1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Welcome to the ring, it's rich and Adam. 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Breaking down the fights with flair and passion. 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Tag teams grappling, belts are clashing. 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Finishes and factions catching action. 5 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Hi, I'm rich and hey, I'm Adam. 6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Welcome to this week's episode of 7 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Finishers and Factions NXT Edition. 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Available on all of your favourite podcast platforms as an audible. 9 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Here on YouTube where you get to hang out with us as well. 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,000 So without further ado, let's crack into NXT. 11 00:00:53,000 --> 00:01:03,000 We're back talking about NXT this week from the Capital Wrestling Centre in Orlando. 12 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Yeah, I mean after last week we said quite a lot that we didn't really have a lot of experience in consuming NXT content, especially more recent stuff. 13 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,000 So yeah, we found these especially last week difficult to watch. 14 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,000 And Rich, did you find it any easier this week or? 15 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,000 For the first half of it, I got quite into it. 16 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,000 The end of it was reasonable as well. 17 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 It was that middle section of this week that really kind of bored me. 18 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,000 It was a bit of a push through to kind of finish it. 19 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,000 And then, let's say with the start of the main event and then it got better as it got on. 20 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,000 But most of it was a bit lacklustre for me this week I think. 21 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Yeah, fair enough. I know there were bits of it for me as well. 22 00:01:51,000 --> 00:02:01,000 It's difficult to sort of pinpoint, but I know a bit like Raw, I could pick out my best match and my worst match, which will sort of come as we go through. 23 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:06,000 But NXT started a little bit differently than last week. 24 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:15,000 It actually did a recap of New Year's Evil, which was last week's NXT, which we went through. 25 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,000 We've got the episode up on the YouTube channel. Go and check it out. 26 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Moving on to this week's episode, we started off with a promo, in-ring promo by a new NXT champion, Oberfemi. 27 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Doing his victory lap. 28 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,000 And it just blows me away how over he is with the NXT crowd. 29 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:42,000 He's getting a lot of fun interaction without having to do an awful lot, which is always nice to see. 30 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:49,000 Yeah, and I think some of the things he was saying as well are quite, they resonated a lot with the crowd. 31 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,000 He was busy explaining how a lot of his stuff was what he'd accomplished, was backed by Destiny. 32 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,000 And now he finally sort of got there. It was a phrase he used a few times. 33 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:06,000 And that being, you know, the NXT champion was his destiny and he was finally there. 34 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:13,000 And, you know, with his normal sort of attitude from what we can tell over the last couple of weeks is, you know, 35 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:24,000 he's going to be that iron fist ruler of NXT and he's going to do with NXT as he sees fit with Ava's permission, of course. 36 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Yeah, I mean, very sort of, I made note of the fact that there were two very different ends of the respect scale for his two opponents from last week. 37 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Yes, Eddie Thorpe, zero respect for Eddie Thorpe, a deep seated hatred for him. 38 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:47,000 It came out last week as well. So that follows on from, you're not going to beat someone up and then come out next week and be like, 39 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Oh yeah, no, I love the guy. I think it's brilliant. 40 00:03:50,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Yeah, no, of course, but in the same breath, he did a number on Trick Williams as well and still came out very respectful of the former NXT champion. 41 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:10,000 He did acknowledge a lot of his titles and records that he held. But yeah, it was interesting to see the way he described it as well though. 42 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Trick Williams is great holds all these records, but he found his ceiling. 43 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Yeah, which he said a lot. He said pretty much all of the NXT locker room had this ceiling. 44 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:32,000 All of those were in different places, but Oberfemi feels that he doesn't have a ceiling at all. 45 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,000 It feels a bit like me to be fair. He's got a bit of an ego. 46 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Well, yeah. And the fact that he's holding the strap tells us that he's got a right to feel that he's got a right to that ego. 47 00:04:47,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Somebody else who's holding a strap who interrupted Oberfemi's victory lap was Tony DeAngelo, the current North American men's champion. 48 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Yeah, well he came in and kind of told Oberfemi that he's basically welcome to the Big Leagues. 49 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:21,000 So it'd be interesting to see how big the Big Leagues are compared to Oberfemi. He's a big fellow. 50 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Well, the big thing that Tony seemed to really want to get across was the fact that he was very interested in becoming a double champion. 51 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Obviously current holder of the North American champion. That may mean we see him make a vie for the NXT championship soon as well. 52 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:54,000 But Tony DeAngelo has one big roadblock in his way and that roadblock's name is Ridge Holland, who we also saw come out. 53 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:10,000 So this thing between DeAngelo and Holland seemed to almost eclipse the fact that Oberfemi was in the ring. Had it not been for the fact that at the very end of this promo, we had Eddie Thorpe, 54 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:26,000 a blindside Femi with, I don't know if it was like a fireman's hose, I'm not going to lie, I'm not sure what that was, but he definitely came out and attacked him with some. 55 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Bit steep when you get shown up in your own victory lap, isn't it? 56 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Oh, 100%. But that was how we left that promo. And then we cut to a backstage locker room promo with Dante, Sean, Oromenza. 57 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Yeah. I mean, Oromenza wasn't really a massive component in this promo as he seemed to leave as our other participant came in, which was Ethan Page, who I remember from last week, 58 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:06,000 and then he was in a bit of a pattern of back from the final boss, the Rock, on his NXT debut last week. 59 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:19,000 I don't know about you, Adam, I know we've both been pretty off topic when it comes to NXT, but Ethan Page reminds me very much of an MJF style figure. 60 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:25,000 It's a bit of an arrogant prick that seems to run his mouth quite a lot. 61 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:37,000 You see, I never really, I never likened him to MJF, and I will be honest, it's because I completely forgot about MJF because I'm not really watching AEW programming at the moment. 62 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:43,000 When I looked at Ethan Page, I was seeing early Miz, which was very similar. 63 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Good show. Good show. Yeah, definitely. At least Ethan Page is allowed to get dressed in the locker room and not the cleaning closet. 64 00:07:51,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Well, part of this promo was the fact that none of the rest of the NXT men's roster really want Ethan Page anywhere near them at the minute. 