They're very good

00:33:58.690 --> 00:34:06.710
kids. Other than trying to teach them how to

00:34:06.710 --> 00:34:10.309
get along with each other sometimes. and respect

00:34:10.309 --> 00:34:15.909
boundaries. But, you know, it's just you talk

00:34:15.909 --> 00:34:19.590
them through it because just like a teacher in

00:34:19.590 --> 00:34:22.809
a classroom, you know, you have these kids and

00:34:22.809 --> 00:34:25.849
you think that your kids should automatically

00:34:25.849 --> 00:34:30.150
know these things because, well, they live in

00:34:30.150 --> 00:34:32.269
the same house as you, which is obviously not

00:34:32.269 --> 00:34:35.469
a good reason. But, you know, that's a lot of

00:34:35.469 --> 00:34:38.760
times what we assume is like I know this stuff,

00:34:38.860 --> 00:34:43.260
so you should know this stuff. But we are the

00:34:43.260 --> 00:34:47.039
ones that teach them these things. We can't depend

00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:51.280
on other people to teach them just so we don't

00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:55.139
have to. Just because we don't want to deal with

00:34:55.139 --> 00:34:57.960
it. No, it's our responsibility, it's our job

00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:04.000
to make sure they know how to do things and why

00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:09.460
we do them. in the end it gives them confidence

00:35:09.460 --> 00:35:13.139
to you know because they just want to know why

00:35:13.139 --> 00:35:16.159
a lot of times it's it's not them being disrespectful

00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.059
or being um smart they're asking questions they

00:35:20.059 --> 00:35:23.460
really want to know why they just try to understand

00:35:23.460 --> 00:35:31.519
but that's good um another thing too when you

00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:34.539
think about them and here's a statement that

00:35:34.539 --> 00:35:41.019
just full Kids learn their internal voice from

00:35:41.019 --> 00:35:47.500
their parents external voice And if that don't

00:35:47.500 --> 00:35:49.539
make you as a parent stop and think about what

00:35:49.539 --> 00:35:53.599
you're saying out loud yeah, not just and and

00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:58.139
Okay, so not just to them But even how you talk

00:35:58.139 --> 00:36:02.480
to yourself and again guilty as charged how you

00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:07.119
talk to yourself in front of them Well, and it's

00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.300
like, and I've made statements before, even a

00:36:10.300 --> 00:36:12.000
friend of Kaylin out, like I'll do something

00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:16.599
and go stupid. And Kaylin has corrected me saying

00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:20.199
you're not stupid daddy. Well, it's like, we

00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:22.800
think a lot of times we, you know, the golden

00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:24.900
rule, treat others the way you want to be treated.

00:36:25.059 --> 00:36:27.480
But for some reason that doesn't apply to our

00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:32.239
kids. Good point. You know, just because what

00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:37.139
they're kids. That's a good point. Like, do I

00:36:37.139 --> 00:36:42.440
want to be, um, yelled at as an adult? Do I want

00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.980
to be, um, you know, shifted to the side and

00:36:46.980 --> 00:36:51.239
be shamed because I don't know something? No.

00:36:51.380 --> 00:36:53.239
So then what makes you think that your kids want

00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:55.539
to feel that way? It's, you know, it's one of

00:36:55.539 --> 00:37:00.139
those things too. I think growing up, there was

00:37:00.139 --> 00:37:05.639
this, for me, there was this mentality of. If

00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:11.099
you yell and scream it shows authority and leadership

00:37:11.099 --> 00:37:15.719
I Mean even and I know I can get excited when

00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:18.579
I'm when I'm teaching or ministering. I don't

00:37:18.579 --> 00:37:23.179
think I've ever like hollered I Don't think it

00:37:23.179 --> 00:37:27.360
would been that type To what to like be on you

00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:32.289
know kids like it when I'm ministering I kind

00:37:32.289 --> 00:37:35.630
of just have this sound sometimes but not more

00:37:35.630 --> 00:37:38.329
so kind of out of excitement. Yeah, but not yelling

00:37:38.329 --> 00:37:43.989
but If you if you really think about that and

00:37:43.989 --> 00:37:47.710
think about Jesus I don't think he yelled and

00:37:47.710 --> 00:37:52.869
screamed to assert leadership and authority I

00:37:52.869 --> 00:37:59.590
think You have to learn To talk to your kids

00:37:59.590 --> 00:38:04.570
as Little human beings and goes back to what

00:38:04.570 --> 00:38:09.429
you said would I want to be your dad? like No,

00:38:09.730 --> 00:38:13.349
yeah, I mean if I mean if you just apply the

00:38:13.349 --> 00:38:16.590
golden rule to parenting and within with even

00:38:16.590 --> 00:38:21.929
with Trinity if you raise your voice Yeah Takes

00:38:21.929 --> 00:38:24.230
off running. Yeah, that's not what she wants.

