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Welcome back to The Main Mic. My name's Harper.

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And I'm Mackenzie. And we're giving you our guests,

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the Girl Talk Debates. Yes, thank you so much

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for having us on. I'm Nerissa. I'm the president

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of our model United Nations as well. And I'm

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also, you know, one of the main creators of Girl

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Talk. And my name is Shreya. I'm the Vice President

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of Model United Nations at JCCC, and I'm also

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a part of Girl Talk, and you might have seen

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me at the Women in Politics Ask Me Anything table.

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And today we brought you guys here because I

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actually ran into you a couple weeks ago now,

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but you had your own little table in the little

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courtyard area, and it just kind of was... I

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was drawn to it because a lot of the things that

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you were advocating for really align and are

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obviously like it's woman history month and it's

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something that should be brought to us. I'm trying

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not to like give too many details so you guys

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can talk about yourselves, of course, but we

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really like. we were like oh my gosh these people

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are so cool we need them on our podcast and i

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appreciate it yeah for sure i always joked with

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treya that we always needed a podcast because

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unfortunately we will talk at each other for

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hours and yeah and we you know we're both interested

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in political science whether that be you know

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us pursuing it as a career or within our extracurriculars

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so we thought we'd go ahead and host that table

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for women's history month just so that we could

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kind of get some information out there and I

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feel like doing the ask me anything table was

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just like such a fun and trendy way to you know

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sit there and have people ask us you know, some

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stupid questions and some, you know, really important

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questions. You know, I opened that conversation

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to campus. Was the table really popular? Did

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you get a lot of like incoming traffic? Yeah.

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Honestly, not as much as we would have hoped,

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but as much to be expected with how the days

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were going, if that makes sense. We had some

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really good conversations, I feel like. Yeah.

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Honestly, like. We were surprised with like how

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many people were able to come up to us and want

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to have dialogue with us. That was very like,

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I appreciated that. I think it's also like, you

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know, everybody's like trying to get to their

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classes and there's a very limited amount of

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time. So, you know, we weren't expecting too

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much, but I think the conversations that we did

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have were very productive and I think very engaging

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and fulfilled the purpose of the table, which

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was to be educational. Yeah, 100%. I will say,

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people were very respectful, which is, like,

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just something I wanted to highlight. Like, what

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an amazing thing that our campus was respectful

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about an Ask Me Anything table, because I feel

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like you usually see the clips of them going

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a little crazy. Oh, yeah, we were kind of worried

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about the online. We were, like, emotionally

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preparing ourselves, but it was totally fine.

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I mean, oh, well, what kind of questions are

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you guys getting? Like, do you remember? I remember

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someone asked us how many women there are in

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the world. What, like 4 .1 billion? If I remember

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that correctly. So we definitely had some funny

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questions. If we prefer cats or dogs, you know,

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people really took the anything serious. Name

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any woman. Name a woman. But we did have some

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really like productive conversations, you know,

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about. You know, Kamala Harris was a hot topic.

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Vaccinations, authoritarian governments. The

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election, body autonomy, things like that. Yeah,

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that's a pretty hot topic over here. We weren't

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one of the swing states, but we were almost.

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We're so close. Yeah, they got our hopes up in

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the first half, but it's okay. Tell us a bit

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more about your cause and just like what you

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guys advocate for. I mean, obviously there's

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like a long list and you're welcome to spill

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all, but just like tell us about Girl Talk. Girl

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Talk was like my... Passion Project, My Baby,

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just because. And like I said earlier, me and

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Freya always kind of joke about it, but there's

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so many men with a microphone. And unfortunately,

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we have to deal with them every day, you know.

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And there's some really hot people out there

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with podcasts, you know, like Ben Shapiro, Joe

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Rogan, Candace Owens. And it's just I think that

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there is a lot of conversations around that are

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for. more of an audience of men and so i wanted

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to call it girl talk because And I kind of want

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to talk about this in my first episode, you know,

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like girl math, girl dinner. And I just think

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it's important to kind of rebrand politics and

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economics and philosophy as girl talk. Yeah.

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Yeah, because like me and Treya, we love to gossip

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about current events and, you know, talk about

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philosophy and overanalyze everything, unfortunately.

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And I get a lot of people who come up to me and

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they're just like, I'm just a girl. And I just

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think that those are the most devastating words

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I've ever heard. heard and embrace my heart every

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time because it's um i i just feel like if they

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were a part of those dialogues if they were talked

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about it from a young age you know I always bring

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up like Thanksgiving, like at Thanksgiving, you

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know, the dads and the uncles are always arguing

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about politics or whatnot. And it's kind of not

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your purpose or, you know, not a conversation

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that you want to be a part of, you know, as a

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girl growing up. So it's I unfortunately was

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that girl who was always involved in it. And

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I just think, you know, I want to kind of rebrand

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that as like this is something that you should

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be talking about as girls. And we are smart enough

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to, you know, understand all these ideas. Yeah.

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It's really just like breaking that barrier.

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Now is a more important time than ever to be

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able to discuss these conversations. And it's

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like, if we can have girl math, we can have girl

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politics. Like, we always are discussing the

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socio -political state of the world constantly.

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And it's just like, it should be an inclusive

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space. It affects everyone. The world and everything

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is inherently political. So women should be allowed

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to have these discussions and not feel that.

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they're too stupid or not well -informed and

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things like that because I feel like there are

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a lot of barriers that prevent us from talking

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and prevent us from feeling like our opinions

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aren't important from a young age I feel like

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young girls are taught that like oh you know

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it's better to stay quiet than say anything and

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it's better to just like keep your opinion to

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yourself like be kind and things like that and

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none of those are inherently harmful but in the

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sense of like it does teach you to like internalize

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everything rather have open dialogue which can

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be so productive and helpful and it's like I

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feel like women are usually very supportive of

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each other, whether it's like in the bathroom

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of a bar or like in general, like we're always

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like there for each other. And why can't we do

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that in a political space? I just feel like we're

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so divided now. And it's so important to have

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these difficult conversations if we're going

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to get anywhere. Yeah, you're definitely right.

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It's always growing up. It's always you're thinking

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about how pretty you look or how you look according

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to like the male gaze. And it's like that's not

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the way that women should grow up. thinking about

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how to get a man how to keep a man like we should

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be more smart about the things that we want to

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do in our life whether it be politics or anything

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else even if it still is beauty we can be beautiful

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without thinking about it for attracting a man

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yeah and beauty doesn't compromise intelligence

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exactly it can exist at the same time yeah um

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well With this Girl Talk podcast and obviously

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Johnson County student and a model UN as well,

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what out of the three is like, I guess the question

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I'm trying to ask is being a student, model UN,

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and hopefully a future podcaster, what might

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be the most difficult thing out of all three?

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I think just balancing all three for me. I unfortunately

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have just always done a million extracurriculars

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and I've always been too loud and I'll never

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shut up, unfortunately. So, you know, things

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like Model UN and doing stuff like this is just

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I'm truly just doing it because I'm just so passionate

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about it and it doesn't feel like homework. And

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I know that other people on my Model UN team

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would. so heavily disagree with me. And they're

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probably procrastinating, you know, finishing

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their position papers right now as we speak.

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But maybe, you know, more specifically, if I

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were to like really answer the question, probably

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just be remembering that I'm a student at the

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end of the day and that, you know, I still have

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to take care of those responsibilities and then

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I can get to my passion projects a little bit

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later instead of procrastinating on my homework

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and whatnot. Yeah. With being a student here,

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do you hope to bring Girl Talk into maybe, like,

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a club at some point? I would love to. It's just,

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unfortunately, for me at least, and I know, you

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know, me and Trey have been kind of talking about

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what our futures here look like, but we're both

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towards the end of our second year, so it might

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look like transferring. I'm also a military spouse,

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so I, like, never know where we're going to end

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up next, but I would love, for something like

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that. And I see it so much at other schools.

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If anything, I hope that I can, you know, fuel

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the fire, put some ideas in there for other people

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to keep it going. That's, well, great. I mean,

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that's how I was drawn to you at your table.

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I was like, I'm amazed. I honestly, I'm sure

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you've seen what happens in those courtyards

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and who's always advocating in there. So it was

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really refreshing to have someone advocate for

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like, I guess, woman's rights and just have that

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visibility in that courtyard versus, I don't

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want to say it, but, like, you know. Those who

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must not be named. Exactly. It's okay. But it's

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exciting to finally see that visibility because,

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honestly, it is very rare to not, I guess. see

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it at our school but for someone to be so passionate

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about your own project and not like be scared

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about other people judging you because that obviously

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plays a huge part in nowadays like with social

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media and just students and young young adults

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in general like everyone is so like black or

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white and it's hard to surpass that with certain

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people like whatever's right or wrong left or

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right um you understand like it's it's refreshing

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to see that you guys are so passionate about

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something that should honestly be a part of every

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curricular and shouldn't be just a club or just

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a podcast um and it's just it's nice to see so

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much empowerment during one woman's history month

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and two after you know after events after everything

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that's gone down um but i'd love to just talk

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about why specifically you guys honestly you

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you said it was a passion project but how how

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do you feel about inspiring other people like

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what would be the sort of end goal for, I mean,

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you have the idea of a podcast. Yes. I just want,

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honestly, very early in the wraps, we kind of

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have talked about the different formatting that

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we want to do, but we're currently running the

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Instagram. I remember you actually came up to

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the booth and you used that phrase. You're like,

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I'm an Instagram warrior. And I think, you know,

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that's kind of how everyone starts is on Instagram.

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2020, I think, was the big time where everyone

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kind of was like, oh, politics exists. Like,

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let me start reposting some images. So we kind

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of started on Instagram just putting out like

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feminist literature, different statistics they

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can look at, just like really bite sized information.

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And then we want to work on having a podcast,

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you know, together, being able to have the conversations

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we have. And we are obsessed with video essays.

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Oh, yeah. Like. what was like our record like

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I think six hours like we've just yeah honestly

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and it's like we might as well just have a podcast

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because we're over here and like well yeah for

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like six hours our families don't know where

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we are and we're just yapping about like what

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like philosophy what did we talk about we talked

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about like we talked about Nietzsche today We

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talked about Taylor Swift and white feminism.

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That was a good one. The 100 games just came

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out. How the 100 games relates to American politics.

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um we talk about literally anything and everything

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and then make it political and make it about

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philosophy and make it about social sciences

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and i think that's a beautiful thing because

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i think it's like as much as that it's so easy

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it's accessible first of all to be like an instagram

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warrior to be on social media right it's something

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that's accessible to most people Like you said,

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it took like a lot to be for us to be out there

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at the courtyard and physically present. And

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I feel like, you know, especially after COVID,

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our culture has definitely shifted a bit to use

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the Internet as more of a medium to communicate

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with people. But I think something about politics

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is that it definitely reminds you about the world

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itself. The point of politics is to actively

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engage yourself in the world and as a community

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and with other people, whether that's advocating

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for yourself and your rights or the rights of

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other people. Yeah. And I think also for me,

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I just like when I talk about like my passion,

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like at the end of the day, like this is my passion

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project. And my true passion is just political

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literacy. Like I just want people to understand

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what I feel like are the basics. But unfortunately,

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you know, not everyone, you know, takes political

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science classes, but politics affects everybody,

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whether or not you choose to learn about it.

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And I think, you know, we talked about. often

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as like performance activism. And I think sometimes,

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you know, with Instagram Warriors, you get a

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little bit into performance activism. And so

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we kind of wanted to create something. People

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always ask me like, well, what can I do? And

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so this is kind of a way of directing people

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of like, this is a space where you can learn

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about the conversation and get a better understanding.

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And maybe, you know, we always want to provide

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different books that they can read into other

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podcasts, other video essays, like we'll always

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cite it. I love citing other things. And then

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also, you know, ways that they can make their

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community a little bit of a better place that,

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you know, at the end of the day, isn't the hardest

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thing in the world. Like at our booth, we wanted

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to hand out. different petitions and whatnot.

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Just so I always say like petitions is the easiest

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thing in the world. Anyone can sign a petition,

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takes two seconds, you can look up petitions.

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So we went ahead and created a list of those

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or, you know, places you could donate or even

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just educating yourself and other people can

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also be a form of activism, you know, tying it

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back into social media, but just, you know, kind

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of taking, bridging the Instagram and the performativity

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of it and making it true, you know, political

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action. true like impact I think that's so important

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especially right now when we have like the current

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administration attacking certain areas of academia

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whether that's like women and gender studies

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I think it's so important I think to not just

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have conversations with the yourself but the

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people around you and I think we've also shifted

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into a culture where a lot of people are afraid

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you know um and we love talking about this in

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the sense like just because we like know a lot

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about it and we're like total politics nerds

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does not mean everybody that we talk to about

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these things has to be a politics nerd you know

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like sometimes we'll like go into our like big

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words and stuff but the thing is it's like we

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want this to be accessible right you don't have

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to know everything to be able to speak about

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it If that makes sense, especially when these

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issues as women affect us on a day to day basis,

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you know, there needs to be way more respectful

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dialogue, way more open conversation with people,

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because that's how you get to know that. And

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I unfortunately feel like social media has become

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a space. that is like incredibly toxic in certain

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areas where it's like you're not having a conversation,

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you're just yelling at each other. And that's

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really why we wanted to have that table is just

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to have like open, respectful dialogue and understanding

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with each other and not end like that random

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jubilee BS, you know, that we see online. It's

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like, no, like how do we actually have a conversation

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with people and get to an understanding, you

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know? And I think we did do some of that with

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our table, which I'm really proud of. That's

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good. The Jubilee thing is just like I've watched

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a couple of them and it's just like Democrats

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against Republicans. And it's like this is extremely

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messy. It's just crazy. It's like, why are you

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having like a person that's like advocating for

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their own human rights and people that are like

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actively like, no, you don't deserve rights.

