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Welcome to Librarians of Littles. I'm Patrick

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Adams. And I'm Caroline Legere. And this is a

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podcast where we discuss books and makerspace

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activities, give tips and tricks for working

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with pre -K students in the library setting.

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Today, we have two books about grandparents.

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As the school year starts in September, we have

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grandparents day. Grandparents are a big part

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of our students' lives. And so. we decided that

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we would find some grandparent themed books to

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share this week. Um, and I think that we did

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a pretty good job. We found some excellent ones.

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I think so too. Yeah. The first book is I Really

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Want to See You Grandma. It is written and illustrated

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by Taro Gomi and it was published by Chronicle

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Books LLC in 2018 for the English version. Originally,

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it was published in 1979 in the Japanese version.

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This book did get a couple awards and is on a

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couple lists, including Outstanding International

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Books for grades K -2 selection of 2019, the

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Horn Book Fanfare selection for 2018, and El

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Dia de los Niños, El Dia de los Libros, Selection

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2020. The author, Taro Gomi, was born on August

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20th in 1945. He's a graduate of Kuozawa Design

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Institute, and his first book was published in

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1973. He has published more than 400 books in

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Japan. That's amazing. Yes, very amazing. That's

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a huge number, so very impressive. Some of his

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other books include Over the Ocean, The Crocodile

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and the Dentist, Terogomi's Big Book of Words,

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Mommy Mommy, I Know Numbers, What Do You Wear?

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Little truck and one of the most popular of his

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books Everyone poops. It's true. Yes So he's

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done a lot and he's very prolific and many many

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of his books have been translated into multiple

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languages a lot of them being English, so He's

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he's one of those guys that like you don't necessarily

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he's not one of those names that pops out But

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when you start looking at the list of books that

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he's, he's produced, it's impressive. It's like,

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you're like, Oh, yeah, I've read that book, or

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I know of that book, or, you know, like, there's

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quite a few of them that as I was going through

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the list, I was like, Whoa, I know that one and

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that one. But his name isn't one of those names

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that just like stands out, which is sad, because

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he's got some quality books there. He does. I

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Yeah, I've heard of most of these, but I didn't.

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I honestly I didn't recognize his name immediately

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and I hadn't read this book either until you

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suggested it but it's precious and I love it

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and yes it he deserves more recognition I assume

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it's just because he's Japanese and most of it

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was originally written in Japanese that I would

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think that would have definitely have some play

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in it for sure yeah that everything that he does

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has to be translated to English definitely slows

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down that process. Like I said, this book was

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originally published in 1979, but it was done

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in English in 2018. So like, yeah, there's a

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there's definitely a delay there. A little bit.

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So the summary for this book is the story of

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a granddaughter and grandmother that both wish

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to see each other. But as they leave their homes

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and try to meet each other at the opposite person's

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place. They keep passing each other along the

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way until they finally meet in the middle at

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a tree. It's a really cute and fun story. It's

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very simple story. But it like the illustrations

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are just warm and beautiful. And there's a simplicity

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to them that, like, I don't want to say they're

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simple, but There's a simple style to them that

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makes them just so wonderful and it's just this

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sweet story of a Grandmother and their grandchild

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trying to to be there to spend that time together

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and they just keep passing in the night It just

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so it's it's a fun story. I think students will

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enjoy it It's not a long story. So it's easy

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to keep the attention during that story And I

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love that even as they're passing in the different

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vehicles that they're riding in, it's very clear

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that they're not the characters aren't noticing

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each other, but it's very clear for students

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that they're right there. They're so close and

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they're passing and not even realizing it kind

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of thing, which I think makes it a lot more fun.

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So I think this is just a wonderful story. It's

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so cute. I love it. And so I'm definitely saying

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this is a five out of five bookmarks. I think

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it's a, it's a wonderful story that a lot of

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kids can relate to. They like grandparents are

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such a big part of our students' lives. Um, many

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of our students, honestly, a lot of my students

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being like I've mentioned to you previously,

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we live, my, my students, I have a lot of students

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that qualify for pre -K because they're low economic

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or they are in a home that's considered multifamily.

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Many of them are in homes that are multi -generational.

