WEBVTT 00:00:10.699 --> 00:00:13.279 Hey everyone, welcome back to Student Stories. 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:16.420 I'm Jen, and we're thrilled to have with us today, 00:00:16.739 --> 00:00:20.460 a student artist and musician, Kaden Asher. Welcome 00:00:20.460 --> 00:00:23.100 Kaden. Thank you so much for having me. Absolutely. 00:00:23.420 --> 00:00:27.260 Please introduce yourself to our listeners. So 00:00:27.260 --> 00:00:31.000 I'm Kaden Asher. I'm 22 years old. I'm an artist, 00:00:31.019 --> 00:00:33.340 and I'm also a student here at Johnson County 00:00:33.340 --> 00:00:36.460 Community College. And I've got one semester 00:00:36.460 --> 00:00:41.270 left with the... Awesome college been a great 00:00:41.270 --> 00:00:44.090 experience to learn and meet so many cool people 00:00:44.090 --> 00:00:46.030 Awesome. Awesome. Thank you for being here with 00:00:46.030 --> 00:00:49.310 us today We had a pretty great conversation actually 00:00:49.310 --> 00:00:52.609 more than one offline before the show today And 00:00:52.609 --> 00:00:54.770 you shared your backstory with us about how you 00:00:54.770 --> 00:00:57.929 came to study here at JCCC Can you share that 00:00:57.929 --> 00:00:59.729 with our listeners and our viewers on YouTube? 00:01:00.009 --> 00:01:03.990 Yeah, so I originally graduated high school at 00:01:03.990 --> 00:01:06.769 Blue Valley, from Blue Valley High, and after 00:01:06.769 --> 00:01:08.510 that I went to Emporia State for two and a half 00:01:08.510 --> 00:01:10.629 years where I studied business, entrepreneurship, 00:01:10.849 --> 00:01:14.390 a little bit of business admin, and then ultimately 00:01:14.390 --> 00:01:17.290 I just decided it wasn't as much for me, that's 00:01:17.290 --> 00:01:20.069 not what I was calling me. I'd been making music 00:01:20.069 --> 00:01:23.049 since I was a little kid. singing my whole life 00:01:23.049 --> 00:01:24.769 and I thought I actually needed to like follow 00:01:24.769 --> 00:01:27.269 my passion and what about what a better place 00:01:27.269 --> 00:01:30.689 to do it as somewhere affordable and you know 00:01:30.689 --> 00:01:33.569 somewhere close to home where I can really like 00:01:33.569 --> 00:01:36.010 refine my skills and you know become a better 00:01:36.010 --> 00:01:39.829 artist so yeah after Emporia State I came to 00:01:39.829 --> 00:01:43.409 Johnson County Community College and I've been 00:01:43.409 --> 00:01:47.340 here for the last year and a half And your major 00:01:47.340 --> 00:01:51.319 is? Yeah, I'm getting my Associates in Liberal 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:55.530 Arts and also an Associates of Science. But then 00:01:55.530 --> 00:01:57.450 I'm also getting the recording art certification. 00:01:57.730 --> 00:01:59.450 Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Well, thank you for 00:01:59.450 --> 00:02:01.310 being here We're really really excited to hear 00:02:01.310 --> 00:02:04.230 some big news that you've got to share with us. 00:02:04.230 --> 00:02:06.969 Please share with our friends I am in the middle 00:02:06.969 --> 00:02:09.629 of a rebrand right now You're already getting 00:02:09.629 --> 00:02:11.789 the second half of that. So it's Kaden. It's 00:02:11.789 --> 00:02:15.229 Kaden Asher on all platforms Kaden X Asher on 00:02:15.229 --> 00:02:19.129 Instagram Snapchat YouTube and you can find me 00:02:19.129 --> 00:02:23.699 with that handle anywhere. I got a lot of I'm 00:02:23.699 --> 00:02:27.259 really happy about this rebrand. Got a lot of 00:02:27.259 --> 00:02:29.539 good music coming, a lot of new stuff I've been 00:02:29.539 --> 00:02:33.819 working on really hard. And I'd say the influences 00:02:33.819 --> 00:02:36.699 are more like dark pop -ish and a little bit 00:02:36.699 --> 00:02:39.860 of hip -hop influences. But yeah, it's been a 00:02:39.860 --> 00:02:43.419 really exciting process. And that's C -A -D -E 00:02:43.419 --> 00:02:45.840 -N, Kaden A -S -H -E -R, correct? That's correct, 00:02:46.139 --> 00:02:47.840 yeah. Okay, perfect, perfect. And once again, 00:02:48.099 --> 00:02:50.159 Kaden X Asher on TikTok? Yeah, on all platforms. 00:02:50.340 --> 00:02:52.159 On all platforms. Okay, so that would be TikTok, 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:53.960 Instagram. Everything, yeah. Perfect, perfect. 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:57.000 Okay, so tell us a little bit about the rebranding. 00:02:57.400 --> 00:02:59.879 Tell us kind of how you initially packaged yourself, 00:02:59.960 --> 00:03:02.039 what that looked like, what your new packaging 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:03.759 will look like, and why you made that shift. 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.620 Yeah, so I guess there's a lot that goes into 00:03:05.620 --> 00:03:08.449 that. Question that's a loaded question. I'd 00:03:08.449 --> 00:03:11.370 say First you kind of have to have you have to 00:03:11.370 --> 00:03:13.569 ask yourself like who is the who is the person 00:03:13.569 --> 00:03:15.389 you're trying to be? What are you trying to what 00:03:15.389 --> 00:03:17.310 are you trying to represent? Who are you as a 00:03:17.310 --> 00:03:19.849 brand and that can mean a lot of things like 00:03:19.849 --> 00:03:21.569 your demographic the people that you're trying 00:03:21.569 --> 00:03:24.430 to reach and The music that you're trying to 00:03:24.430 --> 00:03:27.509 make who you're trying to speak to You know, 00:03:27.509 --> 00:03:29.009 there's a lot that there's just a lot of questions 00:03:29.009 --> 00:03:31.590 that go into it and I don't think you can really 00:03:31.590 --> 00:03:34.849 answer that question like all that quickly I 00:03:34.849 --> 00:03:36.530 think it's gonna take me a while to figure out 00:03:36.530 --> 00:03:38.050 like some of the key elements that are gonna 00:03:38.050 --> 00:03:44.229 go into my my brand but yeah right now I would 00:03:44.229 --> 00:03:46.229 say like some things like I can incorporate in 00:03:46.229 --> 00:03:49.590 my brand or like eye catching stuff or doing 00:03:49.590 --> 00:03:52.310 things in a unique way like just doing anything 00:03:52.310 --> 00:03:55.849 like out of the ordinary or using certain colors 00:03:55.849 --> 00:03:57.789 or using like color schemes like black and white 00:03:57.789 --> 00:04:01.310 to really emphasize like the moods and tones 00:04:01.310 --> 00:04:05.099 you're trying to go for Man, I can't even go 00:04:05.099 --> 00:04:07.680 into all of it right now, I don't think. And 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:08.979 I'm still trying to figure it out all on my own 00:04:08.979 --> 00:04:11.319 too. Right, right. Which, that's huge. You know, 00:04:11.379 --> 00:04:13.039 to do all of that on your own. We were actually 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.520 talking right before we went to air about the 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:17.060 difference between working with a band, which 00:04:17.060 --> 00:04:18.980 is what I have been doing, and working on your 00:04:18.980 --> 00:04:21.519 own, producing your own music. That's a lot to 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:26.490 juggle while you're also a student. Yeah. You 00:04:26.490 --> 00:04:29.110 mentioned Kayden X Asher on all platforms. If 00:04:29.110 --> 00:04:31.009 our folks, if our friends were to go listen to 00:04:31.009 --> 00:04:32.730 you right now or take a peek at your socials 00:04:32.730 --> 00:04:35.829 right now, what might they expect to hear? Right 00:04:35.829 --> 00:04:39.029 now you can't really expect a lot. I'm waiting 00:04:39.029 --> 00:04:42.029 till I think 2026, like January, to drop my first 00:04:42.029 --> 00:04:45.870 debut single. So I'm giving myself a little bit 00:04:45.870 --> 00:04:47.470 of extra time so I can get like social media 00:04:47.470 --> 00:04:51.230 stuff ready and to like to start releasing as 00:04:51.230 --> 00:04:52.709 soon as like the song drops and a little bit 00:04:52.709 --> 00:04:56.699 of pre -hype and like post -hype. But yeah, it's 00:04:56.699 --> 00:04:58.459 just like my first drop of what I got planned 00:04:58.459 --> 00:05:01.120 for that. It's called better on my own It's a 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:04.839 single it's got like some pop vibes and like 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:10.300 some like like spacey kind of feels I'm excited 00:05:10.300 --> 00:05:15.439 to share with the public and Yeah, I don't know 00:05:16.960 --> 00:05:18.980 Whoa, sorry repeat the question real quick. No, 00:05:19.100 --> 00:05:22.600 just if our listeners were to go Yeah, so right 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:24.800 now if they would hear something like old if 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:27.000 you want to rebranding to look a little different 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.220 now Yeah, so like right now honestly You it's 00:05:30.220 --> 00:05:32.540 gonna be hard to find me online the the best 00:05:32.540 --> 00:05:34.579 place to define you right now would be like live 00:05:34.579 --> 00:05:36.639 until I release That's actually my next question. 00:05:36.699 --> 00:05:38.920 Perfect. Keep please keep talking. Yeah, so I've 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:41.819 got I've got a show coming up this Saturday at 00:05:41.819 --> 00:05:44.839 the Westport Bowery At seven I'll be live at 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.399 seven so I'll get I'll do I'll be doing a couple 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:49.639 I'll be doing a couple unreleased songs there 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:51.939 and a couple of release songs from my old brand 00:05:51.939 --> 00:05:53.600 that I'm gonna be incorporating into my new brand 00:05:55.740 --> 00:05:58.699 Where in December might our friends see you? 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:01.019 Because that would be September, I'm sorry, November 00:06:01.019 --> 00:06:03.360 15th, correct? Yes. Okay, so we will go to air 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.579 after that. Okay. So I also have another show 00:06:06.579 --> 00:06:08.720 coming up on December 4th. December 4th, okay. 00:06:08.740 --> 00:06:11.800 I will not be performing, but I'm hosting a underground 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:15.800 rap battle. Fun! And I've got 16 artists that 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:17.560 I found that are all located in Kansas City. 00:06:17.579 --> 00:06:18.779 They're gonna go head -to -head. It's like an 00:06:18.779 --> 00:06:20.819 M &M kind of 8 -mile kind of event. Oh, wow. 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:22.560 Fabulous. And where will that be? Here in Kansas 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:25.000 City? Yes, it'll be at Skate Bar from 7 p .m. 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:28.079 10 p .m. December 4th. All right. $5 tickets 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:30.420 at the door. Perfect. Perfect. Okay. Wonderful. 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:32.519 Now is that information on your socials as well? 00:06:32.939 --> 00:06:34.839 Yes. Okay. Perfect. Perfect. Okay. Again, Kayden 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:40.100 X Asher Friends. So how were you packaging and 00:06:40.100 --> 00:06:44.839 distributing music before? Yeah. So the independent 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:47.699 music distributor that I use is called Distro 00:06:47.699 --> 00:06:51.189 Kid. And it is it's for me. It's been a reliable 00:06:51.189 --> 00:06:53.829 way for me to release my music over the last 00:06:53.829 --> 00:06:56.850 four years that I've been making music For a 00:06:56.850 --> 00:06:59.649 pretty good cost and like and quality too I get 00:06:59.649 --> 00:07:02.209 a lot of features that come with it and get a 00:07:02.209 --> 00:07:04.649 customized your drops and your releases to to 00:07:04.649 --> 00:07:07.529 get onto like your your famous DSP is like Spotify 00:07:07.529 --> 00:07:09.769 your distributing services like Spotify and Apple 00:07:09.769 --> 00:07:13.069 music and Pandora and All the other ones and 00:07:13.069 --> 00:07:16.029 then I'll release the SoundCloud myself, so I'll 00:07:16.029 --> 00:07:17.949 manage my own SoundCloud and YouTube. But other 00:07:17.949 --> 00:07:19.730 than that, I'll go through DistroKid and they'll 00:07:19.730 --> 00:07:22.069 release everything. You even have an option to 00:07:22.069 --> 00:07:23.449 upload your lyrics with them if you pay like 00:07:23.449 --> 00:07:25.970 in a little extra fee. There's a bunch of little 00:07:25.970 --> 00:07:29.250 fun features that you can use through their website. 