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Hello, I'm Patrick Adams. And I'm Caroline Legere.

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And this is Librarians of Littles, a podcast

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where we share books, give makerspace ideas,

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and give tips and tricks for working with our

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youngest learners in the library setting. Today,

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we have two winter holiday books to share as

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it's getting closer to that time of year. The

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first of which is called Happy Holidays. It is

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published by Little Simon, an imprint of Simon

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& Schuster's children's publishing division in

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2022. The author is Cindy Jin, and the illustrator

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is Rob Sayegh Jr. This book is not on any lists

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and has not received any awards, but our author

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Cindy Jin is very elusive. There's not a lot

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about her online other than She lives in New

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York and she writes and edits children's books

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and she has actually written quite a few books.

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Some of them include Supermom, illustrated by

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Jenin Mohamed. How Do You Say Goodnight, illustrated

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by Shirley Benitez. Into the Sandcastle, a Lift

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the Flat book, illustrated by Alison Black. Being

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Brave, illustrated by Ashley Dugan. Lake Life

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with You. illustrated by Andres Lendazabal. The

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Birthday Buddy, illustrated by Letitia Moreno.

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The Wheels on the Costume, illustrated by Lauren

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Lowen. VIP, Very Important Preschooler, illustrated

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by Ella Bailey. 100 Days of Kindness, illustrated

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by Grace Habib. and many more. And before we

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go on, I need to tell you, I need to find this

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book because I want it. She has a book called

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The Wheels on the Costume. And it is a book about

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kids that are in wheelchairs and that kind of

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like, and so how they their costumes can be made

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and used around the wheelchairs and it is all

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rhymes and goes to the Wheels on the Bus song.

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That's cool. I love the inclusion that it it

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pushes for and so I really, really need to get

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a copy of it and add it to my library because

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I think that's amazing. So that's very cool.

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Yeah. Wow. Cool. And the Illustrator. Rob lives

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in San Francisco. He is a former toy designer

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who later became an artist and illustrator. He

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draws inspiration for stories and arts by collecting

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vintage toys and exploring San Francisco. He

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frequently does school visits both in person

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and virtual. Visits are about 45 minutes each

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and there is a form on his website for those

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interested in setting up a school visit with

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him. And some of his other books include Arlo

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Draws an Octopus by Lori Mortenson, I'm Not Scared

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You're Scared by Seth Meyers, Cue Pig by Claire

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Tattersfield, and One Summer Night by Tammy Solzano.

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And so for this book it is a very cute book that

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is in rhyme and just points out that many families

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celebrate different holidays during the winter

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months, but it all kind of revolves around being

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with family and spending time together and making

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memories. It's a very cute little book. It's

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not super long, but I really love that it mentions

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more than just like the one main winter. Holiday,

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it includes Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, and

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even Christmaca, which is awesome because I have

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a very diverse... campus of students and not

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every one of my students quite a few actually

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do not actually celebrate Christmas and so to

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be inclusive and be like yes Christmas is a thing

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and not to discredit it but to also include some

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of those other holidays that other students celebrate

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is just really nice and it's a it's a really

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cute story and I love that with each mention

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of each holiday there's like a little Christmas

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card that's made to celebrate each of those holidays

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and the illustrations are just kind of they're

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very bright and colorful and cute and like there's

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again I love books that have inclusion so there's

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a there's a child that's in a wheelchair and

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there's like families with very diverse like

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skin tone colors and it's you know like it just

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shows all the different kinds of families and

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like they chose grandparents with their grandchildren

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and all the things it's just a really sweet story

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that I really enjoy. I like to use this with

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my pre -K students because a lot of them, if

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they celebrate Christmas, they don't realize

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other things are going on other than Christmas.

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That's true. Let's be real. We're in a very Christian

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society where that is the focus. But there, I

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have quite a few students that they celebrate

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something else. And so to bring that in and to

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expose those children that have only celebrated

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Christmas to the understanding that, hey, there's

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other things going on too that are about spending

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time with family and enjoying the season together.

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And so it's just a really nice book to be able

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to share with those students and I enjoy it a

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lot. I love it. This was the first time that

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I had the privilege of reading this one, and

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I do love how inclusive it is. It was really

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good. It was nice and short and to the point,

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but it just really made sure to really include

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everyone, which was fabulous. Yeah, because it's

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hard to make sure that everybody is included,

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but this book does an excellent job of doing

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that. When I was in the classroom, I always like

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doing the winter holidays in general always made

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me a little bit nervous. That was a big part

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of our curriculum for a long time. We had like

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three solid weeks where it was just like winter

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holidays. And that was, I always at the beginning

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of that unit, On the very first day, I always

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sent home a letter explaining to families that

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we would be learning about different holidays

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and I asked families to write back and let me

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know if there's any holidays that they celebrate

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that they wanted us to cover in school so that

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we would make sure that we would include everybody

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within our classroom and just make sure that

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nobody was left out if they wanted to learn about.

