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Hello everyone and welcome to a new episode of

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Finishes and Factions. This week, well it's Finishes

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and Factions does Smackdown, sorry, and this

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week we are on the first leg of the European

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tour in Barcelona, Spain. So this week you've

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got myself, Rich as normal, and again as normal

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you have my co -host Adam. Adam, how you doing

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buddy? I'm all good, mate. I'm all good. And

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Friday Night Smackdown this week came to us from

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the Olympic arena. Now, different points during

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this, we're sort of told that it's been something

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like six years since WWE has been, I think it

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was supposed to be broadcast from Spain. I'm

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pretty sure Spain is always a... Stop on the

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European tour. They do sort of twice a year And

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this is actually Smackdown's first time being

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broadcast from Spain and so Yeah, so much to

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go through Well, yeah exactly and we've got the

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roster to look at as well Matches and stuff without

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the Spanish people in the crowd going absolutely

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crazy for all these superstars making their way

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to the ring 100 % I mean the Spanish crowd in

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general were absolutely phenomenal I can't on

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I can't imagine anybody sat in the back thinking

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do you know what this I think this show was actually

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pretty shit Then I think they need a slap in

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the face from mr. Socko Because quite frankly

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anyone who sat there meant the crowd in this

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arena or shit crazy or stupid 100 % 100 % with

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this first match that we had The promos building

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up to it. I mean what strong start to a normal

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smackdown, but on a European tour Yeah, I mean

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the first place that well speaking of yeah the

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first person that we're Sort of introduced to

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in his in -ring promo and we are treated to the

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brand new United States champion Mr. L a night.

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Yeah, I Knew one of us was gonna do it 100 %

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Yeah, and LA Knight basically comes out to talk

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to us all about how it's so much better now that

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he is... Now he's the US champion, which honestly

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I can't disagree with. I've been saying for a

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good couple of weeks that the previous champion

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Nakamura was... Nakadmora? We've been saying

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that that championship needed to change hands.

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Obviously with Shin to get his personal issues...

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the fact that he's had that title for six months

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and he's defended it twice. He defended it twice

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and he lost it in the second defense. So, you

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know, I'm sure if we'd have been doing episodes

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of Finishers and Factions when Roman was holding

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the main title with the bloodline and he was

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appearing every sort of six weeks, we did have

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these conversations, you know, between ourselves

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about how annoying it was not having a champion

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there. defending every so often, or even just

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showing up, making an appearance. You know, Shinsuke

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was a very poor champion and a lot of people

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on social media have put it down as the second

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worst United States run behind Dina Ambrose's.

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So, yeah, there we go. It's a bit of an interesting

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one on that one. Yeah, definitely. Definitely

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have a better run with it though. LA Knight will

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come out and he's already talking about wanting

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to be that fighting champion essentially. The

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first to answer the call is our good friend Big

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Jim. Jimmy Uso comes out to challenge for the

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title. There's a few words exchanged. Nothing

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more than, yeah I'm free. fucking let's get into

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it sort of thing. So I didn't get to see this

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live because I was a little bit late onto the

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show but is this I've seen a clip online is this

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the bit where he refers to the United States

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title as the tag title in the middle of the ring

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before they unedited the they edited the show

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and changed it. Yeah so Jimmy Uso goofed a little

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bit and referred to referred to the US as the

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US tag titles um and he's gone a little bit viral

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for it and uh i'm still seeing i've seen clips

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today to be fair yeah um and fair play to wwe

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though the skills behind their editing department

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because when you if you were to give me that

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clip and tell me to try and edit it to the way

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they've done it it would take me days and like

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several different programs just to make sure

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i've got it as best as I could get it and I don't

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think I could have done as well as they did.

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You would not even have known that Blunder was

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there if you didn't watch it live and you watched

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it recorded. It was so well done. No, this is

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it. All right, that's my dirty bit out of the

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way with their production. Well, after Jimmy

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Uso's goof, we have also sort of... Solo Sokoa

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come out with Jacob Fatu and Tama Tonga in tow

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and In fairness, even I thought Solo Sakoa was

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coming out saying, yeah, I want a crack at US

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title, but he's still trying to crawl so far

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up the Samoan Werewolf's backside that it's difficult

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to tell where one ends and the other begins.

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Because he comes out and advocates for Jacob

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Fatu having a crack at LA Night as well. I must

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admit, I think we know where Solo Sakoa has been

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learning how to do all this tongue punching of

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the fartbogs. I think Solo and Mike Mizano have

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been talking to each other backstage, you know.

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I think him and The Miz have been getting to

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know each other a little bit too well because

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The Miz is a very well known, good quality ass

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kisser. I mean, in some cases it's not a bad

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quality to have. It's just not a quality we want

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in any kind of champion, let alone the United

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States champion. Yeah, well. yeah definitely

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not but we definitely won't get any tongue punching

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in the fart box from LA Knight no this is it

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and yeah it's a case that Jimmy and LA Knight

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are basically getting to a bit of a verbal sparring

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match between them pair and I'd love to say all

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three of these previous sort of bloodline 2 .0

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members solo Fatou and Tonga But again, we're

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not really seeing Tonga say an awful lot I mean

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all you tend to get from Tama Tonga is yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah That

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is pretty much what his ability is at the moment

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when it comes to speaking with a microphone in

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his hand I don't think it's a lack of ability

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Just think no it may not be a lack of ability,

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but that's all the ability that we've been shown

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Probably if you went to YouTube and looked at

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some of this stuff from outside of WWE you could

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probably find some incredible promos that he's

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got I just Haven't got the time to go and sit

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and watch those videos myself No, this is it

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I'm in very much the same boat myself, so we're

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managed to occasionally find a couple of decent

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promos on I'm scrolling through a tick tock or

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Facebook reels that I always seem to end up seeing

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wrestling stuff from 20 years ago. Which is yeah.

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Yeah. But after some verbal sparring between

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in a very much sort of a handicap three on two

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situation, we have Braunstrom the biggest. The

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Braun Strowman Express come charging down the

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ramp trying to basically level the playing field

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after Ponga, Fatu and Sokoa jumped the other

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two and then Nick Aldous comes out and books

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it as a six -man tag to begin right now and I've

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accused Nick Aldous before of sort of coming

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out in this way Booking this type of a match

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is a very Teddy Long sort of thing to do and

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We loved a tag match In these podcast episodes,

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but both of us at the age we are He was a big

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part of our wrestling Experience when we first

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got into it And you knew as soon as you saw Teddy

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Long come out player that you were either going

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to see a tag match or someone was going one on

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one with the dead man himself. And at what point

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do you need anything better than a solos match

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with The Undertaker or a half decent tag match?

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So yeah, bring back Teddy Long. Yeah, this is

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it. I mean, I think Teddy Long is still making

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appearances in the In the 2k 25 video game as

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it goes I'm pretty sure he is still a playable

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manager In 2k 25 yeah But yeah, this is where

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rich can chime in a little bit more because It

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is a case that he did actually see the six -man

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tag so yeah rich what was your impressions of

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the six man tag match from what i saw of the

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six man tag match so yeah i missed i missed the

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start of it due to being late late to the tv

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and i have not had the time over the weekend

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to catch up due to work commitments um a lot

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of my notes for this match were very sort of

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i didn't get a lot of notes for this match but

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what i did get was was reasonable i suppose um

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so I've got my notes basically started at the

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ending of this match but there was a lot of different

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bits within the match that I enjoyed watching

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and I couldn't necessarily tell you about any

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of the spots that from the match as a con Can't

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fully remember all of them but so me a majority

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of the action from this was sort of afterwards

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Yeah, so a vast majority of them meet to this

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to this match what did happen sort of after after

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it all went down, but We sort of join the match

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in progress as we I think anybody anybody that's

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watched WWE longer than a week Will know that

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if a match is booked immediately by the time

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we come back from any sort of advert break or

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anything like that it is a case that we're joining

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the match in progress sort of thing. And one

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of the things that I noted down, not really a

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spot as such, but just something that I wanted

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to point out was that you could definitely tell

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that They were billing Solo Sokoa, Jacob Fatu,

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Tamatonga on one side as obviously the established

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tag team. These three are used to working together

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as a team whereas on the other side you've got

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LA Knight, Jimmy Uso and Braun Strowman. Very

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sort of rag tag group of heroes in the story.

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There are Not used to working together and the

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re I think the way they did that was sort of

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regular tags between the Samoans very sort of

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isolating off one person in the ring those classic

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tag team tactics and but Yeah, that all that

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all goes a bit to shit once LA Knight manages

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to get a hot tag to Stroman, who then just proceeds

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to mow down everybody a little bit like a German

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rail gun at D -Day. Yeah, unfortunately... How

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do I put this without being a dickhead about

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it? We've seen a lot of Jacob Fatta and Braun

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Stroman the last few weeks with different...

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Between matches and beatdowns and stuff. I'm

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getting a little bit fed up with this whole Sort

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of storyline at the moment. I've enjoyed watching

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Jimmy use so as a solo. I've enjoyed watching

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any night on his solo runs Even enjoyed watching

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Jacob in his solo Stuff, but this tag match didn't

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really have it in for me. The actual match itself

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was quite boring Didn't really think too much

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of it Like I said, for me, this match started

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as the bell rang and the afters were had and

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that was where it started getting a lot more

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intriguing. Yeah, so the match itself was won

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by Strowman hitting a running power slam on Tamatonga.

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Yeah, the literal cannon fodder of the other

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team, basically. We then get Solo Sokoa sneak

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attack. Yeah, so I wrote down that Braun Strowman

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wins with the running slam on Tamatanga for the

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three count. As he lifts his arms to celebrate,

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Solo hits him with a Samoan spike. And then I've

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got the LA Knight chases Solo Sokoa out of the

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arena through the crowd. Fatou and Strohman decide

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they're gonna have a little bit of a thing in

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the ring and end up with having a sort of brawling

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between them from where Fatou hits two moonsaults

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in a row while Strohman's on the floor and as

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he goes to pull a third one, Strohman got out

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of the way of it. No, he pulled the third one,

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sorry, after repositioning Stroman in the middle

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of the ring. But Fatu's not quite finished here.

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So you see Tamatonga and Fatu kind of going up

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the ramp. They're kind of being pushed away.

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Well, Tamatonga is basically telling Fatu, come

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with me, come on. You've done what you've got

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to do. It's time to go. Walks up the ramp. Fatu

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kind of looks at him and kind of follows for

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a few paces and then just decides. fuck it runs

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back down to the ring runs around the outside

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of the ring and cannonball i put it as a cannonball

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basically it was like a he put brawn strayman

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through timekeeping barrier and uh pretty much

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left him lying there as he got up and disappeared

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off the only issue i have with this scenario

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is A lot of these guys took a reasonable beating

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in the ring. Fatou gave Strowman more of a beating

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on the outside but Fatou's no selling again is

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really starting to piss me off. Like there are

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some moves that I get they're trying to build

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him as a powerhouse and he's meant to be one

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of those wrestlers that for someone to take him

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down it's got to be a hell of a match right and

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you're gonna have to have a hell of an effort

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doing so. but Generally, yeah fat who's something

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like no selling some stuff that he really should

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be selling and it's really not helping him or

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the people he's wrestling against Yeah, you get

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to a point with no selling where it starts damaging

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the person you're working with Building Braun

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Strowman is like the big bastard. He is you know,

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this guy is a huge person and if Jacob Fatu's

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just no -selling some of these moves. It really

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doesn't make Braun look as big and powerful as

00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.599
WWE are trying to make him. They're making hard

00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:14.759
work for themselves. Work smarter, not harder.

00:18:14.900 --> 00:18:16.960
And they're not doing that with Jacob Fatu spending

00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:19.180
so much time in the ring with Strowman no -selling

00:18:19.180 --> 00:18:22.400
him. And LA Knight as well. He's got a new title

00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.420
around his waist and Fatu's not helping him.