00:07:29.709 --> 00:07:33.110 But that's who I use to promote my music or like 00:07:33.110 --> 00:07:35.189 to get it out there at least. And then the second 00:07:35.189 --> 00:07:38.550 hand of that would be social media. This day 00:07:38.550 --> 00:07:41.189 and age with artists social media is your biggest 00:07:41.189 --> 00:07:43.709 friend You used to need a ton of money to blow 00:07:43.709 --> 00:07:45.410 up or you used to need to have connections with 00:07:45.410 --> 00:07:47.709 a label or be a part of a label But now if you're 00:07:47.709 --> 00:07:49.610 if you're really good at social media You can 00:07:49.610 --> 00:07:52.189 you can make it in whatever and you can you can 00:07:52.189 --> 00:07:54.029 make it pretty easily. Yeah, you got a good sound 00:07:54.269 --> 00:07:56.629 I was watching, I watch TikTok all the time, 00:07:56.689 --> 00:07:59.370 which I know a lot of us do. There are always 00:07:59.370 --> 00:08:02.550 live karaoke battles or live singing battles 00:08:02.550 --> 00:08:04.610 or, you know, you versus me and then you vote, 00:08:04.689 --> 00:08:06.230 you know, click this emoji to vote for Kayden 00:08:06.230 --> 00:08:08.709 or this one to vote for Jane. And that's really 00:08:08.709 --> 00:08:10.389 fun. And then there's also a group called, I 00:08:10.389 --> 00:08:12.670 think they're called Jams in a Van and they're 00:08:12.670 --> 00:08:14.790 music interns and they're specifically asking 00:08:14.790 --> 00:08:17.259 you to submit. Your work and they'll play it 00:08:17.259 --> 00:08:19.600 on tiktok and then they'll review it. Um, and 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:22.379 I have seen like to sign you or not Yeah, I have 00:08:22.379 --> 00:08:24.740 seen some stuff like that where it's like, um 00:08:24.740 --> 00:08:26.959 Rating under or unreleased music or it's like 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.839 yeah, pretty cool. It's pretty cool. Um, so Tell 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:32.960 us the name the name again of the company that 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:35.679 you're using to distribute. Yeah I like I've 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:38.299 used distro kid since I started distro kid. Yeah, 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:40.220 but there's a bunch of other ones like cd baby 00:08:40.220 --> 00:08:45.710 and um Oh gosh, um I don't know district kids 00:08:45.710 --> 00:08:50.960 district kids worked for me though United Masters 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:53.820 is another one, but I don't know. All of my friends 00:08:53.820 --> 00:08:55.279 that are independent artists that I've talked 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:57.320 to most of the time use DistroKid. I feel like 00:08:57.320 --> 00:08:59.539 that's pretty universal right now. Okay. And 00:08:59.539 --> 00:09:01.779 so if you were to develop your own music and 00:09:01.779 --> 00:09:03.899 want to use DistroKid, would you just reach out 00:09:03.899 --> 00:09:06.059 to them and say, hey, I've got this music, I'd 00:09:06.059 --> 00:09:08.679 like to hire you to help me promote it? Yeah. 00:09:08.700 --> 00:09:11.860 So it's pretty self -explanatory once you get 00:09:11.860 --> 00:09:13.659 on their platform. So you can just go to their 00:09:13.659 --> 00:09:16.769 website, make an account and get set up. And 00:09:16.769 --> 00:09:18.950 then you'll submit your music under whatever 00:09:18.950 --> 00:09:20.769 name you want you'll submit like whatever fee 00:09:20.769 --> 00:09:22.389 They're asking and there's a couple different 00:09:22.389 --> 00:09:25.149 like packages like you can buy Depending on what 00:09:25.149 --> 00:09:27.129 level of like artists you want how much music 00:09:27.129 --> 00:09:28.610 you're gonna be releasing that kind of stuff 00:09:28.610 --> 00:09:30.649 You're managing artists what not yeah, but if 00:09:30.649 --> 00:09:32.269 you're just a managing your own like your own 00:09:32.269 --> 00:09:36.389 self I think I buy the $40 a year package And 00:09:36.389 --> 00:09:38.190 they'll like you can upload your music there. 00:09:38.210 --> 00:09:40.950 They'll verify like your artwork your song Everything 00:09:40.950 --> 00:09:42.629 else they'll even give you an option to master 00:09:42.629 --> 00:09:46.259 it if you want Wow And then yeah, so they make 00:09:46.259 --> 00:09:48.659 it really easy for artists to to release their 00:09:48.659 --> 00:09:50.100 music and drop their music and get their music 00:09:50.100 --> 00:09:52.860 out there So then do you have two copyrights 00:09:52.860 --> 00:09:55.240 on the music then the actual words and then the 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.440 song itself or how does that work? Yes, I guess 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:00.799 that really depends on how the song was made 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:02.720 and how many people went into making the song 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:04.340 if you made the song a hundred percent you then 00:10:04.340 --> 00:10:05.419 you would own a hundred percent of the rights 00:10:05.419 --> 00:10:09.200 so kind of Yeah, that would go under like I guess 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:13.320 songwriter like if like yeah In the in like the 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:15.220 metadata of the song and you know you could have 00:10:15.220 --> 00:10:17.279 a producer that might take a 20 % split You might 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:18.860 have an artist that'll take like another 20 % 00:10:18.860 --> 00:10:21.100 split an engineer that'll take a 20 % split and 00:10:21.100 --> 00:10:22.740 a writer that'll take it on here I see you know 00:10:22.740 --> 00:10:24.740 so it just depends on how many people like went 00:10:24.740 --> 00:10:26.500 and to make the song But if you're doing it all 00:10:26.500 --> 00:10:28.139 on your own, then you're gonna take a home a 00:10:28.139 --> 00:10:30.200 hundred percent and that's been you is that right? 