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And so grandparents, for my students anyway,

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play a huge part in, in many of their lives,

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um, because they spend quite a lot of time with

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them. They, a lot of them live with them and

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that kind of thing. And so grandparents in general

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are big part of my kid's story. So they're like

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their stories, their lives. And so this is a

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perfect book. to kind of show that love and that

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appreciation for them. So I really enjoyed the

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book. Yeah, I did too. Like I said, this was

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the first time I'd read it and it was just very

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sweet. I loved that you could just feel the affection

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that the child and the grandmother have for each

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other and that they're just constantly trying

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to connect. While they didn't connect right away,

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they did eventually make that connection and

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they met in the middle. It was just very sweet.

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I love it. I love the persistence of it too.

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Neither of them really gave up and they were

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like, this is going to happen. Yeah. And that's

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a good message to teach our kids too, is to keep

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trying, right? Yeah. So a makerspace activity

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to do with this lesson, I thought since in this

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story, The two characters the granddaughter and

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the grandmother travel in many different ways.

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The at one point the granddaughter travels by

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bus while the grandmother travels by train another

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time one of the characters travels by. Like truck

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that is passing by and the other by taxi and

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then at the end it's like. The little girl is

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traveling by scooter while the grandmother is

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traveling by motorcycle. So there's all these

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different vehicles that they're trying to use

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to get to each other. So I thought it'd be really

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fun to have the Legos and have the students build

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different vehicles to help the grandmother and

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granddaughter get to each other. So giving those

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kids a chance to kind of build some different

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vehicles to help those wayward family members

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get back to each other would be a cute way. for

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the kids to make a connection with the book.

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Um, if you had the little mini figs of like different

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characters, you could use those as well. Personally,

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I don't use the mini figures, but I know that

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so many of my kids get creative and they build

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their own little figures using the blocks. And

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so having them be able to build those little

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figures with the blocks and then put them onto

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different vehicles that they build so they can

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try and retell the story would be a really fun

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activity for a lot of them to do. Yeah. And I

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love that. I love that that both involves you

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know the creativity portion of it with the building

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and creating a vehicle but then they could also

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like reenact it or like extend upon the story

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and kind of have a literature component to it

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well i mean that's the goal right yeah all of

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them have a literature component to them but

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that you do the story retelling with it as well

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so they can do the story extension there that's

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great Yeah. So I think that would be a fun way

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to share this story and definitely a really cool

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way to have the kids be creative. And then like,

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if your campus has a day where you have actually

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have like a grandparents day where grandparents

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get to come in to like the classroom or into

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the different settings, if they come to the library,

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you could read this story and have grandchildren

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with grandparents, and then they could work together

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to build the vehicles with the Legos and do that

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too, which would be really cool. I know my campus,

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we don't get the chance to actually have the

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grandparents come into the classrooms, but I

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know some campuses do invite the grandparents

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to stay all day for Grandparents Day and that

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kind of thing. And so that would be a cool way

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to have multi -generational makerspace going

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on, which would be pretty awesome. That would

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be, I like it. All right. So that already brings

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us to our library of littles management tip for

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this week. This week, we're going to be talking

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about newsletters. This year, I'm terrible. I

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mentioned this to you, Caroline. I'm so terrible.

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I am. I'm so terrible at self -promotion in the

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library. Self -promotion for me is just one of

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the hardest things to do to keep Our families

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up to date on all the different things that are

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happening in the library when i've got. All the

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different things happening i'm juggling so many

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balls in the air and to. To promote myself and

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to let everyone know what's happening is. So

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very important but it's usually the thing that's

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last on my list of things to worry about and

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so this year i'm gonna be getting much much better

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with that i'm doing a monthly newsletter where.

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the first week of every month. I'm going to send

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out a newsletter with some of the things that

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are coming up. We're going to include like future

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dates for the month, events and activities that

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are coming up. I'll include some pictures and

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some things that we did from the month before,

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including like some of the makerspace activities,

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stuff like that. Also, I'm planning to, I have

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student helpers in the library. So I'm going

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to be doing spotlights on my student helpers

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that are helping to keep the books on the shelves

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and organized and all that kind of stuff. Uh,

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as well as just kind of like including some of

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the upcoming themes that we're going to hit.

