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Thinking about full -time RV living? We're breaking

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down the pros and cons from stationary setups

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to nomadic life on the move. Avoid budget pitfalls,

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decide if a home base is right for you, and learn

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how to stay prepared for emergencies. Plus, the

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latest RV news and an RV pro tip you won't want

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to miss. Welcome to the Restless Nomads, the

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ultimate RV show for modern -day rubber tramps

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and weekend warriors alike. Whether you're chasing

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sunsets full -time, savoring seasonal escapes,

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or just hitting the road for a quick weekend

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getaway, this is your go -to show for tips, tricks,

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and tales from the road. Join us as we dive into

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everything RV. Choosing the right rig, surviving

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life on wheels, and navigating the highs and

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lows of life on the move. From towables to Well,

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thanks for joining us again on another episode

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of The Restless Nomads. Check us out online at

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TheRestlessNomads .com. That's TheRestlessNomads

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.com. Let's jump right in to some RV news. Here's

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your RV news update. National Park campgrounds

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are seeing record bookings this year. The spring

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and summer travel season is quickly approaching

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and popular national parks are already fully

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booked well in advance. So if you're planning

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on visiting Yellowstone or Yosemite or Glacier

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this year, you better get on it. But you might

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be relying on waiting for those cancellations

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maybe next year. Also, a new tax law could affect

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full -timers. A proposed nomad tax in some states

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aims to impose property -style taxes on long

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-term RV dwellers who don't maintain a permanent

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residence. Man, every good thing that comes along,

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the government has to step in and try to ruin

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it, don't they? The details are still unfolding,

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but full -timers should keep an eye out for these

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legal changes. I sure hope they don't do something

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that foolish. That's really inhibiting your freedom.

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Also, lithium battery prices are dropping. That's

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good news for us RVers. You know, lithium battery

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prices were out of reach for most folks even

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10 years ago, but now they've fallen 20 % this

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year. So that's making solar powered and off

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-grid camping more affordable than ever. There's

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your RV news. Let's jump into today's topic.

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So today we're talking about the many flavors

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of full -time RVing and also the pros and cons

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of full -time RVing. So if you're thinking about

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full -time RVing, you know, there's so many YouTube

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channels that paint this as just this glamorous,

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wonderful, adventurous, luxurious lifestyle.

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And it has its upsides, but there are some downsides,

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too. Now, there are a couple different types

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of full -time RVers. There's the stationary full

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-timers. Usually these are folks that just can't

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afford a Sticks and Bricks house or something

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like that. Maybe they're on Social Security or...

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that kind of thing. You see this a lot where

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someone buys an RV and they put it in a park

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and they live in that RV but it never moves.

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It just stays right there. It doesn't matter

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if the tires go flat. No big deal because they

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ain't ever moving it, right? So essentially it's

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just like living in a mobile home park with a

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smaller mobile home. It ain't moving, right?

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Can be a good idea if you need to downsize in

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space and in budget, although RV parks per month

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are going up. For example, we stayed at one that

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had a monthly rate of $275 about 10 years ago,

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and I think it's over $600 nowadays. So just

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be aware of that. Still cheaper than renting

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an apartment, but that's a lot of money for a

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parking space and an electrical connection, if

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you ask me. Good for folks that are trying to

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save money and they still need to be near work,

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family, medical care, that kind of thing. That

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can come with some challenges, you know, if you

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have surgery or something moving around in a

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small space like that. Can be good or can be

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bad depending on the situation. Some people do

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it just because they like the simplicity of RV

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living without the constant movement. Here's

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a couple of the downsides. Some campgrounds limit

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long -term stays and you may end up paying high

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monthly rent without ever really traveling. Most

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RV parks offer a monthly rate and those are the

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ones that you want to seek out. Another downside

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to this which is kind of dumb in my opinion Sometimes

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the RV parks will have age limits for the RVs.

