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How are you? How was yesterday? It was good.

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I'm tired, but it was good. It's fun. The game

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is silly and fun, but it's fun because there

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were literally hundreds of us at the park walking

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around for literally eight hours just playing

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and talking and just having a good time together,

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which is nice, you know? and you're at bear creek

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park yeah so we went to bear creek and keller

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and just played there for literally was there

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from just before 10 o 'clock until just after

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six o 'clock so a little over eight hours of

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play it was a beautiful day it was a really good

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day for it i need today when i go back i need

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to put on sunscreen i was about to ask if you

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did that My neck is pink. Oh, yeah. So I need

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to do a better job of that. But it was it was

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it was really nice out. It was nice to just get

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some fresh air, especially after this week where

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like, yeah, I was with Book Fair. I was in the

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library all day with like until like I got home

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each night, most nights after seven o 'clock.

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So like Very little like outside sunlight fresh

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air time. And so yeah, it was it was really nice

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And it was fun. We got I got to see a lot of

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people and we just got to have fun playing and

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You know Yeah, it's nice to have like a community

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Like outside of like the work stuff. Yeah that

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you could just get together and just relax and

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have fun and goof off and That's great. I'm glad

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you got to do that. Yeah. And today is day two,

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so I get to go back and do it again. Yeah. Nice.

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Yeah. And like I'm, it's weird because it's also

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like, it's not work, but it's, there are some

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like work -like aspects to it because I - I don't

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know how I always get thrust into these positions,

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but I'm like a community ambassador for the area.

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Like me and one other person, like we like set

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up like the get togethers and stuff like that,

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which doesn't entail a ton, but it does mean

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that like, I'm the person that people ask questions

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to and like. random stuff like that. And so it's

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like doing that kind of stuff, too. And so it's

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weird. Why do I always get put into leadership

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positions? I don't get it. Because you're good

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at it. That's cool. It's that or because I don't

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say no, I can't remember. I don't know which

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of those two like maybe it's a little bit of

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both. Maybe that doesn't have to be one thing.

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But no, it was a yeah, it was. a beautiful day

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yesterday, and I think today's supposed to be

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pretty similar, which will be nice, because,

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you know, it starts out in, like, the 60s, but

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gets up to, like, the 80s, like, low 80s, so

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it's not, like, overwhelmingly hot, but just

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nice out. Yeah. Did you get to do anything fun

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yesterday? Well, I took the girls to Six Flags.

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Yes with our friends. Yeah, yes true. So it's

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weekday and oh, yeah, we got Season passes for

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them for Christmas so Yeah, we only went fun.

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Yeah, we just did like three or four hours. It

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was busy, but it was beautiful So that was okay

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And what the season passes it you don't feel

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like you have to stay all day cuz you're like,

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I won't come back. Yeah Yeah, this is just what

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we do. We're just theme park people Guess awesome,

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which is weird because I'm so introverted and

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I don't like humans, but that's okay. I Don't

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know as long as I don't have to interact with

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the humans. I don't mind it as much I can watch

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them. It's fine Yeah Yeah Yeah, it was good.

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It was fun good And Brandon's out running the

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cow town this morning half marathon running is

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not anything that I ever got into. I tried. I

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tried to do the running. It's not my thing. I've

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done a couple of half marathons with him. And

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then I just decided, I still run every day. Like

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before work and stuff, I do like a 5K every day.

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But I don't like doing it in a race. I don't

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know. That is too many people for me. It's too

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crowded. Have you ever done anything like that?

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It's so crowded. I mean, I've done some 5Ks and

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stuff, and it's very much, especially at the

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start where you're just shoulder to shoulder

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trying to run and stuff. It's not. Yeah. I don't

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like the people around me when I'm running. I

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don't know. I like to be alone. I like it in

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the morning because I'm alone and I can listen

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to my audio book and start the day without anyone.

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my favorite i don't like to run in a big group

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i don't know so during the summer i will get

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up and i'll go and like i do like like half run

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half walk 5k like every morning with my like

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audiobook or whatever play in and that especially

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like early in the morning when it's like just

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starting to become dawn and like yeah that's

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the time i love that but yeah Like running just

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to run. Yeah. Really just someone needs to be

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chasing me to make it so that I have to go. Brandon

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needs it though for his to stay in shape. Like

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he needs some kind of inspiration. Yeah. Well,

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that's good that he's found something that works

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for him. So he does this every year. We do the

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cow town every year. That's cool. Hello, I'm

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Patrick Adams. And I'm Caroline Legere. And this

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is Librarians of Littles, a podcast where we

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share books, makerspace activities, and tips

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and tricks for working with our students, our

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youngest students in the library setting. And

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this week we have two books from the 2026 Texas

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2x2 list. The Texas 2x2 list is a list of 20

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books. curated by the Texas Library Association.

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And these books are supposed to be the best books

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of the year for children between the ages of

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two and second grade. And so the first book from

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the 2026 list that we will be looking at is called

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Bear and the Three Goldilocks. It is written

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by Patrick Horn. and illustrated by Dan Iaccarino.

