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This is Jennifer Smith. Welcome back to The Messenger

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Mic'd Up. I am the host of our student stories.

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And today we are thrilled to welcome my friend

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Dave Durr to the podcast. Hello. How are you

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doing? Good. How are you? I'm great. I'm... Very

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excited to be done with work for the day and

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sitting down. Excuse me if I fall asleep. No

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worries. No worries. We'll keep you up. I promise.

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Excellent. Excellent. So Dave, would you introduce

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yourself to our listeners? Tell us a little bit

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about you, your job, your hobbies, that sort

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of thing. Yeah, for sure. I arrived here in the

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KC area in 92 with my folks, and I attended high

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school here. Shortly after that, I was actually

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a more traditional student here at JCCC for a

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minute. And then I took a little break, and then

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I got an associate's degree a couple years later.

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And here, way later in life, with alongside a

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family and a career and life in general, I decided

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to enter the classroom again. Fabulous. Tell

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us about your family. My family, I'm married

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and we have four teenagers and it's awesome.

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Yeah. Yeah. We have a MIDI music composition

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class together. Shout out to Dr. Olvera. And

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you shared with me that two of your teenagers

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are driving and two are not. Yeah, actually.

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Well, actually, all four of them are. have driven

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and my last one is permitted slash just took

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driver's ed here this last winter so yeah it's

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it kind of looks like a used car lot sometimes

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at our place how does that feel dad are you scared

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does it make you nervous to have your kiddos

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out on the road i am i am terrified i'm terrified

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being a passenger with anyone uh so i i would

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have to say my better half is the brave one actually

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taking them out and about way more than i do

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so mad props mad props to her for that uh i i

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get the simple role of maybe you know signing

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them up for driver's ed and getting them there

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and you know maybe putting air in the tires every

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once in a while but yeah otherwise Oh, man. Yeah.

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Talk about getting your heart rate elevated.

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Yeah. I only had one. You have four. My girl

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is 23, as you know, because we talked about that.

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But I remember when she first started driving,

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I was like, I can't do this. There's nothing

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in the world that prepares you for your kids

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growing up and the level of things. Yeah, for

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sure. At this point in time, just looking ahead

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to the summer, really just so cars start better

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and maybe less. problems with the vehicles, you

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know, just, you know, easier day to day living.

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Right. Less ice on the road. Seriously. No scraping.

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Yeah. So how did you guys fare last night with

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the storm? Did you guys have any power outages?

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No, I fell right asleep. Yeah. That's an easy

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one for me. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. So tell us about

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your line of work. You've shared with me offline

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just between us as friends, but tell our listeners

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about the work that you do, which I think is

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very cool. Yeah. Yeah, thank you. It's, we're

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culinary, culinarians. So at this point, we own

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and operate a small farm to table restaurant

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in Overland Park that specializes in handcrafted

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sausage. So, yeah, we We enjoy doing that. And

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yeah, we definitely have the quote unquote boutique

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hours and work with a lot of local farmers and

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stuff. And that was a very DIY effort when we

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started in 2012, just based on the sausage making

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hobby that I actually learned down in the kitchen

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here on campus. Yeah, from Chef. Felix Stermer,

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that was like one of my big takeaways from culinary

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school. But anyways, yeah, that's a whole other

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area of this segment. Yeah, so that's what we

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do now. And we focus on breakfast, lunch. We

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have a couple small wholesale accounts. And yeah,

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just putting quality first. Wow, that's fantastic.

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How can our listeners learn more about your business?

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Oh, you can hop on the old Google. You could

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walk right in the front door and see what's going

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on. But, yeah, if you Google Wiener Kitchen,

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that's our establishment. Wow. Fabulous. Fabulous.

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And you said you've been doing this since 2012?

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Yeah. Our first vein of the business, we called

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that Wiener Wagon, and that was a self -built

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hot dog cart. Yeah, we learned plumbing. sharpened

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up our painting skills and yeah it's you know

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just essentially opened a small restaurant on

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wheels yeah it's it was really cool how such

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a teeny tiny investment was just paved the way

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for something that we're still making a living

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doing yeah yeah so that's been on since 2012

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we spent a lot of time doing caterings, Overland

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Park Farmers Market, weddings, funerals, brewery

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visits. whatever, wherever it took us. And then

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we've been operating the brick and mortar since

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2017. Wow. That's fantastic. That's fantastic.

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Thank you. And it's wonderful to see how a dream

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that started for you so many years ago because

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of your time here has come to fruition and the

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good that you have done. I mean, what you said

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about weddings and funerals, and I love the farmer's

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market. I mean, everybody who lives here loves

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the farmer's market, you know, in Overland Park.

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And so that's wonderful. All the lives that you've

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touched. Is there anything that you like making

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food -wise? Like, are there any special recipes

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you want to share? Oh, wow. I love... Is it all

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secret? No, it's not secret. I mean, I really

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feel that if it's worth talking about, it's worth

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writing down, it's worth sharing. I've been...

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I used to have more the secretive approach, but

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then you kind of look back, and you're like,

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wait a second, that's not fostering. community

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that's not fostering learning so yeah I really

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think and then with that like full circle here

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also always give credit where it's deserved you

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know it's it might be similar to a song or a

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style of I don't know, fashion or something like,

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hey, this is really great. Well, yeah, I actually

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got influenced by this person over here and I

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kind of put my own spin about it. But I like

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cooking all kinds of things. Yeah, for sure.

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I mean, but simple. I mean, you know, simple,

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just done right. I obviously like making sausage.

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It sometimes wears on you because it's what I

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go to work to do. But, you know, yeah, I do like

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cooking. Do you cook in the house? Yes. Oh, yeah.

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So what's your favorite recipe? Favorite recipe.

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Wow. Currently is the cinnamon roll recipe that

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I honed in on during the pandemic area when all

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we did was cook. I went through three or four

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just cinnamon roll recipes. Nice. And I found

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the one. And I really enjoy making that and pretty

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much eating the whole pan. So what I'm hearing

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you say is you're going to bring some to class

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tomorrow night for us, right? Is that what I

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heard you say? Absolutely no way. No way. Keyboards

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and icing doesn't really sound that amazing.

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No, probably not. Yeah, sure. Well, you guys,

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I tried. Right. I don't know, maybe for... End

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of semester celebration or something. All right.