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Most of them require the RVIA sticker on the

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side so you can't bring a school bus or a converted

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cargo trailer or something like that. And a lot

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of them have gone to where your RV must be 10

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years old or newer. Which that can be a serious

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challenge if you're operating on a budget in

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the first place and you buy a little bit older

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RV. You know there are several RVs that are 20

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years old that look great and everything works

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in them. But some of these parks require 10 years

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or newer which I think is kind of bananas. I

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mean it's an RV park. Get over yourself right.

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Okay, second type of full -timer is the more

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traditional and the kind that you see on YouTube

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all over the place That's the nomadic full -timer.

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It's a little bit more adventurous and I would

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just say entertaining because you're seeing new

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places you're traveling It's the the true wanderers

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RVers who rarely stay in one place for too long

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and they move from state parks to BLM land to

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campgrounds the truck stops to RV parks to you

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name it, right? And everybody has their own preferences.

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Now one of the biggest pros is that you can pretty

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much go wherever you want. So if you don't like

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where you're at, you can pick up and move and

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you're somewhere new and you're constantly exploring

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new places. It can be affordable if you do it

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correctly, but it is more than likely going to

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cost you more than If you were to stay stationary

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in an RV park or something like that now some

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people Depending on how much you travel really

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affects what you should budget for this, right?

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Some people will travel to a place and they'll

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stay for two or three months or they'll stay

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for a couple weeks And that can help as far as

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affordability goes If you stay a little bit longer

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and it also gives you a little more time to be

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able to explore and travel days are just stressful.

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So putting a little bit of distance between you,

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I mean between your travel days can help out

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and make it more fun. You just kind of have to

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determine by experience and also how much you

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want to pay for gas, how often you want to move.

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My wife and I have found that about one week

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is our sweet spot. We can stay in a place for

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about a week and then we want to move on. Some

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people stay for a month. Some people stay for

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a couple weeks. Some people stay for a season.

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Just depends. For us, we start getting kind of

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antsy after about a week and we want to move

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on. Now, if you're a full -time RVer and you

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don't have a permanent home base, there are some

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things that you have to think about. There's

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some risks that come along with that adventure.

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So let's say that you're a full -time RVer and

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you sold your home. Well, if you get into an

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accident or your truck breaks down, you need

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to have a plan because you don't have any safety

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net there. Now there are some things that you

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can do to kind of mitigate these risks if you're

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full -time and you have no backup place to go.

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First and foremost, have good insurance. In fact,

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you can buy insurance that is kind of catered

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towards full -timing so that if something happens

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to your RV, your insurance company will actually

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pay for a hotel, for a certain amount of nights,

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or even a rental car should you need that while

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your RV is in the shop getting fixed. So good

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insurance is a must if you're full -time you

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want to have the most protection you can get

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also on the topic of insurance Make sure that

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you have comprehensive insurance that way when

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your Truck is disconnected from the trailer if

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you have a towed rig or if your Motorhome is

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parked with the engine off in a campground and

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a tree falls on it or something like that You're

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covered you want to be combing your policy making

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sure that you're covered for Every instance that

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you can and if you're not covered by something

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asks what it will ask what it would cost to get

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it covered Because like I said you want the maximum

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coverage you can get And typically RV insurance

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is not that expensive now that brings me to this

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so your automobile insurance Like let's say you

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get automobile insurance for your truck usually

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covers the trailer while you're in tow The same

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goes for a motor home. If you have automobile

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insurance on a motor home and you wreck the motor

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home, then you're usually covered. Now if you're

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at a campground and you forget to chalk the wheels

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and the motor home rolls off the cliff but the

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engine's off, your insurance is gonna try to

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weasel out of that. So just be aware of that.

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And there are most of the time you buy specific

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policies that cover the RV when it's not in motion.