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themselves or see themselves in the curriculum

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there. And I think in the library, in the classroom,

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it's, you know, it's kind of reasonable to send

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that one letter home for 20 kids and to make

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sure all 20 kids are included. And like, you

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know, if parent, then parents have the choice,

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if they want us to learn about their, you know,

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celebrations, we can celebrate with them. And

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if they, you know, don't, that's okay too. You

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do you, that's cool. In the library, though,

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serving so many kids, it's really, really hard

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to make sure that everybody is included, especially

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with something like this, where you don't really

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know what everybody celebrates. And the assumption,

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I think, is naturally to assume that everybody

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celebrates Christmas, just because the way our

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society is. But that's obviously not the case.

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We do have a lot of different religions and celebrations

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going on and some people abstain altogether and

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that's okay too. So I just love that this one

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just makes sure that everybody is included to

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the best of our ability and that we do recognize

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that there are, you know, we have differences

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and that's cool. We're still all celebrating.

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It's still a happy time of year, no matter what.

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So it's great. I love it. And that's the thing,

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like my school, for better or worse, they have

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every year that like they put up a Christmas

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tree in the front office and that kind of thing.

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And I keep the library pretty neutral and I've

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had teachers ask like, well, why don't you put,

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and I have to explain like, because first off

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we have kids coming in every morning. We have

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like groups of kids that wear head jeans and

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like clearly they're not. celebrating Christmas,

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the library should be a very welcoming place.

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And so I want everyone to feel welcome and not

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to intentionally exclude anyone. So that's the

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first thing. But then, like, I will read some

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like, I will read this book this year with the

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kids. Because just pretending it's not happening

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doesn't make sense either. No. So like, making

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sure that you just want to do it in a respectful

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way and make sure that you're not being exclusive.

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You know, one of my favorite parts when I was

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at my last campus was when we did have like the

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PE teacher and the music teacher and I would

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get together and we would each do a lesson. Like

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we pulled the whole group that we were seeing

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together and do a lesson on three different holidays

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that were happening in winter and kind of. each

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of us would take one to focus on and we would

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do a little mini lesson and we'd get to do three

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all three of them in the time that we saw the

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students and it was really cool to see the students

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be like oh i i do that at home but i didn't know

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others do that like and get to see the differences

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because i think that's a big part of this time

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of year is like yeah even though there are differences

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most of these holidays come down to the celebration

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of of family and being togetherness and just

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that kind, you know, and like there is that similarity

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that that thread we can keep together. And like,

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if we can hold onto that and make things happen

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that way. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there are

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like, yeah. And like you said, there's a lot

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of similarities with a lot of them. Like almost

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all of them include some kind of a gift giving

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or, you know, just being kind in general. Yeah.

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Yeah. Being with family. Yeah. That kind of stuff.

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Absolutely. It's good. Yeah. This book is great

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for that. You know, what's fun that I haven't

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told you about yet. So my new campus is I, there's

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going to be two things happening in the library

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this year in the month of December. One that

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I guess they've always done that I don't really

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know about. Too much other than I know that Santa

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comes to the library. I don't know when. I think

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there's a family event at one night. And like

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Christmas comes to the library. I don't know.

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There's a Christmas tree in my back office. I

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guess I have to set it up. I'm not sure. So that'll

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be happening. But I have, I have thoughts, but

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okay. I know you do. I know I feel them. I'm

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not sure how that really looks just yet. I've

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just been told Santa comes and there's gonna

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be a lot of Christmas happening. I don't know

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what it looks like. I don't know. It's this campus's

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tradition. So this year I'm just gonna honor

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their traditions and we'll roll with it. The

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other fun thing that I'm 90 % sure is going to

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happen, not positive yet, is during the month

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of December to make it more inclusive. I'm gonna

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get to do a snowman at night theme throughout

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the whole school and it's my last campus. I know

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you already know this but nobody else does yet.

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We used to have a massive polar express day and

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I organized like a train ride for all the kids

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and Santa came and he brought cookies or he brought

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hot chocolate and bells and magic snow from the

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North Pole and it was it was a magical day but

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it always made me slightly uncomfortable because

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of everything we've been talking about with the

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inclusivity and such. I did emphasize the book

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a lot and made sure that there was a literature

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connection, but I knew I was intentionally excluding

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kids, more or less, and I didn't like that. This

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campus, I was talking to some other people about

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Polar Express Day and I was a little sad that

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I wasn't going to bring magic. But then I was

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like kind of glad that I wasn't going to, you

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know, focus on just Christmas. So this year,

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I think we're going to do a snowman at night

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theme and do like winterize the library and bring

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in a massive snow machine for the playground.

