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Hello everybody and welcome to another episode

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of Finishes and Factions Does NXT. This week

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we are in the Performance Center and on as normal

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you have myself, Rich and my co -host Adam. Adam,

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welcome in buddy. Yeet. Yeet. it's gonna be one

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of those days yep right so but yeah I'm all good

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buddy I'm all good and excited to get into NXT

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this week as this is the first NXT that we have

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had since roadblock in new I want to say New

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York Madison Square Gardens yes I'm so glad you

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remembered And while we're talking about roadblock,

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that was the first item on the agenda this evening.

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It was a case that we had a VT promo just recap

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in all the action from roadblock. And as we said,

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when we did our roadblock coverage, it's a case

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that that PLE was just wow. Chef's case, it was

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fantastic. Which again, leads us in very nicely

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to the best. This is what I love about NXT every

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week. We get a slight recap and then we get straight

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into the first match. And this first match itself

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was Chelsea Green and Sol Ruka for the Women's

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United States Championship. And this was a banging

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way to start off the NXT after roadblock. Definitely

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a contention for match of the night already.

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So yeah, no, I think. We should crack straight

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in with this one, Adam. Yeah, definitely. I'm

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all game for that. So yeah, Chelsea Green defending

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her Women's United States Championship. Not a

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title we see on NXT very often. So a nice change

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to have somebody from main roster come down and

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give a member of NXT at their... their first

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glimpse at main roster, I suppose? Well, not

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just first glimpse at main roster, but an opportunity

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to have a go at another title belt that isn't

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necessarily, like you said, an NXT title. So

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it does give someone an opportunity to drag that

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back and see where they can go with it within,

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you know, NXT as well, considering that, yeah,

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it's one of those titles that seems to be floating

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or seems to be very kick -like. defended on every

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bit of WWE programming so far. Yeah, very much

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so. What a way to have a match, you know, a kickoff

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match in a show like this, then to have someone

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like Sol Ruka have an opportunity to walk away

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with that United States Championship. Massive,

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massive sort of opportunity for Sol Ruka there.

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Yeah, very much so. And she was not squandering

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one little bit of it um as you know what i know

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i was gonna admit i was uh like massively impressed

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with uh with how well she seemed to do with how

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well she seemed to seem to do with this match

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this is pretty much it's not it's labeled as

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a women's united states championship match but

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this is basically a three -on -one handicap for

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the purposes of There's not only is Chelsea Green

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in her match, but she came to the ring with her

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secret hervist, which is Piper, which she had

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at Elbephi with her this time, and Piper Neven

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as well. So theoretically, not only does Sol

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Ruka have to deal with Chelsea Green, but when

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she's on the outside, she's got to deal with

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the other two cross -eyed halfwits. Yeah, very

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much so. And yeah, I mean, So many different

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bits and pieces that went into that went into

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this match. It was just one hell of a way to

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start off I mean some of the spots that I had

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were at one point Sol Rooker delivered a beautiful

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missile top drop kick from the top rope onto

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Chelsea Green and Then we had like a few a few

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other bits as a couple of moons so Chelsea Green

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hit quite a nice code breaker in there and you

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saw a few attempts at the unprettier you saw

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a couple of yeah there was a lot of near falls

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a lot technical walks of counter wrestling if

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you get me it was sort of like one move was being

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counted into another move that was being recounted

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into something else and it was just a very good

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display of chain wrestling Yeah, very much which

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I'm not gonna lie to you guys. I'm not mad about

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I love seeing the technical stuff Don't get me

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wrong. I love watching the luchadors as well

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when the guys are flip around. I love watching

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the big guys You know, I love Majority of the

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aspects of professional wrestling. I'm not a

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massive fan of the stupidly hardcore stuff. I

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mean don't get me wrong It's nice to have that

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sharp factor, but when you have Have it sort

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of more often than not it kind of loses its it's

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factor I suppose but yeah this match was it had

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a little bit of everything to be fair and then

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it kind of yeah even some moves that you don't

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see a lot like Sol Rooker at one point used a

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cartwheel DDT now that was well executed well

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sold but just something different like normally

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we've we've made references over the last few

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episodes that this seems what last few weeks

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worth of episodes that they have like a move

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of the night or a move of the week so to speak

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where they've told you know you've got to do

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so many so many of these and we saw it with the

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sunset flip a few weeks ago that but we don't

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seem to have anything like that in this particular

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match it was all very different very fresh and

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it was yeah it was really nice to watch yeah

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and that's part of what i like about nxt is that

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they're not following the trend they're not they're

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not following what the main roster are doing

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it is something completely different it's that

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breath of fresh air that comes in with um otherwise

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if it was just a case that NXT was a follow -on

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to Raw which was then a follow -on to Smackdown

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and it just all sort of blended into one I think

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you'd find it really difficult to stay sort of

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engaged whereas NXT have all of their own storylines

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it just happens in certain points to intersect

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with everything else um do find though is that

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and we've said this a few times that NXT used

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to be the little brother it's no longer in that

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category and it's definitely I feel Raw is definitely

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one of the worst shows out of the three especially

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more recently but it does seem to be the weaker

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show it does seem to be but when you watch this

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and then you look at what's happening at the

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same time on Amazon Prime video with the AEW

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stuff. So, AEW have got the more shocking factors.

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They've got, I mean, they've got timeless Tony

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Storm, but NXT, no matter what AEW seem to do,

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have got them pinned every week on the ratings,

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and it's been a real, real joy to watch. I'm

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not here bashing AEW at all. Like I said, there's

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some aspects of AEW I really enjoyed. I really

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wish that we got to see timeless Tony Storm in

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WWE, but she's just too non -PG for that programming.

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Yeah, very much so. I mean, I'm not as familiar

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with things that are currently going on in AW,

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just because, yeah, like... I don't even know

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what I've seen on social media, to be fair. But

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some of the stuff that Tony Storm seems to be

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putting out on social media or social media seems

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to be feeding me. It's just absolutely incredible.

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Yeah. very much so. But if we sort of circle

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back just to this match, the one thing that Sol

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Ruka really seemed to struggle with during this

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match was at one point she gets sort of like

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knee blocked by Chelsea Green and that seems

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to do a real number on Sol's knee and seems to

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play a part in sort of the downfall of this match

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for her. Yeah, and it did just then become a

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target for Chelsea Green to keep kind of going

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back towards that injured knee and I mean, that's

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that's your typical heels Heel chicken shit move

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there cause an injury keep attacking it and using

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it to get the win which is Kind of it was really

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difficult the way they were gonna be able to

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do this because Chelsea Green's had a really

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good run with the women's US championship so

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Ruka is having a rate run in the tag division

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at the moment with Zarya. But as much as I'd

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love to see Sol Ruka take this championship,

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I don't think she's ready for a singles title

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at the moment. Plus it just wouldn't make sense

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to have Sol Ruka do so well in tag division to

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then thruster into a to then thrust her into

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a, into a single brawl. Yeah, and to be fair,

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it really fucked Zarya over as well because she'd

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have done nothing to deserve what was basically

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a massive kick in the cunt to her if they were

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to put a singles title on her tag partner. Yeah,

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exactly. She'd fall to the wayside, which would

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be a real shame because they are doing some fantastic

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character development with Zarya at the moment,

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with all these little VTs that they keep dropping

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in as they're sort of exploring their friendship

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together. But yeah, we've got to wait and see

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how all of that sort of pans out for her. But

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yeah, essentially... Chelsea Green ends up coming

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out of this match having retained her championship,

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which again, I don't think anybody really wouldn't

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have seen come in. And we move on, move on from

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that match into a, I've got down here a backstage

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promo as it goes with an intense looking. Sort

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of trick Williams, which is a site We're all

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sort of getting used to seeing at the moment

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is that since he lost his championship at New

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Year's Evil he has taken on a very sort of I'm

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gonna call it a focused persona, but it's it's

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more than that Yeah, and it's we're seeing trick

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Williams go to a dark place here and I think

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he's gonna he's going to use that to his to his

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advantage at some point like he's fed up of being

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the the nice guy trying to chase what he deserves

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now we're going to get the trick Williams is

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going to take what he fucking wants and I think

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this is the trick Williams that is going to be

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the one that pushes out towards you know once

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he's finished with Eddie Thorpe he's going to

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go back it over Femi for that title he's already

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told us that's what his plan is I just think

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he knows that he's not going to beat Oberfemi

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in this current form, he needs to summon the

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darker form of himself to pull that last little

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bit he needs out of his arse to be able to do

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it. Yeah and well unfortunately it's a case that

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Javon Evans is the sort of sounding board for

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a lot of Trick Williams aggression at the minute

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is that he's just not willing to entertain the

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Entertain the the twenty -something the twenty

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-something upstart. He's just yeah, he's not

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there for it I mean the original OG is trying

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to push himself in a place where he ain't needed

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Trick Williams knows he don't need Javon Evans

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Javon Evans needs trick Smith trick Williams

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a lot more than Trick Williams needs Javon Evans

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and it's gonna be one of those that eventually

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It all uh, I Don't know I don't I don't think

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that That he's gonna be too enamored with whatever

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Jovan Evans has got bring his way trick Williams

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is pretty much Set his sights on finishing off

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Eddie Thorpe and then heading off towards Oberfemme

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Yeah, and this is sort of what trick Williams

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comes into is the odd Yvonne Evans comes in with

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rather He sort of talks about being jumped last

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week by this mystery foursome that seems to pick

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and choose that very much sort of pick and choose

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their moments and Tricks basically just saying

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tricks for trick is for trick at the minute.

