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Welcome to the ring, it's rich and atom.

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Breaking down the fights with flair and passion.

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Tag teams grappling, belts are clashing.

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Finishes and factions catching action.

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Hi, I'm rich and hey, I'm Adam.

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Welcome to this week's episode of

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Finishers and Factions Smackdown Edition, available on all your favourite podcast platforms as inaudible.

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Or here on YouTube where you get to hang out with us as well.

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So without further ado, let's crack in the Smackdown.

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We have a Smackdown show to talk about.

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We certainly do. Smackdown from San Diego, California and the Pachenga Arena.

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What's the name for an arena?

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What's the name of the San Diego Sports Arena?

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Which is a little easier to say.

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It certainly is, it certainly is.

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It is a strange name but we'll get used to it eventually.

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I'm not sure as there are several more shows going to be guessing in that arena at some point.

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San Diego is quite a populous foot-dop for a WWE.

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Yeah, but this week's Smackdown started in a bit of an unconventional way.

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So we started with an introductory promo where our commentary team Wade Barrett and Joe Tessatori started backstage.

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They started out in one of the runways and made their way out into the arena.

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I've been quite a little different though. It was a nice start to it.

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It's not something you see very often.

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Well, it made me laugh about the fact that they were talking so much about the tradition that's associated with the Pachenga Arena.

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I did so doing it with a break from WWE tradition where the show would normally open if they were going to open with the commentary team.

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It's the commentary team sat at the commentary desk.

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So I did like the contrast with that one but we're not going to focus too much on the very opening segment of it.

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Because realistically all they were doing was hyping the tiffy, bailey singles match that's due to be our main event.

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So they brought out the hometown hero early on this one.

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At first proper promo was Rey Mysterio.

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Yeah, certainly was.

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Coming out as our hometown hero.

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On his home show as well.

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100%.

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I mean, one of his first big announcements was his entry into the Royal Rumble this year wanting to recapture the magic of 2006.

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Yeah, no, and obviously when he won in 2006 he went on to win the World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania 22 as well.

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So that was a nice little jump start for him on that one.

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And as with everything that Rey Mysterio does it's all a tribute to the Latina heat himself, Eddie Guerrero.

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It wasn't the only tribute but we'll get into that later on in the show I suppose.

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Yeah, because unfortunately Rey Mysterio's hometown celebration didn't last long because Kevin Owens decided to come out and get involved.

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As he had attended the moment.

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Seeing too much KO at the moment.

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He's getting a bit overexposed a little bit like our good old Scottish friend Drew McIntyre on Monday Night Raw.

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And our favourite general manager on NXT, Ava.

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Well, in fairness NXT didn't do too badly with that this week.

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They toned it back a little bit.

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No, they did.

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KO got booed hard when he came out and not quite as bad as Hogan, but it wasn't far short of it.

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He did get pretty hard.

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Oh, 100%. The crowd did not appreciate him coming out and interrupting Rey on his hometown show.

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He started off as being quite respectful towards Rey in my view.

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It was a lot of apologies for interrupting.

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How much he respects him, how he's won.

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After he'd finished kissing Rey's ass, so to speak, he goes back to his normal narcissistic ways and starts telling us about how many titles he's won, what he's won.

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And now he's got the Wind Eagle belt that he got to see his idols holding, including the great Rey Mysterio stood in the ring with him.

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Yeah, and Rey Mysterio had to be the one to tell him that, dude, you're not the WWE champion as much as you walk around with that strap.

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It's just doesn't, it's not the way it works.

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For something that was supposed to be a one night only thing he's been hanging on, he's been nursing that thing worse than an old guy in a beer and a pub.

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He's been hanging on to that.

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Well, if I remember correctly, he's had it since about the 6th of December, considering it was only supposed to be a one night thing.

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14th December, yeah.

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So yeah, he's had it over a month now as we're recording this on the 19th of January.

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So yeah, month and five days he's had his hands on that something he was supposed to have only had, you know, in the or Cody was supposed to have had it for one night only, just to let him hang on to it.

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I suppose it's a nostalgia thing.

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Yeah, definitely watching that winged eagle title, doing the hell to some greats and passed along to some even greater wrestlers over the years.

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So yeah, but as much as I'm sure KO will end up being a.

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Hall of Famer at some stage is he's not there yet.

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And he's he tries going toe to toe with a bona fide Hall of Famer in Rey Mysterio after he gets compared to raise some dirty Dom.

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I thought that was brilliant.

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Oh, reminding me of Dominic right now.

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Yeah, and that's when KO just completely loses it and tries his luck on with Rey Mysterio was more than up to the challenge at the time he wasn't having any of it.

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Being people far greater than Kevin Owens in his sleep.

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So Kevin Owens is really good.

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A challenge.

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Kevin Owens has got to work with some absolute legends over the years realistic.

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I mean, Rey Mysterio this week, he got to work with Stone Cold in a match.

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I believe a match at WrestleMania, if I believe, if I remember correctly.

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And yeah, so fantastic.

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But we'll have plenty of time to talk about KO later on.

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That's cold match was it WrestleMania 38, which you can find on the Netflix underneath the PLE.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Go and check out all of the old PLE's that are in there.

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They've got a lot of the Royal Rumbles, I believe.

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And 25 years worth of raw and SmackDown 10 years worth of NXT.

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You have every WrestleMania from WrestleMania one and pretty much every pay-per-view they've done except sort of like the WCW stuff.

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So you've got a lot of professional wrestling to watch on Netflix for cheaper than what the WWE Network ever was.

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Yeah, depending on your subscription tier, but we're not here to promote Netflix.

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We have other promotions to do.

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If Netflix want to sponsor the show, however, then we'll plug it all they fucking love.

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If you can pay for us to go to WrestleMania, I'll be happy with that.

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Oh, 100% backstage interviews the lot.

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I'd love it.

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Absolutely love talking about backstage interviews, though, after obviously Kevin Owens and Rey Mysterio have had the little bit of a swing and run and was it a swing and a mish?

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We got to have a backstage promo with Bianca Belair and Naomi.

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Yeah, so this was a run up to our match one contest this evening, but this was sort of recapping what had happened last week in a match featuring those two.

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And well, it was the fatal fall way that seemed to land a bit flat with us last week.

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My favorite part of that promo, I will admit, was Naomi telling Bianca to wrap that hair up, because that was not happening again.

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Oh, I mean, don't get me wrong.

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It didn't even happen.

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It came close a couple of times, but this comes back to what I've said for ages is that how is Bianca Belair's hair not an illegal weapon?

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I mean, it gets used against her. So surely she should be able to use it in some regards.

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But yeah, I mean, I wouldn't want to be hit by that.

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That would fucking hurt.

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She could probably hide some some weapons in there too, like a shillay or something of some kind, like a little metal bar.

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She can hide.

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Yeah, that would hurt.

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But I think we started to see some small cracks showing that might be signaling in a title change soon during that promo.

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But that promo fed directly into the first match, which was the women's tag team championship match between Nia Jackson and Isla Ray and Bianca.

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And Bianca.

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And Bianca.

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Naomi, sorry.

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So yeah, and it was, I mean, Nia Jack started this match the same way that she was always going to start this match realistically.

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It's straight up.

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Yeah, immediate cheap shot to Naomi.