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It is published by Holiday House, which is an

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imprint of Penguin Random House, in 2025. It

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is on two lists, so it's on the Texas 2x2 list

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for 2026. It's also, it was on the Junior Library

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Guild selection list for 2025. And our author,

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Patrick Horn has been a tennis coach, a teacher,

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and most recently an author. He has three children

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that keep him inspired. And when he's writing,

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he works at a desk that his grandmother bought

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for his grandfather in the seventies, which I

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thought was just kind of a cool little thing.

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He's using his grandfather's desk. He lives in

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Texas with his wife and children, and he's at

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a charter school teaching Basically, he teaches

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fitness and the charter school is trilingual,

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which I thought was kind of cool, too. Oh, that

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is cool. Yeah. This is his very first book. Good

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for him. Yeah. And the illustrator, Dan Iaccarino,

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his history is, in addition to his own stories,

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Dan's bold, stylized illustrations add wit and

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energy to the work of such distinguished authors

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as Margaret Wise -Brown, Jack Proletsky, and

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Kevin Henkes. He's also the creator and producer

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of several animated series based on his books,

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Doug Unplugs on Apple TV, Oswald on Nickelodeon,

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Will Is Wildlife on NBC and... is that Cubo?

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Cubo. Yeah. I don't know. I don't watch TV. I

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don't know networks. Hmm. As well as the character

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designer behind the backyardigans from Nickelodeon.

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I love the backyardigans. I didn't know that.

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Yeah. Okay. Sorry. Animation Magazine hails him

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as an American Original. Dance internationally

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recognized art style has earned him a large following

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in Japan exhibits in New York Los Angeles, Tokyo

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and Do you say that? And a visit to the White

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House He is also a contributing children's book

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reviewer for the New York Times. Dan's books

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have been translated into many languages, and

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in addition to animated series, his work has

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inspired toys, ebooks, children's musicals, and

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video adaptations. I knew about him, but I didn't

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know all of that about him. Isn't that cool?

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Yeah, I had no idea. But his art style is very,

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very, like, I don't know, like... You can tell

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it's his work every time. Yeah, it's unique.

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It's very cool. And so when I was reading about

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him, I was like, this guy, I didn't like, I didn't

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even realize that he had his own, like his books

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had become TV shows, because now that my kids

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older, we don't really watch as much of the that

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kind of stuff. But yeah, like, yeah, the backyard

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again, I'm familiar with and the fact that he

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was a character designer for that. And like,

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that's just some really cool. Cool credits to

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him. So yeah So he is also He's done many many

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books like a ton of books some of the books that

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he has written and illustrated include the fantastic

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undersea life of Jacques Cousteau all the way

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to America the story of a big Italian family

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and a little shovel five little pumpkins I am

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a story Doug unplugged Morris Mole, Giant Tess,

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The Birthday Fish, and Unlovable, plus a ton

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of other books. But he's also done the illustrations

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for many other authors and their books, including

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Trashy Town by Andrea Zimmerman and David Clemesha.

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That's what I would say. Clemesha, yeah. Goodnight

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Songs by Margaret Wise Brown, Melissa Sweet,

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and Sophia Blackall. Circle Dogs by Kevin Henkes,

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One, Two, Grandpa Loves You by Shelley Becker,

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Firefighter Flow by Andrea Zimmerman, Boy Plus

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Bot by Amy Dyckman, and a lot of other books

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as well. So his list of books is very long that

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he's participated in, which is awesome. And I

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really do love his art style. It's just so cool.

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Like they're like the black lines that he uses

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and everything just always great. Yeah. I like

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how many, um, like it's very geometric and I

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think that makes it a little bit more accessible

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for kids. Like if they want to imitate it, it's

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great. I love it. Yes. And so Again, our book

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is Bear and the Three Goldilocks. And the summary

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for that book is that basically this is a twist

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on the classic Goldilocks and the Three Bears

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story. This story has the Goldilocks family,

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mother, father, and daughter, going camping.

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And as they're going camping, they set up their

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tents. They prep their instruments so that they

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can sing campfire songs together. They begin

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making s'mores. And then the family decides that

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they're going to go on a hike. So they quickly

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leave their campsite and very quickly after they

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leave, a little bear comes into the campsite

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and begins to Try out everything just like Goldilocks

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in the original story So he tries the s'mores

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and one is too gooey and one is too chocolatey,

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but the third one is just right he tries the

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instruments, but the guitar is too stringy the

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banjo is too plucky and the tambourine is just

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right and so on until when the Goldilocks family

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returns they find their campsite in shambles

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with the baby bear inside the Goldilocks daughter's

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tent sleeping and when the mama and papa bear

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who have been looking for their baby bear show

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up at the campsite it's funny they invite the

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Goldilocks family back to their home for porridge

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but the Goldilocks family doesn't speak bear

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and so all they hear is growling and so they

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jump in their car and quickly leave. It's a cute

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story. It's a lot of fun. I think the kids will

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really enjoy the kind of silliness of it. And

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there's definitely that familiarity from the

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Goldilocks and the Three Bears story. And so

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the kids will already have that background knowledge.

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And I think that the silly little twist on it

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will definitely be something that's enjoyable

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for these kids. It was a lot of fun to read and

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I look forward to reading it with my students.

