WEBVTT 00:00:30.739 --> 00:00:34.000 Right, I said I'd let you know in a second and 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:37.700 that second has been and gone. So our next match 00:00:37.700 --> 00:00:42.500 is between the phenomenal one, Mr. AJ Styles 00:00:42.500 --> 00:00:46.439 and some guy they found on YouTube. I think his 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:50.859 name's Logan Paul. But yeah, it was definitely, 00:00:51.100 --> 00:00:57.000 this was a grudge match. This was just more of 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.460 a standard. should have been a Monday Night Raw 00:00:59.460 --> 00:01:02.679 match, but made it to WrestleMania for me. Adam, 00:01:02.700 --> 00:01:07.060 what did you think of this one? I mean, I'm not 00:01:07.060 --> 00:01:10.099 a huge fan of Logan Paul. I've been quite vocal 00:01:10.099 --> 00:01:16.439 about him on previous episodes. It is a case 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:20.060 that Karrion Kross sums this up for me really 00:01:20.060 --> 00:01:22.079 nicely is that he seems to have a real issue 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:25.200 with Logan Paul, as we've seen in some of the 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:29.219 run up to to this match moving forward it's uh 00:01:29.219 --> 00:01:32.879 and yeah I don't think I'm entirely unjustified 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:37.439 in it but opening VT uh for this match basically 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:41.739 paints AJ Styles as the wise veteran which I 00:01:41.739 --> 00:01:44.319 suppose you know what he is he's he's been in 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:46.959 the industry what a hell of a lot longer than 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:52.340 I think anybody really realizes um and uh yeah 00:01:52.340 --> 00:01:59.060 it's a case that we've It then sees like Logan 00:01:59.060 --> 00:02:03.879 Paul it then paints Logan Paul as a How do we 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:08.460 describe it? Like a talented but conceited upstart 00:02:08.460 --> 00:02:14.680 he is very he is very aware of how Talented he 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.080 is and I have to say that through gritted teeth 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:21.699 because it really it makes me urge wanting to 00:02:21.699 --> 00:02:27.159 having to give that guy any form of credit. Just 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:31.180 based on the fact that he's, yeah, he is a conceited 00:02:31.180 --> 00:02:36.379 douchebag. It is exactly what, exactly as advertised. 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:39.379 Made me sick they gave him a title and I'll tell 00:02:39.379 --> 00:02:43.780 you. If you want to devalue a title so much, 00:02:43.860 --> 00:02:50.139 just give it straight to Logan Paul. Yeah, I 00:02:50.139 --> 00:02:53.960 don't understand that either. Yeah, I know that 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:56.340 he's there and he's supposed to be hated but 00:02:56.340 --> 00:02:58.319 I think they could post him as a babyface and 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:02.400 I'd still fucking hate him. And obviously my 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:04.479 issue... They could make him the champ that runs 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:08.860 the camp and I'd still call him a bellend. Yeah, 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:13.900 pretty much. And my issue has been, isn't that 00:03:13.900 --> 00:03:17.039 he's this incredibly talented person that's taking 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:19.800 something away from somebody else because... 00:03:20.030 --> 00:03:24.430 No, I fully acknowledge he is an incredibly talented 00:03:24.430 --> 00:03:26.889 human being and that that just makes him more 00:03:26.889 --> 00:03:30.710 Frustrating is the fact that he is good at this 00:03:30.710 --> 00:03:34.490 It's the fact that he was a youtuber man like 00:03:34.490 --> 00:03:38.330 He just bought his ticket to WWE and bought himself 00:03:38.330 --> 00:03:42.449 a ticket to WrestleMania Yeah, and that's exactly 00:03:42.449 --> 00:03:48.009 it it's not the case that he is He's not talented 00:03:48.009 --> 00:03:52.650 or anything like that Quite the opposite. I can 00:03:52.650 --> 00:03:55.870 acknowledge how talented he is. My issue with 00:03:55.870 --> 00:04:01.669 him comes purely that he is... Just as Rich has 00:04:01.669 --> 00:04:05.050 said, he's bought his way into WWE. He's not 00:04:05.050 --> 00:04:07.210 got there through the indies. He's not worked 00:04:07.210 --> 00:04:10.930 his way up the ladder. And yeah, it fucks me 00:04:10.930 --> 00:04:13.780 off because... There are so many other talented 00:04:13.780 --> 00:04:16.339 individuals that could have worked their way 00:04:16.339 --> 00:04:19.399 up to the WWE roster, but now have to contend 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:22.360 with people that can just sort of buy their way 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:25.540 in. I mean, if I take out a big enough bank loan, 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:29.160 can I buy my way to WrestleMania? I'd pay to 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:33.279 see you eat a Brombreaker spear at WrestleMania. 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:38.240 I'd even start a GoFundMe for it. I would take 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:42.339 that. I would 100 % take that spear like an absolute 00:04:42.339 --> 00:04:46.620 champ. If it meant that I had my WrestleMania 00:04:46.620 --> 00:04:50.100 moment. Yeah, don't blame me to be fair. I'd 00:04:50.100 --> 00:04:52.980 probably do the same thing. Yeah, fucking right 00:04:52.980 --> 00:04:58.120 you would. None of this maybe shit. It would 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.220 definitely fucking happen. I mean a few things 00:05:01.220 --> 00:05:03.899 that definitely did happen was at the start of 00:05:03.899 --> 00:05:07.139 this match Logan Paul sending AJ into the apron 00:05:07.139 --> 00:05:10.959 and then back into the ring and then there was 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:14.620 a where AJ shoulder blocks Logan Paul and then 00:05:14.620 --> 00:05:21.160 hits a quick drop kick but it doesn't last for 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:24.420 long as Logan Paul kicks AJ off the apron into 00:05:24.420 --> 00:05:28.310 the announce table and then jumps over Where 00:05:28.310 --> 00:05:31.829 as Logan Paul jumps over the ropes AJ uses the 00:05:31.829 --> 00:05:34.709 apron to tie him up and just starts brutally 00:05:34.709 --> 00:05:37.990 chopping him in the chest The fact he got away 00:05:37.990 --> 00:05:40.790 with that such old -school trick and this was 00:05:40.790 --> 00:05:42.870 basically like what the story they were trying 00:05:42.870 --> 00:05:46.009 to tell Is that AJ's been doing this for longer 00:05:46.009 --> 00:05:49.110 than some of us have been? You know breathing 00:05:49.110 --> 00:05:52.930 oxygen Logan Paul may have learned a few tricks 00:05:52.930 --> 00:05:55.470 off a few people that he's faced so far But he 00:05:55.470 --> 00:05:57.850 doesn't know them all and Logan Paul caught got 00:05:57.850 --> 00:06:01.410 caught out By AJ using the apron as a weapon, 00:06:01.569 --> 00:06:06.689 which is not something you see an awful lot No, 00:06:06.709 --> 00:06:11.110 this is it but again one of the things that makes 00:06:11.110 --> 00:06:14.069 Logan Paul so very frustrating in the wrestling 00:06:14.069 --> 00:06:18.129 game is that He's not only talented, but he's 00:06:18.129 --> 00:06:22.470 an incredibly quick learner Because I'm almost 00:06:22.470 --> 00:06:26.170 positive I remember Logan Paul doing Exactly 00:06:26.170 --> 00:06:29.509 that back to AJ Styles later on in the match. 00:06:29.509 --> 00:06:35.910 He does he does Actually Sort of fairly towards 00:06:35.910 --> 00:06:38.870 the end. I believe it's not in the notes that 00:06:38.870 --> 00:06:42.209 I can see and I've got a full page of notes up 00:06:42.209 --> 00:06:53.509 But yeah After AJ uses the apron to jam up Logan 00:06:53.509 --> 00:06:56.290 Paul, I've got noted down here that Paul sends 00:06:56.290 --> 00:07:00.089 AJ into two ring posts. So one's bad enough, 00:07:00.129 --> 00:07:06.730 but being sent into two is not fun. It's slightly 00:07:06.730 --> 00:07:13.870 unfair. Not too pleasant. Definitely not. We 00:07:13.870 --> 00:07:17.769 did see that. So after AJ fell off. to the outside 00:07:17.769 --> 00:07:20.110 after being bounced into those two ring posts 00:07:20.110 --> 00:07:22.769 Logan Paul hit him with a springboard crossbody 00:07:22.769 --> 00:07:27.209 and then Logan Paul bounced AJ off the Spanish 00:07:27.209 --> 00:07:31.029 announce table the ring apron and then breaks 00:07:31.029 --> 00:07:34.889 the the count at five so he was being held I 00:07:34.889 --> 00:07:38.629 believe for the oh no it was they were both on 00:07:38.629 --> 00:07:40.629 the outside so he rolled into the ring to break 00:07:40.629 --> 00:07:44.310 the count and then comes back out to tie AJ up 00:07:44.310 --> 00:07:49.449 in the apron and then Logan Paul manages to pull 00:07:49.449 --> 00:07:53.430 off a new move or a move that has been renamed 00:07:53.430 --> 00:07:57.170 into a pull from Grace for a two count, which 00:07:57.170 --> 00:08:02.990 is basically just a coup de grace. And then he 00:08:02.990 --> 00:08:05.370 hits. I'm sort of surprised they went with that 00:08:05.370 --> 00:08:09.230 considering the fall from Grace. Isn't that, 00:08:09.329 --> 00:08:13.370 I want to say, one of Ober Femi's moves? It is, 00:08:13.529 --> 00:08:21.399 yes. and then he went from the pull from grace 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:26.879 in the two count into an overbomb which was basically 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:32.500 a suplex with a little bit extra to it it's a 00:08:32.500 --> 00:08:35.600 really suplex that should be a powerbomb realistically 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:38.500 it's almost as if he takes him up for a powerbomb 00:08:38.500 --> 00:08:41.700 but ends up sort of overshooting him a little 00:08:41.700 --> 00:08:48.740 bit yeah And yeah, so called a called an overbomb 00:08:48.740 --> 00:08:56.120 Yeah, and Paul continues on with his With his 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:00.059 offense as AJ tries to fight back Paul hits a 00:09:00.059 --> 00:09:04.039 moonsault And honestly this match at this stage 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:06.600 starts to look a little bit like a fucking mugging. 