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He is solely focused on himself and It's not

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like they're just wiping out champions or they're

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wiping out number one contenders. They're just

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wiping out everyone. Yeah, they're just going

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for whomever takes their fancy at the time, I

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think. Guys, don't discriminate. No, definitely

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not. I think Trick Williams takes it a touch

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too far with this though, I will be completely

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honest. He says that when he's talking about

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going back and taking the title back off over

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to bring it back to himself, he talks about this

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title and says about the fact that it's not a

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title that Evans is ever going to win. I just

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don't think there's any real need for that, especially

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after Trick Williams Fox off Lexus King decides

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he wants to come in and and poke the bear essentially

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Yeah, the guy who has to get someone to spray

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paint his beard on for him because he's not capable

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of You know growing a real one Or what he can

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grows needs to be dyed every week to make it

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look And to be fair he tries his luck and he

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eats a Giovanna Evans Cracked to the chin basically

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just by saying, you know, he's Javon Evans is

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lucky. He's able to eat solid food again but

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uh Yeah, Javon Evans had had enough Alexis King

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in his smart mouth and give him a bit of a slap

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Which then moved us ironically into a VT for

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backlash Which you know, like I say the irony

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Lexus King got the backlash from Javon Evans

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after his comments Yeah, so obviously backlash

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being the next main roster pay -per -view after

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After WrestleMania generally And yeah, I can't

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quite remember where that one's take where they've

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said that one's taking place this year the event

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gimmick is it's the backlash of WrestleMania

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So that basically Lines that one up backlash

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2025 this year is in the Enterprise Center in

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st. Louis, Missouri on Saturday the 10th of May,

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so Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna have a bit of

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fun there and it will be John Cena's first appearance

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at backlash since 2009 That's presuming he's

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that's presuming he will be making an appearance

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at all Well, I'm guessing being it's you know,

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the the last time is now he's not gonna be missing

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any of the major PLEs He's gonna be missing more

00:17:27.230 --> 00:17:29.930
of the Monday Night Raw's and stuff like that.

00:17:30.329 --> 00:17:34.289
So Guarantee, you'll you'll have a match of some

00:17:34.289 --> 00:17:40.289
kind of backlash Yeah, this is true We went from

00:17:40.289 --> 00:17:45.289
there into a backstage promo with the D 'Angelo

00:17:45.289 --> 00:17:48.710
family getting... I've got this down as them

00:17:48.710 --> 00:17:52.349
basically getting hype for... Six -Man Tag Match.

00:17:53.289 --> 00:17:56.049
Yeah, the Six -Man Tag Match. Pretty much. My

00:17:56.049 --> 00:18:00.049
notes exactly here say NXT spotlight with D 'Angelo

00:18:00.049 --> 00:18:02.730
family hyping themselves up for the Six -Man

00:18:02.730 --> 00:18:06.529
Tag Match. Yeah, and this is when we find out

00:18:06.529 --> 00:18:10.289
that Tony D 'Angelo, the Don, is not going to

00:18:10.289 --> 00:18:13.950
be at ringside during their match. Yeah, that

00:18:13.950 --> 00:18:16.529
is basically because Stax feels that it's not

00:18:16.529 --> 00:18:20.049
safe to have the Don at ringside, especially

00:18:20.049 --> 00:18:23.730
with some of the damage to his back. Stax is

00:18:23.730 --> 00:18:26.789
still trying to work on this. Tony's got an injury

00:18:26.789 --> 00:18:31.150
from that cage match with, I want to say, Ridge

00:18:31.150 --> 00:18:35.519
Holland. But it's not it was with Sean Spears

00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:38.900
No, it wasn't it was Rich Holland. You were right

00:18:38.900 --> 00:18:41.619
the first time and then yeah Sean Spears interfered

00:18:41.619 --> 00:18:46.240
at the end But yes, he did with the betrayal

00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:51.680
from is he Dane? Yes, that's yeah. I've got it

00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:54.819
didn't even have to check my notes Yes, basically

00:18:54.819 --> 00:18:58.670
hyping themselves up for that match Tony's was

00:18:58.670 --> 00:19:01.509
staying backstage so he doesn't get into any

00:19:01.509 --> 00:19:05.569
more trouble with Shawn Spears in his back at

00:19:05.569 --> 00:19:11.069
ringside and Yeah, we slowly move from there

00:19:11.069 --> 00:19:17.329
to To an in -ring appearance But not much we've

00:19:17.329 --> 00:19:23.130
got an in -ring promo next from our new NXT Women's

00:19:23.130 --> 00:19:28.259
Champion And NXT Women's North American Champion,

00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:34.920
Stephanie Baker. Yeah, this is NXT's very first

00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:41.140
women's double champion. And to be fair, obviously

00:19:41.140 --> 00:19:43.839
I've just spoiled it. If you haven't watched

00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:45.859
last week's episode of NXT or listened to the

00:19:45.859 --> 00:19:50.079
podcast episode, last week's main event between

00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:53.579
Julia and Stephanie Baker was incredible, please.

00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:56.700
go back and listen to that section of the podcast

00:19:56.700 --> 00:19:58.660
even if that's the only section you listen to

00:19:58.660 --> 00:20:03.880
it was a fantastic fantastic match and uh and

00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:07.599
she she comes to the ring um both of the titles

00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:10.339
you know really kind of strutting her stuff but

00:20:10.339 --> 00:20:12.680
and basically saying you know she she's going

00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:14.599
to be a little bit honest with us because english

00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:16.799
isn't her first language so this this is going

00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:19.039
to be a little bit difficult for her but her

00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.599
first language is wrestling and You know when

00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:24.700
it comes to wrestling she says she could have

00:20:24.700 --> 00:20:28.200
gone anywhere in the pro wrestling circuit But

00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:30.900
she chose to come to NXT because she wanted to

00:20:30.900 --> 00:20:33.720
make history in the best women's division in

00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:38.019
professional wrestling and she stood there as

00:20:38.019 --> 00:20:42.579
a History maker with the first double women's

00:20:42.579 --> 00:20:47.079
champion NXT in NXT. Sorry And she's already

00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:49.259
done what she said she wanted to do. You know,

00:20:49.259 --> 00:20:52.000
she went one -on -one in Madison Square Gardens

00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:55.700
the the place that all wrestlers You know that

00:20:55.700 --> 00:20:56.960
that's they're like if they're not if you're

00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:58.819
not going to WrestleMania you want a main event

00:20:58.819 --> 00:21:01.220
Madison Square Gardens and she did it so that's

00:21:01.220 --> 00:21:04.960
the you know Another massive bit there and she's

00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:07.559
just gonna she proved she was number one last

00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:09.599
week and she's the best of the best and she's

00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:11.839
just waiting for her first opponent to kind of

00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:15.759
come out and Kind of go. Well, let's let's see

00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:19.740
how well you can you can be Defending both of

00:21:19.740 --> 00:21:25.799
those titles And on cue from there, we had Jordan

00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:31.680
Grace come out. Juggernaut. Yeah, 100%. She came

00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:35.259
out to stake her claim, but even then that was

00:21:35.259 --> 00:21:40.500
cut short because Jada Parker came out of absolutely

00:21:40.500 --> 00:21:46.740
nowhere and decimated the Juggernaut. Yeah, I

00:21:46.740 --> 00:21:51.049
was not expecting Jada Parker. to come out anyway

00:21:51.049 --> 00:21:56.789
but I was not expecting Jada Parker to whoop

00:21:56.789 --> 00:22:02.329
that ass like she not many people make Jordan

00:22:02.329 --> 00:22:05.950
Grace look as though she shouldn't be in a ring

00:22:05.950 --> 00:22:09.789
Jada Parker gave her a damn good run for his

00:22:09.789 --> 00:22:16.349
money yeah very much so and then proceeded basically

00:22:16.349 --> 00:22:23.089
to uh very loudly stake her claim instead and

00:22:23.089 --> 00:22:26.690
yeah I don't really have much more after that

00:22:26.690 --> 00:22:32.009
to be quite honest as we sort of went from that

00:22:32.009 --> 00:22:36.430
promo leaving sort of leaving it very open as

00:22:36.430 --> 00:22:41.890
to who the next basically who the next challenger

00:22:41.890 --> 00:22:44.130
is going to be and which title it is that they're

00:22:44.130 --> 00:22:47.109
actually challenging for Because that can be

00:22:47.109 --> 00:22:49.529
the only problem with a double champion is that

00:22:49.529 --> 00:22:51.690
yeah, somebody can go out stake a claim make

00:22:51.690 --> 00:22:54.210
a challenge And then they've got to decide which

00:22:54.210 --> 00:22:59.710
title they're challenging for Yeah, exactly But

00:22:59.710 --> 00:23:03.089
like you said we we had that we then moved on

00:23:03.089 --> 00:23:07.190
from there into a look backstage segment with

00:23:07.190 --> 00:23:09.950
a team that We're starting to see a little bit

00:23:09.950 --> 00:23:12.710
more of more recently and I'm actually quite

00:23:12.710 --> 00:23:16.569
enjoying watching them wrestle so our team hank

00:23:16.569 --> 00:23:21.210
and tank basically talking about how they got

00:23:21.210 --> 00:23:24.809
some advice off the hardy boys uh the previous

00:23:24.809 --> 00:23:30.210
week um and it was you know they needed to go

00:23:30.210 --> 00:23:33.069
a little bit more extreme with their wrestling

00:23:33.069 --> 00:23:37.029
and uh as they were hyping themselves up pretty

00:23:37.029 --> 00:23:42.000
much for their for the next match Which is Hank

00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:47.680
and Tank versus Joshua Briggs and Yoshiki Inamura

00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:52.079
Yeah, the only thing I wasn't expecting Hank

00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:55.099
and Tank to take so seriously away from the Hardys

00:23:55.099 --> 00:23:59.920
Was an abuse of narcotics as they seemed like

00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:05.029
they got way too much energy I mean, I'm not

00:24:05.029 --> 00:24:08.130
saying that Jeff knows where Macho Man Randy

00:24:08.130 --> 00:24:10.910
Savage's stash is hidden, but I'm pretty sure

00:24:10.910 --> 00:24:13.369
Jeff knows where Macho Man Randy Savage's stash

00:24:13.369 --> 00:24:16.170
was hidden. And I'm pretty sure that was also

00:24:16.170 --> 00:24:18.089
some of the advice he gave to Hank and Tank,

00:24:18.289 --> 00:24:24.369
but not on camera. Yeah, they just had a lot

00:24:24.369 --> 00:24:28.349
of energy to expend. And I mean, it's probably

00:24:28.349 --> 00:24:30.730
a good thing that their match was next, as yeah,

00:24:30.730 --> 00:24:34.359
the next match is the men's... Your men's tag

00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:37.420
team match which see as rich said sees Hank and