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And I know I'm pretty sure it's going to happen.

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We started looking at vendors. and do like, like

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cut up snowflakes and hang them around the library.

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I'm very excited already. And I don't, I don't

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know, I've got Book Fair in a couple weeks, so

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I have Book Fair brain, so I haven't figured

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out all the little things that are going to go

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along with it. But I'm pretty excited. I still

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get to do a massive like winter event. And since

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it's going to be more snow themed, it'll be more

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inclusive for everybody, and the snowflakes and

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such can stay up until February, and I'm very

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excited. I'm gonna have to figure out how that

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works soon. I don't know. It's gonna be great.

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That's my little tangent for today. I hope you

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enjoyed it. That does sound interesting. No,

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I do. I did enjoy it because it made me think.

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Have you read Peter Reynolds' The Gift of Words?

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I don't think so. Okay. you need to read it.

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Because in it, it's about this boy that's looking

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for words of hope and love and joy. And in it,

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he collects these words and puts them all over

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a tree. So if you're going to have a tree in

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your library, you could read the book and have

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students come up with words and that's what you

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put on the tree. So then it's still more inclusive

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because it doesn't have to be specifically Christmas,

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but it can be words of affirmation and words

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of hope and joy. I like that. That you need to

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do this. That's great. Okay, there you go. And

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like they even have like on the Scholastic website

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for Peter Reynolds, they even have like a an

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activity sheet where it's like the gift of words

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and it explains and then it just has like where

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kids can brainstorm words before they make like

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a thing to put on the tree and stuff. So there

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you go. Thank you. I like that. That would be

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if I was going to be if it's like a you have

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to put up this Christmas tree. Like that's how

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I would end up getting around that. Cause I don't

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like that. Like not that I don't like Christmas

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trees. I have, we have a Christmas tree at my

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house that will be put up after Thanksgiving.

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Like it's not that I'm against Christmas. It's

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just that in, in the library setting, I don't

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want to exclude any of my students. And so like

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that might be a way where those students can

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still be included because they're it's not about

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a religious thing. It's just those, those words

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that are comforting and joyful and happy that

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are being put on the tree. And so like, they

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could be included in that without it becoming

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like a thing, you know? We got off on a really

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big tangent for this one, which was a really

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long, I know. It was important conversation.

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It was good. Yeah. All right, so the makerspace

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activity for this book. The makerspace activity

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that I would do with this book for my students

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is I bust out the card stock and have them make

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a winter card and have them draw a picture of

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how their family celebrates during the winter.

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And so they can make it as unique as they want

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it to be for them. It might just be a picture

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of just their family. It might be a picture of

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their family with a Christmas tree and Santa

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Claus. It might be a picture of their family

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with a menorah. It might, you know, there's all

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the different things that it could be, but it's

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up to the student to decide what part of winter

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and those winter holidays is important to them

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to put on it. And then I would have some like

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different like words pre -written up on like

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a board for them so they could put something

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inside. The the card itself and then they'd have

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a little card to take home. I Love that holiday.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's super cool. Very personalized.

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Yeah, love it So that'd be a nice way just to

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be oh allowed them to make it something that's

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You know unique to them and personal for them.

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So yeah, I like that's very cool Yeah, especially

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around that time of year like Don't like you

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know I don't pull out the crayons and markers

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and stuff too often because it becomes like a

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giant mess, but When we're getting close to winter

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break Kind of just steer into the skid and go

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with it right like it's gonna be a mess It's

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gonna be all the things everywhere, so let's

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just roll with it and just go ahead. Let's do

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it live it up And so this brings us to our library

00:18:56.900 --> 00:19:00.920
of littles management tip. And so as we're talking

00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:02.740
about winter holiday, something else that happens

00:19:02.740 --> 00:19:06.960
in December is hour of code. And for many people,

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hour of code is something that's done with the

00:19:10.099 --> 00:19:13.900
older students where they sit on a computer and

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practice coding using maybe like the hour of

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code website or other apps or programs that are

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set up for that purpose. that becomes really

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limiting, especially for our younger students,

00:19:26.890 --> 00:19:32.009
our pre -K students who coding is a skill that

00:19:32.009 --> 00:19:35.750
they can begin building the foundation for. Cause

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really what it comes down to at the pre -K level

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is it's a lot of learning cause and effect. I

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told the machine to do this and then this happened.