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Took her out of the ring to be fair. So it's quite quite nasty cheap shot.

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I mean, ultimately during this match, Naomi was a bit of a no show. I will be honest.

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I think it's more of a Bianca Bella versus sort of Nia Jackson kind of this Lorraine for most of it.

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She held her own pretty well.

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I mean, it just Bianca Bella's athleticism and their pure strength as a as a fee as just a talent.

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Let's take away the fact that she's female.

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It's it just takes.

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He doesn't look much, but she can she can go and she's got some strength to say you look at necessarily put her down as a particularly strong person.

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Very athletic and gymnastic, maybe, but she definitely holds both angles.

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Oh, definitely, definitely.

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But quite a few spots in this match.

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It just but yeah, the thing that took me out of it was that just Naomi just didn't she she didn't seem to get much of an opportunity to participate.

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And even when she did, it wasn't that big of an impact.

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I don't know if she's sporting an injury that we're not being made aware of.

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I'm not going to lie. Yeah, no, it was you didn't really see much of a when she did kind of get back into the ring.

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What you said she's very lackluster, very possibly overworked, possibly tired, sporting an injury.

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Like you said, Bianca took an absolute beating in this match and fairness.

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I mean, at one stage you got Candice Lorraine leg dropping Bianca's elbow.

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I mean, the elbow is not a particularly strong joint as it is.

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That was some professional grade accuracy getting that sorted.

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But the big turning point in this match realistically in the beginning of the end was an accidental leg drop that Nia Jax pulled on.

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Well, tried to try to hit Bianca and hit Candice.

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I mean, Nia Jax leg dropping anybody's going to fricking hurt.

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But yeah, not doing it and not being ready for it. That must have that must have stung.

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But yeah, basically Lorraine was out after that and Naomi took full advantage picking up a win with a pinfall for the tag champions to retain.

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The tag champions do not have any time to relax at all because they are announced in a, I think they're announcing another championship.

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They're going to NXT at Lanter to face Lash Legend and Jakaric Jackson.

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It didn't count if it was a championship match.

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I'm not sure because I didn't make a note of whether it was. I've got a feeling it is, but I'm not sure.

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But yeah, so Naomi and Bianca have not got a lot of time to relax at all.

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They're back in action next week on Tuesday.

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A lot of travelling being done by these superstars and to make appearances elsewhere.

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How long is it going to take before that starts having an adverse effect?

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Well, this is something that we're likely to talk about a little bit later on.

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I think it's a definite to be fair. But yeah, just in general, a lot of these superstars are flying around and doing some air miles and making some appearances.

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Don't get me wrong, they're working hard and they're definitely earning their paychecks.

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But Jesus, like I said, it will take a toll eventually.

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But think about it. I mean, even back in the day, back in Attitude Era, Golden Era, the wrestlers were on the road 300 plus days a year.

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They didn't really get to go home. So this is them just this is this is par for the course at this point.

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Not very often movies days that you see them swap sort of programs so freely.

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It's kind of like a lot of them on free agent contracts at the moment and they're just trying to drum up.

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Sort of storylines and action wherever they can.

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But it's nice to see we're seeing some matches we wouldn't necessarily think we would have seen in the process.

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So I'll put it down. Yeah, 100%.

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One thing I could put down though, and I'm not going to lie to you is this this next VT.

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I didn't see I'm not 100% sure that this match needed to the VT for this match needed to really be as bulky as it was.

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I'm struggling with a lot of the way the way they put it together feels a bit strange sometimes.

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But yeah, the VT about Jimmy Uso and come out of haze the match itself.

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I'm not excited for it.

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It's yeah, I don't think that segment particularly needs to be in there with what there is.

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I mean, Jimmy Uso isn't the over brother at the moment, but but yeah, sort of.

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Yeah, I'm surprised you've still got shoulders left to be able to do that.

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No, it's a bit sour still.

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And if you want to find out what it is that we're talking about, you can go and visit Rich's TikTok and see my

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TikTok lives on Monday to Friday, 10 till three and work out why my shoulders are so sore.

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With the VT, they know we need to be get to hear a little bit about the upcoming match between Jimmy Uso and Carmella Hayes.

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We also kind of featured again, you know, the fact that we were going to get Ray Mysterio versus Kevin Owens later on in the evening.

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We had a another little video promo about the next major pay-per-view that's popping up after the Royal Rebels.

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I'm going to hit pause on you right there because I think you've skirted over something far too important.

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There is a backstage promo that fell just after match one, I believe, or it may have been just during.

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I'm not entirely sure where it fell. But this was started off with Nick Aldous,

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SmackDown general manager and Rey Mysterio talking about Kevin Owens attack before

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the women's tag team championship match. This was where Kevin Owens versus Rey Mysterio was

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announced. We also found out that Cody has been cleared for competition. And also we were teased

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with a mystery addendum, although admittedly during the later on in the in the episode it becomes a

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little bit more clear as to what this addendum that until the end of the episode that it was made

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pretty clear though it was basically just you know I want to add something into your contract

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sign it and yeah no I forgot to write this bit down this was actually a fairly interesting

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segment to be fair because the way Cody Rhodes looked at Nick Aldous was like yeah yeah pretty

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much pretty much but yeah um after that yeah you're quite right we started talking about

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we started hearing about elimination chamber well on the road to WrestleMania by this point

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um in Toronto Canada on March 1st and the reason this is so big is because it is John Cena's

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last elimination chamber and his last time as a performer in Toronto Canada so uh was an in ring

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performer I think we're gonna hear this a lot now and it's uh we're gonna keep coming back to

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John Cena's farewell tour and things like that so as long as they don't pull as long as they don't

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go to that well a little bit too often then yeah we're we're in a good place but I think we'll see

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it with most major PLEs and PPVs um yeah yeah especially with the you know the last rumble

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the last WrestleMania the last elimination chamber there'll be something big for the last summer slam

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they're always you know it's one of those I suppose well we're here a few times but not over the top

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over the top well that's the that's sort of the hope at this point but uh moving swiftly on uh we um

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we were treated to a pre-recorded VT interview uh during this next segment of Smackdown with

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Bayley and Byron Saxton basically teasing the uh the women's championship match at the end which

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is our main event uh recap on Bayley's year she had a brilliant start to the last 12 months but uh it

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seems to have taken a bit of a sour end what's that she was winning the title at the end of it

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didn't she to Nia and she but she had a great title run with it well she won the title at

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last year's WrestleMania ended up dropping the um the title six months later to Nia Jax because

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of some direct interference by Tiffany Stratton which started feeding into all of this um

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next up was a locker room promo uh Mishin versus BFAB who has been working a lot as the manager for

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the street profits who are out on injury at the moment yeah um but they were discussing all things

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us at women's us championship which means that they were discussing like the nevin and chelsea green

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now something slightly only slightly on topic for this i saw an interview um this week where

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Matt Cordana uh more affectionately known to us as Zach Ryder and Long Island iced z

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yeah saying that he would actually love to make it back to wwe because he's seen how well is um

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his other half chelsea green's been doing over in the promotion and um but he's he'll only ever come

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back on his own terms and it means that we won't see the return of the Long Island I see we've uh

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we'll get Matt Cordana we won't get Zach Ryder no which isn't necessarily a bad thing Zach Ryder

