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Hello, I'm Patrick Adams. And I'm Caroline Legere.

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And this is Librarians of Littles, a podcast

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where we discuss books, give ideas for makerspace

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activities, and give tips and tricks for working

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in the library with our youngest learners. Today

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we will be discussing two of the Texas 2x2 books.

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The Texas 2x2 list is a list created each year

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by the Texas Library Association. It's a list

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of 20 books that are excellent for children between

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the ages of two and second grade. And so this

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week we've selected two of those books off of

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that list and I think we picked some really good

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ones. The first book is the book called Lefty,

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a story that is not all right. It is published

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by Union Square Kids in 2024. And the author

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is this guy that I don't I don't know how well

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he's going to do. I don't know if his name is

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going to get out too often. It's written by a

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gentleman named Mo Willems. I don't know if you've

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heard of him before. Mo Willems. Yeah, we'll

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see if he if he has any longevity in this industry,

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we'll see. Also, the illustrator is Dan Santat.

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And so the list of awards for this book, this

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book is on the Junior Library Guild selection

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for 2025. And as stated, it is a Texas two by

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two list book for 2025. And so yes, our author

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is Mo Willems. Super famous, obviously. He's

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an American writer, animator, voice actor, and

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children's book author. And the fact that children's

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book author is fourth on that list should tell

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you something about how successful this gentleman

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is. He was born in Illinois, raised in New Orleans,

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and graduated from New York University's Tisch

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School of the Arts. He started his career as

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a writer and animator for Sesame Street. and

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he just happened to win six Emmy Awards there.

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And from there, his career has exploded. And

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because our book is about being left -handed,

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we just need to point out that Mo, he's right

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-handed. Some of the books that has made Mo Willems

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famous include the amazing Elephant and Piggy

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series, the Pigeon series, the Nuffle Bunny series.

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And then some individual books include Leonardo

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the Terrible Monster, Goldilocks and the Three

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Dinosaurs. That is not a good idea. And many,

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many more. And for illustrator history, Dan Santat

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is a Caldecott award -winning artist who grew

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up in Southern California and graduated from

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the Art Center College of Design. He is the creator

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of the animated series, The Replacements. Dan

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lives outside of Los Angeles with his wife, two

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kids and many, many pets. And you all need to

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know, he is a proud lefty. Some of his other

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books include, Drawn Together written by Minh

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Le, Endlessly Ever After by Laurel Snyder, Lift

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by Minh Le, A New Day by Brad Mell. Meltzer.

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The Misfit series by Lisa Yee. No More Poems

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a Book and Verse That Just Gets Worse by Rhett

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Miller. Oh No or How My Science Project Destroyed

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the World by Mac Barnett. Dude by Aaron Reynolds.

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And Ricky Ricotta's Mighty Robot series by Dave

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Pilkey. Some of the books that he has written

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and illustrated are A First Time for Everything,

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The Adventures of Beagle the Unimaginary Friend,

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and after the fall how Humpty Dumpty got back

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up again and many many more. And so this book,

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The Summary, it is a brief history of left -handed

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people throughout history. It includes the previous

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thoughts of being left -handed, some famous people

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who were left -handed, and the important message

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that no matter whether you are left or right

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-handed You are you and that is important. And

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this book, I really enjoyed it. I wasn't sure

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if I was going to actually like this one, not

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because like clearly anything that Mo Willems

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or Dan Santat does is amazing, but this was just

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kind of a, it's kind of a unique book for them

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to do. Um, which is a little bit more off the

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beaten path than what I'm used to them doing.

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And so I was like, I was hesitant when I first

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grabbed it off the shelf to look at it. But it's

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actually really cute. Always illustrations are

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amazing. And then Mo's sense of humor is right

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there on the page the entire way through the

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book. But it's also just really cool because

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they do bring in a lot of the history of like

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the attitudes that people had towards left handed

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people. And the fact that, you know, there were

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left -handed people that were very famous and

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were able to do lots of things, but you know

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what? Not every left -handed person is gonna

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do that. And you know what? Not every right -handed

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person is gonna do that either. And so just kind

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of like pointing out some of the glaring misconceptions

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that were there in history and just kind of like

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pointing it out, counterbalanced by right -handedness

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and how really, that shouldn't matter. And so

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it was just a really cute book. I think that

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the characters, the little hands telling the

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story and having the conversations will be a

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lot of fun for our young readers. I think it's,

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I think that that will help keep their attention.

