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Hello, I'm Patrick Adams. And I'm Caroline Legere.

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And this is Librarians of Littles, a podcast

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where we discuss books, give makerspace ideas

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and tips and tricks for working with our youngest

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learners in the library setting. This week we

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have two excellent books because it is getting

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to be fall. We are not necessarily here in Texas

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seeing the fall weather yet, but we're hoping

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and wishing it into existence. But we have some

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wonderful fall books to share today. The first

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of which is called The Very Last Leaf. It was

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written by Steph Wade. It was illustrated by

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Jennifer Davison. And it was published by Capstone

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Books in 2020. This book ended up on one state

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list for Pennsylvania. The list was the best

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books of 2020. As far as our author, Steph Waite

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holds a BA in advertising from Marquette University

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and an MBA in integrated marketing communication

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from DePaul University. Steph is a member of

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the Society of Children's Book Writers and Illustrators,

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or the SCBWI. She's bounced all over the Midwest

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with her college sweetheart husband and her three

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historically and literary named boys, and currently

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resides in the Milwaukee area. Some of her other

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books include A Place for Pluto, illustrated

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by Melanie Demmer. Every Day's a Holiday, Winnie's

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Birthday Countdown, illustrated by Hasna Agnia,

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Moving to Mars, illustrated by Aaron Taylor,

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and Q &U, Call it Quits, illustrated by Jorge

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Martin. And for the illustrator history, Jennifer

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Davison is a passionate and acclaimed illustrator

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who has illustrated over 50 picture books, touching

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hearts across the globe and being translated

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into 18 different languages for publishers worldwide.

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After graduating from the Belfast School of Art

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with a first class honors degree, Jennifer embarked

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on her journey as a digital artist. It was her

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deep rooted passion for illustration that guided

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her toward a fulfilling career as a children's

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book illustrator. Years ago, she discovered a

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profound connection between creativity and spirituality,

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which ignited a desire to convey the richness

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of heaven's culture through her art. She strives

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to create illustrations that are not only visually

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captivating, but also have the potential to transform

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lives. Today, she dedicates her time to illustrating

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inspiring faith -based books and stories from

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the Bible, including the beloved Very Best Bible

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Stories series and God's Big Promises Bible Storybook.

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Some of her other books include The Shrew with

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the Flu, Written by Will Hamilton Davies, Mouse

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and the Rocket by Tim Bailey, and The Six -Legged

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Spider also by Tim Bailey. And so I think part

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of I was looking at Jennifer Davison's stuff

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and I couldn't find a ton of her books listed.

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It says in her biography that she has done over

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50. I think a lot of them are faith -based and

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maybe not through the major publishers, which

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makes it a little bit more challenging to find

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some of her work because it's not necessarily

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as mainstream. But good for her for doing all

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those books. That's pretty awesome. Alright,

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so the summary for this book. We have Lance Cottonwood,

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who is a leaf, and he is the best and brightest

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student on the Cottonwood tree branch. He was

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best at budding, at wind resistance, at photosynthesis,

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and pigment changing. But, Lance is afraid to

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fall from the branch as the last exam of the

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season. Lance is able to overcome his fear and

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finally falls to be with the other students of

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the Cottonwood Tree Branch. And this is a really

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cute story. I enjoyed reading it. It's a story

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about overcoming your fears. It includes some

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very, very special and awesome scientific words

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that I think would be a lot of fun to include

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in a discussion with the students. And it's nice

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that the way they're used in the book, you don't

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necessarily have to pre teach because it does

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give like an explanation of what that means in

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the story itself. So that's nice, but you could

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pre teach them in advance if you wanted to. The

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pictures are colorful and very cute. There's

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also a little bit of like teasing that you could

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have a conversation, you could pull this in for

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a conversation about bullying, about fear of

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change, about nature in general. So there's lots

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of opportunities to bring this book in to have

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different discussions with your class, which

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I love to be able to use books for different

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reasons. So that's always a good thing. I think

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this book would be very engaging, because the

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kids are always loving anything about nature.

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So like the leaves changing and that kind of

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thing is always something that is fun to watch.

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We don't get to see it as often here in Texas,

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but they do change. They go pretty quickly from

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green to orange and brown. But, you know, that's

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something that the kids do notice and they start

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to pick up on those things. And so having books

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that mention why and what's going on in a fun

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story way. is always good. I like this book a

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lot. I think I'd probably give it, I don't know,

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I think maybe like a four and a half out of five.

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I think it was good. I think some of the leaves

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that fall before Lance, they're kind of harsh

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on him. But I think it was a good story, so yeah.

