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Hello, I'm Patrick Adams. And I am Caroline Legere.

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And this is Librarians of Littles, a podcast

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where we discuss books, give makerspace ideas,

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and give tips and tricks for working with our

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youngest learners in the library setting. This

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week we will be discussing two more of the Texas

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2x2 list books. Texas 2x2 list books are a list

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of books curated by the Texas Library Association

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every year. It's a list of 20 books that are

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excellent stories for students between the ages

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of two. and second grade. And this week we have

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two Texas 2x2 books to share. The first of which

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is Adela's Mariachi Band. It is a Penguin Random

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House book from 2024. The author is Denise Vega.

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The illustrator is Erika Rodriguez Medina. And

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this book is on a couple of lists. First, the

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ALSC Notable Children's Book Commended List for

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2025, and the Teacher Favorite Awards Grade K

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-2 Selection for 2025, and the Texas 2x2 List

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for 2025. Our author, Denise Vega, so a little

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bit about her. When Denise Vega was in kindergarten,

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her parents sent her to a special art class where

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she learned that she liked art, but she eventually

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found that she liked writing better. When she

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was 12, she wrote and illustrated her first book,

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entitled The Laziest Laziness of Peter Rabbit,

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and she actually has a link to see some pictures

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of it and stuff like that on her website. She

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is a fiction and young adult mentor at Regis

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University, MFA, in creative writing. And she

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also facilitates an optional picture book writing

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semester. She's an adjunct faculty for the professional

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creative writing program at the University College

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at University of Denver. And she's also on the

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faculty at the Lighthouse Writers Workshop. writing

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for children and young adults. Some of her other

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books include If Your Monster Won't Go To Bed,

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illustrated by Zachariah O 'Hara, Grandmother,

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Have the Angels Come, illustrated by Erin Eiter

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Kona, Fact of Life Number 31, Rock On, a story

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of guitars, gigs, girls, and a brother, not necessarily

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in that order. and Build a Burrito, a Counting

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Book in English and Spanish, illustrated by David

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Diaz. And the illustrator of this book is Erika

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Rodriguez Medina, and she is a Mexican illustrator

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and book publicist living in Canada. She enjoys

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expressive characters, scribbly lines and grainy

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textures in her illustrations. And some of her

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other books include There Goes Patti McGee, The

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Story of the First Women's National Skateboard

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Champion by Tootie Nienel, The Tunnel by Sarah

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Howden, Fighting Words by Leonardo Carranza,

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Margot and the Moon Landing by A .C. Fitzpatrick,

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48 Grasshopper Estates by Sarah DeWall, and I

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Love My Body Because. by Shelly Anand and Nomi

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Ellinson. And so this book, Adela is a young

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girl whose family is in a mariachi band. Her

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aunt shouts the los gritos and plays the violin.

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Her father plays the trumpet. Her uncle plays

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la vihuela and her mother and sisters twirl and

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swirl their skirts with the music. Adela wants

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to be in the mariachi band and with her family,

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but she knows that she needs much more practice

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with her dancing and with the instruments. In

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the end, Adela finds her place in the band when

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she realizes that she can be the one to shout

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the los gritos and so she finally finds her place

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and feels like part of the mariachi band herself.

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I really enjoyed the story. I thought it was

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super cute. It is such a sweet story of a young

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child just wanting to kind of find their place

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in their family. She wants to be good at all

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of the instruments and she wants to be successful

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right away, which is very relatable for the students.

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They always want to be the best and pick it up

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so quickly. A lot of kids kind of struggle when

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they find out that there's work and practice

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involved when learning new skills. And so there

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can be some frustration there. And Adela kind

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of shows us that she can, she's getting kind

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of that frustration too. Fortunately for Adela,

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you know, finding her place by... recognizing

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some of her own strengths. It's just a very sweet

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and relatable story, kind of heartwarming. The

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illustrations are beautiful. I love how vibrant

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they are. And then there's the mixing in of some

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Spanish words to add that authenticity to the

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story. I would definitely suggest if you're going

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to read this out loud, practice saying all of

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those Spanish words a couple times, read through,

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find the correct pronunciations of them because

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there are quite a few in there. But I just love

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how it they slip in and the way they're used

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it helps you to understand the meanings even

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if you're not completely familiar with them but

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I love that. And then what's really cool I thought

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was awesome was at the end of the book there's

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an author's note that explains a little bit more

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about mariachi bands and the author's experiences

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with them and so that's kind of cool so that

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you can bring it back to that and give the kids

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some more. like non -fiction kind of connection

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to it as well. So I really enjoyed this story.