65 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:14,000 He seems to have been on a bit of a rampage, whereas all the Miz had to do was eat some chicken in the locker room and he got kicked out. 66 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:21,000 I can't believe they tossed him for that. 67 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:28,000 But Ethan Page came in bragging about his interactions with The Rock, doing really piss-poor impersonations in my view. 68 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 They were a bad one. 69 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 And yeah. 70 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 They were kind of funny in a way, I suppose. 71 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:52,000 But yeah, Chen seemed to take real exception to this, and that promo ends with him going to running off to Ava to set up a singles match later on in the night. 72 00:08:52,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Which leads us on to another singles match that we had last night as well, which in one I was looking forward to. 73 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:15,000 So this was match one on the card. This was a number one contenders match, which I'd have to look back in my notes from last week on NXT, 74 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:24,000 but I'm pretty sure Stephanie Baker, one of the participants on this, was in a number one contenders match last week. 75 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Yeah, she was. Yeah, so she won a Fatal Four way last week to become the number one contender to face Fallon Henley for her Women's North American Championship. 76 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:42,000 And technically she is the number one contender for that title. 77 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:57,000 But because Shotzi pinned Fallon Henley clean in the middle of the ring in the six woman tag match that they had last week on NXT, she kind of popped her head in and was like, look, I pinned a clean. 78 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Like, surely that makes me number one contender. 79 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Like, you don't pin the champion clean and not get something for it. 80 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:13,000 So Ava, the, you know, our general manager that we see quite a few times, not as much this week, I will throw out but see quite a lot. 81 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Decided that Shotzi was going to go up against Stephanie Baker. 82 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:33,000 And it wasn't really for the number one contenders for the championship as such. It was who faces her next, which is a little bit weird because even if Stephanie loses, she's still the number one contender. 83 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:40,000 But Shotzi gets the next match in two weeks time in Atlanta for the NXT Center stage. 84 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 If she wins. 85 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:47,000 The same as Baker would if she was to win the match as well. 86 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Yeah, definitely. 87 00:10:49,000 --> 00:11:01,000 So we had one of the biggest things for me and I remember asking you this before we started recording was a severe lack of commentary up to this point. 88 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:07,000 It was, I remember sitting watching it and it took me quite a back. 89 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:12,000 I mean, the commentary team in any WWE promotion are generally pretty pronounced. 90 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 You know, they're there. They're there to tell the story. 91 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:22,000 And without that direction, it was really difficult to, it was really difficult to sort of get into to begin with. 92 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:29,000 And then all of a sudden about two to three minutes into the match, it's almost as if somebody on pause unmuted the commentary team. 93 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,000 All of a sudden they were back in the back in the game, but. 94 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Waiting for Booker T to probably make a couple of remarks that maybe weren't needed. 95 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Well, yes. 96 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Most of Booker T's commentary. 97 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:52,000 But yeah, with with this match, it was. 98 00:11:52,000 --> 00:12:00,000 It wasn't a bad match. It was lots of sort of high risk, which I'm to expect from Vaker and Shotzi. 99 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,000 It's very much in their wheelhouse. 100 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Very entertaining. 101 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:12,000 I mean, Shotzi seemed very much in control in this match from what I remember from what I saw. 102 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:20,000 But Vaker definitely showed a more brutal savage side of her in this match that we didn't really get to see in the fatal four way last week. 103 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,000 I think too many people are in the ring at the same time. 104 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,000 You don't really get to see what each one of them has to offer. 105 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:35,000 So it is nice seeing people go one on one because you do have that extra ring space, the extra time to get things out. 106 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,000 And in a fatal four way, you've got three other people trying to cave your head in all the time. 107 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:46,000 And it doesn't matter who you are, you've got three other people trying to do it where one on one, you know, you've just got one to deal with. 108 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Well, this is how it normally plays out. 109 00:12:49,000 --> 00:13:05,000 But in this case, it seems that both JC Jane and current women's US title holder Fallon Henley wanted to get involved in trying to hand pick who they wanted to go through. 110 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,000 That's what I was saying. JC Jane did too much to interrupt. 111 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:14,000 I mean, she came running in and got laid out pretty quickly. 112 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:22,000 See, I put this down as a running in for a distraction. She was there. It was pure misdirection. 113 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:30,000 And you've got Fallon Henley sneaking in through the crowd to the other about shot to make her who I think was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. 114 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,000 If she went to bounce back off the road, didn't she? So could it have been anyone? 115 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:44,000 It literally was a complete coin toss. I don't think there was anything, any sort of premeditation for it. 116 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:50,000 But Shotzi ends up picking the win because again, Faker in wrong place at the wrong time. 117 00:13:50,000 --> 00:14:02,000 And we had the US title shot in a booked match set for two weeks at NXT in Atlanta, Georgia. 118 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:11,000 That's for Sandra Stage and that's Shotzi versus Fallon Henley for the Women's North American Championship. 119 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Yeah, I mean, I mean, I was going to say I've seen Shotzi on wrestling on a number of different occasions. 120 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:24,000 She's she's a bit of an NXT veteran now. She's done some main roster stuff as well. 121 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,000 I think I've seen her in a few rumbles in the past. I'm sure she's made appearances there. 122 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,000 I might even see her again this year and that one that pops up. 123 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:37,000 She's got the Women's Royal Rumble coming up in two weeks, no, two, three weeks. 124 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Yeah, definitely. But moving swiftly on, we went to another backstage promo this time to the Women's locker room 125 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:58,000 where Sol Ruka was commiserating Kalani Jordan who just doesn't seem to have been able to shake off the loss in the Fatal Four way last week. 126 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:07,000 No, neither of them really in the Fatal Four way. Like, I don't remember Kalani doing much in that match. 127 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:16,000 There was there's a few times that you could probably pinpoint if you rewatched it, but off the top of my head, 128 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:27,000 I can't really, I really think of anything. So I don't really know why she's being commiserated on losing a match that she wasn't really part of to remember anyway. 