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That's crazy. Yeah. And they're like, fine, middle

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ground. Like what? and they never find middle

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ground no it's just an argument it's not a debate

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it's just an argument and it's sad to see yeah

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and it's just like social media i feel like you

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know it's become a space where like people are

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in echo chambers i think we've heard that word

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thrown around a lot like unfortunately we do

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we engage in spaces the internet that have algorithms

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right they tailor things that we see based on

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what we like and what we spend time on and then

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our worldview I think we've seen that a lot with

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this election too I feel like a lot of the disappointment

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was also around that it's like we were only around

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people that agreed with us and we were only hearing

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opinions that agreed with us and I feel like

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that also could have created like a false sense

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of optimism as well and it's just that when we

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get to these places where social media tends

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to demonize people that do not agree like think

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the same way as you And I think it's just so

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important to be able to have these open conversations,

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you know, especially in this time, even when

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it feels so divisive and so crazy, because I

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feel like a lot of the time when people can engage

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in respectful dialogue, you really do develop

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an understanding. And I think you do realize

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that like human beings all want the same things,

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which is just like, you know, health and happiness

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for their families. For sure. And you guys being

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able to be there in person, in the flesh, physically,

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instead of an online persona is 10 times more

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impactful than someone just seeing, well, seeing

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a video is more, I guess you can share it, but

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having someone physically in front of you speaking

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those words to you is, to me, I feel is always

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way more impactful than just scrolling mindlessly

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and watching video after video um not saying

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it's any less educational but having that connection

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with a person uh like at your table is just one

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of the more amazing tributes to you guys being

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able to sit there in in our court keep wanting

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to say court like room but like you know the

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courtyard yeah all right and we're back we now

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have zach on the floor with us You want to just

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say welcome in? I know you just said sup, but

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I was talking over you. Sup. Again. Okay. But

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now that we're all here, how was your spring

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break? I mean, we totally should have asked Mackenzie

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this too. Probably. Well, I talked a little bit

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with her before you came in, before any of you

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came in. Pretty much kind of the same. I've just

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been watching One Piece, all of it. I'm five

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episodes away now. Well, girls. We are huge nerds

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here. We really are. Me too. Yeah, we all are.

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What kind of nerds are you guys? I'm a comic

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book nerd through and through, I will say. Invincible

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has just came out with their season. Absolutely

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loved it. Beautiful. I'm also catching up with

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the boys, you know, with my husband. We've been

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watching a lot of that. It's actually kind of

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funny. My husband does not like comic books.

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Really? Yeah. And Marvel Rivals just came out

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also and poured into this conversation. I am

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Diamond 3. Oh, my God. You're higher than me.

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I know. I told you I'm a nerd. But it's kind

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of funny right now because over spring break,

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I was like, we need to catch you up on Marvel

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because all of these things I keep talking about.

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about so it's kind of been an uphill battle trying

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to get him to be on the same page as everything

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for sure and then nerd about you oh i'm like

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a traditional nerd i swear i feel like i'm i'm

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such a politics nerd like i literally spend my

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day watching video essays and like reading and

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i guess like musicals i don't know if that quantifies

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it but it's really just it definitely does hi

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hi i just like i don't know i love consuming

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like film and media and just tv And I'm such

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a yopper, so I don't know. And with that, we

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are going to go see Hamilton soon together. Oh,

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nice. Like official Broadway or Kansas City?

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Broadway, New York. Are they doing original cast

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or anything? No. No, I think the original cast

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has stopped touring for a while now. I know they

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have some reunions every now and then, but. I'm

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just like crossing my fingers that Lin -Manuel

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will make an appearance or something. I know,

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he'll just show up. You know what I was going

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to say? I'm glad he won't be there. Why? Have

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you heard Dear Theodosia? He ruins the song for

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me, I swear. When his voice like creeps in with

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his like talking singing. Oh, but Leslie's voice

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is so beautiful, so it kind of makes it up. I

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know, Aaron Burr, it's like I'm literally crying

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and then I hear Lin -Manuel Miranda like sneak.

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I wish. Have you guys seen the people on TikTok

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who have like a really good Lin -Manuel Miranda

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impression? It's scary. I wish I could do it.

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I just love seeing like songs or like musicals

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pop out and people are like, yeah, he wrote that.

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Yeah. Well, he's a really good composer. He's

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just. not so much a vocalist it's just like it's

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funny it's like you can just tell when he like

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wrote something and i just love that do you see

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that he was the one he wrote the music for the

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first moana movie right oh my god i love moana

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yeah um but he didn't uh for the second and a

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lot of people are trashing the second moana movie

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because it's not written by him but it's actually

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written by um just to like refresh your memory

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remember the whole bridgerton phase that tiktok

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had yeah um do you remember the i'm a bridgerton

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girl it was uh something in bear um they had

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they're like music producers but they created

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like a whole like the i burn for you song and

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oh that was like the the two girls and then they

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won like a little was it a grammy and then they

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got sued did they get sued yeah Oh, wow. I have

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no idea. All I know is that two girls wrote the

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song for Moana. I didn't know any backstory.

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No, they wrote the whole Moana 2 soundtrack.

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Yep. Misogyny. There was like two good standout

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songs in Moana 2. I haven't seen it. I'm afraid.

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It's good. The original plan for the... For Moana

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2, it was originally going to be a Disney Plus

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show. And you can tell that they literally just

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blended the episodes together. You can tell where

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they would cut episodes. And then they probably

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just added songs after the matter of figuring

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out that they would turn it into a movie. That's

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horrific. But it's not terrible. I mean, the

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animation is really good. I don't know how to

00:24:04.609 --> 00:24:09.650
pronounce it, Auli, the actress who sings for

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and plays Moana. She's lovely still. I mean,

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it's not as good as the first because the first

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one is just so good. Did you watch the end credits?

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Yeah, I did. So there's either going to, I didn't

00:24:24.230 --> 00:24:27.309
know, but it was going to be a show. But if that's

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true. What I heard is that there was going to

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be a third movie, but maybe... They kind of set

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it up for it. Maybe now that I've heard that,

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it might be a show. I feel like now that they

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have different cultures coming in with that...

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They could definitely do a bunch of spinoff series

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of Moana World. For sure. 100%. I need to get

00:24:49.089 --> 00:24:52.109
back into it. Ask my younger cousins. There's

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Moana lore. I know. Explain it to me. There's

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a lot. I saw some people shipping... Moana with

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Maui? No. And I was like, no. So scary. He's

00:25:04.349 --> 00:25:08.309
like 3 ,000 years old. The age gap. She's like

00:25:08.309 --> 00:25:12.250
16. I'm like, she's not even, okay, it doesn't

00:25:12.250 --> 00:25:15.150
even matter. She's independent. The point of

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the movie. I know she's a queen. If anything,

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No, she's not. She remembered the first movie.

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She's like, I'm not a princess. If anything,

00:25:22.490 --> 00:25:26.890
like, there's that new guy. What was it? What

00:25:26.890 --> 00:25:28.849
was that new guy's name? In Moana 2? Yeah. Oh

00:25:28.849 --> 00:25:31.490
my gosh, spoilers. Stop. Well, there's like four

00:25:31.490 --> 00:25:35.789
other main characters. There's a new character

00:25:35.789 --> 00:25:38.710
who people are now shipping her with. It's the

00:25:38.710 --> 00:25:41.210
map maker, but he's introduced within the first

00:25:41.210 --> 00:25:43.630
like five minutes. Oh, no, no, no, no. There's

00:25:43.630 --> 00:25:47.390
a female that they ship Moana with. Which one?

00:25:48.890 --> 00:25:51.930
She's the one who like make the boat. Oh, really?

00:25:52.269 --> 00:25:56.099
Yeah. That makes sense. Uh -huh. Okay. No, that

00:25:56.099 --> 00:25:59.579
would make sense. Oh, I see that. I see that

00:25:59.579 --> 00:26:03.880
now on the internet. Uh -huh. Yeah. I could talk

00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.059
about Moana, too, for the next 50 minutes. Or

00:26:07.059 --> 00:26:09.859
Moana in general. And that is real, okay? I get

00:26:09.859 --> 00:26:15.200
that. I will talk about movies. We, like, obviously,

00:26:15.500 --> 00:26:18.240
like, our podcast isn't, like, the most popular

00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:20.099
for sure. Like, I think we're happy to get at

00:26:20.099 --> 00:26:24.619
least 24 listeners. I just looked at our statistics

00:26:24.619 --> 00:26:27.220
the other day. We have some listeners from Spain.

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Really? Yeah. I have no idea how it reached Spain,

00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:35.299
but it did. And then we have some from Mexico,

00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:39.400
but that was a while ago. So I'm sure it was

00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:40.900
just people sharing with their family, which

00:26:40.900 --> 00:26:44.200
is really cool. I don't know how much you guys

00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:46.019
know about the podcast, but we have a different

00:26:46.019 --> 00:26:48.220
segment called Student Stories where we have

00:26:48.220 --> 00:26:51.160
a different host. Her name is Jen, and she interviews

00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.259
students from all over the campus. And we've

00:26:53.259 --> 00:26:56.359
already interviewed four. And the first one we

00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:58.339
just did. Have you guys heard of Stance Beats

00:26:58.339 --> 00:27:01.359
on campus? Yeah, we interviewed him. He's really

00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:05.259
cool. I love that. We interviewed a student parent,

00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:08.480
an international student. I mean, it's just it's

00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:10.180
getting people's stories out there. So it's a

00:27:10.180 --> 00:27:11.960
lot of fun. And so I'm sure that's probably where.

00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:16.960
It'll it'll help getting the podcast more out

00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:18.720
there. And, you know, people just especially

00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.299
if they're the ones on the podcast, they're the

00:27:20.299 --> 00:27:22.359
ones sharing it with their families. So, yeah,

00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:24.420
pretty cool. So if you guys have any interesting

00:27:24.420 --> 00:27:27.599
student stories or aren't a traditional student,

00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:30.799
like feel free to like reach back out and like

00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.480
we'll get you on the student stories as well.

00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:35.660
And you can share your own personal story. Yeah.

00:27:38.109 --> 00:27:40.509
Oh my gosh, yes, you really should talk to Soraya.

00:27:40.630 --> 00:27:44.069
We actually, she's on our Model UN team, but

00:27:44.069 --> 00:27:48.059
she just, she has an amazing story. about you

00:27:48.059 --> 00:27:50.259
know coming over here from afghanistan after

00:27:50.259 --> 00:27:53.519
you know the current conflict um but we've been

00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:55.279
working a lot about her you know just about like

00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.400
women's issues and stuff like that so it would

00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:59.920
be a perfect theme i like i always try to get

00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:01.839
her to talk more at like our events and whatnot

00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:05.019
because her story is so information let's do

00:28:05.019 --> 00:28:07.839
it yeah i got you send her our email literally

00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.730
like we want people's stories so But, yeah, I

00:28:11.730 --> 00:28:15.089
mean, just throwing us back into, like, the word

00:28:15.089 --> 00:28:19.009
nerds, did any of you by chance besides me, I

00:28:19.009 --> 00:28:22.390
know Zach, did you guys attend Comic -Con? Oh,

00:28:22.410 --> 00:28:24.450
my gosh, I didn't. But you know what? I usually

00:28:24.450 --> 00:28:26.690
do. And I usually am, like, big into cosplay

00:28:26.690 --> 00:28:30.190
and stuff. Oh, really? I swear. I'm really lazy

00:28:30.190 --> 00:28:32.109
when it comes to it. So just characters that

00:28:32.109 --> 00:28:36.210
look like me. That's so real. Yeah, I just get

00:28:36.210 --> 00:28:38.690
a little bit lazy about it. But it's just something

00:28:38.690 --> 00:28:40.670
that I love to do, like, in middle school. It

00:28:40.670 --> 00:28:43.789
was just, like, so fun. Unfortunately, like,

00:28:43.829 --> 00:28:46.089
there's some weirdos there. And I just, like,

00:28:46.089 --> 00:28:48.049
didn't have the time to go this past weekend.

00:28:48.230 --> 00:28:51.640
So I was kind of sad about that. yeah um i went

00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:55.339
uh i had an exhibitor pass i was with the um

00:28:55.339 --> 00:28:59.619
elite comics so i was with the little comic book

00:28:59.619 --> 00:29:03.869
stand um i only went on friday though Unfortunately,

00:29:03.890 --> 00:29:07.910
it worked Saturday and Sunday, but Friday was

00:29:07.910 --> 00:29:11.190
like busy, like busy for a Friday. Saturday was

00:29:11.190 --> 00:29:14.890
so busy. I know. I saw photos. Everyone was like

00:29:14.890 --> 00:29:18.849
packed. It was terrible. I'm so glad I went on

00:29:18.849 --> 00:29:23.589
the day I did. Yeah. I feel like if I am ever

00:29:23.589 --> 00:29:25.630
going to go. Well, when I'm going to go because

00:29:25.630 --> 00:29:26.890
I'm probably going to go again. I want to go

00:29:26.890 --> 00:29:29.170
on the Friday because that's just when more people

00:29:29.170 --> 00:29:32.509
are going to be working because like everybody's

00:29:32.509 --> 00:29:35.650
off on Saturday usually. And it's just it was

00:29:35.650 --> 00:29:41.410
so crowded. Yeah, it makes sense. But. No, you

00:29:41.410 --> 00:29:44.769
had also mentioned how you're a huge Marvel Rivals

00:29:44.769 --> 00:29:47.430
player. Yes, I am. We've talked about this on

00:29:47.430 --> 00:29:49.809
the podcast. Really? We've talked about it so

00:29:49.809 --> 00:29:54.950
many times. We're huge gamers. Same. She's a

00:29:54.950 --> 00:29:59.329
Sims player. I do play Sims, but I'm a PC player,

00:29:59.569 --> 00:30:04.529
and I, in addition to that, have had a PS4 for

00:30:04.529 --> 00:30:08.250
a couple months, and I've barely been able to

00:30:08.250 --> 00:30:10.299
use it because I don't know how to. Switch from

00:30:10.299 --> 00:30:14.420
laptop, or not laptop, PC, laptop, and then to

00:30:14.420 --> 00:30:17.700
a controller. I grew up with a controller. So

00:30:17.700 --> 00:30:20.019
it was a weird, it was a different experience

00:30:20.019 --> 00:30:22.579
when I switched over to PC. Isn't it better?

00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:26.460
It was probably easier than switching from computer

00:30:26.460 --> 00:30:28.680
to controller. Because, I mean, the keyboard

00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:31.759
is so just perfect for gaming. Because there's

00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:35.559
just, I mean, there's 40 keys on the keyboard.

00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.170
And then there's like. 10 on the controller so

00:30:38.170 --> 00:30:40.190
i mean you can just do so much more on a keyboard

00:30:40.190 --> 00:30:45.549
um but i mean like like holding a controller

00:30:45.549 --> 00:30:48.650
is just it's it's definitely different for for

00:30:48.650 --> 00:30:51.049
PC players who've never, like, really done it.