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I haven't read it with them yet, but this is

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one I'm going to add to my list to read, especially

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when we're talking about like fairy tales and

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fractured fairy tales and that kind of stuff,

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because it's a really cute story. The pictures

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are awesome. And so it'll be very engaging for

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the students. I definitely say that this is a

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five out of five book. I really, really like

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it. For sure. I agree. I mean, Dean Iaccarino.

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illustrated it, which means it's very bright,

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very vivid, but not overwhelming, somewhat simplistic

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and accessible pictures. But the text is still

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very visible. And I do like that element of familiarity

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it has with it being a Goldilocks book, because

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it very much is a Goldilocks book. But it was

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fantastic. I loved it. My favorite was definitely

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when the bears tried very nicely to explain the

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misunderstanding and I am so sorry and then but

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they only heard roar roar roar so they ran away.

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That was the best for me. I loved it. I agree.

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This one's a five out of five for sure. Yeah

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and like that just that little bit of humor in

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it you know like the kids are gonna think all

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of it's funny but even for the adults like that

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little bit of humor of like they don't speak

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bear so you know like yeah but it's a lot of

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fun yeah super cute and so for a makerspace activity

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i kind of struggled because i at first i was

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thinking like what could the kids build or make

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or something and so what i came up with is i

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think it would be fun to kind of like assign

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the kids to have them make different props from

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this story and then have them like retell the

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story. So like have one kid that's that their

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job is they hand them everybody have plenty of

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like card stock or paper and some colored pencils

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and crayons and markers and have them each make

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a part. So like one kid makes the s'mores that

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were too gooey and one kid makes the s'more that's

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too chocolatey and one kid makes the s'more that's

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just right and somebody else makes the guitar

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and somebody else makes the banjo and somebody

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else makes the tambourine and just go through

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and have them like make all the different things

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and then have each of those kids retell that

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part of the story and so you could have the entire

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class like be able to retell the story after

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they created their little props to to remind

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them of what part they're doing. which I think

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covers a bunch of different skills that pre -K

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should be working on for sure. There's going

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to be that creativity part so they're actually

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getting to do some artwork to create, but then

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to the retelling of the story and getting them

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in the right order so that they can retell it

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and all that kind of stuff. I think it would

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take a little bit of work, but I think that would

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be what I would end up doing with this story

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just because I think with the familiarity of

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the story. I think that would help them making

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sure that they're in the right order and able

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to retell the story a little bit easier than

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some other stories for sure. And so I think this

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would just be kind of a fun activity to have

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them do that might take more than one library

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session. Like you might, it might be that after

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you read the story, they make the props and then

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the next week they come back and retell it. But

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I think, with that familiarity, I think it would

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be possible for them to do that still. I think

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that you're right. And I think that would be

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great. And I think it's kind of funny that you

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said that because that was exactly what I was

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thinking that I would do with this book, if I

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was going to make a lesson afterward. Uh huh.

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Yeah, I've I don't know if it's just because

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it's goalie locks that I was thinking that and

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you were thinking that as well. Because I don't

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think you and I usually like think that much

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alike with lessons but yeah maybe it's because

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of that because that like you just were saying

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this time right well it's just such a well -known

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story but just slightly different enough to make

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it novel but familiar enough that they could

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possibly retell it with you know in a silly kind

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of a way that's cute i like it i think they would

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like it too and I do too really great on a lot

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of levels yeah I think they would have a lot

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of fun with it so yeah they would all right so

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with that we get to our library of littles makerspace

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spotlight and we've been going over some different

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tech based activities that teach students coding

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over the last couple episodes. And this week

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we're going to spotlight another device. This

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one is the learning resources code and go robot

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mouse. And so this is one that a lot of people

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have seen before. And it's a screen free STEM

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toy designed to teach children basically from

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ages four and up the basics of coding through

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hands on play. Children use color -coded buttons

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on the mouse's back to program a sequence of

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up to 40 steps to guide the robot through a maze

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so that they can find the plastic cheese wedge

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that has a magnet in it so it'll pop to the robot

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mouse's nose. This is a great product. It's very

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similar to the... the bbots in the way it functions

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anyway. The robot itself on the back, it has

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colored arrows. So there's a forward arrow, a

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backwards arrow, a left turn and a right turn

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arrow, and then the go button. And so when the

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robot is ready, you can, and I think there's

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a clear button on it too. So that clears out

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whatever code you have. And so the students can

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push those buttons and tell it to go, and the

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robot will move according to the order that the

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buttons were pushed. This set, so I found a couple

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different sets. The robot itself, basically,

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if you just got the robot, it was looking, most

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of the places I was looking, it seemed to be

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about $39, but most of them, you wanna get the

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set itself that comes with the square tiles that

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interlock. They come with the purple little walls

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to make a maze. They even come with some arches

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and the mouse cheese. They also come with double

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-sided cards that have the arrows for movement.