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was a goofball gimmick and it was never really taken seriously as much as I love the gimmick and

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I love Zach Ryder and he got a title run out of it in the end sort of thrown to him at a pity which

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I think probably lasted about two or three weeks if it lasted that top amount of time at all but

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it all left to a very bitter Matt Cordana leaving wwe uh way back when um but yeah we had Piper Niven

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come in introducing Chelsea Green as a precursor basically uh led up to a uh yeah shit got chatted

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in the in the locker room um and when people start chatting shit that's normally when matches occur

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on this occasion we ended up with uh Piper Niven versus BFAB later in the night so uh

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interesting interesting pairing wasn't the pair and I think anybody was expecting but no not

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so they were overdoing that both superstars were overdoing out in yeah so Nevin's not had one for

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a while and obviously BFAB's not really had much of a solo run recently like I said she's been working

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as the manager for Street Profits so going into that there's both going to have a little bit of

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ring rust but it'd be nice to see him get it off and get it on I suppose yeah 100% um but

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before we get there we've got a men's singles we alluded to this earlier on uh Jimmy Uso versus uh

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Mello Don't Miss Carmelo Hayes um Mello Don't Miss but you don't really make a connection either

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no and this was pointed out by the commentary team as well I think Wade Barrett took a lot of pride

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in um in pointing out the fact that Carmelo's had more misses than hits recently and uh don't get

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me wrong I'm not mad at this match um considering I've said that Jimmy Uso is not the most over

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of the two brothers it doesn't in any way disparage from his capability of being of being an absolute

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demon in the ring I mean he is a veteran of his but he was told he was living in the shadow of

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his brother who is living in the shadow of the tribal chief Roman Reigns so that's got to be a

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real big mind you know a mental kick in the Cajones I mean they trotted out quite a lot of stats

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regarding Jimmy Uso I mean this is his first proper singles match since October 2024 this was his

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first match without being involved with no involvement from the bloodline since 2022 I think they said

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sometime there um and do you know what I don't think he missed a step which is he's not having

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in ring competition he's he did really well um there were some fantastic spots during the uh

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during the match itself Uso remained mainly in controlling that double clothesline that led

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to the uh you know the the double two counter whatever it was oh the double pin there yeah that

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was beautiful oh such a fantastic way yeah brilliant loved it uh huge suit you don't see

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very often either yeah it's nice to see old school movies being bought back or things that

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aren't get used very often get shown occasionally but if we're talking about spots in this match

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that pop-up Samoan drop the height he got on that pop-up Samoan drop was um was yeah it was good

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that is not my spot of the night though we'll talk about that a little bit later my spot of the

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night okay that was definitely uh really it was it was one of those that I enjoyed watching that

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like Jimmy Uso kind of throw some some decent moves he's a strong lad as well so yeah you know

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but yeah that that pop-up Samoan drop was beautiful I actually made note of that myself

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this match didn't finish the way I thought it would though this is not very often we end a match

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with a no contest ruling um I actually put this down before I realized they'd marked it as no

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contest but um it was all down to that it was a dq finish I had assumed they would put it down as a

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dq finish on this one but all of this came about because Jacob Fatou um was uh appearing out of

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nowhere at the corner of the ring where the wearing god's name did that man come from

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god that for a guy that big he can pop up out of nowhere it is I mean RKOs have been known

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to pop up with more precursor than that right yeah no he popped up out of nowhere and then

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you see Tamatonga as you know as well he just kind of like well as it as it stands at the minute

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then Perra joined at the hip you see Fatou first and you've got to be on the you've got to have

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your head on a swivel for Tamago um but this was oh 100% I mean yeah uh but we also saw somebody else

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Bloodline related during during this this was actually a really nice blend into from a match

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into a promo although the promo I'm not a huge fan of it it I think it speaks to his story a little

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bit but I wasn't a huge fan of it um I actually quite enjoyed this next section to be fair

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after this was the in-ring promo this was the in-ring promo uh with the return of the

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former tribal chief solo Sikota and yet more booze so many booze this evening

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are so much I mean even to a point that Jacob Fatou had to try and cut a promo which was damn

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near unintelligible I couldn't make out half a while that guy was saying I I'm glad I had

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subtitles on you know I've got past the age of 30 you know I I need glasses and subtitles for some

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of these programs and uh yeah thank god for subtitles because I couldn't understand what

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he was saying it from what I kind of the bits I picked up on it is you know he was fed up with

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being disrespected you know solo needed more respect and either they were gonna leave the

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same way the charges left this dusty ass city which I thought was brilliant as an NFL fan myself I

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thought that was funny the um see I I remember hearing that bit and um because of some of it I

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did catch some of it I just could not I could not sort of make out at all but I knew the charges

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referenced had land solid with you because of because you've got more of her so the uh the

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charges used to play in San Diego and then they were I mean they re-franchised where they decided

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to move um and went into Los Angeles up to yeah up to mental LA instead so uh yeah that was the

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reference pretty much we're just gonna we're gonna come in here and disappear to LA yeah I mean I'm

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taking that as a I'm gonna take the segue into that and make our way back into this in-ring promo

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because you mentioned LA we've got to mention LA night LA night coming out really taking it to

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the two of them. The cony's on that man right going after them parents out in Tamatonga and

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Jacob Fatou on their own and just lays it down and a fucking good effort. I'll tell you too.

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I'll tell you who does it it's LA night. Yeah. So yeah LA night came I hope tried to take it

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to Tamatonga and made some good headway against Tonga and Fatou but ultimately they started getting

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the numbers advantage of him but Timon won't be down started. But we got another return.

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We did and this was not one that I was expecting at. No this one this one got me a bit high but

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we'll be honest as much as I downrated this promo it was more solo Sakao's influence on this promo

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that I wasn't really rating but the return of the monster among men. The one strawman.

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Just try to scroll back through my notes to find this particular section and then realize that

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we're actually talking about your messenger and I didn't make any notes on it.

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Yeah I love seeing Braun Strowman run back into the ring and considering Tamatonga and

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Jimmy Fatou did a number on him a month ago. Yeah it was nice to see him come running. It makes me

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now think if he's come running out he's now being cleared to wrestle so I hope we see him in

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two weeks time I'm not gonna lie. Yeah I mean I think we'll see him. I think we've

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we may even see him before that but we may come to that a little bit later on in the

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show but we went from there to a backstage promo with Legada de Fantasma or Los Garza as

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the tag team are more eloquently known. Just kind of going through for the number one contenders

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match against machine was it Motor City Machine Guns for the tag team? Yeah so this was the next

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match as well so going from there they were hoping that the next matchup which was a men's

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tag team match for a future number one contenders contendership for the the WWE tag team championship

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which is currently being held by DIY Tomasso Ciampa and Gianni Gargano and yeah I mean high

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speed high impact just what I'd expect from a machine gun Motor City Machine Guns match.