129 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Yeah, I mean, I've got to admit between this week and last week, up to this point, 130 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Kalani Jordan just seemed like a bit of a yawn to me, really. 131 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:48,000 When she first came out, there was nothing truly remarkable about her and considering that she was in this Fatal Four way with three other, 132 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:56,000 three other talents that I had no idea about. I mean, Kalani Jordan was the one that I cared the least about. 133 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Out of those four and, yeah, I'm just seeing somebody who's just feeling a bit sorry for themselves, really. 134 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:13,000 And we had Zariah to give her the biggest dose of truth, basically tearing her puller head out of her ass. 135 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Right. 136 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:20,000 And try and use all these negative feelings to push her to be better next time so she can actually win. 137 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:27,000 To which then you have Korra Jade coming in and basically saying, look, I should have won last week. 138 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 I had a slap, you know, slaps you stupid. 139 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:37,000 But again, I'll say it before I think we said it last week. 140 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:45,000 I'd say if you want to go back and check out what we said about that match last week, I'll put the episode link in the comments at the end. 141 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,000 None of them really stood out at all to be fair, apart from... 142 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Stephanie Baker. 143 00:16:54,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Yeah, apart from Stephanie Baker. Sorry, you'll have to excuse me now. Mine went blank and I didn't have my notes. 144 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:11,000 So to see her go into that next stage was nice, but yeah, the rest that I didn't really think much of. 145 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:19,000 But yeah, I mean, Korra Jade's main talent for me just seems to be running in her mouth. 146 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:30,000 And Kalani Jordan did the first semi-interesting thing that I've seen her do, which was an absolute huge bitch slap to Korra Jade. 147 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Basically, she shut her mouth. 148 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:43,000 And we're possibly set for a match for them later on in the night as it goes. 149 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Yeah, definitely. 150 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:58,000 But then that then led us up to the next point where we had yet another out of ring promo with Oberfemi and Ava having a conversation. 151 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Yeah, conversation about Eddie Thorpe's attack right at the top of the show. 152 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Basically, Femi wanting to give Thorpe an opportunity and Ava just not wanting to reward bad behaviour. 153 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Ava very much sort of taking on a parent role here, which... 154 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,000 And they are like two toddlers these days. 155 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:33,000 I seem to remember making this comparison last week, but it was very much a case that because we saw Ava in every single freaking promo last week, 156 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:40,000 it felt like she was having to really sort of lend herself to let the show anbore through. 157 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:53,000 Thankfully, we don't see her that much this week, but very much sort of presence being felt. 158 00:18:53,000 --> 00:19:01,000 And a little bit her being led by the talent rather than her leading the talent to a certain degree. 159 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:12,000 It's a bit easier for herself though, and in the long run it's going to make her a bit of a walk over and we could have an interesting sort of co-effect. 160 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Yeah, I mean we had a couple of other faces in the background, one of them Mr Stone, who to me sort of came across as a bit of a spineless git to be honest. 161 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,000 It didn't really seem to... 162 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,000 It reminded me of the Snake from Jungle Book. 163 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:37,000 The car, just sort of slithering in, trying to basically make himself look as good as he possibly could. 164 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,000 Oh, so NXT is equivalent of The Miz? 165 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Yeah, pretty much. 166 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,000 A lot of hate on The Miz this week. 167 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Yeah, we really are ripping into The Miz something wrong, but after that match on Raw I think he fucking deserves it. 168 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Yeah, anyway. But yeah, no, we ended up NXT title match for next week over Femi vs Eddie Thorpe, which hopefully will stop Thorpe from running his mouth, 169 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,000 but I severely doubt that will do anything to be quite honest. 170 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,000 I mean, you never know. 171 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,000 This... 172 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:29,000 But talking about people who like to run their mouth with Eddie Thorpe, that's the perfect run-in to our next match, which was Ethan Page and Dante Shen. 173 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Yeah, so this was the match that was set up earlier in the night. 174 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Basically, yeah, started with Ethan Page, who as you quite rightly put it, likes to run his mouth, and Dante Chen, who was really looking for an excuse to shut it, basically. 175 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000 But I'd love to help him. 176 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,000 This match was over in two minutes. 177 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Yeah, I'm really disappointed with that. 178 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,000 I didn't get it. 179 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:09,000 It was a squash match, and I think this is more playing into maybe Page's storyline a little bit. 180 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:16,000 I mean, we saw him remove Chen's boot after the match ended. 181 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:22,000 He's already forced so many injuries to other people, and he was trying to win to Chen. 182 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Yeah, I mean, he's broken somebody's wrist. 183 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Javon Nevins is out with an annihilated jaw, and now it looks like Chen is likely to be out with possibly a fracture or a break, something along those lines. 184 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000 It's not going to be. 185 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Look, you mentioned Javon Nevins with having that broken jaw. 186 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:56,000 He still busted Lightning and run his ass out there to save him. 187 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:08,000 He did. He came out trying to get some retribution, but unfortunately, because that jaw is still completely shattered, it just took one swift jab to the jaw. 188 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,000 He was dribbling crimson again when he all over the map. 189 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Yeah, we got colour again this month. We got colour again on NXT this week, which some people like to see. 190 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Some people aren't so fond of. I mean, I'm pretty impartial to it. 191 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:32,000 But Page is currently being painted as a complete sort of... 192 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:38,000 I was undecided as to whether to drive him as a sociopath or a psychopath. I'm not entirely sure. 193 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:44,000 He definitely falls into one of those two categories, but it's not something I know a tremendous amount about. 194 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:50,000 But yeah, he's definitely giving off some unstable vibes at the moment, which... 195 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Yeah, he's out for... 196 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:59,000 He is out to annihilate the rest... truly annihilate the rest of the competition. 