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And so there are some amazing tools that are

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available to practice teaching coding to our

00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:59.660
younger learners. If you start really big, there

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are the let's go code activities, which have

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basically they're squares of different shapes

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and colors that have different movements and

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they're big enough for kids to stand on. And

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so you can put those on the floor and code having

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the kids walk through the library following the

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the steps that are on the cards so that you can

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have that whole body movement then we can move

00:20:23.900 --> 00:20:27.960
on to things like the code and go mouse or the

00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:32.579
code and go mouse robots or the bee bots or i

00:20:32.579 --> 00:20:37.440
love using things like the coda pillar i have

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to be honest though i enjoyed coda pillar before

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they altered it i enjoyed coda pillar when you

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had to plug the pieces in together Yeah, they

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don't do that anymore. The new code of pillars,

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it's all already connected and you just turn

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a dial on each segment to change what it does.

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The old ones, each segment did a specific thing

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and so you could unplug them and plug them back

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in and they're all USB port plugs just getting

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plugged in. And so you could change it that way.

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And I liked the physically having to take it

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apart and put it back together to change the

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movements. Cause I think that was more of like

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a concrete change, as opposed to just turning

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a dial on the piece to change what it does for

00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:30.339
the kids. But I digress. There's also the botly,

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the coding robot, which uses a remote control

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to tell it how to move. And one of my favorites

00:21:36.779 --> 00:21:43.740
is actually Cubeto. Cubeto is a wooden robot

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where it's a it's a cube, but it comes with basically,

00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:51.259
it's kind of like a wooden tablet. In the wooden

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tablet, there are spots for you to place plastic

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tiles. Each plastic tile is a certain color and

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those colors tell the robot what to do. And so

00:22:02.779 --> 00:22:05.740
like some of the tiles tell the robot to move

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forward. Some of the tiles tell it to move right.

00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:10.619
Some of it tell it to move left. And there's

00:22:10.619 --> 00:22:13.339
even a tile that tells it to follow the function.

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And then at the bottom of the the tablet, the

00:22:15.849 --> 00:22:20.430
wooden tablet, there are four open spaces that

00:22:20.430 --> 00:22:22.369
you can make functions. So like when you put

00:22:22.369 --> 00:22:26.410
that function piece into the code, it does the

00:22:26.410 --> 00:22:28.910
four steps that you tell it to do in the function,

00:22:28.970 --> 00:22:32.069
which is kind of cool. And so all of these things

00:22:32.069 --> 00:22:37.170
allow the kids to move pieces and change things

00:22:37.170 --> 00:22:40.950
to see what the robots can do. And none of them

00:22:40.950 --> 00:22:44.619
require screens, which is really great. I love

00:22:44.619 --> 00:22:47.700
that it doesn't have to be them in front of a

00:22:47.700 --> 00:22:52.539
screen doing the things. The other ones that

00:22:52.539 --> 00:22:55.799
are great are the Sphero Indie because those

00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:58.200
use the mats and it's a little car that just

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follows the mats and you can the mats have a

00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.500
set function but you can go in and change that

00:23:04.500 --> 00:23:06.940
function to be something different so you can

00:23:06.940 --> 00:23:09.440
have the car do different things as they go over

00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:13.460
the different mats and Another fun one is using,

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they're expensive, but using the cubelets as

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well. Like having the kids, telling the kids

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that they need an input, they need an output

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and they need a power source and letting them

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see what they can come up with with those. There's

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lots of different ways that we can introduce

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coding to these younger kids and there are lots

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of fun. There are some really great things available.

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Some of them get very expensive very quickly.

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It's I think in my opinion a lot of them are

00:23:45.539 --> 00:23:47.519
really worth it because it's not the kids just

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sitting in front of a screen It does have them

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physically Doing something not just sitting in

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front of a computer and dragging the thing and

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saying, okay, it's done like and Like this is

00:24:01.619 --> 00:24:04.500
really just at this point at this age It's learning

00:24:04.500 --> 00:24:06.920
cause and effect and if it doesn't do what I

00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:09.539
want it to do. I need to change it so that it

00:24:09.539 --> 00:24:12.359
does what I want it to do and it's a it's a lot

00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:16.000
of fun. I a lot of times what I'll do is I will

00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:20.440
use some of those like the coding mats that like

00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:24.299
the um that I mentioned earlier the let's go

00:24:24.299 --> 00:24:28.019
code activity set and I'll put pieces out and

00:24:28.019 --> 00:24:30.039
I'll let the kids move them around and then like

00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.720
I'm their robot kind of that does what they've

00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:36.240
coded and we see if it works what they want me

00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.460
to be able to do and what I end up doing based

00:24:38.460 --> 00:24:41.180
on what the the mats on the floor that they placed

00:24:41.180 --> 00:24:43.380
tell me to do and that kind of thing. Oh that's

00:24:43.380 --> 00:24:46.319
a great idea. That's kind of usually how I introduce

00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:50.259
it and then we get out like the code and go robots