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Los Garza I'm not mad at him I'm trying to hate the duo because of a love that I've got for

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Motor City Machine Guns but the guys can work and again there were some fantastic spots I mean

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double figure four leg locks for Motor City Machine Guns for the center of the ring. I was gonna bring

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that up myself the I can't remember off the top of my head which member of Los Garza it was

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but when they put him up in a ring and just left he basically just looked like he'd broken

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every bone in his body the way he sat there with his arms and his legs twisted around the corner

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post really really well done really well solved but yeah no ha it was brilliant brilliant and

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then obviously after that double figure four in the center of the ring you moved on to the

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uh Machine City the Motor City Machine Guns got caught out on a cross body um this was my

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spot of the night so you've got a member of uh of Los Garza holding a member of Motor City

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Machine Guns the other guy gets stuck so he's sat on top of him as though he's in a power bomb

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position and then the second Los Garza guy does a step up in Suguri off the second rope and just

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kicks him square in the teeth and it was just like yeah I couldn't I I love a step up in Suguri

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when you see like when it's when it's done properly it is just one of the best moves that they can

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pull out um and that I think was pretty much perfected um one the finishing move I've actually

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starting to get really into it for Motor City Machine Guns this scullum bones is quite a cool

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little finishing move reminds me a bit like a 3D but you're starting to see what I've seen for a

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long time because I followed them before they got to WWE they were in TNA yeah they they've

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yeah pretty I think the commentary team summed it up any promotion that the Motor City Machine

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Guns have had they've worn gold in it's including WWE I mean they've had a run with tag titles it

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wasn't a particularly long run but it was a run and they they're gearing up they're gearing up for

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another one that moving forward and uh which I'm looking forward to especially now WWE this week

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signed that deal with TNA could we see yeah um machine guns go back to TNA with the WWE tag

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titles and defend them in TNA now that could be the pop that would happen in the impact zone if

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that went off would be incredible so an interesting idea that I saw from I actually saw on social media

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is the possibility of being able to at Survivor Series have a Survivor Series match with Team

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WWE and Team TNA ah you know if that was to happen one name would be getting said and you only if you

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believe only if you believe does that man appear and you have to say his name this man is Joe

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Henry you're gonna get in the chops if we carry on like so uh let's carry on let's get smacked in

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the chops though someone else gets smacked in the chops tonight well actually quite a few people

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get smacked in the chops tonight and I love it yeah but tying up match three um we had an

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interference from Pretty Deadly um who honestly I think they missed their mark I work I'm not sure

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this match ended the way they anticipate anticipated it to end lost Garza were pissed because Motor

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City machine guns picked up the victory with a skull and crossbones to end the match it was

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yeah just so they tried to set it up and then Pretty Deadly came in they dealt with Pretty Deadly

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pretty fucking quickly set it up straight into the three count it was it was nice um which then

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led backstage again another Kevin Owens promo we've said it before um and I'll say it again I am

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getting sick of Kevin Owens but that just means he's doing his job as a heel properly 100 so I

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can't be mad at him he's doing it well but yeah he's being shoved down my throat quite a bit at

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the moment and as much as I used to enjoy watching Kevin Owens at the moment it's making me go oh

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ready I can't wait for Royal Runway we had to know this was coming though this was the thing is that

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during the promo earlier on with Nick Aldous and Cody Rhodes uh Nick Aldous was talking about this

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mystery addendum Cody Rhodes basically said I ain't signing this shit until until Kevin's

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Kevin Owens uh ink signatures on this piece of paper basically the same story from Kevin Owens

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yeah same in reverse Cody hasn't signed it off you fuck I'll do it with you but that's

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Kevin Owens down to the tee school yard bullshit right yeah it doesn't matter so um and and the

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funny thing about this is Aldous if you notice he grabbed Cody just out literally just as he was

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putting his shirt back on walking out of the doctor's room right really inconvenient time to do it

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he's then grabbed Kevin Owens literally as the guy is wrapping his wrists ready to go out um then

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you know prepare and to go in and face Raymond Stereo so yeah Nick Aldous is being a bit of a

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dick here trying to get him to do it at the wrong time but I mean I would make an argument for this

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because the next match we have that comes out is um a women's single match which is Piper Niven

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uh versus B fab and he said he had time he had time um but yeah this match uh Piper Niven versus

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B fab it wasn't a bad match it just wasn't my favorite match um I mean Piper Niven ends up

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walking away with the win and there were some fantastic moments in it especially uh I think uh

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B fab ended up hitting Chelsea Greener on the outside with a flying clothesline that was

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yes she did beautiful it was beautiful but that was her downfall I think she'd have had that much

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in the bag if she'd have ignored the fact that Chelsea Green was there but me and you have

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watched enough professional wrestling uh to know that if somebody's coming out with your opponent

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you can't afford to ignore them as much as the common sense says to focus on the opponent in the ring

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you can't really discount the the opponent on the outside of the ring either you can't but I'd

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rather take the loss as a d cube someone interfered than take the loss because I got screwed or I did

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something stupid this is because me and you were sitting in we're sitting in computer chairs um

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we're sitting in computer chairs in our own homes having never wrestled a match in our life officially

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um and uh you're gonna sit there and tell me that at some point in your childhood you have not dropped

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a people's elbow on somebody or anything like that my favorite was trying to like as a as a young

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child in a like late sort of middle school I don't know like so as you go into the secondary school

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period I remember trying to pedigree a friend of mine through a school table and it did not work too

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well so yeah we've definitely tried something but under no way am I a trained professional

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and no never mind pedigree ended up with that poor lad having a massive lump on his forehead for

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about four days yeah I didn't realize at the time the tables were rigged to fall apart on the tv but

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the metal one that I'd spent all day doing my schoolwork on wasn't rigged to fall apart was it

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was this at the point where like myself you thought wrestling was everything in wrestling was genuine

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the pain the pain in the fighting is real the outcomes of rigged yeah that's all we've got to say

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I didn't realize that as a nine year old yeah no me neither but yeah back to the end of this

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match we had green and niven uh poil and attack beef up at the end of the match we sort of knew

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this was coming the one thing we didn't see coming I don't think was uh meshin coming in with a

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endo stick and just laying the I am going to stop you there purely because I think you've missed out

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one of the like the finish for this match yes we know who won but the fact that you can get

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hit by that senton with a pop-up pile driver the fact that piper nevin has got the ability to hit

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a senton like that is quite unremarkable anyway you normally see some of the bigger girls don't

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necessarily go for the high-risk moves but the fact that she wanted to have a crack and pulled it off

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really really well and then yeah that that pop-up pile driver was beautiful fair play not very often

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you'll catch me out missing details like that it's not very often you'll find me enjoying women's

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wrestling but for some reason that match actually caught my attention I know we've had a lot of it

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kind of thrown out so the last sort of fortnight with sort of NXT and raw there's been a lot of

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female matches and it's starting to grow on me a little bit but no that one was at the

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ending of that one was actually quite good it was the best part of that match yeah I mean the girls

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are coming to play and they've been that they are it's been a long time coming yeah um this is the

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point in Smackdown where we took a bit more of a somber turn yeah wwe announced the passing of a

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Hall of Famer on the 16th of January the world lost lost yeah damn lost mr baseball himself

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who made two WrestleMania appearances and was inducted into the Hall of Fame so he announced

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WrestleMania 3 and he is the poor gentleman that got grabbed hold of by Andre the Giant in WrestleMania

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4 basically you know when Andre the Giant did his Homer Simpson moment where he grabbed the poor lad

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and shook him that was Bobby Ucker yeah it certainly was but that's but Bobby Ucker was more known for