197 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:08,000 And eventually, we're going to need to come up with somebody or Ava's going to have to come up with somebody that can put a stop to him. 198 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,000 And that's where this story ends. 199 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:24,000 I think we might have that. I've got a feeling this, the person to stop Ethan Page going on his rampage, could possibly be the current NXT champion, Oberfendi. 200 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:33,000 I mean, he'd definitely be a candidate, but we know how the storylines generally tend to play out. 201 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:40,000 I think we're going to have... I think Javon Evans, he's already showed he's willing to try and jump back in the ring even before he's fully healed. 202 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Like an unsanctioned thing, maybe. 203 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,000 It's going to end up being something... 204 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:54,000 If he does much more damage than what we've been told he's done to his jaw, he's going to be out of action for good. 205 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000 So it could end up being a... 206 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000 Final match. 207 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 A career match as it goes. 208 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,000 It'd be interesting. 209 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,000 But we'll have to see how that plays out as time goes on. 210 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Definitely. 211 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:15,000 This promo, this next promo we talked about again before the recording started a little bit. 212 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:26,000 And we both sort of agreed that this one took us out of the loop a lot because it was very much peaks into everybody's life. 213 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:34,000 Well, so it started off with Dion Lennox and Nobby Fermi having a bit of a conversation. 214 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:40,000 We did also see a small cameo with Shawn Michaels in the background talking with Superstar. 215 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,000 I didn't recognise, but that was something I picked out. 216 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000 I didn't spot that at all. 217 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 I'll have to go back and have a look. 218 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 I was going to say go back and watch it. 219 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 You'll spot him in the background. 220 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000 If you know who that Superstar was, chat. 221 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Or let us know in the comments. 222 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,000 If you know who that Superstar was, drop it like it's hot. 223 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Get it in those comments. 224 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Let us know. 225 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000 100%. 226 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:13,000 But yeah, we had Dion Lennox who was expressing some interest in Oberfem in a potential future title shot. 227 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,000 One in an opportunity to try and take the strap off Oberfemmi. 228 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:23,000 But Fermi seems to want to do anything with that. 229 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Everyone seems to want to tell him that they're going to take his strap. 230 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:32,000 But no one has really had the opportunity to put their money where their mouth is. 231 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,000 So I think we'll see Eddie Thorpe's getting that opportunity next week. 232 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Yeah, this is it. 233 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000 It will be Oberfemmi's first title defence. 234 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000 And after that... 235 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,000 In this promo, we heard some rumblings of what sounded like an argument in the background. 236 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,000 We then got panned across to... 237 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Is Rizzo and Sean Spears? 238 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Yeah, Sean Spears and Adriana Rizzo. 239 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:05,000 Who, I think, Rizzo being possibly from New York. 240 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000 That was the worst accent in the world. 241 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:14,000 That was bad, but to be fair, all I've got going through my head right now is the Muppets. 242 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,000 Rizzo sounds like a Muppet. 243 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Yeah, no, it is, isn't it? He's got the hook nose. 244 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Are you making a joke there? 245 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,000 That's not a nose joke on your accent. 246 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:39,000 No, Rizzo the rat is not the guy with the hook nose. He is the guy with the rat. 247 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,000 Oh no, the guy with the hook nose is Gonzo. 248 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:49,000 It genuinely wasn't a nose plug. It wasn't a nose plug, I swear. 249 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:58,000 Oh, we even on slowly. We then also had Izzy come in and talk. 250 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:05,000 You can let me get this joke out at least. If we were looking to plug your nose, we'd need bath plugs rather than nose plugs. 251 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Now we can move on. 252 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Right, now we get to talk about Izzy coming in and telling Sean Spears that no one likes him and no one wants him. 253 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000 No one needs him. 254 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:28,000 I mean Sean Spears seems to be on a bit of a crusade to try and save Rizzo and Izzy from DiAngelo. 255 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,000 DiAngelo seems to be coming up quite a lot Tony DiAngelo, or a US champion. 256 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:40,000 Basically, I don't know if Spears is holding some kind of candle for her or something of that notion. 257 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:49,000 I'm waiting for the story to progress so I can try and work out what's gone on previously by what happens, futurely. 258 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Well, we see that after Spears leaves, it's a case that... 259 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:07,000 ...Dame is telling Rizzo that she doesn't owe anything to DiAngelo anymore, her and DiAngelo a square. 260 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:15,000 So something's obviously gone on that we're... that me and you are unaware of at this point. 261 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:20,000 Sounds about right to be fair, but like I said, we've only been watching NXT for the last two weeks, 262 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,000 so we are still trying to catch up on a lot of things that you guys know that we don't. 263 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:32,000 So if we've missed something or you can explain something to us that we've missed, then feel free. 264 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000 That is definitely something we can do. 265 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:49,000 This promo seemed to pan again into something completely unrelated, which was Carmen Petrovic and Shanti Agones. 266 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Basically... 267 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000 Announcing that together? 268 00:28:53,000 --> 00:29:00,000 It was shamelessly flirting, and I think they've been maybe skirting around the issue a little bit up to this point maybe. 269 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,000 Dancing with the devil a little bit too much, they've finally managed to get it done. 270 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,000 Yeah, 100%, and that was how that promo ended. 271 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:14,000 So yeah, well done to them pair I suppose. I don't really know what to say, what more to say about that. 272 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000 And then it goes into the next promo. 273 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Yeah, so we had a VT recap of the NXT Women's Championship match from last week, which was Roxanne Perez versus Julia. 274 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:37,000 And a confirmation that Julia will be appearing, making her debut appearance as NXT Women's Champion next week. 275 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000 So it is the week of champions next week. 276 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Is she defending next week? Did I miss an announcement for that? 277 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:51,000 They didn't confirm anything that I'm aware of just at the moment, unless it's in some of my notes from later in the episode. 