00:24:50.259 --> 00:24:54.299
and stuff like that to let them see. But it's

00:24:54.299 --> 00:24:57.640
a lot of fun, it's a lot of hands -on and I feel

00:24:57.640 --> 00:24:59.900
like that's really where it needs to start with

00:24:59.900 --> 00:25:03.220
these young kids is the hands -on. so that they

00:25:03.220 --> 00:25:06.400
have that tactile part of the learning going

00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:11.180
on. Yeah, they really do need that. Our kids

00:25:11.180 --> 00:25:14.079
spend way too much time on screens in general

00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:17.039
anyway, so the less time we can have them on

00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:20.000
screens, I think, the better, as far as the younger

00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:23.279
learners go. I mean, they're gonna have to be

00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:25.839
on screens eventually, but they just spend so

00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:30.880
much time just stuck there that they... I don't

00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:33.299
feel like as much authentic learning goes on

00:25:33.299 --> 00:25:37.240
as it should, especially when they're given free

00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:40.160
rein most of the time at home to just do whatever

00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:43.900
they want on screens. They view it as an entertainment

00:25:43.900 --> 00:25:47.519
tool rather than something to actually engage

00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:51.480
with and learn on. Although obviously it can

00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:56.400
be used appropriately. They just, I think it's

00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:01.460
even harder to Introduce it, introduce screens

00:26:01.460 --> 00:26:05.059
because we're already working against how much

00:26:05.059 --> 00:26:08.220
time they already spend on screens doing, you

00:26:08.220 --> 00:26:12.299
know, doing absolutely nothing. So yeah, less

00:26:12.299 --> 00:26:16.220
less time on screens is better for a lot of a

00:26:16.220 --> 00:26:19.660
lot of reasons. But yeah, all those are really

00:26:19.660 --> 00:26:23.319
great ways to kind of introduce any kind of coding.

00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.480
And even if you can't afford to buy any of those

00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.690
things. Because you're right, it does get very

00:26:29.690 --> 00:26:32.309
expensive very quickly. There's other ways to

00:26:32.309 --> 00:26:35.009
like, like you can even just introduce like patterning

00:26:35.009 --> 00:26:39.049
or just because really you're telling the robot,

00:26:39.230 --> 00:26:41.329
you're giving the robot instructions, but you

00:26:41.329 --> 00:26:44.450
can't. give the robot instructions if you yourself

00:26:44.450 --> 00:26:46.569
can't take instructions like you still have to

00:26:46.569 --> 00:26:48.670
have that basic understanding of language and

00:26:48.670 --> 00:26:50.970
such so like you could also just have the kids

00:26:50.970 --> 00:26:54.490
follow basic instructions or do basic you know

00:26:54.490 --> 00:26:57.190
ab patterns or something with you know duplo

00:26:57.190 --> 00:27:00.990
legos or something and like just anything like

00:27:00.990 --> 00:27:03.910
that is also a good really basic like if you're

00:27:03.910 --> 00:27:06.230
just working with three and four year olds like

00:27:06.230 --> 00:27:09.690
like really basic skills like that are also really

00:27:09.690 --> 00:27:13.470
important for Future coding skills like following

00:27:13.470 --> 00:27:17.690
directions and patterning like that's That's

00:27:17.690 --> 00:27:19.690
those are skills that the a lot of these kids

00:27:19.690 --> 00:27:23.009
need help with anyway And those are going to

00:27:23.009 --> 00:27:27.329
be foundational for coding later on so I mean

00:27:27.329 --> 00:27:29.769
even if you can't afford any of the fancy stuff

00:27:29.769 --> 00:27:31.549
There's still other things that you can do in

00:27:31.549 --> 00:27:35.849
the library for sure for our code with pre -k

00:27:35.849 --> 00:27:39.769
and Just since we're also talking about our code

00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:42.420
I'm going to plug another book. One of the books

00:27:42.420 --> 00:27:47.680
that I love to use to introduce coding is How

00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:51.019
to Code a Sandcastle by Josh Funk, illustrated

00:27:51.019 --> 00:27:55.279
by Sarah Palacios. That's a great way to introduce

00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.539
the concept also because it talks about like,

00:27:58.619 --> 00:28:01.299
it's really problem solving. This is my problem.

00:28:01.579 --> 00:28:04.680
I need to work to get to a solution and sometimes

00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.549
my solution isn't. gonna work and so I'm gonna

00:28:07.549 --> 00:28:11.029
have to backtrack and try again. And so that's

00:28:11.029 --> 00:28:14.769
a great, great story that I try to use the week

00:28:14.769 --> 00:28:17.269
before Hour of Code so that I've kind of introduced

00:28:17.269 --> 00:28:20.309
the concept before we get our hands on some of

00:28:20.309 --> 00:28:22.470
those things too. Yeah, that's a great book.

