WEBVTT 00:00:20.650 --> 00:00:24.489 Hello, I'm Patrick Adams. And I'm Caroline Legere. 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:28.359 And this is Librarians of Littles, a podcast 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.980 where we share books, give makers space ideas, 00:00:32.500 --> 00:00:35.380 and give tips and tricks for working with our 00:00:35.380 --> 00:00:39.679 youngest learners in the library setting. This 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:42.560 week we will be sharing two books that come from 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:47.619 the Texas 2x2 list. The Texas 2x2 list is a list 00:00:47.619 --> 00:00:50.880 created by the Texas Library Association every 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.979 year that includes 20 books that are great reads 00:00:54.979 --> 00:00:58.920 for children between the ages of two and second 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:03.100 grade. The first book that we will be looking 00:01:03.100 --> 00:01:08.170 at today is called Into the Goblin Market. It 00:01:08.170 --> 00:01:12.329 is published by Penguin Random House in 2024. 00:01:12.969 --> 00:01:17.650 The author is Vicki Van Sickle and the illustrator 00:01:17.650 --> 00:01:24.569 is Jensine Ekwal. The lists that this book can 00:01:24.569 --> 00:01:28.689 be found on in Canada, the Saskatchewan Young 00:01:28.689 --> 00:01:33.230 Readers' Choice Shining Willow Award for 2025 00:01:33.230 --> 00:01:37.060 for grades K through three. for the District 00:01:37.060 --> 00:01:41.760 of Columbia Capital Choices List for 2025 for 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:47.280 ages 6 to 9, the Minnesota Comstock Book Award 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:52.540 List for 2025 grades 3 through 6, and the Texas 00:01:52.540 --> 00:01:59.739 2x2 List for 2025. And for our author history, 00:01:59.980 --> 00:02:03.180 Vicki Van Sickle grew up in Ontario and developed 00:02:03.180 --> 00:02:05.799 a love of reading. theater, and stories of all 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:08.919 kinds. She studied drama at Queen's University 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:12.199 and then moved to Vancouver to complete her master's 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:15.939 in children's literature at the University of 00:02:15.939 --> 00:02:18.699 British Columbia. She now lives in Toronto and 00:02:18.699 --> 00:02:21.460 continues to write. And some of her other books 00:02:21.460 --> 00:02:25.580 include The Winnowing, If I Had a Griffin, illustrated 00:02:25.580 --> 00:02:30.319 by Cale Atkinson, and On a Mouse, illustrated 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:34.039 by Anna Paroli. The Lightning Circle, illustrated 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:37.599 by Laura K. Watson, Teddy Bear of the Year, illustrated 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:42.219 by Sydney Hansen, Summer Days, Starry Nights, 00:02:43.099 --> 00:02:45.740 and How to Decorate a Christmas Tree, illustrated 00:02:45.740 --> 00:02:52.639 by Miki Sato. And our illustrator, Jensine Ekwall, 00:02:52.699 --> 00:02:55.180 is an American illustrator who currently lives 00:02:55.180 --> 00:02:58.159 in New York. She lists multiple book publishers 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.219 as clients, along with many print news outlets, 00:03:01.259 --> 00:03:04.240 including the New York Times and the Boston Globe. 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:09.919 And her other book that she's worked on is Almost 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:16.819 a Full Moon, written by Huxley Workman. And so 00:03:16.819 --> 00:03:20.240 the summary of this book, There are two sisters 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.539 that are very different. We have Mina that wants 00:03:23.539 --> 00:03:28.000 to explore and go on adventures while Millie 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:31.159 wishes to stay at home and enjoy what she has. 00:03:32.020 --> 00:03:34.719 The sister interested in exploring, Mina, decides 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.639 to attend the Goblin Market after being warned 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:41.860 not to go and her sister Millie must then go 00:03:41.860 --> 00:03:46.830 to the Goblin Market to find Millie. I'm sorry 00:03:46.830 --> 00:03:51.030 to find Mina. As Millie sees