278 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000 We may circle back to that if I've come across it. 279 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Yeah, no, I'll have to tell them. Have a look at them. 280 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Then we went into an interview promo with the current WWE Tag Champs DIY, Tommaso Ciampa and Johnny Gargano, who were not in their rightful place, realistically. 281 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000 These guys aren't supposed to be in NXT, but... 282 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Well, I suppose they are NXT born and bred, wouldn't they? 283 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:25,000 Well, yeah, they are originally from NXT. They are some of the original brands. 284 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:33,000 They are two-time NXT Tag Champions, I believe Tommaso Ciampa corrected the interview week. 285 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,000 Yes, I believe she did. 286 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:54,000 But yeah, basically they are on site with NXT to come and view the main event, which is a Tag Team Championship match with the champions Bracciem versus OTN later in the year. 287 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Later in the card, citing them as some potential competition in the future. 288 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:12,000 So DIY aren't feeling any real threat from any of the current crop in the main roster, which could be their downfall, really. 289 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,000 No, definitely could be. 290 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:30,000 But moving swiftly on again from that is going into the third match. It was a women's tag team match with Unholy Union, which is Isla Dawn and Aloha Fire? 291 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,000 I think that was the thing. I didn't write them down, I must admit. 292 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:46,000 There was a lot of things being said at the time that I just couldn't really work out who was who. 293 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,000 I don't know about you. 294 00:31:51,000 --> 00:32:00,000 They've got like a really bad habit of bringing in one wrestler, disappearing off and talking about something else, and then bringing the other one in. 295 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,000 By the time I've kind of tried to adjust my notes and gone, right, so this is the match. Right, so this is the first team in, brilliant. 296 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,000 And then it's promo, right, I need to cross that out, put that promo in, write that person. 297 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,000 I forgot who that person's name was because I was walking and then I just got confidant. 298 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:28,000 So I must admit, I was running a little bit later watching it than I wanted to be, so it didn't really feel the need to go back and look at names that I can get for next week. 299 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:40,000 I always like to look up names, A, because I'm trying to learn the roster as I go, and it helps with possible storylines and things like that that I may come across. 300 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:45,000 So we had, yeah, On Holy Union versus The Meta Girls. 301 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:54,000 Now, I had to do some real research on this tag team, which was Jakara Jackson and Lash Legend. 302 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Now, The Meta Girls are actually part of an ongoing faction called The Meta 4, which were established back in 2023. 303 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:11,000 So they've been going a good old while as far as the faction goes, operating within NXT and basically making a nuisance of themselves. 304 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Isn't that the whole point of a faction? 305 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000 I mean, yeah, pretty much. 306 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:21,000 Most of them tend to make a nuisance of themselves, look at DX, for example. 307 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:30,000 True, true, nobody made as much of a nuisance of themselves, but they put their nuisance making some good use during the Monday Night Wars at one stage. 308 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Oh, yes they did. 309 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:43,000 I mean, most famously driving a tank up to the doors of WCW's Monday Night Wars taping and knocking on the door ever so politely. 310 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Can we do that? 311 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:54,000 But back to the match at hand, this one was a number one contenders match for the NXT Women's Tag Champions. 312 00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:14,000 The current NXT Tag Champions were not in attendance at this one, which is unusual, but I think they did allude to the fact that they were watching somewhere in the background where they might have been able to get a better view of what was going on. 313 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:20,000 My notes for this weren't very big to be fair. 314 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,000 I found what I was watching was quite even at the beginning of the section. 315 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Remember me saying that I found some of the middle of the episode got a little bit tedious. 316 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:38,000 This match for me was what pulled me completely out of this episode. 317 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:45,000 I didn't find it held many highlights that are not very much in it that made it too memorable for me. 318 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,000 But I know that you look at different things within the wrestling match. 319 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,000 So what were your thoughts and opinions on this one? 320 00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:03,000 I mean, I generally tend to find with this that it's a case that you could look at the two of us as a commentary team for WWE at this point. 321 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,000 I have a tendency to go by play by play and you're more of a color commentator. 322 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:16,000 You generally tend to, you'll focus on the overall match itself, whereas I'll dig into the detail a little bit more. 323 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000 Which, hey, it works. 324 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,000 It works. 325 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000 WWE. 326 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000 Welcome to take on a job if you've got one Triple H. 327 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000 Won't work an unstable somewhere. 328 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000 Oh, 100%. 329 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000 I mean, it's come out in the last few days. 330 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,000 Please, not NXT. 331 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:40,000 It's come out in the last few days that Corey Graves has decided the motion from what was it Monday night, Raw 2 NXT that just wasn't worth the. 332 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Yeah, he's not. 333 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000 With written on. 334 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:52,000 Well, you say that there's been a few there was a statement just before we started recording this section from the WWE high revs. 335 00:35:52,000 --> 00:36:04,000 The base he just said that if he's telling you it was a work, then he's probably going to build it into a work at the time he was definitely shooting. 336 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,000 So that'd be interesting to see. 337 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,000 I don't think unless they make an angle at the Corey Graves thing, we won't hear too much more about it. 338 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,000 They'll fire him and he'll go to social media and say something about it. 339 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,000 Or you'll just go to AEW and tell everybody exactly what's happened. 340 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,000 So it's all perfectly possible at this point. 341 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:36,000 But the less said about Corey Graves is he does not feature in this number at this women's tag team championship at this number one contenders match at all. 342 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000 But Meta Girls. 343 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Meta Girls seem to dominate quite early doors. 344 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000 They were the powerhouse. 