00:30:51.049 --> 00:30:53.009
Zach and I just tried to play with a controller.

00:30:53.250 --> 00:30:55.910
Yeah, I saw that claw grip over there. I know

00:30:55.910 --> 00:30:58.309
my claw. Except I don't claw. That's the thing.

00:30:58.369 --> 00:31:00.430
You don't? I don't, usually. Unless I'm, like,

00:31:00.430 --> 00:31:02.430
playing, like, Elden Ring. That's why you're

00:31:02.430 --> 00:31:04.329
lower ranked than me on Marvel Rivals. Well,

00:31:04.369 --> 00:31:07.670
I don't play it on my console. No, I'm just joking.

00:31:07.670 --> 00:31:09.529
No, you're good. I'm plat 2, so I'm not that

00:31:09.529 --> 00:31:12.390
far behind. And those are the worst ranks. Oh,

00:31:12.490 --> 00:31:15.190
they're terrible. I hate it. I think I'm going

00:31:15.190 --> 00:31:17.880
to be hard plat for a while. I'm hard Diamond

00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.019
right now. Can't switch out of it. Is there anything

00:31:20.019 --> 00:31:22.000
higher than Diamond? I'm not a Marvel Brothers

00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.180
fan. Yeah, it goes Diamond, Celestial, something

00:31:26.180 --> 00:31:28.420
else. Or maybe it's Diamond, something else,

00:31:28.460 --> 00:31:30.460
Celestial, and then the one above all. Yeah.

00:31:30.980 --> 00:31:33.599
Dang. The one above all is like the top 500 players.

00:31:34.140 --> 00:31:37.799
Really? Yeah. Wow, okay. Well, I didn't know

00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.059
I was sitting in a room with a bunch of gamer

00:31:40.059 --> 00:31:45.440
nerds. Yeah, you did. What do you play on? Like

00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:53.000
PC? Well, I have Marvel Rivals on my PS5, but

00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.660
me and my husband, what's so amazing about having

00:31:55.660 --> 00:31:59.240
a partner in life who has the same hobbies? Is

00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:03.200
that we have every single console. Yeah. We have

00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.700
a gaming room. We have, like, all the screens.

00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.099
Oh, that's my dream. Yeah, we have, like, the

00:32:08.099 --> 00:32:11.039
mini fridge, all the posters and the knickknacks

00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:13.539
you could imagine, beanbag chairs, gaming chairs,

00:32:13.819 --> 00:32:17.519
every single console and two of them so we can

00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:19.980
play together. But we haven't made the switch

00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:23.380
over to PC. Mm -hmm. Just because it's... I honestly,

00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:25.279
because I have nails and I can't play it on PC.

00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.680
No, that's fair. That is fair. It's also just

00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:30.779
kind of an expensive Switch too, especially if

00:32:30.779 --> 00:32:33.460
you want to get like a really good PC that can

00:32:33.460 --> 00:32:37.059
run like a lot of games. Because, I mean, Marvel

00:32:37.059 --> 00:32:40.299
Rivals takes a lot. I'm not going to lie. It

00:32:40.299 --> 00:32:45.980
is a hefty game when it comes to graphics. Yeah,

00:32:46.140 --> 00:32:48.579
I mean, I was having this conversation before,

00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:52.529
but... I was kind of debating on which one is

00:32:52.529 --> 00:32:55.829
actually more expensive because with PlayStation

00:32:55.829 --> 00:32:59.549
and Xbox, you have to pay to play with your friends.

00:33:00.170 --> 00:33:02.470
Yes, it is a subscription. It's not so wicked

00:33:02.470 --> 00:33:05.250
and evil. Yeah, hopefully they change it. I know

00:33:05.250 --> 00:33:07.349
they've been doing that for like 20 years now,

00:33:07.410 --> 00:33:09.630
but hopefully they change it. Xbox is changing

00:33:09.630 --> 00:33:12.269
it. for real are they they still have game pass

00:33:12.269 --> 00:33:15.630
though uh they might but they have a like are

00:33:15.630 --> 00:33:17.809
they getting rid of xbox live they're getting

00:33:17.809 --> 00:33:22.950
a like pc xbox combo oh yeah i think that's like

00:33:22.950 --> 00:33:24.829
the next console they're trying to do right and

00:33:24.829 --> 00:33:27.349
it's you can like play with your friends yeah

00:33:27.349 --> 00:33:31.289
but if that happens as a lifelong playstation

00:33:31.289 --> 00:33:35.180
nerd They're done. I think. I will say, though,

00:33:35.259 --> 00:33:37.839
like, I feel like PlayStation's just so. I prefer

00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:39.259
the controller in PlayStation. I'm not going

00:33:39.259 --> 00:33:41.140
to lie. Well, I made the switch from Xbox to

00:33:41.140 --> 00:33:42.420
PlayStation, but I just feel like the graphics

00:33:42.420 --> 00:33:44.059
are so much better. That's why I feel like PlayStation,

00:33:44.140 --> 00:33:47.180
like, charges, like, such ridiculous kind of

00:33:47.180 --> 00:33:50.359
prices because they're, like, so ahead on, like,

00:33:50.380 --> 00:33:53.000
PC -level graphics and storage. Their controllers

00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:57.259
are, like, $70. That is ridiculous. What? Yeah,

00:33:57.299 --> 00:33:58.940
thankfully I haven't broken any of mine yet.

00:33:59.180 --> 00:34:02.859
Yeah. Yeah, no, that's, I know. I'm just, I'm

00:34:02.859 --> 00:34:04.339
still stuck on, like, the monthly subscription

00:34:04.339 --> 00:34:06.440
to what, it could be, like, anywhere from, what,

00:34:06.500 --> 00:34:12.000
like, $10 to $25 or $30 a month? I think PlayStation

00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.119
Plus, they have different, like, versions of

00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.340
it, so, but I think, like, the standard one is

00:34:18.340 --> 00:34:22.579
just, it's probably, yeah, like, $10 to $15 a

00:34:22.579 --> 00:34:26.250
month, but. You actually reminded me. I need

00:34:26.250 --> 00:34:28.530
to cancel mine because I never go on my PlayStation

00:34:28.530 --> 00:34:30.489
anymore. I'm so glad. Because I buy the year

00:34:30.489 --> 00:34:34.510
-long one, which is like $100 -something, which

00:34:34.510 --> 00:34:37.889
is technically a better price if you play on

00:34:37.889 --> 00:34:41.409
it every day, which I used to before I got my

00:34:41.409 --> 00:34:46.980
PC. So yeah, spending like... $300, $400 for

00:34:46.980 --> 00:34:50.380
the actual console itself, and then $100 a year.

00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:52.360
Plus all the games, plus all the controllers,

00:34:52.780 --> 00:34:55.920
plus all the cosmetics that you need to buy.

00:34:56.099 --> 00:35:00.480
I think a PC is probably worth it. In the long

00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.860
run, if you play video games that much, I would

00:35:02.860 --> 00:35:07.519
probably suggest a PC. But yeah, it's an investment.

00:35:07.699 --> 00:35:10.960
It's a bigger investment at the start. But it

00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.880
will pay off eventually. Okay, okay, okay. We've

00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:18.619
talked too much about PCs and all this fun, nerdy

00:35:18.619 --> 00:35:20.619
stuff. I mean, we can still continue with the

00:35:20.619 --> 00:35:23.980
nerdy stuff, but like... One more thing, because

00:35:23.980 --> 00:35:26.000
I want to say it on the podcast, because I know

00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.539
it makes you so jealous that I met David Tennant.

00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.260
Oh, yeah. And that I got to hug him, and it was

00:35:32.260 --> 00:35:34.940
amazing. I got to see him in person. Yeah, but

00:35:34.940 --> 00:35:38.320
I got to hug him. You know what? I might have

00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.940
a one -up on the nerd stuff. I got to meet and

00:35:40.940 --> 00:35:45.199
hug Stanley. Oh, yeah, you would. At Comic -Con.

00:35:46.019 --> 00:35:48.860
Yes. Kansas City Comic -Con. Oh, my God. What

00:35:48.860 --> 00:35:52.820
year? Oh, I was in middle school. Oh, okay. It

00:35:52.820 --> 00:35:55.340
was my sixth grade year of middle school, so

00:35:55.340 --> 00:35:59.619
a while ago. Do you have a photo? I do not because

00:35:59.619 --> 00:36:04.619
I went with my dad, who is such an old man. Oh,

00:36:04.860 --> 00:36:08.269
that's unfortunate. That's bizarre. No, that's

00:36:08.269 --> 00:36:10.570
a good... Yeah, I would have loved to meet Stanley.

00:36:10.829 --> 00:36:13.449
He's such a nice, sweet old man. That's such

00:36:13.449 --> 00:36:15.530
a great... You see that little Stanley documentary

00:36:15.530 --> 00:36:18.269
that's coming out about how he was treated poorly?

00:36:19.030 --> 00:36:22.210
Yeah, in his old years? In that controversy?

00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:25.090
I cannot believe it. And honestly, it made me

00:36:25.090 --> 00:36:29.070
feel so bad because I feel like you could kind

00:36:29.070 --> 00:36:30.889
of... I just thought that he was like an old

00:36:30.889 --> 00:36:34.369
man. Yeah. But like... at comic -con like when

00:36:34.369 --> 00:36:36.429
we went there's obviously such a long line to

00:36:36.429 --> 00:36:38.909
go see him and he did he did kind of seem like

00:36:38.909 --> 00:36:41.949
you know like a little tired um and i just like

00:36:41.949 --> 00:36:44.210
can't imagine being in your retirement age and

00:36:44.210 --> 00:36:47.889
like having to sit in this line all day yeah

00:36:47.889 --> 00:36:50.309
so that's what it kind of made me think of i'm

00:36:50.309 --> 00:36:53.530
kind of excited to that they're touching on it

00:36:53.530 --> 00:36:56.269
i think uh some of the people that used to work

00:36:56.269 --> 00:36:59.050
for stanley or like i guess boss him around i

00:36:59.050 --> 00:37:01.280
think they're being sued for elder abuse I would

00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.599
hope so. And, like, more things as well, not

00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.340
just that. Like, I think it's also something

00:37:06.340 --> 00:37:10.599
called, like, control of environment or some

00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:14.920
– I couldn't tell you. I only read a brief article

00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.760
about what the, like, documentary is going to

00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:21.420
be about. But, yeah, it's really sad. But, honestly,

00:37:21.579 --> 00:37:23.639
I am very jealous about you meeting Stan Lee.

00:37:24.250 --> 00:37:28.989
As you should be. I just came here to Brad. I

00:37:28.989 --> 00:37:31.909
had to out -nerd everybody in the room. I think

00:37:31.909 --> 00:37:37.190
you did. Thank you. But other than Comic -Con

00:37:37.190 --> 00:37:41.389
that I guess only Zach and I went to, what else

00:37:41.389 --> 00:37:43.989
did we all do for spring break? I mean, I worked,

00:37:43.989 --> 00:37:46.809
but that's nothing fun to talk about. So real.

00:37:48.030 --> 00:37:51.389
I had... finished the new 100 games book that

00:37:51.389 --> 00:37:53.869
came out and i was very excited about that as

00:37:53.869 --> 00:37:56.389
soon as that came like what day did it come out

00:37:56.389 --> 00:38:00.570
i think the 18th yeah like a week ago or something

00:38:00.570 --> 00:38:03.650
like that because it is the 26th of recording

00:38:03.650 --> 00:38:06.530
um so like a week ago or something a few days

00:38:06.530 --> 00:38:10.190
um as soon as everybody finished the book all

00:38:10.190 --> 00:38:12.309
of my for you page is just about hunger games

00:38:12.309 --> 00:38:16.110
like oh my god it's devastating really it was

00:38:16.110 --> 00:38:18.429
like an emotional roller coaster i think it's

00:38:18.429 --> 00:38:21.780
like her like, most devastating book yet. I've

00:38:21.780 --> 00:38:26.440
heard it. It is, from what I've heard, it touches

00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.119
on a lot more difficult subjects than any of

00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:31.500
the previous books, so. Yeah, like, there's a

00:38:31.500 --> 00:38:34.079
big, like, conversation going around where she,

00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.780
like, uses the word rape. And even just like

00:38:36.780 --> 00:38:38.909
that, people were like. It's always been implied

00:38:38.909 --> 00:38:42.269
in the books. But, like, for, she definitely

00:38:42.269 --> 00:38:44.409
kind of just, like, I think she understands now

00:38:44.409 --> 00:38:46.469
that her audience is a little bit older. So it's,

00:38:46.489 --> 00:38:49.670
like, definitely, like, so much more gory and,

00:38:49.690 --> 00:38:53.469
like, graphic and, like, horrific without getting

00:38:53.469 --> 00:38:56.610
into spoilers. But I did, like, love it as someone

00:38:56.610 --> 00:38:59.690
who loved the Hunger Games books. Did you also,

00:38:59.769 --> 00:39:01.530
like, I hate to be that person, be like, did

00:39:01.530 --> 00:39:03.349
you also hear about this? Did you hear that they're

00:39:03.349 --> 00:39:07.030
also possibly remaking the Hunger Games? I did,

00:39:07.030 --> 00:39:09.329
like, hear a conversation about, I think, like,

00:39:09.429 --> 00:39:11.489
making it a TV show or something. Just like they

00:39:11.489 --> 00:39:13.929
were doing with, like, Harry Potter, right? I

00:39:13.929 --> 00:39:16.070
did hear that, yeah. They're remaking Harry Potter

00:39:16.070 --> 00:39:18.489
and, like, recasting everyone and then even,

00:39:18.570 --> 00:39:23.170
what is it, Tom Fiddleston? Fiddleston? Fiddleston.

00:39:24.710 --> 00:39:28.329
Fiddleston? Tom Fiddleston. He plays Draco Malfoy.

00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:33.000
Thank you for the reassuring nod. No, but why

00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:36.380
are they remaking Harry Potter? So they're making

00:39:36.380 --> 00:39:40.260
it a TV show because apparently J .K. Rowling

00:39:40.260 --> 00:39:44.079
wrote the books and was never happy about them.

00:39:44.219 --> 00:39:47.300
But also, I have thoughts about J .K. Rowling.

