WEBVTT 00:00:29.579 --> 00:00:35.140 factions catching the action and welcome back 00:00:35.140 --> 00:00:38.979 to finishes and factions this week we are doing 00:00:38.979 --> 00:00:45.539 finishes and factions does backlash 2025 and 00:00:46.750 --> 00:00:50.509 I would love to sit here and say that it was 00:00:50.509 --> 00:00:52.829 one of the best PLEs I'll probably ever see in 00:00:52.829 --> 00:00:55.630 my life, but honestly just felt me feeling a 00:00:55.630 --> 00:00:57.789 little bit underwhelmed. But we're going to talk 00:00:57.789 --> 00:01:05.510 about it anyway. So my name's Adam and the interrupting 00:01:05.510 --> 00:01:08.530 jerkwad that is Rich is here as well. Hi there, 00:01:08.530 --> 00:01:11.010 Rich. I was going to say, first of all, the one 00:01:11.010 --> 00:01:14.069 match I was looking forward to in this PLE. wasn't 00:01:14.069 --> 00:01:16.629 even part of this PLE. It's been pushed to Saturday 00:01:16.629 --> 00:01:21.250 night main event. So that is where it is. So 00:01:21.250 --> 00:01:23.930 the match I'm talking about was Jey Uso versus 00:01:23.930 --> 00:01:27.670 Logan Paul for the world heavyweight title. That 00:01:27.670 --> 00:01:29.810 was pushed back to the Saturday night main event 00:01:29.810 --> 00:01:36.469 after the Logan Paul attacked Jey Uso after the 00:01:36.469 --> 00:01:40.290 end of Monday Night Raw. So I think Uso, I think 00:01:40.290 --> 00:01:42.750 the fucking useless twat from youtube might have 00:01:42.750 --> 00:01:47.750 injured our world heavyweight champion why doesn't 00:01:47.750 --> 00:01:50.530 that shock me right i'm glad we found out what 00:01:50.530 --> 00:01:52.269 happened with that match because i remember talking 00:01:52.269 --> 00:01:55.030 to you before we recorded and been like i swear 00:01:55.030 --> 00:01:56.849 jay user was supposed to have a match at fucking 00:01:56.849 --> 00:02:00.450 backlash what the fuck happened yeah we both 00:02:00.450 --> 00:02:04.069 had that conversation and yeah i finally did 00:02:04.069 --> 00:02:07.010 some research and i worked out where it's gone 00:02:09.780 --> 00:02:14.060 C 'est la vie, we've got what we got, and I suppose 00:02:14.060 --> 00:02:17.159 the first thing we got was the Fatal Four Way 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:22.500 for the United States Championship. Right, and 00:02:22.500 --> 00:02:25.780 this was one of the matches that I thought was 00:02:25.780 --> 00:02:29.800 going to be an absolute barnstormer. It was going 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:31.479 to really set the tone for the pay -per -view, 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:36.520 and it did. It was lackluster. It was... Pretty 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:40.159 much like a singles match between Fatu and LA 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:43.879 Knight. Because Priest and McIntyre are off playing 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:46.960 with themselves in the crowd doing other things. 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:52.460 Yeah, it just did not feel like an opening match 00:02:52.460 --> 00:02:55.580 to a PLE should. We've seen better matches on 00:02:55.580 --> 00:02:59.830 SmackDown and NXT this week. It's very much the 00:02:59.830 --> 00:03:02.789 same with all of these matches so I'm gonna get 00:03:02.789 --> 00:03:05.689 this rant out the way soon straight from the 00:03:05.689 --> 00:03:12.009 offset Yep, this PLE is way too fucking early 00:03:12.009 --> 00:03:15.530 Yes, they should put it probably given it another 00:03:15.530 --> 00:03:18.590 week Possibly two and then move money in the 00:03:18.590 --> 00:03:23.400 bank like forward to back two weeks Made the 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:25.400 the gap between some of the other pay -per -views 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:27.419 a little bit short Maybe the build -up to summer 00:03:27.419 --> 00:03:29.300 slams because they're longer storylines. They 00:03:29.300 --> 00:03:33.439 can get away with doing it that way But yeah, 00:03:33.500 --> 00:03:38.139 it was it was enough We were two were two weeks 00:03:38.139 --> 00:03:42.319 removed from the show of shows which in itself 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:47.080 was relatively disappointing And then we've come 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:50.000 into backlash which sort of followed the same 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:54.069 sort of suit and The worst thing about it was 00:03:54.069 --> 00:03:58.250 was that this is not the performers fault This 00:03:58.250 --> 00:04:03.169 is all down to some Muppet in an office that 00:04:03.169 --> 00:04:06.289 has never set foot in a wrestling ring He goes, 00:04:06.629 --> 00:04:10.310 oh, that'll be a good idea. Yeah, we'll do that 00:04:10.310 --> 00:04:13.330 One of Vince's yes men that hasn't been fired 00:04:13.330 --> 00:04:17.319 yet. Where's John Lauren Itis? subject to a booking 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:20.800 decision, a bunch of booking decisions, which 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:25.100 these superstars had to try and make the best 00:04:25.100 --> 00:04:28.000 out of. I will be honest, the best match I thought 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.240 was the end match, and it was only because of 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:33.040 the sheer nostalgia of it that carried it through, 00:04:33.300 --> 00:04:35.600 in my opinion. I'll give you that. Yeah, the 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:38.899 first match I didn't think much of. One of the 00:04:38.899 --> 00:04:42.399 major sort of talking points of the first match, 00:04:42.420 --> 00:04:46.259 which was Jacob Fatu, LA Knight, Damian Priest 00:04:46.259 --> 00:04:52.680 and Drew McIncryer. Was that we got the debut 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:58.439 of Jeff Cobb. Who Michael Cole described as the 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:03.300 biggest name in free agency. But that seems to 00:05:03.300 --> 00:05:06.120 be a phrase that everyone uses about unsigned 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:09.220 wrestlers at the moment. Because I'm pretty sure 00:05:09.220 --> 00:05:12.699 Ricky Saints was there. hottest free agent and 00:05:12.699 --> 00:05:17.240 he's just been a pile of shite on NXT. And I'm 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:19.579 gonna be honest, I didn't think much of Jeff 00:05:19.579 --> 00:05:23.480 Cobb's debut either. Not for a run in, I will 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:25.459 admit. So for those of you who haven't seen it, 00:05:25.500 --> 00:05:28.279 there is a little section where LA Knight has 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:32.220 got Jacob Fatu on the announce table. He's going 00:05:32.220 --> 00:05:37.519 for an elbow drop off the turnbuckle and Sola 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:41.319 Sokova pulls Jacob Fatu off the announce table, 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:44.759 leaving LA Knight looking very pissed off. So 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:47.019 he goes down to have a word with Solos of Cover 00:05:47.019 --> 00:05:51.620 and Jeff cobbles him over the barricade and then 00:05:51.620 --> 00:05:54.379 jumps in, throws him around a little bit. You 00:05:54.379 --> 00:05:58.160 don't see any, he threw him into the ring a few 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:01.399 times, into the ring post and did a cross body 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:06.180 against his back towards the ring post. And then 00:06:06.180 --> 00:06:09.160 just kind of threw him in. back for Fatou to 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:11.660 deal with. We didn't really see anything impressive. 00:06:12.860 --> 00:06:15.199 Nothing about this made me go, oh, can't wait 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:19.339 to see what Jeff Cobb does next week. And in 00:06:19.339 --> 00:06:21.160 fairness, I've spent some time watching some 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:24.060 of his matches on the Indy circuit. And honestly, 00:06:24.100 --> 00:06:26.300 I think what we saw in that running was pretty 00:06:26.300 --> 00:06:28.060 much what we're going to get in his matches. 