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Yeah, this was a really good book. This was the

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first time I got into read it. I love that it

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does introduce lots of really great vocabulary

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words and it kind of teaches them in a pretty

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developmentally appropriate way. It still like

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very much reads like a fiction book. It's clearly

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fiction, but it does teach a lot of really great

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nonfiction concepts and like everything down

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to like You know Lance is named Lance because

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he's a I forgot the full name of the cottonwood

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It's a Lance something cottonwood but like you

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can have a lot of conversations with why things

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are the way they are and Like why the story is

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going in that direction and it's all very science

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-based. So it's a really great kind of book for

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cross curricular literature in general. It's

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pulling in a lot of different directions and

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I love it. It was really good. And I did really

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enjoy at the very end his report card because

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it goes through and explains what each of those

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things like what budding is and what the wind

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resistance is and how it impacts the leaf and

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what it does for the tree and that kind of stuff.

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So it gave a lot more in -depth information about

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those things as well as a nice little way to

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end the story. So it was a good book. It was

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fun. It was. It was cute. Good one. Yes. A makerspace

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activity for this. If we're going to use this

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in makerspace, I would... You can do one of two

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things with this. You can go out and actually

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pick up some leaves off the ground, or maybe

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you can get some of the fake leaves from like

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the Hobby Lobby or Michael's or something like

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that. Either way, I think it would work out perfectly.

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With that, you take some paint, have some paper.

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I think what I would try and do is something

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similar to the glue in the sponge and put some

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paint in the sponge and see if we could make

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that work. But if you wanted, you could use some

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paint brushes and have them paint on the back

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of the leaves. But the idea is to have the kids

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get paint on the back of the leaves. I think

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you could do it by putting some paint on a sponge

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and putting the... the leaf on the sponge, and

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then using that leaf to kind of make stamp impressions

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on the paper. And then if like they so the kids

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could take different shapes of leaves and get

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paint on them and make different paint stamps

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on their paper. And then if you really wanted

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to challenge the kids have them take use the

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leaves to make stamps and make something else

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out of those stamps, like you could take the

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different stamps and make them so that they make

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like a landscape with a bunch of trees or maybe

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they could make like a bunny rabbit using the

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leaves or maybe they can make a dog using the

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leaves and so having some extra markers to have

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that they could add little defining features

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to those stamps and get even more creative with

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it would be a fun way to take what's already

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going to be a fun activity of being able to stamp

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and make the leaf prints and then make it into

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something even more and kind of stretch that

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imagination a little bit more. I love that. It's

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a very creative way to go about including those

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leaves and their artwork and kind of encouraging

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our kids to be more creative with what they create.

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I love it. That's great. Have you read the book,

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If You Find a Leaf by Amy Sekiro? I have read

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that before. It's been a while. That one? Yes.

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Yeah, I think that one does the same thing with

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the illustrations. That's a good one to do Yeah

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Maybe maybe subconsciously. That's what I was

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thinking of when I came up with that idea, you

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know, yeah, maybe That would so that would be

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a good one to thought like you could have them

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do this activity and then follow up the week

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by reading that one and being like look what

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this one what this author did to kind of follow

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up to I would. Yeah, that's a good connection

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there. All right, that brings us to our library

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of little's management tip for this week. And

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so we're going to be discussing the pros and

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cons of using reading calendars or doing like

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reading bingo activities with our students, specifically

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our pre -k and kinder students that are younger.

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And to be upfront, there are definitely pros

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and cons to these activities. Caroline, you and

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I tend to lean towards not doing them anymore.

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In the past we have done them. I found that they

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became problematic pretty quickly for a couple

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different reasons. But the way we did our original

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reading calendars was in the grading period.

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We had a paper that was landscape and on it basically

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it explained that the whole purpose was to have

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the students adults at home reading with the

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students. And then for pre -K being that these

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are little kids, the way it worked is there were

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like a grading period, it's about six weeks.

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And so we had six sections where it asked for

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the adult to write down the name of the book

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and the author. And then there was an open space

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for the students to be able to draw a picture

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of something from the book that they enjoyed,

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right? And so. between the front and back of

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the paper there were the six sections for the

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kids to fill out and at the end of the six weeks

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the grading at the end of the grading period

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they could turn that in when i was doing it we

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had like the first time they turned it in they

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got a keychain that had um our campus uh mascot

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on it and it said like i'm a reader kind of thing

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and then each one after that that they completed,

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they got a spirit stick that had different like

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reading themes on it that they could add to the

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key chain. That was the intent behind it was

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to just incentive to have the adults reading

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with the students. What it quickly became was

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I had so many issues from the start with it.

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I had where like the form would be finished.