00:39:47.500 --> 00:39:54.119
As does everybody. And just apparently the movies

00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.219
weren't portrayed of how she really wanted the

00:39:56.219 --> 00:40:00.920
book to be. And so instead of... like just her

00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.800
tweeting out everything else um they're just

00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:07.639
remaking it into a show and then um the original

00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:11.099
draco malfoy tom he is going to be playing what

00:40:11.099 --> 00:40:16.619
snape or uh whoever plays draco malfoy's father

00:40:16.619 --> 00:40:21.920
or um yeah i have no idea i just i hope like

00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.679
it's gonna be a terrible tv show if it's anything

00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:29.400
like how she wants it to be Yeah, probably. But,

00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.579
I mean, what were you saying? Oh, I was just,

00:40:31.659 --> 00:40:34.139
like, those, like, the Indian twin girls, like,

00:40:34.179 --> 00:40:36.219
Padma and Parvati, I hope they, like, remake

00:40:36.219 --> 00:40:38.059
their outfits for the YOLO because that was,

00:40:38.139 --> 00:40:40.780
like, horrendous. Yes. Like, it was, like, I

00:40:40.780 --> 00:40:43.079
was, like, oh, so excited. I was, like, oh, there's,

00:40:43.099 --> 00:40:45.400
like, people. Like, there's representation in

00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.380
Harry Potter. And what was, like, the Asian character's

00:40:47.380 --> 00:40:49.860
name? I was just thinking about that, but I didn't

00:40:49.860 --> 00:40:53.500
want to say my Asian girl, but I do know exactly

00:40:53.500 --> 00:40:55.139
who you're talking about, and I feel like...

00:40:55.889 --> 00:41:00.710
Her name is Cho Chang. Yeah. That's like her

00:41:00.710 --> 00:41:03.550
name. That's pretty bad. Isn't she British though?

00:41:03.630 --> 00:41:06.750
J .K. Rowling? Yeah. So maybe that's where the

00:41:06.750 --> 00:41:08.530
disconnect was. There are Asian people in England.

00:41:09.630 --> 00:41:13.090
There's a lot of people. I don't know. I know.

00:41:13.650 --> 00:41:16.190
I know that they get a little bit crazy. Is J

00:41:16.190 --> 00:41:18.550
.K. Rowling not American? No, she's British.

00:41:18.969 --> 00:41:21.170
Oh, wow. I honestly didn't know. I've never heard

00:41:21.170 --> 00:41:23.190
her speak. Yeah, I don't think I have either.

00:41:24.539 --> 00:41:26.679
I mean, I would just assume that she's British

00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:30.539
considering all of Harry Potter is British. Yeah,

00:41:30.539 --> 00:41:33.639
like that station is in like London. Yeah. I

00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:36.119
honestly just assumed that nobody in America

00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.099
would pick it up. And so she pitched it to a

00:41:38.099 --> 00:41:41.539
bunch of like BBC News or whatever. Honestly,

00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.800
I don't think I realized until like a few years

00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.699
ago that they were all British. I was like, oh,

00:41:47.699 --> 00:41:50.099
they're just guys. I love that. No, I don't think

00:41:50.099 --> 00:41:52.280
they speak English. What is going on? They just

00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.679
have a funny accent. Ronan is like, oh, bloody

00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:58.199
hell. I know. I was always like, why is he saying

00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:02.199
that? We don't say that here. No, but yeah, no,

00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:04.880
they're possibly making a new Hunger Games series

00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:09.780
as well. But it'll like because people are enjoying

00:42:09.780 --> 00:42:12.500
the new movies that are coming out, especially

00:42:12.500 --> 00:42:15.380
with that. What's that one girl's name? Rachel

00:42:15.380 --> 00:42:20.860
Ziegler. Yes. Yeah. That movie, I don't know

00:42:20.860 --> 00:42:23.679
if it was as popular as the original Hunger Games,

00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:29.579
but they wanted to remake it and just start from

00:42:29.579 --> 00:42:32.579
beginning to end. But there are a lot more books

00:42:32.579 --> 00:42:35.659
coming out about the past. I was going to say,

00:42:35.659 --> 00:42:37.900
are they going to go in chronological order with

00:42:37.900 --> 00:42:40.780
this new show or are they going to go in release

00:42:40.780 --> 00:42:43.800
order? What I've heard is that it's going to

00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.980
be a show and there's going to be a lot of flashbacks.

00:42:49.689 --> 00:42:53.130
So, like, it's going to follow a singular timeline,

00:42:53.389 --> 00:42:55.170
but if they talk about something, there's going

00:42:55.170 --> 00:42:58.389
to be, like, the next episode is, like, all flashback.

00:42:58.929 --> 00:43:03.570
So, One Piece. Okay, yeah, pretty much. I'll

00:43:03.570 --> 00:43:05.550
always bring it back to One Piece. I was just

00:43:05.550 --> 00:43:07.210
thinking, I was like, they should pull Star Wars.

00:43:07.309 --> 00:43:08.590
You know how, like, Star Wars is, like, four,

00:43:08.590 --> 00:43:10.250
five, six, and then they did one, two, three.

00:43:10.309 --> 00:43:12.070
I was like, they should pull one of those. Probably.

00:43:12.570 --> 00:43:14.289
Well, they kind of are with the movies, aren't

00:43:14.289 --> 00:43:16.550
they? Yeah. A little bit. A little bit. I just

00:43:16.550 --> 00:43:19.190
feel like. it would be like makes more sense

00:43:19.190 --> 00:43:21.869
i don't know yeah wasn't the most recent book

00:43:21.869 --> 00:43:27.610
about hamish's trial or yes so good um i sobbed

00:43:27.610 --> 00:43:30.190
i mean i'm not gonna speak about it because i

00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:33.030
i mean i haven't like read the book i don't usually

00:43:33.030 --> 00:43:35.030
plan on reading books because i'm already so

00:43:35.030 --> 00:43:38.750
behind on my book list right now but i know that

00:43:38.750 --> 00:43:42.849
yeah like i i buy so many books and then i like

00:43:42.849 --> 00:43:44.550
just look at them collecting dust on my shelf

00:43:44.550 --> 00:43:47.059
because i'm stuck on two books at the same time

00:43:47.059 --> 00:43:52.940
um yeah but it's the fact that they're bringing

00:43:52.940 --> 00:43:57.039
like names of characters now or like not now

00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.420
but of like the first original hunger games uh

00:44:00.420 --> 00:44:04.099
movie book or what like whatever you people the

00:44:04.099 --> 00:44:07.179
first original hunger games yeah they now that

00:44:07.179 --> 00:44:11.699
there's haymitch um so there will likely be what

00:44:11.699 --> 00:44:14.980
like one more You know what, honestly, like my

00:44:14.980 --> 00:44:17.119
opinion, I feel like after reading this book,

00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:21.219
it touches on the other books like so well and

00:44:21.219 --> 00:44:25.519
kind of closes all the loose ends. Yeah, it like

00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:28.559
ties it all together so perfectly. Every character

00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:31.519
that you could possibly imagine in the other

00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:34.659
books has like their backstory all fleshed out.

00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.400
Like everything's just like so touched on so

00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:40.420
beautifully that I'm like, and also the epilogue

00:44:40.420 --> 00:44:43.260
was so amazing that I just feel like this is,

00:44:43.630 --> 00:44:46.570
her last book um for like the hundred games i

00:44:46.570 --> 00:44:49.030
think this is probably like it just felt like

00:44:49.030 --> 00:44:52.230
a really like goodbye and it felt like one of

00:44:52.230 --> 00:44:56.809
her like i i want to say it's my favorite one

00:44:56.809 --> 00:44:59.369
of the hundred games really yeah like i think

00:44:59.369 --> 00:45:02.809
it was like just so you know well written and

00:45:02.809 --> 00:45:05.530
i feel like she definitely had a purpose uh and

00:45:05.530 --> 00:45:09.010
i think that we're done with the 100 Games universe

00:45:09.010 --> 00:45:12.489
after this one. Yeah, well, I haven't read the

00:45:12.489 --> 00:45:14.670
Hunger Games since like middle or high school.

00:45:15.590 --> 00:45:19.329
So as like me, like I'm trying to like pick up

00:45:19.329 --> 00:45:21.869
the books again. Obviously I have a list, but

00:45:21.869 --> 00:45:24.769
like what order do you recommend reading these

00:45:24.769 --> 00:45:27.889
in? I've, somebody, I've never read the books

00:45:27.889 --> 00:45:31.250
either, but going back to the TikTok thing, I

00:45:31.250 --> 00:45:34.130
got so many videos that were telling me to. read

00:45:34.130 --> 00:45:36.429
them in release order. Like you need to, to get

00:45:36.429 --> 00:45:39.210
the full story, not chronological, not chronological.

00:45:39.510 --> 00:45:41.690
Is that something you agree with? I actually

00:45:41.690 --> 00:45:44.449
read them in chronological because I was a movie

00:45:44.449 --> 00:45:46.869
fan and then I heard about this release coming

00:45:46.869 --> 00:45:48.730
out. So in the last month, actually, I read all

00:45:48.730 --> 00:45:53.409
the books. Um, and I think having the movie knowledge

00:45:53.409 --> 00:45:56.829
in there, like kind of helped, but I will say

00:45:56.829 --> 00:46:00.650
now with Haymitch's book out, I would read it

00:46:00.650 --> 00:46:04.929
in released order. Like, because, but I don't

00:46:04.929 --> 00:46:08.269
think for Songbirds and Snakes, the other movie

00:46:08.269 --> 00:46:10.230
with Rachel Zegler that came out, like, for that

00:46:10.230 --> 00:46:11.829
book, I really don't think it matters where you

00:46:11.829 --> 00:46:13.809
read it. If you want to read it in chronological

00:46:13.809 --> 00:46:16.329
first, if you want to read it at the end, I don't

00:46:16.329 --> 00:46:17.610
think it matters. I just think, like, what matters

00:46:17.610 --> 00:46:20.329
is, like, Haymitch's story. You have to end with.

00:46:20.570 --> 00:46:22.610
Yeah, you have to end with it because it's just

00:46:22.610 --> 00:46:28.449
so perfect. Like, the epilogue is perfect. His,

00:46:28.449 --> 00:46:31.090
what I really loved about this, no spoilers,

00:46:31.289 --> 00:46:36.510
but his story was kind of the beginning of the

00:46:36.510 --> 00:46:39.250
rebellion as a whole. So we kind of get, you

00:46:39.250 --> 00:46:41.570
know, the beginning of Panem and President Snow

00:46:41.570 --> 00:46:44.650
with Sunbirds and Snakes and his, on the book

00:46:44.650 --> 00:46:47.190
cover actually, it's a Flintstriker. Oh, okay.

00:46:47.409 --> 00:46:49.670
Which is, like, I loved it. I'm getting so nerdy

00:46:49.670 --> 00:46:52.070
about it because he, like, started the flame

00:46:52.070 --> 00:46:55.610
of the rebellion and the girl on fire. And it

00:46:55.610 --> 00:46:58.110
was just, like, such a perfect ending to the

00:46:58.110 --> 00:47:00.250
series. That's why it's, like, maybe I'm delusional,

00:47:00.250 --> 00:47:01.750
but I just really hope that she doesn't release

00:47:01.750 --> 00:47:03.210
any more of it because I just felt like it was

00:47:03.210 --> 00:47:05.739
such a perfect ending. oh sorry go ahead that's

00:47:05.739 --> 00:47:08.219
just so like powerful to end it like that with

00:47:08.219 --> 00:47:11.539
like the start of the rebellion yes i don't know

00:47:11.539 --> 00:47:14.099
she's been yapping to me about it like i've i've

00:47:14.099 --> 00:47:16.679
heard it i don't it's like almost i don't need

00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:18.400
to but i'm definitely picking them up like she

00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:21.480
convinced me she did the whole marketing thing

00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.619
so well and it's just so good they're so good

00:47:24.619 --> 00:47:26.199
and we were talking about this too today we were

00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:29.400
like the political messaging in it is so sanitized

00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.900
in the movies so we felt like i don't know if

00:47:31.900 --> 00:47:34.119
they're gonna remake it i feel like If they're

00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:35.539
going to remake it, they have to do it, correct?

00:47:35.659 --> 00:47:39.260
Yeah. They have to, like, go all out. Yes, we

00:47:39.260 --> 00:47:40.420
were talking about this, and it's like, this

00:47:40.420 --> 00:47:43.460
book is so gory and, like, so disturbing and,

00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:47.239
like, just horrific. Like, jaw open. Cannot believe

00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:48.480
that she wrote some of the things that she wrote.

00:47:48.780 --> 00:47:50.059
And I was talking to her about it, and it's just

00:47:50.059 --> 00:47:51.860
like, in the movies, they don't really do, like,

00:47:51.860 --> 00:47:55.199
gore. No, yeah. They kind of, like, give you,

00:47:55.219 --> 00:47:57.980
like, an outline. They beat around the bush.

00:47:58.420 --> 00:48:01.300
Yeah, like, even Rue's death was so pretty. Yeah.

00:48:01.340 --> 00:48:05.380
You know what I mean? Like, she... I feel like

00:48:05.380 --> 00:48:08.579
it's not spoilers. It's been out. But she was

00:48:08.579 --> 00:48:11.059
impaled. It was this horrific thing. You don't

00:48:11.059 --> 00:48:14.519
even see blood. Yeah. And it's not like, have

00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.820
you seen The Last of Us? I have, yeah. Again,

00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:21.659
hopefully not spoilers. It's been out long enough.

00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:25.519
The Last of Us has been out. The TV show? Or

00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:27.840
just in general. In general. They've both been

00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:29.780
out for five seasons or two. I will spoiler alert

00:48:29.780 --> 00:48:31.579
if you guys are playing the game. Skip ahead

00:48:31.579 --> 00:48:34.420
five minutes. If you're behind 10 years. Yeah.