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I love that throughout the story, there's also

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lots of like sounds of the music and of the instruments

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and things like that. So you get to be kind of

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silly and make a lot of noises throughout the

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book to keep the kids engaged. I think this was

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a really great story. I definitely give it like,

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I think four and a half to five star, five bookmarks

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for sure. Like definitely it's solid story, really

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enjoyable. Think a lot of kids would enjoy it

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and be able to really relate to it, too Yeah,

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really great. I agree. This one was really cute.

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This was the first time I'd read it and I really

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appreciated how the simplicity of it the both

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the text and the illustrations were Simple but

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in a really good way where it was just it was

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short and sweet and to the point which is super

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important when you're reading books to our youngest

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learners. And then, like you said, those illustrations

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were just so vibrant. And really, I felt it did

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a great job kind of encapsulating Mexican culture.

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It was very sweet. I loved it. It was a good

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one. It was really good. I'm glad that the Texas

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2x2 group decided to add this one to the list

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because it really is a great story. And I think

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a lot of students will enjoy it. So I think so

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too. There's, they did a really great job with

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their diversity this year on this list. And this

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is another good book for that. For sure. So if

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we're going to read this story in the library,

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adding in a maker space activity. Now we've done

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this before, but this is like a solid, easy.

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kind of, you probably have most of the supplies

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available to you. So this would work really well.

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Um, just making some paper plate tambourines

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to make some music, you know, take those paper

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plates, which are pretty easily, if you don't

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already have them, they're cheap, they're, it's

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a easy consumable supply to get pretty quickly.

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Um, so some paper plates, some like dried beans

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or beads or something that will make some noise

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when being shaken. and you just take that paper

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plate, fold it in half with some dried beans

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or some beads in there, staple it closed, and

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then let the kids kind of decorate it with markers,

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crayons, colored pencils, whatever you want to

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do. You could even, like, if you wanted to use

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some, like, have them tear up some tissue paper

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and kind of glue little pieces of tissue paper

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on it, whatever you want, to decorate those little

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tambourines so they can leave making some of

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their own music as well. Uh, I think that the

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kids, anytime they can make something that they

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can take away with them is really great. And

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then if you can add in the fact that that thing

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makes some kind of noise is just. Just icing

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on the cake. They love that. So, and it's the

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best to get in the library where you can send

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them away to their classrooms with it. Yep. Just

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another added bonus added bonus for that. For

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sure. Yeah, I know. But yeah, this is one of

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my favorite activities to do in the library,

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too. It's like you said, it's really, I love

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that they get to create something on their own.

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They get to keep it forever, which is kind of

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a big deal for them and helps them be a little

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bit more creative. And it's really a pretty cheap

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way to give them that opportunity because a lot

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of our kids, you just don't know what our kids

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have at home and you don't know what they have

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access to. So giving them anything like this

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kind of helps for them to kind of keep them a

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little bit more engaged and gives them something

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tangible to bring home with them because they

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may or may not ever get to experience instruments

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or anything like that elsewhere. So good opportunity

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for them. And then if you have a good relationship,

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if you've got a music teacher on your campus

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that you've got a good relationship with, you

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can work with them and you could find like, I

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know there are some YouTube videos and stuff

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also, but you could find ways to have the kids

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then use those shakers to make a beat or, you

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know, kind of make some music and kind of extend

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it even further, which is because like you said,

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music education is so important and a lot of

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kids might not get a lot of that personally my

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campus our pre -k students don't go to art or

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music oh no no they don't go they won't go to

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art or music until their kindergarten year interesting

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yeah they're specials on my campus they go to

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me for library They go to our makerspace lab

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teacher and they go to PE and those are the three

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things that they go to. And that's, that's it.