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Like in September, it'll be easy to like have

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a little blurb about Hispanic American heritage

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month and that kind of thing. Like, you know,

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little things like that to just let everyone

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know what's happening because I feel like a lot

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of times I'm just kind of in my own little cave

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and yeah like the students and I are in there

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and they know we're doing this stuff but that

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doesn't always get communicated out to the parents

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and so I need to be better about communicating

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all the things that are happening within the

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library walls. Like my parents know when there's

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a book fair and that kind of thing. They know

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when certain activities are happening because

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they have to sign permission slips and that kind

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of stuff. But like the monthly day to day kind

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of things that are going on in the library are

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not things that the parents know about. Like

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we even you and I even mentioned like we could

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include in the monthly newsletter, some information

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about like checkout data, like how many books

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have we checked out in the last month? How many

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books are overdue this month? Like that kind

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of stuff, just to give some like statistical

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data also, like anything I can do to self promote,

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I need to get better at it so that my community

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is aware of everything that I'm doing and all

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the work that I'm doing with the kids. Cause

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otherwise it just, oh, you're the librarian.

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You, you give the kids books and that's the extent

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of my parents knowledge of what I'm doing, which

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Granted not the worst but really not even It's

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just service level of all the stuff, you know,

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it's the tip of the iceberg Absolutely. Yeah,

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like we're doing so many more things. And so

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I need to get better about Self -promoting letting

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everyone know all the great stuff that really

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is happening Because you know if if I take some

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pictures of the kids working on a makerspace

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activity after we read a book And I can put that

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in the newsletter. Like that's somebody's kids.

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Somebody's going to see that and be like, Hey,

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that was my kid. They did that. That's so cool.

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Like even just that little bit. Um, it just can

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be so powerful to share those, those things with

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the parents. And so I have already been working

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in Canva looking at different newsletter templates.

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And so I think I found the one that I'm going

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to use for mine. Um, but yeah, I'm going to make

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sure that I have that. I'm going to make sure

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that I work with my principal. so that that gets

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sent out every month. And my campus has a library

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Facebook page that it'll be posted on. And then

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the campus Facebook page will repost the library's

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post of the newsletter so that everybody has

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access to both Facebook accounts and we'll be

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able to see it that way and through email. So.

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Anything anything we can do to promote ourselves

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and make sure that the community understands

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the impact that we're having because in a in

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a time when Libraries are being questioned as

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to their importance We want to make sure that

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everybody understands that we really are important

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and that we're having an impact on their students

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education So any way that we can show that is

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always important Absolutely Yeah Yeah, you're

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right. A lot of people don't really realize I

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think kind of understandably so how much goes

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into the library. I think for most professions

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in general, you don't really realize all the

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different aspects of everything that person does.

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And the library is no exception to that. There's

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just a lot that goes on behind the scenes and

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a lot of bonus things that other people don't

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really see. And it makes it even harder because

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we're the only one. So if we don't say it, literally

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no one will know. And it can be hard and uncomfortable

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to kind of tutor on horns because we're kind

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of as a culture kind of value humility and being

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humble and kind of self -deprecation a little

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bit. So that makes it even more challenging.

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But you're right. Like if if we don't say it,

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nobody else knows about it. It's it's not going

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to like we know we're doing amazing things, but

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we need. the parents of the community to be aware

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of it as well. So they don't cut our funding.

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That self -advocacy piece is really pretty crucial.

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So yeah, a newsletter is a great way to let everybody

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know what's going on. It's, you know, predictable

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and regular and kind of holds us accountable

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too. So we have a deadline and can make sure

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that we share that with everyone. It's important

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stuff. So I will hopefully Do that. Maybe I'll

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do like a quarterly one this year. Or maybe I'll

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do like a, just like a wrap up each semester

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with like our circulation stats and highlight

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some of the great things that we've done. But

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starting on a new campus this year, I don't,

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I would love to, I think monthly is ideal, but

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I'm establishing a lot of things right now. If

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you do it like every, every quarter, every grading

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period. Yeah, that would be a good start. And

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then you can just improve from there, right?

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think I'll do that this year,

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too Okay. Anyway for our next book. I love that.