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.379 Oh, God. That's what we're going to get in his 00:06:30.379 --> 00:06:34.980 matches. Honestly, I think they've really like 00:06:34.980 --> 00:06:39.100 seriously overhyped it. Yeah, if that is the 00:06:39.100 --> 00:06:43.019 case then yeah, because that was not worth Let's 00:06:43.019 --> 00:06:44.759 put it this way. I'm glad I didn't buy a ticket 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:48.920 to go to backlash So enjoy the PLE because if 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:52.699 that was the highlight of a debut I'd rather 00:06:52.699 --> 00:06:56.379 have been in the pub Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. 00:06:56.379 --> 00:06:59.660 I'm sort of hoping that they that they pull something 00:06:59.660 --> 00:07:07.660 massive out of the bag to polish what was a rather 00:07:07.660 --> 00:07:12.300 disappointing sort of debut. I mean, yeah, we've 00:07:12.300 --> 00:07:15.920 certainly seen... I have seen rumours floating 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:18.279 around about why we've got Jeff Cobb in this 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:21.519 situation, we've got him. And one of those is 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:24.379 because there is obviously a feud coming up soon 00:07:24.379 --> 00:07:29.300 between Jacob Pappatoo and Solo Sakawa. And Solo 00:07:29.300 --> 00:07:32.839 mentioned on SmackDown that he was out of soldiers. 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:37.480 in a little backstage segment. So Jeff Cobb has 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:41.079 been brought in as a soldier. He will obviously, 00:07:41.100 --> 00:07:44.759 I feel, end up lining with Solo Sokoa during 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:47.980 the feud with Jacob Fatu. And I think that's 00:07:47.980 --> 00:07:51.720 when we'll see Zilla Fatu arrive from, I think 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:56.879 he's in GCW at the moment. I know he's somewhere, 00:07:57.019 --> 00:08:01.100 but he's somewhere on the Indy circuit. I don't 00:08:01.100 --> 00:08:03.610 think we're going to see him. You don't think 00:08:03.610 --> 00:08:06.269 I know he will. He said that he's come in. He 00:08:06.269 --> 00:08:09.949 just hasn't told anyone when, but I think it 00:08:09.949 --> 00:08:14.649 will be within this section where he will because 00:08:14.649 --> 00:08:18.389 there was a this is some backstory that I've 00:08:18.389 --> 00:08:20.509 had to do some research to find some of this. 00:08:20.930 --> 00:08:23.529 But Jacob Fatu and Jeff Cobb did not get on the 00:08:23.529 --> 00:08:27.910 Indy circuit. Like in Ring, they were very much 00:08:27.910 --> 00:08:31.629 like we don't like each other. He's a dick. He's 00:08:31.629 --> 00:08:35.509 a dick. No, he's a dick Sort of thing and Zilla 00:08:35.509 --> 00:08:38.509 was the only one that far to feels that he can 00:08:38.509 --> 00:08:43.250 trust that's not already in WWE I Don't know 00:08:43.250 --> 00:08:45.570 how long the again. This is a bad booking decision 00:08:45.570 --> 00:08:47.250 I think I don't know how long they're gonna try 00:08:47.250 --> 00:08:49.350 and flog this how many members of the annoying 00:08:49.350 --> 00:08:52.110 family Can we get into the into this business? 00:08:53.009 --> 00:08:57.029 But yes, this we're getting a fair few of them 00:08:57.029 --> 00:09:02.370 Yeah, it's I think they're overplaying their 00:09:02.370 --> 00:09:04.429 hand with this bloodline bollocks. I will be 00:09:04.429 --> 00:09:06.490 completely honest. It's a case that they need 00:09:06.490 --> 00:09:10.509 to, they need to let it, they need to let it 00:09:10.509 --> 00:09:14.370 go. Yeah, I mean, whether it be the bloodline, 00:09:14.429 --> 00:09:17.129 the family or whatever, it's run its course. 00:09:17.750 --> 00:09:20.029 They are flogging a dead donkey and it's that 00:09:20.029 --> 00:09:22.289 dead that half of it's decomposed and the other 00:09:22.289 --> 00:09:27.970 half is just dust. Yeah, pretty much. It's a 00:09:27.970 --> 00:09:32.830 case that. Yeah, we just don't need any more 00:09:32.830 --> 00:09:39.029 bloodline shite it just it's not necessary No 00:09:39.029 --> 00:09:44.450 nowhere near necessary and I feel that eventually 00:09:44.450 --> 00:09:48.190 Someone is gonna have to and I hate to say I 00:09:48.190 --> 00:09:49.769 think the only thing that's gonna stop it is 00:09:49.769 --> 00:09:53.129 an injury. I Think someone's gonna end up getting 00:09:53.129 --> 00:09:57.649 hurt doing Like quite badly doing this whole 00:09:57.649 --> 00:10:00.179 bloodline crap And they're going to end up having 00:10:00.179 --> 00:10:04.460 to pull the plug on it. I can't say who it is, 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:07.240 but I couldn't tell you exactly who I think is 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:08.399 going to get injured. But I think there's going 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:10.200 to be something quite big that goes off and they 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:11.720 just go, right, we'll pull the plug on that one. 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:14.100 We don't see any of them for six, eight weeks. 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:18.480 And they repackage, sort of like repackage the 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:21.259 ones they can, release the ones they don't need 00:10:21.259 --> 00:10:23.720 and let the bigger ones go off and carry on with 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:27.639 what they've been doing. Yeah, it's and it's 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:29.860 gonna be sad that they do it they do it that 00:10:29.860 --> 00:10:32.860 way if that's how they end up doing it But it's 00:10:32.860 --> 00:10:36.639 yeah, they've they've Well and truly overplayed 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:40.159 their hand with it. I do think Some of the ones 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:42.500 that are gonna get released and I hate I hate 00:10:42.500 --> 00:10:44.500 to say it's I really like the character basis 00:10:44.500 --> 00:10:46.720 They have for him. I think Tamatongo will go 00:10:47.699 --> 00:10:51.039 And I think Tonga Loa will go as well when they 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:54.100 both come back from injury. I think they'll struggle 00:10:54.100 --> 00:10:56.700 to find anything to do with them. They were bought 00:10:56.700 --> 00:10:59.240 in for the bloodline stuff. The bloodline stuff 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:04.000 is finishing, hopefully. I'm not quite sure what's 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:05.600 worse, how long they've dragged the bloodline 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:07.639 stuff out for or how long Charlotte Flair's dragged 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:12.159 her career out for. Yeah. Well, we're not going 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:14.019 to talk about Charlotte Flair. She's not involved 00:11:14.019 --> 00:11:16.299 in backlash. She's not. That's probably one of 00:11:16.299 --> 00:11:21.320 the only ways it could get worse. However, we're 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:23.000 going to talk about we are going to talk about 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:25.460 two women in the next match, which is the Women's 00:11:25.460 --> 00:11:28.320 Intercontinental Championship match. I will say 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:31.360 before we go too far that Fatou does retain his 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:36.779 title on in this fatal four way. With the help 00:11:36.779 --> 00:11:39.899 of Jeff God. If you thought it was going to go 00:11:39.899 --> 00:11:42.919 any way differently then pull your head out of 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:45.360 your ass Yeah, for those of you thought LA Knight 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:49.620 was getting it back. I It's not gonna happen 00:11:49.620 --> 00:11:51.899 for a while, but he will get it