00:38:24.230 --> 00:38:27.150
It's not what she needs nothing. That's a there's

00:38:27.150 --> 00:38:32.199
a lesson in that Mean okay, even with me and

00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:36.199
you we don't really yell at each other We have

00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:40.239
had moments, but we've had some heated discussions

00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:46.119
And I would even say we've had those lately if

00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:51.000
I really had to think about it I'm trying to

00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:55.079
think You're giving me some look so maybe we

00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:03.679
have Yes, but we anyhow Nevermind. Before today,

00:39:03.860 --> 00:39:06.960
it's, I think it's been a while. Yeah. Um, but

00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:10.320
we don't, we don't yell. We talk to each other.

00:39:10.780 --> 00:39:15.579
We talk through it. Like if, if we see a issue

00:39:15.579 --> 00:39:18.199
or something, we wait until it's just us and

00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.659
then we talk it out. And I'm like, um, maybe

00:39:20.659 --> 00:39:22.719
you shouldn't, you know, like you should have

00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.460
done this or shouldn't have done it this way.

00:39:25.539 --> 00:39:28.690
And you do the same to me. when I get frustrated

00:39:28.690 --> 00:39:30.710
or something, you're like, uh, that was a bit,

00:39:31.070 --> 00:39:34.409
a bit much. Yeah. But, um. But it should be the

00:39:34.409 --> 00:39:36.889
same with the kids. Like if we can talk to each

00:39:36.889 --> 00:39:41.050
other that way as partners. You get a whole lot

00:39:41.050 --> 00:39:43.289
more out of them. You get a whole much. If you

00:39:43.289 --> 00:39:46.449
just, if you yelled at me, like I'm probably

00:39:46.449 --> 00:39:49.369
not going to have a whole lot of respect and

00:39:49.369 --> 00:39:52.829
want to listen to what you have to say. Um, but

00:39:52.829 --> 00:39:56.599
if you treat me like a human being, And I think

00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:58.760
the kids and with respect I think the kids feel

00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:03.380
the same way To me I guess it just goes back

00:40:03.380 --> 00:40:07.599
to what you say and how you say it your delivery

00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.880
Because you can say something nice but deliver

00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:14.920
it wrong and they won't receive it. Mm -hmm Yeah

00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:17.940
It's like I've heard people also say, you know,

00:40:17.940 --> 00:40:21.340
I'm not explaining myself to a child the baby

00:40:21.340 --> 00:40:24.480
you need to But you definitely need to. And our

00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.699
kids are a perfect example of I think they understand

00:40:27.699 --> 00:40:30.320
more than we give them credit for. Oh yes they

00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:36.719
do. They're way too smart for my own good. I

00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:40.599
mean you definitely need to explain to them things

00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:43.719
because how do you expect them to handle things

00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.380
later on in life if they were never taught? Yeah.

00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:51.159
And you have to they have to be able to understand

00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:58.000
Okay, mommy said this why? Because of this Mommy's

00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:02.260
doing this why well, they need to know Like I

00:41:02.260 --> 00:41:05.019
don't mind explaining myself to anybody. Yeah,

00:41:05.380 --> 00:41:10.380
but you know, I There's all different kinds of

00:41:10.380 --> 00:41:13.380
parenting styles and I'm not saying that You

00:41:13.380 --> 00:41:16.559
know either way is wrong. It's however you you

00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:19.579
know, you can reach your kids but Well, I think

00:41:19.579 --> 00:41:22.199
it's important to remember every child's different

00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:26.480
and I my belief is trust Holy Spirit and ask

00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:30.179
Holy Spirit to help you Right parent your child.

00:41:30.500 --> 00:41:33.619
Yeah, I mean they belong to him first exactly

00:41:33.619 --> 00:41:39.139
You know and and that may mean and I think me

00:41:39.139 --> 00:41:41.960
and Ray has talked about this before That may

00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.800
sometimes mean I need to walk away from a situation