345 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:49,000 Well, I say they lash legend was an absolute powerhouse in this match. 346 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:57,000 It seemed to be a bit untested metal from what I saw or what I was gathering from the commentary team. 347 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:11,000 It's kind of a case that lash hasn't had many matches in this and she's still a bit of an unproven element, but very much sort of very much got some got some good licks in on this one. 348 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:19,000 And one of the big highlights of this match for me was sort of a high risk totem diving move that. 349 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,000 Standing on the shoulders job. 350 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,000 Yeah, that was good. 351 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,000 Yes, standing on the shoulders and turning it into a cross body. 352 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,000 Some some aspects like that were were interesting. 353 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,000 Not seen anyone else try something like that for a while. 354 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000 It backfired on Meta Girls on this occasion. 355 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:41,000 It was a good concept, but it backfired giving unholy union a brief advantage. 356 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:48,000 But yeah, they just overall unholy union just didn't really start a chance against lash legend. 357 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:54,000 I didn't really see much of Jakara Jackson in this other than looking like she just sniffed a fart really. 358 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,000 That's what I was the overall get in. 359 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:06,000 Just got it. Jakara Jackson to me just seems to have a very severe case of resting bitch face. 360 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,000 Or resting stank face depending on where which way the winds blowing, I suppose. 361 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:22,000 But yeah, not really much to go on on this match met a girls came out with the wind, which puts them in the number one contenders spot for the NXT women's tag champs a match. 362 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:31,000 I'm sure we will see either in the next few weeks, possibly even left until the next NXT pay-per-view. 363 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Yeah, and I think it will probably more than likely be two weeks time at center stage in Atlanta. 364 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:48,000 Possibly or we could be waiting until vengeance day, which is taking place in Washington DC on the 15th of February. 365 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:58,000 That should be interesting. Something else is coming up on that day as well. I can't remember off the head what it is. 366 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,000 I mean, it's the day after Valentine's Day, so... 367 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Yeah, I mean today it's just because I've got work on Saturday. 368 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:13,000 It's the worst morning in history to be a hotel porter that has to clean rooms. 369 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:24,000 Oh, the old hospitality joke in the world. You don't work as a hotel cleaner on on February 15th. 370 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,000 Especially not if Bonnie Blue's been in your establishment. 371 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:35,000 Oh, well, I don't think you'd need to. I think you'd probably just be better off burning the room to be quite honest. 372 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:44,000 Yeah, let's not get bogged down in that. It sounds like enough people have been bogged down in that as it stands at the moment anyway. 373 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:56,000 But talking about bogged down, we get to talk with Ava again when she's busy watching Lexus King get the plate changed on his massive cup. 374 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,000 That he won last week at NXT's New Year's Evil. 375 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Yeah, it was a congratulatory moment that was sadly interrupted by the No Quarter Catch crew. 376 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,000 They were pegged us in the little bars that appear below their name. 377 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:24,000 But this was actually Charlie Dempsey, the former Heritage holder. 378 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,000 Who Lexus King beat last week? 379 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Yeah, and Ren Sinclair, who seemed to be ironing out more for a fight than Charlie Dempsey did. 380 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,000 I think Dempsey was pretty much content to just say, do you know what, actually? 381 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000 Fucking hell. 382 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:50,000 But Ren Sinclair was very much talking about the incidental contact that they had at the end of their match. 383 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:57,000 The head to the plums was never going to take that to the sting out of that. 384 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,000 And I think Ren Sinclair is stinging about that more than Dempsey was. 385 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,000 I mean, he'd take the rematch if he was going to do it. 386 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,000 It didn't seem too bothered. 387 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,000 And Ava seemed to agree after a little bit of cajoling. 388 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:25,000 Even that was cut short from a crash into the corrugated steel outside, where a parking lot brawling shoes between Tony D'Angelo and Ridge Pollard. 389 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:31,000 Right, I've said that I've struggled with NXT the last two weeks. 390 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000 I will throw this out there. 391 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,000 I want to see what they do with that. 392 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:47,000 I know I've got a rough idea what they do with it, but I can't wait to see what they do with it. 393 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:57,000 This actually has a little bit of excitement for me within this, because this feels like it's a new story. 394 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:05,000 So for me, this could be the entry to NXT that I need, and that could be Rich Holland and Tony D'Angelo. 395 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:12,000 I was hoping otherwise this is going to be a really short segment each week. 396 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000 But we went from that after that. 397 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:21,000 I'd been sort of broken up a little bit to match four, which was a singles match made earlier in the night. 398 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,000 Felaani Jordan, Corra Jade. 399 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,000 Felaani Jordan and Corra Jade. 400 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,000 You bastard, you got me too. 401 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:42,000 I'm just not feeling the reasoning behind Jordan's push at the moment. 402 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,000 I'm just going to throw this out there, because we've both just yawned. 403 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,000 If we got you, tell us. 404 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000 Oh, 100%. 405 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000 If we just got you. 406 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Did we get you yawned in too? 407 00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:06,000 Interestingly enough, since this was broadcast, it's come out as quite a wide-rallying thing, and you'll see a lot of content creating content around this deal. 408 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:15,000 But TNA and WWE have signed a multi-year talent exchange deal, which is absolutely huge. 409 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:25,000 I mean, WWE NXT and TNA did something similar earlier, sort of midway through last year, which was really successful for them. 410 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,000 I'm really glad they're going back to the well, and sort of going back to this. 411 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,000 The image I saw was rather interesting. 412 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:50,000 And I think it was the one I saw you, and it was the one of the hardy boys with the TNA tag titles around their shoulders, hinting they could make an appearance somewhere at some time to defend the TNA tag titles in WWE. 413 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,000 So, that being interesting. 414 00:43:52,000 --> 00:44:06,000 As we record this, so we're recording this on a Friday, this Sunday, so Sunday the 19th of January is TNA Genesis. 