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:11.990 I'm not gonna lie I'm pretty sure if AJ had bought 00:09:11.990 --> 00:09:15.549 his wallet and his keys out that Logan Paul probably 00:09:15.549 --> 00:09:17.669 would have taken them and gone and helped himself 00:09:17.669 --> 00:09:20.490 to his fucking wife to be quite honest. Well 00:09:20.490 --> 00:09:22.830 Logan Paul is a bit of an asshole for stuff like 00:09:22.830 --> 00:09:26.149 that so yeah he probably would have done. Yeah 00:09:26.149 --> 00:09:31.330 this is it. Now AJ Styles does start building 00:09:31.330 --> 00:09:34.509 some momentum but it doesn't seem to last very 00:09:34.509 --> 00:09:39.440 long. um as aj goes up for the phenomenal forearm 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:45.659 um paul ends up fucking catching him and uh hits 00:09:45.659 --> 00:09:49.279 a rolling senton into quite an impressive lion 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:53.279 salt as well for a pin but only gets a two count 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:57.240 i got that lion salt lion salt isn't something 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:59.399 you see very often it was something that chris 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:04.470 jericho used to do quite a lot um But now he's 00:10:04.470 --> 00:10:08.490 he's fat and old and works for the competition 00:10:08.490 --> 00:10:12.029 and we don't watch him Yeah, this is it. Who's 00:10:12.029 --> 00:10:15.549 Chris Jericho again? Lead singer of Fozzy, isn't 00:10:15.549 --> 00:10:19.870 it? It's that guy everyone used to call y2j Yeah 00:10:19.870 --> 00:10:24.889 Used to carry around a list I believe Yes, the 00:10:24.889 --> 00:10:27.029 one person who was actually a legitimate friend 00:10:27.029 --> 00:10:30.269 of Kevin Owens until Kevin Owens also made the 00:10:30.269 --> 00:10:42.769 list But yeah, Logan Paul does dominate a good 00:10:42.769 --> 00:10:47.970 portion of this match and then I would understand 00:10:47.970 --> 00:10:51.750 what happens next if it were a case that Logan 00:10:51.750 --> 00:10:54.110 Paul had been losing for a good majority of the 00:10:54.110 --> 00:10:57.169 match, but it's pointed out to us by commentary 00:10:57.169 --> 00:11:01.049 to begin with that Logan Paul's manager Jeff 00:11:01.049 --> 00:11:05.590 Full is sneaking around the outside of the ring 00:11:05.590 --> 00:11:10.009 gripping white knuckle white white knuckle gripping 00:11:10.009 --> 00:11:14.629 a set of brass knucks He was definitely out to 00:11:14.629 --> 00:11:16.429 cause some damage with those we'll make sure 00:11:16.429 --> 00:11:20.049 that Logan caused some damage with those Which 00:11:20.049 --> 00:11:24.350 makes absolutely no set I mean I Logan Paul using 00:11:24.350 --> 00:11:26.690 brass knuckles seems a bit redundant considering. 00:11:26.730 --> 00:11:33.149 He's got a steel plate in his hand Yep So using 00:11:33.149 --> 00:11:36.029 brass knuckles seems a bit It does seem very 00:11:36.029 --> 00:11:39.129 redundant plus the fact that Logan Paul was winning 00:11:39.129 --> 00:11:43.009 the match anyway He wasn't in dire straits, which 00:11:43.009 --> 00:11:49.559 is normally when we see Now thankfully Logan 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:51.899 Paul never actually got hold of the brass knuckles 00:11:51.899 --> 00:11:59.039 and this was all in count with Carrion Cross 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:02.759 who appeared at Ringside with Scarlet to catch 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:06.899 Jeff Full trying to give the brass knucks over 00:12:06.899 --> 00:12:13.720 to Logan Paul. Now this act of charity is uncharacteristic 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:19.919 for Carrion only because any sort of He very 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:24.639 much Well carrying cross has been winding AJ 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.220 up for a little while in the He's been having 00:12:28.220 --> 00:12:30.600 a few little playing a few little mind games 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:34.399 with AJ Styles the last few weeks Well, he's 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:36.659 been trying to bring out the darker side of AJ 00:12:36.659 --> 00:12:41.379 Styles, hasn't he really it's The AJ we all want 00:12:41.379 --> 00:12:51.019 to watch Is it though I was always Heel AJ Styles 00:12:51.019 --> 00:12:58.000 is a bitch 100 % Stone -cold fucking bitch and 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:02.860 and he frustrates me no end because Heel AJ Styles 00:13:02.860 --> 00:13:06.720 does not live up to his live up to his potential 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:16.759 at all Whereas face AJ Styles is a lot more Yeah, 00:13:16.779 --> 00:13:22.990 it puts a lot more hard work into it That's my 00:13:22.990 --> 00:13:26.110 opinion anyway, I mean fair play I can fully 00:13:26.110 --> 00:13:35.549 get behind that Yeah, but carrying cross ends 00:13:35.549 --> 00:13:38.470 up confiscating the brass knuckles from Jeff 00:13:38.470 --> 00:13:42.389 full AJ sends Jeff full careening across the 00:13:42.389 --> 00:13:49.110 arena And yeah, we don't really see much from 00:13:49.110 --> 00:13:53.009 him at all. But Carrion ends up getting into 00:13:53.009 --> 00:13:59.470 a bit of an argument with AJ on the outside of 00:13:59.470 --> 00:14:02.029 the ring, trying to convince him, begging him, 00:14:02.289 --> 00:14:06.389 pleading with him to use the brass knuckles to 00:14:06.389 --> 00:14:10.009 win the match with Logan Paul. But he was not 00:14:10.009 --> 00:14:13.559 having any of it, was he? No really wasn't and 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:17.159 I can't say that I blame him either because Yeah, 00:14:17.259 --> 00:14:20.860 that wouldn't have been the way to win that match 00:14:20.860 --> 00:14:25.919 against Logan if you're trying to Show that the 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:29.720 best way to come up in The best way to come up 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:33.039 in the in the industry is to come up the way 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.659 that everybody did before you not buy your way 00:14:35.659 --> 00:14:41.320 in but in those Jews Pay those dues. It's a case 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:44.659 that the last thing you want to do as the veteran 00:14:44.659 --> 00:14:48.700 fighting for that side of the story is to then 00:14:48.700 --> 00:14:51.720 Win by cheating. Yeah, you don't want to do the 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:56.620 most heel thing you can and win that way No, 00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:02.679 this is it so yeah AJ's AJ basically says no 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:08.419 to To the brass knuckles ends up cold cocking 00:15:09.129 --> 00:15:15.149 Carry and cross and Yeah, basically goes and 00:15:15.149 --> 00:15:18.409 sets up for a phenomenal forearm, but misses 00:15:18.409 --> 00:15:24.129 and Speaking of that metal left hand ends up 00:15:24.129 --> 00:15:28.769 getting hit with AJ gets hit with that and then 00:15:28.769 --> 00:15:33.529 slides into a pulverizer which again Pains me 00:15:33.529 --> 00:15:38.350 to admit but is a I really like effective it's 00:15:38.350 --> 00:15:42.330 so effective and yeah just so nice to watch and 00:15:42.330 --> 00:15:46.509 yeah again it is not a fun thing to have to admit 00:15:46.509 --> 00:15:49.389 you know what this entire segment has made me 00:15:49.389 --> 00:15:51.230 realize there's a lot of things about professional 00:15:51.230 --> 00:15:53.210 wrestling i don't like and to make my for my 00:15:53.210 --> 00:15:56.570 own insecurities i need wwe to do an alberto 00:15:56.570 --> 00:15:59.269 del rio on at logan paul and i need him to fire 00:15:59.269 --> 00:16:02.490 his ass i hate having to admit that i enjoy watching 00:16:02.490 --> 00:16:07.360 some of his things because yeah I just don't 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:09.879 like the guy winds me up, but he is slightly 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:16.299 entertaining. Yeah, and this is it. Especially 00:16:16.299 --> 00:16:19.440 when it's compared to people like The Miz, who 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:23.179 is also slightly entertaining on the right day, 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:28.700 but not for more than five minutes. Thing is, 00:16:28.820 --> 00:16:31.080 though, is that The Miz didn't buy his way in. 00:16:31.340 --> 00:16:34.879 No, he definitely worked his way to get there. 00:16:35.500 --> 00:16:38.340 There's just, yeah, there's a few people that 00:16:38.340 --> 00:16:45.019 I'd like to see no longer in WWE, but that is 00:16:45.019 --> 00:16:48.519 purely for my own selfish reasons. Yeah, this 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:54.480 is it. Now, next section after this was a WrestleMania 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:58.299 by the numbers. Now, I'm not sure if Rich would 00:16:58.299 --> 00:17:00.200 have picked up on any of this, if I'm honest, 00:17:00.580 --> 00:17:05.660 but - according to this little info this infomercial 00:17:05.660 --> 00:17:10.640 that we got it was a case that over 41 I think 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:17.039 it was over 40 or 41 WrestleMania's we've had 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:25.779 421 total matches involving 456 unique individuals 00:17:25.779 --> 00:17:33.039 that's a lot now The individual with the most 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:39.920 WrestleMania matches is The Undertaker. Yes 23 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:53.680 20 27 About 27 matches at Mania and Yeah, WrestleMania 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:58.940 has been broadcast from 26 different cities I'm 00:17:58.940 --> 00:18:02.440 intrigued I went by one thing with that Undertaker 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:06.380 statistic, and that's if things like last year's 00:18:06.380 --> 00:18:09.119 WrestleMania where he made that 30 second appearance 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:12.359 in Chokeslam Rock, if that counts, is if that 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:15.099 does, that's naughty. That's not even a proper 00:18:15.099 --> 00:18:19.359 match, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I can understand 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:21.359 where you're coming from with it. It might be. 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.740 I'm not 100 % sure. I didn't drill down into 00:18:24.740 --> 00:18:27.940 the app, like the nitty gritty detail for it. 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:31.000 Mostly because the next piece of information 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:33.380 I had to go looking for completely on my own 00:18:33.380 --> 00:18:37.720 Because I wanted to know which city had hosted 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:42.099 the most The most WrestleMania's and it's actually 00:18:42.099 --> 00:18:46.200 a four -way tie. I think one of them is Seattle 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:50.880 Nope one of them, New York Yes, one of them is 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:53.220 New York because New York hosted WrestleMania 00:18:53.220 --> 00:19:03.049 1 10 and 20 Las Vegas has done 2. That was 9 00:19:03.049 --> 00:19:09.769 and 41. That doesn't feature in this list. Instead 00:19:09.769 --> 00:19:11.630 of sitting here and playing the guessing game 00:19:11.630 --> 00:19:15.910 I'll let you know. New York City was 1, hosting 00:19:15.910 --> 00:19:22.490 1, 10 and 20. Los Angeles also hosted 3, being 00:19:22.490 --> 00:19:32.480 2, 7 and 21. Orlando Florida hosted 24 33 and 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:38.880 36 and Rosemont Illinois hosted WrestleMania 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:44.180 2 13 and 22 never even heard of Rosemont but 00:19:44.180 --> 00:19:46.779 the the rest of them I probably would have got 00:19:46.779 --> 00:19:51.079 within the next five or six guesses anyway possibly 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:55.230 the interesting thing is is that I actually had 00:19:55.230 --> 00:19:59.849 to look into this is that There was one WrestleMania 00:19:59.849 --> 00:20:04.250 number that showed up twice in that list Ironically. 