00:41:46.809 --> 00:41:49.170
I probably had some of those moments today and

00:41:49.170 --> 00:41:51.650
opportunities that I should have walked away,

00:41:52.250 --> 00:41:55.010
breathe and then, you know, talk to you first

00:41:55.010 --> 00:41:58.349
and then come back to the situation. Um, and

00:41:58.349 --> 00:42:04.510
I did not do that. I failed at that today, but

00:42:04.510 --> 00:42:14.269
yeah, but it's, it's okay to walk away in. Take

00:42:14.269 --> 00:42:18.889
a breath take a breath before you respond to

00:42:18.889 --> 00:42:23.550
Whatever you name and it's okay to tap out to

00:42:23.550 --> 00:42:25.550
your spouse every once in a while You know, like

00:42:25.550 --> 00:42:28.170
if you're struggling having a bad day be like

00:42:28.170 --> 00:42:31.369
look, I'm gonna need you to step up today because

00:42:31.369 --> 00:42:40.769
I'm not it. I'm not it today I Think that's good

00:42:40.769 --> 00:42:47.369
right there but Don't know how I mean, of course,

00:42:47.369 --> 00:42:49.170
we're supposed to be talking about our words

00:42:49.170 --> 00:42:51.670
and how they matter I think we took a turn on

00:42:51.670 --> 00:42:57.090
parenting but in but but but It is parenting

00:42:57.090 --> 00:43:00.070
and it can relate to parenting has a lot to do

00:43:00.070 --> 00:43:03.150
with Words. Yeah, I mean it to me. I guess it

00:43:03.150 --> 00:43:06.090
goes to teaching beginning teaching has a lot

00:43:06.090 --> 00:43:11.289
to do with words and tones and how you How you

00:43:11.289 --> 00:43:13.349
build because what do you what are we doing in

00:43:13.349 --> 00:43:17.480
the family? as the parents, as the dad, what

00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:20.719
are you, you're building a culture for your family.

00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.280
Well, that culture is going to be framed by what?

00:43:24.820 --> 00:43:29.179
Your words, your attitude, your tone. I mean,

00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:33.659
it's a bigger deal than we realize. It goes back

00:43:33.659 --> 00:43:36.139
to what Proverbs 18 talks about. The power of

00:43:36.139 --> 00:43:39.780
life and death is in the tongue. You're eating

00:43:39.780 --> 00:43:42.579
you're either giving life to your children. You're

00:43:42.579 --> 00:43:45.320
giving life to your spouse or giving life to

00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:50.980
Your home or you're killing it You know and there's

00:43:50.980 --> 00:43:53.860
like today for me. I feel like I killed a lot

00:43:53.860 --> 00:43:57.500
of things But then at the end of the night I

00:43:57.500 --> 00:44:02.300
had to suck it up be a man look at my kids and

00:44:02.300 --> 00:44:07.480
say you know what I'm sorry May both of you feel

00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:13.840
this way That's not okay. And just, we move forward

00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.519
from there. And I think that's important as a

00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:19.559
family too, is having that grace to be able to

00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:25.579
say, hey, look, you had a day. I apologize. It's

00:44:25.579 --> 00:44:28.340
okay. You know, even with the kids, when they

00:44:28.340 --> 00:44:31.860
have that day, they have their bad day, is being

00:44:31.860 --> 00:44:34.800
able to look at them like Kailin said, even before

00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.699
they, if they don't ever say a thing about it.

00:44:38.190 --> 00:44:42.329
And just helping them understand, we forgive

00:44:42.329 --> 00:44:48.550
you a long time ago. I think, and this goes deep,

00:44:48.949 --> 00:44:51.789
I feel as I say this out loud and think about

00:44:51.789 --> 00:44:56.610
it, my kids don't have to ask me to forgive them.

00:44:58.010 --> 00:45:01.730
I live in a state of forgiveness toward my children.

00:45:02.369 --> 00:45:06.159
And where does that come from? Because I was

00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.659
always taught you got to ask God to forgive you

00:45:08.659 --> 00:45:11.820
every day I mean, that's that's good to do I

00:45:11.820 --> 00:45:15.539
guess but Also living from this point. I don't

00:45:15.539 --> 00:45:18.000
know that I want my kid asking me every day to

00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:21.500
forgive them. I Forgive you because you're my

00:45:21.500 --> 00:45:24.960
child All right, how we got on this subject,

00:45:24.980 --> 00:45:28.019
but here we are Well, I think after a while to

00:45:28.019 --> 00:45:30.960
what they originally asked forgiveness for eventually.

00:45:31.500 --> 00:45:35.219
It doesn't become a thing that needs forgiveness

00:45:35.219 --> 00:45:37.639
anymore because it drops off. Yeah. Cause they

00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.139
realize, Hey, I have to apologize for this. Maybe

00:45:42.139 --> 00:45:45.139
I'll not do it anymore. You know, and then, you

00:45:45.139 --> 00:45:48.760
know, you move on, you grow from that. Yeah.