00:18:26.490 --> 00:18:28.609
because he's now selling things like the BFT

00:18:28.609 --> 00:18:31.609
and stuff like that. You can't do that at this

00:18:31.609 --> 00:18:39.029
level. No, it is a case that there are, I have

00:18:39.029 --> 00:18:45.430
seen videos where Fatu is very much very good

00:18:45.430 --> 00:18:48.569
at being able to take care of his opponents in

00:18:48.569 --> 00:18:51.859
the ring. where he where obviously the moves

00:18:51.859 --> 00:18:54.480
matter you've seen the same video i have that

00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:56.980
it's the one of the of the moonsault and how

00:18:56.980 --> 00:19:00.319
he lands it just so his knees are nowhere near

00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:03.019
his opponent but he lands on his arms on them

00:19:03.019 --> 00:19:05.279
so they don't take the brunt of the move he does

00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:09.799
yeah yeah no that was so some of these videos

00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:11.980
floating around on how these wrestlers do these

00:19:11.980 --> 00:19:14.700
moves if you get an opportunity to watch them

00:19:14.700 --> 00:19:18.859
do right purely for the fact like yes There's

00:19:18.859 --> 00:19:24.299
another interview going around with JD Dunner

00:19:24.299 --> 00:19:26.720
from Judgment Day with Chris Van Vliet talking

00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.339
about the RKO who took off the cage from Randy

00:19:29.339 --> 00:19:33.140
Orton last year. And they're saying about pulling

00:19:33.140 --> 00:19:35.880
crash mats out and stuff. The back, you know,

00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:37.880
behind the scenes of wrestling has been opened

00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.160
up by, you know, so many other creators that

00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:43.200
if you get an opportunity to watch how they do

00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:46.690
things, do it. It's fantastically... entertaining

00:19:46.690 --> 00:19:51.609
and so educational at the same time yeah it gives

00:19:51.609 --> 00:19:54.190
you an eye it's it's that peek behind the curtain

00:19:54.190 --> 00:19:59.809
isn't it it's that it's like um in the uk back

00:19:59.809 --> 00:20:03.470
in the 90s there used to be a it's not wrestling

00:20:03.470 --> 00:20:06.750
related there used to be a a program on channel

00:20:06.750 --> 00:20:11.829
five that used to uh debunk different magic like

00:20:11.829 --> 00:20:13.970
magic tricks and illusions and things like that

00:20:13.970 --> 00:20:20.829
teller and fortune one So No, but similar So

00:20:20.829 --> 00:20:22.769
Penn and Teller have always been really good

00:20:22.769 --> 00:20:26.890
at just giving you enough To not ruin the trick

00:20:26.890 --> 00:20:29.750
but to give you an idea as to how it's done Yeah,

00:20:29.769 --> 00:20:32.609
this one was done by a completely masked magician

00:20:32.609 --> 00:20:37.009
that used to pull the trick off You used to watch

00:20:37.009 --> 00:20:40.509
it on screen and then they'd take you back and

00:20:40.509 --> 00:20:42.910
Show you a different angle so that they could

00:20:42.910 --> 00:20:45.349
so that you could see how it was done and things

00:20:45.349 --> 00:20:48.450
like that I used to love watching this show and

00:20:48.450 --> 00:20:50.730
some of the interviews as Richard said that you

00:20:50.730 --> 00:20:52.769
see floating around on the internet do something

00:20:52.769 --> 00:20:55.609
very similar is they give you a different angle

00:20:55.609 --> 00:20:58.509
to be able to see how it is that they're doing

00:20:58.509 --> 00:21:08.089
it like You know any of the interviews he does

00:21:08.089 --> 00:21:11.029
with these superstars they are a hundred percent

00:21:11.029 --> 00:21:14.210
legit There is no like there's no bullshit in

00:21:14.210 --> 00:21:17.710
a Chris Van Vleet interview straight up They're

00:21:17.710 --> 00:21:20.269
brilliant. They are the best there are for wrestling

00:21:20.269 --> 00:21:25.329
interviews out there Yeah, very much so it's

00:21:25.329 --> 00:21:28.009
it's certainly one of the ones that I personally

00:21:28.009 --> 00:21:31.000
quite enjoy watching when it comes to Uh, when

00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:33.480
it comes to sort of wrestling interview content

00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:36.579
is that he does this, he does what he does very,

00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:44.140
very well. So, um, yeah. So we go from that six

00:21:44.140 --> 00:21:49.680
man tag into the hall of fame. So this one was

00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:54.519
specifically for triple H. And obviously I've

00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:57.240
seen, I imagine you've probably seen the same

00:21:57.240 --> 00:21:59.019
sort of interview. I've seen an interview, I

00:21:59.019 --> 00:22:01.619
can't remember who conducted the interview, but

00:22:01.619 --> 00:22:05.279
it was an interview with Mark Calloway, otherwise

00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:08.880
known as The Undertaker, about Triple H's induction.

00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:11.839
And as much as he comes across as a bit of a

00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:14.960
self -centred asshole on screen, he's not actually,

00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.140
from what we're told, he's not actually anywhere

00:22:18.140 --> 00:22:21.509
close to being that bad, is that... It was only

00:22:21.509 --> 00:22:23.569
ever going to be somebody else that had to put

00:22:23.569 --> 00:22:26.349
him in. He was never going to put himself in.

00:22:27.630 --> 00:22:30.029
That's the interview that I've seen. I'm assuming

00:22:30.029 --> 00:22:32.849
you may well have seen the same one. Possibly

00:22:32.849 --> 00:22:36.349
seen it. I watch a lot of wrestling content.

00:22:37.230 --> 00:22:39.509
More than likely. I think me and Adam send each

00:22:39.509 --> 00:22:42.269
other maybe 20, 30 clips a day just of different

00:22:42.269 --> 00:22:45.549
bits that we've seen from either the weekly programs

00:22:45.549 --> 00:22:50.079
that we've watched or old school clips of and

00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:52.619
so more radio big cast and all sorts of other

00:22:52.619 --> 00:22:57.640
stuff so yeah a lot of wrestling has been viewed

00:22:57.640 --> 00:23:00.880
i've probably seen it probably not one thing

00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:06.460
i wish i hadn't seen is this next match i'm not

00:23:06.460 --> 00:23:13.980
this for me was the worst match of the evening

00:23:13.980 --> 00:23:19.680
purely for the fact that It's got Charlotte Flair

00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:34.240
in it So We done so We done the VT's and everything

00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:38.579
around around Bianca Belair and All of all of

00:23:38.579 --> 00:23:40.180
the drama that goes with that because that's

00:23:40.180 --> 00:23:45.759
what I've got next Yeah, no, there's some interesting

00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.599
stuff going Bianca Belair to be fair Those VT's

00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:50.980
opened up the door on a little bit more of the

00:23:50.980 --> 00:23:53.279
Naomi Jade Cargill situation, which was always

00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:57.359
nice. Yeah, so we had a VT promo recapping everything

00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.559
that had happened. We then went to an empty...

00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.440
I called it an empty arena promo, although a

00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:04.700
lot of people have said that Jade Cargill's gone

00:24:04.700 --> 00:24:07.460
back to AEW for a little bit of a jab at the

00:24:07.460 --> 00:24:09.420
fact that they've had some quite empty shows

00:24:09.420 --> 00:24:12.940
recently. Yeah, this was the interview kind of

00:24:12.940 --> 00:24:16.750
finding out from Jade. what happened exactly

00:24:16.750 --> 00:24:19.089
because we found out Naomi Giver an ass kick

00:24:19.089 --> 00:24:21.869
in but we didn't know all we were shown was that

00:24:21.869 --> 00:24:23.970
Jade Cargill was left lying on the hood of a

00:24:23.970 --> 00:24:26.089
car with a smashed windscreen surrounding her

00:24:26.089 --> 00:24:30.640
ass Yeah. And in this interview, she basically

00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.799
says physically she's okay. She's, she's ready

00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:36.180
to return back to in -ring action, which is always,

00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:39.799
always a good thing. I remember seeing Jade Cargill

00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:42.940
in the early days of AEW and very impressive

00:24:42.940 --> 00:24:46.680
wrestler. I haven't seen her wrestle in WWE yet

00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:50.599
that I can remember. Her injury was just before

00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:54.440
we started finishes and functions. So we've definitely

00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:57.339
not really covered much of Jade Cargill in -ring.

00:25:02.690 --> 00:25:09.289
Well, one of the things she talks about in this

00:25:09.289 --> 00:25:14.109
interview is a feeling towards Naomi and sort

00:25:14.109 --> 00:25:17.150
of the betrayal because the impression that I've

00:25:17.150 --> 00:25:20.410
got after interviews with both Bianca and now

00:25:20.410 --> 00:25:23.289
Jade is that the three of them were friends.

00:25:23.450 --> 00:25:26.569
Yes. Like they were really quite tight together.

00:25:28.850 --> 00:25:33.789
And yeah apparently this resentment that Naomi's

00:25:33.789 --> 00:25:39.170
bore towards Jade more so is something that's

00:25:39.170 --> 00:25:41.089
come completely out of the blue to the other

00:25:41.089 --> 00:25:43.289
two. Like neither of them seem to have seen it

00:25:43.289 --> 00:25:47.309
coming. I don't think, I mean as a viewer we

00:25:47.309 --> 00:25:50.990
didn't really see it coming. You called the fact

00:25:50.990 --> 00:25:54.069
that Naomi had done it but we couldn't really

00:25:54.069 --> 00:25:58.980
put a finger on why. And it was kind of nice

00:25:58.980 --> 00:26:02.019
to find out a little bit more about why she decided

00:26:02.019 --> 00:26:05.980
that she'd had enough of Jake Cargill. Which,

00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:09.960
I mean, her reasons weren't the best reasons

00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:13.339
in the world, I mean, but there's definitely

00:26:13.339 --> 00:26:18.460
some valid points in there. I mean, the one thing

00:26:18.460 --> 00:26:20.700
that I don't think anybody's really touched on

00:26:20.700 --> 00:26:25.279
yet until this interview went out was more to

00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:32.349
do with Obviously, once the footage, if you like,

00:26:32.569 --> 00:26:37.450
came out of supposedly Raquel Rodriguez and Liv

00:26:37.450 --> 00:26:40.690
Morgan hanging around where Jade had been assaulted

00:26:40.690 --> 00:26:44.250
shortly afterwards, it was a case that they very

00:26:44.250 --> 00:26:49.230
much got the blame. And in fairness, I would

00:26:49.230 --> 00:26:51.390
be willing to say that it was probably Naomi

00:26:51.390 --> 00:26:53.609
that was the anonymous source that that came

00:26:53.609 --> 00:26:59.140
from to try and shift some blame. But they were

00:26:59.140 --> 00:27:03.119
very much they were more so victims in this situation

00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.619
to me than any but then Not as much as Jade Cargill

00:27:07.619 --> 00:27:11.599
herself, but sort of victims by Association is

00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:14.140
that they didn't do anything but very much got

00:27:14.140 --> 00:27:20.019
the blame for it Yeah, no and for a long time

00:27:20.019 --> 00:27:23.500
everyone's been picking on living Raquel for

00:27:23.500 --> 00:27:28.740
it basically kind of treating them like outcasts

00:27:28.740 --> 00:27:32.500
because they were accused of doing what was a

00:27:32.500 --> 00:27:35.339
very brutal attack to Jade so now they've had

00:27:35.339 --> 00:27:38.579
I mean they've had some serious matches with

00:27:38.579 --> 00:27:41.640
Bianca and Naomi in the tag division and obviously

00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.819
they took the titles off them as well it was

00:27:44.819 --> 00:27:48.140
just a big shock that you know it came out to

00:27:48.140 --> 00:27:51.839
be Naomi that did it when everyone was convinced

00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:58.439
it was Liv and Raquel yeah this is it but Yeah,

00:27:58.439 --> 00:28:01.180
during this interview we actually have Liv Morgan

00:28:01.180 --> 00:28:04.960
and Raquel Rodriguez sort of walk into this empty

00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.359
arena, seemingly just arriving at said arena,

00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:13.299
sort of confront Cargill about them having a

00:28:13.299 --> 00:28:15.960
lot of the blame. And it basically ends up in

00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:21.519
a bit of a bitch match between Liv and Jade,

00:28:21.700 --> 00:28:24.680
to which we've actually had a match booked for

00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:30.759
next week. In Bologna, Italy is next week's Smackdown?

00:28:31.980 --> 00:28:35.259
Yeah, so we've got Liv and Jade in a singles

00:28:35.259 --> 00:28:40.839
match in Bologna next week. That's definitely

00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.259
going to be a good match. That's going to be

00:28:44.259 --> 00:28:46.099
an incredible match, to be fair. Because you

00:28:46.099 --> 00:28:48.799
know Liv Morgan will not go down without a fight

00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.900
in Jade Cargill's. She got some fight in her.

00:28:51.900 --> 00:28:55.900
She's had four months on the sidelines. she's

00:28:55.900 --> 00:28:58.500
looking at kick some ass and kick it good and

00:28:58.500 --> 00:29:04.420
proper yeah this is when we now move on to the

00:29:04.420 --> 00:29:08.779
b -fab charlotte flair stuff yeah yeah for some

00:29:08.779 --> 00:29:11.859
reason normally i'm all over the vts this week

00:29:11.859 --> 00:29:15.059
i seem to have screwed the pooch a little bit

00:29:15.059 --> 00:29:19.900
but yeah so this In fairness, we did as close

00:29:19.900 --> 00:29:22.720
to live watch -alongs of this episode as we could

00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:27.019
possibly do. So it's fair to say that we were

00:29:27.019 --> 00:29:29.319
trying to note -take at the same time as trying

00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.000
to watch the episode, which is how we normally

00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:34.579
note -take anyway, but because we do it off the

00:29:34.579 --> 00:29:37.460
edit that comes out afterwards, it can sometimes

00:29:37.460 --> 00:29:39.920
be a lot easier so that we don't end up falling

00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:44.180
behind. End of the day, SmackDown is now a three

00:29:44.180 --> 00:29:47.299
-hour show. It's the longest show out of the

00:29:47.299 --> 00:29:57.200
three episodics of the week. Generally. Smackdown

00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.079
feels the longest as well. I know it is the longest,

00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:01.880
but there are some weeks with Smackdown. I get

00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.680
to the end and I'm like, I can't do anymore.