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So they don't get art or music until kindergarten.

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So like a little bit of an early introduction

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with that and being able to work with the art

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or music teachers to kind of incorporate some

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of that really just beneficial to the students.

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If they're, if they're not getting that consistently,

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being able to kind of bring it in in the library

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and bring it in. with their collaboration so

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that they get some of that experience can be

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really beneficial because we all know that music

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education, art education has lasting impacts

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on a student's ability to learn and be successful

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in other areas of academics as well. It sure

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does. It's very important. So yeah, any way that

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we can kind of incorporate those other... those

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other areas is always nice. So I love being able

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to make like musical instruments and stuff too.

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Yeah. Yeah. All right. So speaking of collaborating

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with other teachers, our Library of Littles management

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tip this week is about building relationships

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with your campus teachers. A large part of our

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job is working with students, but there's another

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part of it, which is being able to collaborate

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with your teachers that are on the campus. We

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all have those teachers that have never actually

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stepped in the library or only come into the

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library because there's a faculty meeting happening

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in there or something like that. We've got those

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teachers that have never come in to talk to you

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and ask what resources are available in the library

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or to ask about helping a student with a certain,

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looking for a certain kind of book, any of that

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kind of stuff. Some teachers are going to naturally

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come to you and ask for help and ask for input.

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Others aren't. And so we can't just stay in our,

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our caves and our libraries and hope that they

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show up. We got to reach out to them and build

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those relationships to get them to come into

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the library. And anyway, we can do that to get

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their foot in the door. Then we can kind of just

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grab onto that and go from there. So like, there's

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lots of different ways that you can do this.

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One of the ways that I. find is very, very successful,

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I'll say is when I have a book fair, personally,

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when I have a book fair, especially when I do

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like, because I, on my campus, we do a scholastic

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book fair in the fall, and we do literati in

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the spring, both have their benefits and their

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detractions. But that's That's how my campus

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does it. And it seems to work. But Scholastic

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is really good because those Scholastic points,

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you can build up those Scholastic points as you

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sell books in your book fair. I love to do that

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because what I do is then I use those Scholastic

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points that I build up to give away books to

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teachers. And so what I do is like, I have like

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any given year, my campus is fortunate enough,

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we do pretty well with our book fair that like

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after last year's book fair, in keeping in mind

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that I gave away, I wanna say 45 or 50 books

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to teachers last fall. I still have, I have $4

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,000 that Scholastic keeps sending me. Hey, you

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have $4 ,000 Scholastic dollars to spend. So

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what I do is during those book fairs, I will

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come up with like trivia questions to have read

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over the announcements. And I tell the teachers

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the first X number of teachers that send me the

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correct answer win a free book. Oh. And so what

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that means, what that does is I get, you know,

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I get eight or 10 teachers that send me the,

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they send me an email. So there's a timestamp.

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So the first eight or 10 or whatever, I decide

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number of teachers that send me the correct answer

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to whatever the trivia is. I let them know. you

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need to come down to the library before the end

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of the day, Friday, and you get a free book from

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the book fair. And then they come in and they're

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like, I guess I get a free book or whatever.

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And then once they're in there, I tell them,

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okay, first off, you got to pick a free book

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from the book fair. I usually don't cap it at

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a certain price level, because like I said, I've

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got enough scholastic dollars I can spend on

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that kind of thing. And so I kind of keep that

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in mind throughout it. when I'm deciding how

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many winners I have also to keep myself within

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reasonable ranges. But then they come in, they

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get they come down to the library, they come

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in, they start getting that free book, and then

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I can start talking to them. Once they're in

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there, it's a lot easier to get them to listen

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to me, you know, so like, once they step that

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foot in that door, that's when I take my chance.

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And I'm like, Hey, by the way, while you're in

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here, I think third grade's about to start their

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research projects. Let me show you what we have

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in our non -fiction section that might be helpful

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for you or, you know, like that kind of thing.

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Kind of grab them in, pull them in that way.