back eventually 00:11:51.899 --> 00:11:56.120 it just won't get it back from Jacob I've got 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:00.379 a feeling that we're gonna see it's He's not 00:12:00.379 --> 00:12:04.809 gonna be continuing to go for the US title. I've 00:12:04.809 --> 00:12:06.710 got a feeling he's going to start... Well, he's 00:12:06.710 --> 00:12:09.370 your pick for Money in the Bank, isn't he? LA 00:12:09.370 --> 00:12:11.309 Knight was your pick for Money in the Bank, wasn't 00:12:11.309 --> 00:12:15.750 he? So, I haven't... I don't think I've ventured 00:12:15.750 --> 00:12:17.990 a pick for Money in the Bank just yet. I might 00:12:17.990 --> 00:12:23.250 be wrong, but it's a case that I have an odd 00:12:23.250 --> 00:12:26.549 feeling that he's going to make a play for one 00:12:26.549 --> 00:12:30.009 of the heavyweight titles. Because there is room 00:12:30.009 --> 00:12:34.970 that the WWE draft is coming up soon. Oh bonus 00:12:34.970 --> 00:12:41.990 episode And as always the draft is the draft 00:12:41.990 --> 00:12:44.870 is included within the weekly shows so it's not 00:12:44.870 --> 00:12:48.610 We might get a we might get a bonus episode out 00:12:48.610 --> 00:12:53.129 of it. Just sort of You might not theorizing 00:12:53.129 --> 00:12:57.649 on theorizing on who and what and where yeah 00:12:57.649 --> 00:13:01.509 how it all sort of comes off but realistically 00:13:01.509 --> 00:13:05.750 I'm just not yeah I don't see him continuing 00:13:05.750 --> 00:13:11.210 to flog the dead horse that is him going to constantly 00:13:11.210 --> 00:13:14.669 bat for the even if it isn't the US title it 00:13:14.669 --> 00:13:17.990 could be the IC title I think LA Knight versus 00:13:17.990 --> 00:13:21.210 Dom could be an interesting interesting way but 00:13:21.210 --> 00:13:23.769 yeah that doesn't happen either and Dom's match 00:13:23.769 --> 00:13:26.970 is a little bit later on but there were two women 00:13:26.970 --> 00:13:30.309 Adam were talking about. One of them is the current 00:13:30.309 --> 00:13:34.350 women's intercontinental title holder, Lyra Valkyria. 00:13:35.009 --> 00:13:41.350 The other one is the man, Mrs. Rollins, Becky 00:13:41.350 --> 00:13:47.350 Lynch. And Becky's come back to try and see if 00:13:47.350 --> 00:13:50.190 she can get the only title in WWE. She's not 00:13:50.190 --> 00:13:54.850 held yet. Well, there's an argument to be made 00:13:54.850 --> 00:14:01.070 that she hasn't yet held the the women's US title 00:14:01.070 --> 00:14:07.289 just yet either, but yeah, it's I'm just It's 00:14:07.289 --> 00:14:09.690 been a very underwhelmed. It's been a very sort 00:14:09.690 --> 00:14:16.620 of underwhelming run -up to The match it's like 00:14:16.620 --> 00:14:19.220 Becky Lynch has definitely we've not seen her 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:22.039 at her best under any circumstances There's still 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.379 a fair chunk of ring rust in there as much as 00:14:24.379 --> 00:14:28.039 commentary would like to tell you there isn't 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.539 The problem I have with the whole situation was 00:14:31.539 --> 00:14:34.899 Becky's I feel Becky's gonna start to turn into 00:14:34.899 --> 00:14:38.200 Charlotte here. It's one of those where she could 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:43.240 come She's come back in a way she's won a title 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:45.500 Fair enough, that adds to her Hall of Fame career. 00:14:45.779 --> 00:14:48.000 Obviously she won the women's tag titles at WrestleMania 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.000 with Lyra Valkyria. Lost them the next night 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:54.320 to, I can't remember off the top of my head, 00:14:54.419 --> 00:14:57.940 Liv and Raquel? Yeah, so Liv and Raquel got the 00:14:57.940 --> 00:15:00.460 titles back, became four time tag team title 00:15:00.460 --> 00:15:07.620 holders. And then Becky turned on Lyra, which 00:15:07.620 --> 00:15:14.919 is what started this feud. And so far, yes. I 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:18.120 think Lyra's held her own. She's buried Charlotte, 00:15:18.220 --> 00:15:22.000 not Charlotte, Becky in a few of their exchanges 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:27.399 of words. And this match itself actually, Lyra 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:34.460 was all over her. Literally. I sat watching this 00:15:34.460 --> 00:15:37.039 thinking, you know what? This doesn't look like 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:39.179 the Becky Lynch that we're used to, but Lyra 00:15:39.179 --> 00:15:41.860 looks so much stronger than what she used to. 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:46.500 a month ago, six weeks ago. This is what I tried 00:15:46.500 --> 00:15:53.620 saying is that this matchup, this storyline is 00:15:53.620 --> 00:15:58.460 being used to enhance Lyra. Yeah and Becky gets 00:15:58.460 --> 00:16:02.940 a payday which is always a bonus. Yeah there's 00:16:02.940 --> 00:16:07.009 nobody that would have enhanced Lyra Valkyria's 00:16:07.009 --> 00:16:09.669 profile like Becky Lynch would have done. No, 00:16:09.870 --> 00:16:11.850 and considering you have the mentor side of it 00:16:11.850 --> 00:16:15.049 as well, it kind of increases the strength of 00:16:15.049 --> 00:16:21.470 that rivalry. You know, you've got that very 00:16:21.470 --> 00:16:24.129 much like the CM Punk Seth Rollins thing, you 00:16:24.129 --> 00:16:29.309 know, like there is that pure sort of aggression 00:16:29.309 --> 00:16:32.820 in it. And both of these women play the the role 00:16:32.820 --> 00:16:35.519 very very well and they've both made it very 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:38.200 very convincing in the short time they've had 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:41.100 if backlash wasn't a pay -per -view and they 00:16:41.100 --> 00:16:42.879 were building this up to a match at money in 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:46.960 the bank i think we'd have had a four -star match 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:52.220 like an incredible match yeah they like everything 00:16:52.220 --> 00:16:54.639 else with backlash it was a case that they needed 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:58.840 more time to be able to develop the story lines 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:25.220 and actually get some real heat behind it I will 00:17:25.220 --> 00:17:29.880 say though that Lyra managed to withhold 3 manhandle 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:34.970 slams. and still win. Not many people are known 00:17:34.970 --> 00:17:38.509 to be able to absorb that much damage. Like she's 00:17:38.509 --> 00:17:42.890 a tank. Literally just taking shots all night. 00:17:43.690 --> 00:17:46.950 Did not care. Anybody that up to the point of 00:17:46.950 --> 00:17:52.269 this match needed somebody, something or someone 00:17:52.269 --> 00:17:55.970 to tell them that Lyra Valkyria was fucking cash 00:17:55.970 --> 00:17:59.289 money in the ring needs their fucking head examining. 00:17:59.589 --> 00:18:04.029 I genuinely believe she is so much better than 00:18:04.029 --> 00:18:07.490 anybody ever gives her credit for. I will throw 00:18:07.490 --> 00:18:09.769 this out there as well, right? Out of all the 00:18:09.769 --> 00:18:12.109 matches that are on this card, the main event 00:18:12.109 --> 00:18:15.210 is obviously a nostalgia thing. You take that 00:18:15.210 --> 00:18:19.529 out. This was probably much of the night. Like, 00:18:19.730 --> 00:18:23.269 I think, you know, the Dom Panta match was good, 00:18:23.990 --> 00:18:27.789 but I think this one pips it. I put this one 00:18:27.789 --> 00:18:29.690 down as match of the night because Lyra put on 00:18:29.690 --> 00:18:33.069 a hell of a display and she made Baki look like 00:18:33.069 --> 00:18:37.930 an amateur and we know that Baki's not an amateur. 00:18:39.470 --> 00:18:41.849 Yeah. A bit of ring rust maybe, but not amateur. 