00:30:05.660 --> 00:30:10.240
It's completely killed me off. This B -Fab Charlotte

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.220
Flair match was enough to kill anyone off, I

00:30:12.220 --> 00:30:18.700
think. There was a few half decent moves to start

00:30:18.700 --> 00:30:29.640
off with But again with this one The match wasn't

00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:35.480
the main talking point So I've got here at some

00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:38.259
point that BFab managed to get a two count off

00:30:38.259 --> 00:30:45.190
a massive kick onto Charlotte Flair And then

00:30:45.190 --> 00:30:48.990
Charlotte Flair hits a super kick and a natural

00:30:48.990 --> 00:30:54.490
selection into a figure eight lock But that was

00:30:54.490 --> 00:30:57.950
That was more the end of the match There was

00:30:57.950 --> 00:31:01.349
there wasn't a huge amount I found between the

00:31:01.349 --> 00:31:04.829
start and the end of the match that was too enticing

00:31:04.829 --> 00:31:06.849
Like I said, I'm not sure if it's because Charlotte

00:31:06.849 --> 00:31:09.470
was in the match and I just switched off Which

00:31:09.470 --> 00:31:12.450
is a shame because BFab put up a fairly good

00:31:13.850 --> 00:31:17.109
opportunity for what was going on. Yeah. I mean,

00:31:17.329 --> 00:31:20.009
in the interest of fairness, I'm not a huge Charlotte

00:31:20.009 --> 00:31:24.569
Flyer fan either, but we can't really sort of

00:31:24.569 --> 00:31:27.569
take away from what it is that she has sort of

00:31:27.569 --> 00:31:31.109
accomplished, nepo baby or not. I mean, the woman's

00:31:31.109 --> 00:31:37.329
held six WWE Women's Champions, seven World...

00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:42.000
Seven Women's World Champions, two NXT Championships,

00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:46.019
a Women's Tag Team Championship, and she's been

00:31:46.019 --> 00:31:49.539
the winner of two different Women's Royal Rumble

00:31:49.539 --> 00:31:56.259
matches as well. Her career has been full of

00:31:56.259 --> 00:32:01.220
accolades. The issue I have with Charlotte Flair,

00:32:01.579 --> 00:32:03.460
as we say every week, is the fact that she just

00:32:03.460 --> 00:32:05.359
gets it given to her, where everyone else is

00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.460
working that... Absolute socks off and their

00:32:07.460 --> 00:32:10.799
goal is to main event WrestleMania You know and

00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.200
everyone else in the women's division is doing

00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.380
what they can and doing it the right way Charlotte

00:32:15.380 --> 00:32:17.559
Flair comes in and goes yeah I'm not coming back

00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:21.259
unless I get this this and this And it just gets

00:32:21.259 --> 00:32:24.359
given to her which I think is piss poor considering

00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:26.940
the women's division is probably stronger without

00:32:26.940 --> 00:32:32.099
her in it Than it is with her in it I don't think

00:32:32.099 --> 00:32:34.759
she brings anything to that. I think at one point

00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.460
she very much brought something to the table

00:32:37.460 --> 00:32:42.119
for it. Now, I really don't think she's not bringing

00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.759
anything to the table now. She's spent so long

00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:47.920
bringing it to the table now she's decided she's

00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.559
going to start taking from it. Yeah, it just

00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.359
doesn't... Yeah, we don't get anything from her

00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.779
apart from a bunch of self -centered promos.

00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:04.339
It's the same old heel Charlotte Flair that we've

00:33:04.339 --> 00:33:09.000
been getting for the last 15 years. Yeah, although

00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.400
something new that she did do during a match

00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:13.960
is that she did sort of take a leaf out of Stephanie

00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:19.140
Vacure's book. But ends up going a step further

00:33:19.140 --> 00:33:22.059
and turning it into some kind of modified Three

00:33:22.059 --> 00:33:28.329
Amigos. suplex chain which yeah it was it was

00:33:28.329 --> 00:33:31.869
I remember sitting there like how the fuck am

00:33:31.869 --> 00:33:34.089
I meant to write this up in notes for me to be

00:33:34.089 --> 00:33:35.910
able to remember when we actually get around

00:33:35.910 --> 00:33:41.089
to record this shit like yeah really really didn't

00:33:41.089 --> 00:33:44.569
get it but no but it was it was a good move to

00:33:44.569 --> 00:33:49.190
watch but yeah I couldn't name it modified hip

00:33:49.190 --> 00:34:14.639
thrust style thing Yeah Yeah, we're not quite

00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.320
we're not quite that we're not that far out the

00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:22.900
loop just yet Yes, like I said this much finishes

00:34:22.900 --> 00:34:26.079
with the select the combination from Charlotte

00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.679
Flair of the super kick into natural selection

00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.679
which I will say is actually quite a nice little

00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.500
move anyway and the figure eight lock is always

00:34:34.500 --> 00:34:38.960
something that she's used and this time though

00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.360
she did lock it in and lock it in properly to

00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:47.739
the fact that BFab taps out and Charlotte Flair

00:34:47.739 --> 00:34:51.320
is not having any of it she's decided that even

00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.159
with the bell ringing, I think it was three times

00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.619
in total they rang that bell, that she was not

00:34:56.619 --> 00:35:00.099
letting that hold off. And the only time she

00:35:00.099 --> 00:35:03.559
did release that hold is when we got to see Charlotte

00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:07.579
Flair's WrestleMania opponent come running down

00:35:07.579 --> 00:35:12.400
to the ring. WrestleMania opponent and current

00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:18.000
SmackDown Women's Champion, Tiffany Stratton.

00:35:18.179 --> 00:35:22.519
And she came out. We got some tiffy time, but

00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.780
this isn't the Tiffany. This isn't the tiffy.

00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.559
We're used to seeing Bad bitch tiffy. She comes

00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:32.679
yeah now like she wanted to name Charlotte Flair

00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.280
and I mean, I think maim is pretty much what

00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:43.780
they did what happens next Does not I? Don't

00:35:43.780 --> 00:35:49.460
think we can put into words the rule that these

00:35:49.460 --> 00:35:58.260
two women get into. Like, it was absolute mayhem.

00:36:03.539 --> 00:36:05.699
Tiffy and Charlotte Flair decide they're going

00:36:05.699 --> 00:36:07.639
to get into it. They're not waiting until WrestleMania.

00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:09.679
They're having some and they're having some now.

00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:14.039
And yeah, they're just beating each other left,

00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:18.219
right and centre. One note I did make from this

00:36:18.219 --> 00:36:20.869
beatdown. at one point at the bottom of the ramp

00:36:20.869 --> 00:36:24.489
you have a selection of security trying to hold

00:36:24.489 --> 00:36:30.170
Charlotte flare back and Tiffy moonsaults off

00:36:30.170 --> 00:36:34.190
I think it was the turnbuckle rather than the

00:36:34.190 --> 00:36:39.710
ropes and she takes out the entire group of security

00:36:39.710 --> 00:36:42.190
with the moonsault does not hit Charlotte at

00:36:42.190 --> 00:36:44.309
all but Charlotte just falls over like a pin

00:36:44.309 --> 00:36:49.429
in the uh in a bowling alley she was just the

00:36:49.429 --> 00:36:51.949
one on the corner the entire lot of them tumbled

00:36:51.949 --> 00:36:55.070
but yeah she completely missed charlotte by a

00:36:55.070 --> 00:36:59.690
mile but whipped out most of the security if

00:36:59.690 --> 00:37:01.670
not all of the security i think tumbled with

00:37:01.670 --> 00:37:03.969
that moon so it was uh it was quite funny to

00:37:03.969 --> 00:37:11.349
watch actually oh 100 and um yeah this this brawl

00:37:11.349 --> 00:37:17.289
is this absolute chaos Just ends up it becomes

00:37:17.289 --> 00:37:21.050
a bit of a focal point really Yeah, because they

00:37:21.050 --> 00:37:23.369
finally managed to separate these two women.

00:37:23.530 --> 00:37:26.829
Bearing in mind like these two women are going

00:37:26.829 --> 00:37:31.050
absolutely nuts they finally managed to separate

00:37:31.050 --> 00:37:38.230
them and they take it takes us into a Drew Mackin

00:37:38.230 --> 00:37:44.840
crier promo About This is basically just Drew

00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:50.280
crying about Damian Priest and then we get a

00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.719
recap of the last half months and what these

00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:56.039
two have done to each other to get up to this

00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:59.539
point that we have where Damian Priest and Drew

00:37:59.539 --> 00:38:01.360
McIntyre look like they're going to end up with

00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:06.260
a match on the grandest stage of them all. It's

00:38:06.260 --> 00:38:09.179
basically just saying that how every time Drew

00:38:09.179 --> 00:38:13.469
gets somewhere Starts getting in front of himself

00:38:13.469 --> 00:38:17.110
He gets screwed and there's only one person that

00:38:17.110 --> 00:38:19.610
benefits from him from him getting screwed every

00:38:19.610 --> 00:38:22.710
time and it's Damian Priest Obviously Drew won

00:38:22.710 --> 00:38:25.730
the title Damian cashed in his money in the bank

00:38:25.730 --> 00:38:32.630
to then beat Drew to take said title Money money

00:38:32.630 --> 00:38:37.690
in the bank there was a that issue Priest eliminated

00:38:37.690 --> 00:38:41.550
Drew McIntyre at the Royal Rumble and then eliminated

00:38:41.550 --> 00:38:44.170
him again from the elimination chamber, cutting

00:38:44.170 --> 00:38:47.309
off his last opportunity to get to the main event

00:38:47.309 --> 00:38:51.510
of WrestleMania that way. Yeah, Damian Priest

00:38:51.510 --> 00:38:54.130
has pretty much been doing what he can to fuck

00:38:54.130 --> 00:38:58.010
with Drew as much as he can recently, well, over

00:38:58.010 --> 00:39:01.510
the last 12 months. And Drew basically says that

00:39:01.510 --> 00:39:03.550
he's gonna give Priest that much of an ass -kicking

00:39:03.550 --> 00:39:05.710
that he won't be able to take anything from him

00:39:05.710 --> 00:39:13.480
ever again. Yeah, it's It's a cup. It's a couple

00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.800
of minutes of crying from Drew basically pretty

00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.840
much With a few little clips of things that the

00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.780
visual of what he's talking about within him

00:39:24.780 --> 00:39:35.070
crying Yeah Yeah, and this then goes into An

00:39:35.070 --> 00:39:40.570
in -ring promo, which is an episode of Miz TV.

00:39:40.789 --> 00:39:43.550
Now this is the first episode of Miz TV that

00:39:43.550 --> 00:39:46.309
we have featured here on Finishers of the Factions.

00:39:47.989 --> 00:39:52.429
And to be fair, as much as I dislike The Miz,

00:39:53.429 --> 00:39:57.510
this was probably one of the best episodes of

00:39:57.510 --> 00:40:01.429
Miz TV. The smug little bastard walks himself

00:40:01.429 --> 00:40:04.849
down to the ring with his microphone. And then

00:40:04.849 --> 00:40:07.750
Charlotte Flair and Tiffany Stratton come bursting

00:40:07.750 --> 00:40:10.550
back out into the arena, beating the living crap

00:40:10.550 --> 00:40:15.969
out of each other still. So, yeah, they basically

00:40:15.969 --> 00:40:18.670
sodded MizTV off. The cameras all went back to

00:40:18.670 --> 00:40:22.789
see Charlotte Flair and Tiffy going absolutely

00:40:22.789 --> 00:40:29.050
nuts at the back of the arena. Yeah. Yeah, I

00:40:29.050 --> 00:40:31.130
very much got the impression that this wasn't

00:40:31.130 --> 00:40:36.630
planned. It wasn't something that they'd I don't

00:40:36.630 --> 00:40:39.630
certainly don't think they told Miz about this

00:40:39.630 --> 00:40:42.730
interruption to his segment Because I very much

00:40:42.730 --> 00:40:45.110
got the impression that that wasn't what he was

00:40:45.110 --> 00:40:49.429
wasn't what he was expecting Yeah, I personally

00:40:49.429 --> 00:40:53.309
feel that those two may have some real -life

00:40:53.309 --> 00:40:57.030
heat And they were just using that to build a

00:40:57.030 --> 00:40:59.070
little bit more into this WrestleMania match.

00:40:59.090 --> 00:41:01.969
Don't get me wrong. It worked I'm a lot more

00:41:01.969 --> 00:41:06.530
invested in this match after watching this segment

00:41:06.530 --> 00:41:10.110
than I was anyway. Normally, I must admit when

00:41:10.110 --> 00:41:12.329
it comes to WrestleMania and Charlotte, I use

00:41:12.329 --> 00:41:14.130
her matches as an opportunity to go and make

00:41:14.130 --> 00:41:16.389
some food and get a drink and bathroom break

00:41:16.389 --> 00:41:19.849
and stuff like that. But now I'm slightly more

00:41:19.849 --> 00:41:22.730
intrigued by the fact that I want to watch Tiffy

00:41:22.730 --> 00:41:25.570
beat Charlotte and retain that championship just

00:41:25.570 --> 00:41:28.349
because Charlotte doesn't need another Raccolade.