00:20:04.849 --> 00:20:10.670 Yes, and that was WrestleMania 2 And the reason 00:20:10.670 --> 00:20:14.289 it shows up as because the WrestleMania 2 was 00:20:14.289 --> 00:20:20.940 actually split over three different cities One 00:20:20.940 --> 00:20:23.380 of them was, so part of it took place in Los 00:20:23.380 --> 00:20:26.880 Angeles. Another part was in Rosemont, Illinois. 00:20:27.700 --> 00:20:30.160 And there was another city and I can't remember 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:34.900 what city it was. Fuck. I was doing so well. 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:43.420 You were? You Michael Coldip? I did. I did. Give 00:20:43.420 --> 00:20:48.180 me a second. I will get there. That's what he's 00:20:48.180 --> 00:20:50.950 told a few women as well. Finishers and Factions 00:20:50.950 --> 00:20:53.470 fans, don't you worry. Give me a second, it will 00:20:53.470 --> 00:20:59.049 get there. Screw you. No thank you. Nobody likes 00:20:59.049 --> 00:21:09.609 you. Nope. No they do not. Come on Adam, where 00:21:09.609 --> 00:21:12.559 was it? The event took place at three venues 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:16.019 on the same day. The Nassau Veterans Memorial 00:21:16.019 --> 00:21:19.920 Coliseum in Uniondale, New York, the Rosemont 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:24.319 Horizon in the Chicago suburb of Rosemont, Illinois, 00:21:25.059 --> 00:21:28.859 and the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena in 00:21:28.859 --> 00:21:33.319 Los Angeles, California. Oh, nicely done. I didn't 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.279 know that. If you did Finishers and Factions 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:37.500 fans, let us know. You can get in contact with 00:21:37.500 --> 00:21:41.650 us via email. That is finishes and factions at 00:21:41.650 --> 00:21:46.289 gmail .com. Or you can now find this on TikTok, 00:21:46.549 --> 00:21:52.690 which is at Finn and Fan Pod for TikTok. And 00:21:52.690 --> 00:21:59.509 we also are now on X2. And on X we are known 00:21:59.509 --> 00:22:05.359 as. Finishes as that's at Finn and fan pod as 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:09.859 well. So at Finn and fan pod on all your socials 00:22:09.859 --> 00:22:16.579 to find the finishes and factions podcast Yes, 00:22:16.819 --> 00:22:20.200 we most certainly are but that was that was WrestleMania 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:22.680 by the numbers The only other thing that I will 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:24.819 let you know of before we go into the next match 00:22:24.819 --> 00:22:28.660 is the celebs that were That we were introduced 00:22:28.660 --> 00:22:34.690 to here at this stage So one of them was Vanessa 00:22:34.690 --> 00:22:38.990 Hudgens. Vanessa Hudgens, I actually am aware 00:22:38.990 --> 00:22:43.609 of who this is. She starred in the High School 00:22:43.609 --> 00:22:48.470 Musical films. She is also an avid WWE fan, which 00:22:48.470 --> 00:22:51.170 is always a surprise. You know her more from 00:22:51.170 --> 00:22:55.529 High School Musical, surely, right? I mean, I've 00:22:55.529 --> 00:23:02.940 never been to a WWE event, so I wouldn't. That 00:23:02.940 --> 00:23:09.319 hooked me up. So, one of the other celebrities 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:15.140 was Rana Dagubar. Never heard of them. He's an 00:23:15.140 --> 00:23:20.680 actor. Terence Crawford, the unified welterweight 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:24.359 champion and WBA junior middleweight champion, 00:23:24.859 --> 00:23:29.720 apparently has a 41 -0 record. Blimey. That's 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:33.700 quite an impressive feat. Just in case you weren't 00:23:33.700 --> 00:23:38.640 aware and and Quavo Quavo I recognize I couldn't 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:41.099 tell you what unless it was written down in front 00:23:41.099 --> 00:23:44.220 of me, which quite luckily it is I wouldn't be 00:23:44.220 --> 00:23:46.420 able to tell you what it was he was famous for 00:23:46.420 --> 00:23:49.839 but apparently he is a multi -platinum rapper 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:54.519 songwriter and record producer That is what Wikipedia 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:56.900 says to apart from it says that his real name 00:23:56.900 --> 00:24:02.329 is Quavius K8A Marshall I think Quavo is easier 00:24:02.329 --> 00:24:05.069 to pronounce actually. So we'll stick with Quavo. 00:24:06.390 --> 00:24:09.950 But yes, we go from there into our next match. 00:24:10.289 --> 00:24:13.869 We certainly do. Right. And without further ado, 00:24:13.990 --> 00:24:18.750 we'll jump straight in. So our next match is 00:24:18.750 --> 00:24:23.809 not going to go slightly how it was built. As 00:24:23.809 --> 00:24:27.859 one of our participants, Bailey, was brutally 00:24:27.859 --> 00:24:32.180 attacked in the pre -show for night one of WrestleMania. 00:24:33.099 --> 00:24:37.160 Which means that her tag partner Lyra of Alcaria 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:41.380 does not have a tag partner for this match. So 00:24:41.380 --> 00:24:47.099 she we discover has found a replacement. So we 00:24:47.099 --> 00:24:50.960 see Liv Morgan and Raquel Rodriguez who are the 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:54.940 current Women's Tag Champions come to the ring. 00:24:55.470 --> 00:25:01.470 We then see Lyra come to the ring. And then, 00:25:02.029 --> 00:25:05.609 well, I gave it away a little bit earlier by 00:25:05.609 --> 00:25:09.670 saying a legend made a return. For one night 00:25:09.670 --> 00:25:13.130 only, what do we know at this point? But Adam, 00:25:13.710 --> 00:25:16.130 who was Bailey's replacement in this tag match 00:25:16.130 --> 00:25:21.220 as Lyra Valkyrie's partner? So as a complete 00:25:21.220 --> 00:25:27.980 shot at a left field, we end up with Becky Lynch, 00:25:28.339 --> 00:25:33.839 the man returning to our screens there for it, 00:25:35.740 --> 00:25:38.779 which yes, suffice it to say came as a little 00:25:38.779 --> 00:25:41.400 bit of a shock there for it. It was quite a big 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.240 shock. Now, for some of the matches, WWE have 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:49.000 given us some statistics on its competitors. 00:25:50.259 --> 00:25:53.599 I didn't actually get any for this one. So I'm 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:56.380 not sure if there wasn't any, or if I took my 00:25:56.380 --> 00:25:58.559 eyes off the ball for a little bit too long. 00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:02.059 And knowing Becky Lynch was on my screen, I can't 00:26:02.059 --> 00:26:07.299 imagine that was the case. No, so it wasn't the 00:26:07.299 --> 00:26:11.420 case that you missed the stats that they gave, 00:26:11.500 --> 00:26:16.900 they didn't give any. Which, yeah, wasn't the 00:26:16.900 --> 00:26:20.849 best, but... I'd like to be able to have told 00:26:20.849 --> 00:26:23.710 you when the last time Becky Lynch competed in 00:26:23.710 --> 00:26:28.309 the WWE ring was, or when the last time she was 00:26:28.309 --> 00:26:31.509 at WrestleMania was because, you know, we'd like 00:26:31.509 --> 00:26:34.970 to give you some statistics and some facts to 00:26:34.970 --> 00:26:39.390 go with your weekly breakdowns. And yeah, we 00:26:39.390 --> 00:26:41.390 just didn't seem to have any for this. And with 00:26:41.390 --> 00:26:44.269 Becky Lynch being pretty much a future Hall of 00:26:44.269 --> 00:26:46.779 Famer, I thought we'd have got something. And, 00:26:46.779 --> 00:26:49.960 well, Liv Morgan and Raquel Rodriguez being the 00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:54.799 only three -time tag champions for this specific 00:26:54.799 --> 00:27:01.220 variation of tag team belt. Was there something 00:27:01.220 --> 00:27:03.119 else to that? I mean, I can give it to you, but 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.680 we weren't given anything like that for this 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:10.059 match. Tell you something, Liv Morgan looked 00:27:10.059 --> 00:27:13.839 absolutely shocked when Becky Lynch's music hit. 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.619 She did not know what what hit her but I think 00:27:17.619 --> 00:27:20.119 Becky Lynch's last match may have actually been 00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:26.200 against Liv Morgan Yeah, so we are told a couple 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.759 of times I am that Liv has has gone on record 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.799 on several different occasions as being the person 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:39.819 that retired Becky Lynch and some some good well, 00:27:39.819 --> 00:27:45.079 maybe even just over a year ago and As I believe 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:50.200 off the top of my head that is when That is would 00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:53.779 have been the last time that we saw Becky Lynch 00:27:53.779 --> 00:27:56.799 sort of some some time over 12 months ago, I 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:05.059 believe top my head So the last time that she 00:28:05.059 --> 00:28:08.960 based or anyone in the WWE ring that was when 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:13.619 she lost to Liv Morgan in a steel cage in May 00:28:13.619 --> 00:28:26.500 2027. May 27th, 2024, sorry. But then it also 00:28:26.500 --> 00:28:32.740 says that her last match was the 21st of April 00:28:32.740 --> 00:28:37.210 2025, so yeah. Her last match as of now was this 00:28:37.210 --> 00:28:39.730 WrestleMania match. Her last match before this 00:28:39.730 --> 00:28:43.750 WrestleMania match was the 27th of May, 2024 00:28:43.750 --> 00:28:48.690 against Liv Morgan. So yeah, Liv Morgan technically 00:28:48.690 --> 00:28:53.789 was the woman to retire Becky Lynch, but Becky 00:28:53.789 --> 00:28:56.210 Lynch does not stay retired for long apparently. 00:28:58.249 --> 00:29:02.289 No, well for longer than not as long as she thought 00:29:02.289 --> 00:29:06.970 she was going to anyway. No, definitely As she 00:29:06.970 --> 00:29:09.410 said on numerous occasions in interviews that 00:29:09.410 --> 00:29:16.329 she She's got no No want or need To to carry 00:29:16.329 --> 00:29:19.990 on going on sort of thing. It's I think she's 00:29:19.990 --> 00:29:22.390 accomplished everything She she could do without 00:29:22.390 --> 00:29:24.710 trying to give her the women's North American 00:29:24.710 --> 00:29:27.359 title and the women's intercontinental title 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:29.180 there's not really much else that she hasn't 00:29:29.180 --> 00:29:35.440 already held yeah this is it so uh yeah not really 00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:39.759 uh not really sure well i think i know why it 00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.700 is she's ended up in wrestlemania 41 and i think 00:29:42.700 --> 00:29:44.940 it was mostly because uh they didn't really have 00:29:44.940 --> 00:29:48.039 anybody else that would make sense no and having 00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.339 the irish last kicker come out to join her compatriot 00:29:51.339 --> 00:29:54.460 from ireland in that match was uh quite an interesting 00:29:54.460 --> 00:29:58.140 one It's also been a case that I believe Becky 00:29:58.140 --> 00:30:01.339 Lynch has served as a as a bit of a mentor towards 00:30:01.339 --> 00:30:05.380 Lyra in the past as well. So yeah, there was 00:30:05.380 --> 00:30:08.880 there's definitely like a teacher -student relationship 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:13.579 there. Like a Tiffy Trishy Time style thing. 