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Ever wonder what really happens behind the scenes

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in construction, real estate, and development?

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We pull back the curtain on the new home construction

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industry, the real estate market, and the trends

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and let's build something great together. So

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tell us what you're seeing. Tell us what you're

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seeing in the marketplace right now. Shifts in

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the last week. I feel it. I have had some buyers

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from my past, my broker days come out of the

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woodwork in the last probably two to three weeks

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or referrals from people. I definitely feel a

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buyer mood. It just feels like people are in

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the mood to buy. Um, a lot of these things are

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just kind of gut feeling and real estate is sounds

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so cliche, but real estate is very local. So

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what goes for one city doesn't go for the other.

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What goes for one zip code within one city doesn't

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go for the other. What does one price point doesn't

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always, but it's just a feeling. It's like a,

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it's like a culture of buying. Whereas the early

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part of this year, the first for sure, but second

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and third quarter were very boring this year

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in 2025, at least in Las Vegas. If you look at

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the rest of the country, sings the same song,

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not exciting, not a great time to be a seller,

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kind of a crummy time to be a buyer. You're staring

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down the barrel of high six, low 7 % interest

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rates. The inventory that is out there is kind

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of like a leftover inventory. Any of the new

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stuff still pretty sought after. So you're still

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maybe arguably in a competitive situation or

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certainly paying more than you feel like you

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should. The deals this year have been a new construction

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and I've definitely been, especially with the

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tonnage builders, your Linares and your DR Whartons

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that have the kind of power to buy down rates

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and the kind of motivation to clear out inventory

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for the quarter versus someone like us, you know,

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semi -custom home builder. We don't have. We

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put 10 to 12 homes in the ground a year. I have

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very little motivation to slash those houses

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because it's a labor of love, every single house.

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And it's also a unique home. And I go into every

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project knowing that this could be on the market

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for three to six months because it's not going

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to be, it's not going to fit the bill for every

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single buyer. And a lot of our, especially the

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last five years of what we've put out has been

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a lot of product that's discretionary. We have

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some projects coming up that are going to be

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more, even one now when we release it for sale

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in November. Are those that little enclave of

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homes? Those are more of a need. They're luxury

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homes, but they're a need. They're not resort

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style homes. They're just big, beautiful houses

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in great areas on great lots. But in the past,

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my wheelhouse or our wheelhouse has always been

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these luxury resort style homes that had a very

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small niche market. So I've always gone into

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all my projects knowing full well that it could

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be in it for the long haul. So I guess I say

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that to drive on the fact that I never have super

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high expectations. And I have had a couple of

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our luxury customs go into a multiple offer situation,

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but that's not been common. Or even some of our

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high end renovations that we wouldn't turn around

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to sell. Generally, you're kind of hanging tight

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waiting for a buyer. So that's nothing new. But

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what we saw now was that the tonnage builders

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and the production builders and the regular old

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resale at the median sales price, let's say 450,

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were sitting. And those homes have never sat.

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Our median sales price has never sat, really,

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in the last 10 years. It's always moved pretty

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well. So this is the first year that we really

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saw that. Now, that being said, I have seen that

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shift in the last probably two to three weeks.

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different, some tone changed this month. We've

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seen it. We've seen it. I know the home builder

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tracking that's showing upticks in traffic, not

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necessarily upticks in new contracts, but we

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definitely the, at least there, it's not, it's

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not bearing out in the data just yet, but the

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traffic is there. So that being said, we're feeling

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it on our side too, our inventory, we're seeing

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an uptick in interest. And then the MLS at large,

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at least in our county is Definitely seeing inventory

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equilibrate. Amount of new contracts has gone

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up. We're seeing more of a one -to -one absorption

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rate. So whereas, let's call it May, which was

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kind of our peak new inventory month, we were

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seeing new inventory weekly at about 1 ,200 houses.

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There'll be a little bit more some weeks. And

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then new contracts as low as 500 or 600. So we

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were adding inventory really really, really quickly.

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In fact, May of 25 was our highest amount of

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new inventory to ever hit our market since probably

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in the last 10 years, with 5 ,000 new houses

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added in that month alone, bringing our total

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inventory to around 10 ,000. So to give you a

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scale of reference, we doubled our inventory

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in a 30 to 45 day period, the same period of

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time our new home or our new contracts plummeted

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from around 800 to 500. So we saw roughly a 20

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to 30 % drop in new contracts and a 50 % increase

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in inventory, actually a hundred percent increase

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in inventory. So it just, you know, I also know

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that real estate is really, it's sentiment driven.