00:24:37.420 --> 00:24:43.259
tank versus Briggs and Inamura now Briggs and

00:24:43.259 --> 00:24:45.960
Inamura is a team that I'm actually they've grown

00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:49.099
on me a little bit. They seem a bit odd couple

00:24:49.099 --> 00:24:53.619
II It's it's not like it's not a coupling. I

00:24:53.619 --> 00:25:00.059
would have made Also very similar because you've

00:25:00.059 --> 00:25:03.130
got two completely different styles there that

00:25:03.130 --> 00:25:05.049
seem to work really, really well. But Briggs

00:25:05.049 --> 00:25:07.190
and Inamora also seem to work really, really

00:25:07.190 --> 00:25:12.309
well. I just don't like Inamora. Is it Inamora

00:25:12.309 --> 00:25:18.450
you're not a fan of? Yeah. He reminds me very

00:25:18.450 --> 00:25:23.170
much of a young version of Rikishi with the sumo

00:25:23.170 --> 00:25:26.950
style, but I just can't get behind it. I really

00:25:26.950 --> 00:25:33.410
struggle. All right, okay No fair enough each

00:25:33.410 --> 00:25:44.670
to their own and all that Again fair enough I

00:25:44.670 --> 00:25:47.509
mean this sort of broke this mo match broke down

00:25:47.509 --> 00:25:50.789
like seriously early doors This did this lost

00:25:50.789 --> 00:25:54.150
all of its structure pretty much straight away

00:25:54.150 --> 00:26:01.829
And I didn't get a huge amount in fact my notes

00:26:01.829 --> 00:26:05.430
are fucking ridiculously short for this match

00:26:05.430 --> 00:26:10.869
and I can never tell I can never tell if it's

00:26:10.869 --> 00:26:17.089
because I've watched it more as a fan than a

00:26:17.089 --> 00:26:20.730
more as a fan than a podcaster and forgotten

00:26:20.730 --> 00:26:23.869
to take a note or if there really just wasn't

00:26:23.869 --> 00:26:28.319
much to Take notes on see for me this match.

00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:31.819
There wasn't a lot to take notes on I've got

00:26:31.819 --> 00:26:34.640
over I've basically got that a brawl starts before

00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:38.200
the bell and when they finally get into the ring

00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:42.700
its Briggs and tank that start Whilst in a mora

00:26:42.700 --> 00:26:47.859
and hanker on the outside There's a definitely

00:26:47.859 --> 00:26:51.180
like your standard collar and collar and wrist

00:26:51.180 --> 00:26:54.240
lockup and stuff like that I've got here that

00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:57.640
Briggs hits a choke slam for a two count pretty

00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:02.660
early on before they start just re -exchanging

00:27:02.660 --> 00:27:10.079
between the collar and wrist ties. But apart

00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.720
from a few big boots and a boss man slam, there

00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:17.460
wasn't really a lot in it from both teams that

00:27:17.460 --> 00:27:20.019
I've made note of that was like, oh, that was

00:27:20.019 --> 00:27:24.410
amazing. a lot of it was all very basic simple

00:27:24.410 --> 00:27:30.369
technical wrestling with a few sort of iffy spots

00:27:30.369 --> 00:27:35.589
i suppose you could call them it felt very bland

00:27:35.589 --> 00:27:40.250
yeah not sort of not the sort of thing that we've

00:27:40.250 --> 00:27:44.269
grown to sort of get or we've gotten used to

00:27:44.269 --> 00:27:47.630
um and i don't know if this is just because we're

00:27:47.630 --> 00:27:51.609
coming off the hangover from Roadblock, but we've

00:27:51.609 --> 00:27:54.369
been set that fantastically high standard of

00:27:54.369 --> 00:27:59.529
what NXT matches can be as What that we saw at

00:27:59.529 --> 00:28:02.869
roadblock and then we've come crashing back down

00:28:02.869 --> 00:28:08.890
to earth this week because Yeah, it's it seems

00:28:08.890 --> 00:28:12.769
to be a bit of a running theme is that on paper

00:28:12.769 --> 00:28:16.710
the matches should be Fan -freaking -tastic.

00:28:17.269 --> 00:28:23.779
Yeah but in In practice They're not so much and

00:28:23.779 --> 00:28:26.059
I've noticed with NXT as well and I'm not sure

00:28:26.059 --> 00:28:29.119
if this is just me but when you have a Fantastic

00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.240
PLE bearing in mind not only if we just had roadblock,

00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:36.920
which is phenomenal, but New Year's Evil as well

00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:43.160
And Vengeance Day The first NXT after each PLE

00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:47.160
is always I've noticed dogshit and it's not the

00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:50.980
card that's bad it's just the production there's

00:28:50.980 --> 00:28:54.720
either production issues or there's like the

00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.579
matches just don't live up to what on paper they

00:28:57.579 --> 00:29:04.799
should be or it just doesn't seem to gel yeah

00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:10.559
it's there's always something and it's almost

00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:15.960
as if At least one part of the NXT machine relaxes

00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:20.140
after a PLE and they relax too much Whereas you

00:29:20.140 --> 00:29:23.200
don't see that in the main roster presentation

00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.420
Where they finish one PLE and they've already

00:29:27.420 --> 00:29:30.619
started building to the next one and the one

00:29:30.619 --> 00:29:33.240
after that So it's a case that we're not just

00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:38.039
going from PLE to PLE. We are Getting that we

00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:42.339
are Covering that ground essentially and making

00:29:42.339 --> 00:29:45.039
sure that we're looking ahead to what comes next.

00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:50.660
Whereas NXT don't seem to They they have a PLE

00:29:50.660 --> 00:29:56.000
the next then the next NXT, which is It's just

00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.039
a complete relaxed Steaming pile of shite normally

00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.480
Then they have a production meeting they get

00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.880
ripped a new one and then the next couple of

00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.579
weeks is brilliant PLE is fantastic, and the

00:30:07.579 --> 00:30:12.160
next episode is dogshit. But this is why I call

00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:18.660
it a hangover, is that the price we pay for having

00:30:18.660 --> 00:30:22.539
such a high quality PLE? Especially when some

00:30:22.539 --> 00:30:24.960
of the PLEs that NXT produce are better than

00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:29.700
the main roster PLEs. Yeah, this is it. Don't

00:30:29.700 --> 00:30:33.220
get me wrong, the motion chamber is like a...

00:30:33.130 --> 00:30:36.690
rule an unknown rule to that fact like it was

00:30:36.690 --> 00:30:41.069
definitely a fantastic PLE but nine times out

00:30:41.069 --> 00:30:44.670
of ten I will say NXT PLEs outshine main roster

00:30:44.670 --> 00:30:47.289
PLEs by a country mile if you take the top four

00:30:47.289 --> 00:30:54.970
out you take out Royal Rumble WrestleMania Elimination

00:30:54.970 --> 00:31:03.359
Chamber and possibly SummerSlam like Yeah, NXT

00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:09.440
will walk all over the PLEs. Yeah, it really...

00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:18.359
Yeah, very much so. We went from that, so...

00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.240
Can't remember if we covered... So, Briggs and

00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:27.019
Inamora won this match. Yeah. I personally think

00:31:27.019 --> 00:31:30.980
Hank and Tank did more for it. Most of my notes...

00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.380
Revolve around Hank and Tank rather than Briggs

00:31:33.380 --> 00:31:36.880
and Inamora But you know, I am just a guy that

00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.740
I'm just a fan that makes a podcast. I'm not

00:31:39.740 --> 00:31:44.839
a writer for WWE Even though I have spotted on

00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.880
indeed. They are actually looking for Writers

00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.779
I was tempted but we don't need our truth -winning

00:31:52.779 --> 00:31:57.720
12 championships in 12 months You actually being

00:31:57.720 --> 00:31:59.599
serious have you seen on indeed that they're

00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:03.599
looking for writers I have seen a post on social

00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:06.500
media that was advertising the fact that there

00:32:06.500 --> 00:32:10.720
was an advert on Indeed looking for WWE recruiting

00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.720
writers. Say that's not showing up in my Indeed

00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:20.119
references. Yeah, no, I'm pretty sure I saw a

00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:27.960
post about it on X. Anyway. We go from there

00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.759
into a backstage promo from what I've got here,

00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:35.519
which is Eddie thought going basically going

00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.059
into the locker room and clearing it out like

00:32:38.059 --> 00:32:44.980
he's just dropped his ass and Yeah, like it's

00:32:44.980 --> 00:32:48.019
a case that everybody clears out as Eddie thought

00:32:48.019 --> 00:32:53.980
walks in barring Ridge Holland Well, it didn't

00:32:53.980 --> 00:32:57.539
occur to me until this point that Ridge Holland

00:32:57.539 --> 00:33:00.559
and Eddie Thorpe have actually got a fair amount

00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.940
in common in terms of like character arcs and

00:33:03.940 --> 00:33:09.640
things like that Yeah, they have had very very

00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.519
similar journeys throughout their Throughout

00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:19.700
their wrestling careers So I have just found

00:33:19.700 --> 00:33:22.960
the the post that I was talking about so to be

00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:28.410
a WWE writer You need five years of writing for

00:33:28.410 --> 00:33:31.690
TV or film experience. Producing and directing

00:33:31.690 --> 00:33:35.609
experience is a plus. Professional TV or film

00:33:35.609 --> 00:33:38.710
staff experience preferred. Experience in live

00:33:38.710 --> 00:33:42.789
TV production. Previous experience working with

00:33:42.789 --> 00:33:45.750
on -screen talent, creative writers and producers.

00:33:46.630 --> 00:33:49.630
An understanding of WWE's audience demographic

00:33:49.630 --> 00:33:54.019
and psychographic preferred. And then you need

00:33:54.019 --> 00:33:58.359
a BA or a BS in film, TV, drama, media studies,

00:33:58.619 --> 00:34:01.119
communications or a similar field of study or

00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:03.900
validated experience in lieu of a degree preferred.