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So things to think about there and always a good

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idea to have as much protection to give yourself

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some peace of mind And and also, you know if

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you break down and you have to take it to the

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shop You have some options there that you won't

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be coming out of your pocket I've got two more

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items here for some added peace of mind. So another

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thing you want to have is an emergency fund And

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you usually want to have enough in this like

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if something catastrophic happens Let's say you

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your engine throws a rod or something. You can

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cover the cost of that Because insurance won't

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be covering that right they may cover the cost

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of the hotel in the rental car while the trucks

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in the shop Or your motor homes in the shop getting

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fixed, but you want to have enough to cover that

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It's a good idea to have that saved up before

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you even set out and as you move down the road

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This should be separate from your maintenance

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fund But when you have to use it you need to

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immediately start building that back up if you

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can Okay, so emergency fund maintenance fund

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big two and then you can save a ton of headache

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and money if you start learning how to fix little

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things on your RV by yourself. When you take

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it to the shop, you're going to have to pay labor.

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That's really expensive. I think on average about

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two hundred dollars an hour. It's crazy. And

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you have to wait for them to fix it, which usually

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means that you have to wait for them to order

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parts and everything else. It's a real pain in

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the butt. Whereas if you learn how to do it,

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you can fix it. on some sweat equity, no paying

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for labor, just the cost of parts. And usually

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when you set out to fix something that breaks

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and things will break in an RV, they always do.

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No matter what RV you get, you're going to have

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things that break. It's the nature of the beast.

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Learning how to fix those things usually teaches

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you more about other systems in that RV where

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when the next problem arises, you'll be better

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equipped to address it. YouTube University is

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the best place for learning how to fix problems

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with your RV in my experience. Also join a bunch

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of the Facebook groups for your RV specifically,

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your make and model, and you will oftentimes

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find problems that other people are having that

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have preventative measures that you can take

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right now to avoid those problems or just have

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them in mind and know what to do should they

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arise. Okay, we'll look more into that further

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on down the line here. Then we have hybrid full

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-timers and my wife and I have made our way to

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this. We did full -time RVing for a whole year

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when we were looking for a house and then we

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bought a house. Now we're hybrid and I don't

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even know if you'd consider us full -timers necessarily

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right now, but we have periods where we go full

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-time. So we'll go for extended trips. Some RVers

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own a home. Some of them even have an RV lot

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that they own. You can actually buy an RV lot.

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The last time I looked around at them, they were

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going for about $40 ,000. Depending on the area,

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it'll be higher or lower. But you actually buy

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that little bit of property. It can be a site

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that you buy in a park, or you can buy property

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and install hookups on that property and an RV

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pad. and then it's yours. So you always have

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a place to bring the RV back to. Now, that doesn't

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really solve the problem. If your RV catches

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on fire, where do you go? Right. So have that

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in mind. But it's a good idea if you can afford

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it to have a place to kind of retreat to in case

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your RV breaks down or your truck breaks down.

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A lot of people, my wife and I included rent

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out portion like a guest bedroom or something

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like that of their home when you're on the road

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for an extended period of time and that can help

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cover some of the costs of owning the home and

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and having the electricity on and the gas and

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the Garbage service and all that you know if

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you're just shelling out money for those services

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but not really using them that can be kind of

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frustrating. So maybe consider renting it out

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to a traveling nurse or something like that.

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We prefer the short -term rentals. They're only

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there for six weeks or so and then they're moving

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on. That way when we come home if they're still

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there we don't have long to wait before they

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leave. But that's kind of one of the ways that

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you can enjoy the best of both worlds. Having

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a home base makes full -time RVing feel a lot

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less risky because if anything happens Let's

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say you're down in Arizona and your truck breaks

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down or your RV catches on fire Worst case scenario

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you jump on a Greyhound or on the Amtrak or in

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an airplane and come home And you have a place

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to lay your head that night, which is pretty

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nice So those are things to consider Well hey,

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let's go to a break. We'll get into some more

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challenges of full -time RVing just after the

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RV pro tip. Always have a backup plan when it

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comes to reservations before heading to a new

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destination, especially if it's far away. Always

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research a backup spot just in case your campground

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is full. or you get double booked or something

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like that, especially if you're going there and

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you're relying on first come first serve and

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you plan on showing up later in the day. Holy

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smokes, especially if it's a weekend. We worked

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a season at Lake Cachisse in Washington and they

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didn't allow anyone into the campground before

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two o 'clock and there were literally hundreds

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of cars lined up all looking for a campsite.