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I also, this year I'm going to start something

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new. I'm going to do some potty training, which

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is where I'm going to, every month I'm going

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to put a flyer in the restrooms in all of the

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adult staff restrooms with information about

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Like some tech tips and some information about

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different things that are happening in our library

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so that they know what's going on also In the

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library and so it's just kind of right there.

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So when you're using the restroom It's right

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there on the wall at eye level so that you end

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up seeing it You know different things like that

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just to get them to know what's going on and

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to get their foot in the door once they're in

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the library then I can do my job and show them

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all the things but it's getting them to come

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in, you know? So anything I can do to get them

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in. And it can be hard. I also, I'll tell you,

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another thing to go with book fairs is the week

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before the book fair, like the Friday before

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the book fair. Now Fridays at the end of the

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day, people want to get out and I get that. What

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I do is that Friday before the book fair starts

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or that Monday, the first day of book fair depends.

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But like if I can get the book fair set up in

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time, that Friday I'll have like chips and queso

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and stuff like that out to get teachers to come

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in and make their wish lists and if I can't get

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it done that before so that it's ready for right

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after school for teachers to come in I'll do

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on that Monday the first week of book book fair

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I'll bring in donuts and I just send out an email

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and invite everybody to come in and make their

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wish list and say hey by the way there's free

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chips and Queso or the hey, there's donuts in

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the library come down and make your wish list

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and it gets them in it gets their foot in the

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door so that I can then Jump right on and like

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go into my spiel about all the stuff that I can

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offer to help out with and that kind of thing

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You know, um, cuz that's what it is. It's getting

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them in once they get in and they realize what's

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available You know what? I've had some I had

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some teachers the first year that I was at my

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current campus that were like I don't really

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use a library much and I was like But look I

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can do this this and this And once I did it,

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they were like, wow, that worked really well.

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And this past year they came back and they're

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like, Hey, remember last year when you did, can

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we do that again? Absolutely. Let's do it. You

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know, like once they realize what's available

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to them and that you can help them out, they're

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going to keep coming back, but they got to know

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what's there first. And so making those connections

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and kind of getting them in anything you can

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do to get them to do that, you know, Like I have

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to do some presentations at the beginning of

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the school year for like some of the technology

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stuff And so I'm gonna try and make it I'm gonna

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do some like breakout sessions with it where

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it's like where they we're gonna do like a breakout

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edu that I'm gonna make where they Learn some

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of the stuff that they need to know about the

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technology that we have on campus and that kind

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of stuff, but in a fun way so that I can be like,

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hey, did you enjoy that? We can, I can help you

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make one of those for your kids on whatever topic

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you're learning. And so like kind of showing

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them and exposing them to some of the things

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that we can, um, that we have access to and that

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I can help them with. If they come to me, I can,

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I'd be happy to help. And so kind of showing

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them some of those things. Um, you know, I think

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we're going to do a goose chase around the building

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and I'm going to help the, my, my administrators.

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Set up the goose chase which is just another

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fun like scavenger hunting kind of thing, but

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it's something that Would be a fun like icebreaker

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kind of thing for the students the first week

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of school yeah to get to know each other where

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you can set up like Find someone else in the

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classroom who's been out of state and stuff like

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you know just random stuff, but like That's something

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that my teachers. I don't know that many of them

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know how to do it, but if they don't know many

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do either Yeah, but I'd be happy to come and

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help. So if I can expose them to that and help

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my admin at the same time with some of that,

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you know, we're going to have, you know, at the

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beginning of the school year, we're going to

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end up doing icebreakers and this and that. If

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we can make it at least fun and entertaining

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in the same, at the same time. And then if I

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can also piggyback on that and be like, did you

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like that? I can help you make one for your class,

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like just to get them to come in. anything I

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can do to bring them into the library. So, building

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those relationships with the teachers is so important

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because if no one's coming into the library,

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you're not doing your job. And so, getting those

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relationships with the teachers is just as important

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as building the relationship with the students.

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And so, finding different ways to do that. It's

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absolutely it's it's definitely half the job

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is working with the teachers to the teachers

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are the ones with direct access to the kids all

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the time and They're the ones who really know

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the crew. I mean we know the curriculum too,

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but they're the ones teaching it so they're the

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ones that we really need to support and Yeah,

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it's it's critical to build those relationships.