00:18:43.589 --> 00:18:47.670 I just don't think that going into that match 00:18:47.670 --> 00:18:52.230 pretty much cold, I don't think that... Becky 00:18:52.230 --> 00:18:55.829 Lynch realistically had any business being in 00:18:55.829 --> 00:18:59.210 that ring. Yeah, no, but this was all about Lyra 00:18:59.210 --> 00:19:01.650 and getting some big names under her hat and 00:19:01.650 --> 00:19:05.069 it worked. She's now got the biggest scalp in 00:19:05.069 --> 00:19:07.430 women's professional wrestling that's not Charlotte 00:19:07.430 --> 00:19:11.470 Flair. Granted, Charlotte Flair, you've got to 00:19:11.470 --> 00:19:13.309 say she is the greatest of all time when it comes 00:19:13.309 --> 00:19:15.349 to women's wrestling purely for the titles that 00:19:15.349 --> 00:19:20.049 she's had and the amount of them. Yes. And within 00:19:20.049 --> 00:19:23.150 WWE anyway, the amount of Sadie's money seems 00:19:23.150 --> 00:19:24.890 to be pulling out everywhere. I think she's wearing 00:19:24.890 --> 00:19:28.769 like five at the moment. But yeah, no, Becky 00:19:28.769 --> 00:19:32.170 Lynch is probably second best. It's someone that 00:19:32.170 --> 00:19:35.589 you can kind of still have a decent match with 00:19:35.589 --> 00:19:39.309 without trying to pull in Hall of Famer or an 00:19:39.309 --> 00:19:41.230 old school Diva. There's no one else I could 00:19:41.230 --> 00:19:44.210 think of apart from you say like Bailey, but 00:19:44.210 --> 00:19:46.509 that's, you know, she was written out for this 00:19:46.509 --> 00:19:52.140 reason. Yeah, Becky was a good sculpt for Lyra 00:19:52.140 --> 00:19:53.740 to have and she's gonna be able to sit there 00:19:53.740 --> 00:19:57.759 and enjoy that one for a long time to come. Yeah, 00:19:57.819 --> 00:20:02.400 and so she should. Definitely. It is a case that 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:08.759 she has more than earned it and yeah, there's 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:14.079 so many props that need to go to Lyra that just 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:20.589 don't. Mean 100 days as well because like 106 00:20:20.589 --> 00:20:27.069 days She's the inaugural champion she hasn't 00:20:27.069 --> 00:20:30.990 been given much screen time and not for that 00:20:30.990 --> 00:20:35.650 title anyway No, that most of her screen has 00:20:35.650 --> 00:20:38.490 been with Bailey in in tag team action, especially 00:20:38.490 --> 00:20:45.180 with the build up to WrestleMania and They were 00:20:45.180 --> 00:20:48.460 in the tag team gauntlet match weren't they to 00:20:48.460 --> 00:20:52.279 get the the match at WrestleMania Yeah, which 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:54.460 made complete sense at the time they were building 00:20:54.460 --> 00:20:59.119 to mania and Yeah, there were some absolute classic 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:02.400 matches put on during that gauntlet But now they 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:05.279 need to be focusing on Lyra as a singles competitor 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:09.079 especially after securing such a big win over 00:21:09.930 --> 00:21:13.109 becky lynch who is and always will be ring rust 00:21:13.109 --> 00:21:16.549 or not and in ring legend yeah no of course i 00:21:16.549 --> 00:21:19.289 just she has secured her she has secured a spot 00:21:19.289 --> 00:21:21.470 in the hall of fame in years to come and that 00:21:21.470 --> 00:21:24.970 will happen it definitely will but for lyra who's 00:21:24.970 --> 00:21:27.769 next once this storyline with becky is done and 00:21:27.769 --> 00:21:33.730 i'm pretty i'm i'm 97 sure this is it now she's 00:21:33.730 --> 00:21:36.569 she's been she's got over a little bit more she's 00:21:36.539 --> 00:21:39.240 Got that confidence to bring herself out on her 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:41.640 promos and her in -ring ability. Who's next for 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:50.559 Lyra Valkyria? This is it. It's been a fantasy 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:55.599 booking for it. Because we could see her against 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:59.079 Jade Cargill for that one if they're going to 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:02.619 put Cargill on a smaller title just to see how 00:22:02.619 --> 00:22:07.150 the crowd react to it. No, do you know what? 00:22:08.210 --> 00:22:12.349 Go for it odd odd little call but I like your 00:22:12.349 --> 00:22:14.049 little calls. They've they've done well in the 00:22:14.049 --> 00:22:20.490 past go hit me with it and so Laura Valkyria, 00:22:20.630 --> 00:22:23.710 she'll have she she'll they'll give her a run 00:22:23.710 --> 00:22:26.769 with some small -time singles matches keep her 00:22:26.769 --> 00:22:33.069 fresh but We've seen a lot of Roxanne Perez on 00:22:33.069 --> 00:22:40.339 Raw recently Ooh. What about giving Roxanne Perez 00:22:40.339 --> 00:22:44.200 her main roster call up, the proper call up, 00:22:45.460 --> 00:22:48.880 and giving her Ed Woodin's intercontinental title 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:53.000 shot? She doesn't have to lift the belt. No, 00:22:53.140 --> 00:22:55.240 give her an opportunity. Part of her call up 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:59.359 is she gets mouthy to the general manager about 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:02.819 how she's better than Lyra. She should have that 00:23:02.819 --> 00:23:05.740 title. So the general manager gives her an opportunity 00:23:05.740 --> 00:23:08.279 to take it. Lyra gives her a kick in the teeth. 00:23:10.660 --> 00:23:14.579 It raises it raises because Roxanne Perez comes 00:23:14.579 --> 00:23:18.500 with a lot of hype behind her. I feel that her 00:23:18.500 --> 00:23:23.519 reputation in NXT speaks volumes for how she's 00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:26.640 going to come into the main roster. She is going 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:29.569 to piss a lot of people off. I hope so. She's 00:23:29.569 --> 00:23:31.789 going to get slapped by Naomi at some point or 00:23:31.789 --> 00:23:34.109 definitely Liv Morgan when she gets back from 00:23:34.109 --> 00:23:36.670 filming that movie. Well, that was the other 00:23:36.670 --> 00:23:38.650 one I was going to say is that Roxanne Perez 00:23:38.650 --> 00:23:41.769 and Liv Morgan, I think, could put on a day. 00:23:41.849 --> 00:23:44.950 Yeah, they're two peas in a fucking pod, those 00:23:44.950 --> 00:23:49.490 pair, and they will clash. They will. They will 00:23:49.490 --> 00:23:53.190 clash at some point. So that could lead to another 00:23:53.190 --> 00:23:55.609 faction coming in and you having another team 00:23:55.609 --> 00:23:57.769 going up against the New Day and not the New 00:23:57.769 --> 00:24:01.369 Day, the Judgment Day. Well, it's funny you mentioned 00:24:01.369 --> 00:24:03.569 Judgment Day because I've seen something online 00:24:03.569 --> 00:24:06.009 that's really intriguing and it's it's intrigued 00:24:06.009 --> 00:24:07.990 me more than I thought it was right Well, hit 00:24:07.990 --> 00:24:10.750 me hit us with it was we can then move from that 00:24:10.750 --> 00:24:13.490 into the next match, which is a member of the 00:24:13.490 --> 00:24:16.710 Judgment Day So that fits in really nicely go 00:24:16.710 --> 00:24:22.930 for it. I know so what I've seen is I think it 00:24:22.930 --> 00:24:25.390 was a some it was a fan mock -up of a summer 00:24:25.390 --> 00:24:30.019 slam poster which sees Liv Morgan, Raquel Rodriguez 00:24:30.019 --> 00:24:35.339 and Dominic Mysterio as one three -person tag 00:24:35.339 --> 00:24:45.240 team against Roxanne Perez, Julia and Finn Balor. 