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By 145 in the afternoon and they were just lined

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up outside the campground Waiting to get in and

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you know, of course the people in the back of

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the line oftentimes we had to turn them away

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because the campground was full at that point

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and There was just no more sites available. So

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having a backup site, even if it's a Walmart

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or a Cracker Barrel or a truck stop maybe some

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public land nearby Having that plan B is going

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to save you a lot of stress. One of the things

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that you can always do when it comes to reservations,

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let's say you're wanting to go to the Oregon

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coast in the summertime and you can't get a reservation.

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Well, if you're Say you're camping over on some

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public land in central oregon or something. You

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can check for last minute cancellations because

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So many people change their plans all the time

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and those cancellations will pop up Be in contact

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with the campground if you can over the phone.

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That's probably the best way Otherwise, you're

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kind of relying on the internet and hitting that

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refresh screen Refreshing the screen looking

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for those cancellations Now, uh, let's get into

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some Nightmares of last minute reservations.

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If you're a weekend warrior, no big deal, right?

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If you go to make a reservation and you find

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that the campground is full, well, no big deal.

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You just enjoy the air conditioning that weekend

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and you stay inside and stay home. Or you look

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elsewhere, right? Somewhere relatively close

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to home. Now if you're full -time RV in and you're

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staying in a Walmart parking lot and they give

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you 12 hours to stay there and then you have

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to move on, that can be a little bit frustrating

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if you are trying to find your next place to

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go and everything you're looking at is booked.

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So it's really important to plan ahead especially

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for popular areas if you're near national parks

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and things like that. These places sell out so

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fast you got a book well in advance and what

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I usually do what I'm kind of planning our itinerary

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our trip I look at the most popular places that

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we're passing through and we want to stay in

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I book those first and Because you kind of have

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to have some flexibility with dates So book the

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hardest to get ones first and then book the easier

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ones around that. That's a little pro tip for

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you Just a sideline mentioned here February 2025

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I went to book a site at Silver Falls State Park

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in Oregon, which is Just east of Salem and it's

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pretty popular February they were already sold

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out couldn't get one night in July. That's how

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bad it is sometimes Okay, so when you're looking

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for these backup sites Good idea to be looking

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at public land and be able to boondock if you

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have to. Now in the dead of summer, if you don't

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have a generator or you don't have enough battery

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bank to run the air conditioner, that can be

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a huge consideration, right? I know in the summertime

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we like our 30 amp power because we want that

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air conditioning going. But public land, BLM,

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National Forest, All the ones that allow you

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to stay and do what they call disperse camping.

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And you also have to think about accessibility

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when it comes to getting an RV in there. You

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want to be looking at the satellite views on

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Google Maps and making sure, hey, is this even

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going to be feasible? Because a lot of public

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land has disperse camping allowed for up to 14

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days, but maybe you can't even get into that

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area to camp. Now typically with public land

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a good rule of thumb is if you don't see any

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signs saying no camping you're allowed to stay

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there. Do your research but typically the length

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of stay is limited to 14 days which is pretty

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generous. You can also look at Google Maps or

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RV Trip Wizards or Allstays or one of the many

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apps and look for other places in the area. Call

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around, see if they have any availability should

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your first option not work out. So one of the

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biggest downsides to full -time RVing is that

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you don't have a permanent home if you're not

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a hybrid person but you're actually on the road

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and that is 100 % full -time your home. Now things

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that happen if your RV gets stolen, that's one

00:23:00.890 --> 00:23:04.869
of the worst things right it breaks down or Maybe

00:23:04.869 --> 00:23:07.349
it burns to the ground. It's going to leave you

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in a situation where you're scrambling for shelter.