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I think that the length of the book and some

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of the topic might. Be a little bit harder for

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them to necessarily understand this book might

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I think The best audience for this book is probably

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gonna be like first or second grade That doesn't

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mean kinder pre -k and kinder can't enjoy it.

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I think it's just maybe aimed at a little bit

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older But I think it's really fun. It's really

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entertaining the hand puppet characters are silly

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The the information in it is awesome. I really

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enjoyed it a lot And so I think that I would

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give this, if I'm using it with pre -K students,

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I think I'd give it a four out of five. If I'm

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using it with first and second grade students,

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I think five out of five. I think it really just

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depends on the audience that it's being used

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with and the goals that you have for it. And

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so I think it's a solid book. I loved it a lot.

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It was like, and again, I don't want to say it's

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surprising, but it was, pleasant at how amazing

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the book was. I agree with all of those things.

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I think with pre -k in general, because their

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sense of time isn't there yet, anything with

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history is just, it's just not developmentally

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appropriate. And that's okay. Everything that

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has happened in the past for like, A three or

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four year old literally happened yesterday yesterday.

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I got up and went to school yesterday. Also,

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the dinosaurs existed. And also yesterday, George

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Washington was president. All these things happened

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just yesterday. Like that's when it happened.

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And same with tomorrow. Tomorrow, I'm also going

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to go to school tomorrow. I'm also going to go

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grow up and get a job. And tomorrow I'm going

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to get married and have my own kids. It's all

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happening tomorrow. Like their their sense of

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time is just like doesn't It's just not there.

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They haven't lived long enough to like really

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have a good sense of how long things take and

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what, you know, a hundred years ago when people

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were discriminated against because of being right

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or left handed, like that, that doesn't, it just

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doesn't. It's not developmentally appropriate,

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not because the book is bad, but because they're

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not ready to learn about history yet. And it's

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not that you shouldn't teach about history at

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all. Just do it knowing that they're not really

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gonna get it because literally everything happened

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yesterday. Everything. That's just some time

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in the past. That's what that word means to them

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right now. And that's okay. They're just not

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100 % ready for it yet. I also really like this

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book and kind of going into that concept because

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I think discrimination against left -handed people,

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maybe that's the only discrimination that I can

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think of off the top of my head that has truly

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like is gone from our society in general right

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now. I think every other form of discrimination

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is probably is still there to some extent, whether

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we realize it or not, it's kind of subtly there,

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you know, like we don't have slavery anymore,

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obviously, but like, there's still, you know,

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that kind of the echoes of that are still kind

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of present in our culture. And this one with

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the discrimination against left handed people

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like that was a thing. in a big way in the past

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and like the book kind of covers that a bit.

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And I just think that's an interesting one to

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kind of look at a little bit because that's probably

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the only area that I truly think we as a culture

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like have overcome completely 100 % and it doesn't

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exist anymore. And I think that might be a good

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one to kind of learn a little bit about so that

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the kids can kind of be aware of like you can

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overcome, you know, types of discrimination,

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like we can, we can do it and we've got some

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work to go, you know, as a culture, like we're

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not done yet in other areas by any means. And

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this is kind of an, a good way to, um, kind of

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teach that a little bit, I guess. Also, have

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you seen Mo Willems workshop? Yes. On YouTube?

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Yes. I feel like if Mo Willems is on here, we

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need to, yeah, that is all. Last year being split

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onto campuses and having to teach in full specials

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rotation, full time, like halfway through the

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year. I like Mo Willems workshop has only been

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there for like a year. Yeah. I think like right

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now a year and, um, it's newer. And so like halfway

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through last year, I found it. And that was like

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my lesson plans for the rest of the year. And

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it made me happy because I had to do sub plans

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all year. long. And it's kind of amazing for

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extra extensions for Mo Willems everything. Absolutely.

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So cool. And so yeah, a makerspace activity for

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this. Since it's about left and right hands,

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I thought it would be fun to get paper and some

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kind of art utensil, crayons, colored pencils,

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markers, whatever, and have the students draw

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a self portrait, but have them use their non

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-dominant hand. So have the righties use their

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left hand, have the lefties use their right hand

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to try and draw, just to, for a lot of reasons.