00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:08.780
I'd still put my CV in. I've got none of that,

00:34:08.780 --> 00:34:11.860
but I'd still put it in. I mean, I'd put it in

00:34:11.860 --> 00:34:14.659
just for the email from WWE to say that we're

00:34:14.659 --> 00:34:16.719
not, you know, thank you for the application,

00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:18.840
but I'm not being considered at this moment.

00:34:20.139 --> 00:34:23.610
Well. It's just gonna be a case of I'll also

00:34:23.610 --> 00:34:25.909
put down the fact that we have this tip that

00:34:25.909 --> 00:34:29.190
have this friggin podcast And say yeah, listen

00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:30.989
to all these episodes and tell me I don't have

00:34:30.989 --> 00:34:33.750
an understanding of the WWE universe I'm part

00:34:33.750 --> 00:34:36.869
of that universe you bitch and I called and you

00:34:36.869 --> 00:34:39.329
were in Jade Cargill six weeks before you put

00:34:39.329 --> 00:34:52.800
it on TV Yeah, pretty much Sort of saying there

00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:57.440
that they both need to take care both Ridge Holland

00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:01.420
and Eddie Thorpe need to take care of business

00:35:01.420 --> 00:35:04.480
Regarding the difference between the wrestlers

00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.760
and sports entertainers both of these guys are

00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.440
very much They are wrestlers. They're not there

00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:13.159
to be clowning around. They're like Gunther They're

00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.619
not they're not the J you shows of NXT these

00:35:15.619 --> 00:35:20.050
guys they they're not eating the street and They're

00:35:20.050 --> 00:35:22.590
for stupidity. They're there for titles and kicking

00:35:22.590 --> 00:35:29.110
asses So It's important to realize Ridge Holland

00:35:29.110 --> 00:35:31.250
both Ridge Holland and Eddie Thorpe have got

00:35:31.250 --> 00:35:33.670
matches coming up Eddie Thorpe's in the main

00:35:33.670 --> 00:35:36.469
event Which is an NXT underground match versus

00:35:36.469 --> 00:35:39.130
trick Williams right at the end of the card and

00:35:39.130 --> 00:35:44.769
we've also got Ridge Holland facing Ricky Saints

00:35:44.769 --> 00:35:51.760
in his NXT singles debut. And I hope to hell

00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.099
that Ricky Saints solo debut is better than that

00:35:55.099 --> 00:35:58.360
tag match we had last week. If that is the case,

00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.900
we've already watched it but for you guys. We

00:36:01.900 --> 00:36:04.480
already know the answer to that and we'll get

00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.000
into that in a second because we've still got

00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.679
to cover. match three on the card which was the

00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:14.780
six -person tag team match between the D 'Angelo

00:36:14.780 --> 00:36:18.739
family and up to now we've been calling this

00:36:18.739 --> 00:36:22.820
the Spears family or the Sean Spears family they've

00:36:22.820 --> 00:36:25.519
actually designated themselves a name now calling

00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.380
themselves the Culling which I think is quite

00:36:29.380 --> 00:36:33.849
a cool little name I'm not gonna lie It's very

00:36:33.849 --> 00:36:36.530
much in for in keeping with their sort of their

00:36:36.530 --> 00:36:47.369
aesthetic as it goes And yeah, I mean Again,

00:36:47.409 --> 00:36:49.269
this seems to be a bit of a running theme for

00:36:49.269 --> 00:36:54.630
NXT for NXT this week is that or? For WWE in

00:36:54.630 --> 00:36:57.550
general actually is that the action started before

00:36:57.550 --> 00:37:01.030
the bell Yeah, I mean I'm all down for a jump

00:37:01.030 --> 00:37:06.019
in the bow you know it kind of it shows that

00:37:06.019 --> 00:37:10.579
these guys they're not that they're in just as

00:37:10.579 --> 00:37:13.019
engrossed in what they're doing as we are and

00:37:13.019 --> 00:37:16.039
when they can't wait to fight we can't wait to

00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:20.079
watch and you say yeah it it went off without

00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:23.579
a well the bell didn't even start when the bell

00:37:23.579 --> 00:37:26.179
did eventually ring we ended up with stacks in

00:37:26.179 --> 00:37:33.710
the ring with Nico Vance I'll be honest with

00:37:33.710 --> 00:37:37.070
you for this match again. I know full well I

00:37:37.070 --> 00:37:41.750
watch this as a fan and not a podcaster It is

00:37:41.750 --> 00:37:47.369
a case that I struggle to keep up with like Different

00:37:47.369 --> 00:37:50.710
competitors, although there was one that particularly

00:37:50.710 --> 00:37:55.309
stood out and I'm really glad he stood out Which

00:37:55.309 --> 00:37:58.860
one's up? Because up to now we've struggled to

00:37:58.860 --> 00:38:05.340
we've struggled to know and retain his name That's

00:38:05.340 --> 00:38:13.320
the one absolute Dark horse of the D 'Angelo

00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:17.340
family that guy that guy put on an absolute clinic

00:38:17.340 --> 00:38:20.800
on how to How to give a first impression in a

00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:25.260
wrestling match We've not we haven't seen him

00:38:25.260 --> 00:38:28.039
in singles action. We haven't really seen much

00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:35.019
of him And yeah, he popped up and was like, yeah,

00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.340
I've got this don't worry about it You guys take

00:38:38.340 --> 00:38:42.880
a nap. Oh, I've got this done. I Say I have noted

00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.659
here that this was confusing as fuck to make

00:38:46.659 --> 00:38:52.480
notes on but it was a hell of a match and I really,

00:38:52.579 --> 00:38:57.480
really did enjoy what was going on here. The

00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:01.000
in -ring performance up to a certain point, and

00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.059
I'm gonna mention the certain point and call

00:39:03.059 --> 00:39:06.079
it the certain point for a few moments, but up

00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.719
until the certain point happened, the in -ring

00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:11.380
matches, yes, wasn't a lot to make a note of,

00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:15.260
but there was a lot of fast tags, a lot of great

00:39:15.260 --> 00:39:20.519
counter -wrestling that really just... Had you

00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:25.659
engrossed if you weren't like Me and Adam say

00:39:25.659 --> 00:39:28.199
we've watched these matches as fans over podcasters

00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.659
like this match was one of them But you get so

00:39:30.659 --> 00:39:34.000
sucked into what's going on and there is so much

00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.940
going on in front of you Try to like make notes

00:39:36.940 --> 00:39:39.340
as impossible. No, I shorthand as much as I possibly

00:39:39.340 --> 00:39:45.500
can but Even then with this it was it was incredibly

00:39:45.500 --> 00:39:49.389
difficult trying to shorten names And I've had

00:39:49.389 --> 00:39:51.610
to stop doing that for certain wrestlers because

00:39:51.610 --> 00:39:54.210
I've noticed that if I shorten CM Punk down It

00:39:54.210 --> 00:39:56.489
becomes CP and I don't be looking through my

00:39:56.489 --> 00:39:58.230
notes and it's talking about a small time with

00:39:58.230 --> 00:40:06.210
CP Yeah, fair enough But no this this match was

00:40:06.210 --> 00:40:08.429
really really good and then I said we got to

00:40:08.429 --> 00:40:11.429
the point the point I was talking about is there

00:40:11.429 --> 00:40:14.510
was a little section where we see Tony D 'Angelo

00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.619
backstage in the same place that Stacks left

00:40:17.619 --> 00:40:20.880
him earlier. He's watching the match, I'm guessing

00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:23.659
on a TV screen at the back kind of seeing what's

00:40:23.659 --> 00:40:27.800
going on. And then all of a sudden, we see the

00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:32.880
four masked assailants again, come in and lay

00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:36.659
a whooping on the former North American champion

00:40:36.659 --> 00:40:40.840
Tony D 'Angelo backstage. This was being televised

00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:44.699
into the arena on the Tytron. which obviously

00:40:44.699 --> 00:40:49.880
then took the distraction or distracted the D

00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.219
'Angelo family away from what the culling were

00:40:53.219 --> 00:41:01.460
doing. This allowed Vance to basically power

00:41:01.460 --> 00:41:04.860
slam Luca Crucifino in the centre of the ring

00:41:04.860 --> 00:41:11.480
to pick up the three count for the culling. while

00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:14.280
the rest of the family are sat reeling at the

00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.659
fact that Tony D 'Angelo has just been done over

00:41:17.659 --> 00:41:22.760
like a Well, that mob boss just got whacked pretty

00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.420
hard by four Four rivals in the back. Let's put

00:41:27.420 --> 00:41:33.639
it that way Yeah, somebody that shouldn't really

00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:39.090
be classed as defenseless was rendered Utterly

00:41:39.090 --> 00:41:43.909
defenseless backstage and the former North American

00:41:43.909 --> 00:41:48.469
champion at Tony D 'Angelo well, I mean, I'm

00:41:48.469 --> 00:41:50.809
not gonna say that he was recovering from injury

00:41:50.809 --> 00:41:56.110
because he was Well enough to compete in a match

00:41:56.110 --> 00:42:00.190
when you lost when he lost his lost his title,

00:42:00.190 --> 00:42:03.429
so Yeah, well, he definitely gonna be feeling

00:42:03.429 --> 00:42:05.769
a little bit sore tomorrow morning because he

00:42:05.769 --> 00:42:11.460
went through that table pretty hard oh 100 %

00:42:11.460 --> 00:42:13.619
obviously don't get me wrong we know those tables

00:42:13.619 --> 00:42:18.340
are made to just to collapse very easily like

00:42:18.340 --> 00:42:23.119
i'm well you say that that one that um ria ripley

00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.159
tried Tossing both EO Sky and Bianca Belair did

00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:29.760
not break yet Sometimes you see them where Xavier

00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.800
Woods has gone past one and farted and it snapped

00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:38.460
and he's had to throw himself into it That is

00:42:38.460 --> 00:42:42.380
the difference between a standard table and a

00:42:42.380 --> 00:42:49.039
gimmicked table Either that or Xavier Woods is

00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:54.230
packing some farts could be part of it as well,

00:42:54.230 --> 00:43:02.710
to be fair. But yeah, that distraction by the

00:43:02.710 --> 00:43:06.610
masked foursome, that basically spelled the end

00:43:06.610 --> 00:43:10.329
for the D 'Angelo family, and yeah, they pick

00:43:10.329 --> 00:43:14.090
up another L. They pick up another last to the

00:43:14.090 --> 00:43:18.409
culling, and I'm gonna be honest, I don't think

00:43:18.409 --> 00:43:23.469
it's gonna be... Are we starting to see the decline

00:43:23.469 --> 00:43:27.849
of the D 'Angelo family? I think we are. I think

00:43:27.849 --> 00:43:30.929
this could be the beginning of the end for them.