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We both accidentally picked Books with Asian

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characters. That's fun Yes, the other book says

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something about that culture and the importance

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of grandparents to I think maybe I think it might

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Yeah, I think Yeah exactly I think that's very

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accurate. And it's important to highlight other

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cultures as well. But this one, the next book

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that we're going to talk about today is called

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Drawn Together. It was printed by Disney Hyperion

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in 2018. The author is Minh Le and the illustrator

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is Dan Santat. And this book has won quite a

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few awards. I did not know how many until we

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went to do this episode. It's got a total of

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10 awards. It got the Anna Dudney Read Together

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Honor in 2019, Asian Pacific American Award for

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Literature in 2019, Notable Children's Books

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and Language Arts Award in 2019, ALSC Notable

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Children's Book 2019, Charlotte Huck Award 2019,

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Notable Books for a Global Society 2019, Junior

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Library Guild Selection 2018, and School Library

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Journal Best Books of the Year for 2018. It is

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on a total of 16 state lists, a few of which

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are California Young Reader Medal for 2021, Colorado

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Children's Book Award 2020, Georgia Children's

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Book Award 2019, Illinois Monarch Award 2021,

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Texas Little Maverick Novel Reading List 2020,

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and Vermont Red Clover Award 2019. And for our

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author history, Minh Le is a Vietnamese -American

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award -winning author of children's picture books

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and middle grade graphic novels. He's worked

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in education at the state, national, and local

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level and is on the board of the organization

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We Need Diverse Books. He holds a bachelor's

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in psychology from Dartmouth College and a master's

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in education policy from Harvard University.

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He currently lives in San Diego with his wife

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and children. And some of the other books that

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he's written, quite a few of them are with Dan

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Santat. Some of those are Built to Last, Lift,

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and The Blur. Some other books he's written are

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Let Me Finish, illustrated by Isabel Roxas. The

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Perfect Seat, illustrated by Gus Gordon. The

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Real Me, illustrated by Raisa Figueroa. Green

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Lantern Legacy illustrated by Andy Dong. Green

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Lantern Alliance illustrated by Andy Dong. And

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Enlighten Me illustrated by Chan. I don't know

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how to say that. Chao? Chao? Gonna go with Chao.

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That sounds great. Yeah. Yeah. And the Illustrator.

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is Dan Santat. He is a Caldecott award -winning

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artist who grew up in Southern California and

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graduated from the Art Center College of Design.

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Santat is the creator of the animated series,

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The Replacements, and he lives outside of Los

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Angeles with his wife, two kids, and many, many

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pets. So Some of Dan Santat's other books, books

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that he has illustrated, include Endlessly Ever

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After, written by Laurel Snyder. A New Day, written

00:21:21.289 --> 00:21:28.609
by Brad Meltzer. The Misfits series by Lisa Yee.

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No More Poems, a book in verse that just gets

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worse by Rhett Miller. Oh No, or How My Science

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Project Destroyed the World by Mack Bennett,

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Dude by Aaron Reynolds, and the Ricky Ricotta

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Mighty Robot series by Dave Pilkey. Books that

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he has both written and illustrated include A

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First Time for Everything, The Adventures of

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Beekle, The Unimaginary Friend, After the Fall,

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How Humpty Dumpty Got Back Up Again, and many,

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many more. And this book, so I didn't know before

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we did this particular episode, but there's a

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really, really, really good PBS Books YouTube

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with Men lay reading this book and it's this

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book is it's a nearly wordless picture book.

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And it's about a young boy's mother who drops

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him off at his tie speaking grandfather's house

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for a visit and at first glance it looks as though

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they have nothing in common they try to connect

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but they just. I can't get there they both speak

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different languages and eat different food enjoy

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different tv shows and after missing that connection

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and. repeatedly missing the mark, they finally

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learned that they're both passionate about art

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and they connect with each other through their

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drawings. And in the PBS books, YouTube video

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with Menle reading it, like he kind of explains

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all of the different little pieces with the book.

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I learned that Menle is Vietnamese and his grandmother,

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either his grandmother or his grandfather, only

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spoke Vietnamese. And they kind of had a very

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similar relationship from, you know, grandchild

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to grandparent, as in this book. And Dan Santat

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had the same experience, but his family is Thai.

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So I don't remember, one of them had a grandmother

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or grandfather that they were trying to connect

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with that didn't speak. English at all and they

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were both English speaking and they didn't realize

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that until after they like were halfway through

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reading or creating this book together that they

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Pretty much had the same childhood experience

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and they both dedicated it to their grandparents,

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which was really sweet but Because this is nearly

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wordless. It's like really I like to do it with

00:24:12.990 --> 00:24:17.529
pre -k because It's a really good one for like

00:24:17.529 --> 00:24:20.720
a lot of pre -k kids will you know, when they're

00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:23.759
in the library and you tell them that, you know,

00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:27.079
you can go read a book, they'll say, No, I don't

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know how to read. That's not possible for me.