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First off, I think it'd be fun to see, I enjoy

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seeing students struggle over little things,

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because this isn't for grade, this isn't for

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like, this in the end is just a fun activity

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to try. So like, little struggles like that are

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where you get to see a lot of kids kind of push

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themselves to move past that. And I think doing

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little struggles where they have to think differently

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and try something that they know is going to

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be hard in simple settings like this, where there's

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no like, it's not for a grade, you're not gonna

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get in trouble if you're not super successful

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with it. Like I think having those safe ways

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to let the students struggle is always kind of

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fun and kind of cool to see them grow. But I

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also think that the images that we get for a

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self -portrait when they're using their non -dominant

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hand would be amusing to see as well. And I just

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think like at the same time, it's also helping

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with like that Cross connections and the brain

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and the left and right brain and using different

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side part halves of your body and all that kind

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of stuff or crossing that midline and I just

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think all of that ends up being So useful for

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our students and so having them do kind of activities

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like this where they have to try something with

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their non -dominant hand would be Interesting

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and so just drawing a self -portrait see what

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that comes to would be fun Mm -hmm. I love that

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I love it a whole lot. And that's also kind of

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a safe way to do it too, because everybody's

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doing it at once. So everybody's is going to

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look goofy. So nobody's going to be singled out

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or anything. For sure. I love it. Yeah. Yeah.

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That'd be a really good one. That'd be a whole

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lot of fun. And I, you know, that's one of those

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ones where I would do it too. And I would make

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sure that mine looks pretty terrible to be like,

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look, it's not my strong hand. You wouldn't have

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to. No, but like, I would be up there just being

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like, look, here's mine. I didn't do the best.

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It's okay not to have it be perfect. Let the

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kids know that it's okay and that it's just one

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of those activities to try at. It's a safe place

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to struggle. We're all going to be bad at it

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together. Let's go. Yeah, I like it. All right,

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for our Library of Littles management tip today,

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we are going to talk about having parent volunteers

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in the library. I have been kind of fortunate

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in the past and am again this year with getting

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parent volunteers for the past five years that

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I've been at Pre -K only campus. And for those

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years, I usually, even though it's Pre -K, with

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Pre -K it's... harder to get, especially on a

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pre -K only campus. Our schools kind of historically

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struggled with getting some parent volunteers,

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mostly because with pre -K, all of the parents

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are, for the most part, I mean, some of the kids

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have older siblings, but for the most part, everybody,

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including parents, is learning school. for the

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very first time. And usually when you're starting

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something for the very first time, you don't

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really want to add to your responsibilities and

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you don't really want to try something brand

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new because you're already trying something brand

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new with because you're starting this thing for

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the first time. So it's a little bit harder to

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get parent volunteers for that in general. But

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I was always able to get at least a couple. of

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parent volunteers, not a ton, but I usually got

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a couple that came in to help with book fairs

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in particular. Book fairs and we had a couple

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of really big school -wide events that I organized

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in the past that I got a few parent volunteers

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for. And with all of those, the way I got parent

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volunteers was... our counselor. She was kind

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of amazing, and with Meet the Teacher, she created

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a volunteer sign up sheet for all the parents

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that went home with the student information packet

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that teachers handed out with each class. So

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the parents would fill out, if they were interested

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in volunteering at the school, the parents would

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fill out a sheet with their contact information,

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the dates and times they were available, if they

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were available regularly or if they just wanted

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to be contacted, if there was a special event

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or something and kind of things like that. And

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then she had a list of events that. she put that

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would happen throughout the school year that

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we would like parent volunteers for. And if they

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checked and Book Fair was one of those things.

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And then the other big events that I organized

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were also on there. And if they checked those

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boxes, then she gave me a copy of their contact

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information and I just kept them in a file. And

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then when it was time for that event, that was

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when I contacted them. And that was a pretty

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great way for us to get like school -wide volunteers

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to kind of come in and for at that pre -k only

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campus we didn't have a PTA or anything because

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again because the kids it was pre -k only so

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you know the kids are only there for one year

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so it wasn't like we had a whole lot of parents

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that were you know repeat customers or anything

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they would since the parents the kids and parents

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were only there for one year it was it wasn't

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like we could have like the fifth grade parents

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who had been there for a minute and trained the

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kindergarten parents who were incoming or anything.