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I'm going to hold you to that. I'm going to hold

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you to that. Well, yeah. So something that we

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have in common and something that you shared

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with me at length, and I loved getting to know

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you and I loved sharing these stories with you,

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is the fact that you're a musician. Can you talk

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to me a little bit about your musicianship? Of

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course, we met in MIDI music. I will say this

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to our listeners. I sit right behind him. I've

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heard the stuff that he mixes. That's really

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good. So tell us a little bit about your journey

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as a music lover and a music person. Wow. Yeah,

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thanks. Yeah, very true. I do love it. I love

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to be considered a music person. I think music,

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food, friends, I mean, that's pretty much what

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keeps me going. I think that's what brings a

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lot of us together, and it's just all great art

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expression. As we get older, you understand that

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those are really what makes you tick. I was surrounded

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by music when I was young. A lot of singing along.

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Some of my oldest memories are because I was

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singing about the dog. I won't ruin this room

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right now with us and try to recreate this song.

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My mom and my dad could have always sang that

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song. My sisters were 10 years older than me,

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so they were into really pop stuff in the 80s

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and really cool stuff. I remember Duran Duran

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and when MTV came out and just being exposed

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to all that. I never really fought with my sisters

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that much because we never had much to fight

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about except for like, are we going to watch

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Club MTV or are we going to watch cartoons? I'd

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usually just sit there. Um, so music, music.

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Yeah. Um, I was in elementary school era when,

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uh, hair metal, heavy metal was pretty cool.

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And, uh, you know, all, I will say one of, one

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of my biggest influence that really got me into.

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maybe brought me from being a music person to

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maybe more of a musician, aside from the required

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stuff like choir in elementary school, was Appetite

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for Destruction, which I still feel is one of

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the best debut hard rock, heavy metal albums

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out there. That's one of those things that if

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we can agree on that, that that's really okay,

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we're probably going to get along just fine.

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I was hoping you would tell the Appetite for

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Destruction story, so share that with our listeners.

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Yeah, I mean, it kind of got out there that there

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was a... group of us who like you know poison

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and death leopard and all those you know all

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those bands that you either may love or hate

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um love yeah guilty and uh yeah this guy ben

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he lived in the apartments across from me uh

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real close to where we went to school and he

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was already really talented at the guitar and

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i just sitting there in his room like okay what's

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going on here and he's like let me show you and

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then he pretty much just showed me how to play

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the whole record or tape at that point. I'm not

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pretending I was, we were listening to vinyl

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and when I was in fifth grade. This was the 80s,

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not the 70s. Yeah, yeah. Now my sisters did,

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but we're, you know, cassettes, right? Right.

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And yeah, so we started with, you know, I just

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started learning bar chords and... Before I even

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knew what any of these songs were about or how

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risque it was, how bad my mom hated the image

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of these dudes or whatever, I was like, yeah,

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this is it. I found it. So we played. We played

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talent shows, and we wrote our own medleys of

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stuff. I took some crash course guitar lessons,

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and a couple years later got a bass. I don't

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know, just music always brings people together.

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I played in bands in high school and then in

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Lawrence afterwards. Big hiatus, but a lot of

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my friends just growing up around here, like

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the punk revival scene in mid -90s was really

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great, and a lot of my friends introduced me

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to that. So I spent a lot of time just around

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Overland Park, a lot in Kansas City, and a little

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bit of Lawrence. really understanding how fun

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it was to listen to that kind of art and the

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cool like no frills loud fast attitude and stuff

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so i mean that's that that had a lot to do and

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still like the punk movement and stuff is still

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a big part of uh a lot of my friend group that

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we go back to you know that that era um continuing

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on a lot of my friends kept doing it going on

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tour they still write they're still in bands

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it's always been inspiring try to support them

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always try to be i don't want to say current

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but still like pretend and i i mean music has

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gone so far the scene is way out of anything

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that i can even fathom these days like i can't

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even keep up yeah now now you know i never tried

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to drill stuff into my kid's head but And my

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kids' tastes are all across the board. But still

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love music, still looking for new stuff. A friend

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the other day just sent me a list. He's like,

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this is my favorite band right now. It's like,

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that's great. That's what I want to know is who's

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your favorite band right now? What are you listening

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to? You know, like that's the exciting stuff.

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So, yeah, we resurrected. like a power pop, pretty

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boy punk band. And we played a show a couple

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months ago out in Kansas City, which was fun.

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We have plans to keep doing that. And then just

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playing with some more friends. And I mean, again,

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continuing on the music wagon, all of the tinkering

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around with instruments and digital audio workstations.

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finally at that point in my life, I'm like, I

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should really learn how to use all of these items

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in my, in my basement. So that's, that's why

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I am taking a step back or taking a step up.

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I don't know. I feel like it's learning at a

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higher level. It's just super fun. I came into

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it with zero expectations except for I'm ready.

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And it's, what are we now? Seven, six or seven

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weeks deep. Yeah. And it's just. I mean, I learn

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something every single day. Yeah, I do too. It's

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so fun. And it's fun. And it's really fun to

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be with all of you because I think we all like

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a little bit of different types of music or genres

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of music. And to hear what everybody comes up

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with is so exciting. So it's fun to sit by you

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because every so often, I'm not going to lie,

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I kind of spy a little bit. I'm not going to

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lie, I do. It's really good. And it's, you know,

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I mean, it's a new environment. If you're a kindergartner,

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if you're a... college student at you know 18

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or 68 or whatever and i didn't really know what

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to expect i was like okay there's gonna be after

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the first day we lost what three or four people

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yeah we did okay and and there was just kind

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of no talking except for the teacher yeah and

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we really kind of our first impressions of each

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other was when we all got to listen to each other's

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first project which is which is a very like Very

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fun experience. So I want to do that every single

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day. Listen to what everybody else is doing.

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I enjoyed that. Yeah, that was a really cool

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experience because I think we were all very into

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ourselves. You know, we weren't really talking

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to anybody else. It's like you said to me that

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one night, we might as well have been a virtual

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class. Seriously, could have been a virtual class.

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Because we weren't talking at all. Yeah. But

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Dr. Olvera had us do this really cool thing,

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you guys, where we did our song in the digital

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audio workspace. For us, it's Pro Tools. But

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there are a million different other ones. And

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we put them up on the screen. So you could watch,

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you know, the waves and such of the music. And

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then there was a group chat. And we had to, you

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know, give each other feedback. And the kindness

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and, you know, the wonderful things that people

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said in support of one another was kind of all

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it took. Because now everybody's like, hey, how

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you doing? Hey, what's going on? And that's kind

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of what made me feel like, hey, Dave, hi, I'm

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Jen. You're really cool. You want to be on the

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podcast? You know what I mean? So it opened.