00:30:15.299 --> 00:30:22.579 Sort of, yeah. Sort of. No. Yeah, it's a case 00:30:22.579 --> 00:30:28.109 that. Once Becky Lynch makes her entrance into 00:30:28.109 --> 00:30:30.410 WrestleMania, I think all the colour drained 00:30:30.410 --> 00:30:33.970 out of Liv Morgan's face, quite frankly. Well, 00:30:33.970 --> 00:30:37.289 Liv Morgan obviously wasn't expecting that. Well, 00:30:37.430 --> 00:30:39.009 yeah, considering what you said, she's been running 00:30:39.009 --> 00:30:41.289 around for the last year almost telling everyone 00:30:41.289 --> 00:30:43.410 she retired Becky Lynch. And then at the show 00:30:43.410 --> 00:30:48.789 of shows, Becky's here in the coming towards 00:30:48.789 --> 00:30:52.900 the ring for a title that lives. holding like 00:30:52.900 --> 00:30:54.839 I wouldn't want to be in that situation you got 00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:56.559 a lot to lose there you're getting an ass kicking 00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.640 on a personal level and there's a title involved 00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:06.259 too yeah no this is it now as far as the match 00:31:06.259 --> 00:31:09.059 went I'll be honest I didn't get a massive amount 00:31:09.059 --> 00:31:13.180 of notes for it I was that sort of struck by 00:31:13.180 --> 00:31:15.420 the fact that Becky Lynch was on my screen and 00:31:15.420 --> 00:31:18.700 I didn't really expect her to be there that yeah 00:31:18.700 --> 00:31:21.940 all that all asked like notions of taking notes 00:31:21.940 --> 00:31:24.420 during this match sort of went to went to the 00:31:24.420 --> 00:31:27.339 wayside a little bit. So I've got a few here. 00:31:27.579 --> 00:31:29.759 I've got that Becky Lynch locks in a choke hold 00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:32.619 on Raquel Rodriguez and Raquel Rodriguez flips 00:31:32.619 --> 00:31:39.140 her over the top and both Liv Morgan and Raquel 00:31:39.140 --> 00:31:46.250 Rodriguez sort of taking them sort of both. of 00:31:46.250 --> 00:31:49.410 Lyra Valkyria and Baki Lynch out. Sorry, I had 00:31:49.410 --> 00:31:51.690 to try and reread my own notes there. My English 00:31:51.690 --> 00:31:53.289 when I'm watching things like this and trying 00:31:53.289 --> 00:31:56.730 to type quickly does not English too well. I've 00:31:56.730 --> 00:32:02.029 also got that Liv Morgan pushes Lyra Valkyria 00:32:02.029 --> 00:32:07.130 and Raquel hits a rather tasty big boot for a 00:32:07.130 --> 00:32:14.299 two count. And Liv Morgan follows that up. Sorry, 00:32:14.460 --> 00:32:17.140 let me just double -check. Sorry, Lyra Valkyria 00:32:17.140 --> 00:32:20.480 apparently hits, it wasn't Lyra Valkyria, it 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.500 was Liv Morgan that hit the three amigos with 00:32:22.500 --> 00:32:26.019 the Eddie shuffle, which was something that her 00:32:26.019 --> 00:32:29.799 on -screen boyfriend Dominic Mysterio does quite 00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:33.240 a lot, with all rumours suggesting that Dominic 00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:37.339 Mysterio could actually be the illegitimate bastard 00:32:37.339 --> 00:32:43.930 of Juan Eddie Guerrero. Yeah, I'm pretty sure 00:32:43.930 --> 00:32:47.089 Dom himself in his in his formative years was 00:32:47.089 --> 00:32:51.049 involved in a storyline before he was a professional 00:32:51.049 --> 00:32:55.369 The custody of Dom Mysterio between Rey and Eddie 00:32:55.369 --> 00:33:01.750 Yes, that's the one. Oh, yes quality much Yeah, 00:33:01.750 --> 00:33:06.289 pretty much But yeah, it is a case that we see 00:33:06.289 --> 00:33:09.089 all of the classic moves come out for each for 00:33:09.800 --> 00:33:13.079 For each superstar the three amigos from live 00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:19.180 As well as the lives Tried and tested method 00:33:19.180 --> 00:33:22.279 of gaining the upper hand which is the cat -and 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:24.980 -mouse game around the Around the arena because 00:33:24.980 --> 00:33:26.920 that was one thing I did manage to make a note 00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:33.619 of here Was that so at one point in the match 00:33:33.619 --> 00:33:38.829 Lyra is is very well isolated off from her tag 00:33:38.829 --> 00:33:43.849 partner, taking an absolute maul in. She does 00:33:43.849 --> 00:33:46.329 get pretty brutalized in this match, to be fair, 00:33:46.470 --> 00:33:50.650 didn't she? She did. And it's not for want of 00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:54.670 trying to get over to Becky. I mean, Liv and 00:33:54.670 --> 00:33:58.789 Raquel did a phenomenal job up to a certain extent 00:33:58.789 --> 00:34:02.950 of keeping Lyra exactly where she needed to, 00:34:03.130 --> 00:34:07.539 exactly where they needed her to be. as far away 00:34:07.539 --> 00:34:12.320 from her tag partner as possible yeah so they 00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:18.260 kept her isolated off and it is a case that so 00:34:18.260 --> 00:34:20.739 Liv tries to stop Lyra from making the tag but 00:34:20.739 --> 00:34:22.960 ends up getting a kick to the side of the head 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.000 for her troubles which I think sends Liv off 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:32.989 to the outside But Liv is not perturbed there 00:34:32.989 --> 00:34:36.469 as the minute she realises that she can't stop 00:34:36.469 --> 00:34:41.190 Lyra from making the tag, she goes and pulls 00:34:41.190 --> 00:34:46.710 Becky Lynch off the ring apron. Fantastic, fantastic 00:34:46.710 --> 00:34:48.869 ring awareness going on. I can't get to the one 00:34:48.869 --> 00:34:50.489 trying to make the tag, but I can get to the 00:34:50.489 --> 00:34:54.010 one trying to be tagged. It definitely shows 00:34:54.010 --> 00:34:59.599 the quality in Liv Morgan. I enjoy watching Liv 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.539 Morgan wrestle to be fair. She is a very talented 00:35:02.539 --> 00:35:09.119 wrestler. And I don't think she, I don't think 00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:11.320 she gets the credit she deserves to be fair. 00:35:12.380 --> 00:35:19.679 I'd like... Yes, yes. But no, I'd like to actually 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:24.960 see Liv Morgan hold a big boy title. over a fact 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:27.320 that I'd rather, I know she's held big boy titles 00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.300 in the past, right? And I know that she's currently 00:35:29.300 --> 00:35:31.500 holding the tag team title, which is a semi big 00:35:31.500 --> 00:35:35.340 boy title, right? But I'd like to see her with 00:35:35.340 --> 00:35:38.199 a women's world title around her waist again 00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:42.239 sometime soon. I don't think that's completely 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:44.980 outside the realms of possibility to be honest. 00:35:45.139 --> 00:35:51.219 I think once, The judgment day reaches its inevitable 00:35:51.219 --> 00:35:55.239 conclusion. I think we will see live go back 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:59.920 chasing the One person I wish we had a scene 00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:04.659 at WrestleMania that we don't see Was Alexa bliss 00:36:04.659 --> 00:36:07.539 I thought we might have seen something from from 00:36:07.539 --> 00:36:11.639 Alexa, but yeah nothing Came back for the rubble 00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:16.840 Yeah, I have seen some things online about even 00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:21.099 like some of the more established wrestling creators 00:36:21.099 --> 00:36:24.199 than than ourselves sort of asking the question 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:27.159 of what was the point in bringing Alexa Bliss 00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:31.420 back at the Royal Rumble at the Royal Rumble 00:36:31.420 --> 00:36:34.199 for it to lead absolutely nowhere it just didn't 00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.900 make any sense yeah and considering she signed 00:36:36.900 --> 00:36:39.699 a brand new contract to be at the Royal Rumble 00:36:39.699 --> 00:36:45.400 too it was a little bit off but yeah no I thought 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.559 we might have seen her at some point, but I've 00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:52.619 digressed a little bit here. Have we had a conversation 00:36:52.619 --> 00:36:57.300 about Becky Lynch hitting the Bexploder and locking 00:36:57.300 --> 00:37:01.679 in the disarmor? We have not. Right. So one thing 00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:05.159 I will always sit here and say that I enjoy watching 00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:08.739 is old school Becky Lynch. So when she starts 00:37:08.739 --> 00:37:12.099 locking in some of these big old moves that we've 00:37:12.099 --> 00:37:17.429 not seen for a year, ish, that we're quite used 00:37:17.429 --> 00:37:19.889 to seeing a lot of. I actually quite enjoyed 00:37:19.889 --> 00:37:22.110 watching it. You know, the Bexploder with the 00:37:22.110 --> 00:37:24.489 baseball slide on Liv Morgan, the disarmor on 00:37:24.489 --> 00:37:27.170 Liv Morgan. You know, she locked that disarmor 00:37:27.170 --> 00:37:32.610 in a couple of times, to be fair. And then we 00:37:32.610 --> 00:37:37.150 get the... Not sure if it's complimentary or 00:37:37.150 --> 00:37:40.050 not like it we're gonna see it whether every 00:37:40.050 --> 00:37:42.369 time that Liv Morgan's in the ring But we did 00:37:42.369 --> 00:37:47.110 finally get to see an oblivion Which is always 00:37:47.110 --> 00:37:50.690 worth watching It's one of those finishing moves 00:37:50.690 --> 00:37:53.429 that is easy enough to it's easy enough for her 00:37:53.429 --> 00:37:56.789 to pull on any opponent, but it is incredibly 00:37:56.789 --> 00:38:01.309 conditional on The setup she tries to hit it 00:38:01.309 --> 00:38:03.769 and making sure that she's in the right place 00:38:03.769 --> 00:38:09.070 and in the right position. Oh, yeah, it's It's 00:38:09.070 --> 00:38:12.949 a universally used move that you just don't If 00:38:12.949 --> 00:38:15.250 it's not in the right place, it doesn't go as 00:38:15.250 --> 00:38:18.630 well as you think it will no no exactly and obviously 00:38:18.630 --> 00:38:20.190 if it doesn't go in the right place, it's not 00:38:20.190 --> 00:38:24.489 very safe either and Safety is definitely the 00:38:24.489 --> 00:38:27.599 prime concern for all of these superstars As 00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.239 much as they're trying to get their stuff done, 00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.159 they're also trying to get it done without risking 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:35.079 their opponent and the health of their opponent. 