00:45:50.059 --> 00:45:56.199
And I think a lot of the goal and a lot of this

00:45:56.199 --> 00:46:00.219
stuff to me, I guess, is you're trying to establish

00:46:00.219 --> 00:46:03.699
this family as a kingdom family. Like I know

00:46:03.699 --> 00:46:06.420
I created the logo that says that, but now we're

00:46:06.420 --> 00:46:09.639
creating a culture where I want this to be a

00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:15.940
kingdom focused family to where at 8 and at one

00:46:15.940 --> 00:46:20.360
year old, he matters just as much as Kaylin at

00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.960
10 years old. And Kaylin at 10 years old matters

00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:28.639
just as much as 8 and at one year old. And I

00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:32.659
want them both to believe that. At times, even

00:46:32.659 --> 00:46:36.340
having a baby, your older one, especially the

00:46:36.340 --> 00:46:39.780
middle one too, can feel left out during times.

00:46:41.139 --> 00:46:46.420
But creating though that culture and helping

00:46:46.420 --> 00:46:49.699
them understand, hey, we see you, we hear you,

00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:55.219
we know you. And include them. Yeah. Even on

00:46:55.219 --> 00:47:01.079
the simple things. And just understanding, you

00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:04.079
know, every word you speak as a parent plants

00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:09.000
a seed. You're speaking constantly. If you're

00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:11.900
being intentional about it, you're speaking,

00:47:11.900 --> 00:47:20.760
um, to who your child is becoming. I like this

00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:24.980
one. I have this for down. Yeah. And I wrote

00:47:24.980 --> 00:47:27.440
this down. Why your child, why your home should

00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.179
sound like your child's future. and not their

00:47:30.179 --> 00:47:37.460
past. Like when they make mistakes, don't allow

00:47:37.460 --> 00:47:40.260
them to dwell on that mistake. Don't allow them

00:47:40.260 --> 00:47:43.619
to define themselves by that mistake. Help them

00:47:43.619 --> 00:47:46.760
to pick up the pieces and just move forward.

00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:51.099
And you know, and I have to, I have to think

00:47:51.099 --> 00:47:56.440
about Kalin for a lot of this because Kalin What

00:47:56.440 --> 00:48:01.300
I've seen over Kailin the past few weeks is just

00:48:01.300 --> 00:48:07.320
mind blowing. As far as her wisdom that she speaks.

00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:15.579
Her understanding of situations. And her kindness.

00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:25.210
And her kindness. Her. Like she does. She expresses

00:48:25.210 --> 00:48:28.730
her emotions. She's expressing them more so lately

00:48:28.730 --> 00:48:34.829
that I've seen. But there's so much grace in

00:48:34.829 --> 00:48:41.349
everything that she does. And I even, I mean,

00:48:41.409 --> 00:48:46.989
is what it is, you know, even when we left the

00:48:46.989 --> 00:48:51.329
church the past couple of weeks. And we talked

00:48:51.329 --> 00:48:54.679
to the kids about what happened. understanding

00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:57.940
of what was happening, happening in her wisdom

00:48:57.940 --> 00:49:00.780
to speak life back into us without knowing what

00:49:00.780 --> 00:49:03.780
she was doing. I don't know that at 10 years

00:49:03.780 --> 00:49:06.340
old, I would be talking like she talks sometimes.

00:49:07.380 --> 00:49:13.599
I don't think I was. I mean, it's just, she,

00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:16.800
I don't know. Sometimes I'm wondering, sometimes

00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:19.039
I ask myself like, which one of us is the parent?

00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:24.070
Cause I mean, just like tonight. Daddy already

00:49:24.070 --> 00:49:27.670
forgives you before you said anything We all

00:49:27.670 --> 00:49:30.230
have bad days like for her to understand that

00:49:30.230 --> 00:49:33.130
and grapple that at 10 years old And be able

00:49:33.130 --> 00:49:36.889
to turn it and extend grace back to me as her

00:49:36.889 --> 00:49:41.269
dad. You see that's also You know when you teach

00:49:41.269 --> 00:49:44.949
them It's okay to have bad days. This is what

00:49:44.949 --> 00:49:50.289
it is He you know Daddy's just having a bad day

00:49:50.289 --> 00:49:57.519
today Okay And that's okay. We just keep trucking.