00:43:31.010 --> 00:43:33.369
I'm not going to lie. I think if this is the

00:43:33.369 --> 00:43:35.030
way that's going to go, I think we're going to

00:43:35.030 --> 00:43:39.130
end up with Stacks and D 'Angelo running a tag

00:43:39.130 --> 00:43:43.389
on their own without Crucifino and I think Crucifino

00:43:43.389 --> 00:43:45.909
will end up going on a really poor singles run.

00:43:48.619 --> 00:43:51.139
Yeah, I've got a feeling they'll put him on a

00:43:51.139 --> 00:43:52.920
really poor singles run and then they'll release

00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.159
him in the next stage of releases. He was very,

00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:59.500
very good in this match, but he has not done

00:43:59.500 --> 00:44:01.539
enough in the time the D 'Angelo family have

00:44:01.539 --> 00:44:03.840
been around that we've been doing this podcast

00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:07.480
and watching NXT. That really makes me think

00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:12.659
he deserves either a decent push or a stay in

00:44:12.659 --> 00:44:15.699
the company. I don't think he's going to go too

00:44:15.699 --> 00:44:20.570
much further before they get rid of him. possibly

00:44:20.570 --> 00:44:24.269
not possibly not and it's a shame because what

00:44:24.269 --> 00:44:28.230
he's demonstrated now could very well have been

00:44:28.230 --> 00:44:32.630
demonstrated weeks ago yeah and I think it would

00:44:32.630 --> 00:44:34.429
have built the hype around the D 'Angelo family

00:44:34.429 --> 00:44:36.610
even more seeing how strong they are with that

00:44:36.610 --> 00:44:40.289
extra person showing what he can do rather than

00:44:40.289 --> 00:44:42.969
the fact he's just been used as a spare deck

00:44:42.969 --> 00:44:46.530
in a pawn studio mate he's very rarely used he's

00:44:46.530 --> 00:44:49.449
just put in stand here don't say nothing everyone

00:44:49.449 --> 00:44:51.050
else is going to talk and then you can wander

00:44:51.050 --> 00:44:54.030
off at the end and that's that's pretty much

00:44:54.030 --> 00:44:58.230
how he's being used this is it uh we'll move

00:44:58.230 --> 00:45:01.690
on from there anyway uh the next bit i've got

00:45:01.690 --> 00:45:06.389
down here was a backstage uh promo between uh

00:45:06.389 --> 00:45:11.750
nxt general manager ava and uh double champion

00:45:11.750 --> 00:45:16.010
stephanie vacu it's got in there Match next week

00:45:16.010 --> 00:45:21.449
before between the cure and Parker for the NXT

00:45:21.449 --> 00:45:24.309
winnings title Yes, so they're busy trying to

00:45:24.309 --> 00:45:27.230
work that one out when the mouthpiece of NXT

00:45:27.230 --> 00:45:32.090
herself comes in After that conversation we get

00:45:32.090 --> 00:45:34.610
to hear but what falan handy basically interrupts

00:45:34.610 --> 00:45:38.769
going well wait a minute You know She's got her

00:45:38.769 --> 00:45:43.150
much against Jada next week for the NXT title

00:45:43.659 --> 00:45:47.699
when am I getting my rematch for the women's

00:45:47.699 --> 00:45:51.719
North American title that I haven't had yet and

00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.960
Ava's like well, it's not gonna be next week

00:45:54.960 --> 00:46:00.420
because Stephanie's got a match and Fallon kind

00:46:00.420 --> 00:46:02.519
of goes well that's a bit unfair at which point

00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:05.599
Stephanie goes do you know what? Have your rematch.

00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:09.679
I don't care. I will see you next week I will

00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.420
do my double duties where she will be defending

00:46:12.420 --> 00:46:17.579
both the NXT Women's title and the Women's North

00:46:17.579 --> 00:46:21.639
American title next week. So she's definitely

00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:25.460
starting off, hopefully, how she wants to continue.

00:46:25.699 --> 00:46:29.219
In her second week as double champion, she's

00:46:29.219 --> 00:46:32.599
defending both of those titles. One of them,

00:46:33.460 --> 00:46:36.760
we are told a little bit later on, slight spoiler

00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:38.619
incoming, but it's not too much of a spoiler.

00:46:38.860 --> 00:46:42.139
We are told that the first match of next week's

00:46:42.139 --> 00:46:45.820
NXT Stephanie will be in that one and then she

00:46:45.820 --> 00:46:50.219
will and I believe that is for the Women's NXT

00:46:50.219 --> 00:46:52.840
title against Jada Parker in the first match

00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:56.039
and then the main event of next week's NXT will

00:46:56.039 --> 00:47:00.320
be Fallon Henley versus Stephanie Vacar for the

00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:06.190
Women's North American. Yeah, very much so. So

00:47:06.190 --> 00:47:08.469
Fallon Henley's getting her rematch after long

00:47:08.469 --> 00:47:12.329
last and Yeah, Jada Parker's getting a match

00:47:12.329 --> 00:47:14.750
as well and Stephanie Vecchio is probably going

00:47:14.750 --> 00:47:16.849
to be due to have a week off after that I would

00:47:16.849 --> 00:47:19.690
imagine I'm just hoping they don't do a dirty

00:47:19.690 --> 00:47:21.769
and don't have a drop one of those titles next

00:47:21.769 --> 00:47:24.110
week because she's done She had a phenomenal

00:47:24.110 --> 00:47:26.909
match at Madison Square Gardens and I will not

00:47:26.909 --> 00:47:29.650
emphasize this enough like that match was absolutely

00:47:29.650 --> 00:47:33.349
incredible For them to do a dirty and make a

00:47:33.349 --> 00:47:37.329
drop on two weeks later would be a real disservice

00:47:37.329 --> 00:47:43.269
to Stephanie Baker. Well, as it stands, multiple

00:47:43.269 --> 00:47:48.010
championship runs don't generally tend to last

00:47:48.010 --> 00:47:50.590
very long. And realistically, if she's going

00:47:50.590 --> 00:47:53.769
to drop any of those titles, it stands to reason

00:47:53.769 --> 00:47:56.610
that she will drop the North American title rather

00:47:56.610 --> 00:48:00.039
than the NXT Women's Championship. And the reason

00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:06.440
I say that is because that is the title she's

00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.900
held the longest. Yes, and it's the one that

00:48:09.900 --> 00:48:13.320
they know that they can give back to Fallon Henley

00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:17.860
and not do it too much damage. Where if they

00:48:17.860 --> 00:48:21.380
drop the women's NXT title from Julia to Stephanie

00:48:21.380 --> 00:48:23.780
Vaker and then two weeks later drop it from Stephanie

00:48:23.780 --> 00:48:28.019
to Jada Parker. they're not doing that title

00:48:28.019 --> 00:48:30.019
that the service that you know that was given

00:48:30.019 --> 00:48:32.380
that title the respect it deserves being the

00:48:32.380 --> 00:48:37.159
main title for the women on that program No,

00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:41.000
and I agree with that and Yeah, I don't think

00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:45.519
that Ultimately, I think that this is gonna have

00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:49.260
Stephanie vacua coming out of this looking so

00:48:49.260 --> 00:48:51.360
much stronger than she was ever going to look

00:48:51.449 --> 00:48:55.369
Previously yeah on the basis that she will end

00:48:55.369 --> 00:48:59.789
up retaining both titles Simultaneously you think

00:48:59.789 --> 00:49:03.849
she's gonna retain both I Don't think I think

00:49:03.849 --> 00:49:07.690
if she had to drop one or the other She dropped

00:49:07.690 --> 00:49:10.989
the North American title, but I just don't think

00:49:10.989 --> 00:49:15.869
they would um Unlike you I am sort of hoping

00:49:15.869 --> 00:49:19.070
that they don't do a dirty enough to have a drop

00:49:19.070 --> 00:49:25.030
both titles And yeah, I'm just, I just don't

00:49:25.030 --> 00:49:31.449
see it happening. No, really don't. So yeah,

00:49:31.449 --> 00:49:33.829
that leads into what is going to be the start

00:49:33.829 --> 00:49:36.590
of a really, really good episode of NXT next

00:49:36.590 --> 00:49:41.369
week. And we move from there into a match between

00:49:41.369 --> 00:49:49.269
Carmen Petrovich and JC Jane from Fallon Henley's

00:49:49.269 --> 00:49:53.739
group of cronies. His name I can't remember off

00:49:53.739 --> 00:49:57.000
the top of my head Michael influence. That's

00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:03.699
the one Yeah Yeah, for some reason I just can't

00:50:03.699 --> 00:50:05.480
seem to keep that one, but we see a lot of fun

00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.559
and Henley We don't see a lot of the other guys.

00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:09.940
So it's nice the fact that now we're gonna see

00:50:09.940 --> 00:50:13.800
JC Jane get an Opportunity to jump into the ring

00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.079
against someone who's been on a bit of a run

00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:21.389
recently actually Well, this is the second match

00:50:21.389 --> 00:50:27.610
that we've seen JC Jane wrestle in since the

00:50:27.610 --> 00:50:30.809
second singles match certainly since we started

00:50:30.809 --> 00:50:35.349
doing finishes and factions and it's a case that

00:50:35.349 --> 00:50:42.570
I I mean I'm not against like JC Jane in any

00:50:42.570 --> 00:50:46.260
way shape or form very talented The one person

00:50:46.260 --> 00:50:49.099
I would like to see, just to say that I've seen

00:50:49.099 --> 00:50:52.300
her do something other than basically stand around

00:50:52.300 --> 00:50:56.840
and look pretty, is Jasmine Nix. The other member

00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.579
of Fatal... So you've got Fallon Henley, JC Jane,

00:51:00.579 --> 00:51:06.840
and Jasmine Nix as the... as the three members

00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:11.280
of Fatal Influence. And so far, we saw at the

00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:14.219
very... towards the beginning of our tenure doing...