00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:40.139 Oh yeah, exactly. Don't, for example, try and 00:38:40.139 --> 00:38:42.420 do a shooting star press if you're not built 00:38:42.420 --> 00:38:47.610 to do shooting star presses. Yeah, I'm pretty 00:38:47.610 --> 00:38:49.869 sure I couldn't do a shooting star price. I probably 00:38:49.869 --> 00:38:51.989 do a belly flop and that would probably be about 00:38:51.989 --> 00:38:54.690 it Yeah, so these 450 splashes and I'm like no 00:38:54.690 --> 00:38:56.610 that would be called the hell splash because 00:38:56.610 --> 00:38:59.369 fuck me It's coming really fast like hella fast 00:38:59.369 --> 00:39:08.650 and oh splash But yeah, I mean ultimately Bringing 00:39:08.650 --> 00:39:10.969 up we're pretty close to the conclusion of this 00:39:10.969 --> 00:39:14.050 match anyway Yeah, I think we should just roll 00:39:14.050 --> 00:39:17.039 with it to be fair One of the last notes that 00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.719 I've got here is Lyra keeping hope alive with 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:23.320 a valiant effort and a hot tag to Lynch as Becky 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:28.420 goes to work on both Liv and Raquel and Yeah, 00:39:28.420 --> 00:39:30.639 I've got it down here that Becky and Lyra end 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.079 up winning the world to the Women's World Tag 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:39.159 titles as Becky hits the manhandle slam for the 00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:43.380 win Yeah So not only does Becky Lynch get another 00:39:43.380 --> 00:39:46.280 WrestleMania appearance, she did something Charlotte 00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:50.019 couldn't do and got a title out of it. Yeah, 00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:54.500 this is it. Obviously, I mean, you mentioned 00:39:54.500 --> 00:39:57.280 Charlotte in the same breath as Becky. I mean, 00:39:57.380 --> 00:39:59.320 neither one of those two women get on together 00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:04.380 inside the ring or outside of it. So, yeah, for 00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.360 For Becky to have walked out of a wrestlemania 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:10.760 that she probably wasn't intending to be any 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:16.159 part of in the first place with a title But that 00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:19.539 does it's ironic this happened actually because 00:40:19.539 --> 00:40:23.300 Becky used to be known as Becky two belts Because 00:40:23.300 --> 00:40:26.599 at one point Becky had a tag title and a singles 00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:30.780 title Now stood in the ring with her at this 00:40:30.780 --> 00:40:35.889 moment being crowned the new Women's Tag Champion 00:40:35.889 --> 00:40:39.789 would be Lyra Valkyria. You say, Rich, what do 00:40:39.789 --> 00:40:43.090 those things have in common? Well, Lyra Valkyria 00:40:43.090 --> 00:40:48.389 is currently the Women's Intercontinental Champion. 00:40:49.469 --> 00:40:54.869 Yes. Yes. So she is now technically Lyra two 00:40:54.869 --> 00:40:58.090 belts. So Lyra two belts is standing in a ring 00:40:58.090 --> 00:41:02.469 with Becky two belts. We've got two Irish double 00:41:02.469 --> 00:41:04.849 champions in the ring at the same time, but you 00:41:04.849 --> 00:41:08.650 can't tell me the last time that happened No, 00:41:08.650 --> 00:41:11.809 I can't I'm not gonna read it for you to be able 00:41:11.809 --> 00:41:14.190 to make that claim They both would have had to 00:41:14.190 --> 00:41:16.389 have been holding two titles at the same time, 00:41:16.389 --> 00:41:19.070 but that one is a former and one is a current 00:41:19.070 --> 00:41:22.269 But yeah, they are both But yeah, I couldn't 00:41:22.269 --> 00:41:24.030 either because I didn't do the research behind 00:41:24.030 --> 00:41:28.019 it Because I've only just thought about it No, 00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:33.380 this is it. Now, we move on from this match. 00:41:34.300 --> 00:41:36.420 And the reason I'm moving on from this match, 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:38.519 because this was probably the most hyped I've 00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:40.940 been throughout this entire WrestleMania season. 00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:43.920 Because the next thing that we hear is an awful 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:49.019 lot of glass shattering. It is. It is. And it 00:41:49.019 --> 00:41:53.219 wouldn't be WrestleMania without getting an appearance 00:41:53.219 --> 00:41:56.840 from a couple of Hall of Famers. Now we've already 00:41:56.840 --> 00:42:00.480 seen Shawn Michaels. He came out for night one 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.039 to give us our official attendance, which is 00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:07.480 what the breaking glass is here for today. Now 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:12.219 the night one attendance, I'm just getting back 00:42:12.219 --> 00:42:15.239 up here as I scroll through was given to us by 00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.639 Stone Cold Steve Austin. No, it wasn't. Night 00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:23.440 one was given us. by HBK that is true I'm just 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.300 trying to scroll through because I can't find 00:42:25.300 --> 00:42:29.460 it and he comes out and tells us yeah the attendance 00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:37.280 was $61 ,467 in a sold out arena now Stone Cold 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.079 came out and told us that Knight 2's attendance 00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:48.340 was $63 ,226 sold out now I'd like to know where 00:42:48.340 --> 00:42:52.280 the fuck they pulled an extra 2 ,000 seats from? 00:42:53.440 --> 00:43:00.139 And if that is the case, like how have they just 00:43:00.139 --> 00:43:03.400 managed to pull an extra 1 ,800 seats out of 00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:07.260 somewhere? Because they can't both be sold out. 00:43:07.340 --> 00:43:10.559 If the second night is sold out at 63 ,000 people, 00:43:10.699 --> 00:43:14.289 the first night was not sold out. And if the 00:43:14.289 --> 00:43:17.369 first night was sold out at 61 ,000 people, someone's 00:43:17.369 --> 00:43:22.469 breaking some health and safety rules. No, this 00:43:22.469 --> 00:43:25.510 is it. It's a case that something didn't quite 00:43:25.510 --> 00:43:29.909 add up, but... Somebody lied to us, WWE. Stone 00:43:29.909 --> 00:43:34.250 Cold also manages to give us the combined attendance 00:43:34.250 --> 00:43:38.280 of both nights, which was... When you add those 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.920 two figures together, it adds up to 124 ,693 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:48.159 people. That is a lot of wrestling fans. That 00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.860 is a lot of wrestling fans. That over two nights 00:43:50.860 --> 00:43:53.619 is more than a Super Bowl. And a Super Bowl, 00:43:53.619 --> 00:43:58.320 well, that's a lot of football fans. So 124 ,000 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.019 Hulkamaniacs walking through into Hulkamania. 00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:06.860 That's impressive. It is. It is. I mean... We've 00:44:06.860 --> 00:44:09.840 skirted over one of the more viral bits of Stone 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.699 Cold coming out. Obviously, he came out on his, 00:44:12.900 --> 00:44:15.960 if you want to call it an ATV or a quad bike, 00:44:16.099 --> 00:44:20.599 depending on where you're from. He comes out 00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:23.960 on a quad bike, which we've seen Stone Cold do 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.579 on several occasions before. He's done that, 00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:29.699 rode around the ring, had a good laugh. And yeah, 00:44:30.139 --> 00:44:32.320 one fan didn't think it was funny this time though, 00:44:32.539 --> 00:44:35.449 as Yeah, Stone Cold apparently couldn't drive 00:44:35.449 --> 00:44:37.329 in a straight, couldn't drive in a straight enough 00:44:37.329 --> 00:44:39.789 line to avoid the barrier on his second lap of 00:44:39.789 --> 00:44:41.929 the ring. And this was before he even cracked 00:44:41.929 --> 00:44:44.570 open a Steve Weiser too. He hadn't even had a 00:44:44.570 --> 00:44:46.369 Steve Weiser at this point, unless he'd had a 00:44:46.369 --> 00:44:53.329 few libations with Jay on the bus. Maybe. Maybe. 00:44:55.289 --> 00:45:00.730 But yeah, it's a case that he gave a poor fan 00:45:00.730 --> 00:45:05.130 a near -death experience. um i mean in fairness 00:45:05.130 --> 00:45:09.130 he goes over to him and has conversation twice 00:45:09.130 --> 00:45:12.690 like i say a conversation he's there for less 00:45:12.690 --> 00:45:15.170 than 10 seconds so it's not a conversation as 00:45:15.170 --> 00:45:17.429 such i think it's more of a case of you're going 00:45:17.429 --> 00:45:21.130 over and going shut the fuck up yeah that fan 00:45:21.130 --> 00:45:24.769 sold that move better than dolph ziegler ever 00:45:24.769 --> 00:45:32.369 could yeah 100 um but yeah um that section of 00:45:32.369 --> 00:45:35.610 the that section of wrestlemania uh sort of dies 00:45:35.610 --> 00:45:39.090 as stone cold then drowns himself in steve wise 00:45:39.090 --> 00:45:43.829 as his uh as his tradition i suppose and then 00:45:43.829 --> 00:45:46.690 someone else turns the quad bike around for him 00:45:46.690 --> 00:45:49.769 to be able to get it out and then he walks back 00:45:49.769 --> 00:45:53.530 up the front yeah he's like no fuck that it lives 00:45:53.530 --> 00:45:56.030 there now don't worry about it somebody else 00:45:56.030 --> 00:46:00.440 will sort it I'm going the fuck home. Yeah, I'll 00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:09.940 buy a new one. As to that, into our main event. 00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:14.579 The main event match, which is John Cena and 00:46:14.579 --> 00:46:17.539 Cody Rhodes. And we will follow up with that 00:46:17.539 --> 00:46:22.769 one right now. And with. This our main event 00:46:22.769 --> 00:46:26.150 of the evening. This is Cody Rhodes defending 00:46:26.150 --> 00:46:32.010 his undisputed WWE Championship against the man 00:46:32.010 --> 00:46:36.829 that we have all seen recently on multiple viral 00:46:36.829 --> 00:46:41.210 clips. John Cena, the man going for his 17th 00:46:41.210 --> 00:46:48.110 world title. And we are informed. Just before 00:46:48.110 --> 00:46:51.579 the big man himself enters that what we're saying 00:46:51.579 --> 00:46:56.380 formed we are reminded that this is John Cena's 00:46:56.380 --> 00:47:02.300 last WrestleMania appearance and his music hits 00:47:02.300 --> 00:47:06.840 and it is just pure darkness now we were told 00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:10.139 a couple of weeks ago by John Cena I can't remember 00:47:10.139 --> 00:47:12.019 exactly where it was but it was somewhere on 00:47:12.019 --> 00:47:17.460 the European tour that we didn't deserve new 00:47:17.460 --> 00:47:22.460 like new ring gear new entry music, new video 00:47:22.460 --> 00:47:25.679 package. We didn't deserve any of that. And you 00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:28.639 know what the jammy little bastard did? He took 00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:32.199 it all away from us. All we got was music. We 00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:37.760 got no video package. We got no big flashy entrance. 