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and turned into me, and it was clearly the adult

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that did all of the work, like the picture, the

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writing, all of it. Which, again, the con of

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that is that the student isn't getting the opportunity

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to express themselves, and they're not the ones

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that are doing any of the real work. The parent

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may be reading with the student, which is the

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general goal, but there's no Real proof of that

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happening. So I wasn't really sure if that was

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actually being done another thing I had was the

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where it like parents would fill out like or

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they would do like two of them and Then send

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it back and be like we did it Well, you were

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supposed to do six of them. So like Do you get

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do you get the reward for doing it too? When

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the other kids are getting the reward for doing

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so that became an issue I had on the campus originally

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we had bilingual classes with us also. So we

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had Spanish bilingual classes and Vietnamese

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bilingual classes. And so we had versions of

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it that were in those languages. And that's like

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another random thing that happened was I had

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the Vietnamese teacher coming to me telling me

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that their families didn't actually speak Vietnamese,

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so they needed English copies of the form. And

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so that was just slightly frustrating, because

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that was a whole other issue. But we had stuff

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like that happening. And the other part is it

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wasn't the easiest thing to keep track of. I

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had to have like a folder for every class. And

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then every time they'd bring the form back, I'd

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have to go through that folder to find it if

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they'd given me the ones from earlier in the

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year to decide if they needed the original key

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chain or if they got the spirits. So keeping

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track of that stuff wasn't the best. And honestly,

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I don't know. Like I said to you before, I'm

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100 % sure that some of the students that turned

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these in actually sat down with their adult and

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read. But I also know that there were definitely

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some students that never saw the books that were

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written down on that paper and turned in. And

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so it's really hard. to verify that. And the

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other part is, is I don't have the time, energy,

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or honestly the willpower to argue with the parent

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about any of those issues. It's not worth my

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time. And so then it quickly became, well, I'm

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not gonna fight this. So here's the reward. And

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then at that point I was like, but so why am

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I doing this? If they're not like, I don't know

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that they're really doing the work. when I can

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be using my time in other ways to give the kids

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other opportunities to be reading and that kind

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of thing. And like using my time for other things.

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That was a lot of my issues with it. You were

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telling me some of your problems with it too,

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like becoming way too big of a thing too, right?

00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:52.779
Yeah. Yeah. So my biggest problem that I had

00:16:52.779 --> 00:16:55.799
on my campus was we started out small, like you

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were describing. where and it was the librarian

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before me started it and it started out small

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with just like they would do fill out their little

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reading log and they would come turn it in and

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they'd get their little keychain or their spirit

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stick every six weeks and that was okay with

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the caveats that you were explaining but ultimately

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it was still just a small little program to kind

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of encourage reading at home and it remained

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a program to continue. to encourage reading at

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home. However, the librarian before me kept adding

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more and more things to it, and by the time she

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left, in her final year, the things that it included,

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if they did all of the, they had to do all the

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reading logs for the whole year, which was a

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total of six, because it's six weeks, then they

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would get a T -shirt, a trophy, a pizza party,

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and a magic show with an actual magician coming

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into the library just for them. And it was like

00:18:05.579 --> 00:18:11.059
this big, like hour -long celebration. And while

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I agree with celebrating reading, and we should

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do that, it was just, it ended up being so much

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stuff. Like, first of all, pre -K, They they're

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not gonna make that connection that's gonna be

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so far removed from the reading I don't think

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very many of those kids are going to connect

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that they got to have this celebration in this

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magic show because they read For an entire school

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year and had to continuously keep reading I don't

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think that connection is going to be made because

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it's way too delayed as far as a reward goes

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and then There was so much with a program like

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that at the you know pre -k kinder age They can

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there's a few kids who are going to be responsible

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enough and Cognizant enough to go home and talk

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to their grown -ups and tell them that they want

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to read and it's for this reason but the vast

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majority aren't going to do that and it's more

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of like you kind of need to connect with the

00:19:23.539 --> 00:19:25.779
parents and tell the parents this is what's happening

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because the parents are going to actually have

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to be the ones facilitating a bit more and making

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those connections with the kids for you. So there

00:19:35.819 --> 00:19:37.960
was a lot of kids that are being left out because

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if they missed even one of those, then they're

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out for the giant celebration at the end of the

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year. And then that was also kind of angering

00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:51.799
some of the teachers at our school. So then As

00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:56.119
a work around those teachers were like you know

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what we read every day in our classroom this

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is going to be something that i complete with

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every single one of our kids and those teachers

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filled out the forms with their kids and they

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they did read the books they legit did the reading

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log but it was in their classroom it wasn't the

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extension that it was intended to be and they

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kind of. did that little work around so that

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every single one of their kids got to participate

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in the massive little magic show giant celebration

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pizza party thing at the end of the school year.