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It's a good thing. It's great to be a student,

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isn't it? Yeah, it really is great to be a student.

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And I think we're proof positive at our age.

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We're spouses and we're parents and we have full

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-time jobs. You have a business. It's never too

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late. It is never too late. And the beautiful

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thing about being here is that everybody's fantastic

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and kind and really wants you to succeed and

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do well. Yeah, and that's been consistent. I

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mean, the reputation of this facility, of this

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institution, it's held its value since day one.

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I mean, cool. Well, it's a community college.

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No, it's seriously way more than that. It's so

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top -notch, really. Yeah. Good stuff. Very good

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stuff. So I want to circle back to two things

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that you said. Sure. You talked about your, what

00:17:23.789 --> 00:17:26.410
did you say, pretty punk boy? Oh, yeah. Your

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buddies that you did the show a couple months

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ago. Yeah, I'll call it pop punk. Pop punk, okay.

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Yeah, there was a flyer that somebody just, I

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mean, way back in the day, we had to. you know,

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use charcoal and pencils and pens and cut things

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out on flyers. And I just remember that whoever

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made the flyer for our band that day said Pretty

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Boy Punk. Love that. Yeah, because we're all,

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you know, we're all pretty boys, I guess. But

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whatever. But yeah, just punk rock. Yep. So would

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there be any opportunity for our listeners to

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hear you guys now? Like, are you doing anything

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live upcoming? Or do you do anything like on

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Spotify or YouTube where folks could check you

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guys out? So. There were two or three demo tapes.

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So that band is called Two Player Option. Two

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Player Option. Yeah, Two Player Option. So it

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was a busy December. In one week, we had like

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three rehearsals and obtained both a Facebook

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and an Instagram page. I mean, this was our first

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show in this century. So back in the 90s, there

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wasn't even MySpace or Friendster, right? Yeah,

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right. So no, there's demo tapes right now. And

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those are... I think we probably made like 30

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of those in the 90s. So if you can find one,

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good luck. It's probably worth like $4. But no,

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it's I mean, and that's one of those things,

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too. Like we put it together for the show and

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we've been on hiatus because we're busy and the

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weather. Yeah. And we all live on different sides

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of the city. But there's a group chat and we

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talk about it and it's we're ready. So, yeah,

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I mean, it's. Yeah, if you really want to keep

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up with that, it's I mean, there's the handle

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on the on the gram is that two player option.

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And I got to jam with some other friends over

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this weekend and they're called Hanalee and we'll

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see what that happens. So we had our first jam

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practice the other night and playing with some

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old friends who are really writing cool songs,

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too. So just kind of stepped in and. Had fun.

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Very cool. Well, you heard it here first, guys.

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You also mentioned enjoying learning who your

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friends are listening to. What are the artists

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that are on your Spotify playlist right now?

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Who can you share with us that we might not know

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about? Wow. So. Man, that's a loaded question.

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You know, when I. We listen to music all day

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in the restaurant. Oh, I bet. Yeah, and one of

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my favorite things as far as listening is when

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I start to hear a song that has been sampled

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and then finally discovering where that came

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from. Oh, yeah. That's one of my all -time favorite

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things to do, so I'll click like that song or

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whatever. I'm terrible at names, but that encompasses

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a lot of my liked songs. My kids are good influences

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for me over the years. I was taken to Tyler,

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the creator, three or four years ago with my

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oldest, and I think that stuff is fantastic.

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Some of my all -time favorites, I like a lot

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of Ramones core stuff. There's a band called

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Chicks Dig It from Canada that just is... front

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to back great um newer stuff my friend just introduced

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me to a band called dark thoughts and they really

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got me going off you know they're just you know

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again ramonesy kind of stuff uh the mean jeans

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put out a record a year ago called blasted they're

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really good that's a really fun record My friend

00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:07.839
Josh, I just saw him last weekend. They've resurrected

00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:09.740
their band called The Anniversary. They're a

00:21:09.740 --> 00:21:12.519
Lawrence -based Kansas band. So to see them,

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and they played with the Get Up Kids and other

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local superhero, you know, poppy, you know, emo

00:21:22.019 --> 00:21:24.579
kind of band like that. To see them still...

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doing what they started 25 years ago and still

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just captivate holding a you know a captive audience

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it's so much fun so i still a lot of stuff i

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listen to is the same stuff that my friends told

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me about 30 years ago like like oh god what what

00:21:41.950 --> 00:21:44.910
i just told you uh chicks dig it uh screeching

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weasel the queers uh a lot of old hip hop stuff

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all the uh um you know all the all the west coast

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stuff that like dr j easy started all those i

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mean just yeah timeless stuff i i've uh i've

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become a again because of my kids and whatnot

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i've been become a fan of mf doom and the way

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that they twist stuff is just amazing i listen

00:22:08.099 --> 00:22:12.640
to radio for variety um i really like uh there's

00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.519
that oh cool j rock the bells radio which just

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kind of gives us a good uh a good dose of the

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classics and the old school hip hop guys just

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doing really cool stuff. But like I said, I'm

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always in for something that's fun to listen

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to. So, yeah. What about you? What are your favorites

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these days? Well, I grew up, and I think you

00:22:37.630 --> 00:22:39.430
and I talked about this. I grew up, you know,

00:22:39.450 --> 00:22:41.410
wanting to be a singer. And I grew up in the

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70s and the 80s. So I used to have this red shag

00:22:45.269 --> 00:22:47.269
carpet in my room. It's funny, you know, the

00:22:47.269 --> 00:22:50.160
things that you remember. This boy. red shag

00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:52.299
carpet and i used to sit indian style on the

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floor with my tape player and play olivia newton

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john tapes over and over and over you know she

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was my muse to be a singer and i was never really

00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.480
the groupie sort you know like when you see those

00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:05.799
videos from the 60s of the girls like oh the

00:23:05.799 --> 00:23:09.190
beatles You know, I was never the groupie kind

00:23:09.190 --> 00:23:12.109
of girl, but for her I was because she was just

00:23:12.109 --> 00:23:16.329
this huge, you know, light and muse to me to

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be a singer. And then she passed away, of course,

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which just broke my heart. I don't know. I like

00:23:22.339 --> 00:23:25.819
a little bit of everything. I really do. My daughter,

00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:28.319
like your kids get you into good stuff. My daughter

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got me into Chapel Roan, who I think is phenomenal.