00:51:14.489 --> 00:51:18.150
watching NXT and doing this podcast Jasmine nicks

00:51:18.150 --> 00:51:20.309
used to come out with a facial mask on that used

00:51:20.309 --> 00:51:28.190
to make dashing Cody Rhodes look good and She's

00:51:28.190 --> 00:51:31.530
now stopped wearing this mask with no explanation

00:51:31.530 --> 00:51:36.670
whatsoever and hasn't really done an awful lot

00:51:36.670 --> 00:51:41.030
else other than make appearances and Back the

00:51:41.030 --> 00:51:45.559
other two up to a certain degree Well, yeah,

00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.760
and it's a little bit It's a little bit confusing

00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:55.260
why they seem to be giving her not a lot of Time

00:51:55.260 --> 00:52:00.019
and then they give her quite a big match doesn't

00:52:00.019 --> 00:52:05.280
know doesn't quite work with me to be fair So

00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.940
this was all born from I think they said it was

00:52:08.940 --> 00:52:17.420
about a month ago and I forget what the... I

00:52:17.420 --> 00:52:20.860
didn't make a note of what the run -up to it

00:52:20.860 --> 00:52:25.360
was under the assumption that I'd remember and

00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:31.159
I'd forgotten. So, yeah, that went well. But,

00:52:31.619 --> 00:52:35.340
yeah, I mean, this match between Carmen Petrovic

00:52:35.340 --> 00:52:40.099
and JC Jane, I got this, I've got to admit, I

00:52:40.099 --> 00:52:44.519
got three notes out of this match. One of them

00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:47.840
is that JC Jane sort of dominates early doors

00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:51.840
Yeah from what I can remember of this match Carmen

00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:55.539
Petrovic doesn't really get going at all No,

00:52:55.539 --> 00:52:58.619
not really I definitely agree with you on that

00:52:58.619 --> 00:53:04.460
one My notes are really really short for this

00:53:04.460 --> 00:53:06.679
one I got at one point there was a really nice

00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:11.659
double closed line which drops both of the competitors

00:53:11.659 --> 00:53:14.059
in the ring, but up until that point there was

00:53:14.059 --> 00:53:17.480
no high spots that I generally thought were worth

00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:22.320
making a note of. I know that Carmen Petrovich

00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:25.719
is one of those that I struggle with because

00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:34.039
I feel like I should like her, but I'm not really...

00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.300
There hasn't been enough character development

00:53:37.300 --> 00:53:41.219
for me to have for her to be For me to be a fan

00:53:41.219 --> 00:53:47.039
of her. I can root for her in a match But it's

00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:49.219
very much a case that there isn't an awful lot

00:53:49.219 --> 00:53:53.860
of character development there Now one of the

00:53:53.860 --> 00:53:57.639
big turning points of this match for me was that

00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:03.139
towards the end we see Ashanti Adonis Carmen

00:54:03.139 --> 00:54:06.519
Petrovich is Boyfriend, on -screen boyfriend.

00:54:07.820 --> 00:54:11.460
Are we talking about the chair? Yeah. Yeah, so

00:54:11.460 --> 00:54:14.159
that was after the double clothesline. So when

00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:16.119
they both hit each other with the clothesline

00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:20.900
and both lying on the floor, Ashanti Theodonis

00:54:20.900 --> 00:54:23.599
put the chair into the ring trying to get Carmen

00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:28.260
Petrovic to hit JC Jane with it. He was basically

00:54:28.260 --> 00:54:30.059
like, don't worry about the wind, just cause

00:54:30.059 --> 00:54:33.539
as much damage as you can. JC Jane was like,

00:54:33.579 --> 00:54:36.199
I'm sorry Carmen Petrovich was like, no, I'm

00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:38.559
not doing it that way. I'm gonna win clean I'm

00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:41.840
not taking a dirty win throws the chair back

00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:47.519
out of the ring towards him and Goes to turn

00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:51.219
around to carry on a match for when JC Jane hit

00:54:51.219 --> 00:54:55.079
the rolling encore for a three count Which basically

00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:59.260
meant that yes, JC Jane one and Ashanti theodonis

00:54:59.579 --> 00:55:04.039
Cost is misses a rather large win. I did put

00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:07.340
on the end of this that it wasn't You know, it

00:55:07.340 --> 00:55:09.639
wasn't the greatest of matches. It wasn't particularly

00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:13.639
long And the ending was probably the best part

00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:20.039
about it Yeah, not the fuck that it ended was

00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:23.059
a good thing It was just is it like I said, it

00:55:23.059 --> 00:55:25.000
wasn't a great match. It wasn't a bad match,

00:55:25.019 --> 00:55:28.099
but it wasn't a great match But the ending to

00:55:28.099 --> 00:55:30.579
the match was actually quite good the way they

00:55:30.579 --> 00:55:34.440
worked that out and the distraction Idea was

00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.519
was good. I liked it. I just don't think and

00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.039
it was implemented like reasonably well I just

00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.800
don't think it was implemented As like the best

00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:46.219
it could have been but I think if they did it

00:55:46.219 --> 00:55:48.059
the best they could have done it It would have

00:55:48.059 --> 00:55:51.059
been the only spot in what would have been quite

00:55:51.059 --> 00:55:53.780
a poor match if that was the only decently like

00:55:53.780 --> 00:56:04.929
part to it Yeah, it was really a sort of a nothing

00:56:04.929 --> 00:56:07.050
match for me. I just feel like they could have

00:56:07.050 --> 00:56:10.610
done possibly so much more with it. It's one

00:56:10.610 --> 00:56:12.230
of those that when I wake up in the morning and

00:56:12.230 --> 00:56:14.050
the first thing I'm going to think of is not

00:56:14.050 --> 00:56:16.730
going to be the Carmen Petrovich versus JC Jane

00:56:16.730 --> 00:56:21.409
match. Yeah, it's not the one that I'm racing

00:56:21.409 --> 00:56:25.469
around to. To talk about although that isn't

00:56:25.469 --> 00:56:27.409
the last time that we're going to mention that

00:56:27.409 --> 00:56:30.429
but we'll come back to that in a second as moving

00:56:30.429 --> 00:56:37.050
on from that match and We go into a another backstage

00:56:37.050 --> 00:56:41.349
promo with Hank and tank. Yeah, so we went into

00:56:41.349 --> 00:56:46.670
the changing rooms Yeah, they were they were

00:56:46.670 --> 00:56:48.550
trying to work out more ways about how they could

00:56:48.550 --> 00:56:50.849
improve and thinking about which other tag teams

00:56:50.849 --> 00:56:55.239
they could ask for advice when Wesley and his

00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:59.079
group of bitches make an entrance into the locker

00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.699
room. Now, I only made a note of Wesley because

00:57:01.699 --> 00:57:03.659
I didn't have enough time to make a note of all

00:57:03.659 --> 00:57:09.079
three of them because I was on a bit of a time

00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:12.460
limit watching the last little section of NXT

00:57:12.460 --> 00:57:17.039
this week. But it is Wesley's standard group

00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:19.880
of homies. which Adam is going to fill us in

00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:21.980
on who they are because he's got it written down

00:57:21.980 --> 00:57:27.420
for sure. We had Wesley, Tyson Dupont and Tyreek

00:57:27.420 --> 00:57:32.780
Igwe. That is the ones. Yeah, always seem to

00:57:32.780 --> 00:57:35.019
forget their names. They never really seem to

00:57:35.019 --> 00:57:36.760
click with me, but we haven't really seen them

00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.820
in a full, full premise yet. We've seen, we've

00:57:39.820 --> 00:57:42.059
seen them all individually in matches, but some

00:57:42.059 --> 00:57:46.440
of them haven't been particularly great. Yeah,

00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:49.639
nothing Wesley was involved in that rather poor

00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:56.840
tag match that Ricky Saints debuted in Yeah,

00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.079
that's not I don't want to fall asleep on another

00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:05.380
podcast episode Fine until that point nobody

00:58:05.380 --> 00:58:09.320
knew but us Yeah, clever editing had taken that

00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:12.219
bit out, but you dropped yourself in it there

00:58:12.219 --> 00:58:16.659
Talk about dropping ourselves in it though So

00:58:16.659 --> 00:58:19.199
we've got Hank and Tank backstage. Wesley comes

00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:21.199
in and says they should stick to what they're

00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:23.860
good at, which by the looks of it is eating.

00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:29.280
Which was a bit of a below the belt comment from

00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:31.780
Wesley. They're calling Hank and Tank fat, you

00:58:31.780 --> 00:58:38.420
know, like to body shame people in 2025. Don't

00:58:38.420 --> 00:58:40.260
really know what to say back to that because

00:58:40.260 --> 00:58:42.420
we have a tendency to body shame one another.