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his sports commentary around baseball not really something we get over here but it is a massive

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thing in America America's I believe it's known as America's national pastime something along

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that lot something along those lines I know you wouldn't agree no no no I'm not necessarily the

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biggest fan of baseball but I can appreciate why people do watch here I just as a personally it

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just wouldn't for being a baseball fan wouldn't fit in with my sports criteria because as much as I'd

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love to spend nine hours out on the sofa watching grown men smash a ball with a stick I don't quite

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have that length of free time well the Americans have got it's the American version of cricket

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essentially it's it falls into the same category in the sense that it's the games go on pretty much

402
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all day the crowd is mostly blankered for it pretty much all the way through yeah a day at the cricket

403
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it's basically just a day of drinking and telling your wife you're watching cricket yeah pretty much

404
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I haven't seen the stump styling but I've started to realize these taps on the bar look very similar

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and if I put my phone on the top you can knock the bales off oh dear um anyway we're not going to

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spend too long talking about cricket and baseball um we are going to which is good because I am

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um I was really looking forward to this match once it was a match announced that we were getting this

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it was one of those like yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna enjoy the shit out of this one and this was the

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Rey Mysterio Kevin Owens match yeah um before that we did have a small vt with an interview

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with Tiffany Stratton as well just sort of hyping up the main event again and things like that

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wasn't it wasn't much to go in on but yeah we didn't make no of it I think these small little vt

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recaps it tell myself I remember that I never did it was more it was more a case I made a note

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of it because there was this small interview afterwards but there was no real substance so

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that interview it was more just getting tiffy some camera time or Byron Saxton some camera time

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it's a match of Byron Saxton these days here oh awesome Byron awesome more tiffy time for Byron

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Saxton I don't know it's it could be any tiff story I've thought that one me I've done it yeah

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you remember it now though don't you can't put tiffy in front of everything oh but she can and

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she will she will but yes I hope not as well I was sort of I'm sort at this stage at this stage

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of me watching it I'm sort of hoping yeah I'm hoping Tiffany Stratton gets knocked off tonight

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she's honest if you look at the selection of WWE female superstars just all the ones I can think of

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off the top of my head you're obviously mommy bailey noia you know

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and she tiffy just doesn't fit that she's too barbie for me I think no but I'm gonna press pause

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on this conversation because this is gonna come in later on um but now let's talk about Rey Mysterio

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versus Kevin Owens in this men's singles match this was match five of the evening the penultimate

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match of the evening and how good was it to see Rey Mysterio back in the ring

426
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,000
yeah nine-year-old rich was bouncing around that front room when that that music hit

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oh 100% it does not matter how old you are as soon as you hear that boy okay boy okay it's a 619

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yeah I just turned it to a nine-year-old bouncing off the sofa which I probably shouldn't have met

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in front of my wife but it's just a complete it is a complete it's a complete hype it really is

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and it's absolutely absolutely adore Rey Mysterio love the style of wrestling that he promotes

431
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,520
lucha libre style is so exciting so thrilling to watch that's why I can't actually more of

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pencil even even though Mysterio is he's starting a crack on a bit now he is uh he is known as a

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an old vet uh in the wwe now I mean we mentioned earlier on he won he won the royal rumble and

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won a tight-locked WrestleMania back in 2006 he was inducted in 2000 as well wouldn't he so

435
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yeah yeah so he's been a haul of fame for 15 years and it's nearly the 20 year anniversary

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of him winning royal rumble I mean I think he's still got after this royal rumble he's got to

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have at least one more in him we can't let 20 years of him going from number two to win the whole damn

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thing um do you reckon they do it again fucking right I do I reckon the 20th anniversary of

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rough stereo guys from number two do you reckon they'd let him win it again I reckon I reckon

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they'll at least tease it he'll be in the match he'll make it to the final two yeah and then he'll

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use that as an excuse to put someone over which is what the veterans do and it's a good quality

442
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,600
wrestler they'll use that as an opportunity to give back rather than to take because Rey doesn't

443
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:37,520
need it no he doesn't he's he's he gets by his name alone now but Mysterio going into this match

444
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had home field at home field advantage we we discussed this earlier on and yeah Rey just

445
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pulled out all the stops in this match I mean literally props to Kevin props to Kevin Owens

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I mean Kevin Owens really went at really went at him there was some fantastic there were some

447
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:03,200
fantastic spots I mean he was trying to kick the living shit out of him in front of his daughter I

448
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mean there was one a little bit before that now again this is going to sound really immature from

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me but I don't care um the first time Ray got his shoulder dropped out of the ring I did happen to

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notice that when he hit that bottom rope he did let one rip so it shows you that Kevin Owens hit

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him that hard that Rey Mysterio nearly shit himself I'm pretty sure Kevin Owens hit me I'd

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probably shit myself as well in fairness as much as we'll slag him off if he comes at me telling me

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he's gonna hit me I'm doing whatever the fuck he says to me let's put it this way I'm not gonna

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tell Kevin Owens he's not the WWE champion I'll tell him at a distance yeah with like oh show

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me the security I'll do it while I'm on the phone I'll literally like hey Kevin you're not the

456
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you're not the WWE champion so it's it's not happening it's fine I'm there's an ocean between

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me and him it's I'll do it over the phone but if I have to do it face to face it then happen then

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um but yeah I mean it was uh it was a really competitive match considering the age difference

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the style difference um I mean when Ray eventually hit that 619 did you hear that pop mate I had

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goosebumps I'm sat on my sofa several thousand miles away when you saw him tee that up and

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you're just that I know what's coming I know it's coming yeah um but Kevin Owens had his own

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fair share of spots I mean he was he attempted a well no I think he managed to pull it off he pulled

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off a um a Latino heat frog splash off the top rope I gave it a little show that was yeah gave it a

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little trouble shuffle gave it a little trouble shuffle on the top rope and uh and went for the

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frog splash basically just stood there shook himself going hey Ray I'm a goonie

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yes um but uh props to KO props to KO in this match he did some phenomenal selling for Ray

467
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Mysterio he did not leave anything but then Ray did some brilliant selling for him too

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00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:40,640
Wade Barrett was the one that wasn't watching at this precise second I had to go back and re-watch

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but as Wade Barrett said like Kevin Owens hit the perfect stunner and Ray sold that so so well

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but that's what Ray does like he is one of those guys that knows not to oversell too much not to

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undersell it but he can hit that sail point perfectly nine times out of ten but yeah I mean

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yeah there isn't much more to say about that other than that I mean I was all over this match this

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match one of my match one of the top contenders for me for match of the night gonna be I'm putting

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00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:32,240
you out there now but KO got the win which was an unusual turn I did genuinely expect Ray Mysterio

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to walk out of there with the win over Kevin Owens maybe it might have shut Kevin Owens up a little

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bit now he thinks he's defended his bloody title but they're giving Kevin Owens the momentum going

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into going into Indianapolis going into Royal Rumble and that ladder match that he has uh he's

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managed to find himself in with their Cody Rhodes but KO didn't stop there he didn't that cheeky

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motherfucker tried getting a pop-up no it's a package pile driver sorry on the hometown hero like

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what sort of go nuts have you got to have to think I'm gonna try and pop a package pile driver which

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Nick Holdis has already told him he is not allowed to use on Ray Mysterio this is this is where I