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So it's not that it was just dumb luck. It was

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that because there was so much inventory being

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added, buyers are pulling back because buyers

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are pulling back the inventory that was being

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added wasn't being able to be absorbed. Then

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once it hits the headlines, then it spooks everybody

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and then nobody wants to do anything. And that's

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kind of where we found ourselves this spring.

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Probably our most lackluster spring in my memory.

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I've been in this business about 12 years. I've

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seen 12 springs and this is by far my least favorite,

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including the spring of COVID. And I don't, that

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doesn't even look, when I look back at the numbers,

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it doesn't even represent, it's not represented

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in the numbers, which is very odd because for

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instance, in terms of new listings, Raw numbers

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were not much higher than we were in May or June,

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2022 in terms of new listings. Now we were starting

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with a thousand listings. So if we added 5 ,000,

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you know, there's a lot, um, still, but still

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under inventoried. So now we started with 5 ,000

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and then we added 5 ,000. So it became much more

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apparent. But if you look at the raw numbers,

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it's not. There. So it's purely sentimental.

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I feel that we're going to look back in a year

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or two and say, what happened in 25? I don't

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know. It's not even going to register because

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it's going to be inconsequential. In terms of

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sales price, believe it or not, we're up 2 .5

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% from last month. In terms of the year, we are

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up in the last rolling 12 months were up three

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and a half percent pretty much countywide. So

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that's, that's normal appreciation. I mean, again,

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there are other factors that can play into this.

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We're more expensive homes listed, more expensive

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home transact. These are the medians. So it's

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a little bit more representative than the average,

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which can be thrown by a $25 million home sale.

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one 2 ,500 million, but on the median, you know,

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you have to have seven or eight 25 million of

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home sales to throw the median off. So when you

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look at it, we are still, we're at records. And

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mind you, this data is from our local association.

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So if you look at the National Association, if

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you look at our other compilers, such as our

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Zillow's and our Redfin's, these numbers could

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easily be different. But our median previous

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record was February, I'm sorry, January, 2023,

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with the city Henderson being a 480 for median,

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Las Vegas being 416. And currently today we're

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at 490 for Henderson, Las Vegas being 440. So

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we're substantially higher than during that time,

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than three years ago. But the headlines will

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say, we have seen a 3 % decline, whatever, whatever,

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whatever. I just want to see the data because

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you can spend data however you want. You can

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get rid of outliers. You can look only at single

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family. This includes some condominium and some

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townhouses. So if you exclude those. It's going

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to be even higher. Single family obviously is

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a bigger share of the market and they transact

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for higher sales prices. So it's a great year.

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I mean, we're in a quarter three and it's a great

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year. If you could have told me in January 2025

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that this is the year we're going to have, I

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wasn't prepared for the emotion of it, but the

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numbers are fine. It's just been a bit of a paradigm

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shift for us. We're in a market where we're used

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to sellers holding all the cards. It's just not

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like that at this moment. The sentiment is that

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the buyers have more power. And the data is there

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to back that up, because if you look at total

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listings, total number of homes for sale, we're

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at about 10 ,000, like I mentioned. But just

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for reference, number one, we only have to go

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back to May of 2023 to have that same number

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of homes on the market. And before that, obviously

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COVID is a nadir. April 2022 lowest amount of

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available homes, which was around 4 ,800. So

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it shows you we've come a long way and we've

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doubled our inventory. But just for reference,

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we only have to go back to July slash August

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of 2020 to hit these inventory levels. And if

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we want to end just for our own references, they

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were never less than that. As far back as our

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data. compiles in the last 20 years. There's

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never been more homes available than that. So

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I guess my point is that the line peaked here

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in January 2015, and we're still nowhere near

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that. We're still below. We talk about doom and

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gloom, but if we go back to January 2015, there

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were 14 ,000 houses on the market. in Las Vegas.

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This is Henderson, Las Vegas, and North Las Vegas.

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This isn't Pahrump. This isn't Mesquite. These

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are no outlying areas. This is the Las Vegas

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metro area. We have 14 ,000 houses for sale.

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There's one caveat to this. A lot of new home

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construction is not represented in the data that

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I just mentioned. That new construction lot has

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to hit the MLS and has to sell on the MLS and

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show as a pending and show as a sold house to

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hit any of this data. So the caveat there is

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that we are definitely putting more new homes

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in the ground than we have in many, many, many

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years. But there's also people buying more new

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homes there are many, many years. So if we look

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at the number of closed transactions, like for

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instance, closed sales, if we look at, you know,

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from a monthly data, we're looking at approximately

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2200 closed transactions in August, which is

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pretty good. It's like, around $600 a week, give

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or take, which is pretty healthy. For reference,

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early 2021, we were seeing approximately 5 ,000

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homes a month closed. So over 1 ,000 transactions

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a week closed in March of 2021. Complete anomaly.