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And then after so after at that point, it was

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like, okay, so some classes are fully participating

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and all the kids are getting the things and then

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how do I tell these classes that only like these

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two kids get to come to the things and it was

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it was I think if you are going to implement

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something like this, it's imperative to keep

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a good reward, a tangible reward, so that the

00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:05.019
kids do make a connection. And you want it tangible,

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too, so the parents can see, so that they know

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that their kid's getting something out of it,

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because the parents really are going to have

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to put forth effort to do it with their kids

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as well. But just something a little bit smaller

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because you do ultimately the goal is it is to

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read But we want reading to be a lifelong thing

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that they just love because they love to read

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We don't want them doing it because they get

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a magic show at the end of the school year. So

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like keeping it smaller is Will make it easier

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to transition it from an external reward to an

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intrinsic one later on as they go get older,

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it's just an easier way to weed them off of it.

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If you make it massive, it's harder to scale

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it back in the future. I'm also just trying to

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think about that money coming out of your budget

00:22:01.670 --> 00:22:06.309
for that. And as more and more teachers have

00:22:06.309 --> 00:22:08.329
their whole class do it, that means you're spending

00:22:08.329 --> 00:22:10.769
more money on pizza and you're doing more of

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it. and it just becomes more and more expensive

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with and with our library budgets being cut year

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after year because school district budgets are

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being cut like that's a big chunk of money being

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spent on a celebration that the kids aren't actually

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making that connection to oh this is because

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i read like you know yeah yeah ultimately i think

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i think if i could go do it all over again I'm

00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:42.319
not sure I would participate in that but I think

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I would do some sort of a I would try and do

00:22:45.500 --> 00:22:49.680
a parent outreach thing instead and kind of and

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try and educate parents more about the importance

00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:55.519
of reading at home and kind of let them know

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because there's a lot of little things about

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um reading that parents don't realize like they

00:23:01.700 --> 00:23:04.980
don't realize that it's a like reading is important

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but you can totally if your kid's into it Read

00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:11.519
the same book 20 times. You might not enjoy it,

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but like your kids are still getting the same

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benefits from it. You know, we're still learning

00:23:16.299 --> 00:23:19.440
print concepts. We're still, you know, solidifying

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the vocabulary. It takes more than one reading

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to really grasp all the vocabulary and all the

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concepts that are being that we're reading about,

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like especially for younger kids where they're

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because they're little sponges and they're learning

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all the things all the time. Because they don't

00:23:36.910 --> 00:23:39.130
have all the background world knowledge that

00:23:39.130 --> 00:23:41.890
we as adults do so like it's okay to read it

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a few times and It's you know, it's okay. If

00:23:46.069 --> 00:23:50.329
it's a shorter book. It's like in for even for

00:23:50.329 --> 00:23:52.769
our Parents of older kids like it's okay if it's

00:23:52.769 --> 00:23:54.609
a graphic novel and has lots of pictures still

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it's all good Reading is reading will accept

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any form of reading. Thank you very much You

00:24:00.430 --> 00:24:03.369
know, I think that would be more effective. I

00:24:03.369 --> 00:24:06.809
yeah, but Yeah, breeding logs are still okay.

00:24:06.869 --> 00:24:10.730
I'm not saying don't do them. Just with caution.

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Proceed with caution, especially for the youngest

00:24:13.769 --> 00:24:19.250
kids. Yeah, and just be mindful that these situations

00:24:19.250 --> 00:24:23.349
and these issues may arise. And if nothing else,

00:24:23.549 --> 00:24:27.349
be prepared for them. Just have a plan in place

00:24:27.349 --> 00:24:29.390
of maybe what you want to do about it. And if

00:24:29.390 --> 00:24:30.890
it's something like that, you're just going to

00:24:30.890 --> 00:24:32.910
be like, well, I'm just not going to fight it

00:24:32.910 --> 00:24:37.390
or whatever. you know, just be prepared. I do

00:24:37.390 --> 00:24:40.470
think that like the key chain and the spirit

00:24:40.470 --> 00:24:44.049
sticks is not a terrible, tangible reward. Cause

00:24:44.049 --> 00:24:46.130
it is something small. It's not gonna, it's something

00:24:46.130 --> 00:24:50.210
that the kids can hold and have. They're not

00:24:50.210 --> 00:24:55.910
crazy expensive. And so like, I always, always

00:24:55.910 --> 00:24:57.750
tried to keep the, and the spirit sticks that

00:24:57.750 --> 00:25:00.470
I got were always, like book themed so that I

00:25:00.470 --> 00:25:02.430
could be like, remember this is you got this

00:25:02.430 --> 00:25:04.250
because you read kind of thing. So at least being

00:25:04.250 --> 00:25:06.609
able to try and connect it back every time to

00:25:06.609 --> 00:25:11.609
the reading kind of thing. It just becomes like

00:25:11.609 --> 00:25:14.589
a, you just have to have a process in place to

00:25:14.589 --> 00:25:16.369
make sure that you're keeping track of it. And

00:25:16.369 --> 00:25:19.109
then, you know, it's just, there's a lot that

00:25:19.109 --> 00:25:23.190
goes into it and a lot of things that if you're,

00:25:23.190 --> 00:25:26.250
if you're brand new to it, you'll find real quick

00:25:26.250 --> 00:25:29.420
that there are lots of other parts to it that

00:25:29.420 --> 00:25:32.720
you didn't plan for. So thinking it through,

00:25:32.819 --> 00:25:35.700
thinking about the real goals that you want to

00:25:35.700 --> 00:25:41.359
have and the real purpose behind it before you

00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.259
choose to do any of it. Because I think you're