familiar villains 00:03:51.030 --> 00:03:53.550 from fairy tale stories, she gets away from each 00:03:53.550 --> 00:03:57.389 with clever distractions. And as she tries to 00:03:57.389 --> 00:04:00.650 leave after not finding her sister, she is forced 00:04:00.650 --> 00:04:04.090 to take something with her. And the villains 00:04:04.090 --> 00:04:07.990 and goblins believe this trap will keep her stuck 00:04:07.990 --> 00:04:13.069 there forever. But she chooses to take the menacing 00:04:13.069 --> 00:04:17.069 wolf home with her. ultimately tricking the goblins 00:04:17.069 --> 00:04:21.649 and when she gets home with this wolf she finds 00:04:21.649 --> 00:04:24.569 that it's actually her sister Mina transformed 00:04:24.569 --> 00:04:27.329 and when she's transformed back into a girl she 00:04:27.329 --> 00:04:31.050 has learned a valuable lesson from her adventure. 00:04:32.149 --> 00:04:36.490 So I thought this was a really interesting story. 00:04:36.509 --> 00:04:41.110 I thought it was a lot of fun and it was really 00:04:41.110 --> 00:04:45.699 cool to see some of the fairy tale villains that 00:04:45.699 --> 00:04:50.000 were kind of set into this story. But I would 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:52.660 say, in my personal opinion, this is probably 00:04:52.660 --> 00:04:55.879 a little bit too old for our young preschool 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:59.699 students. There's a lot of challenging vocabulary. 00:05:01.740 --> 00:05:07.420 The the plot is a little bit dark. And the illustrations, 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:11.769 while beautiful and amazing. are kind of monochromatic. 00:05:11.870 --> 00:05:13.410 They're black and white. They're very little 00:05:13.410 --> 00:05:18.610 color in them. They're beautiful and amazing, 00:05:18.689 --> 00:05:23.529 but maybe not the most engaging, colorful pictures. 00:05:23.990 --> 00:05:28.029 The story is told in verse, so there's some fun 00:05:28.029 --> 00:05:31.610 rhythm to it, but the vocabulary's at a little 00:05:31.610 --> 00:05:34.949 bit higher level. I think it's a great story, 00:05:34.949 --> 00:05:40.160 and I think for probably third... Great second 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.720 grade, maybe third grade fourth grade. This is 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:47.439 a great book I think for pre -k students. This 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.360 is a little bit above their level I think it'd 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.459 be kind of hard for them to stay engaged in it 00:05:54.459 --> 00:05:57.800 I think you'd have to introduce a lot of vocabulary 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:01.639 with it and I would bet that a lot of them probably 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:03.639 aren't as familiar with some of the villains 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:07.500 that are Put into the story as some of the older 00:06:07.500 --> 00:06:10.959 students, which makes it so that those references 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:14.959 are kind of lost on them. In the book, they do 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:20.319 include Snow White's wicked stepmother offering 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:24.519 apples, the Pied Piper with his pipe playing 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:28.120 entrancing music, and the wicked witch from Wizard 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:31.779 of Oz with her poppies. And so I think some of 00:06:31.779 --> 00:06:35.680 those references might go, will probably go over 00:06:35.930 --> 00:06:38.810 our pre -k students heads. So I think this book, 00:06:39.149 --> 00:06:42.629 while being a great book and like if I was saying 00:06:42.629 --> 00:06:45.470 just overall book, I'd definitely give it like 00:06:45.470 --> 00:06:49.629 a four out of five, but for being used with pre 00:06:49.629 --> 00:06:52.209 -k students, I'm gonna say it's probably closer 00:06:52.209 --> 00:06:57.269 to like a two out of five. I just think that 00:06:57.269 --> 00:07:01.720 it's a little bit too old for... the younger 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:04.860 students. I think, like I said, it's a great 00:07:04.860 --> 00:07:07.000 story, and I think it would be wonderful for 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:09.199 older students, but this is just not one that 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:14.600 I would use with Pre -K. Yeah, I agree completely. 