00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.739
But when you stop and you explain all of these

00:50:00.739 --> 00:50:06.699
scenarios as life comes in to your home, they

00:50:06.699 --> 00:50:09.320
understand and they react a whole lot better

00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:13.960
to it. And I think that's what we see out of

00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:18.980
Kalen. Because I try to take the time and trust

00:50:18.980 --> 00:50:24.460
me, she has so many questions. But I try to take

00:50:24.460 --> 00:50:28.659
my time and explain, you know, and I know there's

00:50:28.659 --> 00:50:32.340
some days that, you know, I'm at my last question

00:50:32.340 --> 00:50:35.920
for the day, and I probably don't explain things

00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:40.719
as good, but I try my best every day to respond

00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.139
and answer her questions so that she understands,

00:50:44.139 --> 00:50:50.110
you know, what and why and, you know, the reason

00:50:50.110 --> 00:50:56.769
behind it and what we do with it. You know, I

00:50:56.769 --> 00:51:04.030
think we'll start wrapping up, but I think the

00:51:04.030 --> 00:51:06.230
last part, you know, I know I mentioned a while

00:51:06.230 --> 00:51:08.190
ago about the whole forgiveness thing. I don't

00:51:08.190 --> 00:51:10.309
want my kids running around constantly. Forgive

00:51:10.309 --> 00:51:12.789
me, forgive me, forgive me. Not what I'm looking

00:51:12.789 --> 00:51:17.809
for, but I want to also help them understand

00:51:17.809 --> 00:51:27.300
that they're Repentance there is a There's time

00:51:27.300 --> 00:51:30.440
like tonight where I had to sit down and apologize

00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.760
but that that's also needed in relationships

00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:40.380
and in family to where And one of the things

00:51:40.380 --> 00:51:43.699
I read today for this was about just modeling

00:51:43.699 --> 00:51:48.349
humility, you know, it's a It should be normal

00:51:48.349 --> 00:51:53.130
to be able to come up and say, I was wrong. Because

00:51:53.130 --> 00:51:54.690
what are you trying to do in that moment? You're

00:51:54.690 --> 00:52:00.150
trying to reconcile what was there. Um, because

00:52:00.150 --> 00:52:02.389
if I just, okay, let's just be honest. If I just

00:52:02.389 --> 00:52:04.809
never did that and continued on the path that

00:52:04.809 --> 00:52:08.469
I was on before, what would our family look like?

00:52:10.010 --> 00:52:13.980
She just rolled her eyes for everybody who. You

00:52:13.980 --> 00:52:16.719
can't see what I see. That look right there is

00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:21.420
head at all. But how the biblical repentance

00:52:21.420 --> 00:52:25.679
and I don't like that word, but it reestablishes

00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:30.519
connection. You know, I was not connected to

00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:33.679
my kids at all. I felt like today until that

00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:36.639
moment when I sat down with them. Well, I can't

00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.619
say that because I, me and Kevin had a conversation

00:52:39.619 --> 00:52:44.619
earlier where I corrected that. Um, but to sit

00:52:44.619 --> 00:52:48.800
down before you cut my hair and everything and

00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:50.840
have that conversation. I made them come sit

00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.659
in the living room and us sit down so I could

00:52:53.659 --> 00:52:57.260
explain to them. I didn't really explain, just

00:52:57.260 --> 00:53:05.360
apologize for how I made them feel today. And

00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:09.579
to show them and display this is how you reconcile.

00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:14.610
This is how you reestablish connection. Don't

00:53:14.610 --> 00:53:19.409
ever feel like I don't love you. Right. I messed

00:53:19.409 --> 00:53:25.710
up today. Had a rough day mentally. You got to

00:53:25.710 --> 00:53:29.010
bring into that. That's not okay. I'm not excusing

00:53:29.010 --> 00:53:35.489
what I did, but this is where we're at. And then

00:53:35.489 --> 00:53:39.639
you build it from there. It's not the same, I

00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:41.179
guess is what I'm trying to say. It's not the

00:53:41.179 --> 00:53:43.320
same as constantly running around going, forgive

00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:46.219
me, forgive me, forgive me, forgive me. But there

00:53:46.219 --> 00:53:49.179
are moments to where when you know you missed

00:53:49.179 --> 00:53:55.800
it, hey, I got this wrong. And I feel like me

00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:58.539
and you do that sometimes a lot more now than

00:53:58.539 --> 00:54:02.159
we used to. And sometimes, you know, in the moment,

00:54:04.690 --> 00:54:08.030
You apologize and it's more healing for you than

00:54:08.030 --> 00:54:11.369
it was for the ones that deserved it Yeah, because

00:54:11.369 --> 00:54:15.809
a lot of times At least for me a lot of times

00:54:15.809 --> 00:54:18.630
when you when someone apologizes to me, I'm like,

00:54:18.670 --> 00:54:21.170
I'm already over that anyhow, I didn't really

00:54:21.170 --> 00:54:24.969
But you're right it does it does more for you

00:54:24.969 --> 00:54:29.489
sometimes it's like your connection You know,

00:54:29.570 --> 00:54:32.489
it heals that connection where you feel disconnected

00:54:34.900 --> 00:54:39.179
Yeah, and Then what I want the our kids understand

00:54:39.179 --> 00:54:41.599
and why I don't like to hear I'm say I'm sorry

00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:46.860
Is go sorry doesn't really cut it It's what you

00:54:46.860 --> 00:54:51.699
do you've apologized Now what? That means we

00:54:51.699 --> 00:54:55.199
don't continue in the behavior that caused the

00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:59.960
pain That caused the hurt Does that mean you're

00:54:59.960 --> 00:55:04.090
gonna be perfect? No Does that mean if that's

00:55:04.090 --> 00:55:08.610
where your struggle is, you might fail again?