00:58:42.889 --> 00:58:46.210
We have a tendency to make jokes about my vastly

00:58:46.210 --> 00:58:50.050
oversized nostrils and what they are attached

00:58:50.050 --> 00:58:54.510
to. Yes. It could be worse though. At least we

00:58:54.510 --> 00:58:56.269
haven't mentioned the fact that my ears look

00:58:56.269 --> 00:58:58.789
like they could make Prince or King Charles my

00:58:58.789 --> 00:59:03.269
father. I mean, I try not to mention things like

00:59:03.269 --> 00:59:06.929
that, realistically. It's alright, I get free

00:59:06.929 --> 00:59:13.239
Sky TV off these bad boys, it's fine. but yeah

00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:16.300
we'll digress from one boring subject into another

00:59:16.300 --> 00:59:21.280
one um our next match before we get too much

00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:24.519
into it they nxt have got this really cool thing

00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:27.760
going right cool this is the match here's a vt

00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.900
here's another vt we're back to your match it

00:59:30.900 --> 00:59:34.059
started before the vt's finished so you've missed

00:59:34.059 --> 00:59:37.659
the first 10 minutes um so i've got next that

00:59:37.659 --> 00:59:40.739
it was actually a backstage promo where we see

00:59:40.739 --> 00:59:45.619
um It's basically a Jada Parker monologue. Yes,

00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:48.960
it's Jada Parker is talking about her title match

00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:52.519
with Stephanie. They could Because it's stand

00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:55.460
and deliver season and Jordan grace fucked around

00:59:55.460 --> 00:59:59.019
and filed out and basically Jada is going to

00:59:59.019 --> 01:00:05.019
walk into Las Vegas as the WWE NXT world champion

01:00:05.019 --> 01:00:10.159
or so she thinks and then we get into the Ricky

01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:17.500
Saints Ridge Holland So before we get into that

01:00:17.500 --> 01:00:20.099
The one thing that I've learned that you have

01:00:20.099 --> 01:00:24.039
to do with NXT and their promos is Not just to

01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:26.780
not just look where they want you to look You've

01:00:26.780 --> 01:00:28.739
got to be able to look at what's going on in

01:00:28.739 --> 01:00:34.199
the background at the same time So in the background

01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:38.780
it's not much but I think we're starting to see

01:00:38.780 --> 01:00:45.800
some some cracks in Carmen Petrovich and Ashanti

01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.780
Adonis's relationship as they are seen in the

01:00:49.780 --> 01:00:52.019
background looking to be having some form of

01:00:52.019 --> 01:00:55.539
heated discussion or argument. I can only assume

01:00:55.539 --> 01:00:58.420
that's off the back of Ashanti Adonis trying

01:00:58.420 --> 01:01:04.900
to basically get Carmen to win the wrong way

01:01:04.900 --> 01:01:12.360
or at least go against her... Good -natured good

01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:15.820
-natured morals, I suppose No, which is an interesting

01:01:15.820 --> 01:01:19.079
one, but have we seen a Shantae Adonis in a ring

01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:28.739
yet? Not since we've done Not we've been doing

01:01:28.739 --> 01:01:32.280
finishes and factions. No Maybe they're gonna

01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:35.380
split those two lovebirds up and send a Shantae

01:01:35.380 --> 01:01:40.159
Adonis out on the singles path No pun intended

01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:44.159
there. Shantae Adonis is going to be on a singles

01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:48.940
run soon. Let's be fair, we don't actually know

01:01:48.940 --> 01:01:50.980
if he's capable of having a singles match. We

01:01:50.980 --> 01:01:53.260
haven't seen him have any sort of interaction

01:01:53.260 --> 01:01:55.940
apart from just being a manager, I suppose. Not

01:01:55.940 --> 01:01:57.820
even that, he's just kind of a competitor. He's

01:01:57.820 --> 01:01:59.960
just been a far light at this point, hasn't he?

01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:04.719
He's a... But, yeah, as... He's leaving for Spino

01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:08.489
and being quiet in the background. Yeah. Hoping

01:02:08.489 --> 01:02:12.150
not to be noticed. Yeah, but as Rich mentioned

01:02:12.150 --> 01:02:17.349
earlier on, we go from that little promo into

01:02:17.349 --> 01:02:21.010
match five, which is the Ricky Saints versus

01:02:21.010 --> 01:02:27.469
Ridge Holland singles match. And I'm going to

01:02:27.469 --> 01:02:30.909
pretty quickly as well. Well, I'm going to make

01:02:30.909 --> 01:02:35.170
myself possibly really unpopular within WWE circles

01:02:35.170 --> 01:02:39.159
here, especially within NXT and possibly the

01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:43.320
larger wrestling community in general. Whatever

01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:46.480
they're fucking paying Ricky Saints is too much.

01:02:46.780 --> 01:02:50.219
Oh, yeah, no, of course. The hill that I will

01:02:50.219 --> 01:02:56.760
die on, as far as NXT is concerned, is that it's

01:02:56.760 --> 01:03:04.000
either incredibly bad creative, Ricky Saints

01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.760
the fact that he's had now two matches which

01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:09.000
honestly I could have slept through and not felt

01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:15.820
like I missed anything Or he is a little bit

01:03:15.820 --> 01:03:22.340
like You mentioned his name earlier on Can't

01:03:22.340 --> 01:03:31.800
think of him Enzo Amore Yeah, I basically Ricky

01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:35.489
Saints is great on a microphone cut some good

01:03:35.489 --> 01:03:39.909
promos couldn't wrestle his cock out of his boxer

01:03:39.909 --> 01:03:45.690
shorts just like Enzo Amore like yeah the last

01:03:45.690 --> 01:03:49.949
two matches i've been really really unimpressed

01:03:49.949 --> 01:03:52.989
with what we've been getting and yeah i will

01:03:52.989 --> 01:03:56.150
probably stand on that hill next to you and uh

01:03:56.150 --> 01:03:59.510
and yeah Ricky Saints is if they're paying him

01:03:59.510 --> 01:04:03.780
it's too much because he does not He's not shown

01:04:03.780 --> 01:04:07.960
that he deserves it so far All he's done is whinge

01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:10.920
about everyone being really aggressive and loose

01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:16.820
Yeah, I'm just I'm I'm very much not on the Ricky

01:04:16.820 --> 01:04:20.000
Saints bandwagon and I'm not gonna lie. I was

01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:24.179
sort of looking forward to this match With Ridge

01:04:24.179 --> 01:04:26.820
Holland knowing that Ridge Holland can have a

01:04:26.820 --> 01:04:31.199
good match in the hope that I would see something

01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:33.539
that would change my mind about Ricky Saints.

01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:35.699
You know why Ridge Holland always has a pretty

01:04:35.699 --> 01:04:38.760
solid match, don't you? Why is that? Because

01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:40.579
he's an English wrestler and we're always pretty

01:04:40.579 --> 01:04:47.079
solid. This is true. Very, very true. Yeah, but

01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:49.880
Ricky Saints didn't do me anything with this

01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:52.820
one. There was a few opportunities where he had

01:04:52.820 --> 01:04:56.869
a... there was one opportunity that i made a

01:04:56.869 --> 01:04:59.469
note of where ridge holland shows him up massively

01:04:59.469 --> 01:05:02.150
so ricky saints drop kicks ridge holland in the

01:05:02.150 --> 01:05:06.849
chin right really nice missile drop kick ridge

01:05:06.849 --> 01:05:09.809
holland is faking like looking around on the

01:05:09.809 --> 01:05:13.869
floor for his tooth and then gets an absolute

01:05:13.869 --> 01:05:17.110
hook in on ricky saints and i'm like yes get

01:05:17.110 --> 01:05:23.389
him it's him again but yeah no Sort of hoping

01:05:23.389 --> 01:05:26.190
Ridge Holland was hoping Ridge Holland was just

01:05:26.190 --> 01:05:28.610
gonna make it a really short match and just squash

01:05:28.610 --> 01:05:36.309
the hell out of him. It wasn't a huge match anyway

01:05:36.309 --> 01:05:40.170
apart from the two spot, you know, the fact that

01:05:40.170 --> 01:05:42.809
they got into it pretty quickly and that drop

01:05:42.809 --> 01:05:46.150
kick. The only other two notes I've got is that

01:05:46.150 --> 01:05:51.170
Ridge Holland slams Ricky Saints Like power slams

01:05:51.170 --> 01:05:57.949
in twice For a two count and then tries Ricky

01:05:57.949 --> 01:06:00.510
Saints tries to roll up Ridge Holland for a two

01:06:00.510 --> 01:06:07.929
count which doesn't really work and then There

01:06:07.929 --> 01:06:17.230
was a Yeah There wasn't a lot in this match and

01:06:17.230 --> 01:06:22.510
I don't know why They've done what they've done,

01:06:22.510 --> 01:06:29.889
but it's just not for me. No, I mean, Ricky Saints

01:06:29.889 --> 01:06:35.030
does walk out of this with a win after... I've

01:06:35.030 --> 01:06:37.090
got it down as a gut wrench powerbomb, but I

01:06:37.090 --> 01:06:43.530
did also put down Roe Shambo, as I know that

01:06:43.530 --> 01:06:48.429
commentary happened to refer to it in that way

01:06:48.429 --> 01:06:55.119
as well. But yeah, I just... I feel like I need

01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:59.820
to potentially go back and watch some of Ricky

01:06:59.820 --> 01:07:06.460
Saint's pre -WWE matches to try and find out

01:07:06.460 --> 01:07:12.260
if he is just a bad in -ring superstar that is

01:07:12.260 --> 01:07:16.780
overhyped because of his un -mike ability or

01:07:16.780 --> 01:07:21.250
if it is just... bad booking by wwe on this spot

01:07:21.250 --> 01:07:23.710
on this case because we've seen that before as

01:07:23.710 --> 01:07:26.690
well we have i put in my notes here that wiki

01:07:26.690 --> 01:07:28.730
ricky saints won what i thought was a pretty

01:07:28.730 --> 01:07:33.389
shit match and it felt like the same spot was

01:07:33.389 --> 01:07:36.730
just being repeated for five minutes and then

01:07:36.730 --> 01:07:41.369
they had him win it was ridge holland was all

01:07:41.369 --> 01:07:45.309
over him was riding him from the start and then

01:07:45.309 --> 01:07:50.289
just got screwed It should definitely have been

01:07:50.289 --> 01:07:53.349
a Ridge Holland win this week. Ricky Saints didn't

01:07:53.349 --> 01:08:00.710
really deserve the win that you got. I just don't

01:08:00.710 --> 01:08:03.789
feel like it did any. It served a purpose for

01:08:03.789 --> 01:08:07.469
story either. I don't mind an unobvious winner

01:08:07.469 --> 01:08:11.269
if it serves a part in a story, but I'm just

01:08:11.269 --> 01:08:13.809
not seeing the story angle for this either. All

01:08:13.809 --> 01:08:16.229
I'm seeing is a really shit wrestler damaging

01:08:16.229 --> 01:08:25.479
Ridge Holland's push. Yeah, pretty much Anyway,

01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:28.659
we're not going to talk about Ricky Saints any

01:08:28.659 --> 01:08:34.859
longer into a backstage recap of Tony D 'Angelo

01:08:34.859 --> 01:08:41.039
getting his booty bashed by the mask for and

01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:45.840
then we see the mask for leaving the Performance

01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:49.220
Center through a side door into the car park

01:08:49.220 --> 01:08:55.079
where we actually get a promo from them. Yeah.