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:33.080 Well for the most part I work with a lot of producers 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:34.360 in the area because you know you can get you 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:35.419 can get some cool sounds when you're working 00:10:35.419 --> 00:10:37.759 with other people You know just not on your own 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.320 Especially producers. I'm more of an artist. 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:42.899 I like writing writing and making melodies and 00:10:42.899 --> 00:10:45.500 singing and rapping, sometimes playing piano, 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:48.259 but for me, that's what I like to do. I like 00:10:48.259 --> 00:10:49.980 the artistry side of it instead of the producing 00:10:49.980 --> 00:10:52.320 and engineer. I'm currently in school for the 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:54.159 engineering side of it right now, and I'm self 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:56.879 -taught on the production side of things, but 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:59.620 I would say my biggest focus is definitely artistry. 00:11:00.129 --> 00:11:02.789 On the topic of that artistry have you always 00:11:02.789 --> 00:11:04.649 loved music? Did you grow up in a musical home 00:11:04.649 --> 00:11:06.690 with your family? How did you come to fall in 00:11:06.690 --> 00:11:09.029 love with music the way? Yeah, so I'd say my 00:11:09.029 --> 00:11:11.750 family is very musical my mom's a or at least 00:11:11.750 --> 00:11:14.570 artistic at least My mom's a designer and my 00:11:14.570 --> 00:11:16.789 dad a grower when he was my age. She was also 00:11:16.789 --> 00:11:20.250 in a band. He played guitar And I was in choir 00:11:20.250 --> 00:11:22.529 since fifth grade. So I don't know music's always 00:11:22.529 --> 00:11:26.070 just been a big part of my life and yeah, my 00:11:26.070 --> 00:11:29.210 parents have pushed me to Pushed me to do the 00:11:29.210 --> 00:11:30.950 best that I can in music my whole life and it's 00:11:30.950 --> 00:11:33.129 been such a blessing You spoke a little bit of 00:11:33.129 --> 00:11:34.850 this earlier, but I want to ask you again more 00:11:34.850 --> 00:11:37.309 formally. Who would you say your musical influences 00:11:37.309 --> 00:11:42.269 have been? Yeah, um Yeah, I'd say the top influences 00:11:42.269 --> 00:11:44.629 would be like just the ones that come to mind 00:11:44.629 --> 00:11:48.769 would be like Mac Miller juice world Even like 00:11:48.769 --> 00:11:51.769 a I actually have a list too. We like to ask 00:11:51.769 --> 00:11:54.309 our guests What's on their Spotify list like 00:11:54.309 --> 00:11:56.049 if we were to steal your phone? What would it 00:11:56.049 --> 00:11:59.190 look like? This is perfect actually I'll just 00:11:59.190 --> 00:12:00.629 name some of the ones that you guys are probably 00:12:00.629 --> 00:12:07.129 now court a childish Gambino Jack Harlow Nate 00:12:07.129 --> 00:12:09.509 Sibb is a is a recent influence. I'd say he's 00:12:09.509 --> 00:12:13.830 been going into my recent music killer boy little 00:12:13.830 --> 00:12:20.090 skies Let's see Frank Ocean Charlie X. I really 00:12:20.090 --> 00:12:23.190 like Charlie XCX Do you get the opportunity to 00:12:23.190 --> 00:12:25.570 see live music as a consumer not so much as a 00:12:25.570 --> 00:12:28.509 producer or a performer, but as just a fan? Yeah, 00:12:28.570 --> 00:12:30.690 sometimes and that's actually it is a nice it 00:12:30.690 --> 00:12:32.710 is nice to go to a show and not have to worry 00:12:32.710 --> 00:12:36.629 about all the technical things, right? Yeah, 00:12:36.669 --> 00:12:38.730 just to enjoy the music to listen to somebody 00:12:38.730 --> 00:12:43.230 that you like Yeah, it was just to elaborate 00:12:43.230 --> 00:12:45.710 on that question I was gonna say it's so much 00:12:45.710 --> 00:12:47.169 of the time when you're listening to music as 00:12:47.169 --> 00:12:48.929 an artist you're like analyzing it and not like 00:12:48.929 --> 00:12:51.629 actually like Living in the music right, so it's 00:12:51.629 --> 00:12:53.250 nice to take a step back sometimes and actually 00:12:53.250 --> 00:12:54.769 they just listen to the music instead of just 00:12:54.769 --> 00:12:57.730 like Analyze it right when was the last concert 00:12:57.730 --> 00:12:59.950 that you went to and who was it and was it here 00:12:59.950 --> 00:13:03.970 in the city? Yeah, I mean I like if you're if 00:13:03.970 --> 00:13:05.389 you're talking like are you talking like underground 00:13:05.389 --> 00:13:07.950 shows? Show where you were just a consumer and 00:13:07.950 --> 00:13:10.450 a fan. Yeah, so I guess the the last the last 00:13:10.450 --> 00:13:16.190 show I went to Was a P fest at skate bar, okay? 00:13:17.230 --> 00:13:19.289 It's just a bunch of underground Kansas City 00:13:19.289 --> 00:13:21.049 artists. There were some punk artists there from 00:13:21.049 --> 00:13:25.090 out of town, too, I think. It was a cool show. 00:13:25.929 --> 00:13:27.809 Kansas City's got a lot of energy, especially 00:13:27.809 --> 00:13:29.389 a lot of underground talent, if you know where 00:13:29.389 --> 00:13:32.480 to look. Yeah. And you mentioned being a senior 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:34.940 here at JCCC. Yeah. Does that mean you're graduating 00:13:34.940 --> 00:13:36.840 in December or you're going to graduate in May? 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:39.679 Yeah, I'll graduate next semester. Okay. Awesome. 