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You're right In the past what I've done in the

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library was the thing that I've had the most

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success with, I guess, with getting more teachers

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to come into the library a lot is putting out

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a bowl of candy, which sounds so silly, but it's

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true. Like putting, I always put a bowl of candy

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or previously did in my other libraries. behind

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the circulation desk and the teachers all know

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where it is and they'll randomly come into the

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library when they're it's they usually come in

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when they're having a rough day or something

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because and they just need their little fix of

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chocolate but that always helps because they

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know that um they they just they know where to

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find that they know where to find me i feel like

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food is a really big way to get people to come

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to you in general. And like, it sounds like you

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do similar things with like you to bring donuts

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and queso and such during book fair week. But

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that always just got them into the library and

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because they had to like go in behind the circulation

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desk and like find it like they kind of had to

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walk around a little bit and kind of see what

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was in. So that kind of helped me get them in

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the door. And like you said that that was my

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chance to kind of remind them of what everything

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that I had to offer and because they also came

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in when they were having a rough day that it

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was usually when they were having some kind of

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trouble in the classroom or they needed help

00:23:08.450 --> 00:23:10.809
with the lesson. So then I could also talk to

00:23:10.809 --> 00:23:12.230
them and be like, Hey, what's up? Why do you

00:23:12.230 --> 00:23:14.769
need extra candy today? And they're like, well,

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I was having trouble with this. And that's, that

00:23:16.690 --> 00:23:18.630
was like kind of another opportunity to, for

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me to be like, well, I could help you in this

00:23:21.910 --> 00:23:24.109
way. If this is giving you a hard time, why don't

00:23:24.109 --> 00:23:26.109
you try this? And that was a lot of the time

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that did help with them, like building trust

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and building that relationship just in general.

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It really, really brought him in a lot. So that's

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what I found to be most helpful, which is kind

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of interesting. I did it accidentally one year

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where I just had too much Halloween candy at

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my house. So I just put it out in the library

00:23:45.940 --> 00:23:48.819
and I was like, whoa, I think I just tripled

00:23:48.819 --> 00:23:51.180
all of my circulation among teachers. That's

00:23:51.180 --> 00:23:55.200
amazing. Okay. We'll keep doing that. And bonus,

00:23:55.819 --> 00:23:57.539
your kids aren't eating all of their Halloween

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candy. So there you go. Uh huh. Yeah, it was

00:24:02.420 --> 00:24:06.619
win -win for everyone. It was great. Your kids

00:24:06.619 --> 00:24:08.460
might not see it that way, but everybody else

00:24:08.460 --> 00:24:14.599
saw it that way. They were fine. Yeah. Love that.

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That's excellent. Yeah. So yeah, food is definitely

00:24:17.779 --> 00:24:21.059
a motivator for so many ways to get people in.

00:24:21.259 --> 00:24:23.519
So yeah, anything you can do. Like there's so

00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.819
many great ways to get the teachers in the door.

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And I find that the sooner you get them in, the

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closer to the beginning of the year, the more

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likely they are to be coming back. Because if

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you can't get them in until the spring, you've

00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:40.660
already lost so much time. So the sooner you

00:24:40.660 --> 00:24:43.720
can do that and build those relationships, the

00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:46.980
better. That's true. Yeah. And I'll be starting

00:24:46.980 --> 00:24:48.980
at a new campus this year, so I don't know what

00:24:48.980 --> 00:24:52.799
I'll do. I'm sure I'll put out candy in six months

00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:54.900
or so. I probably won't start it right away,

00:24:54.980 --> 00:24:59.099
but I'm just gonna get to know everyone at first.