00:28:22.690 --> 00:28:27.849
I love that one. Back to winter holidays. The

00:28:27.849 --> 00:28:31.410
next book we're gonna talk about is How Does

00:28:31.410 --> 00:28:33.940
Santa Go Down the Chimney? It's published by

00:28:33.940 --> 00:28:38.779
Candlewick Press in 2023. The author is Mac Barnett

00:28:38.779 --> 00:28:42.519
and the illustrator is John Klassen. And this

00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:47.299
one was a CCBC Choice Selection for 2024 and

00:28:47.299 --> 00:28:52.359
a Junior Library Guild Selection. And the author,

00:28:52.779 --> 00:28:56.980
Mac Barnett, has written a lot of books. He is

00:28:56.980 --> 00:29:00.680
the ninth U .S. National Ambassador for Young

00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:02.970
People's Literature. I didn't know that was a

00:29:02.970 --> 00:29:05.250
thing until this. He was appointed by the Library

00:29:05.250 --> 00:29:08.609
of Congress and Every Child a Reader. He is an

00:29:08.609 --> 00:29:10.789
award -winning, best -selling author of stories

00:29:10.789 --> 00:29:13.289
for children, and his work has been translated

00:29:13.289 --> 00:29:16.049
into more than 30 languages and has sold more

00:29:16.049 --> 00:29:19.250
than five million copies worldwide. He currently

00:29:19.250 --> 00:29:23.740
lives in Oakland, California. And he's written

00:29:23.740 --> 00:29:25.579
a whole lot, so I will not go through all of

00:29:25.579 --> 00:29:28.619
them. But some of his other books are, some of

00:29:28.619 --> 00:29:31.180
the novels he's written are the Terrible 2 series,

00:29:31.220 --> 00:29:34.660
which was written with Jory John. And he also

00:29:34.660 --> 00:29:38.359
did the Mac B Kid Spy series. He did the graphic

00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:43.019
novels, the first Cat in Space series. And he's

00:29:43.019 --> 00:29:46.200
done a whole lot with John Classen for picture

00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:47.680
books. Some of the picture books that they've

00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.400
worked on together are the shapes trilogy, which

00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:55.299
is Triangle, Square and Circle, which also has

00:29:55.299 --> 00:30:00.500
its own show on Apple Plus, Apple TV Plus. I

00:30:00.500 --> 00:30:02.559
don't know what that I don't watch TV. I don't

00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:04.440
know. I was not aware that that existed, but

00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.799
that sounds cool. I didn't know there was a show

00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:09.180
based on it either until this and I guess it's

00:30:09.180 --> 00:30:11.799
in stop motion or something. OK, I don't know.

00:30:12.009 --> 00:30:16.289
I don't really TV. I'm a reader. Yeah, all the

00:30:16.289 --> 00:30:18.269
way. So I don't really know about the TV things,

00:30:18.309 --> 00:30:21.930
but I guess there's a shapes show somewhere on

00:30:21.930 --> 00:30:25.789
Apple TV. So that's cool. Yeah, they've also

00:30:25.789 --> 00:30:28.730
another book that they've done together is the

00:30:28.730 --> 00:30:32.670
wolf, the duck and the mouse. And there was another

00:30:32.670 --> 00:30:35.559
one. I'm missing the Three Billy Goats Gruff.

00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:39.140
Some other books that Mac Barnett has done are

00:30:39.140 --> 00:30:41.740
20 Questions, which is illustrated by Christian

00:30:41.740 --> 00:30:46.299
Robinson. Leo, a ghost story, also illustrated

00:30:46.299 --> 00:30:49.980
by Christian Robinson. And he wrote the Jack

00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:54.359
series with Greg Pizzoli. And really, there's

00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.180
a lot more. I could keep going, but I will not.

00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:04.480
And then we have our illustrator, John Cleson.

00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:07.880
He is a children's book author and illustrator.

00:31:08.779 --> 00:31:13.500
His book, This Is Not My Hat, won the 2012 Caldecott

00:31:13.500 --> 00:31:18.480
Award, as well as the British Kate Greenway Medal

00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.720
for Illustration. He grew up in Niagara Falls

00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:27.240
and Toronto, Ontario. and he later studied animation

00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.720
at Sheridan College and moved to Los Angeles.

00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:35.740
So some of the books that he has done, he has

00:31:35.740 --> 00:31:39.599
written and illustrated the Hat Trilogy, The

00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:44.640
Rock from the Sky and the Skull, Tyrolean Folk

00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.759
Tale, which was, yeah, so those were the ones

00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:50.799
that he wrote and illustrated. Ben, he's also

00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:55.049
illustrated. Cat's Night Out by Carolyn Stutson,

00:31:56.109 --> 00:32:01.529
House Held Up by Trees by Ted Couser, and The

00:32:01.529 --> 00:32:05.650
Dark by Lemony Snicket, and then books by Mac

00:32:05.650 --> 00:32:09.349
Barnett that he has illustrated, The Shape Trilogy,

00:32:09.589 --> 00:32:13.490
Extra Yarn, Sam and Dave Dig a Hole, The Wolf,

00:32:13.589 --> 00:32:16.289
Duck and Mouse, and The Three Billy Goats Gruff.