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So I like to start with something like this,

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because then you can just look at the pictures

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and I'm like, Look, there's no letters on this

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page. No letters means no words. You tell me

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what you see in the book, and we'll read it together.

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So then that's that kind of introduces the kids

00:24:46.930 --> 00:24:50.410
to like, Oh, I can still read this book. But

00:24:50.410 --> 00:24:53.210
this one in particular, it does a really, really

00:24:53.210 --> 00:24:59.380
good job with you can see like the Like when

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they sit down together the grandson is eating

00:25:02.619 --> 00:25:04.660
a hot dog Which is you know, the quintessential

00:25:04.660 --> 00:25:06.420
American meal over there like burgers and hot

00:25:06.420 --> 00:25:08.000
dogs. That's like you don't get more American

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food than that While the grandfather is eating

00:25:12.380 --> 00:25:16.500
ramen, which is I I mean I think to most people

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Looking at that like you would see that and you're

00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.259
like that's Asian food with a four -year -old

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They may or may not recognize it as being like

00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:29.099
a different Cultured like culturally different

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I guess so you would have to point out things

00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.019
like that like the cultural differences and you

00:25:34.019 --> 00:25:37.000
would have to kind of Just point out how they're

00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:40.000
trying to connect but not quite making it there

00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.779
the kids can still read their facial expressions

00:25:42.779 --> 00:25:45.460
and Like you can tell by the way the characters

00:25:45.460 --> 00:25:48.480
are looking at each other that they want To connect

00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:50.880
with each other like they're smiling sometimes

00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.220
and they're kind of looking at each other. Like

00:25:53.220 --> 00:25:56.980
are you interested in this? I don't know and

00:25:56.980 --> 00:26:02.039
there are a few words like on the page not a

00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.799
ton like I said like it is nearly wordless but

00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:09.039
not quite there and on those with those words

00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:12.759
like it's written in like the the words that

00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:17.059
the grandfather is speaking to the grandson is

00:26:17.059 --> 00:26:20.460
in Thai so like You can point that out to kids,

00:26:20.460 --> 00:26:22.039
and I have done that before when reading this

00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:24.680
book to classes. I'm like, that doesn't look

00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:27.160
like, I don't see a letter A in there, do you?

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None of those are letters that we recognize because

00:26:32.180 --> 00:26:35.140
he's not speaking English like we are. He's speaking

00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:37.460
a different language. And look, we do see that

00:26:37.460 --> 00:26:40.140
the grandson is saying these words, and we see

00:26:40.140 --> 00:26:43.079
those letters. We know these letters, so he's

00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:45.079
speaking English because we can recognize those

00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.150
letters. So like you would have to point out

00:26:48.150 --> 00:26:52.829
things like that But I absolutely love this book

00:26:52.829 --> 00:26:56.630
I love how they you know, it doesn't just such

00:26:56.630 --> 00:26:59.349
a good job of showing them trying to connect

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I love that it is nearly wordless so kids can

00:27:03.230 --> 00:27:07.269
kind of learn to read the pictures more or less

00:27:07.269 --> 00:27:10.490
on their own and When they do connect through

00:27:10.490 --> 00:27:13.569
those drawings the grandson has you know, very

00:27:13.569 --> 00:27:18.519
bright and vivid markers, and the grandfather

00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:21.880
only has like black and white pens and paint.