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that's it that's the other thing is if you're

00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:04.859
if you're at a new campus you you got to kind

00:25:04.859 --> 00:25:08.319
of feel the vibes you know vibe check everything

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and see see what's going on and see what needs

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to be done too because especially at a campus

00:25:14.819 --> 00:25:18.180
that it's not like a brand new campus it's just

00:25:18.180 --> 00:25:20.400
a campus that's already been going and you're

00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:25.519
stepping in if your predecessor has done a good

00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:28.369
job you'll already have people coming in, and

00:25:28.369 --> 00:25:30.329
so you just need to be able to maintain. That's

00:25:30.329 --> 00:25:33.150
true. I did not have people coming into the library

00:25:33.150 --> 00:25:37.750
when I started. Yeah. And so that's cool because

00:25:37.750 --> 00:25:40.230
then you've already... The previous librarian

00:25:40.230 --> 00:25:41.609
has already kind of set that up for you. You

00:25:41.609 --> 00:25:43.690
just need to maintain at that point and get the

00:25:43.690 --> 00:25:45.769
new people from the, like the new teachers on

00:25:45.769 --> 00:25:48.730
campus or whatever to get in. And so that also

00:25:48.730 --> 00:25:50.930
helps your, helps make your job a lot easier.

00:25:50.950 --> 00:25:52.809
But once you build those relationships, it's

00:25:52.809 --> 00:25:55.650
definitely there. And so if you, if you are fortunate

00:25:55.650 --> 00:25:59.049
to have someone who already did a lot of the

00:25:59.049 --> 00:26:04.509
leg work for you, even better. Yeah. Yeah. We'll

00:26:04.509 --> 00:26:06.930
see how this year goes. Yeah, it's going to be

00:26:06.930 --> 00:26:09.579
good. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great.

00:26:09.940 --> 00:26:16.059
I know. Okay, well the next book that we're gonna

00:26:16.059 --> 00:26:18.259
talk today that was on the two by two list this

00:26:18.259 --> 00:26:23.200
year is called Duck Goes Meow and it's published

00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:27.279
by Kane Miller, which is a division of EDC Publishing

00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.539
in 2023. But when I was looking up all the things

00:26:30.539 --> 00:26:32.460
for this book, it looks like it was actually

00:26:32.460 --> 00:26:36.640
originally published by Scholastic in New Zealand.

00:26:37.709 --> 00:26:40.210
So I think it was originally published in New

00:26:40.210 --> 00:26:43.089
Zealand and then this Publishers who brought

00:26:43.089 --> 00:26:46.890
it to America I assume I'm not sure how to say

00:26:46.890 --> 00:26:49.869
this author's last name. I'm gonna go with Juliet

00:26:49.869 --> 00:26:54.390
Maciver Maciver, what do you think? Maciver?

00:26:54.670 --> 00:26:57.789
I read it as Maciver, but I'm not sure. I like

00:26:57.789 --> 00:27:01.470
Maciver. Let's do that. Okay, and the illustrator

00:27:01.470 --> 00:27:08.480
is Carla Martel This is a CCBC choice book for

00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:13.700
2025 and it's on the Texas 2x2 list. Our author

00:27:13.700 --> 00:27:16.220
Juliet MacIver lives in New Zealand with her

00:27:16.220 --> 00:27:19.200
husband and her four children. She's a former

00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.720
English teacher and a yoga instructor and recently

00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:27.740
acquired a master of arts in linguistics. She's

00:27:27.740 --> 00:27:30.599
written quite a few books. She has over 25 picture

00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.619
books published and three middle grade novels.

00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.920
A few of her published works are That's not a

00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.420
hippopotamus, illustrated by Sarah Davis. The

00:27:41.420 --> 00:27:44.539
grizzled grist does not exist, illustrated by

00:27:44.539 --> 00:27:48.160
Sarah Davis. And how to be a cat, illustrated

00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:54.039
by Carla Martel. And the illustrator Carla Martel

00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.420
is a New Zealand designer and illustrator. Much

00:27:57.420 --> 00:28:00.960
of her work is produced first with pen and ink

00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:04.759
and is later manipulated digitally. In addition

00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:07.339
to illustrating picture books, Carla creates

00:28:07.339 --> 00:28:11.299
other designs for products such as wrapping paper

00:28:11.299 --> 00:28:15.599
and greeting cards. Some of her other books that

00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.140
she's she's illustrated nine of them. Some of

00:28:19.140 --> 00:28:24.279
them include Tulip and Dog by Emma Wood, Why

00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:28.279
Won't You Sleep by Adam Wallace, and Monster