00:41:29.530 --> 00:41:37.070
Tiffy could do with the the scalp definite future

00:41:37.070 --> 00:41:41.090
Hall of Famer from the women's division Yeah,

00:41:41.170 --> 00:41:48.510
very much so very much so but yeah once Tiffany

00:41:48.510 --> 00:41:51.449
and Charlotte are ushered back out in ushered

00:41:51.449 --> 00:41:55.869
back into the back as such it is a case that

00:41:56.940 --> 00:42:02.079
Yeah, we get to proceed with Miz TV, which isn't

00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:10.059
a particularly long segment Miz is there basically

00:42:10.059 --> 00:42:14.679
to interview Cody Rhodes and I think Cody Rhodes's

00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:18.679
Intro was probably longer than the Miz TV segment

00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:23.579
in total Yeah, well Miz basically started picking

00:42:23.579 --> 00:42:26.400
on Cody didn't he said that Cody last week got

00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.260
beat oh elimination chamber got beaten up by

00:42:29.260 --> 00:42:33.480
two great rappers and he is a man who will be

00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:37.420
facing you know Cody got beaten up by two great

00:42:37.420 --> 00:42:39.199
rappers one of them being Travis Scott the other

00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:42.400
one being John Cena who is Cody's WrestleMania

00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:47.059
opponent but unlike them is Cody won't be beating

00:42:47.059 --> 00:42:51.590
Cena at WrestleMania because obviously We can't

00:42:51.590 --> 00:42:53.909
have a conversation about John Cena in WrestleMania

00:42:53.909 --> 00:42:56.409
without the Miz having to inform us yet again

00:42:56.409 --> 00:42:59.269
That he was the one to beat John Cena at WrestleMania

00:42:59.269 --> 00:43:04.250
for a title That's probably the you know, one

00:43:04.250 --> 00:43:06.130
of the only things he's done at WrestleMania

00:43:06.130 --> 00:43:08.530
So he does get to keep harping on about that

00:43:08.530 --> 00:43:14.989
one and has done so again this week Yeah, when

00:43:14.989 --> 00:43:18.400
Cody Rhodes comes down to the ring he He's trying

00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:23.739
to do his normal intro and Miz being the annoying

00:43:23.739 --> 00:43:28.059
little asshole that we know he is and we love

00:43:28.059 --> 00:43:32.860
him so dearly for, not. Tells the production

00:43:32.860 --> 00:43:37.000
team to cut Cody's music. He says we don't have

00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:42.730
time for a sing -along with Cody Rhodes. Cody

00:43:42.730 --> 00:43:45.030
kicks him in the gut and sets him up for a crossroads

00:43:45.030 --> 00:43:47.210
on that one because Cody had had enough of Miz

00:43:47.210 --> 00:43:51.710
already and the fact that Cody then goes on to

00:43:51.710 --> 00:43:55.190
inform us that He doesn't actually want to talk

00:43:55.190 --> 00:43:58.530
to the Miz at all The only person he wants to

00:43:58.530 --> 00:44:01.269
talk to is his WrestleMania opponent the man

00:44:01.269 --> 00:44:05.369
that no one can see Mr. John Cena and basically

00:44:05.369 --> 00:44:09.289
just says look on Monday I'm gonna be on Monday

00:44:09.289 --> 00:44:13.940
Night Raw You gonna be there because we need

00:44:13.940 --> 00:44:20.500
to have a conversation Yeah, well we already

00:44:20.500 --> 00:44:23.619
know that John Cena is gonna be on raw on Monday

00:44:23.619 --> 00:44:26.619
It was announced on Monday just gone. He's basically

00:44:26.619 --> 00:44:31.780
Cody's basically saying yeah, I'm gonna be I'm

00:44:31.780 --> 00:44:34.019
gonna be on raw on Monday just to come face to

00:44:34.019 --> 00:44:38.559
face with this with Mr. Hussle loyalty respect

00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:43.480
not And we'll see what he's got to say for himself

00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:54.960
so something to look forward to for Monday Not

00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:58.679
the final boss we get no nobody said the rock

00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:10.559
is gonna be in attendance on Monday heard in

00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.800
theory possibly possibly see rocky boy as well

00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:19.480
but i say that's a theory um we went from this

00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:24.400
little segment into a backstage segment with

00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.559
nick aldis this guy's been busy already and this

00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:33.260
is only one match so far two matches two matches

00:45:33.260 --> 00:45:35.599
in a fight well one match in a fight let's put

00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:39.079
it that way We've seen it twice already and he's

00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.860
basically telling off Shinsuke Nakamura for misting

00:45:41.860 --> 00:45:46.099
the wrath and Shinsuke's like, I don't really

00:45:46.099 --> 00:45:49.219
care about that. I just want my rematch. Where's

00:45:49.219 --> 00:45:55.420
my rematch? That's when we find Damien Priest

00:45:55.420 --> 00:46:02.179
come in looking for Drew and he's told that Drew's

00:46:02.179 --> 00:46:05.159
gone. And we're left with Priest saying that

00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:09.119
he wants to fight and Nakamura wants his rematch.

00:46:09.659 --> 00:46:12.519
So Nick Aldis sets up a match between Damian

00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:17.500
Priest and Shinsuke Nakamura for a little bit

00:46:17.500 --> 00:46:20.940
later on. Which we then find out as we scroll

00:46:20.940 --> 00:46:27.369
through is our next match. we go into this men's

00:46:27.369 --> 00:46:30.110
singles match that was set up just a few moments

00:46:30.110 --> 00:46:33.510
ago between Shinsuke Nakamura and Damian Priest

00:46:33.510 --> 00:46:39.070
and uh this just sort of adds this match just

00:46:39.070 --> 00:46:42.130
sort of illustrated to me why I knew I was right

00:46:42.130 --> 00:46:48.809
about Shinsuke Nakamura yeah his time in the

00:46:48.809 --> 00:46:52.690
WWE is done yeah he doesn't really look like

00:46:52.690 --> 00:46:54.889
he wants to be there the matches they're putting

00:46:54.889 --> 00:47:20.840
him in I just feel like Nakamura is not putting

00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:24.139
the effort in anymore. feel like when he first

00:47:24.139 --> 00:47:31.380
debuted back in 2017 I believe yeah when he first

00:47:31.380 --> 00:47:34.179
debuted he came in with an awful lot of energy

00:47:34.179 --> 00:47:36.460
and some poor promo skills and then he's leaving

00:47:36.460 --> 00:47:40.840
with no energy and even worse promo skills yeah

00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:48.559
there's just there's there's just no there's

00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:52.360
yeah there's just there's nothing there there's

00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:58.239
no substance he's a warm body at this point and

00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:03.099
even during this match like Damian Priest takes

00:48:03.099 --> 00:48:06.599
early control it is a case that Damian Priest

00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:11.639
pretty much has full control up until the midway

00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:15.440
point of this match if not a little bit later

00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:23.550
in to be fair My notes for this aren't huge No

00:48:23.550 --> 00:48:25.969
mine aren't either. In fact one of the notes

00:48:25.969 --> 00:48:33.909
I put down One of the notes I put down for this

00:48:33.909 --> 00:48:36.949
match is I felt that even the even sort of commentary

00:48:36.949 --> 00:48:40.389
on smackdown were struggling with trying to sort

00:48:40.389 --> 00:48:46.469
of hype this match up because Yeah, you just

00:48:46.469 --> 00:48:52.880
I've just very much got the Got the impression

00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:58.780
that he just wasn't he weren't in this He weren't

00:48:58.780 --> 00:49:02.219
he's hot right Damien Priest was doing his best,

00:49:02.219 --> 00:49:04.780
but there's only so much you can do in a one

00:49:04.780 --> 00:49:21.719
-man in a sort of a one -man 95 percent of it.

00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:23.679
I know Damian Sandow probably would have given

00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:25.579
it a good go and probably put on a better match

00:49:25.579 --> 00:49:27.699
than what Shinsuke Nakamura could these days

00:49:27.699 --> 00:49:31.940
against himself but it was yeah it was it was

00:49:31.940 --> 00:49:36.380
poor um what I've got notes wise here was Damian

00:49:36.380 --> 00:49:38.820
Priest managed to hit a rather nice south of

00:49:38.820 --> 00:49:41.699
heaven but we all know Damian Priest can hit

00:49:41.699 --> 00:49:46.980
that move well um and I also got that he counted

00:49:46.980 --> 00:49:52.980
a Kinshasa at one point and we had some interference

00:49:52.980 --> 00:49:57.940
from Mr. Mackencryer. Yeah, so Mackencryer sort

00:49:57.940 --> 00:50:00.679
of just, he may, he just made a random appearance

00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.739
at the announce desk part way through the match

00:50:03.739 --> 00:50:07.019
and it just sort of, it took, I think it took

00:50:07.019 --> 00:50:09.280
everybody off their game because he did just

00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:13.420
seem to appear out of nowhere. And this wasn't

00:50:13.420 --> 00:50:15.059
Randy Orton we're talking about, this is Drew

00:50:15.059 --> 00:50:26.039
McIntyre. Yeah. and the distraction sort of started

00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:28.980
to give Shinsuke a little bit of hope in the

00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:35.400
match from what I watched but it still ended

00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:41.739
up being moved to being called as a no contest

00:50:41.739 --> 00:50:44.860
after Drew just couldn't keep his hands to himself

00:50:44.860 --> 00:50:52.559
basically Damien Priest's eye sockets pretty

00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.039
much and while Damien Priest was reading from

00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:58.539
that Shinsuke Nakamura hit him with a kinshasa

00:50:58.539 --> 00:51:02.699
to the back of the head and then we saw sort

00:51:02.699 --> 00:51:06.719
of like him staring Drew McIntyre out before

00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:09.099
he basically goes I know what's coming I'm getting

00:51:09.099 --> 00:51:13.059
the fuck out of here on leaves before Drew starts

00:51:13.059 --> 00:51:17.619
beating Damien Priest down and yeah he throws

00:51:17.619 --> 00:51:20.159
him out the ring throws him into the barricades

00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:23.539
throws him into the steel steps like priest is

00:51:23.539 --> 00:51:28.260
pretty much done at this point and then uh that's

00:51:28.260 --> 00:51:30.619
pretty much mcintyre has just had his fun really

00:51:30.619 --> 00:51:32.960
i think this is definitely built into we're going

00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:36.539
to get a priest versus mcintyre match at mania

00:51:36.539 --> 00:51:39.239
whether they decide to throw an extra person

00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:42.619
in there or make it a triple threat between them

00:51:42.619 --> 00:51:46.199
it'd be an interesting one but i think it's more

00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:48.219
than likely going to be priest versus mcintyre

00:51:48.219 --> 00:51:52.039
at mania I was gonna say, I don't see Nakamura

00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:55.800
getting another WrestleMania moment at this stage.

00:51:56.099 --> 00:51:58.579
It just doesn't seem to make sense to do anything

00:51:58.579 --> 00:52:03.099
like that for him. Especially when he's not really

00:52:03.099 --> 00:52:19.699
giving the effort that would warrant that. segment

00:52:19.699 --> 00:52:23.360
where we have a backstage interview with Cathy

00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:35.679
Kelly talking to the BITWTT, whatever they call

00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:38.360
themselves. Basically, he's talking to DIY who

00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:41.440
like to refer to themselves as the best tag team

00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:50.559
in the world or something like that. world which

00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:54.699
is a bit of a stretch when we get to see the

00:52:54.699 --> 00:53:01.440
best tag team ever on NXT last week yeah well

00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:09.719
it's just a case now that again I'm not really

00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:12.480
feeling the love for DIY anymore at the moment

00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:14.880
I think that they've overplayed their hand a

00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:17.719
little bit Yeah, they're running towards the

00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:20.360
end of their story. Now they've done the dirty

00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.860
deed with pretty deadly and they've used pretty

00:53:22.860 --> 00:53:26.579
deadly as much as they can. Everyone's kind of

00:53:26.579 --> 00:53:31.280
seen what they're capable of when it comes to

00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:35.599
the manipulation of the head games. They've also

00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:39.940
seen what DIY can do. They're very good tag champions,

00:53:40.139 --> 00:53:42.860
very good tag team, but they are limited in their

00:53:42.860 --> 00:53:45.139
moveset and it's... They've been champions for

00:53:45.139 --> 00:53:48.940
that long. They've faced every other team in

00:53:48.940 --> 00:53:51.579
the division multiple times. Everyone's kind

00:53:51.579 --> 00:53:57.360
of got their number marked now. This backstage

00:53:57.360 --> 00:53:59.039
interview is building up to their match with

00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:05.219
Street Profits. Tomasa Ciampa asks why Smackdown

00:54:05.219 --> 00:54:07.559
is the greatest tag team division and they basically

00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.199
say it's because DIY are there and they're at

00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:11.760
the top and everyone's trying to reach their

00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:16.320
level. When they are very politely interrupted

00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:19.880
by what is becoming my favorite tag team in the

00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:25.500
division the Motor City machine guns No, it's

00:54:25.500 --> 00:54:33.840
definitely one of Adam's favorite Oh MCM G's

00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:42.990
gotta gotta love a bit of Alex Shelley Definitely

00:54:42.990 --> 00:54:47.030
not. I might have temporarily forgotten his name,

00:54:47.030 --> 00:54:51.050
but yeah. It's alright. I had to get you to remind

00:54:51.050 --> 00:54:53.190
me about Alex Shelley for me to be able to remember

00:54:53.190 --> 00:54:57.269
Chris Saban at the time. So they basically came

00:54:57.269 --> 00:55:00.949
in talking about the cheap shots that DIY gave

00:55:00.949 --> 00:55:04.269
to them to win the titles and how they have unfinished

00:55:04.269 --> 00:55:08.809
business with DIY after DIY have their match

00:55:08.809 --> 00:55:14.420
today with... re -profits for the tag titles

00:55:14.420 --> 00:55:16.900
and I'm not going to lie, I'm kind of hoping

00:55:16.900 --> 00:55:21.519
that they do manage to give DIY the old slip

00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:28.280
and have a run with the titles because they were

00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.880
supposed to have a title match before they got

00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.679
injured, weren't they? Yeah, very much so. So

00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:42.519
it's a case that I think if DIY were to walk

00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.320
out of the main event on this card with the tag

00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:47.980
titles, it would be a case that we'll see them

00:55:47.980 --> 00:55:51.280
versus Motor City Machine Guns again. If they

00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:53.519
don't and they're stripped to the titles that

00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:57.920
are at the end of the card, it's a case that

00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:11.679
we'll probably end up seeing. which was really

00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:13.980
hard to make notes on was only two people allowed

00:56:13.980 --> 00:56:16.380
in the ring at the same time between Motor City

00:56:16.380 --> 00:56:24.340
Machine Guns pretty deadly and lost Garza and

00:56:24.340 --> 00:56:27.340
pretty deadly managed to get a cheeky roll -up

00:56:27.340 --> 00:56:29.960
to win that for the to become the number one

00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:34.840
contenders for the tag team championship after

00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:40.480
this match in the main event later so It's either

00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:43.079
going to be that DIY and Motor City Machine Guns

00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:45.219
end up having a title match or a grudge match.