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What a beautiful voice. Yeah, I like a little

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bit of everything. This kind of depends on what

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the mood is. We were out at dinner the other

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night and they were playing Stevie Wonder. And

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I was like, oh, yeah, mama's going to be listening

00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:47.200
to some Stevie Wonder on the way home. Phenomenal.

00:23:47.259 --> 00:23:50.700
Yeah, good stuff. On the topic of artists, if

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you could collaborate with any artist, living

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or dead, who would it be and why? And I know

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that's like a huge loaded question, right? Wow.

00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:10.700
I wasn't prepared for that one. I don't know.

00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:16.440
I would say no. Oh, I mean, yeah, that'd be amazing.

00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:19.359
That would really be great. I, yeah. I mean,

00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:25.099
yeah. Any of the remotes guys, but man, seriously,

00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:27.759
you want to think on that and we'll come back

00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:30.039
to it. Yeah. That's going to be a while. How

00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:31.640
long, how long do we have? We have a couple hours.

00:24:33.180 --> 00:24:34.839
I'm going to need to make a chart. Can I borrow

00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:36.799
a pencil? Absolutely. Just bring it to class

00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:40.220
tomorrow. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. A followup.

00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:44.990
Yep. Who would you say inspires you in your life?

00:24:46.349 --> 00:24:51.029
Who inspires me in life are people that are creative

00:24:51.029 --> 00:24:58.309
without, kind of without any reservation or without,

00:24:58.450 --> 00:25:03.509
people that get creative, say things, do things.

00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.880
regardless of the consequences of what somebody

00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:10.220
might say about them, what somebody might think.

00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:12.400
People that are so confident and just driven

00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:15.339
to do exactly what they want. Authentically themselves.

00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.640
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, people are being themselves.

00:25:19.339 --> 00:25:22.599
Yeah, that's really inspiring to just have no

00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:26.299
filter, not pretending like you're doing it for

00:25:26.299 --> 00:25:30.420
somebody or, I don't know. Right. Yeah. And that

00:25:30.420 --> 00:25:32.099
you're doing it for the love of doing it and

00:25:32.099 --> 00:25:34.119
not to make the pretty penny. Yeah, for sure.

00:25:34.180 --> 00:25:39.660
Yeah, that's really important. That's cool. Has

00:25:39.660 --> 00:25:43.579
anyone throughout your life, from when you were

00:25:43.579 --> 00:25:47.500
young to today, given you advice or said something

00:25:47.500 --> 00:25:50.000
to you, like a little morsel of something that

00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:52.240
has resonated with you? Or maybe something that

00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:54.420
you've shared with your children or that they've

00:25:54.420 --> 00:25:57.900
shared with you that you carry with you? Yeah,

00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:03.599
I mean. Yeah, besides buy the tickets and take

00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:13.839
the stairs. Right. Yeah, I mean, I think I can

00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:16.099
owe that pretty much to my entire family because

00:26:16.099 --> 00:26:19.079
they've kind of brought up that in a positive,

00:26:19.259 --> 00:26:23.460
like, savor the day, just enjoy it. You can do

00:26:23.460 --> 00:26:26.640
it. You know, be happy. I mean, yeah, I mean,

00:26:26.660 --> 00:26:28.960
that's it. My dad told me a billion times, just

00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:32.599
be happy, Dave. Just be happy. Yeah. That it's

00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:34.599
a conscious choice. And I think a lot of people

00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:36.599
don't realize that it's a conscious choice. It

00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:38.960
doesn't matter how, you know, how down it is,

00:26:38.980 --> 00:26:41.019
how bad the chips are. You still have the choice.

00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:44.839
Yeah. Figure out a way to. Get over it. Get around

00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:46.960
it. To move through it. Yeah. To move through

00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:49.460
it. Yeah. The only way out is through. Yeah,

00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:51.119
for sure. You know, the only way out is through.

00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:54.559
Yeah, do it. Yeah. Right? So you've been down

00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:57.259
the JCCC road before. You know, you went to culinary

00:26:57.259 --> 00:26:59.440
school. By the way. Proudly. Proudly. Yes. I

00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:01.420
love it. So you're like a two -time Cavalier,

00:27:01.420 --> 00:27:04.099
which I love that. Well, maybe three, but we

00:27:04.099 --> 00:27:06.960
won't. The first time I was a Cavalier didn't

00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:09.920
work so well on my GPA. Yeah. It's okay. Yeah,

00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:12.329
right. We were all young. yeah for sure no no

00:27:12.329 --> 00:27:15.490
judgment well actually and i can't i can't i

00:27:15.490 --> 00:27:19.410
mean so when i got my student id here a month

00:27:19.410 --> 00:27:23.150
ago or something yeah you're fine when i got

00:27:23.150 --> 00:27:27.109
my student id here a month ago the gal at the

00:27:27.109 --> 00:27:29.529
counter it's like have you had one before i was

00:27:29.529 --> 00:27:31.769
like yeah but it's it's been a while like it's

00:27:31.769 --> 00:27:34.710
been a long time and she goes oh you have a really

00:27:34.710 --> 00:27:40.069
low number Thanks. Yeah, like I was student number

00:27:40.069 --> 00:27:44.529
506. You were here in the 1970s when we opened.

00:27:44.529 --> 00:27:48.069
Yeah, so all my, I mean, my parents were very,

00:27:48.130 --> 00:27:51.750
I didn't get the free ticket to wherever. I wasn't

00:27:51.750 --> 00:27:55.549
academically at the top. We didn't have all kinds

00:27:55.549 --> 00:27:59.750
of funds ready for my parents to funnel me down

00:27:59.750 --> 00:28:02.029
the drain. A lot of my friends were going to

00:28:02.029 --> 00:28:07.240
KU, K -State. This is awesome. go here we're

00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:09.000
in the neighborhood always been in the neighborhood

00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:12.119
for 30 years or you know right around here and

00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.119
uh yeah first time around i i was more interested

00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:16.960
in still hanging out with my friends playing

00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:20.000
music i did do some great paintings great drawings

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:26.740
but i tanked in pre -trigonometry Algebra 2,

00:28:26.819 --> 00:28:29.640
whatever that was. My art history class, I was

00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:31.559
falling asleep, and luckily I knew one of the

00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:33.359
gals from high school who gave me the answers.