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So PTA didn't work, but we were able to do a

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few parent volunteers that way. This year, we

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didn't have anything school -wide like that.

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There is a PTA though. I haven't really been

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in contact with the PTA and I don't really know

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if they're, You know involved with I'm sure they

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are involved with volunteering and I will contact

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them when it is time for Big school events to

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see if there's anybody additional who wants to

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come and volunteer in the library But what I

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did instead on my own was at meet the teacher

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again this year our specials team which consists

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of me the librarian our PE coach our Art and

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music teacher and our computer teacher like we

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all had our own table like at the front of the

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school That had we all had kind of matching all

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about me sheets that we just kind of laminated

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and put up like as a sign So it was like this

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big poster board with like all these kind of

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matching sheets or whatever that were like We

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made it look all pretty and everything so that

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parents could read a little bit about us if they

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So desired and they could come chat with us since

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we are their children's teachers as well. And

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then on that table with all of those things,

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I also had just a sheet to sign up for library

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volunteers. I haven't really given people, I

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didn't put any information out at that night

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and I didn't have anybody ask about what specific

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events I would need for parent volunteers. But

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I did, I was lucky and I got five people to sign

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up. for to come volunteer in the library. And

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then last week I emailed all of them with just

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a blanket. Thank you for, you know, volunteering.

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So excited to have you. I would definitely love

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regular help with shelving. If anybody can come

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on a, you know, consistent, you know, day of

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the week or time consistent day or time of the

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week, that would be wonderful. Or we've got,

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you know, DOT Day is going to come up and we're

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going to need help with decorating the school

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for that. And we'll have a book fair later in

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November that you can volunteer with. And all

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of them have emailed me back with two of them

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want to do regular shelving. So I'll have a regular

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volunteer Fridays during my conference and Mondays

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during my conference. to just help with shelving.

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And then the other ones are going to come help

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decorate the school for dot day, when our art

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teacher is going to create or help students create

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dots to decorate the school with. And they're

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also going to come back for book fair. So I'm

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very excited this year. I haven't None of them

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have gotten to come into the library yet. That's

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going to start actually this coming Monday when

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students start returning their library books.

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That's when my first volunteer is going to come.

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So we'll see how it goes after that. But yeah,

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that's how I've gotten my parent volunteers in

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the past. And I've I think I've been fairly successful

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with it with the demographics that I've had to

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work with. And you know, I just I've worked with

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uh, families in the past who are lower socioeconomic

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status, who maybe work multiple jobs that you

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don't typically get as much, um, volunteer with,

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but I have been fortunate and I've gotten some.

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So that's how I've done it before. I think it'll

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work again this year. Yeah. Looking forward to

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it. Yeah, that's, that's another area that I

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need to work on. I never get a ton, a ton of

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volunteers. Um, So I need to, I need to work

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on that. I like the idea of having like a signup

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sheet right there for me, for like open house

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and meet the teacher night and that kind of thing.

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I'm going to try that in this year and see if

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maybe I can get a couple more volunteers. Cause

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I always, the big thing that I need volunteers

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for is like helping out with book fair because

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being part of the rotation. So running the book

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fair while also having a class in the library

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is just so challenging. That's hard. So having

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at least one extra pair of hands that can like

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run the cash register for me while I'm trying

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to get 25 kids to do an activity or something.

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That's always the big thing. And so I like that

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idea. We have our curriculum nights and our meet

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the tea, like our open house nights coming up.

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So I think having a sign up sheet. to volunteer

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for the library is I'm going to try it out. I'm

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going to see how that works because I like that

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a lot. Yeah, try it. I mean, it can't hurt. Can't

00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:50.279
hurt. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. If you get no one,

00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:53.200
that's the same as what you got now. Yep. So

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for sure. So yeah, going to try it out. Well,

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hopefully it'll be successful and I'll get some

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help because that would be real nice. Yeah. Let

00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:05.880
me know how it goes. Yeah. All right. For the

00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:07.859
next book that we're going to talk about that

00:24:07.859 --> 00:24:11.579
was on the two by two, it's Go and Get with Rex.

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It was published by Penguin Random House in 2024.