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And that whole set tends to cost between $75

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and $80 if you buy the set, which is much more

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in the price range of a lot of libraries than

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the Cubeto that we talked about yesterday in

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the 300 to 400 price range. So much more cost

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effective. I will say that these robots are pretty

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durable. The biggest issue I've ever had with

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the robots is that when you're working with Pre

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-K, a lot of the kids, when they put in the code,

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and have the robot move if it doesn't go the

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way they want. A lot of times they want to grab

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it and either pull it backwards or push it forwards

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to where they want it to be. Yeah. And at first,

00:23:02.059 --> 00:23:04.880
that's a natural thing for them to do. And so

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I had to spend a lot of time with my students

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teaching them, like, you can't do that because

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by pushing and pulling on the robot, the wheels,

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the gears will grind and actually not catch and

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then it won't move anymore. After a while if

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that's happening, so that's Like as far as durability

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the mouse itself. I never had one break or crack

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But the wheels stopped working because the gears

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were shredded from some misuse so If you know

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that in advance and work to teach the children

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the proper use of the device This is this is

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a very fine product that works really well. I

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will say that What I found using all of the pieces

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when you use the green tiles that connect in

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the purple walls and that kind of thing what

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I found Was that a lot of my pre -k students?

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Struggled to design a maze. So if you were gonna

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use that to do have them work on this Pre -build

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the maze yourself and then have them try and

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get the mouse to go through the maze. It's a

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lot of pre -planning for a pre -K student to

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try and build a maze for the mouse to then go

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through. And I found that that was a struggle

00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:37.779
for a lot of my students. So if you're gonna

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do this with and have the mouse actually try

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to go through a maze to get to the cheese. pre

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-build that maze before the students come in

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so that that doesn't become a headache. The other

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option is, is this mouse will roll just on like

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a table. So you could just teach them to start

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practicing using the mouse without any of the

00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.839
other pieces and just let them get used to how

00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:06.440
the mouse moves and that kind of thing. The nice

00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:08.799
thing about the green tiles is that the green

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tiles are the same size as the coding for the

00:25:13.769 --> 00:25:16.890
robot to move. So when you tell it to move left,

00:25:16.990 --> 00:25:20.049
it's gonna move one tile to the left. If you

00:25:20.049 --> 00:25:22.430
tell it to move forward, it moves one tile forward.

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And so that visual helps. So even if you just

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made a flat platform of just the green and told

00:25:29.890 --> 00:25:32.390
them, here's where we're starting and here's

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where we're going, and there were no walls, no

00:25:34.190 --> 00:25:36.809
arches, nothing else, that might be a way to

00:25:36.809 --> 00:25:42.089
do it too. It's a good product. It's a lot of

00:25:42.089 --> 00:25:48.769
fun. The biggest flaw that I have with this device

00:25:48.769 --> 00:25:52.849
is that you can push a bunch of buttons, but

00:25:52.849 --> 00:25:58.089
you don't know where in the code you are. And

00:25:58.089 --> 00:26:00.190
like, there's no indication of what the next

00:26:00.190 --> 00:26:04.109
part of the code will be that it does. So like

00:26:04.109 --> 00:26:08.160
in other robots, like on the Coda Pillar, you

00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.940
could see it lit up when it was at a certain

00:26:10.940 --> 00:26:15.220
segment of the code. In Cubeto, it lights up

00:26:15.220 --> 00:26:18.059
with each tile that's placed so you know where

00:26:18.059 --> 00:26:21.359
you are in the code. With this robot, when you

00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:25.079
put it in, you put it in and then it just goes.

00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:28.200
It doesn't show you where in the code you are

00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:32.059
or what's happening next. And so that's a little

00:26:32.059 --> 00:26:35.960
bit more challenging for the kids. to understand

00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:37.779
why it's not doing what they wanted because they

00:26:37.779 --> 00:26:44.059
can't see where they messed up unless you use

00:26:44.059 --> 00:26:47.500
those cards and write in put them down in front

00:26:47.500 --> 00:26:51.519
of the kid as they push the buttons and then

00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:55.220
as the mouse moves you kind of go through it

00:26:55.220 --> 00:26:58.240
that way with them but on the mouse itself it

00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.259
doesn't tell you where it is in the code or what

00:27:00.259 --> 00:27:04.380
it's doing next or anything like that so that's

00:27:05.539 --> 00:27:08.900
one slight disadvantage. But like I said, if

00:27:08.900 --> 00:27:10.940
you use the cards, like the little double -sided

00:27:10.940 --> 00:27:15.880
cards and put those as to how they're putting

00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.359
in the code, that might be a way to resolve that

00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:22.339
issue. But these are a lot of fun. The kids really

00:27:22.339 --> 00:27:25.500
do enjoy being able to see if the mouse can get

00:27:25.500 --> 00:27:28.420
to the cheese and that kind of thing. And it

00:27:28.420 --> 00:27:34.309
is a good way to get started with the Coding

00:27:34.309 --> 00:27:36.289
and this is one of those things where you could

00:27:36.289 --> 00:27:38.910
use these cards to have like we mentioned last

00:27:38.910 --> 00:27:41.470
time You could use some of those cards to have

00:27:41.470 --> 00:27:44.650
the kids like Because I've they've made they

00:27:44.650 --> 00:27:46.450
make the cards the cards are relatively small

00:27:46.450 --> 00:27:49.150
little squares But they also make a set that

00:27:49.150 --> 00:27:52.029
are bigger and that you could use those to do

00:27:52.029 --> 00:27:54.549
like a code the teacher Kind of thing like we

00:27:54.549 --> 00:27:59.190
talked about where the kids put down Things and

00:27:59.190 --> 00:28:01.349
that's how the teachers supposed to move and

00:28:01.349 --> 00:28:03.390
do those things And so you could do something

00:28:03.390 --> 00:28:05.269
like that with it before you ever get to the

00:28:05.269 --> 00:28:07.369
robot But the robot itself is pretty fun. The

00:28:07.369 --> 00:28:10.430
kids really do enjoy it It's a good product.