00:24:48.180 --> 00:24:52.539 That's a dirty match isn't it? That's a very 00:24:52.539 --> 00:24:57.920 dirty match but the lead -up to Finn Because 00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:00.339 I'd want to know how Finn Balor ends up with 00:25:00.339 --> 00:25:05.700 Julia and Roxanne Perez That could be really, 00:25:05.980 --> 00:25:08.960 oh that's naughty, that's really naughty you 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:12.339 say that was for SummerSlam Yeah, it's a fan 00:25:12.339 --> 00:25:14.420 mock -up poster, but I'll tell you what if they 00:25:14.420 --> 00:25:18.220 can work that angle and And make that something 00:25:18.220 --> 00:25:27.099 then yeah 100 % See I say that But I think that 00:25:27.099 --> 00:25:29.900 they'll have Roxanne Perez in the Money in the 00:25:29.900 --> 00:25:34.279 Bank ladder match for the women. I don't think 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:36.160 she'll win it, but I think she'll be in that 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:37.740 match. Because if you think about it, she was 00:25:37.740 --> 00:25:42.380 also in the elimination chamber. She was, and 00:25:42.380 --> 00:25:44.599 she took part in the Royal Rumble as well. Yes, 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:47.720 she has. So I think that we're going to see her 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.519 in the ladder match for the women's Money in 00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:54.750 the Bank. I can't quite work out who I think 00:25:54.750 --> 00:25:56.650 they're going to put the women's money in the 00:25:56.650 --> 00:26:01.250 bank briefcase on yet. I'm still a little bit 00:26:01.250 --> 00:26:05.450 hit and miss with a few ideas. But, um... So, 00:26:05.950 --> 00:26:09.309 hear me out. The women's money in the bank ladder 00:26:09.309 --> 00:26:11.470 match, I'm not going to call anybody else, but 00:26:11.470 --> 00:26:13.990 two of the participants, one of them being Roxanne 00:26:13.990 --> 00:26:18.549 Perez and the other one being Liv Morgan. You 00:26:18.549 --> 00:26:21.029 know what? That was... the one I was going with 00:26:21.029 --> 00:26:23.890 and I'm going to add into a third one that Alexa 00:26:23.890 --> 00:26:26.410 Bliss is going to be in that ladder match too. 00:26:28.430 --> 00:26:31.250 Yes but not she's won't have any involvement 00:26:31.250 --> 00:26:35.539 in The storyline that I'm cooking in my head 00:26:35.539 --> 00:26:38.700 at the minute, which is this that's how that's 00:26:38.700 --> 00:26:41.779 how we start So we've already seen the cracks 00:26:41.779 --> 00:26:45.000 forming in Judgment Day Finn Balor's exit from 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.099 that faction is imminent. It will happen. Oh, 00:26:48.140 --> 00:26:54.160 yes, you can put your mortgage on it But if If 00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:58.819 Liv Morgan Roxanne Perez both both make a play 00:26:58.819 --> 00:27:00.920 for money in the bank neither one of them get 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.089 it But it sparked a rivalry between the two. 00:27:04.329 --> 00:27:09.029 You then see Roxanne Perez team up with Julia, 00:27:09.349 --> 00:27:11.869 who has been, they've been pretty tight over 00:27:11.869 --> 00:27:14.150 the last couple of weeks by the looks of things. 00:27:15.150 --> 00:27:19.450 And they get a women's tag title opportunity 00:27:19.450 --> 00:27:23.809 against Liv and Raquel. They lift the titles 00:27:23.809 --> 00:27:29.859 off Liv and Raquel, which then also happens to 00:27:29.859 --> 00:27:32.579 coincide roughly with when Finn Balor makes his 00:27:32.579 --> 00:27:36.579 exit and decides to latch himself on to these 00:27:36.579 --> 00:27:41.160 two young upstart talents and almost creates 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.759 an opposite faction for the Judgment Day and 00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:49.559 that's how we go into SummerSlam with Liv, Raquel, 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.900 Dom because Dom will get pulled wherever Liv 00:27:52.900 --> 00:27:58.359 is. Yes. That's how that will go. He's this bitch 00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:04.480 really in 100 % and and then it'll be live Raquel 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:12.279 Dom versus Roxanne Julia and Bala Which yeah, 00:28:12.819 --> 00:28:14.960 it's it's bare bones. You could you'd have to 00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:17.019 flesh it out a little bit, but that would be 00:28:17.019 --> 00:28:18.960 pretty interesting Anyway, we're talking too 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.140 much about future PLEs. We could be here or not. 00:28:21.140 --> 00:28:25.950 We could be here all day, so We'll move on to 00:28:25.950 --> 00:28:28.309 the next match which we said tied in quite nicely 00:28:28.309 --> 00:28:31.130 because it is our current Intercontinental Champion, 00:28:31.670 --> 00:28:39.569 Dirty Dominic Mysterio, who is facing off against 00:28:39.569 --> 00:28:45.369 Penta. And you know what? Penta's entrance music 00:28:45.369 --> 00:28:50.690 is growing on me. It's also changed. So this 00:28:50.690 --> 00:28:54.009 time he has debuted it with the guitarist from 00:28:54.009 --> 00:28:57.829 Tool. Slamming in some lovely little pieces. 00:28:58.710 --> 00:29:01.309 It's only subtle work, but it is very, very nice. 00:29:01.410 --> 00:29:03.690 And yes, I will agree with you. It is slowly 00:29:03.690 --> 00:29:06.930 growing on mine. It's slowly growing on me too. 00:29:07.470 --> 00:29:09.809 I will say though, my favorite entry music at 00:29:09.809 --> 00:29:13.390 the moment just happens to be, it's day one, 00:29:13.569 --> 00:29:17.549 it's just me, oofs. Oh, it's my ringtone, mate. 00:29:17.710 --> 00:29:20.960 It's my alarm in the morning. Anybody gives me 00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:23.539 a phone call, that's it. If I don't answer the 00:29:23.539 --> 00:29:25.500 phone, it's because I'm there just yeeting and 00:29:25.500 --> 00:29:28.819 watching. I'm gonna make sure I phone you on 00:29:28.819 --> 00:29:30.859 the way home from work now just to see if you 00:29:30.859 --> 00:29:32.359 start yeeting at the bus stop with your headphones. 00:29:33.779 --> 00:29:36.299 Oh, 100 % mate, I'll do it on the bus. I'll be 00:29:36.299 --> 00:29:38.420 hitting the guy in the front of me in the head. 00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:40.559 As long as you're recording it and putting it 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.440 on the finishes and factions. Am I gonna fucking 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:44.579 record it? I need both hands to yeet, motherfucker. 00:29:44.859 --> 00:29:48.500 Put one phone in here. Yeet with it in your hand. 00:29:48.619 --> 00:29:55.029 Right. You won't say anything anyway. Yeah, regardless. 00:29:56.690 --> 00:29:59.230 Rich, what were your takes on that Intercontinental 00:29:59.230 --> 00:30:01.569 Championship match? I really enjoyed it, to be 00:30:01.569 --> 00:30:08.450 fair. It's nice watching where Dom's progressed 00:30:08.450 --> 00:30:10.710 from when he first came into the business to 00:30:10.710 --> 00:30:15.990 now. And going up against someone like Penta, 00:30:16.430 --> 00:30:19.650 it just shows how far he has come and how good 00:30:19.650 --> 00:30:23.220 he is. Like I know he he he brags about you know, 00:30:23.299 --> 00:30:25.039 I've only had the title 30 minutes I'm still 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.259 the greatest and you know, I'm already the greatest 00:30:27.259 --> 00:30:29.279 intercontinental champion has ever been he's 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:30.960 got an ego to him Don't get me wrong, but he 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:32.619 backs it up in the ring and he's doing really 00:30:32.619 --> 00:30:35.059 well this match I thought was really really good. 00:30:35.059 --> 00:30:37.619 Like I said, it was almost match of the night 00:30:37.619 --> 00:30:42.259 for me but The Lyra Becky one beat it for me 00:30:42.259 --> 00:30:45.079 just for a pinch, but this was a really really 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:49.420 good match and You know, I'd quite happily go 00:30:49.420 --> 00:30:52.329 back and watch it again I'm not going to lie. 00:30:52.690 --> 00:30:54.869 And do you know what? I found myself thinking 00:30:54.869 --> 00:30:57.210 the same thing as I watched the match that watch 00:30:57.210 --> 00:31:01.670 this match in. But yeah, just sort of seeing 00:31:01.670 --> 00:31:06.930 how legitimately good Dominic Mysterio has become. 00:31:07.650 --> 00:31:11.529 Yeah, like I know he's not just working off his 00:31:11.529 --> 00:31:14.750 dad's name. He's making that name his as well. 00:31:14.930 --> 00:31:17.410 And he's he's doing really well. I'm actually. 00:31:17.980 --> 00:31:19.900 I actually kind of look forward to as much as 00:31:19.900 --> 00:31:21.759 now. It used to be like, oh, fuck it, it's done. 00:31:22.579 --> 00:31:25.599 Now it's more like, oh, cool, yeah, I'm done. 