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The author is David LaRochelle and the illustrator

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is Mike. How do you say his last name? Do you

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know? I believe it's Wanookka. Wanookka. Wanookka.

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Wanookka. Wanookka. Wanookka. Wanookka. Wanookka.

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Yes. there you go yes just say yes okay uh this

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book was on quite a few lists it's a ccbc selection

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for 2025 alsc notable children's book commended

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list 2025 junior library guild pre -kinder selection

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2025 state and the state lists it's on are colorado

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c -l -e -l Bell Picture Book Awards for Early

00:25:01.509 --> 00:25:06.210
Literacy Shortlist Read 2025, Iowa Bridge to

00:25:06.210 --> 00:25:10.309
Reading Award 2025, Oklahoma Red Bud Read Aloud

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2025, Pennsylvania Baker's Dozen 13 Best Books

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for Family Literacy 2025, and of course, the

00:25:18.150 --> 00:25:23.549
Texas 2x2 List 2025. For the author history,

00:25:24.210 --> 00:25:26.549
David La Rochelle was born and raised in Minnesota.

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He graduated from St. Olaf College in 1983. He

00:25:30.609 --> 00:25:32.710
wanted to be a cartoonist or an illustrator of

00:25:32.710 --> 00:25:34.750
homework cards, but became an elementary school

00:25:34.750 --> 00:25:38.309
teacher. A friend convinced him to submit a story

00:25:38.309 --> 00:25:40.710
he had written to a local publisher, and his

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first book, A Christmas Guest, was published

00:25:43.190 --> 00:25:46.349
in 1988. He is the recipient of the Theodore

00:25:46.349 --> 00:25:52.170
Seuss Geisel Award, the Sid Fleshman Humor Award,

00:25:52.670 --> 00:25:55.509
Multiple Children's Choice Awards, and a four

00:25:55.509 --> 00:25:58.700
-time winner of the Minnesota Book Award. David

00:25:58.700 --> 00:26:01.160
still visits many classrooms around the Midwest

00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:04.000
and the world each year, talking with students

00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:09.359
about books, writing, and illustrating. Some

00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:14.119
of his other books are The Best Pet of All, illustrated

00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:20.400
by Hanako Wakayama, How Martha Saved Her Parents

00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:23.240
from Green Beans, illustrated by Mark Fearing,

00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:27.240
See the Cat. Three Stories About a Dog, illustrated

00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:32.539
by Mike Wanucca. Monster and Son, illustrated

00:26:32.539 --> 00:26:36.579
by Joey Chow. It's a Tiger, illustrated by Jeremy

00:26:36.579 --> 00:26:40.099
Tankard. The Haunted Hamburger, illustrated by

00:26:40.099 --> 00:26:44.200
Paul Maisel. And How to Apologize, illustrated

00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:46.799
by Mike Wanucca. I haven't read that one, but

00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:49.599
I think I should. That sounds great. I want to

00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:52.480
read a book called How to Apologize. Anyway.

00:26:54.230 --> 00:26:57.210
And so our illustrator, we're going to refer

00:26:57.210 --> 00:27:05.730
to him as Mike, because yeah. Yep, do that. Mike

00:27:05.730 --> 00:27:09.009
grew up in Minnesota and always wanted to be

00:27:09.009 --> 00:27:12.650
an artist. And a high school art teacher encouraged

00:27:12.650 --> 00:27:15.769
him to follow his dream. With this encouragement

00:27:15.769 --> 00:27:18.509
and a scholarship, Mike attended the Savannah

00:27:18.509 --> 00:27:21.230
College of Art and Design, where he graduated

00:27:21.230 --> 00:27:26.079
with a with a BFA in illustration. He has since

00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.019
illustrated over 30 books and he has written

00:27:29.019 --> 00:27:33.299
and illustrated many books as well. So some of

00:27:33.299 --> 00:27:37.519
the books that he has illustrated include Davy's

00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.619
Blue -Eyed Frog written by Patricia Harrison

00:27:40.619 --> 00:27:45.759
Easton, Can't Sleep Without Sheep by Susan Leonard

00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:51.279
Hill, Hanukkah Bear by Eric A. Kimmel, Stay Close

00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:56.500
to Mama by Tony Buzio. That's what we're gonna

00:27:56.500 --> 00:28:00.839
say, Buzio. Just Like My Papa by Tony Buzio.