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think this addendum comes in it is because Cody decides that you do not do that to Ray Mysterio

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in his own backyard and we see the American nightmare comes sprinting down that entry ramp

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yeah I mean I'm pretty sure the way the American nightmare ran down there he might have broken

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it who's saying Bolt's world record he was flying he didn't he definitely didn't hang around

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and uh and what a rule and whatever I mean the ending of this map the I mean it was to the point

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the commentary team themselves had to go into the crowd to escape being trampled by all the

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security that came out but this all culminated in a backstage promo between Nick Holdis and

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Cody Rhodes after the after it had all broken up and I think Nick Holdis did the best possible thing

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because both Cody and Kevin Owens more Kevin Owens and Cody but they're both being quite

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unpredictable like you know Kevin's gonna come out and say something but you don't know when you're

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gonna cross his line and when he's gonna take a swing and Cody just for for a champion should

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show a little bit more um what's that word restraint yeah it's nice to see him wanting to make

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appearances and wanting to be there and you know it's just something we're not used to obviously

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when Roman was was holding that belt you didn't see him very often so we're having Cody in week

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out weekend trying to get into as many matches as possible it's really nice to see but you know

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you've got a hell of a match coming up in two weeks at Royal Rumble we do keep going back to it you

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know Kevin Owens and Cody Rhodes have got this ladder match where now both of their titles are

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being taken off them next week both the belts are going to be suspended above the ring in the Royal

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Rumble and no one you know they the the contract signings being moved to Saturday night main event

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and I can't remember where that was being held off the top of my head Saturday night main event

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is being held next Saturday in San Antonio Texas and that contract signing is to be moderated by

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Mr. WrestleMania himself the hometown hero of San Antonio yeah I'll break your shirt Michael's

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I can't wait to see him back do you know what the best thing about that's gonna be it's just

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hearing that I'm a sexy boy sexy boy as he walks down I'd like he said this is we're getting to

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a point now where nine-year-old Rich is like we've got to watch wrestling we've got to watch

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wrestling and we're seeing some names that we're used to see you're talking about you're talking

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about Shawn Michaels wrestling theme don't pretend like you don't sing that to yourself in the

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00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:35,360
mirror every night in the mirror in a shower mate yeah you gotta get a bit Shawn Michaels in the

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shower walk out in the towel pretty much like his promo did back in the day but speaking about

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Saturday night main event we had something else announced as well we had another match for Saturday

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night main event announcing San Antonio San Antonio Texas next week which was the returning monster

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among men Braun Strowman versus the Samoan werewolf Jacob Fatou I'm sorry that is building up to be

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one hell of a fight I think that feud is gonna culminate as a WrestleMania match and you know what

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I really hope it does because I think the way those two can work or could possibly work together

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could work very very well I would not want to be on the opposite end of Braun Strowman trying

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to pull off a pop-up Samoan drop no it's you're gonna be well there's one way to escape that if

518
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:45,440
he pops you up too much you're just gonna be able to hang on to the rafters like a and yeah but

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00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:57,680
no they don't um the other matches we had the other matches we had um announced uh were for

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next week's SmackDown uh so Jacob Fatou got a match it's only fair that his hip twin got a

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match himself so we got LA Knight versus Tamatonga next week on SmackDown yeah I can't wait yeah

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um not only that but we had the Motor City Machine Guns back in action next week versus

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Pretty Deadly um I mean I don't wrestle I don't rate Pretty Deadly as a tag team that much although

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00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:34,080
they rolled them last week they may surprise they may surprise they might do but they got rolled

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last week so I'm prepared to see them get rolled again next week yeah I mean Pretty Deadly uh

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speaking of which uh we're involved in the next backstage promo where we found out that they were

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acting on orders they'd been given their marching orders by DIY who basically they don't care who

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00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:01,920
they face they just didn't really want to face Motor City Machine Guns yes we find out from them

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they were given their orders and then obviously Apollo Crews is having a conversation with them

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but what I don't get is why did Johnny Gargano turn into Will Smith just beat him down saying keep

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my name out of your mouth well this is it is the Apollo Crews popped up in a segment with

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the with Pretty Deadly and DIY last week as well or earlier this week I forget when it was

533
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and I didn't I've not made the the connection yet I have to assume that this is something that happened

534
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before we started recording this podcast so possibly something that's happened previously

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between Gargano and Crews or even Garga or Apollo Crews and DIY as as a pair but Johnny Gargano

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as much as he was playing Good Cop to um Tomasso Ciampa's Bad Cop uh we're pretty deadly it's a

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case that he um he really seemed to take exception to Apollo Crews so there's definitely something

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01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:14,880
there I'm just not sure what it is um but yeah and we could end up with an interesting storyline

539
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:21,840
there it could go nowhere well it all depends on how it's played out off the top of my head I can't

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really think of a direction that I personally play out but I'm not a WWE writer and there's a damn

541
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:36,800
good reason for that yeah your handwriting sucks not only does my handwriting suck but we'd all get

542
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:46,080
fed up of seeing BBL Bailey running around with five titles well while we're talking about Bailey

543
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:50,640
uh we may as well move on to the main event um now the only thing I'm going to bring up

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01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:57,280
before we talk about the main event was a VT package that we saw after Bailey's and after

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01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:06,640
Bailey's entrance um which was announcing the return of the Nature Boys offspring offspring

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Charlotte Blair you know what Laura we just think Laura we just thinking I wish you'd fuck off

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01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,720
to AEW with her dad to be fair I'm not gonna lie to you I've seen more than enough of Charlotte

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01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:29,520
Blair in the last 15 years to really care um I think she's overrated she's been overpushed

549
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:36,480
and the only reason she's where she is is because she's one of Ric Flair's offspring

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a lot of a lot of uh sort of more established wrestling based creators than ourselves have

551
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,960
been speculating that she's just gonna get another cue jump she's gonna end up coming back

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and she'll get a title shot straight away straight in it mania and honestly I hope that

553
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,760
doesn't I hope they're smart enough to see that that isn't just not a good business decision it's

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not what people want there's been so many talented female superstars that could do with a push or a

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01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:17,680
few extra you know strings to their bow right Charlotte Flair is established far more than

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she should be and if it wasn't for her name she'd probably be wrestling in impact

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01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,640
more than likely or in impacts developmental division because I really don't rate her

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no talented individual to a point but not as talented as the pushes would suggest no um

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01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:41,760
um but enough about Charlotte Flair we don't like Charlotte Flair I think we've established that

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01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:49,360
so we do like Bailey and we do like Tiffany Stratton yes we certainly do so um after this

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01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:55,600
little vt package we saw Tiffany Stratton coming in and we've seen a different side of Tiffany

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Stratton in this end just in this entrance alone than we have done in any of the any of the promos

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that she's cut in the the new Netflix era of raw it's uh I've got a bit this is an unpause on the

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01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,520
conversation we had earlier on where you were saying that Tiffany Stratton did not seem to fit

565
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:22,720
a mold she does well if you go back 10 years tiffy would have fitted straight in she looks like

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01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:32,240
every other diva from that era the divas I would agree with you on on the basis of what we saw in

567
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:40,400
promos however I'm going to challenge you on that on what we saw in this match because a completely

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,680
different Tiffany Stratton walked down that ramp to who was in any of the promos that were took