00:13:39.820 --> 00:13:42.259 Awesome. Okay. What's been your favorite class 00:13:42.259 --> 00:13:43.940 that you've taken here or do you have a favorite 00:13:43.940 --> 00:13:47.559 moment? I'm not going to lie. I've really only 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:49.500 the only classes I've taken here have been a 00:13:49.500 --> 00:13:51.019 part of the studio recording classes because 00:13:51.019 --> 00:13:53.700 I got all of my gen eds out of the way at Emporia 00:13:53.700 --> 00:13:55.899 State. So I've really only came here for the 00:13:55.899 --> 00:13:58.539 studio recording and then I just got my transcript 00:13:58.539 --> 00:14:00.690 from Emporia State. my credit transferred from 00:14:00.690 --> 00:14:04.269 here. From Emporia State to Johnson County so 00:14:04.269 --> 00:14:07.370 I can graduate with my Associates here and get 00:14:07.370 --> 00:14:09.789 this the recording art certification perfect. 00:14:09.909 --> 00:14:12.509 So in the immediate when you graduate in May 00:14:12.509 --> 00:14:14.350 What do you think that's gonna look like for 00:14:14.350 --> 00:14:16.690 you? What are your next steps? Yeah, so there's 00:14:16.690 --> 00:14:18.389 a there's a lot that I've been thinking about 00:14:18.389 --> 00:14:20.129 recently and it's I think the first thing I'm 00:14:20.129 --> 00:14:22.450 gonna try and do is look for some sort of studio 00:14:22.450 --> 00:14:25.830 recording job either in live music or in a studio 00:14:25.830 --> 00:14:28.149 or You know, I'm gonna look for a recording job 00:14:28.149 --> 00:14:30.610 of some sort while pursuing my music on the side 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:33.720 I think that's the that's that's the first step 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:37.840 is just to find a stable like music job So in 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:40.679 addition to all of the academics and all of the 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:42.899 recording and all of the rebranding and all of 00:14:42.899 --> 00:14:46.220 the social media You also have a job like a paying 00:14:46.220 --> 00:14:49.580 job. That's kind of really cool. Actually, please 00:14:49.580 --> 00:14:52.259 share that with our listeners Well, well kind 00:14:52.259 --> 00:14:58.039 of I am I am Selling reselling clothing and sometimes 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:02.759 sometimes doing upscale So all I go to the bins 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:06.000 are like goodwill outlets and find vintage clothing 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:11.320 or thrift clothing and just You sometimes I'll 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:13.600 take it and upscale it so I can like I like patches 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.620 or like like so new things on it or like whatnot 00:15:16.620 --> 00:15:19.519 but Sometimes I'll just take the vintage clothes 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:21.659 clean them up and then repurpose them What got 00:15:21.659 --> 00:15:23.259 you interested in that and how long have you 00:15:23.259 --> 00:15:24.879 been doing that? I've really only been doing 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:26.720 this for like about half a year now. Okay. Oh, 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:30.690 so brand new. Yeah, I'm relatively new What got 00:15:30.690 --> 00:15:32.350 me into it is just watching YouTube videos of 00:15:32.350 --> 00:15:34.289 people that I like and some creators that I like 00:15:34.289 --> 00:15:35.830 that are doing it right now and they said there's 00:15:35.830 --> 00:15:38.230 good, there's a good side hustle and it's like... 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:41.240 Like what I could pay like $50 for a Gucci Gucci 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:42.980 logo on a white t -shirt or you go to a thrift 00:15:42.980 --> 00:15:44.879 store and get a cool t -shirt from the 90s for 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.080 10 510 bucks Yeah, and then to think that there's 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:49.379 a story behind that shirt. Yeah, you know what? 00:15:50.259 --> 00:15:52.159 I like that. It's being repurposed, and it's 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:53.840 not just going to waste absolutely not ending 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.759 up in a landfill So I can X Asher online can 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:58.840 folks see what you're repurposing and selling 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:00.639 or is there another way that folks can perhaps 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:02.419 purchase? No right now. I'm just looking for 00:16:02.419 --> 00:16:03.919 like the only way that I'm selling stuff is like 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.669 I'm just looking for like outlets that I can 00:16:06.669 --> 00:16:10.330 like sell my stuff at like like Like pop -ups 00:16:10.330 --> 00:16:12.610 is like that's a big one so like it's like mini 00:16:12.610 --> 00:16:14.570 or like garage sales like all over but a bunch 00:16:14.570 --> 00:16:16.570 of vendors like mini vent smaller vendors will 00:16:16.570 --> 00:16:18.149 come to these pop -ups and just sell a bunch 00:16:18.149 --> 00:16:19.570 of clothes and I've got like racks that I can 00:16:19.570 --> 00:16:23.080 bring and like Yeah, and then sometimes I'll 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:24.980 just like sell to like people that I know like 00:16:24.980 --> 00:16:26.539 I've got a story on my snapchat that I'll sell 00:16:26.539 --> 00:16:28.860 to friends and So it's not like super big right 00:16:28.860 --> 00:16:31.340 now, but it's just definitely just a solid a 00:16:31.340 --> 00:16:33.220 small side hustle I'm doing on the side something 00:16:33.220 --> 00:16:35.139 that brings you joy. Yeah. Yeah, you know and 00:16:35.139 --> 00:16:37.720 I think I think it's fun to you know I don't 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:39.500 have to do it just for the money It's definitely 00:16:39.500 --> 00:16:42.139 helped my like my fashion My fashion sense to 00:16:42.139 --> 00:16:44.120 and it kind of ties in with the music sure and 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:46.039 you never know how you're gonna meet folks You 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:47.759 know maybe somebody that might not know about 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:49.639 you as a musician or know your type of music 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:51.179 might purchase that for me would be like hey 00:16:51.019 --> 00:16:53.019 Yeah, that's really cool. You know, like you 00:16:53.019 --> 00:16:55.919 never know where your sources of fans and listeners 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:59.299 might be Here at JCCC. Of course, as you know, 00:16:59.299 --> 00:17:02.879 I'm also a music student here at JCCC There are 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:05.700 so many resources for student musicians the MIDI 00:17:05.700 --> 00:17:09.559 lab Studio space. Can you speak to those resources? 