00:27:22.339 --> 00:27:25.220
And so they do use different art mediums. And

00:27:25.220 --> 00:27:28.420
then when they do start their drawings, like

00:27:28.420 --> 00:27:31.640
it kind of goes into their, it shows their them

00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:35.920
dressed up doing their drawings. And it kind

00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:41.480
of shows them trading their the boy trades. his

00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.180
markers for you know the grandfather's black

00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:47.779
and white paints and such so it kind of shows

00:27:47.779 --> 00:27:50.359
how they kind of share that connection and they

00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:53.279
keep that connection even though they don't speak

00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.420
the same language and even though they have so

00:27:55.420 --> 00:27:58.279
many differences i just i absolutely love it

00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:00.519
this one for me is definitely a five out of five

00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.799
it's just so beautiful and i don't know the colors

00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:08.099
are so vivid and so bright it has Dan Santana

00:28:08.099 --> 00:28:12.200
has a very distinct, almost half anime, half

00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.140
kind of American drawing, kind of the way you

00:28:14.140 --> 00:28:18.480
would expect him. Maybe not expect, but you would,

00:28:18.619 --> 00:28:22.119
that's probably heavily influenced by his Asian

00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.059
background. But I don't know. This is one of

00:28:25.059 --> 00:28:27.519
my favorite books. Dan Santana is one of my favorite

00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:33.519
creators. I love it a lot. Yeah. Totally agree.

00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:38.279
This was just such a charming, sweet book. It

00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.180
was wonderful. I was so happy when I saw that

00:28:41.180 --> 00:28:47.500
you selected this one. Yes, I have not found

00:28:47.500 --> 00:28:50.500
a bad book that Dan Santat has been a part of.

00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.019
Especially when they work together, I just love

00:28:56.019 --> 00:29:01.319
how the storytelling just kind of gets elevated

00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:05.309
to a whole new level when Dance and Tap and Minle

00:29:05.309 --> 00:29:08.750
work together. They, so many of their books are

00:29:08.750 --> 00:29:11.789
on my favorites list. Like I love to use them

00:29:11.789 --> 00:29:15.589
with students and I love how quite a few of them

00:29:15.589 --> 00:29:21.849
are like minimalist in the use of words and they

00:29:21.849 --> 00:29:25.809
still tell such a powerful story. And so I really,

00:29:25.809 --> 00:29:29.599
I love to include a lot of the books that they

00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.819
work on together in my lessons throughout the

00:29:31.819 --> 00:29:34.339
year because they're just so wonderful. And so

00:29:34.339 --> 00:29:37.519
this is at the top of the list there too. And

00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:44.519
I think that a lot of our students love art and

00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:46.480
love to draw and that kind of thing. And so to

00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:49.200
see it as a way to communicate with someone else

00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.400
is, it's something that, especially in pre -K,

00:29:52.460 --> 00:29:55.700
I don't think a lot of them ever think about.

00:29:55.779 --> 00:29:58.849
And so it's a nice, new idea for them to see

00:29:58.849 --> 00:30:02.049
that their artwork can be a form of communication

00:30:02.049 --> 00:30:07.910
also. So really fun. Love this book. Yeah, I

00:30:07.910 --> 00:30:09.869
love it a whole lot. Like pretty much everything

00:30:09.869 --> 00:30:14.609
they do is kind of amazing. Yeah. Yeah. For a

00:30:14.609 --> 00:30:17.950
makerspace activity, because this book does center

00:30:17.950 --> 00:30:22.109
around art in a really big way, I would just

00:30:22.109 --> 00:30:26.210
put out lot of different choices for kids to

00:30:26.210 --> 00:30:28.569
use to create their own art just maybe get like

00:30:28.569 --> 00:30:32.450
a really big piece of butcher paper and lay it

00:30:32.450 --> 00:30:35.849
across the table and then have everybody get

00:30:35.849 --> 00:30:39.990
something and not necessarily the same thing

00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:45.990
and kind of create their art together. So yeah,

00:30:45.990 --> 00:30:49.250
I would put out like crayons and markers and

00:30:49.250 --> 00:30:53.240
pens if I was feeling brave. I might do, I probably

00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:55.160
wouldn't do paint actually with something like

00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:58.119
this because there would be so many kids in the

00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:00.839
same spot. But I'll probably stick with like

00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.819
colored pencils, crayons and markers so everybody

00:31:03.819 --> 00:31:05.619
could have something different. And because there

00:31:05.619 --> 00:31:08.079
is the black and white in the book as well with

00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:12.079
the grandfather, I would probably get just some

00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.079
pens as well. And I'll probably do less messy

00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.680
things due to the number of kids using it at

00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.460
the same time, but kind of create our own. Big

00:31:22.460 --> 00:31:26.579
drawing like they saw in the book Yeah, and see

00:31:26.579 --> 00:31:30.380
what everybody could bring to that drawing I

00:31:30.380 --> 00:31:33.500
Love that. That's really cool end up with this

00:31:33.500 --> 00:31:36.180
beautiful mural that the kids all work together

00:31:36.180 --> 00:31:38.690
on kind of thing Yeah, and then you could like

00:31:38.690 --> 00:31:40.930
hang it up if that depending on I don't know,

00:31:40.970 --> 00:31:42.430
I guess it depends on how many classes did it.