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01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:50,720
place earlier in the evening or any of the other weeks that we've seen previous more of a badass

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01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:57,680
with that title over her shoulder it's given her a bit of confidence she oozed confidence on that

571
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:05,360
walk down like yeah you wouldn't think that was her first title defense um one other little

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01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:11,200
addendum that I'm going to make on this on this match that is only ever so slightly related and

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I'm getting good at doing these now um so do you know how old Lillian Garcia is

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I'm guessing somewhere along the lines of about 53 so not tremendously far off you're only five

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01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:38,720
years out she's 58 fuck off she's nearly 60 and that woman looks phenomenal still would

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01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:47,760
yeah 100 100% and that was the entire reason for bringing that up I remember seeing I just

577
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:53,920
remember watching the Lillian Garcia do the do the ring introductions before the match started

578
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and I was like right okay I remember when Lillian Garcia was being asked about the rock strudel

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I remember being asked about the people strudel

580
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:15,040
I've been waiting for you to sneak that in into an episode but since we started this podcast I'm

581
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:20,640
not gonna lie let's let's face it the people strudel is gonna come up quite it's gonna come up

582
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:27,440
often and we're gonna enjoy every last second of it so yeah but she was bit she was being asked

583
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:34,960
about the people strudel back in the 90s and she looked good then but that woman looks phenomenal

584
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:46,960
now that woman has barely aged vampire I'm not making the obvious joke I am not doing it cryogenic

585
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:54,880
blood oh she's been eating too much of the people strudel right that's enough of the strudel jokes

586
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,560
because otherwise this is gonna devolve and they're not gonna get through this match so

587
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:10,960
yes sorry one of the thing that we did one of the thing we I haven't mentioned yet is somebody

588
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:16,960
else's in attendance in the in the crowd well we've got two some ones but only one of them

589
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:22,160
related to this match we were shown earlier in the night that victoria two-time women's

590
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:31,440
title holder from the day he's gone by was in attendance that not it was in attendance that

591
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:38,240
night so saw her a little bit more during the kevin owing's mysterious match the other evidence to

592
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:46,000
his face and we've got one of the person in attendance not a legend as such but rocks and

593
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:53,680
pares was in attendance as well which recently defroamed nxt title holder yeah this is it and

594
01:06:53,680 --> 01:07:01,440
I think I mentioned this during the nxt segment that we might see a main roster push for it yeah

595
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:07,680
I think I'm right I think yeah we had this conversation and and we've had it off off

596
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:14,560
the podcast as well I think the reason that rocks and pares dropped that title in nxt is because

597
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:22,000
we're going to see her coming up in the uh in the I'm guessing in the transfer window we'll just

598
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:27,840
yeah to us it's basically just the draft they're just slapping superstars around and trying to make

599
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:34,000
it easy on themselves so yeah I think we're calling it now rocks and pares is moving up to main roster

600
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:39,840
during this transfer window so when details start leaking out about that rocks and pares I'm going to

601
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:47,520
take a guess she's going smack down I think she will purely for the fact that when her and bailey

602
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:55,840
had a conversation during the the tiffy match um I think her first feud's going to be with bailey

603
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:05,600
very possible very possible so yeah smack down to face to go and try and kick bbl bailey's backside

604
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,840
there's plenty of it to pit there's plenty of it to kick

605
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:16,400
the raw weight has been 100% yeah no it was a good match

606
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:23,280
pares plays a role in this match um where bailey sort of losing focus partway through the match

607
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:28,000
which I don't think helped her it didn't it definitely I'm not sure it hindered her either

608
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:33,440
because she didn't really face any repercussion from pares directly being there there was a moment

609
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:38,240
where there was a moment where she was distracted but stratton just wasn't no position to take

610
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:46,720
advantage of it at the time um but I mean bailey's the veteran over stratton she got the upper hand

611
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:54,720
early on she did and it was a lot of technical stuff though there's a lot of wrist locks and and

612
01:08:54,720 --> 01:09:00,240
just kind of working on those shoulders and ironically they both went for the opposition's

613
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:06,880
left arm and shoulder um well I think I think tiffy went for it because of a well-documented

614
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:11,920
injury to bailey's left shoulder she's been out had surgery on that shoulder so it's always going

615
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:18,160
to be a target it was just more ironic how bailey also targeted tiffy's left shoulder I don't know

616
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:24,880
whether that was uh paying homage to her surgery or it was just random coincidence and not 100%

617
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:33,280
sure I think that's got more to do with tiffy's move set so she's got uh an alabama slammer

618
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:39,440
which would require both arms so if you can take one arm out yeah because it's the car wheel alabama

619
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:49,040
slammer as well isn't it yeah which is beautiful move by the way like is a nice nice move tiffy's

620
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:55,600
move set is absolutely phenomenal looking and um do you know what actually this was the this was

621
01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:04,880
the other contender didn't she so yeah so this this match this match was my other contender for

622
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:13,120
match of the for match of the night for me yeah it was incredible and so I didn't get much in the way

623
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:18,880
of notes about what happened in the match because I was so engrossed in what I was watching I if you

624
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:24,800
go go into the the notes section for Smackdown you'll actually see in my notes that I've put great

625
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:35,280
match was so sucked in I forgot to make notes um yeah so there was a little bit of everything

626
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:41,760
there was no weapons involved no you know no steel chairs no none of that but I don't think it needed

627
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:49,120
it I really don't it was a generally a really good um match and and tiffy stratton was definitely

628
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:53,360
using things that you could use to her advantage you know like tying Bailey up in the ropes and

629
01:10:54,080 --> 01:11:01,600
and using the uh the cover on the side of the ring to trap her and yeah it was really for somebody

630
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:07,600
so young she was pulling out some veteran ass moves well like you said she is the youngest ever

631
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:15,280
women's money in the bank holder like winner yeah she is the youngest ever Smackdown women's champion

632
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:21,680
she's 25 you know yeah she's got to think you know she spent some time down in the development

633
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:29,440
developmental stages of all down in NXT and she held gold down there so you know she's she's getting

634
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:34,480
where she should be in the match against Bailey is her first title defense that's no mean feat

635
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:43,600
no it's not because Bailey not an opponent that is easily put down no um not since the uh the

636
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:50,880
huggable Bailey era at least yeah I mean you could have had so many more options for that first

637
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:57,440
title defense that you could have used as a a squash match to try and make tiffy look good

638
01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:04,480
but I think the fact that they threw her in against you know a seven time women's champion

639
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:14,000
in in Bailey um you know this is the the one the was the first woman to hold or to win all four titles

640
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:20,560
yeah something like that I mean you say that a squash match would have made Tiffany look good

641
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:28,480
then what is the win against Bailey it's look it's yeah made her look really really strong so

642
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:33,760
considering you know who her next match could be again she's beating the number one contender we

643
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:39,440
now need to work out who that next number one contender is you know there might be something

644
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:43,840
next week on Smackdown that we don't know about which will give her a match for Royal Rumble

645
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:53,680
you know I mean I think the obvious set up we've got here is that Nia Jacks still has

646
01:12:53,680 --> 01:13:00,240
unfinished business with Stratton um from her money in the bank cash in so I I'm putting money on

647
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:05,360
um on Nia Jacks being the next number one contender and that will be a match to watch