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:32.960 A lot of former current wrestlers are naming 00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.180 Dominik Mysterio as having unlimited potential. 00:31:37.980 --> 00:31:42.140 The sky is the limit for this guy. And it is 00:31:42.140 --> 00:31:44.279 going to be so interesting to watch his career 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:49.299 progress. I just keep, I hope he keeps doing 00:31:49.299 --> 00:31:52.299 the three Amigos throughout his career, like 00:31:52.299 --> 00:31:55.200 on a regular as well, because I kind of miss, 00:31:56.140 --> 00:31:59.059 I'd love to see Eddie Guerrero against some of 00:31:59.059 --> 00:32:01.680 these superstars, you know. I know he'd be old, 00:32:02.019 --> 00:32:06.700 but can you imagine Eddie versus Penta? Oh, mate. 00:32:10.700 --> 00:32:14.369 Send shivers down his spine. It does mate, it 00:32:14.369 --> 00:32:17.269 does. That's the PG way of saying it anyway. 00:32:19.130 --> 00:32:22.690 Yeah, otherwise we go down the Wade Barrett route 00:32:22.690 --> 00:32:24.730 when he talks about LA Knight and we start talking 00:32:24.730 --> 00:32:28.750 about tingling in our loins. Yeah, no, we're 00:32:28.750 --> 00:32:34.950 not doing that one. This match was a good match. 00:32:35.650 --> 00:32:40.009 We did also have a guest appearance in this one. 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:44.700 El Grande Americano decided that he was going 00:32:44.700 --> 00:32:51.880 to intervene to help Dom out. I don't think he 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:54.039 was there necessarily to help Dom. No, he was 00:32:54.039 --> 00:33:00.500 more to screw Penta. He is on a bit of a crusade 00:33:00.500 --> 00:33:06.279 against the Luchador wrestlers. yeah i'm sorry 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.240 i'm still i'm still willing to put money down 00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:12.799 that el grande americano is fucking chad gable 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:19.119 i mean even uh nick aldis um no adam pierce sorry 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.900 uh i spoke to him or asked him about it and at 00:33:21.900 --> 00:33:24.299 one point he was wearing a t -shirt in this clip 00:33:24.299 --> 00:33:27.259 that actually was el grande americano's t -shirt 00:33:27.259 --> 00:33:31.339 and uh yeah it was a few little details if you 00:33:31.339 --> 00:33:34.569 if you look at it but yeah it was a It's definitely 00:33:34.569 --> 00:33:38.549 Chad Gable. If it's not Chad Gable, I will have 00:33:38.549 --> 00:33:41.609 my vasectomy reversed, just to have it done again. 00:33:42.690 --> 00:33:44.369 Yeah, I don't think your wife would be too happy 00:33:44.369 --> 00:33:47.250 about that, mate. Well, I don't know to be fair. 00:33:49.490 --> 00:33:53.869 But yeah, El Grande Americano interferes in the 00:33:53.869 --> 00:33:58.250 match with his steel plated mask and yeah, basically 00:33:58.250 --> 00:34:01.950 blasts. Such a bullshit gimmick. Such a bullshit 00:34:01.950 --> 00:34:07.039 thing. It's overused now. It is. It was every 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.460 once in a while, but it's every week. Every time 00:34:10.460 --> 00:34:12.940 you see him he's headbutting someone with that 00:34:12.940 --> 00:34:18.679 bit of metal. The only thing I can't seem to 00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.139 get past is that I'd do as much damage to him 00:34:21.139 --> 00:34:23.239 as it does to the person he's headbutting. I 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:26.619 thought that! But then Chad Gable's got a pretty 00:34:26.619 --> 00:34:29.539 meaty forehead, so yeah, he's got some extra 00:34:29.539 --> 00:34:33.719 padding, innit? Yeah, this is it and it's yeah, 00:34:33.739 --> 00:34:36.340 I'm I'm wondering how long they're gonna string 00:34:36.340 --> 00:34:40.260 El Grande Americano out I hope it's not much 00:34:40.260 --> 00:34:43.139 longer to be fair. It was funny to start off 00:34:43.139 --> 00:34:46.659 with And now it's just kind of like oh really 00:34:46.659 --> 00:34:49.059 dude. You've just ruined a really good match 00:34:49.059 --> 00:34:55.739 by involving yourself Yeah I think that was the 00:34:55.739 --> 00:34:58.219 bit that kind of made the Lyra and Becky match 00:34:58.219 --> 00:35:01.150 kind of pit them for it it was the fact del grande 00:35:01.150 --> 00:35:05.010 americano ruined this one like between the two 00:35:05.010 --> 00:35:07.690 of them if that was a clean sort of like no interference 00:35:07.690 --> 00:35:11.550 no no judgment day no no one's obviously you 00:35:11.550 --> 00:35:16.869 know finvalla carlito and uh jd mcdonough were 00:35:16.869 --> 00:35:20.789 tossed from ringside to the back as well which 00:35:20.789 --> 00:35:24.329 is the second time in two weeks they've been 00:35:24.329 --> 00:35:28.559 removed Yeah, so Judgment Day were kicked out 00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:32.619 from ringside during JD McDonagh's match on Raw. 00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:38.139 Return match. Which I think that was ugly against 00:35:38.139 --> 00:35:41.840 Penta as well. I believe it might have been, 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:47.659 you know. Sure it was. Penta has worked his way 00:35:47.659 --> 00:35:51.119 through the Judgment Day, he's had matches with 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:56.150 Finn Balor, Dom. and JD. So yeah, he's basically 00:35:56.150 --> 00:35:59.170 fought the entire judgment day. Carlito's already 00:35:59.170 --> 00:36:04.030 admitted on interviews online that he can't do 00:36:04.030 --> 00:36:07.230 it anymore. He's there to take a bump, but he 00:36:07.230 --> 00:36:09.329 can't do any of what he used to be able to do. 00:36:09.449 --> 00:36:13.949 His body's too fucked. Yeah. And that's the reality 00:36:13.949 --> 00:36:17.989 of the wrestling, fortunately, is that they are 00:36:17.989 --> 00:36:22.670 gonna... Keep going until they can't go no more. 00:36:22.670 --> 00:36:25.269 I'm not gonna lie to you though The role he has 00:36:25.269 --> 00:36:27.630 at the moment is fucking brilliant, right? He's 00:36:27.630 --> 00:36:31.170 getting paid top money to get speared occasionally 00:36:31.170 --> 00:36:34.909 and eat apples Right. He doesn't he don't take 00:36:34.909 --> 00:36:37.889 a lot of mass. He takes the bigger bumps, but 00:36:37.889 --> 00:36:41.409 they're every so often Not like two or three 00:36:41.409 --> 00:36:44.530 a night He gets like a gigantic spear once every 00:36:44.530 --> 00:36:46.889 six weeks that one that Bronbreaker hit him with 00:36:46.889 --> 00:36:53.239 was fucking filthy Yeah You know like so he can 00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:55.079 take those but you won't see him have a full 00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:56.940 match which I think is a real shame But he's 00:36:56.940 --> 00:36:59.659 still on a payday. He's getting paid top dollar 00:36:59.659 --> 00:37:02.599 It's got to be a bit of a piss -take to some 00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.300 of the guys like Carly O can't wrestle and is 00:37:05.300 --> 00:37:07.719 on TV Where they could have used someone who 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:11.800 can wrestle that could be on TV And got pay rise. 00:37:11.820 --> 00:37:15.039 Do you know what I mean? Yeah, the Caribbean 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.159 pool is just there like I'll take that money. 00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:20.130 Thank you very much Oh yeah, it's free money 00:37:20.130 --> 00:37:21.750 mate, why would you not? I'd do the same thing, 00:37:21.750 --> 00:37:30.909 right? I'd do the same thing without any formal 00:37:30.909 --> 00:37:34.809 freaking training to be quite honest, so yeah. 00:37:35.130 --> 00:37:40.730 Well done, I'll show speed. I'd have taken that 00:37:40.730 --> 00:37:42.750 100%, I'd have fucking regretted it afterwards. 