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I don't know if you'd have room for it or not.

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Or you could give it to the classroom teacher

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and they could hang it up if they if you didn't

00:31:48.529 --> 00:31:50.410
have enough space. That would be something kind

00:31:50.410 --> 00:31:53.329
of cool to have in their classroom to that would

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I bet they would like Yeah, the kid and the kids

00:31:55.210 --> 00:31:57.849
would probably enjoy seeing the work that they

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created altogether like that as well. Yeah. Very

00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:04.680
cool. The other thing that I thought is you could

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and I haven't used them So I don't know how messy

00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.460
they would get but they now have like sharpie

00:32:09.460 --> 00:32:14.819
makes like paint pens So they're a little expensive

00:32:14.819 --> 00:32:19.619
because I bought my wife some for school Five

00:32:19.619 --> 00:32:22.259
of them they're like oil or yeah, they're water

00:32:22.259 --> 00:32:24.660
based their watercolor based Because you can

00:32:24.660 --> 00:32:26.480
get watercolor based or the oil ones, but like

00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.119
the watercolor ones I think I got a pack of five.

00:32:29.339 --> 00:32:31.970
It's like 20 bucks for them. So they're not cheap.

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Yeah. But I like, I don't think they're gonna

00:32:36.009 --> 00:32:39.309
be super messy either. So it's a way to introduce

00:32:39.309 --> 00:32:43.150
paint maybe without all the mess. So it's something

00:32:43.150 --> 00:32:45.170
that if you had them lying around, if you had

00:32:45.170 --> 00:32:48.609
them and you wanted to introduce them that way,

00:32:48.630 --> 00:32:51.190
you could add those in. But I think you're right.

00:32:51.289 --> 00:32:54.630
I think like trying to Like adding like watercolors

00:32:54.630 --> 00:32:56.970
with paint and everything. That would be a nightmare

00:32:56.970 --> 00:33:01.390
this early, like in September, especially we're

00:33:01.390 --> 00:33:03.630
not ready in September, right? Not in September.

00:33:03.869 --> 00:33:06.230
We're around grandparents today. But, um, also

00:33:06.230 --> 00:33:08.849
just if everyone is participating together, you're

00:33:08.849 --> 00:33:10.529
going to have people putting elbows in it and

00:33:10.529 --> 00:33:12.210
stuff like that. So I think that you're right

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to keep it out of it. It keep paint out of it,

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but you might be able to find some other ways

00:33:17.329 --> 00:33:21.549
to do it, but Yeah, super cool idea. I love that

00:33:21.549 --> 00:33:24.170
idea of just like all of them working together

00:33:24.170 --> 00:33:27.410
to do something. That'd be cool. Yeah, it'd be

00:33:27.410 --> 00:33:31.549
a lot of fun. All right, well thank you all for

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00:34:22.650 --> 00:34:25.949
started a massive dot day at my school. I just,

00:34:26.389 --> 00:34:29.989
I did not on purpose. I just asked the art teacher

00:34:29.989 --> 00:34:33.130
if they ever do anything for dot day. And she

00:34:33.130 --> 00:34:37.710
was like, no, but we should let's go. And now

00:34:37.710 --> 00:34:41.329
it's, I don't know. It just, it just slowly got

00:34:41.329 --> 00:34:44.690
bigger and bigger. Okay. So there's, she's doing

00:34:44.690 --> 00:34:47.010
like a three week project with them in the art

00:34:47.010 --> 00:34:49.019
room. And we're going to hang up all the things

00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:51.039
around the school and it's just going to be a

00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:55.340
dress up day. And that's cool. The principal's

00:34:55.340 --> 00:34:58.059
getting little dot candies for everybody and

00:34:58.059 --> 00:35:01.460
the art teachers hosting an after school staff

00:35:01.460 --> 00:35:05.519
dot making party. Okay. That's pretty awesome.

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Yeah.