00:17:10.259 --> 00:17:12.099 Yeah campus or do you maybe not use them and 00:17:12.099 --> 00:17:15.799 you go someplace else? So I've used all like 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:18.200 I've used a good amount of the JCCC resources 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:21.400 I wouldn't say for my own projects, but I've 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:23.480 used them to complete like almost all of my projects 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:27.259 here and for my classes When it comes to out 00:17:27.259 --> 00:17:29.119 -of -school work, I've got a little at -home 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:32.880 studio And I've also got some good connections 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.900 with friends that I can get into some nicer studios 00:17:35.900 --> 00:17:39.279 with For some good prices. So sometimes I'll 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:40.579 record at a studio. Sometimes I'll record at 00:17:40.579 --> 00:17:45.299 my own house I will say if somebody from the 00:17:45.299 --> 00:17:48.750 the music department's listening Yeah, if you 00:17:48.750 --> 00:17:51.829 could get autotune like if you could get autotune 00:17:51.829 --> 00:17:53.990 on like all of the systems Maybe that would change 00:17:53.990 --> 00:17:56.910 my mind about recording here. I will say like 00:17:56.910 --> 00:18:00.460 I don't I don't need autotune But I'm also not 00:18:00.460 --> 00:18:03.680 seeing country or or like folk music so I think 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:05.319 auto -tune is kind of like a stylistic choice 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:07.220 That I feel like I feel like that's another like 00:18:07.220 --> 00:18:09.279 hot topic is that a lot of people think auto 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:11.839 to like people need auto -tune When it when in 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:13.420 reality is I can sing perfect. I just think auto 00:18:13.420 --> 00:18:15.640 -tune as to my style, right? Right, but that's 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:17.140 one of the that's one of their main reasons that 00:18:17.140 --> 00:18:18.440 I don't record here is just because they don't 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:20.119 have all the plugins that I would want to use 00:18:20.119 --> 00:18:23.359 to Record my specific style and I'm going I'm 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:25.500 more in that pop ish hip -hop ish kind of scene 00:18:25.500 --> 00:18:27.240 in there I feel like they're more tailored to 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:32.059 like rock or like Like rock or like I don't know 00:18:32.059 --> 00:18:37.359 more Not as like new music I guess like like 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:42.019 rap like yeah like like rap or like like There's 00:18:42.019 --> 00:18:44.180 like a bunch of new genres like hyper pop and 00:18:44.180 --> 00:18:47.140 like Did you know that the library in Olathe 00:18:47.140 --> 00:18:49.500 and the library in Lawrence have free studios? 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:51.900 I did not. Yeah. So all you need is a library 00:18:51.900 --> 00:18:54.279 card for the Lawrence library or for the Olathe 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:56.599 library, which also would be Johnson County Library. 00:18:57.180 --> 00:18:59.099 And yeah, you can get the studio twice a month 00:18:59.099 --> 00:19:02.359 for free. Do those studios come with like engineers? 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:04.900 No, you have to do your own engineering, but 00:19:04.900 --> 00:19:07.500 they do have the computer. You know what kind 00:19:07.500 --> 00:19:09.599 of like softwares they use? What's the one that 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:12.259 we used in MIDI music? Pressules. Yes, it's Pro 00:19:12.259 --> 00:19:14.279 Tools. It's not Ableton, it's Pro Tools. And 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:16.779 then they have instruments as well. So it's really, 00:19:16.779 --> 00:19:18.980 really cool. It's a free resource. The only drawback 00:19:18.980 --> 00:19:20.880 is you can only do it twice a month, and that's 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:23.279 because so many folks want to use it. Earlier 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:28.400 you said, I don't know how to phrase this, but 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:32.420 I will say that I was self -taught on Ableton 00:19:32.420 --> 00:19:35.220 when I first started making music. And then when 00:19:35.220 --> 00:19:37.240 I finally came to school here is when I finally 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:40.579 started learning Pro Tools. It doesn't matter 00:19:40.579 --> 00:19:43.000 what what you start on honestly like if you want 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:44.940 to start making music you should just start it 00:19:44.940 --> 00:19:46.259 doesn't matter what software you have available 00:19:46.259 --> 00:19:48.839 to if you have any sort of software or Have any 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:50.420 access to you should go and learn how to use 00:19:50.420 --> 00:19:51.819 it if that's something that you're wanting to 00:19:51.819 --> 00:19:54.900 do Something that I'm learning as a developing 00:19:54.900 --> 00:19:58.359 songwriter is that perfection is really the enemy 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:00.819 of good. And people think, I can't write that. 00:20:00.859 --> 00:20:02.759 I'm going to quit because it's not perfect. Just 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:04.700 write the bad song. Write the bad song and keep 00:20:04.700 --> 00:20:06.500 going. That's how you learn. You're going to 00:20:06.500 --> 00:20:08.539 learn by writing things that aren't necessarily 00:20:08.539 --> 00:20:10.160 the greatest, but you're going to get better. 