00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:49.380
It's one of the two. And then if Street Profits

00:56:49.380 --> 00:56:51.960
walk out at the end, they will be facing pretty

00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:56.920
deadly in their first title defense. Now, during

00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:01.320
this match or during this program where we watched

00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:04.139
it live, there was quite a few sections where

00:57:04.139 --> 00:57:07.940
they had like adverts and stuff that Netflix

00:57:07.940 --> 00:57:12.150
couldn't. Show so they put in like a little VT

00:57:12.150 --> 00:57:16.349
of who's who in wrestling And on the current

00:57:16.349 --> 00:57:19.570
roster now there was one little bit where they

00:57:19.570 --> 00:57:23.730
had four people in a group One of them was so

00:57:23.730 --> 00:57:26.090
less of color one of them was Tawa Tonga one

00:57:26.090 --> 00:57:29.070
of them was Jacob Fatu There was a fourth guy

00:57:29.070 --> 00:57:32.510
in one of the pitches. Do you know who that was?

00:57:33.329 --> 00:57:39.730
Yes Who was it? Tonga Loa Right, okay Because

00:57:39.730 --> 00:57:41.590
I remember you asking me at the time when we

00:57:41.590 --> 00:57:43.389
were watching it and I think I actually told

00:57:43.389 --> 00:57:45.090
you at the time when we were watching it. Possibly,

00:57:45.090 --> 00:57:49.869
but I didn't make notes of it at the time. No,

00:57:49.989 --> 00:57:52.210
I didn't, but the minute you started asking the

00:57:52.210 --> 00:57:57.510
question I knew the answer. Because I remember

00:57:57.510 --> 00:57:59.690
having to go and research who the hell it was

00:57:59.690 --> 00:58:02.050
because I spotted the same thing as you and was

00:58:02.050 --> 00:58:04.349
like, yeah, I'm not entirely sure who that is

00:58:04.349 --> 00:58:07.750
either. Yeah, so he is a member of the bloodline.

00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:15.719
Currently out with a torn bicep which he suffered

00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:19.579
a survivor series and is requiring surgery So

00:58:19.579 --> 00:58:25.219
he's currently out indefinitely So yeah, he's

00:58:25.219 --> 00:58:29.300
made He's made in ring appearances within the

00:58:29.300 --> 00:58:33.460
group But he he got injured when CM Punk came

00:58:33.460 --> 00:58:39.099
with a toolbox and it popped his bicep Which

00:58:39.099 --> 00:58:43.380
is a little bit unfortunate, but all the same,

00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:46.340
we will probably see him back in in -ring action

00:58:46.340 --> 00:58:52.539
soon once he's had his surgery and healed properly

00:58:52.539 --> 00:58:57.800
from it. But he is also Tamatanga's adopted brother.

00:58:59.460 --> 00:59:03.159
All right, okay. He's going into that much detail

00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:05.800
in the research of him. That was literally just

00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:07.820
me scrolling through Wikipedia on my phone quickly

00:59:07.820 --> 00:59:11.460
while we were going. Fair enough. That's where

00:59:11.460 --> 00:59:13.360
a majority of our research comes from, let's

00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:18.179
face it. We then had a little section about who's

00:59:18.179 --> 00:59:21.099
who in the crowd with some of the celebrities

00:59:21.099 --> 00:59:26.219
that were in attendance. The one they focused

00:59:26.219 --> 00:59:30.880
on most that I remember was Lameen Yamal who

00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:36.280
is a football player for FC Barcelona. For those

00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:40.019
of you who are England fans. That is the guy

00:59:40.019 --> 00:59:43.500
that absolutely destroyed us in the last international

00:59:43.500 --> 00:59:49.280
tournament when he was 16. So yeah, poor guy

00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:52.639
is a very talented individual and he is a massive

00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:57.360
WWE fan. So it was nice to have Yamin Lamal in

00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:00.860
attendance. Well, they had a few others from

01:00:00.860 --> 01:00:05.500
FC Barcelona as well in there. Yamin Lamal was

01:00:05.500 --> 01:00:07.420
the only name I remembered and the only one I

01:00:07.420 --> 01:00:11.699
recognised. I'm not a huge English football fan.

01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:18.480
No, I'm not. I'm more of a lover of playing soccer

01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:24.079
than actually watching it. I'll watch the international

01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:26.960
tournaments and things like that and I'll take

01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:32.039
an interest. But in terms of club level, no interest.

01:00:34.380 --> 01:00:37.880
So yeah, but the next the bit that we went to

01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:42.260
after that I believe Was all to do with a back

01:00:42.260 --> 01:00:45.079
another backstage promo with another interview

01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:48.699
with Kathy Kelly But this time she's interviewing

01:00:48.699 --> 01:00:54.840
Chelsea Green and her secret her this Yes, that

01:00:54.840 --> 01:01:00.639
is Well up until last week was just Piper Nevin

01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:05.599
now She has a new member of her secret service

01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:10.780
in Alba fire as well Yeah, now I had trouble

01:01:10.780 --> 01:01:13.960
placing Alba fire. I definitely remember hearing

01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:17.039
the name. I've got a feeling we've seen her in

01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:25.619
NXT I Was hoping you might have known but it's

01:01:25.619 --> 01:01:30.159
not the end of the world but yeah, I mean basically

01:01:30.809 --> 01:01:35.050
Green's now saying that her secret hervice is

01:01:35.050 --> 01:01:38.289
at full force now with Albert Fire being involved.

01:01:44.369 --> 01:01:49.150
We then get a visit from somebody who I'm very

01:01:49.150 --> 01:01:54.170
much a fan of just because I'm very much an advocate

01:01:54.170 --> 01:01:56.849
for. I won't say a fan of because I just don't

01:01:56.849 --> 01:02:01.409
think we've seen enough from her in a in any

01:02:01.409 --> 01:02:07.650
sort of a big way. Alba Fye was in the inaugural

01:02:07.650 --> 01:02:11.969
Mae Young Classic in 2017. She signed for WWE

01:02:11.969 --> 01:02:17.469
in 2019 onto the NXT brand. She is a one -time

01:02:17.469 --> 01:02:21.289
NXT UK women's champion holding the record for

01:02:21.289 --> 01:02:28.079
the longest WWE women's reign at 649 days. Wow

01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:32.679
moved to NXT and changed her name to Alba fire

01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:37.300
and she became a one -time NXT Women's Tag Team

01:02:37.300 --> 01:02:41.739
Championship alongside Isla Dawn With her team

01:02:41.739 --> 01:02:44.260
being the final holder of the championship before

01:02:44.260 --> 01:02:47.079
it was unified with the WWE Women's Tag Team

01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:49.360
Championship and moved up to the main roster

01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:56.340
in April last year where she won the Women's

01:02:56.340 --> 01:02:58.659
tag team championship becoming the second female

01:02:58.659 --> 01:03:02.079
tag team to have won both the WWE and the NXT

01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:08.280
tag team with again Isla Dawn Now she is a member

01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:11.840
of the secret service with Piper Nevin for Chelsea

01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:17.820
Green So to be fair she has been within the business

01:03:17.820 --> 01:03:20.820
for a long time and started off on the indie

01:03:20.820 --> 01:03:23.739
circuit as well actually with ICW wrestling A

01:03:23.739 --> 01:03:26.400
lot of them seem to, because she's a British

01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:29.920
wrestler as well. I say British, she's from Scotland.

01:03:30.780 --> 01:03:34.159
So we won't piss her off too much. No, let's

01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:49.219
not. Yeah, definitely a good one there. Yeah,

01:03:49.219 --> 01:03:54.789
so we are... Selena Vega come in basically to

01:03:54.789 --> 01:03:58.070
remind Chelsea Green that she's already stated

01:03:58.070 --> 01:04:02.550
her intentions to go after the Women's United

01:04:02.550 --> 01:04:05.409
States Championship. Selena Vega, we haven't

01:04:05.409 --> 01:04:08.030
seen a lot of her. She does pop up occasionally

01:04:08.030 --> 01:04:11.190
in the odd backstage segment, but we haven't

01:04:11.190 --> 01:04:13.090
seen her in the ring for a little while. I'm

01:04:13.090 --> 01:04:15.550
kind of looking forward to it, to when we get

01:04:15.550 --> 01:04:17.309
the opportunity and at the end of this segment

01:04:17.309 --> 01:04:19.510
we find out we're not going to have to wait too

01:04:19.510 --> 01:04:23.329
much longer because next week... we have a match

01:04:23.329 --> 01:04:29.010
between Zelina Vega and Poipen Nevin. Well, Zelina

01:04:29.010 --> 01:04:32.429
Vega made her way to Smackdown after being transferred

01:04:32.429 --> 01:04:36.309
during the transfer window earlier in the year

01:04:36.309 --> 01:04:42.139
from Raw, where she was a member of LWO. over

01:04:42.139 --> 01:04:44.980
to Smackdown where she was separated from all

01:04:44.980 --> 01:04:48.000
of that it was a very emotional farewell they

01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.780
had their last match together on Raw and then

01:04:50.780 --> 01:04:53.619
she came over to Smackdown and she's sort of

01:04:53.619 --> 01:04:56.519
she's just been floating in and out basically

01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:59.860
trying to get the lay of the land by the looks

01:04:59.860 --> 01:05:05.400
of it and sort of set her in set her eyes solely

01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:11.039
on Chelsea Green and Chelsea Green's championship.

01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:13.519
Well, let's face it this way, Zelina Vega's been

01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:15.760
looking for some low hanging fruit and she's

01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:21.460
found it in Chelsea Green. Yeah, fair enough.

01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:29.019
But yeah, I'm the same as you. I'm looking forward

01:05:29.019 --> 01:05:36.360
to for Vega to show us next week why it is that

01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:42.000
she gets The WWE money essentially because we

01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.659
haven't seen a massive amount of massive amount

01:05:44.659 --> 01:05:48.320
of her to be able to say oh, yeah, no, this is

01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:50.940
We're definitely seeing that WWE are getting

01:05:50.940 --> 01:05:53.380
their money's worth sort of thing at the minute.

01:05:53.380 --> 01:05:59.539
We've sort of had very much the opposite Which

01:05:59.539 --> 01:06:05.190
is not something we can say Guessing as normal

01:06:05.190 --> 01:06:07.530
we've got another BT that I've forgotten to write

01:06:07.530 --> 01:06:14.170
No, your your spot on track so far Money the

01:06:14.170 --> 01:06:17.130
two guys in this match both at different ends

01:06:17.130 --> 01:06:20.949
of the scale when Randy Orton is fit He's probably

01:06:20.949 --> 01:06:23.849
making a fair chunk of change doing what he does

01:06:23.849 --> 01:06:27.230
and does very well Where recently you've seen

01:06:27.230 --> 01:06:29.769
an awful lot of Carmelo Hayes, so his paycheck's

01:06:29.769 --> 01:06:34.469
been going up with his appearance money Yeah,

01:06:34.570 --> 01:06:41.210
very much so No, he's definitely been getting

01:06:41.210 --> 01:06:44.630
his appearances in and not being poor quality

01:06:44.630 --> 01:06:49.050
appearances either like he's not being Jobbed

01:06:49.050 --> 01:06:52.309
out like we're used to him being a majority of

01:06:52.309 --> 01:06:54.369
the time He's actually being allowed to have

01:06:54.369 --> 01:07:00.309
some fun and get on and do some stuff Yeah, this

01:07:00.309 --> 01:07:05.670
is it and Do you know what I actually really

01:07:05.670 --> 01:07:09.010
enjoyed this match in general this match was

01:07:09.010 --> 01:07:13.269
that was One of my more favorite matches of this

01:07:13.269 --> 01:07:18.449
card was Randy Orton versus Carmelo Hayes as

01:07:18.449 --> 01:07:22.489
I'm always a fan of seeing the Viper go. Anyway,

01:07:22.670 --> 01:07:33.420
it's it's one of those Whether he's been playing

01:07:33.420 --> 01:07:37.039
a heel roll or a face roll, he still brings the

01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:43.900
pain and he brings his best every time. And his

01:07:43.900 --> 01:07:46.579
best is always pretty much phenomenal and smart.