00:28:10.549 --> 00:28:14.490
That's cool. I've had access to them, but I didn't

00:28:14.490 --> 00:28:17.210
Use them a lot last year because I was on two

00:28:17.210 --> 00:28:20.029
campuses and I was a little overwhelmed and I

00:28:20.029 --> 00:28:24.710
did use other Like I did use Coda Pillar And

00:28:24.710 --> 00:28:31.500
I think the bots because two campuses but yeah

00:28:31.500 --> 00:28:34.960
this one sounds like a lot of fun and looks really

00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.279
cool it looks like a great product it it is it's

00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.259
a lot of fun and like i said it's very similar

00:28:40.259 --> 00:28:44.059
to the b -box um that people are very familiar

00:28:44.059 --> 00:28:50.619
with also um and like the hand to mind which

00:28:50.619 --> 00:28:53.039
is one of the companies that does some of this

00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:55.920
stuff they've got different activities and like

00:28:55.849 --> 00:28:59.190
printable materials that you can get for the

00:28:59.190 --> 00:29:01.970
students and there's a bunch of teacher pay teacher

00:29:01.970 --> 00:29:06.309
sites that have activities for it and there's

00:29:06.309 --> 00:29:09.809
like expansion packs where you can start like

00:29:09.809 --> 00:29:12.430
for older kids where you can take these and then

00:29:12.430 --> 00:29:14.849
do start practicing addition and subtraction

00:29:14.849 --> 00:29:17.150
skills and sequencing and all sorts of other

00:29:17.150 --> 00:29:20.670
things so like it's a really cool device because

00:29:20.670 --> 00:29:23.759
well starting with like three and four year olds

00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.359
to just learn some basic coding, it can be used

00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.099
for multiple things as kids get older too. So

00:29:29.099 --> 00:29:30.940
it's not something that they're gonna age out

00:29:30.940 --> 00:29:35.480
of super fast. No, it's cool. I like it. So yeah.

00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:41.980
Cool. It holds its value for a while. Nice. Yeah.

00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.619
Maybe I'll try some soon. We'll see. All right.

00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:50.420
The next book that we're gonna talk about today

00:29:50.420 --> 00:29:54.869
is from the 2x2 list is called Big Enough. It

00:29:54.869 --> 00:29:56.849
was published by Little Brown and Company in

00:29:56.849 --> 00:30:01.650
2025. And the author and illustrator is Regina

00:30:01.650 --> 00:30:07.309
Link. And this book is an ALSC Notable Children's

00:30:07.309 --> 00:30:12.430
Book for 2026. And it's a El Dia de los Niños

00:30:12.430 --> 00:30:18.940
book for 2026 and a Texas 2x2 for 2026. And Regina

00:30:18.940 --> 00:30:22.059
Link is a Taiwanese -American author and illustrator,

00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.980
and she combines East Asian philosophy with Chinese

00:30:25.980 --> 00:30:29.079
brush painting. Although she is a professional

00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:32.259
illustrator, she never went to art school. Instead,

00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:35.700
she got marketing degrees from Washington State

00:30:35.700 --> 00:30:38.799
University in St. Louis and Cornell University.

00:30:39.180 --> 00:30:41.960
She was born and raised in Texas and she moved

00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.259
to Taiwan with her family when she was in her

00:30:44.259 --> 00:30:47.299
mid -30s. While she was there, that's when she

00:30:47.299 --> 00:30:49.980
learned the traditional Chinese painting that

00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:52.400
she uses in her art and began showing her work

00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.160
on Instagram. And when she was on Instagram,

00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:58.920
the work that she published was so popular that

00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:02.400
she ended up publishing a whole book of it called

00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:06.640
The Oxherd Boy, Parables of Love, Compassion,

00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.920
and Community. And that book is written for adults

00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:16.079
and that Oxford boy is the boy that we read about

00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:21.539
in this book. So that's fun. And Big Enough is

00:31:21.539 --> 00:31:24.500
her first children's book. And then she has a

00:31:24.500 --> 00:31:28.279
sequel called Little Helper coming out in May

00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:32.880
of 2026. So yeah. That's her. I thought she had

00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.500
a fun story. I love that she didn't actually

00:31:35.500 --> 00:31:37.440
go to art school. She might be the first one

00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.819
that we've done this on that didn't like officially

00:31:41.819 --> 00:31:45.980
do any of the things that she was intending to

00:31:45.980 --> 00:31:50.059
with like writing or just kind of got her start

00:31:50.059 --> 00:31:52.559
on Instagram just showing her artwork and stuff.

00:31:52.579 --> 00:31:56.059
That's really cool. I know, right? And that's

00:31:56.059 --> 00:31:58.640
one thing I have to say about this book is like

00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:03.880
the art. It's beautiful. It is incredible. It's

00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:07.200
breathtaking, really. It's amazing. And so I

00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:11.740
was enthralled just by the art on the page. Yeah.