00:25:45.259 --> 00:25:50.539
right. I think that if I Could have like there's

00:25:50.539 --> 00:25:53.319
not an opportunity for me to have like all of

00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:56.099
my pre -k Parents or all of my kindergarten parents

00:25:56.099 --> 00:25:58.279
in one place where I could just sit and talk

00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:01.819
to them first Like at like an open house or something

00:26:01.819 --> 00:26:04.460
like that like if I could sit and be like here's

00:26:04.460 --> 00:26:07.180
why? Reading is important and be able to go through

00:26:07.180 --> 00:26:09.299
like the list of all the things that are happening

00:26:09.299 --> 00:26:11.680
in the child's brain While they're reading and

00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:13.359
why it's important to do it every day and that

00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:16.700
kind of thing and then be like and to encourage

00:26:16.700 --> 00:26:21.400
it we're gonna do this and then explain that.

00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.240
I think that would have a more impact on the

00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:28.039
families but it comes down to the time and getting

00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:31.680
those parents all in one place together and that's

00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:34.480
the part that doesn't become so feasible. And

00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:36.559
so then you're hoping that they're reading a

00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:40.519
paper that you're sending home and we know the

00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:44.400
realities of that and so it gets diluted really

00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:50.190
quick. Having said all that I did continue to

00:26:50.190 --> 00:26:54.289
send home reading bingo for read across America

00:26:54.289 --> 00:26:57.789
day to encourage more reading at home and they

00:26:57.789 --> 00:27:03.049
the kids just got I think for that one I Think

00:27:03.049 --> 00:27:05.210
I had I still had all the spirit sticks. I think

00:27:05.210 --> 00:27:08.470
they got spirit sticks. Yeah Well, and I mean

00:27:08.470 --> 00:27:10.950
like our school district this you like you'll

00:27:10.950 --> 00:27:13.869
find this coming summer They'll send home a reading

00:27:13.869 --> 00:27:19.779
bingo blackout sheet And it's for every grade

00:27:19.779 --> 00:27:25.059
level. And so like, here's the thing though.

00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:29.700
Honestly, I have on my campus, I had 720 students

00:27:29.700 --> 00:27:34.519
at the end of last year. I think I got eight

00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:38.640
of the reading bingo blackouts back from the

00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.819
summer. That's surprising. So that one I'm not

00:27:42.819 --> 00:27:46.829
like, and I'm... whether those eight kids read

00:27:46.829 --> 00:27:48.710
all the books or not at that point. I'm like,

00:27:48.730 --> 00:27:50.390
well, there's only eight of you. It's fine. We'll

00:27:50.390 --> 00:27:52.029
submit your names kind of thing. And actually

00:27:52.029 --> 00:27:54.529
one of the students on my campus did win. And

00:27:54.529 --> 00:27:56.710
she is one that I know actually read all the

00:27:56.710 --> 00:28:01.630
books, which is nice. So like there, if it's

00:28:01.630 --> 00:28:04.950
done correctly, it can be very beneficial and

00:28:04.950 --> 00:28:10.430
it will impact some families. I wish we could

00:28:10.430 --> 00:28:13.210
find a way that it was more effective and impacted

00:28:13.210 --> 00:28:16.809
more families, but there's only so much we can

00:28:16.809 --> 00:28:22.049
do. So just having that understanding of this

00:28:22.049 --> 00:28:26.869
will help some and maybe that's enough for you

00:28:26.869 --> 00:28:30.269
to do it. Maybe it's not. It depends on really

00:28:30.269 --> 00:28:34.589
on your, your campus and your goals, I think.

00:28:34.589 --> 00:28:38.160
Yeah. So just understand there are pros and cons

00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:42.359
and like there's not one blanket like this is

00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:44.759
how it should be done or this is the way to do

00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:49.799
it. There's so many little things that will impact

00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:54.460
how that works for you on campus. It's true.

00:28:56.339 --> 00:28:59.640
All right. Well, the next book that we're going

00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.140
to talk about, I cheated. This isn't just fall.