01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:50.480
I don't think I can say in recent times that

01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:52.400
I've watched a Randy Orton match and gone, that

01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:57.400
was a really bad match. Yeah, I think I'm in

01:07:57.400 --> 01:08:01.679
the same boat as you to be honest. Recalling

01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:06.559
any match in Any sort of memory of mine that

01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:10.159
I remember seeing Randy Orton in and it being

01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:13.440
I'm coming out of that match thinking do you

01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:22.659
know what actually that was pretty shit So yeah

01:08:22.659 --> 01:08:29.909
No, it definitely did not and I've been a little

01:08:29.909 --> 01:08:36.789
bit upset if it had to be honest but yeah I mean

01:08:36.789 --> 01:08:43.229
it's a case that Hayes was completely outclassed

01:08:43.229 --> 01:08:46.550
in this match basically he didn't really sort

01:08:46.550 --> 01:08:50.810
of stand much of a chance in my view and considering

01:08:50.810 --> 01:08:53.569
this is Randy Orton's first match since October

01:08:53.569 --> 01:09:00.079
last year he he looked pretty Fucking good. There

01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:02.739
was no ring rust there at all really to be fair

01:09:02.739 --> 01:09:12.760
We did see a few little opportunities He did

01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:17.300
get a very nice toe drop toe hold On Randy knocking

01:09:17.300 --> 01:09:19.579
the absolute air out of him before he tried to

01:09:19.579 --> 01:09:23.560
lock in a submission move With Randy actually

01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:26.619
struggling to break out, but he does manage to

01:09:26.619 --> 01:09:30.609
get out of it eventually as always randy takes

01:09:30.609 --> 01:09:34.350
himself to his happy place after a very nice

01:09:34.350 --> 01:09:38.710
slap slam like the way he just grabs people at

01:09:38.710 --> 01:09:41.010
a mid -air just tosses them over is incredible

01:09:41.010 --> 01:09:44.909
his speed and his agility even with the injuries

01:09:44.909 --> 01:09:47.770
he's had and even with the age he's at you know

01:09:47.770 --> 01:09:51.250
randy orton's in his early 40s here he's taken

01:09:51.250 --> 01:09:52.989
a lot of bumps over the years and he's given

01:09:52.989 --> 01:09:56.000
out a lot of bumps and Jesus Randy Orton Randy

01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:59.460
Orton's older than that. He's in his edge. He's

01:09:59.460 --> 01:10:02.039
Pretty sure he's crossed the threshold into his

01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:12.100
50s But yeah, I wouldn't want to be doing what

01:10:12.100 --> 01:10:15.840
he's doing I'll tell a lie and just I've literally

01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:21.270
just looked it up. He's 44. Yeah Even though

01:10:21.270 --> 01:10:23.789
he looks better at 44 than I do it at 34, so

01:10:23.789 --> 01:10:27.350
I'm not gonna complain too much Sorry guys my

01:10:27.350 --> 01:10:33.949
bad, my bad. Not even sure that's PG But yeah,

01:10:33.949 --> 01:10:37.649
this match was a way of basically letting Randy

01:10:37.649 --> 01:10:42.050
warm himself up and we got to see a lot of Randy

01:10:42.050 --> 01:10:44.970
Orton signature stuff. We got the DDT off the

01:10:44.970 --> 01:10:49.810
second rope, snap slam To be fair, he called

01:10:49.810 --> 01:10:53.210
Carmelo Hayes in midair at one point. Yeah, I

01:10:53.210 --> 01:10:57.010
used that snap slam for a two count Yeah, but

01:10:57.010 --> 01:10:59.390
then Carmelo Hayes got in some nice moves as

01:10:59.390 --> 01:11:01.670
well. He hit diamond cutter off the second rope

01:11:01.670 --> 01:11:07.689
for a two count I mean he hit a first 48 at one

01:11:07.689 --> 01:11:13.689
point What I did like was the fact he hit the

01:11:13.689 --> 01:11:18.479
first 48 and I'll get Randy Orton's like Slightly

01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:21.579
oversold it to a point and just as Carmelo Hayes

01:11:21.579 --> 01:11:25.779
turned around Randy hit him with a real archer

01:11:25.779 --> 01:11:29.420
Which you'd seen that like it was being teased.

01:11:29.420 --> 01:11:35.140
He does his normal. I'm gonna get you And Carmelo

01:11:35.140 --> 01:11:38.300
Hayes just kept dodging the hell out of it and

01:11:38.300 --> 01:11:40.279
in fairness the one thing that I did put down

01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:43.119
about this match is that sort of Hayes does his

01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:45.800
best to put up a fight but sort of never really

01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:50.939
poses a legitimate threat. No. And we've seen

01:11:50.939 --> 01:11:55.920
that with Carmelo Hayes the last few weeks. He's

01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:59.739
not a bad wrestler. He's not a bad character.

01:12:00.429 --> 01:12:03.210
He's just a very talented in -ring superstar.

01:12:03.210 --> 01:12:06.670
He's just not at the same level as somebody like

01:12:06.670 --> 01:12:09.590
Randy Orton. And that's purely for the fact that

01:12:09.590 --> 01:12:13.390
he just does not have the time in the ring that

01:12:13.390 --> 01:12:18.369
Randy Orton has at the level that Randy Orton

01:12:18.369 --> 01:12:22.529
had it. I mean this guy's 14 time world champion

01:12:22.529 --> 01:12:25.529
or something like that? Something along those

01:12:25.529 --> 01:12:28.170
lines. This guy has spent a lot of time with

01:12:28.170 --> 01:12:33.050
gold around his waist. So he's going to have

01:12:33.050 --> 01:12:37.010
a lot more experience than Carmelo Hayes. Not

01:12:37.010 --> 01:12:40.170
knocking what Carmelo Hayes has done, he's held

01:12:40.170 --> 01:12:44.609
a few titles himself. Not big titles, but he's

01:12:44.609 --> 01:12:49.630
had some titles. Yeah, very much so. You asked

01:12:49.630 --> 01:12:55.470
what he had at one point? I'm not 100 % sure

01:12:55.470 --> 01:13:04.520
on that one, I will be honest. He's a former

01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:11.079
one -time NXT champion. And he's a two -time

01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:15.140
and longest combined reigning NXT North American

01:13:15.140 --> 01:13:19.859
champion. And he had the final NXT Cruiserweight

01:13:19.859 --> 01:13:26.619
reign as well. So he's had some gold. He may

01:13:26.619 --> 01:13:31.039
not have had big gold, but he's held gold. I

01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:33.060
suppose he's had the NXT championship. He's had

01:13:33.060 --> 01:13:37.579
big gold too. Has he had the NXT championship?

01:13:38.100 --> 01:13:40.859
According to Wikipedia, he is a former one -time

01:13:40.859 --> 01:13:47.979
NXT champion. All right, okay. Not sure how much

01:13:47.979 --> 01:13:51.460
I believe that, if I'm honest. Wikipedia is one

01:13:51.460 --> 01:13:57.840
of those things that can be altered, sort of

01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:00.699
thing. I'm literally going through Couple of

01:14:00.699 --> 01:14:03.340
different sources I've got now. I've got here

01:14:03.340 --> 01:14:09.340
trying to see if I can sort of See that somewhere

01:14:09.340 --> 01:14:17.119
but Yeah, it's first title reign according to

01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:20.100
what I can see here It's defeated Bronbreaker

01:14:20.100 --> 01:14:24.159
in the main event of NXT stand and deliver 2023

01:14:25.859 --> 01:14:30.300
All right April 1st 2023 Hayes defeated Breaker

01:14:30.300 --> 01:14:32.760
in the main event of NXT standard deliver to

01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:36.659
win the NXT championship Three months later on

01:14:36.659 --> 01:14:41.899
NXT Hayes turned face after Breaker Enraged over

01:14:41.899 --> 01:14:47.279
having lost the title Turned heel by faking a

01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:49.659
share of respect and attacking Hayes. Yeah, so

01:14:49.659 --> 01:14:53.060
basically he beat Breaker and Breaker turned

01:14:53.060 --> 01:14:57.680
on him to to start that one. And then at NXT

01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.500
Battleground, Hayes defended the title against

01:15:00.500 --> 01:15:07.960
Breaker and then lost it. Retained against Corbin

01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:13.640
at American Bash. Defended against Ila Dragnovic

01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:19.100
at NXT. See, I misunderstood completely. I thought

01:15:19.100 --> 01:15:20.920
we were talking about Randy Orton. I will be

01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:23.689
honest. No, no. Carmelo Hayes has had the yeah,

01:15:23.689 --> 01:15:27.909
and he lost it to Dragunov in a rematch later

01:15:27.909 --> 01:15:34.449
on in the year So no mercy that was the one and

01:15:34.449 --> 01:15:39.170
losing it NXT no mercy in 2023. So yeah, I Don't

01:15:39.170 --> 01:15:41.909
know Randy Orton was main roster before NXT was

01:15:41.909 --> 01:15:47.810
even swimming around in Vince's mind Yeah, maybe

01:15:47.810 --> 01:15:55.149
W and Randy Orton was there well In OVW, Randy

01:15:55.149 --> 01:15:57.829
Orton did have a few title runs, but nothing

01:15:57.829 --> 01:16:00.649
of significance. The first title run he had on

01:16:00.649 --> 01:16:03.529
main roster was as an Intercontinental title

01:16:03.529 --> 01:16:07.649
holder, which he held for a total of 210 days

01:16:07.649 --> 01:16:15.390
back end of 2003 to mid 2004. One of his shortest

01:16:15.390 --> 01:16:19.289
reigns was less than a day, which has happened

01:16:19.289 --> 01:16:26.000
to him twice. Once in 2007 where he won the WWE

01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.340
heavyweight championship and lost it on the same

01:16:28.340 --> 01:16:30.340
night Although according to what I'm reading

01:16:30.340 --> 01:16:32.739
here in front of me. He may have won it back

01:16:32.739 --> 01:16:37.039
again on the same night Because his second reign

01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:40.779
is exactly the same date and lasted for two hundred

01:16:40.779 --> 01:16:44.659
and three days after that he then also had a

01:16:44.659 --> 01:16:49.279
world heavy Yeah, well, his fourth World Heavyweight

01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:52.220
Championship reign lasted less than a day as

01:16:52.220 --> 01:16:57.579
well. I'm surprised he didn't hold the 24 -7

01:16:57.579 --> 01:17:01.460
title for less than an hour at some point. No,

01:17:01.460 --> 01:17:09.039
so no 24 -7, although he's at least twice tag

01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:12.100
team champ, no, three times tag team champions.

01:17:14.939 --> 01:17:19.840
Four times tag team champions apologies Yeah,

01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:23.359
that was his first tag team championship He was

01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:26.739
then a smackdown tag team champion with Bray

01:17:26.739 --> 01:17:34.239
Wyatt and Luke Harper as the Wyatt family Randy

01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:37.180
Orton was yeah, he was draft. He was sort of

01:17:37.180 --> 01:17:42.239
seconded into there at one point And then he's

01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:45.760
had two runs with the Raw Tag Team Champions

01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:53.659
with Matt Riddle as RK Bro. And actually one

01:17:53.659 --> 01:17:56.380
of those WWE Tag Team Championships may have

01:17:56.380 --> 01:17:58.880
actually been one of his last championship reigns

01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:02.079
that he's had up to now. Yeah, so he's had a

01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:04.720
fairly prominent career throughout the time.

01:18:05.859 --> 01:18:09.260
But one man that we did not expect to see in

01:18:09.260 --> 01:18:13.710
this match. We had a visit from Kevin Owens who

01:18:13.710 --> 01:18:16.710
saved Carmelo Hayes from getting punk kicked

01:18:16.710 --> 01:18:22.130
out of the arena and he throws Randy into a steel

01:18:22.130 --> 01:18:26.390
post and then pisses off through the crowd To

01:18:26.390 --> 01:18:29.350
finish that one off at the end. We then cut from

01:18:29.350 --> 01:18:34.810
there into a Jacob Fatu I'm not I want to call

01:18:34.810 --> 01:18:39.069
it a promo. It's not it. It's just Fatu being

01:18:39.069 --> 01:18:42.510
Fatu basically calling out Braun Strowman and

01:18:42.510 --> 01:18:45.109
saying that next week we're going to get another

01:18:45.109 --> 01:18:48.789
match between Jacob Fatu and Braun Strowman.

01:18:50.390 --> 01:18:52.909
It's another one of these really ropey promos

01:18:52.909 --> 01:18:56.369
he has a tendency to do that don't always make

01:18:56.369 --> 01:19:03.390
a tremendous amount of sense. Yeah, I'm still

01:19:03.390 --> 01:19:09.369
very much on the fence. very much on the fence

01:19:09.369 --> 01:19:12.109
as to what it is that he is physically capable

01:19:12.109 --> 01:19:16.109
of doing when it comes to cutting promos because

01:19:16.109 --> 01:19:19.909
i don't believe that he's as capable as a lot

01:19:19.909 --> 01:19:24.029
of people seem to think he is i feel there's

01:19:24.029 --> 01:19:26.630
a lot more improvement needed there before he's

01:19:26.630 --> 01:19:30.810
going to be sort of competent on the mic i think

01:19:30.810 --> 01:19:35.569
a lot of it is more his anxiety to be fair um

01:19:35.569 --> 01:19:38.279
i don't think he's as comfortable liking his

01:19:38.279 --> 01:19:40.340
hand as he possibly could be. He's definitely

01:19:40.340 --> 01:19:46.420
very comfortable in the ring. Someone else that

01:19:46.420 --> 01:19:51.159
is also very comfortable in the ring is the man

01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:54.619
that has held the World Heavyweight Championship

01:19:54.619 --> 01:20:02.840
for the last 223 days with five defences of that

01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:06.539
title in that time. We get the ring, general.

01:20:10.769 --> 01:20:16.369
So just before this happened the tiniest of tiny

01:20:16.369 --> 01:20:19.729
little things we did actually have the smallest

01:20:19.729 --> 01:20:24.449
VT ever which just it was it was basically a

01:20:24.449 --> 01:20:29.050
graphic we had a VT with some smoke and the number

01:20:29.050 --> 01:20:33.840
four We know that these little vignettes are

01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:37.399
normally a precursor to somebody appearing Yeah,

01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:41.680
and the four with the smoke is normally a sign

01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:46.640
that we're gonna see our group of masked amigos

01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:51.899
Not necessarily because that's an NXT thing that's

01:20:51.899 --> 01:21:02.489
not something we'd normally see on That's...