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So again that emergency fund for Situations just

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like that Very important and I'll hit it again

00:23:21.009 --> 00:23:25.160
really good RV insurance not expensive You should

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get the maximum coverage you can and then also

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consider having a storage unit or a home base

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to keep some valuables another Solution to this

00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:40.279
if you're full -time RVing especially with documents

00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:44.400
they sell You can either get like a fire safe,

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which is a good thing To have and you can keep

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your passports and your birth certificate social

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security cards that kind of thing in the fire

00:23:51.299 --> 00:23:57.059
safe Those are kind of bulky You know if it's

00:23:57.059 --> 00:23:59.579
you don't want something huge for an RV and you

00:23:59.579 --> 00:24:05.380
don't want anything very heavy So they sell these

00:24:05.380 --> 00:24:08.980
fireproof bags My wife and I bought one of those

00:24:08.980 --> 00:24:11.619
and it's just like this document bag. That's

00:24:11.619 --> 00:24:15.140
fireproof And it's rated, you know, it can burn

00:24:15.140 --> 00:24:17.380
for an hour or something like that, but have

00:24:17.380 --> 00:24:20.460
that Buy one of those bags with all your documents

00:24:20.460 --> 00:24:24.519
in it and have it in a place where you can grab

00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.119
it and get out the door and make that a part

00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:31.319
of your egress strategy. Grab your paperwork

00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:33.960
as you make your way out the door. If at all

00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:36.460
possible, keep it in a location where it's easy

00:24:36.460 --> 00:24:40.319
to grab. Maybe not for a visitor, but somewhere

00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:42.259
where you know you can get to it quick and get

00:24:42.259 --> 00:24:44.519
out a window or a door if something should happen.

00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:48.460
Let's talk a little bit about things that can

00:24:48.460 --> 00:24:50.680
drain your bank account if you're full -time

00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:53.420
RVing, especially if you're brand new to it.

00:24:53.740 --> 00:24:59.160
So most people don't even think about the cost

00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:03.319
of movement. Gasoline is expensive. RVs are typically

00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.380
not efficient. So think about that and maybe

00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:10.119
you're getting on line and you're planning out

00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:13.000
your first maiden voyage and you have a plan

00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:17.519
to Drive 300 miles every day 400 miles every

00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:19.920
day and you're gonna stay in a different RV park

00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.839
Things are gonna rack up pretty quick because

00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:27.619
you're paying a lot of money in gas. So you need

00:25:27.619 --> 00:25:31.259
to Be cognizant of that Not only does that add

00:25:31.259 --> 00:25:33.720
a lot of stress because driving an RV any kind

00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:37.359
of RV is Nowhere near as relaxing as driving

00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:39.839
your Honda Civic down the road. It can be a little

00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:42.799
bit stressful Now there is the rule of threes

00:25:43.049 --> 00:25:47.190
My wife and I have kind of adopted this and typically

00:25:47.190 --> 00:25:50.970
here's the rule of threes. We won't travel any

00:25:50.970 --> 00:25:54.450
more than three hours on a travel day typically.

00:25:54.450 --> 00:25:57.990
Now we make some exceptions especially for the

00:25:57.990 --> 00:26:01.130
last leg on the way home. Usually that'll be

00:26:01.130 --> 00:26:04.589
a little bit longer because we're motivated to

00:26:04.589 --> 00:26:08.069
get home. So not that big of a deal. Maximum

00:26:08.069 --> 00:26:13.059
three hours drive time or 300 miles. This is

00:26:13.059 --> 00:26:17.059
totally personal preference, but it works if

00:26:17.059 --> 00:26:19.819
you follow this rule You'll find that there'll

00:26:19.819 --> 00:26:23.380
be a lot less stress and you'll enjoy your time

00:26:23.380 --> 00:26:25.500
a lot more and then when you get where you're

00:26:25.500 --> 00:26:29.640
going Don't move for three days. So three hours

00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.160
300 miles and three days of rest in between travel

00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.119
days makes for Much easier and that's three days

00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.339
minimum Rest between travel days makes for much

00:26:40.339 --> 00:26:44.299
more enjoyable and easier RVing trips if you

00:26:44.299 --> 00:26:47.319
ask me and many others. I'm not the inventor

00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:50.279
of the rule of threes. I got that from other