00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.299
And then at some point, it's uncharted territory.

00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.720
I don't know when, but I did enroll in this mini

00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:44.680
music class that we took at some point in the

00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.460
90s, which I don't know why I stopped, but I'm

00:28:47.460 --> 00:28:49.099
so glad that I've started again. Oh, me too.

00:28:49.259 --> 00:28:52.660
Yeah, and then through all this, I did some graphic

00:28:52.660 --> 00:28:56.349
design stuff. penn valley community college as

00:28:56.349 --> 00:28:57.950
well but whole time i was just cooking for a

00:28:57.950 --> 00:29:03.329
living and uh my wife hired me on early like

00:29:03.329 --> 00:29:07.109
2001 right around the you know the big 9 -11

00:29:07.109 --> 00:29:10.250
thing and uh yeah at that point in time it was

00:29:10.250 --> 00:29:12.250
like well you should probably go to school so

00:29:12.250 --> 00:29:15.630
i went to culinary school and it was at that

00:29:15.630 --> 00:29:17.490
point you know took that little break after high

00:29:17.490 --> 00:29:20.650
school where i was kind of a you know Man of

00:29:20.650 --> 00:29:22.569
the world. Yeah. Being a little wishy washy.

00:29:22.630 --> 00:29:25.130
And then, yeah. And school was very beneficial

00:29:25.130 --> 00:29:30.150
to me then. And I guess what was so cool about

00:29:30.150 --> 00:29:31.970
that is like, I thought that I kind of wanted

00:29:31.970 --> 00:29:36.109
to cook for a living and I really liked the arts

00:29:36.109 --> 00:29:38.750
and I liked the pace and I liked talking and

00:29:38.750 --> 00:29:41.250
all that stuff. But what I had no idea is that

00:29:41.250 --> 00:29:43.230
how much I would like sausage making. So just

00:29:43.230 --> 00:29:46.619
one day in class, it was like. This is sausage

00:29:46.619 --> 00:29:48.980
making, so I got to make sausages for one of

00:29:48.980 --> 00:29:51.500
the student events in the courtyard, and then

00:29:51.500 --> 00:29:54.000
I did it again, and then I started doing it at

00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.849
home. Fast forward 20 years, here we are. Now

00:29:57.849 --> 00:30:00.269
it's how we make a living. I think that's one

00:30:00.269 --> 00:30:02.569
of the most wonderful things about JCCC is that

00:30:02.569 --> 00:30:05.329
we have such a diverse community of interests

00:30:05.329 --> 00:30:07.950
and talents and jobs. You know what I mean? I

00:30:07.950 --> 00:30:10.730
don't know that in 53 years of life I've ever

00:30:10.730 --> 00:30:13.009
known somebody that was a musician and a sausage

00:30:13.009 --> 00:30:14.930
maker. You know what I mean? So that is really

00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:17.829
cool. Proudly. That's really cool. Thank you.

00:30:17.849 --> 00:30:22.490
Thank you. I didn't think in my lifetime that

00:30:22.490 --> 00:30:24.890
that was going to be the highlights of my resume.

00:30:26.380 --> 00:30:28.380
Well, sometimes life takes you in directions

00:30:28.380 --> 00:30:33.000
that you weren't anticipating. So when you look

00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.380
back on this time at JCCC, when you graduate

00:30:36.380 --> 00:30:39.700
and leave our campus behind, when you're looking

00:30:39.700 --> 00:30:42.059
in your rearview mirror, what do you want to

00:30:42.059 --> 00:30:43.660
take with you? What do you want to remember?

00:30:43.900 --> 00:30:48.380
And how will you define my time at JCCC was successful?

00:30:48.579 --> 00:30:52.880
Oh, that it was that I worked it into my schedule.

00:30:53.969 --> 00:30:59.670
And it was fun. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun and it

00:30:59.670 --> 00:31:05.390
enriched something that I enjoy doing. And it

00:31:05.390 --> 00:31:07.869
sends a message to your kids as well. You know,

00:31:07.910 --> 00:31:09.990
that it's never too late to take a chance on

00:31:09.990 --> 00:31:11.490
yourself. You want to go to school and learn?

00:31:11.549 --> 00:31:12.950
Go to school and learn. It doesn't matter how

00:31:12.950 --> 00:31:15.450
old you are. 100%. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Absolutely.

00:31:15.450 --> 00:31:18.890
Just do it. If you don't like it, make the change.

00:31:19.029 --> 00:31:20.789
That's right. Yeah. Or if it's something that

00:31:20.789 --> 00:31:24.250
you think you might want to do. There's a lot

00:31:24.250 --> 00:31:28.170
of pressure right now to figure out what are

00:31:28.170 --> 00:31:33.690
you going to do. Take your time. Try every single

00:31:33.690 --> 00:31:40.049
thing that you might want to do. If you dip your

00:31:40.049 --> 00:31:42.289
toe in the water, then you'll know. It's better

00:31:42.289 --> 00:31:45.089
to take the chance and maybe not be as happy

00:31:45.089 --> 00:31:50.769
than to wonder. What advice would you have for

00:31:50.769 --> 00:31:52.910
someone that's our age, maybe someone that's

00:31:52.910 --> 00:31:55.450
a parent, maybe somebody that's a full -time

00:31:55.450 --> 00:31:57.670
employee or a business owner, and they were to

00:31:57.670 --> 00:32:00.789
say to you, yeah, I can't. Dave, come on. I couldn't

00:32:00.789 --> 00:32:02.829
go back to school. What would you say to them?

00:32:06.210 --> 00:32:09.630
Why? You mean why can't you? Why not? Yeah. Why

00:32:09.630 --> 00:32:12.569
can't you? Right. Why not? I mean, I have – I

00:32:12.569 --> 00:32:18.559
know that this was a bug or a – something that

00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.279
I needed to a button that I needed to press and

00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:25.559
it just so happened that there was a class offered

00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.059
that didn't interrupt my work schedule you know

00:32:28.059 --> 00:32:33.640
I don't want to displace work slash other thing

00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:37.240
you know family stuff that could really get in

00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.220
the way right so I you know if if one of the

00:32:40.220 --> 00:32:42.940
classes in my path maybe next semester isn't

00:32:42.940 --> 00:32:47.519
available I think it would be fun to learn piano.