00:48:35.380 --> 00:48:39.340
But Ellie's death, I just remember I saw that

00:48:39.340 --> 00:48:43.320
mortified because it just kind of shows the childhood

00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:48.460
innocence and her screaming for her dad. And

00:48:48.460 --> 00:48:51.119
it's just being gory. She was just shot, too,

00:48:51.219 --> 00:48:54.119
and there's still more blood. Wrong character,

00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:57.519
by the way. Oh, my gosh. I don't remember her

00:48:57.519 --> 00:48:59.219
name, but it was Joel's actual daughter. Yes,

00:48:59.219 --> 00:49:01.000
yes. Oh, I'm so sorry. And you know what's so

00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:02.519
funny is that I wanted to correct myself and

00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:04.420
say Clementine, but that's a completely different

00:49:04.420 --> 00:49:07.039
zombie. Yeah, that's The Walking Dead. Completely

00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:10.239
different zombie movie. With a C, though. It

00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:12.119
might be, like, Claire or something. I have no

00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:14.880
idea. I mean, she lived for, like, 10 minutes

00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.699
in the game, so, like... And not me calling her

00:49:17.699 --> 00:49:19.840
Ellie. I know. Like, Ellie, we see. I was like,

00:49:19.900 --> 00:49:22.800
Ellie's dead? No, no, no. Maybe in the third

00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.019
game. It's okay. Like, I understood what you

00:49:25.019 --> 00:49:26.920
were talking about immediately. I did. I was

00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:28.300
just like... Because I was like, Sarah is her

00:49:28.300 --> 00:49:29.739
name. Sarah, that's what it was, yeah. That's

00:49:29.739 --> 00:49:32.719
nowhere near what... Shut up. But, like, the

00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:34.619
sound was in there. But, yeah, I just, like...

00:49:35.179 --> 00:49:37.000
That's how like what kind of draws my mind is

00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.139
like the political message is like war so bad

00:49:39.139 --> 00:49:41.179
and evil and like these are children. And I'm

00:49:41.179 --> 00:49:44.380
like, I want it to like kind of be like gorier.

00:49:44.539 --> 00:49:49.380
Yeah. Instead of like the entertaining. yeah

00:49:49.380 --> 00:49:53.420
we were talking about this but i just felt like

00:49:53.420 --> 00:49:57.539
okay so i grew up on like hindi cinema i don't

00:49:57.539 --> 00:49:59.480
know that much about american pop culture like

00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:02.699
i live here i'm a really american but like when

00:50:02.699 --> 00:50:04.980
it comes to like anything before i was born like

00:50:04.980 --> 00:50:08.559
before 90s i know nothing I literally know nothing.

00:50:08.659 --> 00:50:11.320
Like, it's embarrassing. And it's just, like,

00:50:11.420 --> 00:50:14.320
the thing that is so, like, famous about Western

00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:17.119
cinema is that it's bold. Like, especially Hollywood.

00:50:17.500 --> 00:50:20.480
Hollywood has always been the, like, industry

00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:23.119
that does not shy away from things. That doesn't,

00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:24.840
like, you know, they have everything. It's in

00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:27.159
your face. The point is, like, shock value. Especially

00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.000
in, like, things that are horror movies. I feel

00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:31.360
like, you know, we were talking about it's very,

00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:33.599
like, symbolic of the culture as well to be able

00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:36.570
to sanitize these messages as well. especially

00:50:36.570 --> 00:50:38.469
because this is like a mass piece of massive

00:50:38.469 --> 00:50:40.429
media this like however it's just like massively

00:50:40.429 --> 00:50:43.769
popular um i think it's like a very much a testament

00:50:43.769 --> 00:50:45.789
to like the culture of today as well and it's

00:50:45.789 --> 00:50:47.880
just like like come on guys this is what you're

00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:50.960
known for like don't be like shy about it it's

00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:52.539
like if you're gonna do it do it well because

00:50:52.539 --> 00:50:53.920
the point of it like she was saying like these

00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.099
are children that are dying in war and i think

00:50:57.099 --> 00:50:59.659
it's like it's to send a message yes and the

00:50:59.659 --> 00:51:01.460
point of the hunger games too i think it came

00:51:01.460 --> 00:51:03.659
up too as well as like uh with the recent election

00:51:03.659 --> 00:51:06.559
as well a lot of dialogue was going on about

00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:08.960
like these dystopian novels that a lot of americans

00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:10.900
have grown up with and i think it's just like

00:51:11.659 --> 00:51:14.239
This is really, I think these kind of pop culture

00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:16.019
things, like Americans, I do feel like there's

00:51:16.019 --> 00:51:18.960
a obsession with like post -apocalyptic dystopian

00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:21.099
media. And I think it's also because we've been

00:51:21.099 --> 00:51:25.179
so detached specifically from like me drawing

00:51:25.179 --> 00:51:29.059
in some politics. We're so detached to conflict

00:51:29.059 --> 00:51:31.119
and like, especially in like recent generations,

00:51:31.179 --> 00:51:34.039
we've not seen like the horrors that the rest

00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:35.800
of the world does face. And I think it's like

00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:37.760
when you're sanitizing that, I feel like it's

00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.630
a more of like. like you're no yeah you're like

00:51:40.630 --> 00:51:43.530
protecting everybody's like eyes from like what

00:51:43.530 --> 00:51:46.429
reality is like kind of gory reality is dark

00:51:46.429 --> 00:51:49.269
yeah and i do think like i don't know like things

00:51:49.269 --> 00:51:51.730
like the boys too i really the gore of it to

00:51:51.730 --> 00:51:54.409
me and like the shock value the satire the humor

00:51:54.409 --> 00:51:56.809
i think was done very well love the boys yeah

00:51:56.809 --> 00:51:59.090
i love the boys half the first season it was

00:51:59.090 --> 00:52:01.130
really good from what i saw and it's just like

00:52:01.130 --> 00:52:03.389
it's not serious but it's also social commentary

00:52:03.389 --> 00:52:04.889
in a way i think that's what it needs to be it's

00:52:04.889 --> 00:52:07.389
pretty political too yes exactly i think in the

00:52:07.389 --> 00:52:09.309
second season it gets more political correct

00:52:09.309 --> 00:52:11.829
me if i'm wrong 100 but it's like it's still

00:52:11.829 --> 00:52:13.690
like a dystopia right it's still something that's

00:52:13.690 --> 00:52:15.889
like fictional it's still something that you're

00:52:15.889 --> 00:52:18.010
taking like a different world and you're making

00:52:18.010 --> 00:52:20.690
it realistic but i think it's like it's almost

00:52:20.690 --> 00:52:23.869
like it's dark humor in the sense yeah 100 and

00:52:23.869 --> 00:52:27.269
i feel like that's what these like i don't know

00:52:27.269 --> 00:52:28.690
i don't think the hunger games is dark humor

00:52:28.690 --> 00:52:30.949
so i'm saying it's like that gore aspect of it

00:52:30.949 --> 00:52:32.710
that narissa was talking about like these are

00:52:32.710 --> 00:52:35.730
children like they have these like insanely ridden

00:52:35.730 --> 00:52:38.369
death scenes that are like terrible and the point

00:52:38.369 --> 00:52:40.050
of it is that it's supposed to evoke emotion

00:52:40.050 --> 00:52:42.150
so when like cinematography is trying to make

00:52:42.150 --> 00:52:44.210
it beautiful and aesthetic and i feel like the

00:52:44.210 --> 00:52:46.389
movement is to make things more aesthetic it's

00:52:46.389 --> 00:52:48.949
also censored now yes exactly the emotional value

00:52:48.949 --> 00:52:51.460
goes away yeah They always joke about it. They're

00:52:51.460 --> 00:52:53.599
like, oh, the movies are the capital version

00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:56.119
of the 100 games. Yeah. It's like, that's so

00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.820
true. And with that, I will say, my quick rant,

00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:02.039
the love triangle was important to the plot.

00:53:02.340 --> 00:53:04.420
Which one? That's my hot take. Peter and Gail.

00:53:04.500 --> 00:53:07.199
Oh, yeah. People were always like, oh, you're

00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.039
missing the point of the bush. It's so much deeper

00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:10.860
than that, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, no,

00:53:10.980 --> 00:53:14.039
the point was the love triangle. And here's my

00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:18.010
quick rant about it. We talk about this all the

00:53:18.010 --> 00:53:20.070
time with Model United Nations, but in conflict,

00:53:20.309 --> 00:53:23.570
it's like clearly Gail and Katniss and Peeta

00:53:23.570 --> 00:53:25.889
were all just so traumatized by the conflict

00:53:25.889 --> 00:53:29.110
that was happening in Panem. I'm pretty sure

00:53:29.110 --> 00:53:32.309
Gail's dad had also died in the coal mines. That

00:53:32.309 --> 00:53:34.050
was a big plot point. And they believed that

00:53:34.050 --> 00:53:36.309
the government had killed them. So it's like

00:53:36.309 --> 00:53:38.090
they have been dealing with this authoritarian

00:53:38.090 --> 00:53:42.719
force. And people always... They always call

00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.699
Gale like, you know, he did kill Prim. Unfortunately,

00:53:45.940 --> 00:53:49.059
spoilers if anyone didn't know. And they always

00:53:49.059 --> 00:53:51.159
like joke about how terrible he is. And I'm like,

00:53:51.219 --> 00:53:53.500
but that's like the point of his character is

00:53:53.500 --> 00:53:56.860
that he resorted to revenge and violence and

00:53:56.860 --> 00:53:59.440
fighting back. And he kind of saw it as like

00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:02.079
equal opportunity. And that was like the whole

00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:04.980
point of his character. I was like, it's so important

00:54:04.980 --> 00:54:08.489
that Katniss chose Peeta. And, like, that's why

00:54:08.489 --> 00:54:09.889
the love triangle was important. Because it was,

00:54:09.909 --> 00:54:13.469
like, symbolic of her choosing peace with the

00:54:13.469 --> 00:54:15.909
rebellion. And, like, not siding with, what's

00:54:15.909 --> 00:54:19.889
her face? Not. Coin? I think that's her name.

00:54:20.030 --> 00:54:22.690
Yeah. But that's just my rant. Because everyone

00:54:22.690 --> 00:54:24.349
talks about it online. And I'm like, you're wrong.

00:54:25.050 --> 00:54:28.829
You're wrong. No. Gail was such a, like, harsh

00:54:28.829 --> 00:54:33.309
individual compared to Peeta. Like, he was very

00:54:33.309 --> 00:54:37.739
demanding of what. Sorry to listeners, we're

00:54:37.739 --> 00:54:44.300
ranting about Hunger Games, but suck it up. Gale

00:54:44.300 --> 00:54:48.119
was so conflicting with Katniss about how he

00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:51.659
wanted their relationship to be, which it doesn't

00:54:51.659 --> 00:54:55.079
look like it from the movies. But if you have

00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.280
read the books, which I'm just going off what

00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.599
I've remembered so far. pita was so calm and

00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:05.559
patient with her even after he had been physically

00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:11.360
abused and um put into a like comatose situation

00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:15.699
where he or that's not not like inappropriate

00:55:15.699 --> 00:55:18.260
word but like i know what you mean like he's

00:55:18.260 --> 00:55:20.199
like brainwashed yeah brainwash is the word i'm

00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:22.980
thinking of um he was brainwashed to think that

00:55:22.980 --> 00:55:26.340
katniss was such an evil person and even after

00:55:26.340 --> 00:55:29.679
that like his patience with her and then his

00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:34.860
patience with himself he relearned to like love

00:55:34.860 --> 00:55:39.139
her again and like he like understood like what

00:55:39.139 --> 00:55:42.239
she needed even after being taught that she was

00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:46.139
such a horrible person and just that regaining

00:55:46.139 --> 00:55:48.980
of patience with her and him like they both balanced

00:55:48.980 --> 00:55:52.480
each other out where like where he needed Katniss

00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:57.199
like she was there and versus Gail needed Katniss

00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:00.320
or like Katniss needed Gail like there was no

00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:03.360
like mutual respect going there like he was over

00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:07.380
overstepping boundaries and yeah I think people

00:56:07.380 --> 00:56:09.739
always say they're like it was never a love triangle

00:56:09.739 --> 00:56:12.139
like it was always Peeta and I'm like 1000 %

00:56:12.139 --> 00:56:14.199
it was all she was always supposed to end up

00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:15.639
with Peeta but I'm like the love triangle is

00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:17.139
so important because like Katniss kind of dealt

00:56:17.139 --> 00:56:20.320
with it especially I think in the third book

00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:22.920
where you know people started bringing it up

00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:24.460
to her and it was definitely the author's way

00:56:24.460 --> 00:56:26.199
of being like everyone's wanting to know about

00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:29.900
this love triangle um and so like people at the

00:56:29.900 --> 00:56:32.480
like sanctuary start bringing it up to her she's

00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:33.869
like so annoyed about it because she's never

00:56:33.869 --> 00:56:36.530
even thought of it in that way and I'm like it

00:56:36.530 --> 00:56:38.769
was just so important because like she that was

00:56:38.769 --> 00:56:41.909
her choosing piece in her life for Prim she was

00:56:41.909 --> 00:56:43.730
like this is what Prim would have wanted like

00:56:43.730 --> 00:56:45.969
you know they just had so much trauma so it's

00:56:45.969 --> 00:56:48.869
like I don't think Gail is a bad person like

00:56:48.869 --> 00:56:51.710
people people hate Gail and I'm like I'm here

00:56:51.710 --> 00:56:54.269
to speak up for Gail I'm like he he was doing

00:56:54.269 --> 00:56:57.400
the best as like a 17 year old In that situation.

00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:58.900
Yeah, people forget how young they are, too.

00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:00.880
Yeah, because the other actors don't portray

00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:03.539
them. Yeah, exactly. They're literally children.

00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:07.559
Have you guys seen the... I don't know if it's,

00:57:07.579 --> 00:57:09.059
like, one specific video, but I'm sure there's

00:57:09.059 --> 00:57:13.039
a couple of them. But, like, they show the Hunger

00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.119
Games actors, so, like, Jennifer Lawrence and...

00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:20.679
What's his name? Peeta. Josh Hutcherson? Yeah.

00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.360
They show, like, them in the movie and then them

00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:27.739
at the actual age of their characters. It's terrifying,

00:57:28.059 --> 00:57:30.380
like, thinking about literal children being in

00:57:30.380 --> 00:57:32.380
that situation. Yeah, that's why I thought it

00:57:32.380 --> 00:57:34.820
was, like, it was just so important. You know,

00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:36.639
like, if the message that you want to get across

00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:39.280
is, like, war is bad and, you know, children

00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:42.179
are in armed conflict, then, like, make them

00:57:42.179 --> 00:57:45.960
children. I think that's, like, a huge part of,

00:57:46.139 --> 00:57:47.679
I mean, I was going to mention it earlier, but.