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:11.900 Would you agree with that? Yeah, I'd say a lot 00:20:11.900 --> 00:20:14.319 of the times, instead of going back and fixing 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:17.589 a song, I'd say that I'm more willing to move 00:20:17.589 --> 00:20:20.069 forward and start a new song than trying to fix 00:20:20.069 --> 00:20:22.710 something in the past. Unless I'm really passionate 00:20:22.710 --> 00:20:24.910 about that song that I'm writing, then I don't 00:20:24.910 --> 00:20:26.650 want to as much go back and fix a song. I want 00:20:26.650 --> 00:20:28.170 to write something new. But do you think that 00:20:28.170 --> 00:20:31.430 the experience of it helps you? Like in my job 00:20:31.430 --> 00:20:33.390 in Human Resources, we would say every time you 00:20:33.390 --> 00:20:35.569 go on an interview, you get better at interviewing, 00:20:35.589 --> 00:20:37.650 right? So the next time you interview for a job, 00:20:37.789 --> 00:20:39.049 you're going to interview better. Do you think 00:20:39.049 --> 00:20:42.069 it's the same with songwriting? Oh, yeah. There's 00:20:42.069 --> 00:20:45.680 three principles in music. there's like three 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:50.700 r's and it's like repetition um repetition uh 00:20:50.700 --> 00:20:52.299 yeah no there's like three there's like three 00:20:52.299 --> 00:20:54.440 i'm trying to remember this there's like there's 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:57.240 like three there's like three keys to to being 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:59.079 a good musician and like i remember one of them 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:01.700 is repetition is doing something over and over 00:21:01.700 --> 00:21:06.299 and over again you know muscle memory yeah um 00:21:06.299 --> 00:21:09.589 there's a You can keep going. No, it's okay. 00:21:09.950 --> 00:21:12.309 Um, so what advice would you have and you somewhat 00:21:12.309 --> 00:21:13.789 said that you know If you want to write right, 00:21:13.869 --> 00:21:15.869 but what advice would you have for someone that 00:21:15.869 --> 00:21:17.609 were to say to you? Hey Kaden I want to study 00:21:17.609 --> 00:21:20.349 recording arts at JCCC or hey, I want to be an 00:21:20.349 --> 00:21:22.150 independent musician. How would you advise a 00:21:22.150 --> 00:21:26.009 friend that would say that to you? First I would 00:21:26.009 --> 00:21:27.329 like figure out what you're good at like what 00:21:27.329 --> 00:21:29.309 you want to do within the music industry So let's 00:21:29.309 --> 00:21:31.529 say you want to be like a singer or a rapper 00:21:31.529 --> 00:21:33.109 or let's say you want to just play guitar You 00:21:33.109 --> 00:21:35.009 know find what you're gonna do like your part 00:21:35.009 --> 00:21:37.299 your role and like What you're gonna do and then 00:21:37.299 --> 00:21:39.059 find your people that you need so like if you're 00:21:39.059 --> 00:21:40.460 gonna if you're just gonna be an instrumentalist 00:21:40.460 --> 00:21:42.380 Then you need to find other people to play with 00:21:42.380 --> 00:21:45.140 if you're gonna be like a solo artist then you 00:21:45.140 --> 00:21:48.599 know I'd say the first things that you're gonna 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:51.640 want to do or like The first thing is start making 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:53.619 music like if you've got a song If you don't 00:21:53.619 --> 00:21:55.000 have any start to start like if you don't have 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:56.980 any music to start with you know Just you just 00:21:56.980 --> 00:21:58.839 got to start writing I would say maybe go to 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:00.859 YouTube first YouTube is a great place to start 00:22:00.859 --> 00:22:03.359 You can find you can find all sorts of types 00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:07.299 of different beats there find inspiration I guess 00:22:07.299 --> 00:22:10.500 I guess if I were starting I would say Find what 00:22:10.500 --> 00:22:12.299 inspires me and then try and make something similar 00:22:12.299 --> 00:22:14.819 to that just to start You know you're not as 00:22:14.819 --> 00:22:16.180 a new artist you shouldn't be trying to make 00:22:16.180 --> 00:22:19.460 some sort of new genre or like right? You know 00:22:19.460 --> 00:22:21.519 don't get too niche. You know try and do something. 00:22:21.579 --> 00:22:24.359 You don't have to reinvent the wheel Do something 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:27.319 that you like already get inspiration from that 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:29.480 and you know just keep going from there. You 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:32.660 know you only You can only get better. You can't 00:22:32.660 --> 00:22:34.779 really it's it's it's almost impossible to get 00:22:34.779 --> 00:22:37.000 worse Yeah, you could only get better. I love 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:39.640 that. So as we're preparing to end our time together 00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:41.400 today Is there anything that you'd like to share 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:43.059 in closing with our friends that are listening 00:22:43.059 --> 00:22:47.240 and viewing? Any study tips any fun? How would 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:49.799 any stories from your performances