00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:53.720
I just want to keep trying it out if it's fun.

00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:56.819
If somebody else said, I don't know, I mean,

00:32:56.819 --> 00:32:58.859
gosh, you probably just don't want to go that

00:32:58.859 --> 00:33:01.619
bad. There's probably something that, yeah, I

00:33:01.619 --> 00:33:04.319
mean, I feel if you're motivated about stuff

00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:08.000
or you need to change that bad or you just want

00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.339
to learn something new, you need to do it. Yeah,

00:33:10.339 --> 00:33:13.200
just do it. Yeah, for sure. And know that this

00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.759
is a safe place to land. Johnson County Community

00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:17.819
College is a safe place to land. Yeah, it's great.

00:33:20.019 --> 00:33:21.720
What else would you like to share with our listeners?

00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.519
I don't know. I mean, I think that was a lot.

00:33:27.700 --> 00:33:29.740
That was a lot, but it's good stuff. We just

00:33:29.740 --> 00:33:32.799
dumped a lot, right? We didn't dump, we shared.

00:33:32.859 --> 00:33:34.980
Yeah, we shared. We shared. We broadened our

00:33:34.980 --> 00:33:37.420
listeners' horizons. The bands that you listed

00:33:37.420 --> 00:33:40.039
minus the Ramones are bands that I, and Guns

00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:42.730
N' Roses, of course. I was not familiar with.

00:33:42.829 --> 00:33:44.789
And let me go back to what you said about Appetite

00:33:44.789 --> 00:33:46.869
for Destruction. You said something along the

00:33:46.869 --> 00:33:49.490
lines of, if you like that album, we can be friends.

00:33:49.650 --> 00:33:54.089
My 23 -year -old daughter loves that album. Like,

00:33:54.109 --> 00:33:56.990
how do you know who Axl Rose is? I'm like, what?

00:33:57.430 --> 00:34:00.609
No, she loves Axl Rose. So it's very timeless

00:34:00.609 --> 00:34:06.029
music. Yeah, it really is. It still hits pretty

00:34:06.029 --> 00:34:09.469
hard. And it was fun to grow up in the MTV era.

00:34:09.769 --> 00:34:13.389
When they actually played videos. And you guys

00:34:13.389 --> 00:34:15.489
that are listening, trust us, they did actually

00:34:15.489 --> 00:34:20.230
play music videos a million years ago. My children

00:34:20.230 --> 00:34:26.130
have this idea that growing up in the 80s was

00:34:26.130 --> 00:34:29.869
so cool. And everybody just looked cool. We did.

00:34:30.269 --> 00:34:34.940
Yeah, that's right. We did. Jelly shoes. Our

00:34:34.940 --> 00:34:38.519
leggings and our bright neon shirts. Absolutely.

00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.800
Yes, yes. It was another time. It was another

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.320
time. Super cool. Very, very cool. Big hair.

00:34:43.579 --> 00:34:47.420
Big hair. Aquanet hairspray. I have to share

00:34:47.420 --> 00:34:49.519
this with you guys since we're all here in the

00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.380
Johnson County area. In Overland Park off of,

00:34:52.380 --> 00:34:55.920
I want to say, 151st Street, there's a coffee

00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:58.960
shop called Jinkies. And if you've not been there,

00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.739
go there. It's very retro vibe. Like they've

00:35:01.739 --> 00:35:04.559
got the 70s Saturday Night Live posters up and

00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.039
they've got little disco balls. And then in the

00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.239
women's bathroom, they legit, you guys, have

00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:12.280
Aquanet hairspray. I like that. It's just fantastic.

00:35:12.340 --> 00:35:14.420
Very important. If you're looking for a... retro

00:35:14.420 --> 00:35:17.380
vibe, definitely go get a latte. Jinkies, that's

00:35:17.380 --> 00:35:19.960
going to be the Scooby -Doo reference, right?

00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.059
Yes, and they have Scooby -Doo stuff and Pac

00:35:22.059 --> 00:35:24.059
-Man stuff. It's a really cool place. Yeah, I'd

00:35:24.059 --> 00:35:25.900
be okay with that. Yeah, so go check that out.

00:35:26.260 --> 00:35:29.980
Nice. Can you tell us, as a business owner and

00:35:29.980 --> 00:35:33.800
a dad and a student, how do you juggle all, and

00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:35.820
you know, musician on the side, if you will,

00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.619
how do you juggle all of that and make sure that

00:35:38.619 --> 00:35:40.460
everything stays organized, you don't drop a

00:35:40.460 --> 00:35:47.280
ball, that kind of thing? Yeah. You just keep

00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:51.519
it going. I've lived in fear. My wife and I have

00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.920
always lived in fear of, are we ever going to

00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.440
forget a catering? Are we ever going to forget?

00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.760
You know, it's just, you know, you're surrounded

00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.360
with people who appreciate, your family who appreciates

00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:06.940
what you're doing. You're doing it for the greater

00:36:06.940 --> 00:36:08.820
good, and it just kind of happens. It's nothing.

00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:15.599
I don't, I can't answer that. I've had that conversation

00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.619
with some of my best friends who say, I just

00:36:19.619 --> 00:36:25.289
have a job and X, A, B, C, D, E. You have. you

00:36:25.289 --> 00:36:27.489
know, this. I don't know. It's just what I do.

00:36:27.590 --> 00:36:31.789
I like to keep moving. I do, you know, like to

00:36:31.789 --> 00:36:33.530
keep moving. What's that old phrase that the

00:36:33.530 --> 00:36:35.969
body learns out of necessity? Yeah, if you've

00:36:35.969 --> 00:36:37.570
got to do it, you're going to find a way to do

00:36:37.570 --> 00:36:41.269
it. Yeah, my dad would remind me a lot that...