00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:50.800
Like when you were originally talking about it,

00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:56.420
you as well. But a lot of the movies that we

00:57:56.420 --> 00:57:59.639
watch nowadays, all or I'm not going to say a

00:57:59.639 --> 00:58:03.019
lot, all movies besides like rom -coms or like

00:58:03.019 --> 00:58:06.500
something funny, all movies are political. Like

00:58:06.500 --> 00:58:09.239
every single movie you can like put into a political

00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:14.840
situation or all like. sci -fi like dystopian

00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:17.880
fantasy all of those movies start with a political

00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:20.659
conflict that are later brought up resolved or

00:58:20.659 --> 00:58:27.460
like demolished and it's so i want to say it's

00:58:27.460 --> 00:58:31.900
just like i mean it's censored to the fact that

00:58:31.900 --> 00:58:35.039
like what it's actually trying to portray um

00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:40.239
like a lot of like gore and whatever but i feel

00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:42.949
like most movies do that now because they don't

00:58:42.949 --> 00:58:45.809
want that political situation to be brought up

00:58:45.809 --> 00:58:49.190
with what current realities are it's controversial

00:58:49.190 --> 00:58:52.309
exactly it's like it causes dissent it causes

00:58:52.309 --> 00:58:55.800
like thing it causes like people to have certain

00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:58.000
feelings about things it causes to you like that's

00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:01.000
what media does like art art itself right inherently

00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:04.179
it's supposed to evoke emotion like people create

00:59:04.179 --> 00:59:08.159
things in dark times to express to the world

00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.179
how they are feeling and i feel like when you

00:59:10.179 --> 00:59:12.539
are censoring that it's really like i feel like

00:59:12.539 --> 00:59:14.019
that's when you know like things are kind of

00:59:14.019 --> 00:59:17.280
like i mean yeah you're censoring the artist's

00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.980
work at that point and it's like i think when

00:59:20.980 --> 00:59:23.699
we have times where like art is being like not

00:59:23.699 --> 00:59:27.079
a lot of art is being censored yes art is being

00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:30.480
censored with cultural shifts as well it's like

00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:32.960
what we talk about now like what is prioritized

00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:35.900
in media and social media like what trends are

00:59:35.900 --> 00:59:38.300
out there i think it's like it's very signifying

00:59:38.300 --> 00:59:43.239
of like a move backwards in my opinion 1000 and

00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:45.159
we wanted to talk about that actually like in

00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:48.199
our first episode is like an introduction to

00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:50.440
like why feminism is important i feel like people

00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:52.079
are starting the word feminism but like just

00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:54.940
time that like you know like people like if i

00:59:54.940 --> 00:59:57.039
say i'm a feminist it's like oh i'm radical and

00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:00.320
i'm crazy oh yeah the like stigmatism but yeah

01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:02.159
and it's like i feel like people don't understand

01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:04.260
what that word means because you know that controversy

01:00:04.260 --> 01:00:06.519
but also it's like you kind of said it earlier

01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:09.440
like everything is political. And people think

01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:11.019
I'm so crazy when I say that, but it's like,

01:00:11.139 --> 01:00:14.079
it's true. We are three women with microphones

01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:15.900
in front of our face. Like that's political.

01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.440
I'm wearing pants right now. That's political.

01:00:19.260 --> 01:00:21.679
You know what I mean? Like, it's just, so that's

01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:24.800
what's like, why again, like I think. Just, like,

01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:26.940
tied it back in, I guess, is, like, girl talk

01:00:26.940 --> 01:00:30.019
is so important because it's, like, these concepts

01:00:30.019 --> 01:00:34.179
are, you know, truly in everything. And it's

01:00:34.179 --> 01:00:37.420
so important to be able to have that, like, political

01:00:37.420 --> 01:00:39.559
literacy of, like, understanding the meaning

01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:43.719
behind media, like, the importance of it. Like,

01:00:43.820 --> 01:00:46.340
I saw the other day on TikTok people were arguing

01:00:46.340 --> 01:00:49.159
about the 100 games. And there were some more,

01:00:49.179 --> 01:00:52.059
like, conservative people who were mad at Rachel

01:00:52.059 --> 01:00:57.260
Zegler. for being pro -palestine and i just remember

01:00:57.260 --> 01:00:59.400
thinking i was like you're fans of the hunter

01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:03.059
games but you're not like caught up to like war

01:01:03.059 --> 01:01:06.099
right now yeah like but you know what i mean

01:01:06.099 --> 01:01:08.260
i'm just like very like do you understand what's

01:01:08.260 --> 01:01:10.340
going on in the current situation you don't know

01:01:10.340 --> 01:01:12.059
what's happening in gaza like and that's the

01:01:12.059 --> 01:01:14.159
thing like the sanitation out of it because like

01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:18.039
i think part of what made a lot of young people

01:01:18.730 --> 01:01:21.690
you know switch up their views on israel is like

01:01:21.690 --> 01:01:26.530
because social media forces us to see what's

01:01:26.530 --> 01:01:28.929
going on i think there were many journalists

01:01:28.929 --> 01:01:31.489
that were very brave and did an amazing job at

01:01:31.489 --> 01:01:33.590
covering what was the day -to -day violence that

01:01:33.590 --> 01:01:36.369
was happening and i think this is the first time

01:01:36.369 --> 01:01:39.150
in a long time a lot of us had to grapple with

01:01:39.150 --> 01:01:41.329
the fact when it's right in front of your face

01:01:41.329 --> 01:01:44.030
you know like right in front of your face you're

01:01:44.030 --> 01:01:45.989
seeing suffering that has to impact you in some

01:01:45.989 --> 01:01:47.670
way it doesn't matter what you think about the

01:01:47.670 --> 01:01:50.170
conflict or not it like emotionally you know

01:01:50.170 --> 01:01:52.610
it does something to see that and i think it's

01:01:52.610 --> 01:01:54.579
like what i think these are the realities right

01:01:54.579 --> 01:01:57.039
and it's like it was for the first time this

01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:00.019
was not a distant thing right I think a lot of

01:02:00.019 --> 01:02:01.980
American perception about the rest of the world

01:02:01.980 --> 01:02:04.559
is that we live in a bubble that is just I think

01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.219
that's so true we do live in a bubble as Americans

01:02:07.219 --> 01:02:09.039
and I think this was the first time where it

01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:11.340
was everything was in our face we're like okay

01:02:11.340 --> 01:02:13.000
this is our impact on the world this is what

01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.000
people think of us this is what people live like

01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.219
on a day -to -day basis and i think it was very

01:02:17.219 --> 01:02:19.199
powerful especially too with like the tiktok

01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:21.199
ban and people going to red note and seeing how

01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:23.260
like chinese people are living i just feel like

01:02:23.260 --> 01:02:25.980
little silly things that our generation does

01:02:25.980 --> 01:02:28.599
like that with social media i think are so imperative

01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:32.199
and important like and i think our current media

01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:34.780
is not able to reflect that that in a way that's

01:02:34.780 --> 01:02:36.079
sufficient and i think that's why we turn to

01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:39.869
social media no i think we're like i have recently

01:02:39.869 --> 01:02:44.449
lost contact with someone who had never thought

01:02:44.449 --> 01:02:46.969
america was political and that they don't have

01:02:46.969 --> 01:02:50.289
to care about politics and i'm like if you are

01:02:50.289 --> 01:02:53.710
living in america the world is political like

01:02:53.710 --> 01:02:59.000
america is politics there is In my opinion, we

01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:02.400
are the most political, like you have to be up

01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:04.760
to date with politics. You have to know what

01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:08.380
is like constantly like being put into bills,

01:03:08.460 --> 01:03:10.760
signing, like what is being demolished. Like

01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:14.420
you have to know things. And we're learning things

01:03:14.420 --> 01:03:19.099
in, I have a mass media society class. It's very

01:03:19.099 --> 01:03:24.380
much focusing on what is like socially condemned

01:03:24.380 --> 01:03:28.440
right now and like what. people are like me just

01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:33.579
media literacy in general and it's okay this

01:03:33.579 --> 01:03:37.079
is gonna sound like biased but i swear it's not

01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:42.800
um most if not all of the content in that class

01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:48.400
is like if i were to sit down there and like

01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:52.800
not know anything it's more like liberal liberal

01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:56.119
based i'm using air quotes now but like it's

01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.860
all like against propaganda spreading false news

01:03:58.860 --> 01:04:02.119
and one of the things that we are often like

01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:06.599
being shown as like examples is like this was

01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:09.019
false news in this presidency like it's a lot

01:04:09.019 --> 01:04:12.380
of politics all righty guys um we did take a

01:04:12.380 --> 01:04:16.699
moment to get some tea hot cocoa uh and water

01:04:16.699 --> 01:04:20.420
but you know we're back we're um just like wrapping

01:04:20.420 --> 01:04:23.199
up the end of this segment but uh we just wanted

01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:27.250
to I don't know, continue. We had such fun spring

01:04:27.250 --> 01:04:32.570
breaks. Obviously, you heard the conversations

01:04:32.570 --> 01:04:36.150
that we had. We dove deep into the Hunger Games

01:04:36.150 --> 01:04:42.769
lore, and we're trying to find ways to wrap this

01:04:42.769 --> 01:04:46.550
up, but at least half of the semester is over.

01:04:46.849 --> 01:04:51.150
We all pretty much graduate at the end of the

01:04:51.150 --> 01:04:54.090
year. Technically not, but technically. When

01:04:54.090 --> 01:04:57.510
you finish out the semester. Yeah. I'm not graduating

01:04:57.510 --> 01:04:59.789
yet. I still have like one class that I have

01:04:59.789 --> 01:05:01.230
to take, but I really don't want to take it.

01:05:01.329 --> 01:05:05.369
Same. College algebra? Oh my, yeah, same. I really

01:05:05.369 --> 01:05:09.389
don't want to do it. I did college algebra and

01:05:09.389 --> 01:05:12.449
with liberal arts, you have to go from college

01:05:12.449 --> 01:05:16.329
algebra to finite math. So you have to take multiple

01:05:16.329 --> 01:05:19.210
maths to get to the one. So you're lucky if,

01:05:19.250 --> 01:05:21.510
like, college algebra is, like, your final, like,

01:05:21.550 --> 01:05:24.409
destination. Because I sucked at algebra. But

01:05:24.409 --> 01:05:27.590
you have to take stats. you're just a stats yeah

01:05:27.590 --> 01:05:30.489
i'm i'm nursing so i have to do like science

01:05:30.489 --> 01:05:33.510
that's why politics is my hobby because i don't

01:05:33.510 --> 01:05:36.710
have time well yeah i mean it's easy to pick

01:05:36.710 --> 01:05:39.130
up politics as a hobby when we have internet

01:05:39.130 --> 01:05:42.130
now and nursing is so political like everything

01:05:42.130 --> 01:05:44.630
else like we talked about is nursing really political

01:05:44.630 --> 01:05:47.230
oh 100 we're literally taking care of people

01:05:47.230 --> 01:05:49.570
oh well yeah for sure you're in the health care

01:05:49.570 --> 01:05:51.550
system which is broken and then like we could

01:05:51.550 --> 01:05:54.760
go on and on about it yeah medical dap And I

01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:57.280
want to be, like, a labor and delivery and neonatal

01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.679
ICU nurse, which, so. Yeah. I'm dealing with

01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:03.019
women's health issues all the time. Oh, yeah.

01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:05.440
I guess I didn't really, like, connect with that

01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:08.260
when you said it's political. I honestly thought,

01:06:08.380 --> 01:06:13.900
like, just, like, everything. Yeah. I mean, we

01:06:13.900 --> 01:06:15.960
advocate for our patients. So, like, that's political.

01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:19.099
That is true. Yeah. No, I'm just, like, blindsided

01:06:19.099 --> 01:06:22.570
about how everything can. genuinely be so political

01:06:22.570 --> 01:06:25.170
and honestly having you guys on here is like

01:06:25.170 --> 01:06:27.829
genuinely eye -opening because not only did we

01:06:27.829 --> 01:06:30.570
have conversations on podcast like recorded but

01:06:30.570 --> 01:06:33.230
we also had off -topic conversations like and

01:06:33.230 --> 01:06:35.530
like some of the things that we say might get

01:06:35.530 --> 01:06:37.710
cut and some of the things that we have said

01:06:37.710 --> 01:06:43.110
are like off mic and like yeah like dang nursing

01:06:43.110 --> 01:06:46.460
is political Like, I mean, like, obviously, like,

01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:48.199
healthcare and all that, but, like, when I think

01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:50.139
of healthcare, I think of, like, the people and

01:06:50.139 --> 01:06:52.619
not, like, the actual nurses and doctors. But,

01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:56.599
like, I, I mean, I understand that now. And,

01:06:56.699 --> 01:07:00.059
I mean. I think that's, like, again, like, why

01:07:00.059 --> 01:07:02.920
I just want to, like, I think that's, like, the

01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:04.940
essence of, like, Girl Talk and, like, what we

01:07:04.940 --> 01:07:08.139
want to do is I just feel like people. um like

01:07:08.139 --> 01:07:09.599
I think they brought it up earlier but sometimes

01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:11.599
like people think feminist such a radical word

01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:13.900
or like the conversation I do all the time is

01:07:13.900 --> 01:07:17.900
like why do we need feminism what rights do you

01:07:17.900 --> 01:07:20.820
have uh do you not have that I currently have

01:07:20.820 --> 01:07:22.739
it's always like a man asking it or like people

01:07:22.739 --> 01:07:26.380
say that online a lot um and it's like even just

01:07:26.380 --> 01:07:28.639
what you said there's this book that I love and

01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:32.940
it's called Invisible Women um by Caroline Perez

01:07:32.940 --> 01:07:37.530
I believe amazing author and it's not a super

01:07:37.530 --> 01:07:42.130
biased book at all um like the way that she writes

01:07:42.130 --> 01:07:45.190
is very much just throwing all these horrific

01:07:45.190 --> 01:07:48.710
statistics out there in the world and it's about

01:07:48.710 --> 01:07:51.170
how the world's like designed for men so it's

01:07:51.170 --> 01:07:52.130
like those little things that you would never

01:07:52.130 --> 01:07:54.329
think about that's still very much like affect

01:07:54.329 --> 01:07:57.829
western society like um like only four percent

01:07:57.829 --> 01:08:02.250
of cardiovascular research is done on women even

01:08:02.250 --> 01:08:05.130
though women face like more deadly like side

01:08:05.130 --> 01:08:09.469
effects and outcome um so usually you know women

01:08:09.469 --> 01:08:12.550
are misdiagnosed or poorly treated like that's

01:08:12.550 --> 01:08:14.889
why we have on our instagram we kind of talk

01:08:14.889 --> 01:08:17.350
about the women's health gap and so basically

01:08:17.350 --> 01:08:20.449
it's like the research gap like it's so interesting

01:08:20.449 --> 01:08:23.430
um i'm pretty sure you know unfortunately black

01:08:23.430 --> 01:08:26.869
women have a higher rate of uh maternal mortality

01:08:26.869 --> 01:08:30.710
yeah when it comes to treatment you know giving

01:08:30.710 --> 01:08:33.850
birth and pregnancy care because um their bodies

01:08:33.850 --> 01:08:36.029
just aren't a part of any research and they've

01:08:36.029 --> 01:08:38.250
never been so they've just been neglected so

01:08:38.250 --> 01:08:40.310
it's it's interesting like how those little things

01:08:40.310 --> 01:08:44.449
um can like really you know just like impact

01:08:44.449 --> 01:08:46.029
in a good way so we kind of want to like shine

01:08:46.029 --> 01:08:49.189
a little bit light on that you know something

01:08:49.189 --> 01:08:52.100
i always bring up is like car designs I think

01:08:52.100 --> 01:08:54.520
most women can relate when you get into the car.