01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:59.060
So this gave them basically an, we, this was

01:08:59.060 --> 01:09:02.640
them giving, being given an opportunity to basically

01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:05.079
tell us why they've been doing what they've been

01:09:05.079 --> 01:09:09.319
doing. And apart from a lot of like half -hearted

01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:13.260
platitudes about, Oh yeah, we've seen what NXT

01:09:13.260 --> 01:09:15.539
is about. We don't like it. We want to change

01:09:15.539 --> 01:09:21.350
it. We're changing the landscape of NXT. Now,

01:09:21.470 --> 01:09:23.729
the only sort of positive thing that I took out

01:09:23.729 --> 01:09:30.510
of this promo from them was that we saw each

01:09:30.510 --> 01:09:33.489
of their faces, which means absolutely fuck all

01:09:33.489 --> 01:09:38.149
at this point. And we also got a name for the

01:09:38.149 --> 01:09:42.229
group. The name for the group is Dark State.

01:09:43.210 --> 01:09:49.550
It's pretty cool to be fair. Yeah. And it would

01:09:49.550 --> 01:09:53.409
appear that Dark State have been attempting to

01:09:53.409 --> 01:09:58.789
make a statement in NXT and they also revealed

01:09:58.789 --> 01:10:00.890
towards the end of this promo that they are not

01:10:00.890 --> 01:10:04.550
done with that tonight as they re -enter the

01:10:04.550 --> 01:10:09.170
Performance Center to go and cause who knows

01:10:09.170 --> 01:10:18.609
how much havoc. We then go from that promo into

01:10:18.609 --> 01:10:23.010
another backstage promo where we see Kelly Kincaid

01:10:23.010 --> 01:10:26.630
interviewing Ricky Saints talking about his win

01:10:26.630 --> 01:10:31.670
and Ricky Saints talking about the fact that

01:10:31.670 --> 01:10:34.010
it's stand -and -deliver season every result

01:10:34.010 --> 01:10:39.029
matters and we see the culling actually come

01:10:39.029 --> 01:10:43.239
in and crash the interview and All I put after

01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:46.359
this was that it would appear that Sean Spears

01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:49.020
and the Culling feel the same way about Ricky

01:10:49.020 --> 01:10:55.079
Saints that I do. Right. Is that they sort of

01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:57.260
mirrored a lot of the stuff that I've said about

01:10:57.260 --> 01:11:01.279
Ricky Saints and yeah I don't think, like I've

01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:03.460
said, I don't feel like I've said anything that

01:11:03.460 --> 01:11:08.500
is unjustified in any way shape or form. Yeah

01:11:08.500 --> 01:11:17.520
I don't see the hype myself. I'm actually kind

01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:20.960
of glad that we don't have to deal with Ricky

01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:25.699
Saints for the rest of this episode. We can just

01:11:25.699 --> 01:11:34.359
get away with discussing the main event. Yeah,

01:11:34.500 --> 01:11:40.619
so the main event this week was an NXT Underground

01:11:40.619 --> 01:11:44.579
singles match with bit which saw Eddie Thorpe

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versus trick Williams now Underground matches

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are not something that we've seen in or it's

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not something that certainly I've seen in WWE.

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This is my first This was my first experience

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of an egg of an underground singles match and

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the basic premise is that it is a It's a hardcore.

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It's It's like a hardcore lumberjack match. The

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difference is, is that they completely remove

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the ring ropes. The ring remains up, the corner

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posts remain up, but there are no ring ropes.

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So there's no running the ropes. There's no springboard

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maneuvers. It is just... It's a bare ring. And

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no count -outs or pinfalls. The only way to win

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is via... knockout or submission. Which is a

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decent way of winning a match to be fair. It's

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very decisive. You either go to sleep or you

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quit. I mean yeah and in terms of like the history

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of the two people who are in this match this

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is actually Eddie Thorpe's third underground

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match for which he is up to this point undefeated

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so the previous two underground matches he has

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had he won which is whereas trick williams this

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is his first career underground match so he is

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very much popping a cherry tonight well let's

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just hope he doesn't get his cherry popped Well

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in all fairness the match itself was actually

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quite short It wasn't like it didn't get a tremendous

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amount of minutes to it I think I was only about

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10 I think even that's rounding up but yeah Got

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a few more notes for this match admittedly if

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you cut out all the cut out the notes from the

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the history of the match and And the match rules

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it's still a fair fair chunk of bits and pieces

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to go through and My favorite one was I'm not

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gonna lie was Eddie thought putting trick Williams

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through the announce table Yeah, I saw that and

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I saw Eddie Thorpe trying to lock in a triangle

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choke hold on Trick Williams, which Trick Williams

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just powers out of. Good old homage to the one

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man that we know can pull off a very beautiful

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triangle choke hold by the name of Hell's Gates.

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Yes, the Undertaker. And yeah, I mean, this match...

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actually ends up as I said it's only a very short

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one and I think it was just the right move at

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the right time that caught it as trick Williams

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catches Eddie Thorpe with a trick shot and wins

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via TKO yeah and Eddie Thorpe was not the fuck

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out oh 100 % he was out like a bitch Yeah, he

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was sleeping with the fishes today. Very much

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so. Now, Trick Williams isn't done here. He uses

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the time left in the show and the time left in

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the ring to call out the one person up until

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this point I hadn't realised we hadn't seen.

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Yeah, it wasn't until he came running out that

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I realized that he'd be yet no matches no promos

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no nothing Yeah, he hadn't even appeared in the

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background of any of them and I think that is

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because he was on TNA this week So they might

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have been trying to keep him fresh for whatever

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match that he had at TNA I can't remember what

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it was, but I'm sure he was there He was quite

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possibly or he was booked to be there And Yeah,

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basically we all know trick Williams's main goal

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at the moment is to get the NXT men's title back

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Which is currently sat quite comfortably around

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the waist of Oba Femi Wasn't a punk ass bitch

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Huh, you cause him a punk ass. It's like yeah

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Excuse it he goes Trick Williams takes the mic

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and he says he needs to learn how to not scrub

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all this bit when I and calls it over Calls over

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Femi out and calls him a punk ass and tells him

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to bring his title with him Which in all fairness

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over Femi does exactly as he's told and they

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end up they end up in the middle of the I don't

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know if you can still call it a ring technically.

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The raised square on the floor. Yeah, they are

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squaring off against one another when all of

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a sudden we just lose the lights. Yeah, and we

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get a visual of one of the members of the dark

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state in the crowd with the crowd. Obviously

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we saw them. at the end of their little segment

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earlier saying that they weren't quite finished

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and all ran back into the building so this says

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to me that they've come to have a little conversation

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with trick williams but this is the point is

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that they don't move any so all four of them

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are there although on screen you only ever see

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two of them i have to assume the other two are

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Behind the camera that they're choosing to use

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to broadcast. Yeah and Yeah, they just stand

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in the crowd. They make very much make their

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presence known and It's at this point that Jevon

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Evans comes into the ring now, we know he was

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talking earlier on about the fact that He was

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jumped a week or two ago by this very same foursome,

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by the Dark State, and basically comes into plead

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with both Oberfemi and Tripp Williams, but Tripp

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Williams basically palms off Evans, and by palms

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off I mean treats... treats Jevon Evans like...

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treats Jevon Evans like... Bianca Belair treats

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EO Sky hand to the face. Palms him off well and

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truly. This basically sparks a fight between

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Femi, Williams and Evans. This turns into a clusterfuck

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at the end. Yeah, as the evolved lumberjacks

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that have been stationed around the ring up to

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this point, they basically all dive into the

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ring to try and split up the three that are there.

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Although the one thing that I remember sending

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you a voice note about, and it's made me giggle

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no end throughout the last few nights, is that...

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I've seen a few memes making the rounds and my

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favorite one has to be that Javon Evans, Trick

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Williams and Ober Femi are different stages of

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a Pokemon evolution Yep, with Javon Evans being

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your basic stage your first stage Pokemon the

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Trick Williams being the next level up and then

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Ober Femi being the final form which yeah I find

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it un -totally hilarious. No, according to the

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final boss himself, Ava is the final boss of

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NXT. Yeah, that was very true. But yeah, this

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was a great ending to it, I will say. Yeah, so

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one of the last few bits that we see of NXT this

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week was... Evans coming out of nowhere and hitting

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a cutter on fat on over family wouldn't look

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like he needs the ropes to hit that cutter But

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there were no ropes. He got some hella height

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if he came off the floor Well, you've got to

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remember Japan Evans is bouncy He certainly is

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and We are left with an image of Oba Femi laid

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out on the floor after this cutter and Javon

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Evans and Trick Williams squaring off in the

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ring. Oh yeah, it was a hell of an ending. The

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way they left this was just like, I cannot fucking

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wait until next week's NXT. Yeah, for what was

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a very... I'm going to call it underwhelming

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card. Uh, sort of the vast majority of the program

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could have been improved. Um, it's, that was

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a really well put together ending in my view.

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Yeah. The main event this week saved NXT. Very

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much so. Whereas normally we see the main event

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enhancing NXT. Yeah. this week like we say it

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was a bit of a poor quality programming but it

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is the week after a PLE so we can't expect everything

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from a multi -billion dollar company no definitely

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not um but yeah i mean that takes me very much

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to the end of uh at the end of my note my notes

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my notes were done with the with the cutter to

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be fair But um But I think as always we'll finish

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this episode by thanking you all for listening

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