415 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:12,000 One of the matches on that card is the hardy boys defending their tag team championships. 416 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:22,000 The challenger's names escape me right at this moment, although I can see the vacant look on Rich's eyes tells me that he's doing a bit of research. 417 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000 I'll keep chatting. 418 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:38,000 The hardy boys are facing the Rascals, which is Trey Miguel and Zachary Wentz, for the tag team, or the TNA World Tag Team Championships. 419 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:46,000 Actually, I've looked at that Genesis card looks really interesting. 420 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:54,000 Well, I was about to say that the Genesis card I was looking at earlier on, and it is looking really good. 421 00:44:54,000 --> 00:45:04,000 I mean, we're big fans of one of the main events of Genesis, which is Nick Nemeth, who WWE fans will know by a slightly different name. 422 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000 Golf Ziggler? 423 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:13,000 Yes, 100%. And, I mean, Rich, do you believe? 424 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:18,000 Well, you've just got to say his name and he appears. 425 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:26,000 I think that there's going to be a lot of people saying that name at Genesis on a night. 426 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,000 It's Joe Hendry. 427 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:36,000 It certainly is. And a bit of backstory for anybody that doesn't know why Rich has broken down in his little girl giggles. 428 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:42,000 It's because he has basically overplayed Joe Hendry's entry music. 429 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,000 He does not enjoy it at all. 430 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,000 Shantel does not believe in Joe Hendry. 431 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,000 He does not believe in Joe Hendry at all. 432 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000 No, he does not. 433 00:45:53,000 --> 00:46:09,000 The reason I bought up the TNA multi-year deal is because one of the things we see during the Jordan vs Jade match this evening is the current TNA knockouts champion, 434 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:23,000 Masha Slamovich. It is in the crowd and I did see something that came out after NXT was broadcast circulated by WWE, I believe, 435 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:42,000 where there's a small meeting between Slamovich and Slamovich and Shawn Michaels backstage, which again, I think if you look back on it with the knockouts champion in situ on the night of NXT, 436 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:52,000 followed up by that little backstage promo that WWE posted out on social media, I think anybody could have predicted this multi-year deal with TNA. 437 00:46:52,000 --> 00:47:01,000 Yeah, so Masha Slamovich has got a match against Rosemary in a Clockwork Orange House of Fun match for the TNA knockouts world championship. 438 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:13,000 No, I have no idea what that is, but I am half tempted to give it a watch next week just for a few matches, because I really want to know what that is. 439 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:23,000 So there's so much that is just so intriguing about Genesis' card. 440 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:36,000 Unfortunately, it's not Genesis' card that we're actually supposed to be talking about at the moment. It is Jordan and Jade's match, but I think the fact that we've spent so long fixated on Genesis' card is... 441 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:43,000 ...shows us the quality of this Kalani Jordan vs. Korra Jade match to be fair. 442 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:58,000 Very evenly contested match, not sort of horrifically exciting. There was no heat built in, there was no build up to this match other than like the fifth promo of the evening where this match was, 443 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:11,000 the seeds for this match were sown. It very much had vibes of Miz and Sami Zayn from Raw, the first one I've ever heard in this episode. 444 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:22,000 And the finish was poor. The sky used to eye-rake and a push and a pin to be fair. 445 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:30,000 Korra Jade picked up the win on this one. I mean, Jordan towards the end of this match became slightly more interesting than that. 446 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:39,000 I saw her a bit more of a vicious streak, but it just wasn't worked to her advantage. It seemed to be that she sort of... the red mist descended. 447 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:46,000 She lost sight of everything, which is what allowed Korra Jade to pull off this eye-rake finish. 448 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:56,000 And yeah, just a very sort of poor match and I'm not going to wait until the end. That was my worst match of this card, pretty much. 449 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:07,000 Kalani Jordan vs. Korra Jade in a singles match just wasn't there for me. Not at all. 450 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:22,000 But yeah, we were then treated to a social media video that Eddie Thorpe made earlier in the evening and posted to his socials about celebrating the fact that he got a title shot next week. 451 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,000 I don't think we're doing much good, but, you know, let him have his fun, I suppose. 452 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:38,000 It'd be interesting to know if you recall... it was difficult for me to tell from what I saw, but I'd be interested to know if he did that before... because he seemed to be out in a parking lot somewhere. 453 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:50,000 I don't know if that meant that he was out in the same parking lot that D'Angelo and D'Angelo was having a brawl in earlier in the episode, but... 454 00:49:50,000 --> 00:50:09,000 Yeah, we were then treated to another backstage promo ahead of the tag title match where we saw Fraxium, Nathan Frazier and Axium backstage being approached by Josh Briggs and Yoshiki Inamaru. 455 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:22,000 Which kind of stopped my fitness with a bit of a back-end brawl between Briggs and Inamaru and BTM. Fraxium kind of didn't really have much to say or do with it. 456 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:33,000 They disappeared and kind of went to do their warm-up, I suppose. There was everyone else that tended to get involved and kind of got on with it. 457 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:47,000 Yeah, and this sort of... I think this may have set up a possible feud in the future, potentially. But I'm not sure who the feud was between, because there didn't seem to be a clear cut direction to it. 458 00:50:47,000 --> 00:51:04,000 Yes, OTM and Frazier and Inamaru were the ones brawling by the end of it, but I'm not seeing the direction in that for it. 459 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:28,000 We were also, following this, we were told about, or given a small VT about Vengeance Day in Washington, which is the next PLA. We were also told that Trick Williams had put out a statement that he's considering his next move, which I suppose means that he may be at the NXT title picture for a little while. 460 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:44,000 Yeah, and this sort of fed into the main event, the men's NXT Tag Team Championship match between Fremont, Bronco, Nima and Lucian Price versus the current champs, Fraxium, who were in the promo beforehand. 461 00:51:44,000 --> 00:52:05,000 And do you know what? I wasn't mad at this match. It wasn't a great match. I'm not saying it was five stars. The Observer's going to be writing about this for years to come sort of match, but for a main event on a sort of a so-so card, it was decent. 462 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:24,000 It was alright. It warmed up towards the end. You know, it was quite a fast-paced crowd, a fast-paced crowd, a fast-paced start to the match. So we're trying to hype the crowd up a bit, which not surprising after that Kalani Jordan match, but by the grass. 463 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:45,000 Talking about the crowd, you had DIY in there, the current SmackDown Tag Team Champions just keeping an eye on what's kind of going on. And I suppose what could be, prospectively, you know, both of these teams could be on main roster by the end of the year and they're a potential threat to the straps around their shoulders. 464 00:52:45,000 --> 00:53:00,000 I will be honest, from what I saw of Fraxium, as much as they are the current Tag Team, the current and they defended their Tag Team Championships admirably during this match, especially as they were kept trying to keep the pace as quick as possible. 