anything fun 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:54.119 that you'd like to share with um? Yeah, I've 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:56.000 got a couple things I've had some advice for 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:57.980 my past self. Yeah, like if when I first started 00:22:57.980 --> 00:23:01.789 making music I would say Something that went 00:23:01.789 --> 00:23:03.710 over my head I guess would be there's like three 00:23:03.710 --> 00:23:05.569 main things to making music the first part is 00:23:05.569 --> 00:23:08.329 production The second part is the artistry and 00:23:08.329 --> 00:23:10.589 the third part is the engineering all in it takes 00:23:10.589 --> 00:23:12.410 those three things to bring like a song together 00:23:12.410 --> 00:23:14.690 Okay, and when I first started making music I 00:23:14.690 --> 00:23:16.650 really only focused on the artistry of it like 00:23:16.650 --> 00:23:18.490 I would just find a beat that I thought was okay 00:23:18.490 --> 00:23:21.130 and then I'd start writing music to it or I'd 00:23:21.130 --> 00:23:23.049 make a beat and I started starting I don't know 00:23:23.049 --> 00:23:25.250 you really like need to fine -tune each one of 00:23:25.250 --> 00:23:27.529 those aspects of music to get a good song so 00:23:27.529 --> 00:23:29.970 I kind of invested my skill points into artistry 00:23:29.970 --> 00:23:31.750 where I could have invested into other things 00:23:31.750 --> 00:23:34.210 as well like the end the mix and the master and 00:23:34.210 --> 00:23:36.589 the beat and the production so can you explain 00:23:36.589 --> 00:23:38.289 a little bit of the difference between engineering 00:23:38.289 --> 00:23:39.809 and production because I would have thought they 00:23:39.809 --> 00:23:42.660 were one in the same They're very similar because 00:23:42.660 --> 00:23:44.720 you can do both of them on in one program. Okay, 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:46.619 you can do all you can do all of it in one program, 00:23:46.619 --> 00:23:50.380 right? But yeah, the production is like the beat 00:23:50.380 --> 00:23:52.299 is the core of it, you know your drums your your 00:23:52.299 --> 00:23:55.140 other instruments you piano guitar bass You got 00:23:55.140 --> 00:23:57.259 your like everything that goes into making the 00:23:57.259 --> 00:23:59.980 beat minus like the vocals So that's your like 00:23:59.980 --> 00:24:03.420 your production Back in the day the producers 00:24:03.420 --> 00:24:05.019 job was a little bit different. It was kind of 00:24:05.019 --> 00:24:07.680 just to make sure that that the track was sounding 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.009 good and that the artists like You know the producers 00:24:11.009 --> 00:24:12.529 job was just to make the track better, but now 00:24:12.529 --> 00:24:15.269 a producer is somebody who makes beats I'd say 00:24:15.269 --> 00:24:18.349 the engineer it they take the they take that 00:24:18.349 --> 00:24:20.069 what the producer did and they make it sound 00:24:20.069 --> 00:24:22.410 better So when you sing when you sing directly 00:24:22.410 --> 00:24:24.369 into a microphone, it does not sound good, right? 00:24:24.789 --> 00:24:25.950 There's a lot of things that need to be done. 00:24:25.990 --> 00:24:28.549 You need to EQ it add reverb. Sometimes you got 00:24:28.549 --> 00:24:32.069 a delay DS it There's a million different things 00:24:32.069 --> 00:24:33.970 you could do to a vocal to make it sound better 00:24:34.889 --> 00:24:36.630 And to the same thing with your drums and your 00:24:36.630 --> 00:24:39.390 guitar. You got to EQ and there's a lot of things 00:24:39.390 --> 00:24:41.869 that go into the final product that I didn't 00:24:41.869 --> 00:24:43.789 realize when I first started making music that 00:24:43.789 --> 00:24:45.089 would have made me a better artist if I knew. 00:24:45.250 --> 00:24:47.329 It's not as easy, like you said, as just singing 00:24:47.329 --> 00:24:49.410 a song or like, you know, grabbing a backing 00:24:49.410 --> 00:24:51.170 track from YouTube and singing along with it. 00:24:51.170 --> 00:24:54.009 There's a lot more to it than that. So thank 00:24:54.009 --> 00:24:57.150 you so much for sharing your time with us, sharing 00:24:57.150 --> 00:24:59.650 your story with us. Everybody, please keep an 00:24:59.650 --> 00:25:04.819 eye on Kayden Axe Escher. Kayden Axe. Caden X 00:25:04.819 --> 00:25:10.420 Asher C -A -D -E -N -X -A -S -H -E -R Thank you 00:25:10.420 --> 00:25:13.799 In the coming weeks and months and remind our 00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:15.680 listeners and our viewers again when they can 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:17.920 see you in December at the rap battle Yeah, so 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:21.000 I'm just gonna be hosting it December 4th at 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:24.000 the skate bar from 7 to 10 But like I said 16 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:26.039 artists three judges one winner. It's gonna be 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:27.279 a crazy night. They're gonna be going head -to 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:29.599 -head I'm just gonna be the host for the night 00:25:30.750 --> 00:25:33.549 And then, yeah, hopefully if you follow me at 00:25:33.549 --> 00:25:36.869 KadenxAsher on Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok, any 00:25:36.869 --> 00:25:39.390 platform, YouTube, you'll see some of my new 00:25:39.390 --> 00:25:41.750 stuff coming out pretty soon. Yeah, I'm really 00:25:41.750 --> 00:25:43.589 excited. Thank you for having me. It's been a 00:25:43.589 --> 00:25:45.650 great time. Absolutely. You heard it here first, 00:25:45.670 --> 00:25:47.789 friends. All right. We're so thrilled that you 00:25:47.789 --> 00:25:49.829 were with us today. Thank you so much for joining 00:25:49.829 --> 00:25:52.569 us. As you know, we drop new content every Wednesday 00:25:52.569 --> 00:25:55.670 here on The Messenger Mic'd Up. So we can't wait 00:25:55.670 --> 00:25:57.990 to see you next time. Everybody have a great 00:25:57.990 --> 00:25:59.529 day. Stay safe. Bye.