00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:45.239
we're gonna sleep when we're dead yeah yeah if

00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.320
you're fortunate you know if you if you if you

00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.659
take that opportunity you're right how many people

00:36:49.659 --> 00:36:52.320
sit back and let life pass them by you know and

00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:53.940
again that kind of circles back to what we were

00:36:53.940 --> 00:36:55.800
saying about if you have a dream or you want

00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.039
to take a chance take a chance yeah you owe it

00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.559
to yourself yeah yeah exactly i mean yeah and

00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.400
the more the more that you realize that that's

00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:09.679
100 true yeah nobody nobody was going to shake

00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:13.409
me and say hey i'm going to sign you up to take

00:37:13.409 --> 00:37:17.010
this class and you're gonna love it yeah that

00:37:17.010 --> 00:37:19.210
you must do it yourself you have to sometimes

00:37:19.210 --> 00:37:22.590
take action and just decide well this isn't normal

00:37:22.590 --> 00:37:26.829
for me but it's really okay right and yeah it's

00:37:26.829 --> 00:37:29.329
a good thing it's a really good thing to do no

00:37:29.329 --> 00:37:33.769
matter who or how old or anything yeah just do

00:37:33.769 --> 00:37:38.630
it just go for it I love watching old award shows.

00:37:38.929 --> 00:37:40.929
I'm like a total geek. I love watching old award

00:37:40.929 --> 00:37:44.190
shows. And hopefully some of our younger audience

00:37:44.190 --> 00:37:46.349
will know the show The Golden Girls. Remember

00:37:46.349 --> 00:37:48.690
that show? Of course. Well, it was a show about

00:37:48.690 --> 00:37:51.269
four, at that time, older ladies who, now I'm

00:37:51.269 --> 00:37:53.710
in shock, were my age. At that time, I didn't

00:37:53.710 --> 00:37:56.650
realize that. But one of, actually, I think throughout

00:37:56.650 --> 00:37:59.650
the tenure of the show, they all won Emmys and

00:37:59.650 --> 00:38:01.829
that sort of thing. And one of the gals won.

00:38:01.889 --> 00:38:05.429
And in her speech, her award speech, she said

00:38:05.429 --> 00:38:07.929
that in the 60s, somebody said, you're not pretty.

00:38:08.150 --> 00:38:09.869
You're not photogenic. You're never going to

00:38:09.869 --> 00:38:12.369
work on television. And she was devastated by

00:38:12.369 --> 00:38:14.090
that, which, what a horrible thing to say to

00:38:14.090 --> 00:38:16.269
somebody. And she said, Her mother looked at

00:38:16.269 --> 00:38:18.650
her and said, don't you know, every kick's a

00:38:18.650 --> 00:38:22.750
boost. Every kick's a boost. So if you start

00:38:22.750 --> 00:38:25.210
and you try something new and it tanks and you

00:38:25.210 --> 00:38:28.130
hate it, you gave it a shot. That's a boost for

00:38:28.130 --> 00:38:30.349
you to go do something else. And if we need proof

00:38:30.349 --> 00:38:33.710
of that, that's Dave. You know, you started and

00:38:33.710 --> 00:38:35.769
it didn't work out and you came back. Every kick

00:38:35.769 --> 00:38:38.429
is a boost, you know? Right. Yeah, for sure.

00:38:38.570 --> 00:38:44.170
Yeah, if this, if this. You know, we revisit

00:38:44.170 --> 00:38:48.210
this episode or this segment in a year, and I

00:38:48.210 --> 00:38:51.929
totally made a fool out of myself or made a big,

00:38:51.969 --> 00:38:56.309
I know, but made some big mistake by going to

00:38:56.309 --> 00:38:59.070
class for another semester. I would way rather

00:38:59.070 --> 00:39:01.050
have said, well, yeah, I gave it a shot, but

00:39:01.050 --> 00:39:03.150
it just, you know, it just didn't work out. Way,

00:39:03.230 --> 00:39:07.329
way, way better to try and make that mistake.

00:39:08.130 --> 00:39:11.300
100%. Agreed. Yeah. Well, before we bid you farewell,

00:39:11.420 --> 00:39:13.280
is there anything else that you would like to

00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:17.280
share with our listeners about music, about food?

00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.199
Oh, that's right. I forgot. Who would you collaborate

00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:24.420
with? Thank you, Zach. Podcast editor to the

00:39:24.420 --> 00:39:32.539
rescue. No, I don't think so. I mean, no. I mean,

00:39:32.579 --> 00:39:39.420
I really, wow. What was your first concert? Oh,

00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:43.480
my first concert was December 9th, 1990. Wow,

00:39:43.539 --> 00:39:45.119
you remember the date. I still have the ticket

00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:48.460
stub. I have too much stuff. Yeah, my sister...

00:39:48.460 --> 00:39:50.980
My birthday was a couple weeks prior, so my sister...

00:39:51.869 --> 00:39:54.150
Took me to the Target Center in Minneapolis,

00:39:54.309 --> 00:39:57.289
and I saw Warrant on their Cherry Pie Tour and

00:39:57.289 --> 00:39:59.570
Poison on their Flesh and Blood Tour. Did you

00:39:59.570 --> 00:40:02.730
see that show? I did too. Indiana State in Indiana.

00:40:02.969 --> 00:40:05.329
Yeah, that was great. I mean, that was my first

00:40:05.329 --> 00:40:10.130
real show. I saw Oak Ridge Boys when I was a

00:40:10.130 --> 00:40:11.929
little bit younger, but I like to say my first

00:40:11.929 --> 00:40:16.429
show was Poison and Warrant. You know, I think

00:40:16.429 --> 00:40:19.750
if I could collaborate with somebody. Yeah, I

00:40:19.750 --> 00:40:24.260
know it's hard. Yeah, it is. I think I would

00:40:24.260 --> 00:40:29.059
like to, I'm kind of thinking it would be fun

00:40:29.059 --> 00:40:31.539
to collaborate with like Dr. Dre because he's

00:40:31.539 --> 00:40:35.099
that like, yeah, I really, I really enjoy the

00:40:35.099 --> 00:40:40.340
fact that he has all this artillery yet. It's

00:40:40.340 --> 00:40:44.059
so, and it's always so just impactful, but I

00:40:44.059 --> 00:40:46.639
feel, and this, you know, this is a very like.