00:32:12.259 --> 00:32:17.240
It's beautiful. Yeah. The whole story is... It's

00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:21.480
great. And the art really is what sucks you in,

00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.779
though. I guess I should just do the book summary

00:32:25.779 --> 00:32:27.400
now since I'm already talking about the book.

00:32:30.390 --> 00:32:34.269
So for the book summary, a young boy is charged

00:32:34.269 --> 00:32:37.490
with bringing the family's ox home from the fields.

00:32:37.930 --> 00:32:40.910
He's warned by his grandfather not to ride him

00:32:40.910 --> 00:32:44.269
because he isn't big enough just yet. On his

00:32:44.269 --> 00:32:46.789
way to go get the ox, he meets some other animals

00:32:46.789 --> 00:32:49.130
who give advice and tell him not to pull him

00:32:49.130 --> 00:32:51.670
by the horn or lead him from behind because he's

00:32:51.670 --> 00:32:53.730
not big enough to do those things yet either.

00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:56.859
Once he does get to the ox, he finds that the

00:32:56.859 --> 00:32:59.299
ox is even more reluctant to find his way home

00:32:59.299 --> 00:33:03.619
than the boy. And the boy ends up riding him,

00:33:03.740 --> 00:33:05.640
pulling him by the horn and leading him from

00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:08.599
behind to get the ox safely home. And in the

00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.279
end, he learns that he is, in fact, big enough

00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:15.759
after all. This was just a really sweet story.

00:33:16.339 --> 00:33:19.940
It's I think this one's a five out of five as

00:33:19.940 --> 00:33:21.859
well. There's a reason it's on the two by two.

00:33:21.859 --> 00:33:27.940
These are great books. And it definitely has

00:33:27.940 --> 00:33:29.839
that element of... I don't know if this is like

00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.960
an actual parable or not, or if she just like

00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.079
created this one. I have no idea. But it feels

00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.980
very much like a parable. Well, I mean, it is

00:33:39.980 --> 00:33:41.660
a parable. I just don't know if it's like a traditional

00:33:41.660 --> 00:33:49.519
one or not. But I love that it's very relatable

00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.920
for the kids, that it's, you know... Ultimately,

00:33:53.019 --> 00:33:54.960
it's a story about, like, building confidence

00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.920
and, you know, perseverance and just not giving

00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:02.359
up in general. And, you know, trying to do the

00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.859
hard thing even though you know you may not be

00:34:04.859 --> 00:34:07.680
able to do it. Like, you're still gonna try anyway.

00:34:07.940 --> 00:34:09.940
We're still gonna, you know, this is my responsibility.

00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.679
I'm going to accept it. We're gonna get it done.

00:34:13.300 --> 00:34:15.400
I can't do these things yet because I'm not big

00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.980
enough, but we'll find a way to do it anyway.

00:34:18.730 --> 00:34:21.510
and the boy just doesn't give up and he just

00:34:21.510 --> 00:34:25.550
keeps going and that artwork really is so beautiful.

00:34:25.969 --> 00:34:30.949
I love it. It's so good. It's stunning. It truly

00:34:30.949 --> 00:34:34.429
is. I wouldn't, I'm kind of surprised it didn't

00:34:34.429 --> 00:34:37.909
end up on a Caldecott list actually. Maybe the

00:34:37.909 --> 00:34:42.269
next book will. I don't know. Yeah, this I loved

00:34:42.269 --> 00:34:45.030
the whole story and it's very relatable to the

00:34:45.030 --> 00:34:46.809
kids that they're just like I'm not big enough

00:34:46.809 --> 00:34:49.969
yet kind of you know that attitude is something

00:34:49.969 --> 00:34:53.630
that all of these kids can relate to as far as

00:34:53.630 --> 00:34:59.349
And so it was a it was a very sweet story and

00:34:59.349 --> 00:35:03.449
I love that like the big giant ox is afraid of

00:35:03.449 --> 00:35:06.489
the dark kind of you know, like doesn't want

00:35:06.489 --> 00:35:11.130
to be alone and is uncertain just because size,

00:35:11.610 --> 00:35:13.289
you know, like it's a nice way to just explain

00:35:13.289 --> 00:35:16.530
that, you know, size isn't everything and they're

00:35:16.530 --> 00:35:21.610
like, we all have some of those fears and issues

00:35:21.610 --> 00:35:25.130
that need to be dealt with and with someone taking

00:35:25.130 --> 00:35:28.829
care of us and being there for us, we can kind

00:35:28.829 --> 00:35:31.349
of make it through together. So it's a really

00:35:31.349 --> 00:35:36.650
sweet story that. The pictures just amplify so

00:35:36.650 --> 00:35:39.929
much because the artwork is just so incredible.