00:32:17.899 --> 00:32:21.660
And in this book, there's an unseen narrator

00:32:21.660 --> 00:32:24.420
that just imagines different ways that Santa

00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:28.200
might go down the chimney on Christmas Eve, and

00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:34.859
some of the ways get real creative with it. They're

00:32:34.859 --> 00:32:37.039
just imagining the ways that Santa might go down

00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.559
the chimney, and it's like, does he turn into

00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.960
fire? No, probably not fire. I don't know maybe

00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.900
he turns into taffy and gets all stringy and

00:32:47.900 --> 00:32:50.519
that's how he goes down and it's just like really

00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:54.299
creative ways that Santa might go down the chimney

00:32:54.299 --> 00:32:57.880
and what Santa might do when he comes in um when

00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:01.420
he is in the house and like is he good with dogs

00:33:01.420 --> 00:33:05.119
I bet he knows their names the way it's written

00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:09.200
is very like there's only a couple of lines of

00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.950
text on each page So the emphasis is definitely

00:33:12.950 --> 00:33:16.730
on the illustrations. John Classen has won the

00:33:16.730 --> 00:33:20.529
Caldecott for a reason, for sure. The illustrations

00:33:20.529 --> 00:33:23.690
are fabulous. They're in his, you know, signature

00:33:23.690 --> 00:33:26.390
style, so it's like slightly darker and kind

00:33:26.390 --> 00:33:30.430
of, you can tell that it's been manipulated digitally.

00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:34.809
They're fabulous illustrations that really kind

00:33:34.809 --> 00:33:39.220
of make the book. And I love that it's the way

00:33:39.220 --> 00:33:42.980
it's written. It's very much sounds like a kid

00:33:42.980 --> 00:33:49.000
genuinely wondering like How Santa does all of

00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.660
these things like what happens when there's no

00:33:51.660 --> 00:33:55.359
You know chimney. What do we do now? Does he

00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.559
have night vision? I don't know and like I just

00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:02.319
love all the different wonderings in it and I

00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:05.119
think that you could it could begin a dialogue

00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.260
with kids on like different on what they think

00:34:08.260 --> 00:34:13.440
might happen. It's just a very it's I think the

00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.519
illustrations do make it very engaging. It's

00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:19.900
very MacBurnett style for of writing I think

00:34:19.900 --> 00:34:24.340
for picture books at least is very I don't know

00:34:24.340 --> 00:34:26.900
calming I guess like just the way they're written

00:34:26.900 --> 00:34:29.539
they're not rhyming or anything but I just feel

00:34:29.539 --> 00:34:33.150
like it's almost conversational where he's like

00:34:33.150 --> 00:34:36.809
talking directly to you is the way most of his

00:34:36.809 --> 00:34:39.590
books are written for the picture books anyway.

00:34:40.710 --> 00:34:43.650
And I like that there's like really no solution

00:34:43.650 --> 00:34:45.809
at the end of the book so and it leaves it open

00:34:45.809 --> 00:34:48.670
to the kids kind of wondering how he might go

00:34:48.670 --> 00:34:51.389
down the chimney himself. I do like with this

00:34:51.389 --> 00:34:55.409
one in particular how it does focus on Christmas

00:34:55.409 --> 00:34:58.250
and that is obviously a religious holiday but

00:34:58.250 --> 00:35:02.679
I think A lot of people also who celebrate Christmas

00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.420
in our society aren't necessarily religious.

00:35:05.579 --> 00:35:08.559
I think that's just like a societal thing that

00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.099
we do in America. That's just what a lot of us

00:35:12.099 --> 00:35:15.039
do, whether they are Christian or not, which

00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:18.239
is why, like in the last book, you know, there

00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:21.099
was the, how did they phrase it? Hanukrismus?

00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.380
Hanumus? Chrismica. Chrismica. There you go.

00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:29.449
Like, just because like that's it's It is a religious

00:35:29.449 --> 00:35:31.570
holiday and I get that and the you very much

00:35:31.570 --> 00:35:34.989
can go in that direction But being in a school

00:35:34.989 --> 00:35:37.650
library again talking about the inclusivity.