00:07:14.740 --> 00:07:18.279 It's a really good book. I did read it a couple 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:20.839 of months ago, and I considered it for Pre -K, 00:07:20.860 --> 00:07:24.019 and I chose not to read it with my classes just 00:07:24.019 --> 00:07:26.379 because of pretty much of everything you listed. 00:07:26.540 --> 00:07:29.720 I think sometimes with um books like this while 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:33.420 the the pictures are lovely and kind of do um 00:07:33.420 --> 00:07:35.639 help move the story along for our younger students 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:40.199 i think some people um kind of uh forget what 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:42.420 content is actually developmentally appropriate 00:07:42.420 --> 00:07:45.000 for our younger learners and this while it's 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.860 not like inappropriate content per se there's 00:07:47.860 --> 00:07:50.860 nothing really wrong with it it's just a little 00:07:50.860 --> 00:07:54.959 bit too advanced and a little bit um Kids aren't 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:57.560 gonna it's not relatable because it's got so 00:07:57.560 --> 00:08:01.379 much. I mean a little bit with the sibling Relationship 00:08:01.379 --> 00:08:04.819 there, but as far as the rest of it goes, there's 00:08:04.819 --> 00:08:06.920 just so much background information they would 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:10.319 need For it to be a really fun and effective 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:15.300 Read aloud. I just yeah everything you said pretty 00:08:15.300 --> 00:08:17.839 much. It's just not quite there for pre -k and 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:20.420 that's okay It's a good book. I wouldn't I just 00:08:20.420 --> 00:08:21.839 wouldn't do it with younger than maybe second 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:25.870 grade Yeah, I agree and like I did a lot of research 00:08:25.870 --> 00:08:28.870 on this book and I found that it's Like kind 00:08:28.870 --> 00:08:33.250 of a response to an older poem by the same name 00:08:33.250 --> 00:08:37.070 and so like it's really cool literary Text kind 00:08:37.070 --> 00:08:39.370 of wise where like you can compare it to the 00:08:39.370 --> 00:08:41.350 original poem You can do a lot of stuff with 00:08:41.350 --> 00:08:44.529 even and that sounds like a really fun lesson 00:08:44.529 --> 00:08:46.990 with older kids with older kids It'd be really 00:08:46.990 --> 00:08:49.970 cool to do that. But like yeah for pre -k wise 00:08:49.970 --> 00:08:53.049 this just I just it's not It's not there for 00:08:53.049 --> 00:08:55.169 pre -k, which is fine. Not every book is meant 00:08:55.169 --> 00:08:59.049 for every age group. This one is just their target 00:08:59.049 --> 00:09:00.929 audience for it is just clearly a little bit 00:09:00.929 --> 00:09:04.129 older. Um, and that's, that's totally reasonable. 00:09:04.429 --> 00:09:09.210 I, I like the book and personally, it's one that 00:09:09.210 --> 00:09:13.210 I enjoyed reading a lot. It, it's got that kind 00:09:13.210 --> 00:09:17.250 of like darker mood set and like, I could totally 00:09:17.250 --> 00:09:19.690 see this being a fun book to read with older 00:09:19.690 --> 00:09:22.970 kids around like Halloween time. when you're 00:09:22.970 --> 00:09:24.870 trying to do like those spooky stories, it'd 00:09:24.870 --> 00:09:28.149 be really cool then. Just not for the younger 00:09:28.149 --> 00:09:32.289 kids. So yeah, it's just like, like I said, it's 00:09:32.289 --> 00:09:35.230 just not the target audience is not the younger 00:09:35.230 --> 00:09:38.090 kids for this one. Yep. And that's okay. Yeah. 00:09:38.610 --> 00:09:43.610 Now, if I were to do it with younger kids, kind 00:09:43.610 --> 00:09:46.730 of connecting that makerspace activity to that 00:09:46.730 --> 00:09:49.210 would be kind of challenging. But I think maybe 00:09:49.210 --> 00:09:53.039 having the kids giving them some different materials 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:57.120 and having them kind of build a magical object 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:01.000 that they saw in the book that they that they 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:05.659 were interested