00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:54.380
folks on YouTube Now another big pitfall that

00:26:54.380 --> 00:26:59.220
most new full -timers have Especially if they're

00:26:59.220 --> 00:27:00.819
going to be on the road for extended periods

00:27:00.819 --> 00:27:03.279
of time You know, even if you're a hybrid you

00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:05.599
own a home, but you're gonna be out for a couple

00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:09.490
months on a trip or If you buy an RV, sell your

00:27:09.490 --> 00:27:11.329
home, and you're going to be out there 100 %

00:27:11.329 --> 00:27:14.670
of the time, you want to avoid being in the vacation

00:27:14.670 --> 00:27:20.250
mindset. And I say this, but I know that each

00:27:20.250 --> 00:27:23.549
and every person is going to go through some

00:27:23.549 --> 00:27:25.549
degree of this before they figure it out. They

00:27:25.549 --> 00:27:30.099
have to experience it. But a lot of RVers burn

00:27:30.099 --> 00:27:32.720
through their savings quickly because it feels

00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.740
like a vacation, right? When you're traveling

00:27:34.740 --> 00:27:38.640
and you're excited, you're going to go eat out

00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.700
a lot. You're going to be buying all kinds of

00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:44.460
souvenirs because you're excited about all the

00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:47.039
new places that you're seeing. It's natural.

00:27:47.859 --> 00:27:50.289
This is your new normal though. It's not going

00:27:50.289 --> 00:27:53.069
to be a vacation. The sooner that you shift to

00:27:53.069 --> 00:27:56.210
a budget, budget conscious, sustainable travel

00:27:56.210 --> 00:28:01.289
style, the better. Now let's talk about some

00:28:01.289 --> 00:28:04.789
stays that may be a little easier on your wallet.

00:28:05.130 --> 00:28:08.069
So we did an episode on the thousand trails membership

00:28:08.069 --> 00:28:11.589
that offer that offers long term stays for pretty

00:28:11.589 --> 00:28:14.769
affordable, especially if you are full time or

00:28:14.769 --> 00:28:18.920
going to be traveling extensively. Compared to

00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:21.980
regular RV parks and I did a budget breakdown

00:28:21.980 --> 00:28:24.940
how much it would cost per night On a certain

00:28:24.940 --> 00:28:27.660
trip using our thousand trails membership. It

00:28:27.660 --> 00:28:30.680
can be a great option one of the things that

00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:33.599
a lot of people enjoy doing and My wife and I

00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:36.059
are not quite like this, but a lot of people

00:28:36.059 --> 00:28:39.900
love it is boondocking on public lands That's

00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:43.019
free, but you're you don't have any hookups and

00:28:43.019 --> 00:28:47.880
generally even if you do have A good solar system

00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:51.500
and a good battery bank or you're running generators

00:28:51.500 --> 00:28:54.599
and you got plenty of fuel you have some limitations

00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.960
mainly water Where you get in your water because

00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:01.500
you can only take so much out with you also gasoline

00:29:01.500 --> 00:29:05.160
for in for the generators and then the biggest

00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:08.500
and Probably the one that runs out the fastest

00:29:08.500 --> 00:29:12.619
is your black tank when that black tank is full

00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.880
Where are you going to dump it? That is more

00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:21.819
than likely going to be your time of stay limitation.

00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:24.940
The one thing that makes you move on to go find

00:29:24.940 --> 00:29:29.180
a dump station. Now another great way to save

00:29:29.180 --> 00:29:32.440
money if you're a full -timer and even make money

00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:35.259
is by work camping and we did an episode on that

00:29:35.259 --> 00:29:37.819
too. You can stay an entire season at a campground

00:29:37.819 --> 00:29:41.029
and get paid to clean bathrooms and check people

00:29:41.029 --> 00:29:45.430
in and collect camping fees and so forth. And

00:29:45.430 --> 00:29:49.390
we discussed in that episode the two models here.