00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:05.960
This is Not a Cat by David La Rochelle. See the

00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.339
Dog, Three Stories About a Cat by David La Rochelle.

00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:12.180
And See the Cat, Three Stories About a Dog by

00:28:12.180 --> 00:28:14.740
David La Rochelle. Books that he has written

00:28:14.740 --> 00:28:19.079
and illustrated include Croc and Turtle. the

00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:24.279
bestest friends ever croc and turtle snow fun

00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:28.660
ups and downs a book of emotions little puppy

00:28:28.660 --> 00:28:32.779
and the green monster the big green monster and

00:28:32.779 --> 00:28:43.000
dad's first day um i think these two also have

00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:45.799
another book in the see the dog series called

00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:51.000
see the ghost And it's about, I really like it

00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.759
and I forgot about it until right now. I had

00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:58.759
it on my order list at my old library and I wasn't

00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:00.920
allowed to order it for a very long time, but

00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:02.920
I'm going to need to order it now because it

00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:05.339
was all about unseen things. It was like, one

00:29:05.339 --> 00:29:08.779
was like the wind and one was, it was anyway,

00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.460
I digress. No, that's cool. It was really cool.

00:29:13.579 --> 00:29:18.680
It was all unseen. Yeah. It was a very cool book.

00:29:19.099 --> 00:29:23.700
Anyway, I would like to read it again. Anyway,

00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:29.079
in this book, an unseen narrator asks a boy,

00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.660
a girl, and a dog named Rex if they would like

00:29:32.660 --> 00:29:35.940
to play a game called Go and Get. After saying

00:29:35.940 --> 00:29:38.819
yes, the narrator tells them to go and get things

00:29:38.819 --> 00:29:41.160
that start with a specific letter. The boy and

00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.119
girl both find something obvious every time.

00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:49.640
But Rex repeatedly gets things that aren't quite

00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:54.160
right at first glance. But then once he explains

00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.359
it in his little doggie language, I guess, he

00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.759
only says woof. But he kind of explains to the

00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:05.359
narrator like, no, it's right. And kind of the

00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:08.059
narrator tells you how it's right. So I loved

00:30:08.059 --> 00:30:11.859
this book. I think this this, you know, author

00:30:11.859 --> 00:30:15.140
illustrator pair, like they write some really

00:30:15.140 --> 00:30:22.680
great, very simple, funny books that I think

00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.039
really connect really well with the youngest

00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:27.940
readers. I especially loved this one because

00:30:27.940 --> 00:30:32.259
it's all about alliteration and it's just a really,

00:30:32.259 --> 00:30:37.119
really great book to teach all kinds of phonological

00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:42.299
awareness skills. It's I think it's exceptionally

00:30:42.299 --> 00:30:45.279
engaging because like it has I think the first

00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.079
one is like go and get something that starts

00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.500
with the letter F And there's like a frog and

00:30:51.500 --> 00:30:54.579
there's a fish and then he goes and gets a duck.

00:30:54.579 --> 00:30:58.099
No, it's my friend There you go. So and that's

00:30:58.099 --> 00:31:00.920
how it kind of connects to the letter F. So I

00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.900
think it was just I think it would make kids

00:31:04.900 --> 00:31:09.319
laugh it really pulls them in and It's got really

00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:12.220
simple, that simple illustration style with the,

00:31:12.220 --> 00:31:14.700
you know, mostly white background with just the

00:31:14.700 --> 00:31:18.700
pictures on it. Um, or just the very simple pictures

00:31:18.700 --> 00:31:21.279
on it. There's no like scenes in the background

00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.700
or anything. So it's easier for the kids to focus

00:31:23.700 --> 00:31:28.539
on whatever the picture is. Um, yeah, this one's

00:31:28.539 --> 00:31:32.200
easily a five out of five. I loved it. It's this

00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:35.440
pair just has amazing work and it was another,

00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:40.319
you know, fantastic book for pre -k kids agreed

00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:44.240
i love it i loved how clever the dog was to come

00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.779
up with unique ways to to find those the letter

00:31:48.779 --> 00:31:51.759
sounds and that kind of thing um it was a lot

00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.440
of fun and i can just i haven't read this book

00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:56.819
with my students yet but i'm i'm going to this

00:31:56.819 --> 00:32:00.200
year and i can just already hear the conversations

00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.259
that we can have like, oh, what can you think

00:32:02.259 --> 00:32:04.700
of that starts with this letter and let the kids

00:32:04.700 --> 00:32:06.440
give some ideas. And then we read and find out

00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.440
what the characters in the book thought of that

00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:10.700
start with that letter and that kind of thing.