01:21:02.489 --> 01:21:05.670
It can be. It's possibly an Aleister Black reference.

01:21:05.750 --> 01:21:08.670
He's just left AEW and there are some rumours

01:21:08.670 --> 01:21:11.470
floating around that he's going to make an appearance

01:21:11.470 --> 01:21:15.369
back in WWE, but I don't think anything has been

01:21:15.369 --> 01:21:22.229
confirmed yet. No, not yet. But yes, quite right.

01:21:22.310 --> 01:21:26.390
After that happens, we do have a rare in -ring

01:21:26.390 --> 01:21:29.960
promo for Friday Night Smackdown of... Gunther

01:21:29.960 --> 01:21:35.859
coming out as he is Monday Night Raw's resident

01:21:35.859 --> 01:21:49.460
heavyweight champion. He is. I think it was Gunther

01:21:49.460 --> 01:21:52.640
that made a sly dig at the fact that it would

01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:55.899
have been better if they were in Madrid. Yes.

01:21:56.109 --> 01:22:00.010
Obviously Madrid and Barcelona have a lot of

01:22:00.010 --> 01:22:05.970
rivalry with the fact that Real and Barcelona

01:22:05.970 --> 01:22:10.510
are two of the biggest teams in Spanish football

01:22:10.510 --> 01:22:16.729
at the moment. Yeah, pretty much. Gunther basically

01:22:16.729 --> 01:22:19.710
comes out, runs down Barcelona, runs down his

01:22:19.710 --> 01:22:26.310
WrestleMania opponent of Jey Uso. Yeet. And then,

01:22:26.489 --> 01:22:30.989
in an odd move, hypes up a... I honestly didn't

01:22:30.989 --> 01:22:34.810
realise that this guy was actually Spanish. I

01:22:34.810 --> 01:22:38.909
didn't either. I'm not going to lie to you. I

01:22:38.909 --> 01:22:41.210
didn't think he was Mexican, as a lot of people

01:22:41.210 --> 01:22:46.189
would assume, but I always assumed he was American.

01:22:46.850 --> 01:22:55.590
I will be honest. But yeah, I mean... So we've

01:22:55.590 --> 01:22:59.869
seen recently Gunther since J1 the Royal Rumble

01:22:59.869 --> 01:23:02.470
has been having some really obscure matches.

01:23:03.210 --> 01:23:07.010
We've seen him have matches with Akira Tozawa

01:23:07.010 --> 01:23:12.869
and Otis from Alpha Academy. Yep. Yep. I got

01:23:12.869 --> 01:23:19.810
it right for once. And then, yeah, which I'm

01:23:19.810 --> 01:23:22.109
not entirely sure. Those were more of the fact

01:23:22.109 --> 01:23:26.899
that Gunther doesn't like clowns and people clowning

01:23:26.899 --> 01:23:30.640
around because we saw those two plus Maxine Dupree

01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:34.300
a few weeks ago making a TikTok video backstage

01:23:34.300 --> 01:23:37.420
and that pissed Gunther off. That's why he had

01:23:37.420 --> 01:23:40.699
the match with Akira Tozawa. And then this week

01:23:40.699 --> 01:23:45.800
he calls out Axiom for a match from NXT. Yeah,

01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:53.929
so Axiom is a one half of the NXT tag team. title

01:23:53.929 --> 01:23:58.869
for Axiom with Nathan Fraser and yeah he uh before

01:23:58.869 --> 01:24:00.850
he was a professional wrestler did you know that

01:24:00.850 --> 01:24:05.050
Axiom played for Real Madrid? I didn't know that

01:24:05.050 --> 01:24:07.409
actually but again as I said I didn't even realise

01:24:07.409 --> 01:24:10.970
he was Spanish until he came out here yeah so

01:24:10.970 --> 01:24:14.569
Axiom played for Real when he was younger I don't

01:24:14.569 --> 01:24:18.729
actually know I can't tell you too much about

01:24:18.729 --> 01:24:20.750
his football career because I don't know who

01:24:20.750 --> 01:24:23.850
Axiom is to be able to go and do too much research

01:24:23.850 --> 01:24:26.510
and I don't really want to ruin the luchador

01:24:26.510 --> 01:24:31.649
thing by going off and telling you who he is

01:24:31.649 --> 01:24:34.390
and what he did but I don't believe he was the

01:24:34.390 --> 01:24:41.909
first team for Real. This one was actually like

01:24:42.090 --> 01:24:44.609
I went into this match when they first brought

01:24:44.609 --> 01:24:47.050
it out going great Gunther's gonna slap Axiom

01:24:47.050 --> 01:24:50.789
around for about five minutes and then You know,

01:24:50.789 --> 01:24:52.189
he'll throw him out and that would be the end

01:24:52.189 --> 01:24:55.510
of that That was not the way this match went

01:24:55.510 --> 01:25:01.449
down Axiom came in and put up a hell of a match

01:25:01.449 --> 01:25:03.810
And to be fair like I remember saying this as

01:25:03.810 --> 01:25:07.390
we were watching it Gunther wasn't gonna lose

01:25:07.390 --> 01:25:12.979
this match and he doesn't but Axiom Gave enough

01:25:12.979 --> 01:25:16.399
that he made his character stronger by taking

01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:20.600
the loss then he did by letting them squash him

01:25:20.600 --> 01:25:25.020
because Actually, he went and had a damn good

01:25:25.020 --> 01:25:27.840
match against a singles champion in the next

01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:31.100
division above I suppose And he still managed

01:25:31.100 --> 01:25:33.979
to put on a hell of a show and do really really

01:25:33.979 --> 01:25:43.579
well I mean The way to compare this I mean the

01:25:43.579 --> 01:25:47.439
way that squash matches used to be and I'm gonna

01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:51.140
Sort of use the divider of back in the Vince

01:25:51.140 --> 01:25:55.560
McMahon era Squash matches used to use local

01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:58.140
talent Nobody had ever heard of them probably

01:25:58.140 --> 01:26:00.640
one of their first ever top televised matches

01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:03.399
in front of a crowd that size Used to have the

01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:06.239
guy come out. It was literally a couple of the

01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:09.770
they used to get hit once Then probably have

01:26:09.770 --> 01:26:14.470
a finishing move done on them. The match was

01:26:14.470 --> 01:26:20.930
over in less than two minutes. And it was a really

01:26:20.930 --> 01:26:26.569
good way of building up the WWE talent they were

01:26:26.569 --> 01:26:29.189
trying to build up. And they didn't really lose

01:26:29.189 --> 01:26:31.829
anything because the local talent they were using

01:26:31.829 --> 01:26:36.670
were not WWE signed. They were sort of subcontracted

01:26:36.670 --> 01:26:40.810
in. It didn't affect their character build in

01:26:40.810 --> 01:26:44.609
their promotions, and they still got exposure.

01:27:07.839 --> 01:27:10.880
There's nothing anybody's gonna know from a promoter's

01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:13.939
point of view from that kind of a match We've

01:27:13.939 --> 01:27:17.939
then got The squash matches that we that the

01:27:17.939 --> 01:27:20.180
squash matches towards the end of the Vince McMahon

01:27:20.180 --> 01:27:24.939
era when he was using in -house talent to bolster

01:27:24.939 --> 01:27:28.319
other People and these were some big names that

01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:30.500
used to get used for these squash matches. I

01:27:30.500 --> 01:27:33.060
mean Dolph Ziggler was a famous one for having

01:27:33.579 --> 01:27:39.159
squash matches against other WWE talent. And

01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:42.920
it just used to completely destroy Dolph Ziggler's

01:27:42.920 --> 01:27:47.060
credibility. Which is why he's now gone over

01:27:47.060 --> 01:27:52.579
to, I want to say TNA. He's currently, I believe

01:27:52.579 --> 01:27:58.260
he was the TNA main title holder, but he lost

01:27:58.260 --> 01:28:03.720
his title to Joe Hendry. Well, he's currently

01:28:03.720 --> 01:28:07.340
wrestling with his brother so he's wrestling

01:28:07.340 --> 01:28:10.899
under the name of Nick Nemeth and with his brother

01:28:10.899 --> 01:28:18.439
Ryan Nemeth and Yeah, I mean doing really well

01:28:18.439 --> 01:28:21.760
over there Because he's been repackaged. He's

01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:24.439
not this Dolph Ziggler this complete pushover

01:28:24.439 --> 01:28:29.170
of a superstar anymore. It's It's a case that

01:28:29.170 --> 01:28:33.430
this is how it's done, whereas now that we're

01:28:33.430 --> 01:28:38.850
in the Paul Levesque Triple H era of his leadership

01:28:38.850 --> 01:28:42.289
and how he's producing the content, it is a case

01:28:42.289 --> 01:28:48.369
that even the squash matches are not as squashy

01:28:48.369 --> 01:28:55.489
as they used to be. It's a case now that the

01:28:55.489 --> 01:29:00.210
talent is protected by having a decent match

01:29:00.210 --> 01:29:05.310
instead of just wham bam thank you ma 'am nice

01:29:05.310 --> 01:29:09.590
easy payday sort of thing well yeah and um it

01:29:09.590 --> 01:29:13.750
was nice to have actually it was definitely this

01:29:13.750 --> 01:29:18.470
match was definitely a really really good quality

01:29:18.470 --> 01:29:21.250
match as well which is like you said not something

01:29:21.250 --> 01:29:23.470
you get from squash matches and this definitely

01:29:23.470 --> 01:29:27.270
was not something we We could class that as because

01:29:27.270 --> 01:29:33.390
Axiom was amazing. Missile drop kicks, he kicked

01:29:33.390 --> 01:29:37.289
out power bombs. He hit Hurricane Rana off the

01:29:37.289 --> 01:29:40.289
top rope and then a super kick for a two count.

01:29:40.649 --> 01:29:43.850
Gunther was not going to let him win, but Gunther

01:29:43.850 --> 01:29:46.590
took some damage, which is not something we're

01:29:46.590 --> 01:29:49.890
used to seeing Gunther take. He did take some

01:29:49.890 --> 01:29:52.989
against Otis, which really caught him off guard.

01:29:53.319 --> 01:29:56.260
But I think, you know, with Axiom being a tag

01:29:56.260 --> 01:29:58.800
champion, or a tag team title holder, sorry,

01:29:58.939 --> 01:30:02.640
he was going to get a bit more of a match. Well,

01:30:02.819 --> 01:30:05.279
I pointed out to you when we originally watched

01:30:05.279 --> 01:30:07.380
this back, when we were originally watching this

01:30:07.380 --> 01:30:10.899
live, that each week Gunther is having more and

01:30:10.899 --> 01:30:15.720
more issue with the opponents he's facing. Which

01:30:15.720 --> 01:30:19.000
we're led to believe that he's hand -selecting

01:30:19.000 --> 01:30:22.880
himself, so... he knows what he's getting himself

01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:26.960
in for but he's still continuing to have more

01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:31.079
and more issue as weeks go on now we're still

01:30:31.079 --> 01:30:34.520
a few weeks away from Wrestlemania we've still

01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:37.720
got a little bit away to go and before he faces

01:30:37.720 --> 01:30:41.399
Jey Uso on the grandest stage of them all are

01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:44.899
we gonna see a point where he doesn't necessarily

01:30:44.899 --> 01:30:48.529
have to lose but is he gonna come in one of these

01:30:48.529 --> 01:30:50.770
little exhibition matches that he seems to be

01:30:50.770 --> 01:30:54.869
putting on, are we going to see him come dangerously

01:30:54.869 --> 01:30:57.449
close? I mean that's definitely a very strong

01:30:57.449 --> 01:31:02.569
possibility. I think it's more than a strong

01:31:02.569 --> 01:31:06.770
possibility personally. I think we are definitely

01:31:06.770 --> 01:31:11.930
more likely to see that happen to him just because

01:31:11.930 --> 01:31:15.529
it's It seems to be the trend and I don't know

01:31:15.529 --> 01:31:19.810
if it's unintentional or what's going on but

01:31:19.810 --> 01:31:23.729
Yeah, I'm seeing Seeing some definitely seeing

01:31:23.729 --> 01:31:26.250
some cracks. I mean we've said from the get -go

01:31:26.250 --> 01:31:30.810
the minute that Jey Uso won at Royal Rumble Jey

01:31:30.810 --> 01:31:33.229
Uso is going on to win the title at WrestleMania

01:31:34.400 --> 01:31:37.180
hands down definitely happening yeah and I think

01:31:37.180 --> 01:31:38.819
what we're gonna do here is they're gonna put

01:31:38.819 --> 01:31:40.699
Gunther in some slightly longer matches make

01:31:40.699 --> 01:31:42.640
us see where his weak points are make him see

01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:46.119
where we struggle or have him lose possibly a

01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:49.159
week or two before WrestleMania in a squash match

01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:52.500
they'll have someone go in and roll him I don't

01:31:52.500 --> 01:31:54.140
know who it will be but I reckon I'll have a

01:31:54.140 --> 01:31:55.640
non -title match someone will roll him and it

01:31:55.640 --> 01:31:58.560
will knock his confidence and that will be what

01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:03.109
it will need for Jay to then to win especially

01:32:03.109 --> 01:32:05.470
if the person that knocks his confidence makes

01:32:05.470 --> 01:32:08.850
an appearance at WrestleMania while Jay and Gunther