00:29:49.410 --> 00:29:52.289
Some work camping jobs are volunteer only. So

00:29:52.289 --> 00:29:56.470
you just get your space and some are paid. I

00:29:56.470 --> 00:29:59.549
would encourage you never to accept a volunteer

00:29:59.549 --> 00:30:03.250
position without hookups because that is a really

00:30:03.250 --> 00:30:06.730
bad deal. And the more people that accept those,

00:30:07.130 --> 00:30:11.930
it's communicating to places that hire these

00:30:11.930 --> 00:30:15.089
folks that that is acceptable. And it simply

00:30:15.089 --> 00:30:17.950
is not. If there are no hookups, they aren't

00:30:17.950 --> 00:30:20.029
bringing anything to the table other than a parking

00:30:20.029 --> 00:30:23.609
spot. You should not be volunteering there. Otherwise,

00:30:23.710 --> 00:30:26.170
you're really making it more difficult for everyone

00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:29.829
else involved. In fact, I have I have a bit of

00:30:29.829 --> 00:30:35.210
an issue with volunteer programs, period. Hey,

00:30:35.210 --> 00:30:37.319
if it works for you, then great. I don't take

00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.119
the jobs because I think that we bring value

00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.480
to the table as work campers and it should be

00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.019
compensated. The more people that accept volunteer

00:30:48.019 --> 00:30:52.000
positions, the more these folks that hire these

00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.380
people are going to see that and go, oh, we can

00:30:54.380 --> 00:30:56.460
do this on a volunteer basis. Let's get rid of

00:30:56.460 --> 00:31:00.799
the paying positions. And that is going to be

00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.960
bad for a lot of work campers in the long run.

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now sometimes volunteering can be okay if Everything

00:31:10.660 --> 00:31:14.140
else is to your expectation Like the Oregon State

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Parks when you volunteer You're not required

00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:21.119
to do heavy lifting and cleaning bathrooms and

00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.339
things and they only ask for a commitment of

00:31:23.339 --> 00:31:25.500
one month at a time That seems like a pretty

00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:28.980
good deal. But if an organization wants you to

00:31:28.980 --> 00:31:34.259
volunteer 40 hours a week to clean Crappy bathrooms

00:31:34.259 --> 00:31:37.819
and spend six months there doing that and all

00:31:37.819 --> 00:31:40.079
they're going to provide you is a parking space

00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:43.460
without any hookups You are getting screwed my

00:31:43.460 --> 00:31:47.920
friends Okay, we we have to address this one

00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.160
of the biggest problems with full -time RV living

00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:57.019
is the homelessness stigma Just because you live

00:31:57.019 --> 00:31:59.160
in an RV doesn't necessarily mean you're homeless.

00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.539
Now it really gets down to semantics. How do

00:32:02.539 --> 00:32:06.559
you define homeless, right? But typically, the

00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.880
stigma of homelessness is associated with drug

00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:13.140
use, mental illness, unhygienic living conditions,

00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.319
that kind of thing. Now let's be real. There

00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:19.299
are full -time RVers struggling with homelessness.

00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:24.599
I think it's a separate symptom. of a bigger

00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:29.180
issue. But then you have full -time RVers that

00:32:29.180 --> 00:32:34.079
work every day remotely, retirees. You have adventurous

00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.240
families living that way by choice. And I think

00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:39.920
that's a huge factor. You know, are they doing

00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:47.460
it by choice? Are they traveling by choice? And

00:32:47.460 --> 00:32:50.700
are they going and seeing exciting new places?

00:32:51.019 --> 00:32:55.539
Or are they traveling a less than maintained

00:32:55.539 --> 00:32:58.880
motorhome or travel trailer and getting kicked

00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:02.599
out of parking lots That'll kind of tell you

00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:05.859
which one you are, you know, if you're thinking

00:33:05.859 --> 00:33:11.799
about this now part of the stigma comes from

00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:16.440
some Terribly irresponsible RVers that are ruining

00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:21.430
camping for everyone else Some RVers will go

00:33:21.430 --> 00:33:25.910
out and camp on public land Usually the 14 -day

00:33:25.910 --> 00:33:29.509
max they are Well over that when they go they

00:33:29.509 --> 00:33:32.390
try to live out there on public land and they

00:33:32.390 --> 00:33:35.789
usually trash sites They ignore all the stay

00:33:35.789 --> 00:33:37.789
limits. They ignore all the rules. They're out

00:33:37.789 --> 00:33:41.750
there doing drugs They're just making it there.