01:08:54.699 --> 01:08:56.239
Like usually women are like a little bit below

01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:59.359
the steering wheel. It's actually like that would

01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:02.020
immediately kill you on impact. Your steering

01:09:02.020 --> 01:09:04.039
wheel is supposed to be like in line with the

01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:06.899
center of your chest. So that way, you know,

01:09:06.899 --> 01:09:09.119
when the airbag comes out and everything, you

01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:12.939
can probably handle it. And so cars are designed

01:09:12.939 --> 01:09:17.449
for 511 dummies. Those are the crash dummies

01:09:17.449 --> 01:09:20.090
that they use. It's 511 men. And they only use

01:09:20.090 --> 01:09:22.130
men for the driver's seats. They have never,

01:09:22.289 --> 01:09:24.930
like, there has been no companies in recent years

01:09:24.930 --> 01:09:26.869
that have used women. And the only time that

01:09:26.869 --> 01:09:29.310
they use women test dummies is in the passenger

01:09:29.310 --> 01:09:33.310
seat. Wow. So it's just like. You know, because

01:09:33.310 --> 01:09:35.090
of that, obviously, you know, women and head

01:09:35.090 --> 01:09:37.590
on collisions are more likely to suffer more

01:09:37.590 --> 01:09:40.329
serious impacts. It's just like, you know, little

01:09:40.329 --> 01:09:42.390
things like that. It's you would never think

01:09:42.390 --> 01:09:47.550
of that. The iPhone women make up. She talks

01:09:47.550 --> 01:09:48.829
about this book as well. And I don't remember

01:09:48.829 --> 01:09:51.090
the exact statistics, but women make up a majority

01:09:51.090 --> 01:09:54.250
of iPhone consumers. And the phones are often

01:09:54.250 --> 01:09:57.850
like too big for our hands. So it's just like

01:09:57.850 --> 01:10:00.079
little things like that. It's like. You don't

01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:02.699
think about it that affect your daily life. Like

01:10:02.699 --> 01:10:04.600
when she was talking about heart attacks, like

01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:06.880
this is one of my passions, especially in healthcare

01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:09.380
and research, something I research about specifically

01:10:09.380 --> 01:10:12.020
on disparities in healthcare. I've written about

01:10:12.020 --> 01:10:16.229
it a lot, but it's... What they study in medical

01:10:16.229 --> 01:10:20.489
school, all we know about physiology, when we

01:10:20.489 --> 01:10:22.109
take these classes, I'm taking human physiology

01:10:22.109 --> 01:10:25.609
right now, it's based off of how the white male

01:10:25.609 --> 01:10:28.850
body works. And I think there's been a recent

01:10:28.850 --> 01:10:30.930
movement with epigenetics, and especially with

01:10:30.930 --> 01:10:33.090
the way the world is going, understanding that

01:10:33.090 --> 01:10:37.140
everybody's bodies function differently. when

01:10:37.140 --> 01:10:38.420
she was bringing up heart attacks specifically,

01:10:38.659 --> 01:10:41.579
like, the reason why the heart attacks are more

01:10:41.579 --> 01:10:43.760
prevalent in women is because the symptoms are

01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:46.880
completely different in men and women. And so

01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:49.140
what we think of when doctors are trained to

01:10:49.140 --> 01:10:51.399
look for these diseases, they're trained to look

01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:54.140
for them in a specific type of body, which is

01:10:54.140 --> 01:10:56.640
why so many things go misdiagnosed, is why you

01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:58.560
see those disparities. Same thing with, like,

01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:02.000
maternal mortality for Black women. It's a lot

01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:04.819
of two, like, it also creates the environment

01:11:04.819 --> 01:11:08.560
for systemic racism. where people like it's assumption

01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:10.739
that black women do not feel pain or women of

01:11:10.739 --> 01:11:13.159
color have a different tolerance for pain so

01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.439
when they are in active labor they're not taken

01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:18.659
seriously which just leads to that maternal mortality

01:11:18.659 --> 01:11:21.300
which it's like these little things you know

01:11:21.300 --> 01:11:24.359
the way you drive the way that cities are planned

01:11:24.359 --> 01:11:28.840
they were not built with women in mind and i

01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:32.100
think it steers that conversation and like okay

01:11:32.100 --> 01:11:35.180
why feminism about rights like think about it

01:11:35.180 --> 01:11:38.060
like I think as women we are so grappled day

01:11:38.060 --> 01:11:41.659
to day with like how walking home alone at night

01:11:41.659 --> 01:11:43.359
like we have these little things that we do when

01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:44.779
you get into your car what do you do you lock

01:11:44.779 --> 01:11:46.960
the door you check the back seat that's another

01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:48.979
really great point i was in it there's like another

01:11:48.979 --> 01:11:50.699
thing in her book that i thought was so interesting

01:11:50.699 --> 01:11:54.800
she goes over city planning um and how inadequate

01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:57.520
public space design is always so you do a design

01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:00.520
for men and it has led in this study i think

01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:03.020
like in london to at least one in five women

01:12:03.020 --> 01:12:06.119
i'm reportedly like experiencing physical and

01:12:06.119 --> 01:12:08.380
sexual assault on public transport just because

01:12:08.380 --> 01:12:10.119
they don't think of a little things of like these

01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:12.859
dark alleys or making sure that they have, you

01:12:12.859 --> 01:12:14.319
know, people in those areas that they report

01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:18.439
to. Women gyms, I remember she mentioned, she

01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:20.600
mentioned like the rise of women gyms because

01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:23.819
regular gyms aren't designed with women's needs

01:12:23.819 --> 01:12:26.380
or their parking lots aren't designed in that

01:12:26.380 --> 01:12:28.819
way. So people who have lived in those communities

01:12:28.819 --> 01:12:30.859
or areas for their entire life, like the women

01:12:30.859 --> 01:12:33.640
were more likely to, you know, suffer from injuries

01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:36.739
or I think like loss of bone density was something

01:12:36.739 --> 01:12:39.760
they had mentioned. So it's like, pilates like

01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:42.000
why is pilates so popular among women it's because

01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.859
also like the way machines work and lifting are

01:12:44.859 --> 01:12:47.000
designed for men as well like a lot of these

01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:48.600
things that we don't think of little day -to

01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.220
-day things and like okay why are these sort

01:12:51.220 --> 01:12:53.239
of things associated with women why are these

01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:56.159
sort of things associated with women and as we

01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:58.319
talked about earlier in this podcast a lot of

01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:02.760
the qualities that are stereotypically archetypically

01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:05.579
politics has been always associated with men

01:13:05.579 --> 01:13:07.880
the political world as well as much as there

01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:09.819
have been very groundbreaking female politicians

01:13:09.819 --> 01:13:11.760
i mean as we've seen in this past election cycle

01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:15.359
like we are not ready as a country for a female

01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:19.199
president and considering most of the world has

01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:20.960
already progressed to that point it's very concerning

01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:24.300
to like you know it does paint a really distinct

01:13:24.300 --> 01:13:27.500
picture on where we are currently in the world

01:13:27.500 --> 01:13:32.970
on like women's rights as well and lost my train

01:13:32.970 --> 01:13:34.930
of thought but it's more of the sense of like

01:13:34.930 --> 01:13:38.569
why do we need to talk about this why do we need

01:13:38.569 --> 01:13:40.590
to talk about women it's because when you think

01:13:40.590 --> 01:13:42.689
about the traits of like what is politics right

01:13:42.689 --> 01:13:45.569
what are these things like philosophy economics

01:13:45.569 --> 01:13:49.050
why like why are they something that's male oriented

01:13:49.050 --> 01:13:51.670
when traits that are political like diplomacy

01:13:51.670 --> 01:13:54.989
talking to people collaboration those are all

01:13:54.989 --> 01:13:57.229
traits that you need in politics those are also

01:13:57.229 --> 01:13:59.930
traits that women do very well in Because, you

01:13:59.930 --> 01:14:02.970
know, the way that we are socialized as women

01:14:02.970 --> 01:14:05.689
and it's like, why aren't these spaces more open

01:14:05.689 --> 01:14:08.529
to women? Yeah, that reminds me, too. I just

01:14:08.529 --> 01:14:10.090
love throwing statistics out there that I have

01:14:10.090 --> 01:14:12.750
in my brain. But for Women's Month, I remember,

01:14:12.850 --> 01:14:14.529
you know, for our model United Nations team,

01:14:14.590 --> 01:14:15.829
I've been shoving it down their throats that

01:14:15.829 --> 01:14:17.850
it's Women's Month. And one of the statistics

01:14:17.850 --> 01:14:20.489
that we showed was that women who are involved

01:14:20.489 --> 01:14:23.970
in diplomacy and specifically peace negotiations

01:14:23.970 --> 01:14:27.909
globally, I believe, I don't have the exact number,

01:14:27.949 --> 01:14:32.279
but like. greatly increase um the longevity of

01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:35.020
peace agreements you know 15 years yeah by 15

01:14:35.020 --> 01:14:39.300
years like it it's just so crazy that these kind

01:14:39.300 --> 01:14:41.819
of roles have been like almost taken away from

01:14:41.819 --> 01:14:45.420
women and also i i completely understand you

01:14:45.420 --> 01:14:47.579
know we live in kansas like i understand the

01:14:47.579 --> 01:14:50.779
idea of like you know i'm not super into politics

01:14:50.779 --> 01:14:55.060
or you know i i don't want to make a podcast

01:14:56.519 --> 01:14:59.399
Like, of course, we have our biases, but I don't

01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:02.439
want the, you know, message to exclude out anybody.

01:15:02.779 --> 01:15:06.399
I want it to more be so an open conversation

01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:10.060
that we can have and just like building up to

01:15:10.060 --> 01:15:12.220
have like the political literacy to have deeper

01:15:12.220 --> 01:15:15.159
conversations and to have disagreements. Because

01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:18.159
I feel like a lot of like identity politics has

01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:21.510
been playing into things in some people. Don't

01:15:21.510 --> 01:15:24.050
even know what party the elephant represents

01:15:24.050 --> 01:15:29.289
or the donkey or what color or who their state

01:15:29.289 --> 01:15:32.109
representatives are or how to vote. I had so

01:15:32.109 --> 01:15:34.949
many friends asking me how to vote, which I don't

01:15:34.949 --> 01:15:36.689
want to make anyone feel stupid for. It's like

01:15:36.689 --> 01:15:41.640
I wish that they had. a platform or a community

01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:45.439
to kind of have that explained to them so they

01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:47.279
can have, you know, those deeper conversations

01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:50.460
and really contribute their thoughts. Exactly.

01:15:50.460 --> 01:15:53.500
Like, I was taking a political science class

01:15:53.500 --> 01:15:57.069
in jccc like it was my intro to political science

01:15:57.069 --> 01:15:59.449
and i felt like i was like i already know a lot

01:15:59.449 --> 01:16:01.750
of it but we did this thing called like comparative

01:16:01.750 --> 01:16:04.350
politics and we needed to compare like what we

01:16:04.350 --> 01:16:06.270
knew about the american government to another

01:16:06.270 --> 01:16:09.609
country and i was researching india and when

01:16:09.609 --> 01:16:11.750
i was trying to find resources that like explain

01:16:11.750 --> 01:16:14.649
the basics of government and how our government

01:16:14.649 --> 01:16:16.409
functions how these like the senate works and

01:16:16.409 --> 01:16:18.569
all that like for them their country they learned

01:16:18.569 --> 01:16:20.710
that when they were like in the fourth grade

01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:24.420
yeah they learned that so early so i straight

01:16:24.420 --> 01:16:26.119
up was watching these videos that they were making

01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:29.300
in like hindi for like tiny children with like

01:16:29.300 --> 01:16:31.560
these funny cute little animations and i was

01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:33.859
like so you're telling me like this class that

01:16:33.859 --> 01:16:35.279
i'm taking like a political science class is

01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:37.199
an elective course that i'm taking in college

01:16:37.199 --> 01:16:40.619
that i pay for these are like knowledge that

01:16:40.619 --> 01:16:43.460
like indian children have at like what like 10

01:16:43.460 --> 01:16:47.210
8 Like, they're learning about, like, how their

01:16:47.210 --> 01:16:49.789
government functions. How do you vote? How do

01:16:49.789 --> 01:16:52.310
political participation work? How does representation,

01:16:52.630 --> 01:16:54.810
proportional representation? These are all things

01:16:54.810 --> 01:16:57.369
that I was researching for this class. And that

01:16:57.369 --> 01:16:59.630
I was, like, I was researching. It was literally,

01:16:59.630 --> 01:17:02.189
like, a website for a school. It was, like, the

01:17:02.189 --> 01:17:05.109
eighth grade textbook. And I was, like, oh, this

01:17:05.109 --> 01:17:09.270
is so bad. Yeah, I always feel like, too, it's,

01:17:09.270 --> 01:17:12.739
like. I think I love disagreement I was a debate

01:17:12.739 --> 01:17:15.079
kid I'm a debate coach actually and it's like

01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:17.659
I love being able to argue with people I love

01:17:17.659 --> 01:17:19.420
being able to debate people and I just feel like

01:17:19.420 --> 01:17:23.239
there's almost for both sides kind of this point

01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:25.279
where neither one of them want to have that discussion

01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:28.260
anymore because it's no longer open um you know

01:17:28.260 --> 01:17:32.189
people on You know, like, just to overgeneralize,

01:17:32.229 --> 01:17:33.909
like, what we see on TikTok social media is,

01:17:33.970 --> 01:17:36.130
you know, people on the far left will almost

01:17:36.130 --> 01:17:38.270
dehumanize, you know, people on the very far

01:17:38.270 --> 01:17:41.289
right. And it's, like, to an extent, you know,

01:17:41.310 --> 01:17:42.689
you have to understand that some of these people

01:17:42.689 --> 01:17:44.789
don't necessarily always know what they're talking

01:17:44.789 --> 01:17:46.829
about. Yeah. And same for the other way around.