00:37:42.750 --> 00:37:44.909 Oh mate, I think I'd have shit myself. If I'd 00:37:44.909 --> 00:37:46.849 have eaten that spear in the Voramble, I'd have 00:37:46.849 --> 00:37:50.139 shit myself. Talk about shitting themselves though 00:37:50.139 --> 00:37:52.619 right that leads quite nicely into the next much 00:37:52.619 --> 00:37:55.860 so after Dom retained is his Intercontinental 00:37:55.860 --> 00:38:00.139 title we had our I'm gonna call it the funny 00:38:00.139 --> 00:38:03.460 match of the night Because this was Gunther versus 00:38:03.460 --> 00:38:07.460 Pat McAfee because Gunther choked out part a 00:38:07.460 --> 00:38:11.599 few weeks ago after WrestleMania It was the roar 00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:17.420 after WrestleMania wouldn't it? honestly this 00:38:17.420 --> 00:38:22.320 match was just completely unnecessary I will 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.519 throw it out there though that Pat McAfee did 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:28.519 fucking well and his t -shirt had number one 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.920 motherfucker written on it yes it did which I 00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:37.280 thought was very well and he did as somebody 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.519 that is I mean I think we mentioned on one of 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.280 the on like the previous episode Pat McAfee's 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:47.750 what about 48? 38, yeah, somewhere around there. 00:38:48.630 --> 00:38:53.710 And the guy kept up, the guy managed to keep 00:38:53.710 --> 00:38:57.289 up and he took an absolute hammering. Oh, he 00:38:57.289 --> 00:39:00.710 did, but he did it so well. I saw some photographs 00:39:00.710 --> 00:39:04.710 on social media afterwards of his chest. Oh dear. 00:39:06.329 --> 00:39:09.469 Mate, his chest is nothing. It turns out that 00:39:09.469 --> 00:39:12.920 I've seen on social media. while we've been recording 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.659 that he's actually managed that Gunther's actually 00:39:15.659 --> 00:39:19.500 managed to pop a blood vessel in his eye. Holy 00:39:19.500 --> 00:39:26.159 crap. Yeah, so Pat McAfee took an absolute beating 00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:30.519 and kept coming back for more. I mean, even even 00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.019 like Michael Cole was dragged into the ring at 00:39:34.019 --> 00:39:40.079 one point. Right. Honestly, I just don't. That 00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:43.460 was a hell of a dropkick by Patlo to get Gunther 00:39:43.460 --> 00:39:47.460 off Michael Cole. Oh, yeah. Like for a guy who's 00:39:47.460 --> 00:39:49.539 not had a lot of professional training, right? 00:39:49.619 --> 00:39:51.780 He's obviously had enough to be able to do what 00:39:51.780 --> 00:39:56.920 he's got to do. But the timing of it, you'd thought 00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:02.039 he'd been doing it for years, bro. Like the way 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.039 he wrestled, you could have quite happily turned 00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:07.139 around and gone, dude, like that was really good. 00:40:07.309 --> 00:40:11.570 Do you want to do it again next week? I just 00:40:11.570 --> 00:40:15.289 don't think that Gunther was the right opponent 00:40:15.289 --> 00:40:20.269 to have Pat McAfee in the ring with because there 00:40:20.269 --> 00:40:22.250 was a certain there were certain points during 00:40:22.250 --> 00:40:25.730 that match where it was just it was it was a 00:40:25.730 --> 00:40:29.070 beat down it wasn't anything there was no match 00:40:29.070 --> 00:40:33.130 there was no back and forth it was Every time 00:40:33.130 --> 00:40:36.349 Pat McAfee started to get up, Gunther had kicked 00:40:36.349 --> 00:40:44.570 him back down again. There really was no need. 00:40:46.090 --> 00:40:48.789 That match could have been done in three minutes. 00:40:51.110 --> 00:40:53.469 And in fairness, I think the only reason it went 00:40:53.469 --> 00:40:56.849 on as long as it did was because they'd bumped 00:40:56.849 --> 00:41:01.510 the J .U. so much. I think this match got more 00:41:01.510 --> 00:41:04.650 minutes than it was intending to. And that's 00:41:04.650 --> 00:41:08.230 why they took, they had Gunther take a really 00:41:08.230 --> 00:41:12.110 slow pace. Yeah. And I think, I think they were 00:41:12.110 --> 00:41:14.869 going to give it a, like Jay a squash match where 00:41:14.869 --> 00:41:16.449 they were going to squash, he was going to squash 00:41:16.449 --> 00:41:19.670 the balls out of Logan Paul. Cause there wasn't 00:41:19.670 --> 00:41:22.289 a lot of time to fit in between that and the 00:41:22.289 --> 00:41:25.869 Randy Orton Cena match, which didn't feel like 00:41:25.869 --> 00:41:28.809 it stretched out too much. I think that time, 00:41:29.070 --> 00:41:32.889 So I think the Gunther -Pat McAfee match got 00:41:32.889 --> 00:41:36.170 more minutes than it was supposed to, and the 00:41:36.170 --> 00:41:40.289 John Cena -Randy Orton match that comes up after 00:41:40.289 --> 00:41:45.349 this one? Yes. So that comes up after this one. 00:41:45.710 --> 00:41:49.389 It's a case that that one got more minutes, but 00:41:49.389 --> 00:41:54.489 you're talking about two veterans of the game. 00:41:57.010 --> 00:42:00.010 These two were given extra minutes and they made 00:42:00.010 --> 00:42:07.070 each minute count. Gunther obviously won the 00:42:07.070 --> 00:42:10.389 match. There was never any way that the ring 00:42:10.389 --> 00:42:12.510 general was not going to walk out of that with 00:42:12.510 --> 00:42:15.889 a win. That would have destroyed what credibility 00:42:15.889 --> 00:42:33.639 he had left. So They've done the right thing 00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:38.320 in Giving Gunther the win because it protects 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:43.380 his character But the match itself completely 00:42:43.380 --> 00:42:50.500 unnecessary However my personal pick for match 00:42:50.500 --> 00:42:53.690 of the match of the card and again I said it 00:42:53.690 --> 00:42:56.869 earlier on it's only because of how nostalgic 00:42:56.869 --> 00:43:00.989 it was was the undisputed WWE Championship match 00:43:00.989 --> 00:43:04.590 which sees the current champ John heel turn Cena 00:43:04.590 --> 00:43:10.789 versus Randy the Viper Orton it's weird seeing 00:43:10.789 --> 00:43:16.349 Randy as a face Randy himself has said in interview 00:43:16.349 --> 00:43:20.699 that it was weird to be seen as a face against 00:43:20.699 --> 00:43:24.440 John Cena. He is not used to being cheered against 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.780 John Cena. It was weird for him. It's strange 00:43:27.780 --> 00:43:30.159 for the fans too. I'm not going to lie. Like 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.159 normally you cheer Cena, you boo Orton. And now 00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:34.480 it's the other way around. You're like, I don't 00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:39.900 want to boo Cena. Why am I booing Cena? He's 00:43:39.900 --> 00:43:44.079 the good guy. No, no he's not. I mean, I've always 00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.239 found it difficult between these two as it is. 00:43:46.659 --> 00:43:52.039 He's not a good bad guy. John Cena was the He 00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:56.000 was everybody's favorite Everybody had whether 00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:59.099 they admitted it or not. It was a case that everybody's 00:43:59.099 --> 00:44:03.039 favorite was John Cena and It's a case that Randy 00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:06.260 Orton always looked like there's something that's 00:44:06.260 --> 00:44:10.300 always appealed to me about his psychopathic 00:44:10.300 --> 00:44:14.460 tendencies those voices in his head are Yeah 00:44:16.349 --> 00:44:19.010 I'd love to know what the voices say sometimes. 