00:47:38.019 --> 00:47:41.360 It was literally just his music and a light walking 00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:46.199 him down the rope. It was weird. Normally like 00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:49.219 I mean this is the guy who when he showed up 00:47:49.219 --> 00:47:55.659 at WrestleMania 21 I want to say Where he had 00:47:55.659 --> 00:47:59.219 a whole ton of cars come driving out with people 00:47:59.219 --> 00:48:03.119 dressed up as Al Capone With like Tommy guns. 00:48:03.340 --> 00:48:06.099 I believe WrestleMania 21 was in Chicago. That's 00:48:06.099 --> 00:48:10.800 why that might have been a thing But uh, yeah 00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:14.420 big flashy WrestleMania entrances And then this 00:48:14.420 --> 00:48:17.820 time, we literally, it was like a boxing entrance. 00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:24.639 It was just music and a light. Compared to Cody's 00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:29.179 entrance, which is completely different. Yeah, 00:48:29.340 --> 00:48:32.920 so like John Cena's entrance, completely devoid 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:36.460 of any colour, pizzazz, any sort of WrestleMania 00:48:36.460 --> 00:48:40.909 magic whatsoever. And honestly, it's... Yeah, 00:48:41.150 --> 00:48:43.909 it just very much encapsulated exactly what it 00:48:43.909 --> 00:48:51.730 needed to. Whereas, yes, 100 % Cody Rhodes' American 00:48:51.730 --> 00:48:54.210 Nightmare. The American Nightmare's entrance, 00:48:54.349 --> 00:48:59.400 like... ridiculously extravagant like if it was 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.539 a case that it was a budgeting decision then 00:49:02.539 --> 00:49:06.659 100 % I can totally see that they pushed all 00:49:06.659 --> 00:49:08.980 of the funding that probably was going to go 00:49:08.980 --> 00:49:12.400 to John Cena's entrance over into Cody Rhodes's 00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:16.460 because yes they um they went all out didn't 00:49:16.460 --> 00:49:19.719 they they had bang -bangs and lights and music 00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.039 and VTs and even had a really cool mask on didn't 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:27.119 they Yeah, he had like an American nightmare 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:32.480 sort of an American nightmare esque Like oh, 00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:36.719 what's it man iron man sort of man iron man was 00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:38.340 the sort of thing that popped up in my head to 00:49:38.340 --> 00:49:42.460 be fair That makes me feel a little bit better 00:49:42.460 --> 00:49:45.199 about me just thinking it was a it was my nerd 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:48.500 brain taking over Considering I don't do Marvel 00:49:48.500 --> 00:49:50.960 then yeah for me to work out. It was an iron 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.260 man esque was quite interesting Yeah, it was. 00:49:56.480 --> 00:50:04.139 But yeah, we've... Okay, we're gonna sort of 00:50:04.139 --> 00:50:12.260 bolt down into some statistics here for it. Which 00:50:12.260 --> 00:50:17.980 ones have you got? I've got, so... Got that obviously 00:50:17.980 --> 00:50:20.960 this is John Cena's last WrestleMania. It's been 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:25.460 seven years since his last singles win Right 00:50:25.460 --> 00:50:30.159 and ten years since his last WrestleMania singles 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:35.599 win See I had a couple for Cody Rhodes Okay, 00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:39.179 I've got a few for Cody Rhodes myself Cody I 00:50:39.179 --> 00:50:41.340 think we probably have to be fair that Cody's 00:50:41.340 --> 00:50:48.820 been champ for 378 days winning the title from 00:50:48.820 --> 00:50:54.139 Roman Reigns at WrestleMania 40 and I have that 00:50:54.139 --> 00:50:59.400 this is his ninth title defense and it is his 00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:06.320 10th career WrestleMania and I do believe that 00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:11.420 at this point as well Cody Rhodes has never beaten 00:51:11.420 --> 00:51:14.760 John Cena. I think he's naught and three against 00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:19.760 Cena at this point. You've definitely got more 00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:23.820 than I had. That one was more of a meme that 00:51:23.820 --> 00:51:30.739 I saw online that I think fits because the final 00:51:30.739 --> 00:51:33.639 part of the meme, which I'm not going to discuss 00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:39.570 too much, gives away some stuff. has some pictures 00:51:39.570 --> 00:51:43.230 of different matches with the three of them and 00:51:43.230 --> 00:51:45.389 one of them was when Cody Rhodes was sporting 00:51:45.389 --> 00:51:53.110 that fantastic moustache. Dashing Cody Rhodes. 00:51:54.289 --> 00:51:56.929 One of those gimmicks that is truly timeless. 00:51:59.750 --> 00:52:02.900 It will never be forgotten. That mustache was 00:52:02.900 --> 00:52:05.559 fucking terrible. And when Randy Orton did it 00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:08.360 as well, it was like, why? Why is everyone growing 00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:15.239 stupid mustaches? Cody Rhodes did it. Randy Orton 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:19.260 did it. And then Vince McMahon did it. Oh, I 00:52:19.260 --> 00:52:24.619 forgot about Vince's fucking 1970s same sex porn 00:52:24.619 --> 00:52:30.929 star mustache. unfortunately nobody else could 00:52:30.929 --> 00:52:34.150 yeah I'm not even sure fucking that's probably 00:52:34.150 --> 00:52:36.730 why Linda decided to go into politics to get 00:52:36.730 --> 00:52:41.449 away from that fucking mustache yeah I went into 00:52:41.449 --> 00:52:44.170 a little bit more detail on John Cena's WrestleMania 00:52:44.170 --> 00:52:48.389 career so this was his 17th career WrestleMania 00:52:48.389 --> 00:52:53.730 I think I think it was and he holds 10 WrestleMania 00:52:53.730 --> 00:52:57.809 wins How many of those with championship wins 00:52:57.809 --> 00:53:01.210 can you tell us or do you not know? No, you've 00:53:01.210 --> 00:53:03.949 caught me out on that one. I don't know. I like 00:53:03.949 --> 00:53:07.510 trying to get that one in It's always always 00:53:07.510 --> 00:53:09.889 fun when we get Adam back for a podcast episode 00:53:09.889 --> 00:53:12.570 guys because we do try and we do get to try and 00:53:12.570 --> 00:53:17.809 have some fun Yeah, normally at my expense though 00:53:21.179 --> 00:53:23.380 At least when I'll get you back for a podcast 00:53:23.380 --> 00:53:26.440 episode, it's a case that we just end up throwing 00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:30.380 insults at you for 10, 20 minutes. Oh, yeah, 00:53:30.380 --> 00:53:33.239 definitely. That is a good point, to be fair. 00:53:35.380 --> 00:53:41.559 But yeah, we'll... We'll jump into the match 00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:44.059 itself because, yeah, we could be here for a 00:53:44.059 --> 00:53:50.000 while otherwise. So, yeah, John sort of seems 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:55.039 to... start this match in a he seems very disengaged 00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:58.059 from the match itself is the impression that 00:53:58.059 --> 00:54:02.320 I got yeah so I think well there was no pace 00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:06.659 to it either he was basically it was pace to 00:54:06.659 --> 00:54:11.440 it but it was all John Cena's pace yeah he starts 00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.679 off with a shoulder tackle you know he ends up 00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:19.909 trying to I think he goes into this thinking 00:54:19.909 --> 00:54:22.349 that the faster he can do the most damage, the 00:54:22.349 --> 00:54:25.429 easier it will be for him. You know, and he starts 00:54:25.429 --> 00:54:29.409 things with like headlock takedowns pretty quickly. 00:54:30.489 --> 00:54:35.250 And this is where the meme, well, this is where 00:54:35.250 --> 00:54:39.010 my stat goes. It says that Cody is 0 and 4 against 00:54:39.010 --> 00:54:41.409 John Cena, but each of those losses are over 00:54:41.409 --> 00:54:45.170 10 years old. Obviously John's been out of the 00:54:45.170 --> 00:54:47.769 company for a while doing stuff with TV films 00:54:47.769 --> 00:54:50.929 and all that bits and pieces and Cody went to 00:54:50.929 --> 00:54:54.489 this place called All Elite Wrestling for a while. 00:54:57.230 --> 00:55:00.510 Cody has continued to compete week in week out. 00:55:00.690 --> 00:55:03.849 It is a case that he's had numerous matches, 00:55:04.150 --> 00:55:06.889 whether they be dark matches, house shows, anything 00:55:06.889 --> 00:55:09.750 like that. John Cena has been completely removed 00:55:09.750 --> 00:55:14.719 from the lifestyle for a while. At least the 00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:19.880 last sort of one to two years and Yeah, it's 00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:25.039 a case that I think in terms of that John Cena 00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:29.800 was really smart to keep the the pace Low to 00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:35.239 keep it low tempo so that he ran less risk of 00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:39.219 becoming completely exhausted Well, we said this 00:55:39.219 --> 00:55:42.820 on night one's coverage of Charlotte flair Like 00:55:42.820 --> 00:55:46.900 she was completely gassed by the end of her match. 00:55:47.059 --> 00:55:50.320 I say 91. I think it was early on in this episode. 00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:55.119 But she was completely, completely gassed by 00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:58.500 the time she got to the end of her match. Even 00:55:58.500 --> 00:56:01.039 halfway through the middle of it, she was done. 00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:03.679 So I think John might have seen that and kind 00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:05.679 of gone, you know what? I need to slow this down 00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:08.300 a bit because I might not make the full allocation 00:56:08.300 --> 00:56:11.309 that we've been given. and I'm not really gonna 00:56:11.309 --> 00:56:13.309 have another opportunity to do this. You don't 00:56:13.309 --> 00:56:14.989 turn around and tell everyone this is your last 00:56:14.989 --> 00:56:18.849 WrestleMania and then turn around to hunt her 00:56:18.849 --> 00:56:20.650 afterwards and go, look mate, I really don't 00:56:20.650 --> 00:56:22.409 think that went the way it should have done. 00:56:22.789 --> 00:56:28.289 Should I go next to you? No, and considering 00:56:28.289 --> 00:56:31.050 we already know how the match turns out and everything, 00:56:31.570 --> 00:56:36.559 it is a case that... this match gets absolutely 00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:39.159 slated in reviews and things like that I think 00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:43.980 I've seen somewhere that in the Wrestling Observer 00:56:43.980 --> 00:56:51.199 the match gets something like I think it was 00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:54.420 one and a half stars or something like that like 00:56:54.420 --> 00:56:57.800 Dave Meltzer really didn't like this match I 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:04.929 mean Dave Meltzer's a knobhead anyway but The 00:57:04.929 --> 00:57:07.210 issue I had with this match, and I'll be straight 00:57:07.210 --> 00:57:09.730 up with you, I work early mornings and the weekends. 