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Going back 10 years, you don't get anywhere close

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to that. But I just want to give a reference

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point to show the number, the month I quoted

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of January 2015, where we had 14 ,000 houses

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on the market that month. We closed 2 ,000 houses

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It's seven months supply in January 2015. So

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It's eye -opening so we have we still have still

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fewer homes and we closed more homes than we

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did this time ten years ago, so We just have

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had a hot market. We've had a lot of closed transaction

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We had a lot of interest in Las Vegas. But my

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point is is that January 2015, I'd have to go

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back and look at the numbers, but we were still

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reeling from the financial crisis, and I have

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a feeling we were not building as many new construction

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homes as we are today. The land development wasn't

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there. I hate to speak anecdotally without having

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the data, but I know we were building fewer homes.

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So the total number of real estate transacting,

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including new construction, including all the

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resale, is significantly higher. The inventory

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is significantly lower. interest rates are significantly

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higher than they were in January 2015, which

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were about four and a half, five percent, which

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really, I mean, if you really think about it,

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we're like six and a quarter today. Yes, it's

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a lot higher. I think where we're feeling it

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are the sales prices. It's those high rates plus

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the sales prices being significantly higher.

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So, for instance, the, let me see, sales price,

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because everyone's going to have, everyone's

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going to be in our comment section for this.

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January 2015, the average sales price in Las

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Vegas was $180 ,000. So that extra 2 % of interest

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rate, you wouldn't have felt it. It feels different.

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I'm seeing it. You're seeing inventory start

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to thin down. My favorite expression, and I don't

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know, maybe I'm the only one that appreciates

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it, but buyers market breed only the most motivated

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sellers. Sellers markets breed only the most

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motivated buyers. Inventory begets buyers, or

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I should say inventory breeds buyers. not the

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other way around. Buyers don't breed inventory

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because inventory takes a long time to amp up.

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You could argue that high sales prices do eventually

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breed more inventory because it will pull maybe

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investors out that were renting their homes or

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someone holding a second home and says, you know

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what, it's doubled in value. So high sales prices

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do tend to pull out a little bit more inventory,

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but boy, it is slow because same thing. Once

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sellers feel like home prices are appreciating

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substantially, They're actually less inclined

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to list their home. So it takes a while. It's

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almost like not high prices, but peaking prices

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once they feel like prices have peaked. And I

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feel that that's what we felt like in early 25,

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which is why we saw a lot of inventory. And then

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when they didn't peak, when we started to see

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them kind of not just necessarily pull back,

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but slow down quite a bit and, oh, I'm not getting

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comps for 700. I went to 715, 725 and I didn't

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get it. I went to 700 and get it went to 685

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didn't get it, pull it off the market. So I think

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that's kind of where we're at right now. And

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I will be encouraged to see where the rest of

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the year goes. And we have a bit of a blip in

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our market. And a lot of the Sunbelt markets

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have another blip in the fall, you know, and

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we just hit fall a couple days ago. So I expect

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a pretty healthy fall based on these numbers.

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Also, new mortgage is not new construction, new

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home mortgage applications, not refinances. The

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number I read were that they were up 22%. So

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that is a phenomenal leading indicator. That

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is a really good leading indicator for where

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we expect values to go. People are getting pre

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-approved. That's a hard credit pull. That's

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largely usually sending in documentation. You're

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not doing that to kick tires. You're ready. Yeah,

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those are real buyers, right? Those are real

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buyers Yeah, so we look at all these things and

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as I'm making pricing decisions on our current

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inventory we have One ready we have two that

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are going to be ready in the next week or two.

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We have one that'll be ready by the Thanksgiving

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time period and then we have six more that'll

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be ready probably in February But we're releasing

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for sales in the next six weeks I need that information,

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I need this information to make those pricing

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decisions. So say, do we do a price reduction?

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Do we do, what are we doing here? How do we engage

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with buyers that ask for certain concessions

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if I feel the market is on an upswing? Like I

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said, every home is custom. So I'm not in the

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business of slashing and burning. and getting

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inventory off my books. I worked too hard for

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that inventory. I didn't just build it to liquidate

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it. Why? It's important. So I turned a real estate

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podcast into a home builder episode, which I

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can't help it. I love it. I love it. I think

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it's great. It was good information. So thank

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you. Perfect. Good content. Awesome. Thanks for

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