00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.000
This does all four seasons. This is Tap the Magic

00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:09.920
Tree. It's published by Greenwillow Books in

00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.980
2013, and the author and illustrator is Kristi

00:29:12.980 --> 00:29:16.619
Matheson. This book is a Junior Library Guild

00:29:16.619 --> 00:29:19.859
selection for 2013. It got the Kentucky Bluegrass

00:29:19.859 --> 00:29:26.859
Award in 2015, South Carolina SCALC Picture Book

00:29:26.859 --> 00:29:30.400
Award 2015, Tennessee Volunteer State Book Award

00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:36.000
2015, and Texas 2x2 2014. And for the author

00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:39.259
history, Kristy Matheson is an award -winning

00:29:39.259 --> 00:29:41.880
children's book author and illustrator. Her books

00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:44.619
have been translated into more than 20 languages.

00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:47.539
She enjoys spending time with her children outside

00:29:47.539 --> 00:29:51.559
in nature, and of course, reading. Some of the

00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.039
other books that she has written are A Mischief

00:29:55.039 --> 00:30:00.880
of Mice, Forest, Mamas and Babies, Birdwatch,

00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:05.640
Plant the Tiny Seed, The Hidden Rainbow and Touch

00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:09.220
the Brightest Star. She's also written two middle

00:30:09.220 --> 00:30:14.160
grade novels, which are Select and Shelter. And

00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:17.420
in this book, an unseen narrator tells the reader

00:30:17.420 --> 00:30:20.880
to begin the story by tapping a bare brown tree,

00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:25.200
which makes a leaf magically appear on the next

00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.519
page. The narrator continues telling the reader

00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:32.549
how to interact with the tree and it makes the

00:30:32.549 --> 00:30:36.029
tree go through one full year of seasons. I like

00:30:36.029 --> 00:30:39.569
doing this one this time of year to introduce

00:30:39.569 --> 00:30:42.369
the concept of fall because it's the first time

00:30:42.369 --> 00:30:45.549
that we talk about seasons in school because

00:30:45.549 --> 00:30:49.130
we do start school in the fall, right? And then

00:30:49.130 --> 00:30:53.119
I feel like I think it's important all the time

00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:55.140
to talk about seasons in general. I mean, that's

00:30:55.140 --> 00:30:58.319
just an important concept, right? But in Texas,

00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:01.720
especially where we don't really have very many

00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:07.660
seasons and it's so stinking hot for so very

00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:09.839
long. And especially if you're doing this book

00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:14.079
with like four and five year olds, like really

00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.839
right now. it's still like 90 degrees outside

00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.319
and it's the end of September like the last time

00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:24.259
these kids were had anywhere near like colder

00:31:24.259 --> 00:31:31.160
weather it was like um maybe March maybe definitely

00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:36.140
February I was thinking February yeah so it's

00:31:36.140 --> 00:31:40.059
been like seven or eight months Which is close

00:31:40.059 --> 00:31:43.700
to like a quarter of their lifetime so like truly

00:31:43.700 --> 00:31:47.400
they may not remember cold weather like for real

00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:50.259
so they may not like they're like it's just hot

00:31:50.259 --> 00:31:54.579
all the time because it's just been. Like comparatively

00:31:54.579 --> 00:31:59.460
so much of their life has like like they don't

00:31:59.460 --> 00:32:01.339
remember like when they were baby and such so

00:32:01.339 --> 00:32:04.640
like it was just so long ago that like. I know

00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.180
they know it gets cold, but do they? Do they?

00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:11.319
I don't know. So I like to start with this book

00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.539
because it does show the tree going through all

00:32:14.539 --> 00:32:20.039
four seasons. And we do get to remind kids that

00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:24.339
eventually it'll get cold. And like, as I'm reading,

00:32:24.539 --> 00:32:26.559
I kind of, you know, like, okay, on this page,

00:32:26.700 --> 00:32:30.099
there's snow. All right. We're going to wear,

00:32:30.099 --> 00:32:31.759
you know, long pants are going to come back.

00:32:31.779 --> 00:32:35.700
It's going to happen. I promise. eventually we're

00:32:35.700 --> 00:32:38.480
going to wear jackets eventually it's going to

00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.700
happen so just like reminding kids that there

00:32:42.700 --> 00:32:46.839
are seasons because i know they know kind of

00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.579
but they haven't their memory isn't long enough

00:32:49.579 --> 00:32:54.980
yet to really remember it so this is my favorite

00:32:54.980 --> 00:32:57.980
way to kind of introduce all four seasons and

00:32:57.980 --> 00:33:00.680
then i usually do this one and then i do another

00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.859
fall book like just focusing on fall usually

00:33:03.859 --> 00:33:08.259
like a non -fiction right after it um and with

00:33:08.259 --> 00:33:11.779
this one i very much you know stop on like i

00:33:11.779 --> 00:33:15.000
read it through because it is very interactive

00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.980
the kids absolutely love it and actually a lot

00:33:17.980 --> 00:33:20.960
of the teachers love watching the kids interact

00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.319
with the book as well and they get kind of excited

00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:28.339
for that too because it's just so much fun so

00:33:28.569 --> 00:33:32.150
that interactive piece is like super duper engaging