00:35:39.949 --> 00:35:45.389
Mm -hmm It really is Yeah, it was a great book

00:35:45.389 --> 00:35:48.190
and I love like it's a great kind of multicultural

00:35:48.190 --> 00:35:51.650
book to like it was just great It's a great one

00:35:51.650 --> 00:35:54.170
to show at the beginning of the year I think

00:35:54.170 --> 00:35:56.570
I would do this one at the beginning of the year

00:35:56.570 --> 00:36:00.610
when kids are still getting used to all of the

00:36:00.610 --> 00:36:05.050
routines and everything and when they're still

00:36:05.050 --> 00:36:07.429
getting used to school in general and being away

00:36:07.429 --> 00:36:11.670
from their parents and their safe spaces for

00:36:11.670 --> 00:36:13.309
longer periods of time and like learning that

00:36:13.309 --> 00:36:16.030
school is a safe space. That's definitely when

00:36:16.030 --> 00:36:17.550
I would do this book because a lot of them are

00:36:17.550 --> 00:36:18.909
probably thinking that they're not big enough

00:36:18.909 --> 00:36:20.710
for school yet either and they should probably

00:36:20.710 --> 00:36:24.389
just go home. I know not all of them are thinking

00:36:24.389 --> 00:36:27.530
that but I think the majority do like that's

00:36:27.530 --> 00:36:29.639
a big change. Going to school for the first time

00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:31.699
is a huge change. And I think this is a great

00:36:31.699 --> 00:36:33.280
one for the beginning of the year for that one.

00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:38.099
They're all feeling that change. It's even more

00:36:38.099 --> 00:36:42.320
relatable right then. And for a makerspace lesson,

00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.320
I kind of had a hard time thinking of exactly

00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.519
what I would do because I don't know, just the

00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:50.780
way the parable is written. I don't know. But

00:36:50.780 --> 00:36:52.940
I think I would do it at the beginning of the

00:36:52.940 --> 00:36:59.519
year and then have the kids draw a picture of

00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:01.280
them doing something that they think they're

00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:04.059
not big enough to do yet. And I think my the

00:37:04.059 --> 00:37:07.059
biggest examples that I would use with the kids

00:37:07.059 --> 00:37:11.119
is probably learning to read because a lot of

00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:16.199
the kids when they first start in pre -k and

00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:19.980
in kindergarten like I always have like a space

00:37:19.980 --> 00:37:22.820
in the library where like during our maker space

00:37:22.820 --> 00:37:24.760
time or whatever like reading is always a choice

00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.489
in the library. Always. I always have a little

00:37:27.489 --> 00:37:31.090
reading nook. They can always go and get from

00:37:31.090 --> 00:37:33.750
a selected, you know, a limited amount of books

00:37:33.750 --> 00:37:35.130
because I'm not going to let them go roam the

00:37:35.130 --> 00:37:37.349
entire library, like pulling stuff off shelves

00:37:37.349 --> 00:37:40.429
because that would be a headache. But there's

00:37:40.429 --> 00:37:43.289
always books for them to read in the library

00:37:43.289 --> 00:37:44.909
and they can always go sit down and read. But

00:37:44.909 --> 00:37:47.670
at the beginning of the year, those pre -king

00:37:47.670 --> 00:37:50.170
and kinder kids are like, I, but I don't know

00:37:50.170 --> 00:37:52.630
how you have to sit with me. And I'm like, no,

00:37:52.630 --> 00:37:55.860
no, no, no, no. You can read the pictures. You

00:37:55.860 --> 00:37:58.219
can look over here. You can tell me the things

00:37:58.219 --> 00:38:01.099
that you see happening in the book. You know

00:38:01.099 --> 00:38:06.780
the pages turn this way. You know the book is

00:38:06.780 --> 00:38:10.780
right side up over here. You can do this. You

00:38:10.780 --> 00:38:13.679
can be independent. And I would go with it from

00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.360
that angle of like you are big enough to read

00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:19.719
on your own. You may not be able to read every

00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.340
single word on the page and you might not know

00:38:22.340 --> 00:38:25.119
all the letters yet. that's okay. You will be

00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:26.860
big enough. You're not big enough for that yet.

00:38:26.900 --> 00:38:29.559
You are big enough to turn the pages. You are

00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:31.920
big enough to orient it the right way. You are

00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.559
big enough to sit on your own. You're big enough

00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.500
to enjoy this. You can do it. So I think that

00:38:37.500 --> 00:38:40.280
would be my big example for the kids. And like,

00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.340
I would probably draw a picture of myself for

00:38:42.340 --> 00:38:44.679
them. Like, because I think at the beginning,

00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:46.480
they would still need a lot of modeling with

00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:48.159
things like that. So I would probably draw a

00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:51.460
picture of myself reading a book. And that would

00:38:51.460 --> 00:38:56.059
be my example. But then encouraging them as well

00:38:56.059 --> 00:38:58.400
to come up with their own examples and drawing

00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:02.719
other things that they will someday be able to

00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:06.139
do. Maybe pair it with the magical yet. We will

00:39:06.139 --> 00:39:10.360
do these things. It'll happen. Give it time,

00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.880
children. It's hard to wait, but you can do it.

00:39:14.219 --> 00:39:18.559
You'll do it. Yeah. I love that idea. I think

00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:21.980
that would be a lot of fun for the kids. to imagine

00:39:21.980 --> 00:39:24.099
themselves being able to do some of those things,

00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:27.260
so. Yeah, especially at the beginning when they

00:39:27.260 --> 00:39:30.179
think. When everything's been done for them.