465 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:20,000 You've got OTM, I have more of a ground-up and style. We're just trying to keep it as slow as they possibly could. And we're succeeding up to a point. But I mean, Fraxium had some kind of high-flying defensive offense thing going, which I couldn't quite wrap my head around. 466 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:31,000 I'm not seeing them as main roster material. I think they've reached their ceiling, is that what they would say? 467 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:49,000 Yeah, I don't think they'll move further past this, regrettably, because they're too very capable performers. But yeah, maybe as singles they'll make their way up to the main roster, but I just don't think as a Tag Team they've got it in them to go much further. 468 00:53:49,000 --> 00:54:04,000 But yeah, the OTM vs Fraxium match was my match of the night. We've still got one more bit to go through, which was the in-ring promo for Roxanne Perez, which had been teased throughout the night. 469 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:13,000 Now, this is where it turns into a little bit of a monologue, because I know you're not terribly well up on this promo towards the end. 470 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:33,000 No, I was cooking dinner and this bit was on and wasn't really concentrating, didn't really have much of a time to go back to it. So I made sure I got through all the matches and the majority of the promos, but I didn't get to finish this week's episode off in time to be able to get this bit done. 471 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:41,000 This is where we blend into a little bit of a segment called Adam's Story Time, where Adam tells Rich all about the promo. 472 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,000 Story Time with Adam? 473 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:55,000 We've had CBBC's Bedtime Stories with Cody Rhodes, so why not Story Time with Adam? 474 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000 Yeah, I know. 475 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:05,000 There we go. BBC, if you need someone to read a book for you, add our keys available. 476 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,000 100% and you show me the money and I'll do it. 100%. 477 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:16,000 So, just one thing, Stay Away from Children's Hospital Awards for about 20 years, right? We don't want any accusations to his lead. 478 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:22,000 Yes, I definitely won't fix anything. 479 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:38,000 Right, but yeah, basically Perez was out recapping a tenure as NXT Women's Champion, basically saying how by the very virtue of her being champion, she raised the bar on what NXT Women's Division was. 480 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:45,000 NXT Women's Division seems quite heavily featured within NXT programming over the last few weeks. 481 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,000 Yeah, it does. 482 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:56,000 She was very gracious in defeat, wasn't saying that Julia blindsided her or used any dirty tactics. 483 00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:03,000 We both watched the match from last week. There definitely wasn't any dirty tactics involved. 484 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:13,000 But the biggest, I mean, I think this is leading into a bit of a Perez heel turn, possibly. 485 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:20,000 Or maybe even a main roster elevation. I've got a feeling she may well be headed to SmackDown. 486 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:32,000 The reason I think she may well be headed to SmackDown is because we had a surprise entrant in this little in-ring promo when Bayley made an appearance. 487 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,000 Ahead of a SmackDown Women's Championship. 488 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,000 PVL Bayley's on NXT again. 489 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:43,000 Yeah, Bayley made a triumphant and well received return to NXT. 490 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,000 Oh, nice accent. 491 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:53,000 Just trying to give some sage advice really, just said, look, rocks out, it's not the end of the world. 492 00:56:53,000 --> 00:57:02,000 Regardless of what you think, it's kind of a case that the women's division will continue rising regardless of whether you're wearing the belt or not. 493 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:10,000 And yeah, we had the beginnings of a fight breakout by the end of the episode. 494 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:18,000 Basically between Bayley and Perez, which is why I've got an odd feeling we're going to see Perez elevated to main roster soon. 495 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:23,000 She's going to pursue a feud with Bayley. 496 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,000 Being an interesting one. 497 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:39,000 I mean, Perez could be ending up with a skyrocket sort of ascent to main roster where she could end up immediately becoming number one contender for the SmackDown Women's Championship. 498 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,000 Yeah, that's it. 499 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:49,000 I mean, I've already, as we've gone through, I've given my match of my worst and best matches. 500 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,000 Rich, any standouts? 501 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:58,000 I think between for me that I'm stuck between two for the worst match of the night. 502 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:08,000 I think it's metaphor versus Unholy Union, or it was the Kalani Jordan Corridor match and I'm probably going to swing more towards Kalani Jordan. 503 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,000 Match of the evening for me. 504 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,000 I don't know, it's a difficult one to be fair. 505 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:27,000 I'm probably going to go with, probably going to go with the Stephanie Baker Shotzi match to be fair. 506 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:32,000 Okay, you didn't tell me anything that I wasn't expecting there realistically. 507 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,000 I don't know, you weren't overly enamoured with the main event of the evening. 508 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:43,000 That ended up being my best match and yeah, I think we sort of agree on the worst match of the evening. 509 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:48,000 Overall, I've got to admit the last two weeks of watching NXT, my biggest frustration with it all, 510 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:53,000 aside from not knowing any of the storylines that have happened before the NXT era, 511 00:58:53,000 --> 00:59:02,000 or the Netflix era, sorry, is that all of the production value goes to Raw and SmackDown. 512 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,000 And I'm not going to sit here and say that they shouldn't have that production value, 513 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:15,000 but NXT, if you're not getting the love they need, then it's not a case of bad writing or anything like that. 514 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:21,000 We spent two promos and half a match at the beginning with no commentary. 515 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:30,000 And there've just been over New Year's Evil and this week's NXT, just so many little things. 516 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:40,000 And again, this is where I have a bit of a penchant for the smaller details, 517 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,000 which can really disengage with the programme. 518 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:51,000 And some of the technical errors that they've made in just the broadcast and the way that its package just seem to be painful, 519 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:56,000 I'm finding it difficult to sort of connect to a degree. 520 00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:01,000 Yeah, I'd agree with that. Right, I think I'm finished with NXT. What about you? 521 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:08,000 Yeah, we've run out of programme for NXT, so let's move on. Let's move on to SmackDown. 522 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,000 That we can. 523 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000 Well, that's it from me. 524 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,000 And from me too. Thank you all for watching. 525 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:21,000 Remember, if you've enjoyed this episode and want to be notified when another one goes live, 526 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:27,000 you can click subscribe and click the notification bell to get notified every time we upload. 527 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:32,000 Remember, like the video and leave any feedback you have in the comments. 528 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,000 And we'll see you next time on Finishers and Factions. 529 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:52,000 Goodbye.