00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:34.200
School Rules by Rory H. Mather. And for our summary

00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:37.220
today for this one a very confused duck begins

00:28:37.220 --> 00:28:41.079
the story by saying meow Loads of other animals

00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:43.779
in the story make their sounds appropriately

00:28:43.779 --> 00:28:46.940
and despite hearing how all of the other animals

00:28:46.940 --> 00:28:51.220
talk and Having the wise old yak tell the duck

00:28:51.220 --> 00:28:54.940
that ducks are supposed to say quack Duck continues

00:28:54.940 --> 00:28:58.710
to be confused and say meow The story ends with

00:28:58.710 --> 00:29:01.569
the other animals learning exactly why Duck is

00:29:01.569 --> 00:29:04.089
so confused as to what ducks are supposed to

00:29:04.089 --> 00:29:12.029
say. I really liked this book for pre -K and

00:29:12.029 --> 00:29:15.670
for toddler age. I loved that the illustrations

00:29:15.670 --> 00:29:19.930
are like it says in the description there. Like

00:29:19.930 --> 00:29:24.009
you could tell that it was done in ink and then

00:29:24.009 --> 00:29:27.000
later. manipulated digitally. It was a lot of

00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:31.680
very solid bright backgrounds like the page which

00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:35.720
it just has like a blue page with like a black

00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:40.019
and white cow on it. So I love that it was extremely

00:29:40.019 --> 00:29:44.600
simple illustrations with those solid Colored

00:29:44.600 --> 00:29:47.359
backgrounds that are really really great for

00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.059
toddlers Especially that kind of that contrast

00:29:50.059 --> 00:29:53.140
that we know our younger kids really need to

00:29:53.140 --> 00:29:56.000
see because their eyes are still developing It

00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:01.279
was just so it was so great for that So for toddlers,

00:30:01.539 --> 00:30:04.000
especially I would absolutely Highly recommend.

00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:06.480
I I don't know that it's published as a board

00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:08.960
book, but I feel like it should be but it was

00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:11.869
also little bit silly, so I think it's great

00:30:11.869 --> 00:30:16.470
for pre -k and kinder as well. Yeah, I think

00:30:16.470 --> 00:30:18.369
it was just an all -around really good book.

00:30:20.329 --> 00:30:22.789
It had some really good humor that our older

00:30:22.789 --> 00:30:25.730
kids, older being like four and five, are gonna

00:30:25.730 --> 00:30:28.190
like really enjoy with the duck saying meow all

00:30:28.190 --> 00:30:30.089
the time and everything and all the other animals

00:30:30.089 --> 00:30:34.329
trying to explain what ducks are actually supposed

00:30:34.329 --> 00:30:37.089
to say. It had some good rhyming words in it.

00:30:37.289 --> 00:30:39.789
I thought it was a really good Especially for

00:30:39.789 --> 00:30:42.710
younger kids a really good book this one I think

00:30:42.710 --> 00:30:46.130
was it was I think it's an okay for like a library

00:30:46.130 --> 00:30:49.190
read aloud for like pre -k or kinder It's a really

00:30:49.190 --> 00:30:51.950
fast one. It would definitely be over in like

00:30:51.950 --> 00:30:56.849
three minutes or less But I thought it's like

00:30:56.849 --> 00:30:59.750
this one is one that I would want if I had a

00:30:59.750 --> 00:31:02.450
toddler at home This one would be one that I

00:31:02.450 --> 00:31:05.150
would purchase for my home for sure if I was

00:31:05.150 --> 00:31:06.950
reading in that setting it would be a five out

00:31:06.950 --> 00:31:11.420
of five like Really solid perfect book for toddlers

00:31:11.420 --> 00:31:15.680
I think for pre -k or kinder in a library setting

00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:17.420
or in a classroom setting when you're doing a

00:31:17.420 --> 00:31:20.140
whole group read aloud Maybe a three and a half

00:31:20.140 --> 00:31:23.000
or a four out of five But the Texas two -by -two

00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:27.940
list is meant for ages two to I think eight up