00:55:09.269 --> 00:55:14.489
No. But learning how to deal with that in the

00:55:14.489 --> 00:55:21.309
moment and teaching them, hey, okay, let's use

00:55:21.309 --> 00:55:26.369
the kids as an example. You know, I didn't keep

00:55:26.369 --> 00:55:30.750
my room clean. Well, yeah, it's okay. We forgive

00:55:30.750 --> 00:55:35.789
you. Maybe they keep it clean for three days.

00:55:36.829 --> 00:55:39.730
I'm giving them a lot of grace there. They kept

00:55:39.730 --> 00:55:41.989
it clean for three days and then mess up again.

00:55:43.630 --> 00:55:48.610
Okay, let's just keep, let's just move on. Next

00:55:48.610 --> 00:55:51.389
time they make it four days. Exactly. Right.

00:55:52.469 --> 00:55:54.949
That's the kind of grace we have to have, especially

00:55:54.949 --> 00:55:58.550
with our kids, is understanding they're little

00:55:58.550 --> 00:56:01.710
human beings. who's trying to figure out this

00:56:01.710 --> 00:56:06.889
thing called life in a chaotic world that it's

00:56:06.889 --> 00:56:10.530
more chaotic now than it was when we were younger.

00:56:14.949 --> 00:56:19.829
That just kind of is what it is. But to see,

00:56:21.150 --> 00:56:24.650
I guess as a parent, the bragging that we have,

00:56:24.789 --> 00:56:26.610
bragging right, that I must say we have, quote

00:56:26.610 --> 00:56:30.050
unquote. Is to see their response and some of

00:56:30.050 --> 00:56:34.289
these things I Mean even trying to even if you

00:56:34.289 --> 00:56:35.989
pay attention to Trinity, there's things that

00:56:35.989 --> 00:56:44.730
she does and says sometimes it's like Wow She

00:56:44.730 --> 00:56:49.190
she's one of those that shows you they understand

00:56:49.190 --> 00:56:53.989
a lot more Than what you give credit for and

00:56:53.989 --> 00:56:58.190
if you separate Kalen and Trinity. Trinity becomes

00:56:58.190 --> 00:57:05.010
much more older, I guess you could say, in moments.

00:57:06.510 --> 00:57:10.050
Mature. Mature, that's a good word. Yeah, much

00:57:10.050 --> 00:57:17.429
more mature. I'm trying to think if there's anything

00:57:17.429 --> 00:57:26.409
else I want to hit on. Okay, let's let's do this

00:57:26.409 --> 00:57:30.469
one because I think even marriage our marriage

00:57:30.469 --> 00:57:37.449
in front of them Helps speak life to them. I

00:57:37.449 --> 00:57:39.269
Think yes showing affection each other in front

00:57:39.269 --> 00:57:42.130
of them mean stuff to them that kind of thing

00:57:42.130 --> 00:57:48.210
How has our language changed our marriage over

00:57:48.210 --> 00:57:56.320
the years I Mean you speak English now Excuse

00:57:56.320 --> 00:58:00.539
me Used to mumble a lot you still do sometimes

00:58:00.539 --> 00:58:08.039
I'm just kidding. I Have no words for it now,

00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:13.039
I Feel like you communicate a little better whereas

00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:18.199
before you just didn't You kept it was a struggle

00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:21.900
for me you kept everything inside and it was

00:58:21.900 --> 00:58:26.590
like pulling nails out of Actually, what is rebar?

00:58:26.809 --> 00:58:29.090
It was like pulling rebar out of the ground,

00:58:29.969 --> 00:58:32.610
trying to get something out of you. I've had

00:58:32.610 --> 00:58:35.070
to do that a couple of times. That gets fun.