648
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:12,080
because Bailey is physically strong she's a veteran she knows what she's doing Nia Jacks has all of

649
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:19,440
those things but she's so much bigger than Stratton yeah and she's three times the size of Bailey

650
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:26,560
you know like she's a big powerful unit you know that big Samoan heritage is definitely paying off

651
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:32,400
to her advantage in in this profession and you can see why but like I said earlier you know this is

652
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:38,960
we've got some of these bigger women hitting some of these high-risk top rope moves and it is great

653
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:44,960
to see and there's a father of daughters it basically just says does not matter your body type you can

654
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:51,120
still do that and I think it's a great boost so hopefully by seeing some of these big female

655
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:56,240
superstars coming through we are going to get you know the next generation of superstars aren't going

656
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:02,640
to be going I can't really do that because I don't fit the the body type or don't fit the the image

657
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:08,480
so she's definitely helping professional wrestling on the outside without even realizing it from the

658
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:14,800
inside with the title so they don't give her the moniker of the role model for no reason they certainly

659
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:25,680
don't but we've digressed again that brings us to the end of the breakdown and I sort of signposted

660
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:31,360
my match of the night my matches of the night I couldn't pick an overall winner because they would

661
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:37,600
both of my choices in Kevin Owens versus Ray Mysterio and the women's championship main event

662
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:47,840
were both fantastic matches they were both fantastic matches I think for me personally I want to go

663
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:57,120
I'm gonna have to go with Ray Mysterio and Kevin Owens mate there was some great matches on this card

664
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:04,320
um yeah for once I've I'm sat here going actually the entire card was pretty good there isn't a

665
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:12,080
match on there that you know if we were to take away a match I don't really think there'd be one

666
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:17,200
I could say wouldn't make too much of a difference you know there's not a match we can lose here

667
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:21,600
without causing big differences in storyline so I think they've managed to get it pretty much

668
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:28,640
perfect this week yeah I mean with the storylines yes I'll agree if I had to if I had to have

669
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:34,640
one match removed regardless of what it did to the storyline I will be honest it's the

670
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:44,720
BFAB versus Piper Niven match I'm surprised you said that it wasn't my I thought about the Jimmy

671
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:50,080
Uso versus Carmelo Hayes match which I think you might say if that was the gun would put your head

672
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:57,200
and cut the match that would be the match that you'd cut but I just yeah I'm sorry I as much as I

673
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:06,640
don't go through with like if it's a choice between the Usos I'll always yeet before we do anything

674
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:13,440
out before anything else yeah no disrespect Jimmy he's a fantastic superstar always has been always

675
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:23,200
been a fan of the Usos as as a pair but Jace Push is too big to it's too big to to rule out at this

676
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:30,400
point yeah but no I can see you coming from it was it didn't add much to the storyline you know

677
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:37,760
Chelsea Green doesn't really benefit much from this it I think it was more of a push for Piper Niven

678
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,720
if I'm honest it depends where she's going to go from this because they push it too hard she's

679
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:48,560
going to end up turning on Chelsea and running going for the title so I mean we know that's

680
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:52,880
where it'll likely end up because that's where these situations normally end up Chelsea Green

681
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:58,560
will turn into a bitch she'll mistreat Niven Niven will have enough and Niven will lay her out

682
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:04,800
it's just a rewrite we've seen this hundreds of times before throughout the last 20 years

683
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:13,200
if not more you know it does but no that was the end of Smitehunt and I think it was that

684
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:20,880
that is the end of this week's episode not quite not quite I know we had a we had a we had promo

685
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:31,920
at the end that was a sure there was something in the end what did I mean no I didn't infuse myself

686
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,840
it did just add there's nothing in your notes there's nothing in your notes and there sure is

687
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:41,760
hell nothing in mine um no the white the reason I've hit pause on the end of the episode so

688
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:49,840
from next week me and Rich have discussed doing something slightly differently so this is going

689
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:55,600
to be a pure evolving process it where we take things out we put things in we try things in

690
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:03,120
different ways just the last two weeks for us the last two weeks we have done one big episode

691
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:10,960
where we talk about raw nxt and smackdown we record the all the segments separately but it's edited

692
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:18,160
into one long episode which it was an ambitious thing to try and do it seemed to work in theory at

693
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:26,880
the time but we're getting on yeah our shift rotations with work and making that option quite

694
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:32,480
difficult especially the hardest option is smackdown because I work early morning weekends

695
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:40,240
and Adam works every other weekend so yeah smackdown is becoming an issue in one point

696
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:47,840
and we don't want to not make this podcast and put bits out because of our schedule so

697
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:57,040
instead of doing one long episode we're going to trial for a week or two at least doing releasing

698
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:04,720
shorter episodes and doing it rather than doing raw nxt and smackdown all in one it's going to break

699
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:10,800
the whole separate episode just to try and cut our workload down and make life a little bit easier

700
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:18,240
and for for us and make the information we're giving you a little bit more digestible and in

701
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:22,400
my opinion it's going to make it more it's going to make it an easier watch for you guys because

702
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:29,520
we've already told we've got I say we like I'm going to be involved in the editing process at all

703
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:35,920
Rich has got some fun has got some editing to do with this week's segments where at the minute

704
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:40,960
I mean we're looking at three and a half hour long episode at the moment so yeah I've got to try and

705
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:46,800
do some time somewhere it's a huge episode to get through we don't really want to cut anything out

706
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:54,240
because a lot of this is out of the we don't have we don't do this we don't do this via a script we

707
01:19:54,240 --> 01:20:03,040
literally have notes on whatever match we've put whatever show that we're doing and we just

708
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:08,240
it's a conversation between me and it's conversations that me and Rich have had for years

709
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:14,320
and we're just recording this shit and putting it out for you guys to watch and shorter episodes of

710
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:20,080
the segment so one episode for raw one episode for nxt one episode for smackdown is not just going

711
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:25,920
to make it easier for you guys to watch but it's going to make it easier for us to make and it means

712
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:32,080
that you're getting more up to date and we're not going to get so burnt out because by the time we

713
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:37,120
finish this I've still got a few hours of editing to do and I'm up early on a Monday morning for

714
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:41,760
school run so yeah it should hopefully stop us getting burnt out to a point where we both go

715
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:47,840
we're going to take a week off week turns in the two weeks two weeks turns into a month and then it

716
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:54,560
yeah it goes from there so I'm gonna kill this one thank you very much Adam for joining me this

717
01:20:54,560 --> 01:21:01,440
week it has been a pleasure as always and thank you for joining me and thank you to everybody else

718
01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:05,680
let us know in the comments if there's anything that you guys want to see anything that you guys

719
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:11,840
think that we do well anything we do anything that we don't do so well or if there's a segment that

720
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:17,360
you feel that we don't need or something you know that we do this for you guys this is just a

721
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:23,600
conversation we'd have on discord anyway so yeah us putting it out for you guys to join in if there's

722
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:30,240
things you're really not interested in then let us know and then we can sort that one out except

723
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:37,600
for the nose jokes they are going to continue oh 100% I know what Adam's like you can't not make

724
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:45,280
a joke out of that nose um so no you can't this is basically the miss of faces that's the joke

725
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:52,560
right see you next week guys in the next episode peace yeah