00:31:27.940 --> 00:31:30.420
through second grade. I think is what it's meant

00:31:30.420 --> 00:31:34.900
to be so Like in that capacity. Yeah, it's a

00:31:34.900 --> 00:31:38.180
solid choice for that. So I don't know. I enjoyed

00:31:38.180 --> 00:31:41.500
it. It was a good one. Absolutely. Yeah, I like

00:31:41.500 --> 00:31:45.160
this story. I thought it was really cute. Since

00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.019
you have cats, this makes a lot more sense. I

00:31:48.019 --> 00:31:53.299
do have cats! So this choice, book choice, is

00:31:53.299 --> 00:31:56.900
well chosen. But I will also say one thing that

00:31:56.900 --> 00:31:58.799
kind of jumped into my mind, because it is a

00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:01.420
very cute little simple story, but it also kind

00:32:01.420 --> 00:32:03.720
of jumped into my mind. At the end of the story,

00:32:03.740 --> 00:32:06.279
we find out the reason that the duck is saying

00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:11.160
now is because it's being raised by a cat and

00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:16.339
so like for pre -k this might be a way to kind

00:32:16.339 --> 00:32:20.180
of like if because you never know what your students

00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:22.460
are going through but this could be a way like

00:32:22.460 --> 00:32:25.200
to have a discussion about like adoption or something

00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.740
also oh yeah a way to kind of segue into that

00:32:28.740 --> 00:32:33.109
because this duck is acting uncharacteristic

00:32:33.109 --> 00:32:36.210
by normal standards, but realistically it's acting

00:32:36.210 --> 00:32:39.690
very much like it should being raised the way

00:32:39.690 --> 00:32:42.690
it is. And so like it's being raised by a mother

00:32:42.690 --> 00:32:46.630
cat. And so like you could kind of use that as

00:32:46.630 --> 00:32:49.609
like a way to kind of broach the subject of adoption.

00:32:49.650 --> 00:32:53.250
Cause maybe we know that sometimes some of our

00:32:53.250 --> 00:32:55.390
students in pre -K settings are in foster homes

00:32:55.390 --> 00:32:56.950
and foster care and that kind of thing. And so

00:32:56.950 --> 00:33:00.009
adoption is not something that's completely uncommon.

00:33:01.099 --> 00:33:06.039
in that setting and so sometimes to help explain

00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.740
that situation you need to find some books and

00:33:08.740 --> 00:33:11.380
so this might be one this might maybe not the

00:33:11.380 --> 00:33:13.839
best one but it's not a bad one to kind of introduce

00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:17.680
the topic of it um yeah so using it for something

00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:19.920
like that would be another way that you could

00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.299
go about using it that just jumped into my head

00:33:22.299 --> 00:33:24.880
when um i read it at the end i enjoyed the end

00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:26.980
of it and so i was like oh that would be kind

00:33:26.980 --> 00:33:30.339
of a cool way to do that too so Very good book.

00:33:30.339 --> 00:33:32.940
I did enjoy it a lot. Yeah, I didn't even think

00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:34.539
about it in that capacity. I think you're right

00:33:34.539 --> 00:33:36.960
I think that would be a really good Introduction

00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:40.460
for younger kids for adoption. Love it. Good

00:33:40.460 --> 00:33:45.140
one And I think for a makerspace activity usually

00:33:45.140 --> 00:33:48.539
when I read a book like this that has a lot of

00:33:48.539 --> 00:33:53.000
animals my favorite thing to do is to have them

00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.779
is to throw out some of the farm animal manipulatives

00:33:55.779 --> 00:34:00.859
and just have a whole lot of blocks and then

00:34:00.859 --> 00:34:04.160
let them build structures and I mean really since

00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.259
the duck does belong to a cat family and it you

00:34:07.259 --> 00:34:09.500
could you know have them create their own little

00:34:09.500 --> 00:34:13.880
animal families that are a little bit less traditional

00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:18.179
and Yeah, and just have them go to town with

00:34:18.179 --> 00:34:22.219
all that Yeah, that would be a good idea there'd

00:34:22.219 --> 00:34:24.719
be a lot of fun for the kids too. Yeah, I think

00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:30.420
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