00:58:35.869 --> 00:58:37.429
Sometimes it's just easier to cut the rebar and

00:58:37.429 --> 00:58:42.750
move on. But that's how it felt like trying to

00:58:42.750 --> 00:58:50.469
get emotion or feelings and things out of you

00:58:50.469 --> 00:58:58.389
before. Now you actually come to me and you know,

00:58:58.710 --> 00:59:02.630
you'll Tell me things that bother you or if I

00:59:02.630 --> 00:59:07.809
do something That upsets you or that you don't

00:59:07.809 --> 00:59:11.050
like or that I said something and I didn't realize

00:59:11.050 --> 00:59:15.289
That what I said bothered you because it may

00:59:15.289 --> 00:59:19.309
not be what I meant, you know You will tell me

00:59:19.309 --> 00:59:24.510
whereas before You didn't really say A whole

00:59:24.510 --> 00:59:31.309
lot that I recall. Okay. Well, what about me?

00:59:33.469 --> 00:59:35.849
The question was how has her language changed

00:59:35.849 --> 00:59:37.789
our marriage over the years? I know. I would

00:59:37.789 --> 00:59:40.650
agree with what you just said. Well, that was

00:59:40.650 --> 00:59:44.969
mostly about you. Yeah, but you've always communicated

00:59:44.969 --> 00:59:49.369
to me typically. Oh, so mine's the same? We communicate

00:59:49.369 --> 01:00:00.380
better. Okay. Not to sexist anything, but you

01:00:00.380 --> 01:00:03.239
are, you're a female. You communicate better

01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:08.820
anyhow. Well, I mean, okay. I didn't never have

01:00:08.820 --> 01:00:10.900
to worry about where I stood with you. You would

01:00:10.900 --> 01:00:15.059
always make sure you told me. I on the other

01:00:15.059 --> 01:00:18.119
hand. And if not my facial expressions. Exactly.

01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:20.179
If you don't speak, your face still shows it.

01:00:20.300 --> 01:00:26.619
I have said that. You do. Yeah, anyhow. And that

01:00:26.619 --> 01:00:29.139
closed caption. Yes, it is. I didn't finish it,

01:00:29.139 --> 01:00:35.480
but thanks. But I guess to end, I would, I'm

01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:37.480
going to use a personal story for you that you

01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:43.019
told me. Oh, no. Just to prove that I don't know

01:00:43.019 --> 01:00:48.320
that this ever, I don't know that the power of

01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:55.840
words ever Does not mean anything So like the

01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:58.780
day that you went to your dad's and you come

01:00:58.780 --> 01:01:04.659
home and Told me that your dad said that he's

01:01:04.659 --> 01:01:09.179
proud of you And you you told me and I never

01:01:09.179 --> 01:01:11.320
forget the words that you said to me you said

01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:15.219
don't ever Ever doubt the words that you speak

01:01:15.219 --> 01:01:19.780
over your daughters Don't have value because

01:01:19.780 --> 01:01:24.070
at 35 years I think you were 34 then. Don't underestimate

01:01:24.070 --> 01:01:27.030
it. Yeah and at 34 years old hearing your dad

01:01:27.030 --> 01:01:33.889
say I'm proud of you still spoke volume to you.

01:01:34.070 --> 01:01:38.409
Something about when a dad speaks that it does

01:01:38.409 --> 01:01:42.070
something to you. Yeah. I think something that

01:01:42.070 --> 01:01:45.610
maybe not just as a dad but as a parent when

01:01:45.610 --> 01:01:49.889
they speak that kind of word over you it does

01:01:49.889 --> 01:01:52.659
something. Especially when you know, it's coming

01:01:52.659 --> 01:01:57.739
from a sincere place. Yeah Don't get it, you

01:01:57.739 --> 01:02:01.199
know To where you don't want them going out looking

01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:04.239
for it other places to make them think that exactly

01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:07.460
other people they need to seek Approval and stuff

01:02:07.460 --> 01:02:10.360
from other people but there's something about

01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:16.539
when your parent You know or your dad says I'm

01:02:16.539 --> 01:02:19.730
proud of you when you think about me thinking

01:02:19.730 --> 01:02:23.590
about two little girls. I want them to know that

01:02:23.590 --> 01:02:27.610
their dad affirms them already so that the older

01:02:27.610 --> 01:02:30.909
they get, some boy come along and try to affirm

01:02:30.909 --> 01:02:33.889
them. That does not grab their attention because

01:02:33.889 --> 01:02:39.369
they already know. My dad tells me I'm beautiful.

01:02:40.210 --> 01:02:42.610
My dad tells me I'm a princess. My dad tells

01:02:42.610 --> 01:02:45.630
me that I'm smart. My dad tells me that I'm valuable.