00:57:09.789 --> 00:57:14.429 So by the time I started work on the bank holiday, 00:57:14.570 --> 00:57:19.690 I'd already had someone ruin this, like, match 00:57:19.690 --> 00:57:24.269 for me. So I'd already knew what was gonna happen 00:57:24.269 --> 00:57:28.530 before this match. It even, like, I got around 00:57:28.530 --> 00:57:30.710 to watching it for the podcast. So I was really 00:57:30.710 --> 00:57:34.119 pissed at this match. And to be fair, It gave 00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:37.079 it the match itself even though Dave Meltzer 00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:39.260 only gave it a one and a half star rating it 00:57:39.260 --> 00:57:42.340 did make up for the fact that I Knew what was 00:57:42.340 --> 00:57:45.000 coming. It was very I was still on the edge of 00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.360 my seat for a fair chunk of it kind of going 00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:52.280 Oh, is it here? Is it here? Is it here? Yeah, 00:57:53.019 --> 00:57:54.940 so I mean there wasn't a bad match before it 00:57:54.940 --> 00:57:57.530 kept me going Mean you don't take much to entertain 00:57:57.530 --> 00:57:59.869 me a box of crayons normally does the job but 00:57:59.869 --> 00:58:01.650 you know WrestleMania definitely made up for 00:58:01.650 --> 00:58:08.949 that like a box of crayons Yeah, this is it and 00:58:08.949 --> 00:58:11.170 I've got to admit I didn't mind the match either 00:58:11.170 --> 00:58:14.449 I didn't even mind the ending the only thing 00:58:14.449 --> 00:58:17.550 that Got to me with the ending to this match. 00:58:17.550 --> 00:58:20.769 I mean we could go through the blow -by -blow 00:58:20.769 --> 00:58:22.929 and all the rest of it because that is pretty 00:58:22.929 --> 00:58:27.690 much what my What my notes are here, but the 00:58:27.690 --> 00:58:34.449 general gist of this match is that John dominated 00:58:34.449 --> 00:58:38.949 for about I'd say somewhere between 85 to 75 00:58:38.949 --> 00:58:44.469 percent of this match and Very much took it at 00:58:44.469 --> 00:58:47.670 his own pace. He was Cody didn't even look like 00:58:47.670 --> 00:58:52.510 you wanted to be there to be fair like once that 00:58:52.510 --> 00:58:55.760 bell rang He really just looked like it was a 00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:58.320 case of like, oh, can we please just get this 00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:03.579 over with? His body, his demeanor was very, very 00:59:03.579 --> 00:59:08.860 off for a WrestleMania main event. I can't say 00:59:08.860 --> 00:59:14.719 that I picked up on that at all. It might've 00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:16.619 just been me, but I just, I kind of felt with 00:59:16.619 --> 00:59:19.519 the amount of time that John was ahead and the 00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:21.420 amount of things that was going on that Cody 00:59:21.420 --> 00:59:24.369 just didn't necessarily. want to really participate. 00:59:26.409 --> 00:59:30.409 But I say it could have just been me. No, that's 00:59:30.409 --> 00:59:34.590 fair enough. I mean, yeah, it just it was all 00:59:34.590 --> 00:59:40.550 it was primarily sort of John centred. And yeah, 00:59:40.550 --> 00:59:43.489 I think we sort of we knew how this one was going 00:59:43.489 --> 00:59:46.789 to roll out as it goes. It wasn't it wasn't going 00:59:46.789 --> 00:59:49.090 to end any other way. Well, I think we've been 00:59:49.090 --> 00:59:51.389 saying it for weeks on the podcast. and we've 00:59:51.389 --> 00:59:54.889 predicted a lot of these matches i mean there's 00:59:54.889 --> 00:59:58.050 a few we didn't even try but we've predicted 00:59:58.050 --> 01:00:01.429 most of these uh the outcomes of most of these 01:00:01.429 --> 01:00:03.190 we just haven't necessarily been able to tell 01:00:03.190 --> 01:00:06.590 you how we've just been able to tell you who 01:00:06.590 --> 01:00:10.349 and we haven't really had any major shocks have 01:00:10.349 --> 01:00:17.550 we apart from dom with the ic title um apart 01:00:17.550 --> 01:00:19.829 i've not really seen a huge amount of shocks 01:00:19.829 --> 01:00:22.820 with Sort of like the matches that we've had 01:00:22.820 --> 01:00:26.500 No, and a lot of that comes down to the fact 01:00:26.500 --> 01:00:31.519 that we have I mean You watch wrestling long 01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:39.699 enough and it does become Predictable But so 01:00:39.699 --> 01:00:42.400 does everything Unless you're watching man united 01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:44.199 playing and the only thing that's predictable 01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:48.860 is the your team is gonna lose It's still predictable 01:00:51.429 --> 01:00:59.690 But yeah, it's just It's not It there are some 01:00:59.690 --> 01:01:04.170 matches where You can see where it's gonna go 01:01:04.170 --> 01:01:07.449 other matches can be too close to call sometimes 01:01:07.449 --> 01:01:10.530 I could sit you could give me a card for any 01:01:10.530 --> 01:01:13.250 but you could draw me up a card with any wrestlers 01:01:13.250 --> 01:01:17.440 in it and based on the wrestlers that I That 01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.119 I see in there I could probably predict where 01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:24.300 that what the match finishes are gonna be I Couldn't 01:01:24.300 --> 01:01:27.579 tell you how we got there But I could tell you 01:01:27.579 --> 01:01:29.579 how they're gonna. I could probably tell you 01:01:29.579 --> 01:01:33.300 roughly how they're gonna end With a reasonable 01:01:33.300 --> 01:01:38.440 degree of accuracy yeah I think and as we've 01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:41.880 been doing finishes and factions we have called 01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:48.619 a majority of these matches pretty early But 01:01:48.619 --> 01:01:51.800 we still enjoy watching them, and we still definitely 01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:53.739 enjoy breaking them all down for you guys, because 01:01:53.739 --> 01:01:55.579 I think it gives us a reason to watch them from 01:01:55.579 --> 01:01:58.800 a different perspective. I don't watch WWE as 01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:02.079 a fan anymore. There are certain matches where 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:03.980 my inner fan comes out and I'm like, yeah, fuck 01:02:03.980 --> 01:02:05.920 that, I'll watch this a second time for the podcast, 01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:07.760 but I'm just gonna enjoy myself this time around. 01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:10.739 This wasn't one of those matches though. I thought 01:02:10.739 --> 01:02:16.070 it was gonna be, this wasn't for me. Yeah, this 01:02:16.070 --> 01:02:20.710 this could have been a match that was just Full 01:02:20.710 --> 01:02:23.809 to the brim with nostalgia and all the rest of 01:02:23.809 --> 01:02:29.710 it. And yeah, it just wasn't It just wasn't and 01:02:29.710 --> 01:02:33.030 I think that was the way that the match was designed 01:02:33.030 --> 01:02:36.710 I will be honest is the But John Cena's last 01:02:36.710 --> 01:02:40.610 WrestleMania He's doing his last run as a as 01:02:40.610 --> 01:02:44.150 a heel character I think there were some of us 01:02:44.150 --> 01:02:49.710 that still expected him to to play the hits if 01:02:49.710 --> 01:02:53.730 you like and it just wasn't it was never gonna 01:02:53.730 --> 01:02:58.590 happen we got we got the hits in terms of the 01:02:58.590 --> 01:03:02.389 moves that he used we saw several attitude adjustments 01:03:02.389 --> 01:03:07.010 we saw an STFU we even saw one where Cody poked 01:03:07.010 --> 01:03:09.070 him in the eye when he took too much time trying 01:03:09.070 --> 01:03:15.349 to hit it Yeah, we saw a I think we saw just 01:03:15.349 --> 01:03:19.789 the one five knuckle shuffle. I want to say Roughly. 01:03:20.269 --> 01:03:22.389 Yeah, I think we only saw that we saw one attempt 01:03:22.389 --> 01:03:29.690 and one hit Yeah, and Like Cody still managed 01:03:29.690 --> 01:03:31.949 to get a lot of his shit in as well. I think 01:03:31.949 --> 01:03:35.969 he hit a Crossroads. I mean the biggest yeah 01:03:35.969 --> 01:03:41.429 for you. I'm sure yeah, but Even just the run 01:03:41.429 --> 01:03:44.550 up to these matches the last few weeks Cody has 01:03:44.550 --> 01:03:48.090 managed to hit crossroads on John Cena twice 01:03:48.090 --> 01:03:53.929 I want to say and that in itself gave us an Indication 01:03:53.929 --> 01:03:57.130 as to how this match was gonna go. Well, John 01:03:57.130 --> 01:04:00.170 Cena has never won a Royal Rumble and lost at 01:04:00.170 --> 01:04:05.860 WrestleMania But then oh wait a minute There's 01:04:05.860 --> 01:04:08.420 a few statistics I've seen. One of them says 01:04:08.420 --> 01:04:11.039 he's never won a Rumble and lost at Mania, but 01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:14.179 I don't think that's true. I'm pretty sure he 01:04:14.179 --> 01:04:16.440 has lost at Mania after winning the Rumble, but 01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:18.719 I do know that he's never come second in the 01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:22.219 Royal Rumble and not taken the title at WrestleMania. 01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:25.360 So on the years where he's come second, and I 01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:27.260 know he did it when he lost to Batista in the 01:04:27.260 --> 01:04:30.039 Royal Rumble, he won the championship at main 01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:33.170 event in... WrestleMania in a triple threat and 01:04:33.170 --> 01:04:43.949 he did it once more I'm sure Quite possibly Yeah, 01:04:44.150 --> 01:04:49.510 but there were there were a few sort of OMG moments 01:04:49.510 --> 01:04:53.849 in this match. I mean We saw John Cena exhibit 01:04:53.849 --> 01:04:56.170 in a lot of behavior. We've never seen him exhibit 01:04:56.170 --> 01:04:59.110 before or haven't seen him do in a long time 01:04:59.070 --> 01:05:01.650 uh again because he's a heel character things 01:05:01.650 --> 01:05:04.789 like taking the uh the turnbuckle pad off the 01:05:04.789 --> 01:05:11.329 uh off the turnbuckle itself so exposing that 01:05:11.329 --> 01:05:16.570 uh that raw turnbuckle metal um and uh yeah he 01:05:16.570 --> 01:05:20.309 suckers Cody into that and uh ends up running 01:05:20.309 --> 01:05:23.349 his head running his head off the off the steel 01:05:23.349 --> 01:05:27.579 twice well doesn't he also get a second shot 01:05:27.579 --> 01:05:32.900 in the plums on him as well at one point he might 01:05:32.900 --> 01:05:35.280 do you know i'm pretty sure i've got somewhere 01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:38.619 in my notes that john kicks him in the plums 01:05:38.619 --> 01:05:44.420 a second time well one of the biggest disappointments 01:05:44.420 --> 01:05:47.099 and i say the biggest disappointments for this 01:05:47.099 --> 01:05:53.519 uh for just generally for this match uh for with 01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:59.650 this match It is, I think it was expected that 01:05:59.650 --> 01:06:04.929 we were going to see the final boss. Yes. I mean, 01:06:04.929 --> 01:06:07.349 and it was set up that way. And I've seen on 01:06:07.349 --> 01:06:11.030 social media since a reason why, but it was a 01:06:11.030 --> 01:06:12.869 little bit of a piss take. I'm not going to lie. 01:06:13.730 --> 01:06:15.710 I was going to say the rumour and innuendo that 01:06:15.710 --> 01:06:17.730 I've seen, and I'm sure you may well have seen 01:06:17.730 --> 01:06:21.690 the same thing, Rich, is that basically Dwayne 01:06:21.690 --> 01:06:26.329 decided, yeah, no, I don't fancy it. No, what 01:06:26.329 --> 01:06:29.989 I'd seen is that the elimination chamber tickets 01:06:29.989 --> 01:06:34.989 weren't selling very well. So they had lived 01:06:34.989 --> 01:06:38.829 that in to get more ticket sales for elimination 01:06:38.829 --> 01:06:42.150 chamber. He had no intentions of actually, there 01:06:42.150 --> 01:06:45.230 was no steps after elimination chamber. That 01:06:45.230 --> 01:06:52.389 was just, that was it. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah, 01:06:52.389 --> 01:06:56.000 that was. That was it, and then I think they 01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.000 were struggling with ticket sales for Rumble 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:03.019 as well, which is why they had the thing there 01:07:03.019 --> 01:07:06.059 with Travis Scott. No, that was Elimination Chamber, 01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:12.019 wasn't it? Now you mentioned Travis Scott. We 01:07:12.019 --> 01:07:14.139 may as well talk about his involvement in this 01:07:14.139 --> 01:07:16.920 match, and yeah, it sort of feeds into what I 01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:20.429 was saying about Dwayne not turning up. basically, 01:07:20.530 --> 01:07:22.429 one way or another. No matter what the reason 01:07:22.429 --> 01:07:25.170 was, he didn't turn up. That's the bottom line. 01:07:26.170 --> 01:07:30.670 And Stone Cold probably would say so too. Yeah. 01:07:32.889 --> 01:07:39.570 And it basically boils down to... He came out 01:07:39.570 --> 01:07:42.449 with that... What is that silly little title 01:07:42.449 --> 01:07:44.849 he's walking around with? I'm pretty sure it's 01:07:44.849 --> 01:07:47.449 the hardcore championship the hardcore champion. 01:07:47.449 --> 01:07:50.250 Why is he walking around with the hardcore championship? 01:07:51.309 --> 01:07:55.090 so I Don't think that was the championship he 01:07:55.090 --> 01:07:57.750 walked out to it with elimination chamber on 01:07:57.750 --> 01:08:03.610 I think this is more of a so I Do seem to remember 01:08:03.610 --> 01:08:06.690 seeing somewhere in somewhere in WrestleMania 01:08:06.690 --> 01:08:09.590 in between the matches and everything along those 01:08:09.590 --> 01:08:15.750 lines that Somebody had done a a shoe company 01:08:15.750 --> 01:08:21.130 of some kind Had done I think it might be a shoe 01:08:21.130 --> 01:08:25.329 company that Travis Scott owns and operates I've 01:08:25.329 --> 01:08:30.470 done a WWE crossover where they had done a set 01:08:30.470 --> 01:08:34.930 of Set of mankind trainers. Yeah, one of the 01:08:34.930 --> 01:08:40.289 one of the main titles that mankind won and held 01:08:40.289 --> 01:08:45.890 was the hardcore title it was yes and so i think 01:08:45.890 --> 01:08:56.449 that was the that was the crossover okay fair 01:08:56.449 --> 01:08:58.529 enough that was where i think that was where 01:08:58.529 --> 01:09:01.470 i think it came from you learn something new 01:09:01.470 --> 01:09:09.859 every day um but yeah it is a case that Let's 01:09:09.859 --> 01:09:18.300 see. I'm just trying to bring myself back round. 01:09:19.340 --> 01:09:21.859 So suddenly we see in here Travis Scott, who 01:09:21.859 --> 01:09:26.399 we know is an associate at The Final Boss. Cena 01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:32.760 helps Scott onto the apron. Cena attempts to 01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:35.979 drag Cody to Travis, but Cody slips the hold, 01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:39.670 makes a play for Scott. then delivers another 01:09:39.670 --> 01:09:44.050 crossroads to Cena covers but Scott yanks the 01:09:44.050 --> 01:09:51.109 ref from the ring yep Cody offers Travis into 01:09:51.109 --> 01:09:56.050 the ring and he accepts takes a wild Travis then 01:09:56.050 --> 01:10:03.689 takes a wild swing at Cody and misses and earns 01:10:03.689 --> 01:10:07.970 himself a crossroads all of his very own I mean, 01:10:08.130 --> 01:10:09.970 there was a lot of crossroads being down out 01:10:09.970 --> 01:10:12.670 here. I don't know how many Cena ratings over 01:10:12.670 --> 01:10:20.170 the course of this match, but it was a few. Yeah, 01:10:20.170 --> 01:10:23.210 and this is where, again, Cena starts exhibiting 01:10:23.210 --> 01:10:25.350 some of that behavior that we don't see him do 01:10:25.350 --> 01:10:29.840 very often. So as Cody's dumping Travis's body 01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:32.939 out of the ring and turns around, Cena makes 01:10:32.939 --> 01:10:37.260 a run at him with the title belt itself, trying 01:10:37.260 --> 01:10:42.880 to take Cody out that way, and basically Cody 01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:45.420 catches it, starts a bit of a tug of war with 01:10:45.420 --> 01:10:50.960 John Cena, and I'm sorry, if I had time to spend 01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:54.640 with John Cena, a tug of war would not be what 01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:59.770 I would choose. Because the guy, even now, in 01:10:59.770 --> 01:11:02.869 his older age, it is a case that the guy is still 01:11:02.869 --> 01:11:08.909 built like a brick shit house. Yeah, no, I would 01:11:08.909 --> 01:11:11.890 definitely not want to be on either side of either 01:11:11.890 --> 01:11:16.590 of those two men. They're both pretty large fellas. 01:11:18.149 --> 01:11:20.529 I'm actually sure at one point, Cena's arm was 01:11:20.529 --> 01:11:24.470 bigger than my leg currently. Yeah, this is it. 01:11:25.949 --> 01:11:29.869 But yeah, essentially Cody manages to wrestle 01:11:29.869 --> 01:11:34.810 it from Cena's grasp where Cena actually starts 01:11:34.810 --> 01:11:39.670 begging for For his forgiveness now. We are reminded 01:11:39.670 --> 01:11:42.390 at this point by commentary I believe it was 01:11:42.390 --> 01:11:45.850 that Cena did say in one of the promos he cut 01:11:45.850 --> 01:11:49.569 on the run -up to this match that Sooner or later 01:11:49.569 --> 01:11:55.649 Cody's gonna have to make a choice Yes And he's 01:11:55.649 --> 01:11:57.770 gonna have to develop that killer instinct. He 01:11:57.770 --> 01:12:01.909 can't always hand it to the WWE Universe to get 01:12:01.909 --> 01:12:07.350 things done and Yeah, it's a case that this is 01:12:07.350 --> 01:12:10.210 not that time for Cody Cody decides that this 01:12:10.210 --> 01:12:14.750 is That that's the line he won't cross that's 01:12:14.750 --> 01:12:19.689 where he draws the line and Yeah, the minute 01:12:19.689 --> 01:12:24.500 he drops his guard Cena drops in with a bit of 01:12:24.500 --> 01:12:32.600 a low blow. Oh yeah, baby. Cena lays out Cody 01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:36.899 with the title, scores the pin as the ref recovers 01:12:36.899 --> 01:12:42.159 to declare Cena the winner and new champion. 01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:49.180 For the 17th time beating the record of the Great 01:12:49.180 --> 01:12:54.750 Ric Flair. Now, while we mention Ric Flair, it's 01:12:54.750 --> 01:12:56.850 made me laugh on a couple of occasions because 01:12:56.850 --> 01:13:02.930 I have come across several memes that say that 01:13:02.930 --> 01:13:06.310 AEW, which is where Ric Flair currently resides, 01:13:08.430 --> 01:13:13.710 could be dead petty and just drop a world title 01:13:13.710 --> 01:13:24.189 onto Ric Flair. extra level of petty which there's 01:13:24.189 --> 01:13:27.810 a part of me that hopes they do it just because 01:13:27.810 --> 01:13:32.069 i want to see how wwe will react that would be 01:13:32.069 --> 01:13:38.649 absolutely hilarious um but one thing that we 01:13:38.649 --> 01:13:43.449 have to cover um is that throughout all of this 01:13:43.449 --> 01:13:48.060 john cena has gone on record and said that if 01:13:48.060 --> 01:13:50.880 he wins this title or when he wins this title, 01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:57.260 he's retiring with that title. What I can't get 01:13:57.260 --> 01:14:02.439 over is obviously he's depicted this as it will 01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:06.100 be the death of the company. If he takes that 01:14:06.100 --> 01:14:09.779 title and all the prestige that goes with it, 01:14:09.939 --> 01:14:12.699 WWE will go down with it. It is a case that he 01:14:12.699 --> 01:14:15.079 is trying to destroy everything from the inside 01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:18.119 out. Which I don't understand why. I know he's 01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:20.979 the heel, but why destroy everything that's built 01:14:20.979 --> 01:14:25.699 you the life that you have? Because he doesn't 01:14:25.699 --> 01:14:28.479 need that to maintain his lifestyle anymore. 01:14:29.380 --> 01:14:31.300 Yeah, I suppose he's making more dollar from 01:14:31.300 --> 01:14:33.020 Hollywood and he doesn't have to put his ass 01:14:33.020 --> 01:14:37.779 on the line quite so much. No, this is it. The 01:14:37.779 --> 01:14:42.359 big thing about it all was that... Well, the 01:14:42.359 --> 01:14:46.109 thing that really gripped me was... When he won 01:14:46.109 --> 01:14:49.590 that title and he was showing it off celebrating 01:14:49.590 --> 01:14:55.569 in ring it was a case that Nobody in that entire 01:14:55.569 --> 01:15:00.569 Las Vegas Allegiant Stadium Once gave a thought 01:15:00.569 --> 01:15:04.149 to the fact that Cena's gonna follow through 01:15:04.149 --> 01:15:07.810 on what he said He'll retire with that title. 01:15:07.810 --> 01:15:15.359 I'm hoping so And If everything else that he's 01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:19.340 prophesized comes true, the death of the WWE 01:15:19.340 --> 01:15:26.399 comes at rapturous applause. I mean, I'm not 01:15:26.399 --> 01:15:29.100 sure what this podcast would be done. If there 01:15:29.100 --> 01:15:31.899 was no more WWE, we would have no more Finishes 01:15:31.899 --> 01:15:36.619 and Factions. Not true, we'd switch to AEW. I'd 01:15:36.619 --> 01:15:39.300 rather switch to TNA. I was going to say, we'd 01:15:39.300 --> 01:15:42.800 switch to AEW or TNA, one of the two. I said 01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:45.000 AEW to begin with because it was the last promotion 01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:48.039 we were talking about that wasn't WWE. Yeah, 01:15:48.060 --> 01:15:50.939 but TNA is only one night a week where AEW does 01:15:50.939 --> 01:16:00.300 Dynamite and the other one. Explosion or something 01:16:00.300 --> 01:16:08.000 like that. Which I'm not down with. Yeah, I'm 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.279 not down for that record. Oh, it would be so 01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:17.619 timeless. But that draws to a close, I believe, 01:16:18.140 --> 01:16:22.899 our coverage of WrestleMania 41. It certainly 01:16:22.899 --> 01:16:26.819 does. I am all wrestled out, I will tell you 01:16:26.819 --> 01:16:32.340 that. Yeah, so because of that, it will be... 01:16:32.220 --> 01:16:35.600 Me on me Todd for the next two episodes covering 01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:40.500 the raw after WrestleMania and the NXT after 01:16:40.500 --> 01:16:47.140 stand and deliver as well. So yeah, keep your 01:16:47.140 --> 01:16:49.199 eyes peeled for when those episodes drop. And 01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:52.380 I will be back for SmackDown at the end of the 01:16:52.380 --> 01:16:56.140 week. So see you all then. Peace out.