00:33:32.150 --> 00:33:36.589
for the kiddos. I read it through once like kind

00:33:36.589 --> 00:33:40.210
of quickly and just just follow directions and

00:33:40.210 --> 00:33:43.089
let everybody interact with the book. And then

00:33:43.089 --> 00:33:46.470
I go through it one more time just looking at

00:33:46.470 --> 00:33:49.329
the pictures and pointing out like this is what

00:33:49.329 --> 00:33:51.920
the tree is doing here. Okay. leaves are falling

00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.960
down the weather is getting colder now all the

00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.420
leaves are gone like what season is it now and

00:33:58.420 --> 00:34:02.299
kind of point out all the like non -fiction teaching

00:34:02.299 --> 00:34:05.480
pieces with it um i feel like going through it

00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:09.059
that way they get the benefit of both interacting

00:34:09.059 --> 00:34:11.760
with it quickly and remaining engaged so i don't

00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:16.599
lose the momentum but then they also get an opportunity

00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:21.199
to see why the tree is going through the changes

00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.360
when it's going through those changes, if that

00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.900
makes sense. But this is like one of my favorite

00:34:25.900 --> 00:34:29.820
books to read because it's so interactive. I

00:34:29.820 --> 00:34:33.019
do like Kristi Matheson's books in general, but

00:34:33.019 --> 00:34:37.480
I think this one is by far the best interactive

00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.380
book that she's got. The other ones are okay,

00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:44.000
but this one, there's enough to do that I can

00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:48.079
get... in a whole class, I can make it so that

00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:51.139
everybody gets a turn to do something. And I

00:34:51.139 --> 00:34:53.960
can't necessarily do that with her other ones,

00:34:54.179 --> 00:34:56.440
which makes this one easily my favorite of hers.

00:34:57.420 --> 00:34:59.500
So I would give it a five out of five. I like

00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:02.780
it a lot. It's a good time. I love this book.

00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.320
It was great. It was just kind of magical. It

00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.699
reminded me of like the some of the other books

00:35:09.699 --> 00:35:12.559
where you like tap and you flip the page and

00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.019
something new happened you know so like it was

00:35:16.019 --> 00:35:19.380
it is beautiful i loved it i i'm definitely going

00:35:19.380 --> 00:35:22.199
to use this with my pre -k students this year

00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.920
yeah they like it a lot it's it's a good one

00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:29.760
it is um and then for a makerspace activity for

00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:35.739
this i like to do leaf rubbings um you can just

00:35:35.739 --> 00:35:41.300
go outside and fine leaves with particularly

00:35:41.300 --> 00:35:45.820
big veins and such and use those for leaf rubbings.

00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:50.599
I personally have a set of like plastic leaves

00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:55.380
that are like it's clear plastic but it has like

00:35:55.380 --> 00:36:00.159
the shape of a leaf and like printed on it and

00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.199
they're like designed for making leaf rubbings

00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:08.610
but then I just I have my bag of Crayons that

00:36:08.610 --> 00:36:12.409
where I've taken off the paper on them and I

00:36:12.409 --> 00:36:14.789
show the kids how to do leaf rubbings and that's

00:36:14.789 --> 00:36:19.630
a good one for Encouraging that fine motor grasp

00:36:19.630 --> 00:36:22.989
there They do get a little bit confused with

00:36:22.989 --> 00:36:25.730
how to hold the crayon at first because a lot

00:36:25.730 --> 00:36:27.929
of them try and like right with it and I'm like

00:36:27.929 --> 00:36:31.829
no you got to lay it completely flat and Am I

00:36:31.829 --> 00:36:35.690
like I show them how to hold it so that they

00:36:35.690 --> 00:36:39.090
can make the rubbings and once that like some

00:36:39.090 --> 00:36:40.949
some of the kids do need a little bit more guidance

00:36:40.949 --> 00:36:46.289
with that um but once that gets going they really

00:36:46.289 --> 00:36:48.550
like it most most pre -k kids are able to do

00:36:48.550 --> 00:36:52.369
that kind of independently and i like using the

00:36:52.369 --> 00:36:57.750
clear plastic leaf rubbing plates because it

00:36:57.980 --> 00:37:00.139
Feels a little bit more magical too when the

00:37:00.139 --> 00:37:01.800
kids do the rubbing because you can't really

00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:03.800
when they because they're clear plastic It doesn't

00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.739
necessarily like it looks like a leaf, but not

00:37:06.739 --> 00:37:09.059
really because there's no color to it yet so

00:37:09.059 --> 00:37:13.300
once you do the leaf rubbing on top and I of

00:37:13.300 --> 00:37:15.039
course only use fall colors with it because I

00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:18.719
usually do it in the fall Once you do that leaf

00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:21.539
rubbing on top and they see it pop up they get

00:37:21.539 --> 00:37:26.090
really excited because it feels almost like That

00:37:26.090 --> 00:37:28.030
feels almost magical too because it looks almost

00:37:28.030 --> 00:37:30.010
like it wasn't there at all because it was clear

00:37:30.010 --> 00:37:33.530
plastic But now it definitely is on that paper.