00:33:41.869 --> 00:33:43.950
They're painting a very bad picture of what it

00:33:43.950 --> 00:33:47.150
means to be a full -time RVer the worst thing

00:33:47.150 --> 00:33:50.029
that I've seen and this Happens more often than

00:33:50.029 --> 00:33:53.069
I like to admit these same folks. Let's just

00:33:53.069 --> 00:33:55.369
call them the trashy folks right the irresponsible

00:33:55.369 --> 00:33:59.650
folks Have been caught dumping black tanks on

00:33:59.650 --> 00:34:03.210
public land right in the campsite sometimes without

00:34:03.210 --> 00:34:06.690
a Stinky slinky or a sewer hose connected They

00:34:06.690 --> 00:34:08.929
just pull the valve and let a rip and they dump

00:34:08.929 --> 00:34:12.110
all of that human waste right in the campsite

00:34:13.489 --> 00:34:16.610
The reckless behavior like this is what leads

00:34:16.610 --> 00:34:20.090
to campground closures, national forest closures

00:34:20.090 --> 00:34:22.730
to camping. BLM takes a look at it and they say,

00:34:22.750 --> 00:34:25.630
no, this is costing us too much money to send

00:34:25.630 --> 00:34:28.449
people out to clean up after these guys. So we're

00:34:28.449 --> 00:34:31.750
just going to do away with it altogether. So

00:34:31.750 --> 00:34:34.090
when you see this kind of thing, it's a good

00:34:34.090 --> 00:34:37.090
idea to report it. Many people that go out and

00:34:37.090 --> 00:34:39.769
boondock on these public lands actually take

00:34:39.769 --> 00:34:42.909
a trash bag and litter pickers and Clean up,

00:34:42.909 --> 00:34:45.670
unfortunately, I mean, it shouldn't be your responsibility.

00:34:46.170 --> 00:34:49.449
But if you don't do it, if we don't do it as

00:34:49.449 --> 00:34:52.690
a responsible public, then these irresponsible

00:34:52.690 --> 00:34:56.289
people will likely drive our government agencies

00:34:56.289 --> 00:34:59.250
to close these things down and make it unavailable

00:34:59.250 --> 00:35:02.730
for the rest of us for good. So to protect free

00:35:02.730 --> 00:35:05.289
camping, they're out there cleaning up these

00:35:05.289 --> 00:35:08.809
irresponsible people's trash. We need to take

00:35:08.809 --> 00:35:11.710
care of these places. It's the only way to maintain

00:35:12.699 --> 00:35:15.960
our continued use of them. Well, hey guys, that

00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:18.639
wraps up this episode of the Restless Nomads.

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Do you full -time RV? What are your biggest struggles

00:35:21.659 --> 00:35:25.800
and best tips? Just log on to therestlessnomads

00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:28.519
.com, drop us a message, let us know. I'm curious

00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.380
to hear from other folks and looking forward

00:35:31.380 --> 00:35:34.179
to maybe doing some interviews and future podcasts

00:35:34.179 --> 00:35:39.239
from full -time RVers. Hey, we've got some exciting

00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.780
news. We will be hosting the Crescent Lake Campground

00:35:42.780 --> 00:35:46.420
this season. So, if you are in the area this

00:35:46.420 --> 00:35:49.360
summer, stop by and say hello to the Restless

00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:53.400
Nomads, your hosts, Mike and Angie. Well, until

00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:57.159
next time, everybody, stay safe, happy camping.

00:35:57.800 --> 00:35:59.940
We'll see you on the next episode of the Restless

00:35:59.940 --> 00:36:01.159
Nomads Radio Show.