00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.660
And so I think it'll be a very engaging story

00:32:13.660 --> 00:32:16.660
and I look forward to using it because like you

00:32:16.660 --> 00:32:19.440
said, the story and the pictures, they just work

00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:24.240
so well together to be just so much fun for the

00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.049
students. And so. Being able to have those conversations

00:32:27.049 --> 00:32:31.109
in addition with that to make some good Discussions

00:32:31.109 --> 00:32:33.930
will be fun. I look forward to using it. I totally

00:32:33.930 --> 00:32:37.069
agree five out of five and It it just it takes

00:32:37.069 --> 00:32:40.910
a concept. That's really pretty dry, you know

00:32:40.910 --> 00:32:44.269
just listing words that start with the same sound

00:32:44.269 --> 00:32:49.849
like okay, that's you know, it's I mean, it's

00:32:49.849 --> 00:32:52.109
an important skill. It's something that you work

00:32:52.109 --> 00:32:56.039
on and pre -k like throughout the whole year

00:32:56.039 --> 00:33:01.059
anything to do with letter sounds and Any kind

00:33:01.059 --> 00:33:03.960
of phonological awareness skill really like you

00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:08.180
you really do that all Year long and it can it

00:33:08.180 --> 00:33:11.440
can get kind of boring. So it's a really fresh

00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:16.519
new way to kind of make it fun for kids and Get

00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:17.960
a little giggle out of them while you're doing

00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:22.480
it Yeah, and I think for a makerspace activity

00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.839
really you could do anything with alliteration

00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.819
or Phonological awareness you could use this

00:33:28.819 --> 00:33:32.059
book as your hook to get them like sucked in

00:33:32.059 --> 00:33:36.240
get them engaged and then introduce Really, whatever

00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.359
you need to teach in the classroom for this one.

00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:45.119
I would probably because it's so good with Teaching

00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:47.119
phonological awareness, I would probably work

00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:50.460
with the teacher and see what they've done in

00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:53.299
the classroom so far and if there's any activities

00:33:53.299 --> 00:33:58.539
that they think we should pair with it and to

00:33:58.539 --> 00:34:00.500
kind of build on what they're already doing in

00:34:00.500 --> 00:34:03.240
the classroom. If I wasn't going to talk to the

00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:06.619
teacher, I would probably just create a collage

00:34:06.619 --> 00:34:11.360
or have kids draw things that start with a specific

00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:16.659
letter to work on those phonological skills even

00:34:16.659 --> 00:34:20.039
more. If I was going to do this in the classroom

00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.000
as a teacher, I think I would do this to introduce

00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:27.219
a year -long activity where once a week kids

00:34:27.219 --> 00:34:33.199
would bring in something small that starts with

00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:34.780
whatever letter of the week that we're working

00:34:34.780 --> 00:34:38.780
on. In the library, I wouldn't do that in the

00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:40.619
library because we don't have enough time for

00:34:40.619 --> 00:34:43.559
that and that would like literally be our whole

00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.199
lesson every time and that's Not something I

00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:48.239
would I wouldn't be willing to give up that much

00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:51.519
time for that in the library But as a classroom

00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:53.599
teacher, I think that's what I would do But as

00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.019
a librarian, I think I would primarily work with

00:34:56.019 --> 00:34:58.599
the teacher and see whatever Just because there

00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:03.059
is so much that I know that those pre -k teachers

00:35:03.059 --> 00:35:05.619
have to cover with phonological awareness, I

00:35:05.619 --> 00:35:07.280
would probably work with them to see whatever

00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.239
they think is best. But like I said, if I wasn't

00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.400
gonna do that and I just wanted to do it on my

00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:14.179
own, I think I would create a collage of things

00:35:14.179 --> 00:35:15.820
that start with a specific letter so that the

00:35:15.820 --> 00:35:19.780
kids could still look for things and be thinking

00:35:19.780 --> 00:35:22.199
about things that start with a certain letter

00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.340
and kind of do that work on their own. And as