00:40:47.610 --> 00:40:50.230
grandiose but he's so reserved and like what

00:40:50.230 --> 00:40:53.190
he puts out is so selective so i think just somebody

00:40:53.190 --> 00:40:57.489
who's like a really influential very impactful

00:40:57.489 --> 00:41:02.610
songwriter mc i mean icon but just always has

00:41:02.610 --> 00:41:05.849
remained like top you know that'd be really that'd

00:41:05.849 --> 00:41:08.510
be fun yeah i would like to just spend the day

00:41:09.860 --> 00:41:12.179
You know. Following him around. Yeah, see the

00:41:12.179 --> 00:41:14.820
studio in the basement. Yeah, right. Yeah. That'd

00:41:14.820 --> 00:41:17.500
be cool. Yeah. Get into some, you know, silly

00:41:17.500 --> 00:41:20.679
stuff. Yeah. Snoop Dogg walks in. What's up,

00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:24.619
Snoop? Snoop Dogg walks in. Hashtag love. Hashtag

00:41:24.619 --> 00:41:27.980
love. Yeah, but that's hip -hop stuff. I mean,

00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.519
and those are just legends, you know. Those are

00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:36.400
natural legends as far as. As far as like, you

00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.719
know, the strings and the drums and stuff. I

00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:42.079
mean, gosh, that's a whole nother episode. That's

00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.079
a whole nother podcast episode. What about you?

00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:46.940
What about you? Would it just be Olivia Newton

00:41:46.940 --> 00:41:50.360
-John? Well, oh, of course, Olivia. Right. Olivia

00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.960
Newton -John. Once I got past the fangirl stage

00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.280
where I wasn't, you know, hyperventilating and

00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.519
crying because there stands my idol. I did grow

00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.070
up in the 80s and 90s as we've. discussed and

00:42:02.070 --> 00:42:06.570
I love strong women performers so Pat Benatar

00:42:06.570 --> 00:42:09.829
at that time you know was very very strong and

00:42:09.829 --> 00:42:12.670
is touring this summer with her husband so that's

00:42:12.670 --> 00:42:15.769
really exciting. I don't know. I loved so many

00:42:15.769 --> 00:42:18.050
different kinds of music. My dad was very much

00:42:18.050 --> 00:42:21.090
a music connoisseur, and so I grew up listening

00:42:21.090 --> 00:42:24.909
to everything from Bob Dylan to the Bee Gees,

00:42:24.909 --> 00:42:26.889
which today, to this day, I still think their

00:42:26.889 --> 00:42:29.389
harmonies were so beautiful. Phenomenal. And

00:42:29.389 --> 00:42:31.269
just feel -good music. Feel -good music. Did

00:42:31.269 --> 00:42:33.489
you see the Bob Dylan movie yet? No, I did not.

00:42:33.590 --> 00:42:37.250
Is it good? I don't know. I just fell asleep

00:42:37.250 --> 00:42:41.059
watching the... Grammys? The Oscars? Yeah, those

00:42:41.059 --> 00:42:44.280
ones. The ones for the films. Yeah, and that

00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.559
just showed up there a couple times. Yeah. Gosh,

00:42:48.139 --> 00:42:49.739
the last time I went to a movie, I went to see

00:42:49.739 --> 00:42:51.739
Wicked, which, with my daughter, because we're

00:42:51.739 --> 00:42:53.639
both Broadway people. I was up there for a couple

00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:55.679
awards. Yeah, it was a beautiful movie, beautiful

00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:57.880
movie. Yeah. No, so I think I would like to just

00:42:57.880 --> 00:42:59.900
collaborate with other really strong women. But

00:42:59.900 --> 00:43:02.579
I did have a crush in the 80s on George Michael.

00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:06.300
And please don't laugh and judge me. I, to this

00:43:06.300 --> 00:43:08.420
day, still think he was a phenomenal songwriter.

00:43:08.619 --> 00:43:11.039
And I'm really inspired, like you were saying,

00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:14.019
by people who are able to use words to tell incredible

00:43:14.019 --> 00:43:18.099
stories. He was one of them, for sure. Yeah.

00:43:18.260 --> 00:43:20.500
All of this art that we're surrounded by, whether

00:43:20.500 --> 00:43:24.780
it's on canvas or on paper or on record or digitally.

00:43:25.849 --> 00:43:29.869
I mean, that's another outlet for us as well

00:43:29.869 --> 00:43:33.570
is on plates or on menus. Yeah, for you, yeah.

00:43:33.710 --> 00:43:37.389
Yeah, it's like to seriously be making a living

00:43:37.389 --> 00:43:39.969
on something that's way elevated more than just

00:43:39.969 --> 00:43:45.130
survival, just eating a basic item every day.

00:43:45.210 --> 00:43:50.860
We get to make artistic food. It's amazing. Yeah.

00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:52.980
And it's just another way of expression. It's

00:43:52.980 --> 00:43:56.380
so cool. And in that sense, you're nourishing

00:43:56.380 --> 00:43:58.500
someone, you know, and it's the same way with

00:43:58.500 --> 00:44:00.579
music because music is nourishment. You know,

00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:02.440
you're feeding someone's body. That's a wonderful

00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:05.780
thing. And it's also, I mean, with music, it's

00:44:05.780 --> 00:44:09.699
not just the final output. same with food it's

00:44:09.699 --> 00:44:12.300
not just that plate it's also it's also the artist

00:44:12.300 --> 00:44:14.639
it's also how is it delivered what tools are

00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.699
you using what kind of shoes are you wearing

00:44:16.699 --> 00:44:20.139
right yeah i mean yeah yeah yeah is it i mean

00:44:20.139 --> 00:44:22.280
there's so many different parallels that that's

00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:26.039
like just makes makes it so interesting you know

00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:30.480
so yeah Well, thank you for being with us today.

00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.679
I'm so glad that I reached out to you, and I'm

00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:35.400
so grateful that you accepted our invitation.

00:44:35.699 --> 00:44:39.199
We've loved having you. Again, any parting thoughts?

00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:43.260
Yeah, no, you're so welcome. No, no, I'm excited

00:44:43.260 --> 00:44:46.000
to learn something new in class tomorrow, really.

00:44:46.219 --> 00:44:48.219
I'm excited for that cinnamon roll tomorrow.

00:44:48.420 --> 00:44:52.119
Cinnamon rolls, yeah, right, yeah, right. All

00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.000
right, folks, you heard it here. Jen wants a

00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:55.719
cinnamon roll, and if he brings them on the last

00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:58.159
night of class, I will definitely let you know.

00:44:58.090 --> 00:45:01.010
you know take some pictures post them to my socials

00:45:01.010 --> 00:45:03.969
um all right well thank you again dave for being

00:45:03.969 --> 00:45:06.429
here thank you to zach our podcast editor for

00:45:06.429 --> 00:45:08.849
being in the room with us tonight thank you zach

00:45:08.849 --> 00:45:11.429
and thank you to all of you for listening everybody

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stay safe and have a great day bye