01:17:46.909 --> 01:17:48.569
They'll say, like, oh, they're radical, they're

01:17:48.569 --> 01:17:51.189
extremist, they're communist. Or, you know, the

01:17:51.189 --> 01:17:53.850
other side of, like, oh, they're, you know, they're...

01:17:54.170 --> 01:17:56.470
some other extremist groups as well. And it's

01:17:56.470 --> 01:17:58.149
just, you know, at the end of the day, you know,

01:17:58.170 --> 01:18:01.529
most people don't vote. So most people aren't

01:18:01.529 --> 01:18:03.569
taking any political action at all. And they're

01:18:03.569 --> 01:18:06.489
just repeating these ideas back to each other.

01:18:07.270 --> 01:18:10.909
So I would like to be, I think just like the

01:18:10.909 --> 01:18:14.310
podcast and even the Instagram is just being

01:18:14.310 --> 01:18:17.770
able to, you know, open conversation to all sides

01:18:17.770 --> 01:18:23.520
without any of that, like. like mean and harsh

01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:27.220
tone when it comes to it just you know a very

01:18:27.220 --> 01:18:29.640
like welcoming community where you're able to

01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:33.300
learn about the basics um like we said like you

01:18:33.300 --> 01:18:35.079
know when you walk into like a club bathroom

01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:36.800
and it's a bunch of girls and we're all complimenting

01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:39.520
each other even though we never met before it's

01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:41.939
like that's the kind of welcoming space that

01:18:41.939 --> 01:18:44.479
you community yeah yeah that you want because

01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:47.939
why is that excluded from politics like the things

01:18:47.939 --> 01:18:50.239
that nurse is saying i think are so so so important

01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:53.859
it's like we are i think everybody knows we talk

01:18:53.859 --> 01:18:55.859
about this we're so divided like politically

01:18:55.859 --> 01:18:58.239
we are so divided and i think of media plays

01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:00.399
like a huge role in it is that we have the distorted

01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:02.579
image on what the other side looks like it doesn't

01:19:02.579 --> 01:19:04.899
matter where you are like you have this idea

01:19:04.899 --> 01:19:07.899
of what the other side is and very rarely are

01:19:07.899 --> 01:19:10.520
you actually talking to people that believe those

01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:13.119
things and we're also getting fed like information

01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:15.579
like oh these people are like we're throwing

01:19:15.579 --> 01:19:17.710
words around that we don't understand okay i'm

01:19:17.710 --> 01:19:19.010
gonna be for real i didn't understand some of

01:19:19.010 --> 01:19:20.930
them too when i was getting into politics but

01:19:20.930 --> 01:19:23.470
it's like you know nurses saying like oh these

01:19:23.470 --> 01:19:25.430
people are communists these people are like nazis

01:19:25.430 --> 01:19:27.930
like what are these concepts let's break that

01:19:27.930 --> 01:19:30.649
down so that we can understand it's it's all

01:19:30.649 --> 01:19:33.390
about political literacy we want there to be

01:19:33.390 --> 01:19:36.470
an understanding of what these things are and

01:19:36.470 --> 01:19:40.510
why they are important to know about 1000 it's

01:19:40.510 --> 01:19:45.300
like for all the girls yeah yeah but um I mean,

01:19:45.340 --> 01:19:47.539
it's been really like I've already said this.

01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.000
It's truly enlightening that you guys have been

01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.380
on our podcast. And I honestly thank you so much

01:19:53.380 --> 01:19:57.279
for like wanting to be on our podcast. Like when

01:19:57.279 --> 01:19:59.260
I was reaching out, I was like, fingers crossed.

01:19:59.340 --> 01:20:04.180
Like, I hope they say yes. But I guess just towards

01:20:04.180 --> 01:20:07.000
this is now like the end of our podcast episode.

01:20:07.159 --> 01:20:10.020
What might be like the last message you want

01:20:10.020 --> 01:20:15.630
people to say? Like, why? Why should they care?

01:20:17.090 --> 01:20:20.409
Yeah, I mean, my takeaway is just, you know,

01:20:20.430 --> 01:20:22.609
and I know that it's girl talk and I know it's

01:20:22.609 --> 01:20:24.689
centered towards women. Obviously, you want to

01:20:24.689 --> 01:20:27.470
create a community towards women, but also just

01:20:27.470 --> 01:20:30.310
like, you know, men as well. It's just it's nice

01:20:30.310 --> 01:20:32.750
to surround yourself with different forms of

01:20:32.750 --> 01:20:34.689
media, even if you have listened to everything

01:20:34.689 --> 01:20:36.829
on this podcast and, you know, you think that

01:20:36.829 --> 01:20:40.010
we're crazy or you even disagree with us. I welcome

01:20:40.010 --> 01:20:42.729
that with open arms. Please disagree with us.

01:20:44.029 --> 01:20:46.069
disagree with every media that you ever watch.

01:20:46.310 --> 01:20:47.930
And I, you know, I hope that you can almost,

01:20:48.010 --> 01:20:51.409
you know, learn that from any media that we create

01:20:51.409 --> 01:20:54.550
is, you know, like looking into deeper sources,

01:20:54.689 --> 01:20:57.069
being able to have like critical thinking about

01:20:57.069 --> 01:20:59.850
it, political literacy, you know, learning those

01:20:59.850 --> 01:21:04.529
skills and using them and doing, being able to

01:21:04.529 --> 01:21:09.810
apply them just, you know, in the real world

01:21:09.810 --> 01:21:12.350
instead of behind the screen. I just want to

01:21:12.350 --> 01:21:14.779
make sure that, you know, we can. platform a

01:21:14.779 --> 01:21:16.859
community that's you know more open to pushing

01:21:16.859 --> 01:21:19.600
the under generation and just to be more politically

01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:25.960
active yeah well oh yeah I I just think we're

01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:28.720
in a very like time politically and socially

01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:31.000
we're like as I said in the beginning we're more

01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:34.220
disconnected now than ever we're so divided we're

01:21:34.220 --> 01:21:37.100
so on our screens we have different perceptions

01:21:37.100 --> 01:21:39.539
of what people are and what they think and I

01:21:39.539 --> 01:21:42.909
think we know deep down like judging people is

01:21:42.909 --> 01:21:45.869
wrong and stuff and when you have conversations

01:21:45.869 --> 01:21:47.770
that are respectful like if there's one thing

01:21:47.770 --> 01:21:50.590
you can take away is that even like what nurse

01:21:50.590 --> 01:21:52.409
was saying if you think we're whatever we're

01:21:52.409 --> 01:21:54.850
saying is crazy like talk to someone that you

01:21:54.850 --> 01:21:57.770
don't agree with like you don't i understand

01:21:57.770 --> 01:21:59.710
to a certain extent like where it can be harmful

01:21:59.710 --> 01:22:02.729
and where it's difficult but i think if you can

01:22:02.729 --> 01:22:05.350
have a respectful dialogue and or even consume

01:22:05.350 --> 01:22:07.590
a piece of media that you don't agree with you'll

01:22:07.590 --> 01:22:09.750
learn something You learn something from anything

01:22:09.750 --> 01:22:12.430
you pick up. It's so important to just be so

01:22:12.430 --> 01:22:16.670
well -rounded with these things because I just

01:22:16.670 --> 01:22:20.909
think it's like, I don't know, it personifies

01:22:20.909 --> 01:22:22.649
it, right? When you're behind a screen and you're

01:22:22.649 --> 01:22:25.170
thinking a certain way about someone else, it's

01:22:25.170 --> 01:22:28.529
very easy to make them out to be a monster. And

01:22:28.529 --> 01:22:30.689
we have to realize that these are people, not

01:22:30.689 --> 01:22:34.390
monsters, right? Yeah. Like these things that,

01:22:34.430 --> 01:22:36.050
bad things that happen in history, they happen

01:22:36.050 --> 01:22:39.579
because of human beings. Right. Not just monsters,

01:22:39.619 --> 01:22:41.819
not like all these. And I think, you know, a

01:22:41.819 --> 01:22:43.460
lot of the media are consumed really perpetuates

01:22:43.460 --> 01:22:46.000
that idea that it's so foreign when it's not.

01:22:46.060 --> 01:22:48.159
And it's like and you don't understand that until

01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:51.140
you're having these talks with people. So, yeah,

01:22:51.220 --> 01:22:53.340
talk to people in the real world. Step out of

01:22:53.340 --> 01:22:55.720
that echo chamber. Exactly. Touch some grass.

01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:01.300
But honestly, like it's truly been an honor to

01:23:01.300 --> 01:23:03.960
have both of you guys on the podcast. And I like

01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:06.079
Zach and I thank you so much. And obviously,

01:23:06.180 --> 01:23:08.380
Kenzie had to leave, but. She thanks you too.

01:23:09.140 --> 01:23:12.199
But do you guys have like a social media that

01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:14.640
you want to promote right now? Like it could

01:23:14.640 --> 01:23:18.060
be personal or your brand. I'll probably also

01:23:18.060 --> 01:23:23.039
link it in the description. 1000%. So like we've

01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:24.899
said multiple times, we're working on content.

01:23:25.020 --> 01:23:29.079
It's going to be on girltalk .debates. So that's

01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:31.239
going to be on Instagram. And you can find me

01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:33.640
on anything. My name is Narissa. If you look

01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:36.130
up Narissa. You're going to find me because there's

01:23:36.130 --> 01:23:41.170
not many of me. And, you know, if you're interested

01:23:41.170 --> 01:23:43.289
in it, we have so many links to so many good

01:23:43.289 --> 01:23:46.010
sources as well, like in a little link tree that

01:23:46.010 --> 01:23:48.369
hopefully we can link in the description. And

01:23:48.369 --> 01:23:50.829
we are on the Model United Nations team on campus.

01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:54.500
If you love talking about politics as much as

01:23:54.500 --> 01:23:56.619
we do, we would love to have you. We get to compete

01:23:56.619 --> 01:23:59.359
and travel to some really cool places. We're

01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:02.739
going to New York next week. So, wish us luck.

01:24:02.779 --> 01:24:05.880
It's nationals. So exciting. Nice. And it's,

01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:07.640
you know, completely free and paid for and we

01:24:07.640 --> 01:24:09.859
just get to yap the whole time. Yeah. It's so

01:24:09.859 --> 01:24:13.399
fun. Do you have any personal, I mean, she already

01:24:13.399 --> 01:24:15.500
plugged the Girl Docs debate. Do you want to

01:24:15.500 --> 01:24:18.340
put your name out there too? Yeah. So, like I

01:24:18.340 --> 01:24:22.039
said, my name is Shreya. S -H -R -E -Y -A. And

01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:23.800
then you can find me on Instagram, underscore

01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:27.199
Faith. That's my real name, Shreya Faith. So

01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:31.300
that's my Instagram. And yeah, I just want to

01:24:31.300 --> 01:24:34.380
go back to the link tree. It's... We'll link

01:24:34.380 --> 01:24:39.000
it below, but it's linktree .com. And it has

01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.359
a bunch of very cool resources. I spend a lot

01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:43.260
of time compiling a reading list for Women's

01:24:43.260 --> 01:24:45.180
History Month that has a lot of important women

01:24:45.180 --> 01:24:48.079
authors. I think, like we said, you don't have

01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:49.359
to agree with anything we're saying. I think

01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:52.180
it's just so important to read something or listen

01:24:52.180 --> 01:24:54.500
to things and consume a piece of media that even

01:24:54.500 --> 01:24:56.579
if you don't agree with. And if reading's not

01:24:56.579 --> 01:24:58.020
your thing, we've got a bunch of video essays

01:24:58.020 --> 01:25:01.289
as well. check those out and we have a bunch

01:25:01.289 --> 01:25:03.270
of petitions if you would like to be more active

01:25:03.270 --> 01:25:07.050
both local and international so yeah i'd invite

01:25:07.050 --> 01:25:09.510
y 'all to look at that link And then soon enough,

01:25:09.689 --> 01:25:11.590
like fingers crossed, you might be getting a

01:25:11.590 --> 01:25:15.069
podcast soon too. So yes, I'm trying to make

01:25:15.069 --> 01:25:19.029
sure that we have, because I don't know necessarily

01:25:19.029 --> 01:25:21.289
if, you know, conversational would be the correct

01:25:21.289 --> 01:25:23.810
format. So hopefully we get some, you know, ideas

01:25:23.810 --> 01:25:26.850
written down and then we'll start making it soon.

01:25:26.949 --> 01:25:28.989
So if you want to hear more from us, you can

01:25:28.989 --> 01:25:30.670
always make sure that you're looking for those

01:25:30.670 --> 01:25:33.710
updates on that Instagram. Well, again, thank

01:25:33.710 --> 01:25:36.649
you guys so much for being on the podcast. Hopefully

01:25:36.649 --> 01:25:38.609
we see more of you guys in the future, genuinely.

01:25:39.449 --> 01:25:44.050
But, yeah, it's been amazing being able to sit

01:25:44.050 --> 01:25:46.430
down and speak with you. Thank you for closing

01:25:46.430 --> 01:25:48.449
out Women's History Month, too. Yes. What an

01:25:48.449 --> 01:25:51.850
episode. 100%. Thanks for having us. We appreciate

01:25:51.850 --> 01:25:57.289
it. I can't wait to say just blessed that. That's

01:25:57.289 --> 01:26:01.229
so awkward for me to say. I'm glad that you guys

01:26:01.229 --> 01:26:03.569
were sitting at that table and I ran into you

01:26:03.569 --> 01:26:06.729
guys. And thank you guys for listening so much.

01:26:07.210 --> 01:26:11.750
But we'll talk to you next week. Yeah. Bye. You

01:26:11.750 --> 01:26:13.289
want to say bye too? Bye. Bye.