01:02:46.349 --> 01:02:48.630
So there's nothing you can tell me that's going

01:02:48.630 --> 01:02:53.829
to get my attention. Right. Just my thoughts

01:02:53.829 --> 01:02:58.809
there. But I think it's just a good note to end

01:02:58.809 --> 01:03:02.929
on because talking about the power of words,

01:03:03.869 --> 01:03:06.550
that never goes away from the importance of that

01:03:06.550 --> 01:03:10.809
as a parent, being able to speak life back to

01:03:10.809 --> 01:03:13.909
your kids. No matter how old they are. No matter

01:03:13.909 --> 01:03:18.389
how old they are. Yeah. because regardless you're

01:03:18.389 --> 01:03:21.550
always that parent you're always that mom or

01:03:21.550 --> 01:03:30.150
that dad and you in some ways I guess you as

01:03:30.150 --> 01:03:32.550
the parent sets the tone for the relationship

01:03:32.550 --> 01:03:40.110
what do you want that culture to look like what

01:03:40.110 --> 01:03:43.480
do you want the future because you know We got

01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:45.679
plenty of time for it, but there's back in my

01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:47.840
mind. I'm thinking at some point there are grandkids

01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:50.639
in the future What does that future look like?

01:03:51.300 --> 01:03:54.900
What culture do I create now? To help affirm

01:03:54.900 --> 01:03:59.340
not just my kids, but my grandkids It's just

01:03:59.340 --> 01:04:02.760
a big deal when you think about it And my we

01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:05.659
have to be more intentional. Well, I have to

01:04:05.659 --> 01:04:09.139
be more intentional With things that I say and

01:04:09.139 --> 01:04:15.099
things that I do We could go on hold for another

01:04:15.099 --> 01:04:18.400
hour probably talking about some of this but

01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:26.539
I'll let that just kind of sit there and I Think

01:04:26.539 --> 01:04:30.340
that's just a good note to end on it never gets

01:04:30.340 --> 01:04:34.900
Don't ever feel like you're I guess for the listener

01:04:34.900 --> 01:04:37.000
whoever's listening to this don't ever feel like

01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:42.119
your kids are too old for you to Speak life into

01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:47.039
them You're still their parent and there's power

01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:52.039
in your tongue to speak life or death blessing

01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:59.559
or cursing You get to choose You know sometimes

01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:08.500
it just takes That apology to reconcile the relationship

01:05:08.500 --> 01:05:12.760
I Can't just be an apology is gonna be action

01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:15.429
behind it, too If I just set up here tonight

01:05:15.429 --> 01:05:20.110
and sit on, you know I'm sorry for what I've

01:05:20.110 --> 01:05:23.849
said or whatever but then never back to being

01:05:23.849 --> 01:05:28.030
And just continue doing doing this every day

01:05:28.030 --> 01:05:30.150
and I just apologized every day eventually the

01:05:30.150 --> 01:05:34.230
apology becomes Obsolete. Yeah They don't even

01:05:34.230 --> 01:05:35.869
bother because you're just gonna keep doing the

01:05:35.869 --> 01:05:39.130
same thing Versus I had today today. Maybe I

01:05:39.130 --> 01:05:43.099
go two weeks and don't have a day like this And

01:05:43.099 --> 01:05:44.900
then have to apologize again. Well, then I go

01:05:44.900 --> 01:05:49.340
a month And don't have a day like this Makes

01:05:49.340 --> 01:05:52.280
them more of a difference Do you want to pray?

01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:57.340
No, you won't let me do it. Okay Father I just

01:05:57.340 --> 01:05:59.420
thank you. I thank you for anyone who's listening

01:05:59.420 --> 01:06:02.199
to this if they've made it this far I just I

01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:06.199
speak to their hearts and their minds. I Guess

01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:08.880
Holy Spirit my first prayer for the listener

01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:10.800
would be that they would hear what you would

01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:15.489
say over them That you that they would hear that

01:06:15.489 --> 01:06:19.590
you are proud of them That they would hear that

01:06:19.590 --> 01:06:25.110
you love them more than anything That they would

01:06:25.110 --> 01:06:28.869
hear and Holy Spirit just reveal to them how

01:06:28.869 --> 01:06:33.489
valuable that they are to you as an individual

01:06:33.489 --> 01:06:39.809
as a son or daughter of you But they would feel

01:06:39.809 --> 01:06:43.000
their importance they would hear their importance

01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:45.679
out of your voice that they would feel your embrace

01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:50.179
and then they would be able to demonstrate that

01:06:50.179 --> 01:06:54.320
back to their children back to their homes that

01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:56.699
they've created back into their families their

01:06:56.699 --> 01:07:00.500
spouse and we just thank you and praise you in

01:07:00.500 --> 01:07:06.079
Jesus name we pray amen thank you again for doing

01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:11.659
this with me i love you You're welcome, I love

01:07:11.659 --> 01:07:12.420
you too. Okay.