00:44:20.289 --> 00:44:22.630 I don't think we'd want to know. I don't think 00:44:22.630 --> 00:44:24.289 we'd be able to look at it. I don't think we'd 00:44:24.289 --> 00:44:27.369 be able to look the viper in the eye anytime 00:44:27.369 --> 00:44:31.289 soon. And honestly, I think there were a few 00:44:31.289 --> 00:44:34.010 refs and execs that probably didn't feel, didn't 00:44:34.010 --> 00:44:35.809 really want to be in the ring with them either 00:44:35.809 --> 00:44:41.630 at this point. I can understand that. Yeah, because 00:44:41.630 --> 00:44:44.849 don't get me wrong. I mean, these two have always 00:44:44.849 --> 00:44:48.670 put on phenomenal matches and considering how 00:44:48.670 --> 00:44:52.469 old they are now they didn't skimp it was a case 00:44:52.469 --> 00:44:55.949 that this was every bit the match that it needed 00:44:55.949 --> 00:45:02.869 to be definitely and it also did a quite a good 00:45:02.869 --> 00:45:06.349 job for setting up what I believe is going to 00:45:06.349 --> 00:45:11.769 be John Cena like the next John Cena target well 00:45:11.769 --> 00:45:16.820 I don't I don't know who's next. Who do we want 00:45:16.820 --> 00:45:20.539 to be next? Well, based on the match that we 00:45:20.539 --> 00:45:24.820 had, it was a case that so we could take you 00:45:24.820 --> 00:45:26.739 through blow by blow. But honestly, that's not 00:45:26.739 --> 00:45:29.340 what the podcast is. It's not. We're not here 00:45:29.340 --> 00:45:33.559 as audio description for WWE matches. We used 00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:37.559 to. We changed. We used to be. Yeah, no, we've 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.500 evolved. But yeah, at one point, Randy Orton 00:45:42.500 --> 00:45:46.000 has seen a leveled for a punt kick and it was 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:49.980 going to be a beautiful fucking punt kick. Oh 00:45:49.980 --> 00:45:53.019 yes. If it weren't for our truth getting in the 00:45:53.019 --> 00:45:58.019 way. Well, he also gets put through the table 00:45:58.019 --> 00:46:01.920 in the interview afterwards, doesn't he? He does, 00:46:02.179 --> 00:46:06.239 yes. I personally haven't seen the clip but I 00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:08.980 know the clip exists. I've seen the clip, I think 00:46:08.980 --> 00:46:13.250 I was too tired. to appreciate it and i just 00:46:13.250 --> 00:46:19.309 haven't seen it since no which is fair enough 00:46:19.309 --> 00:46:24.030 but it's a case that yes the i think there is 00:46:24.030 --> 00:46:26.469 a very strong possibility we're going to be seeing 00:46:26.469 --> 00:46:32.809 our truth taking on john cena for the wwe championship 00:46:32.809 --> 00:46:35.670 and me and you have talked about this already 00:46:35.670 --> 00:46:39.030 it is a case that it would be and that wants 00:46:39.030 --> 00:46:42.139 truth to have that title Even if it's just for 00:46:42.139 --> 00:46:47.380 a few weeks man until like the next person Like 00:46:47.380 --> 00:46:49.579 in line gets it. But yeah, I'd love to see him 00:46:49.579 --> 00:46:51.599 with a little title run slightly longer than 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:58.179 Kofi Kingston's last one would be preferable 00:46:58.179 --> 00:47:02.800 Yeah, it's a case that I just want to see it 00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.179 it would be a phenomenal tip of the cap to our 00:47:07.179 --> 00:47:12.019 truth who Realistically, if he continues getting 00:47:12.019 --> 00:47:14.619 involved the way he is, he doesn't have long 00:47:14.619 --> 00:47:20.340 left on his career. No. But fair play to him, 00:47:20.739 --> 00:47:23.679 Mike. He's still killing it. R -Truth is always 00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:25.480 going to be a fan favourite. That guy is going 00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.420 into the Hall of Fame. I tell you this now, R 00:47:28.420 --> 00:47:30.019 -Truth is going to be a Hall of Fame all day. 00:47:34.019 --> 00:47:39.440 Yeah, it's just for his loyalty. Oh, 100%. He's 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.940 been there pretty much since day one. Yeah, he 00:47:41.940 --> 00:47:46.500 did do a stint with, I think it was WCW, ECW 00:47:46.500 --> 00:47:50.800 maybe? He did a stint with TNA as well. Did he? 00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:57.679 Yeah. Ron Killings was in TNA. I was going to 00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:59.760 say he's been pretty fucking loyal, the dirty 00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:05.820 bastard. No, he's been at WWE a long time. He 00:48:05.820 --> 00:48:10.519 has. And he has worn many caps during that time. 00:48:10.699 --> 00:48:13.360 Oh, yeah, definitely. The Little Jimmy stuff 00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:16.440 will go down as a fan favourite for a long time. 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:21.559 Oh, 100%. Could we see Little Jimmy, our truth, 00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:25.679 come back against Cena? That could be cool. No, 00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:29.559 I don't think we will. Our truth is very much 00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.880 he's not going to go back to a gimmick he's done 00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:35.739 before. Not for one night only against Cena. 00:48:36.750 --> 00:48:42.130 No, I don't think he will But not gonna lie. 00:48:42.130 --> 00:48:47.550 It's a case that Yeah between our truth get our 00:48:47.550 --> 00:48:50.110 truth getting an arc. I think our truth got an 00:48:50.110 --> 00:48:54.710 RKO I think said I think Nick Aldis got an RKO 00:48:54.710 --> 00:48:59.969 several other Officials got RKO's as well. Yeah, 00:49:00.130 --> 00:49:03.929 but there was an RKO party in the ring. Oh, yes 00:49:04.680 --> 00:49:08.099 So we know Randy Alton's already already earned 00:49:08.099 --> 00:49:10.380 himself another fine, which he is not prepaid 00:49:10.380 --> 00:49:15.159 for That was some great storytelling that was 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:23.340 I Didn't think they'd ever actually I mean we 00:49:23.340 --> 00:49:25.719 knew it was gonna happen But we I think everyone 00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:29.420 had assumed that that RKO was coming like within 00:49:29.420 --> 00:49:34.369 the next week or so Not then not there for them 00:49:34.369 --> 00:49:38.210 to hold for them to hold on to that for two years 00:49:38.210 --> 00:49:41.849 and then come back with it it was yeah phenomenal 00:49:41.849 --> 00:49:45.650 bit of storytelling but it's one of the things 00:49:45.650 --> 00:49:49.429 that both Borden and Sena are known for yes and 00:49:49.429 --> 00:49:54.250 will always be known for oh yes um it's a case 00:49:54.250 --> 00:49:58.400 that i mean again we're not gonna sort of drill 00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:01.699 down into too much detail with it because realistically 00:50:01.699 --> 00:50:03.900 you've got to watch this match to experience 00:50:03.900 --> 00:50:08.420 it properly yeah you'll enjoy it as well it's 00:50:08.420 --> 00:50:12.659 a good match for the full appreciation i do genuinely 00:50:12.659 --> 00:50:16.739 believe that you've got to you've got to have 00:50:16.739 --> 00:50:19.420 an idea at least of what these guys have been 00:50:19.420 --> 00:50:23.000 through in their career 25 years these guys have 00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:25.460 been facing off against one another on and off 00:50:25.460 --> 00:50:28.050 yeah we've had something brutal matches there 00:50:28.050 --> 00:50:34.010 was a few I quit matches there's been uh in all 00:50:34.010 --> 00:50:36.369 sorts there's been that many I can't even think 00:50:36.369 --> 00:50:42.690 about them yeah it's it's they're forever going 00:50:42.690 --> 00:50:45.250 to be synonymous with one another and rightly 00:50:45.250 --> 00:50:50.909 so oh definitely um but I think we've sort of 00:50:50.909 --> 00:50:53.610 found our way to the end of backlash here dude 00:50:53.610 --> 00:50:57.750 yeah no I would agree with you there dude So 00:50:57.750 --> 00:51:01.949 I think for me, that's everything, and I will 00:51:01.949 --> 00:51:04.610 see you on Finishes and Factions does Monday 00:51:04.610 --> 00:51:09.789 Night Raw. Well, we would do. It'll be a case 00:51:09.789 --> 00:51:11.989 that we'll see you on Finishes and Factions next 00:51:11.989 --> 00:51:15.789 week, guys. Remember, new format. We're doing 00:51:15.789 --> 00:51:18.590 episodes including Monday Night Raw, NXT, and 00:51:18.590 --> 00:51:21.449 SmackDown, one episode a week, folks. So stay 00:51:21.449 --> 00:51:24.670 tuned. Peace. Peace.