00:35:25.340 --> 00:35:28.369
far as a collage goes, you could either... That

00:35:28.369 --> 00:35:29.909
would be something that I think they would need

00:35:29.909 --> 00:35:31.550
to do either later of the year where they've

00:35:31.550 --> 00:35:33.230
already learned how to use scissors in their

00:35:33.230 --> 00:35:37.449
classroom, or you could work on, honestly work

00:35:37.449 --> 00:35:40.130
on tearing skills because that's a really good

00:35:40.130 --> 00:35:44.949
fine motor skill. Tearing, if you tear paper

00:35:44.949 --> 00:35:48.710
the right way, ideally you're only using your

00:35:48.710 --> 00:35:51.949
index finger and your thumb, which really is

00:35:51.949 --> 00:35:55.550
a good prerequisite skill for using scissors.

00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:58.780
I don't know how much you want to do that in

00:35:58.780 --> 00:36:00.099
the library cause you don't want them tearing

00:36:00.099 --> 00:36:04.000
up too much. But yeah, I think that's what I

00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:05.659
would go with if I wasn't going to work with

00:36:05.659 --> 00:36:09.659
the teacher. And I think that's a great idea.

00:36:09.659 --> 00:36:12.019
I love it. I love the idea of having the kids

00:36:12.019 --> 00:36:16.480
practice tearing because after this first full

00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.820
week of school, I've spent it in the cafeteria

00:36:18.820 --> 00:36:25.000
for a lunch duty with some grade levels and the

00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:28.150
grade level that I'm in the cafeteria for most

00:36:28.150 --> 00:36:30.190
of the time is second grade and the number of

00:36:30.190 --> 00:36:35.429
kids who can't use those pointer and thumbs to

00:36:35.429 --> 00:36:39.989
tear like chip bags open and stuff like that.

00:36:40.409 --> 00:36:42.909
Like that is this I don't and it's not anything

00:36:42.909 --> 00:36:44.849
against the kids. I think it's honestly a skill

00:36:44.849 --> 00:36:49.349
that isn't practiced nearly as much anymore to

00:36:49.349 --> 00:36:52.070
build that that dexterity and the strength in

00:36:52.070 --> 00:36:55.289
those fingers. So doing little things Clearly,

00:36:55.289 --> 00:36:58.489
if you're tearing little pictures out of magazines

00:36:58.489 --> 00:37:02.369
or little paper, it's not using the muscles a

00:37:02.369 --> 00:37:05.130
ton, but it is building that dexterity, and it

00:37:05.130 --> 00:37:09.110
is using those skills. I just don't think it's

00:37:09.110 --> 00:37:12.630
done a lot anymore, and so I think it's a great

00:37:12.630 --> 00:37:16.150
thing to do with the younger students, for sure.

00:37:16.150 --> 00:37:18.929
I agree. I think in kindergarten now, they just

00:37:18.929 --> 00:37:21.650
jump right into, this is how you use a pencil.

00:37:23.780 --> 00:37:26.440
That not not saying that shouldn't be done. They

00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.639
should do that They need to use how to learn

00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:30.340
how they need to learn how to use the pencil

00:37:30.340 --> 00:37:32.039
But there's other prerequisite skills that come

00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.500
before that That they're really not addressing

00:37:35.500 --> 00:37:38.300
they go straight into this is how you use scissors.

00:37:38.340 --> 00:37:42.039
This is how you use Pencil, but there's all those

00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:43.800
skills before that that they really actually

00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.900
should be you learning at home. They're not Because

00:37:47.900 --> 00:37:50.920
they're you know, our culture has kind of moved

00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.340
away from that in general, and parents aren't

00:37:53.340 --> 00:37:55.000
working on skills at home. They don't really

00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:56.860
know how to work on those skills at home. They

00:37:56.860 --> 00:37:58.820
probably don't recognize that that's an important

00:37:58.820 --> 00:38:04.440
thing to do. And yeah. So anyway, I agree. I

00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.940
think those are good skills for us to practice

00:38:06.940 --> 00:38:13.760
elsewhere. So yeah. All right. Well, thank you

00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.039
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00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:17.960
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