00:39:30.340 --> 00:39:32.840
There's so many kids that come in and they're

00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.239
like, I can't do anything. Yes, you can. Yes,

00:39:36.300 --> 00:39:39.000
you can, child. You're big enough for a lot,

00:39:39.019 --> 00:39:43.880
don't worry. Yes. Yeah, that's the big thing

00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:45.320
is at the beginning of the year, I have so many

00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:49.300
that they've had so much done for them that...

00:39:49.369 --> 00:39:52.050
You ask them to do anything that I can't do that.

00:39:52.329 --> 00:39:56.929
Well, yes, you can. I promise, but you gotta

00:39:56.929 --> 00:40:00.670
try. Like you gotta try. Yeah. Yeah, I've had

00:40:00.670 --> 00:40:03.590
four -year -olds start a school, more than one

00:40:03.590 --> 00:40:06.010
four -year -old has started school on the first

00:40:06.010 --> 00:40:10.150
day and like have literally had their parents

00:40:10.150 --> 00:40:14.389
spoon feed them still at four years old and things

00:40:14.389 --> 00:40:18.670
like that. Like, oh, oh boy. You are big enough.

00:40:19.019 --> 00:40:29.760
You can do these things. Yes. Anyway. Well, thank

00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:31.840
you all for joining us today on this episode

00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.139
of Librarians of Littles, and we hope you found

00:40:34.139 --> 00:40:36.760
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00:41:20.590 --> 00:41:25.269
.com. So I don't know how many different payment

00:41:25.269 --> 00:41:29.550
plans I've set up for medical bills, but that's

00:41:29.550 --> 00:41:40.590
a lot so far. Yeah. Throw in my ER visit a month

00:41:40.590 --> 00:41:46.980
ago for my kidney stone and yeah. Did you tell

00:41:46.980 --> 00:41:50.559
me about that? I don't know maybe maybe I don't

00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:54.119
know. Yeah, so I spent I woke up well, I did

00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:58.619
I did wake up I It was like a Monday and I felt

00:41:58.619 --> 00:42:02.139
fine just not the best and then that night I

00:42:02.139 --> 00:42:05.880
got home and I was like something's wrong and

00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.179
I ended up like in the fetal position on our

00:42:08.179 --> 00:42:10.820
living room floor just like oh My god, it hurts

00:42:10.820 --> 00:42:14.039
so much And, and I knew what it was, but I was

00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:17.059
like, we need to go get this dealt with. And

00:42:17.059 --> 00:42:20.320
so we ended up in the ER at like nine, nine o

00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:26.300
'clock at night. We were there until like 12

00:42:26.300 --> 00:42:30.000
31 o 'clock because they made me like, first

00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:31.940
they were like pee in this cup and I bring it

00:42:31.940 --> 00:42:34.940
out and it's like very red. So, you know, not

00:42:34.940 --> 00:42:36.900
a good sign to start. And I knew, like I said,

00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:38.420
I knew what it was because of where it was hurting,

00:42:38.420 --> 00:42:41.889
but then they make you sit through. them doing

00:42:41.889 --> 00:42:43.869
tests and different things. And then finally

00:42:43.869 --> 00:42:45.369
they're like, yep, it's that. And they gave me

00:42:45.369 --> 00:42:47.250
some medicine, gave me a prescription, sent me

00:42:47.250 --> 00:42:49.670
home. And I texted my team and I was like, here's

00:42:49.670 --> 00:42:51.210
the deal. I'm here. I don't know how long I'm

00:42:51.210 --> 00:42:53.510
going to be here. I sent it at like nine o 'clock

00:42:53.510 --> 00:42:59.429
at night. Um, I went to work the next day and

00:42:59.429 --> 00:43:06.210
every, like the number of people that like were

00:43:06.210 --> 00:43:08.269
checking on me, like every 20 minutes. And I

00:43:08.269 --> 00:43:11.239
was finally like, guys, just leave me. although

00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:14.260
it's fine. They're like, why are you even here?

00:43:14.260 --> 00:43:17.139
And I was like, here's the two choices, either

00:43:17.139 --> 00:43:21.820
I'm here miserable, or I'm at home miserable

00:43:21.820 --> 00:43:28.519
and worrying about work. But it was fine. I probably

00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.980
would have gone into. Because the other thing

00:43:31.980 --> 00:43:35.659
was I wasn't getting a sub that day. There was

00:43:35.659 --> 00:43:38.320
no sub. So they were going to have to split my

00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:40.739
groups. And I was like, I'm not. Like I'd rather

00:43:40.739 --> 00:43:43.719
just be here and just work through it. Yeah.

00:43:44.380 --> 00:43:47.280
Then sit at home on the couch and be anxious

00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:53.260
about not being at work, you know? The movement

00:43:53.260 --> 00:43:55.400
and stuff hurts, but it helps to get it out.

00:43:55.420 --> 00:43:58.280
But the medicine and stuff was fine. Like it

00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.199
made it so it cut the edge at least. So it wasn't

00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:03.880
like unbearable. And I just worked through it

00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:08.460
and it was fine. That was right. That was the

00:44:08.460 --> 00:44:12.170
week of the ice storm. Like that was like Monday

00:44:12.170 --> 00:44:15.909
into Tuesday and Friday was when the ice storm

00:44:15.909 --> 00:44:17.610
came in that night. So, yeah.