00:35:38.590 --> 00:35:43.210
I I think though there's a Greater like this

00:35:43.210 --> 00:35:46.230
one has a greater chance of like including Everybody

00:35:46.230 --> 00:35:49.210
because it's not going for their religious standpoint

00:35:49.210 --> 00:35:54.610
at all. It's just you know the more of the secular

00:35:54.610 --> 00:35:57.820
version of Christmas so to speak I guess because

00:35:57.820 --> 00:36:01.260
there is I mean the reality is there is kind

00:36:01.260 --> 00:36:03.820
of a lot of different ways that you could approach

00:36:03.820 --> 00:36:07.179
Christmas and this one I think is a little bit

00:36:07.179 --> 00:36:11.099
more inclusive. I would pair this with another

00:36:11.099 --> 00:36:16.320
holiday as well so that kids can you know recognize

00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:20.300
or learn that there's not just Christmas that

00:36:20.300 --> 00:36:24.360
we're celebrating but I do like the that it's

00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:29.320
a little bit more unique and it's not just like

00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.539
it is Christmas, but it's not, I guess, if that

00:36:31.539 --> 00:36:34.440
makes sense. I think, I mean, well, it is Christmas.

00:36:34.659 --> 00:36:38.159
I'll just admit it that, but it's, I feel like

00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.320
it's a more inclusive Christmas. Absolutely.

00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.940
I really enjoyed this book. It was really cute.

00:36:44.300 --> 00:36:47.719
I love some of the creative ways that they were

00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:50.559
thinking Santa might come in. Like the, if you

00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.659
don't have a chimney, does he slide in through

00:36:52.659 --> 00:36:56.329
like the mail slot and like the idea that Santa

00:36:56.329 --> 00:36:58.909
folds himself up into the size of an envelope

00:36:58.909 --> 00:37:04.929
with a Santa stamp and it's pushed into the slot

00:37:04.929 --> 00:37:06.849
by one of the reindeer or something like that.

00:37:07.369 --> 00:37:08.989
Like there's some really cute ones and I did

00:37:08.989 --> 00:37:11.329
like at the end that it was you know I don't

00:37:11.329 --> 00:37:13.369
know how he does it I'm just glad he does kind

00:37:13.369 --> 00:37:15.750
of thing and I just so like it's still open -ended

00:37:15.750 --> 00:37:19.210
and it's still it's not stepping on anyone's

00:37:19.210 --> 00:37:21.789
toes as far as like how the magic happens it's

00:37:21.789 --> 00:37:25.489
just some ideas and just happy that it happens

00:37:25.489 --> 00:37:29.070
kind of thing. So something's just happened and

00:37:29.070 --> 00:37:34.849
that's okay. Yep. Yeah. So I think for a makerspace

00:37:34.849 --> 00:37:37.750
activity for this one, it might be fun to like

00:37:37.750 --> 00:37:40.170
either build a house and try and fit Santa down

00:37:40.170 --> 00:37:42.429
the chimney. That would be kind of complicated

00:37:42.429 --> 00:37:46.440
though. So really just building any or you could

00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.679
build some kind of a contraption to get Santa

00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:50.659
inside of a house. There's a lot of different

00:37:50.659 --> 00:37:52.860
buildings, I think, that you could do with this

00:37:52.860 --> 00:37:55.719
one because of the different ways that Santa

00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:59.059
might go down the chimney on Christmas Eve. You

00:37:59.059 --> 00:38:01.039
could also just have the kids draw a picture

00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.219
of different ways that they think that Santa

00:38:04.219 --> 00:38:08.480
might go down the chimney. This one might be

00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:12.239
a fun one for... Um, like a class book where

00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.179
everybody comes up with their own way that Santa

00:38:15.179 --> 00:38:17.639
might go down the chimney on Christmas Eve and

00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.480
everybody could, you know, contribute a page

00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.500
to it and dictate a sentence with Santa goes

00:38:23.500 --> 00:38:26.079
down the chimney by, you know, and then they

00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.119
fill in the blank. So there's a lot of different

00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:29.719
directions. I think you could go with this one

00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:32.880
because it is so creative and unique with the

00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:34.579
different ways that Santa goes down the chimney.

00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.039
So yeah. I love those ideas. Yeah. I think, I

00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:42.699
think. a class book would be really fun to to

00:38:42.699 --> 00:38:45.519
see what all their ideas of what how Santa might

00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.099
do it yeah it's pretty cool yeah I think it would

00:38:49.099 --> 00:38:52.179
be a lot of fun it'd be cute I think the kids

00:38:52.179 --> 00:38:53.619
would enjoy reading that together after that

00:38:53.619 --> 00:38:57.699
was all completed too yeah yeah maybe I'll try

00:38:57.699 --> 00:39:00.199
that this year I think I might since I have Santa

00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:03.179
coming to my library apparently yeah we could

00:39:03.179 --> 00:39:12.079
read it to Santa okay anyway Well, thank you

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