00:37:33.849 --> 00:37:38.230
So yeah, I Love that idea. That sounds like a

00:37:38.230 --> 00:37:40.010
lot of fun. I'm gonna have to look into finding

00:37:40.010 --> 00:37:44.010
some of those clear Leaves to do that with that.

00:37:44.010 --> 00:37:47.650
That'll be cool. I lucked into mine. They were

00:37:47.650 --> 00:37:51.650
just there they were part of a giant stem package

00:37:51.650 --> 00:37:55.340
and that like nobody was using in my school.

00:37:55.539 --> 00:37:57.320
I don't even know where I would have ordered

00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.960
them from. But I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to search

00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.119
Amazon or something and see what I can find.

00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:05.539
Because that sounds like a really cool, cool

00:38:05.539 --> 00:38:08.760
activity. Yeah, low prep and all that's the best

00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:14.780
kind. Magic leafs appearing. All kinds of magic

00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:17.320
today. We got the magic tree and the magic leaves.

00:38:17.820 --> 00:38:20.869
It's good. Well, thank you all for joining us

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00:39:10.969 --> 00:39:13.750
decorated the whole house while you were podcasting.

00:39:13.889 --> 00:39:16.550
Huh? We're all ready for Halloween still. Don't

00:39:16.550 --> 00:39:19.730
worry. It's still up. Awesome. Like when you

00:39:19.730 --> 00:39:23.389
sent me that text message, I died laughing. I

00:39:23.389 --> 00:39:27.750
was like, that is brilliant. They had that, they

00:39:27.750 --> 00:39:30.190
had to have had that planned in advance. There's

00:39:30.190 --> 00:39:32.570
like, they were like, dad's going to be gone.

00:39:32.969 --> 00:39:36.230
Mom's busy. We know what to do because that had

00:39:36.230 --> 00:39:39.230
to be an organized and concerted effort to make

00:39:39.230 --> 00:39:44.250
sure it happened. And I love it. All Halloween

00:39:44.250 --> 00:39:48.010
is still out. Don't worry. Entire inside of your

00:39:48.010 --> 00:39:51.650
house is just Halloween. That's awesome. It's

00:39:51.650 --> 00:39:54.210
only inside. Brandon's going to do the outside.

00:39:55.989 --> 00:40:10.280
That's amazing. I love it. That's awesome. I

00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:13.500
bet they're about to make pancakes or some thing

00:40:13.500 --> 00:40:16.920
like that since I'm in here, which is probably

00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:19.219
for the best because I shouldn't watch them do

00:40:19.219 --> 00:40:23.559
that. I get stressed out when I see them cook

00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:25.719
because I'm like, I want to take over and I but

00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:27.039
I know they're big enough and I need to give

00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.269
them space. Yeah. I can see that. But they are

00:40:30.269 --> 00:40:33.090
getting to that age where they can handle it.

00:40:33.349 --> 00:40:34.550
They can and they should do it. They might make

00:40:34.550 --> 00:40:37.269
a mess in the process, but they can handle it.

00:40:37.590 --> 00:40:40.210
It'll be okay. I just don't want to watch it.

00:40:40.369 --> 00:40:44.630
Yeah, I get that. I get that. I want to be nearby.

00:40:45.309 --> 00:40:47.190
At least your kids take initiative to do that.

00:40:47.210 --> 00:40:50.989
My son, I'm 100 % sure I know exactly what he

00:40:50.989 --> 00:40:55.389
has done today. While I've been podcasting, he

00:40:55.389 --> 00:40:59.670
woke up. he has gone downstairs and either sat

00:40:59.670 --> 00:41:03.389
on his phone and watched YouTube videos, or he

00:41:03.389 --> 00:41:05.469
pulled out his Switch and is playing Mario Kart.

00:41:05.590 --> 00:41:08.449
It's one of those two things. That's it. That's

00:41:08.449 --> 00:41:10.269
the only thing that has happened this morning.

00:41:10.829 --> 00:41:15.510
He hasn't fed himself. He hasn't fed the dogs.

00:41:15.929 --> 00:41:18.989
Like, I guarantee that's all that got done today.

00:41:21.900 --> 00:41:24.260
So like the initiative to be like we're gonna

00:41:24.260 --> 00:41:26.840
decorate the house or even just we're gonna make

00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:33.619
breakfast is impressive They have to do the things

00:41:33.619 --> 00:41:39.960
that stress me out while I'm in here That's pretty

00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:40.960
awesome, yeah