01:32:08.850 --> 01:32:10.770
are having their match. Doesn't necessarily have

01:32:10.770 --> 01:32:13.569
to interfere but just enough for them to clock

01:32:13.569 --> 01:32:16.569
eyes and be like he kicked my ass. Shit. Long

01:32:16.569 --> 01:32:18.890
enough for Jay to whack a couple of super kicks

01:32:18.890 --> 01:32:23.489
and a spear in for the three count. Yeah, very

01:32:23.489 --> 01:32:30.390
much so. Gunther won this one locked in a sleeper

01:32:30.390 --> 01:32:33.489
hold on Axiom, but there was nobody there to

01:32:33.489 --> 01:32:37.229
sort of come and save Axiom this week. I was

01:32:37.229 --> 01:32:39.130
expecting Nathan Fraser to take a run out and

01:32:39.130 --> 01:32:41.670
give his teammate a hand, but no, he was not

01:32:41.670 --> 01:32:47.550
in the building. I see, I was expecting Jay Youssef

01:32:47.550 --> 01:32:51.090
to come. Yeah, no. One thing I was not expecting

01:32:51.090 --> 01:32:58.979
was an in -ring promo from Paul Heyman. So yeah,

01:32:59.060 --> 01:33:05.840
this was this followed a VT recap in raw from

01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:13.340
the steel cage match last week where gave Seth

01:33:13.340 --> 01:33:16.380
Rollins a bit of a hiding and then went and said

01:33:16.380 --> 01:33:20.500
hello to his friend CM Punk in the ring Yeah,

01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:24.520
I don't think anyone was expecting expecting

01:33:24.520 --> 01:33:27.909
that but again it is a case that we've got to

01:33:27.909 --> 01:33:40.890
remember that CM Punk was a Paul Heyman guy before

01:33:40.890 --> 01:33:44.569
a lot of other people were Paul Heyman guys sort

01:33:44.569 --> 01:33:53.010
of thing it's pretty much yeah but Paul's not

01:33:53.010 --> 01:33:57.659
here to talk about any of that He has declared

01:33:57.659 --> 01:34:02.779
this night Roman Reigns Day. Do we know why he's

01:34:02.779 --> 01:34:05.779
declared this specific day is Roman Reigns Day,

01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:12.359
Adam? Well, Roman Reigns is the cover of 2K25

01:34:12.359 --> 01:34:18.340
and this just happened when this goes out, when

01:34:18.340 --> 01:34:21.659
this episode aired, it just so happened to be

01:34:21.659 --> 01:34:29.020
the the official release day of 2k 25 so I mean

01:34:29.020 --> 01:34:31.859
a number of people myself included have had access

01:34:31.859 --> 01:34:33.859
to the game for a little bit well a little bit

01:34:33.859 --> 01:34:43.180
longer than others mostly because they well no

01:34:43.180 --> 01:34:48.569
it was anybody that pre -ordered I believe So

01:34:48.569 --> 01:34:50.130
as long as you've got your pre -order in you

01:34:50.130 --> 01:34:52.689
got up to seven days of early access But there

01:34:52.689 --> 01:34:56.350
were some bits that were still roped off and

01:34:56.350 --> 01:34:59.770
so this release date released access to things

01:34:59.770 --> 01:35:03.710
like the island and And other such other such

01:35:03.710 --> 01:35:07.869
bits of content like that. I believe Not 100

01:35:07.869 --> 01:35:16.670
% certain on that, but yes Rains day and it is

01:35:16.670 --> 01:35:20.869
not and ever and will never be Seth Rollins day

01:35:20.869 --> 01:35:24.670
And he goes on to say how much he hates that

01:35:24.670 --> 01:35:27.770
Seth Rollins intro entry song as the crowd starts

01:35:27.770 --> 01:35:31.069
singing it If anyone has a problem, they can

01:35:31.069 --> 01:35:34.369
take it up with Raymond Rains in Bologna Italy

01:35:34.369 --> 01:35:38.529
next week And we get a little little conversation

01:35:38.529 --> 01:35:41.189
from Wade Barrett. He's just throwing out there

01:35:41.439 --> 01:35:47.640
Heyman does still owe CM Punk a favor and then

01:35:47.640 --> 01:35:52.300
you know he goes on to say that in Bologna Italy

01:35:52.300 --> 01:35:54.340
we've got a few other matches that have already

01:35:54.340 --> 01:35:57.659
been lined up so we've got the Jade Cargill Liv

01:35:57.659 --> 01:36:00.420
Morgan match that we've spoken about earlier

01:36:00.420 --> 01:36:03.439
we have the Zalina Vega Piper Neven match which

01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:06.920
we've mentioned and of course we have our Braun

01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:10.880
Strowman versus Jacob Fatou match that we've

01:36:10.880 --> 01:36:18.760
already mentioned and we have our, we have DIY

01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:24.840
versus, no it's not DIY. Street Profits. No,

01:36:24.840 --> 01:36:28.699
DIY versus Street Profits is next. There was

01:36:28.699 --> 01:36:33.300
a combination of what happens with this match,

01:36:33.779 --> 01:36:40.060
foretells, what goes on with the Number one contendership

01:36:40.060 --> 01:36:44.779
and what goes on between DIY and Motor City machine

01:36:44.779 --> 01:36:51.380
guns So like I said our last match and the main

01:36:51.380 --> 01:36:55.960
event of this week's smackdown is Street Profits

01:36:55.960 --> 01:37:04.199
versus DIY for the tag team titles And before

01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:08.210
we get into the match we once again have a selection

01:37:08.210 --> 01:37:12.430
of interviews and VTs. The first one we have

01:37:12.430 --> 01:37:16.069
is a little backstage promo where Street Profits

01:37:16.069 --> 01:37:22.529
bump into Legado Del Fantasma. Yeah, on their

01:37:22.529 --> 01:37:25.270
way out to the ring who basically just wish them

01:37:25.270 --> 01:37:29.750
luck because they would prefer to take the tag

01:37:29.750 --> 01:37:33.810
team titles off Street Profits rather than DIY.

01:37:37.299 --> 01:37:41.680
Which I mean I'm not 100 % sure on that logic

01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:45.199
myself I'd probably rather face DIY because we

01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:47.000
know a little bit more about them than Street

01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:50.380
Profits who we've not seen for a little while

01:37:50.380 --> 01:37:57.619
and we then see a big our big man Ginny Uso sat

01:37:57.619 --> 01:38:01.869
backstage just sort of relaxing and Gunther comes

01:38:01.869 --> 01:38:03.890
and sits down next to him and says that they

01:38:03.890 --> 01:38:06.189
have some things in common asked if he watched

01:38:06.189 --> 01:38:14.449
his match and uh he added a few cheap shots in

01:38:14.449 --> 01:38:17.029
there about jay and how he choked him out like

01:38:17.029 --> 01:38:22.229
a wet paper towel last week and uh he says basically

01:38:22.229 --> 01:38:25.989
comes along to try and get jimmy to turn on jay

01:38:25.989 --> 01:38:28.890
out of the match yeah pretty much like don't

01:38:28.890 --> 01:38:32.550
let him don't let him do it he's gonna get absolutely

01:38:32.550 --> 01:38:35.250
beaten and broken and no one wants to see that

01:38:35.250 --> 01:38:41.529
happen and Big Jim pops off a little yeet and

01:38:41.529 --> 01:38:44.949
Gunther said he was sorry he was mistaken for

01:38:44.949 --> 01:38:49.770
what he said to Jimmy about Jay thinking that

01:38:49.770 --> 01:38:51.609
Jimmy might actually want to help his brother

01:38:51.609 --> 01:38:55.310
instead of watching him get destroyed anyway

01:38:55.310 --> 01:38:59.600
and then we jump back into our main event of

01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:03.640
the evening which is about to start and it's

01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:07.600
started by Angelo Hawkins and Tommaso Ciampa.

01:39:09.140 --> 01:39:12.920
Yeah and do you know I didn't get a fantastic

01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:17.720
amount of notes for this match. I got a few but

01:39:17.720 --> 01:39:19.779
I didn't get a huge amount purely for the fact

01:39:19.779 --> 01:39:23.220
that A the fan and me took over and decided yeah

01:39:23.220 --> 01:39:25.319
we'd come back and watch it a later date and

01:39:25.319 --> 01:39:27.819
time is not allowed me to have that second watch

01:39:27.819 --> 01:39:34.659
through. I did make note of a few different spots.

01:39:34.800 --> 01:39:38.340
There was an assisted moonsault by the Street

01:39:38.340 --> 01:39:42.939
Profits and Tomasa Ciampa kicked out as Dawkins

01:39:42.939 --> 01:39:46.539
hits Gargano on the outside at the same time.

01:39:47.960 --> 01:39:51.260
Tomasa Ciampa hits a rather nice running knee

01:39:51.260 --> 01:39:53.779
on Montez Ford to throw him out of the ring at

01:39:53.779 --> 01:40:00.739
one point. There was a 450 frog attempt for a

01:40:00.739 --> 01:40:05.380
two count after it was reversed but again like

01:40:05.380 --> 01:40:11.180
a lot of my notes are a little bit a little bit

01:40:11.180 --> 01:40:14.159
iffy on this one. Got a little bit of trivia

01:40:14.159 --> 01:40:16.460
for you Adam. Do you know who the first person

01:40:16.460 --> 01:40:21.899
to attempt a 450 frog splash was? yes and the

01:40:21.899 --> 01:40:24.479
reason I know this is because both a both me

01:40:24.479 --> 01:40:27.840
and you have seen the same video and B I was

01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:32.500
the one that told you probably so the answer

01:40:32.500 --> 01:40:36.220
to your question is Scott Steiner it's not something

01:40:36.220 --> 01:40:39.380
you expect to see from a guy that well built

01:40:39.380 --> 01:40:44.680
but yeah no so back in the 70s or 80s I believe

01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:50.159
you said it was he actually did a He did a 450

01:40:50.159 --> 01:40:53.880
splash off the top rope the only difference is

01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:56.699
is that he lands on his feet before hitting his

01:40:56.699 --> 01:40:59.819
opponent and it was his way of basically protecting

01:40:59.819 --> 01:41:02.800
his opponent as we've said on the podcast before

01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:06.640
an Incredibly important skill for a professional

01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:09.479
wrestler. It isn't just about kicking their ass

01:41:16.219 --> 01:41:19.100
side points from this match that I think deserves

01:41:19.100 --> 01:41:25.039
a mention is a At some point towards the end

01:41:25.039 --> 01:41:30.319
of the match We see a pretty big fuck -up from

01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:34.960
Johnny Gargano and he ends up super kicking Tommaso

01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:38.460
Ciampa, which is his teammate right in the chops

01:41:38.460 --> 01:41:41.399
Yes, and this isn't the first time we've seen

01:41:41.399 --> 01:41:46.100
this happen either. No, it's not No, it's not.

01:41:46.420 --> 01:41:48.739
I've seen a fair few faulty super kicks between

01:41:48.739 --> 01:41:51.159
the two of them over the last couple of months.

01:41:52.260 --> 01:41:56.260
Yeah, very much so. And this is where we've seen

01:41:56.260 --> 01:41:59.840
sort of the cracks start to appear as we have

01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:03.239
a tendency to see happen. And we've mentioned

01:42:03.239 --> 01:42:05.819
that we've seen these cracks happening recently

01:42:05.819 --> 01:42:15.600
as well, so we definitely know kind of... How

01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:18.460
where this is going? Yeah, this is going to split

01:42:18.460 --> 01:42:22.720
up DIY and it's going to send Johnny Gargano

01:42:22.720 --> 01:42:28.439
and Tommaso Ciampa onto singles runs again. Possibly

01:42:28.439 --> 01:42:32.399
against one another, I would imagine, but to

01:42:32.399 --> 01:42:34.680
start that process off, they would first need

01:42:34.680 --> 01:42:42.760
to drop those. Heskey tag titles, which unfortunately

01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:48.380
for DIY happens. on this very evening as Street

01:42:48.380 --> 01:42:52.460
Profits take the victory and become new Smackdown

01:42:52.460 --> 01:42:58.319
tag team champions. Yep, they certainly do. It

01:42:58.319 --> 01:43:02.020
means that the first step in the downfall of

01:43:02.020 --> 01:43:08.220
DIY is done and we get a new tag run with Street

01:43:08.220 --> 01:43:10.640
Profits which I hope are going to end up giving

01:43:10.640 --> 01:43:18.130
us some... incredible incredible matches With

01:43:18.130 --> 01:43:23.050
those titles around their shoulders Well feasibly

01:43:23.050 --> 01:43:25.789
their first opponents are going to be the current

01:43:25.789 --> 01:43:30.489
number one contenders pretty deadly and who knows

01:43:30.489 --> 01:43:34.510
when we might see that that could be a Smackdown

01:43:34.510 --> 01:43:37.390
before WrestleMania job, who knows? I mean it

01:43:37.390 --> 01:43:39.029
definitely could be it could definitely be a

01:43:39.029 --> 01:43:43.670
smackdown after WrestleMania job, too so Yeah,

01:43:43.729 --> 01:43:45.829
that's going to be interesting to see what's

01:43:45.829 --> 01:43:49.050
kind of going off with this one. Yeah, very much

01:43:49.050 --> 01:43:52.449
so. But that takes me to the end of my notes

01:43:52.449 --> 01:43:56.510
for this this week's Smackdown. Mine are pretty

01:43:56.510 --> 01:44:01.510
much done as well. I will not lie to you. So

01:44:01.510 --> 01:44:04.010
I think at this stage, it's important that we

01:44:04.010 --> 01:44:08.310
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01:44:33.390 --> 01:44:36.369
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01:45:08.439 --> 01:45:12.899
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