in because like the The Wicked 00:10:05.659 --> 00:10:08.620 Stepmother Offering out apples the kids could 00:10:08.620 --> 00:10:13.179 build an apple or the Pied Piper making Music 00:10:13.179 --> 00:10:17.470 with his pipe or even the Wicked Witch offering 00:10:17.470 --> 00:10:18.970 out the poppies. So there's lots of different 00:10:18.970 --> 00:10:23.590 magical objects in the story. So like having 00:10:23.590 --> 00:10:25.370 the kids kind of pick one of those and being 00:10:25.370 --> 00:10:28.549 able to build their own magical object maybe 00:10:28.549 --> 00:10:31.230 out of building blocks or Legos, something like 00:10:31.230 --> 00:10:35.470 that might be a fun activity to connect to it. 00:10:36.389 --> 00:10:41.370 But again, I probably just wouldn't do this particular 00:10:41.370 --> 00:10:45.799 book for Pre -K itself. But I could see, I could 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:50.759 see a lot of kids in like second or third grade 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:53.460 having a lot of fun kind of making one of those 00:10:53.460 --> 00:10:57.399 magical objects out of Legos or out of building 00:10:57.399 --> 00:11:00.419 blocks or something like that, magnet tile, something. 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.179 So I could see it being a lot of fun to do that. 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:09.399 Just, just not pretty good. Agreed. So this week 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:13.549 for our library of littles management tip. to 00:11:13.549 --> 00:11:15.889 kind of go along with that last book, we're going 00:11:15.889 --> 00:11:18.409 to talk a little bit about reflection after a 00:11:18.409 --> 00:11:21.230 lesson. Sometimes our lessons we've got the best 00:11:21.230 --> 00:11:24.870 plans, we know exactly what we want to have happen, 00:11:25.309 --> 00:11:28.629 and sometimes they work perfectly and then other 00:11:28.629 --> 00:11:31.750 times they fall flat. And so having some time 00:11:31.750 --> 00:11:36.889 after a lesson, excuse me, to reflect is very 00:11:36.889 --> 00:11:41.009 important because not every lesson goes exactly 00:11:41.009 --> 00:11:47.230 how we plan. and so when I do my lessons I try 00:11:47.230 --> 00:11:50.850 to take some time at the end of the day to go 00:11:50.850 --> 00:11:53.529 back and think about all the different things 00:11:53.529 --> 00:11:58.330 that I like kind of what my goal for the lesson 00:11:58.330 --> 00:12:03.610 was how well I was able to execute the lesson 00:12:03.610 --> 00:12:08.169 I think about any of the possible distractions 00:12:08.169 --> 00:12:12.659 that were in the room or like if the schedule 00:12:12.659 --> 00:12:15.279 shifted, kind of consider all of those things. 00:12:15.620 --> 00:12:19.759 And I like to think about where I can improve 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:22.580 the lesson, whether the lesson was worth improving 00:12:22.580 --> 00:12:24.440 in the first place, honestly, because sometimes 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:26.259 those lessons you do it and you're just like, 00:12:26.259 --> 00:12:32.779 you know what, that was a disaster. It wasn't 00:12:32.779 --> 00:12:37.750 just because of the outside. It things that impacted 00:12:37.750 --> 00:12:39.809 the lesson. It just wasn't the best lesson. It 00:12:39.809 --> 00:12:42.029 just didn't work I don't ever want to do that 00:12:42.029 --> 00:12:45.389 one again, or maybe you're like that worked well, 00:12:45.389 --> 00:12:50.830 but There I could change how I do this and maybe 00:12:50.830 --> 00:12:56.250 do a different activity with it or Give better 00:12:56.250 --> 00:12:59.190 instructions for the transition times, you know 00:12:59.190 --> 00:13:01.909 just taking that time and it doesn't have to 00:13:01.909 --> 00:13:05.340 be a long time I try to take I'm fortunate that 00:13:05.340 --> 00:13:08.399 the way my schedule works, my last class of the 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:13.700 day and dismissal has there's about 15 minutes 00:13:13.700 --> 00:13:16.340 in between the two. And so I can kind of just 00:13:16.340 --> 00:13:19.980 take that time to go back and look at how the 00:13:19.980 --> 00:13:23.379 lesson worked and kind of think about. what I 00:13:23.379 --> 00:13:25.639 might want to change for the next day and the 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:27.860 good thing for me is that I do see two classes 00:13:27.860 --> 00:13:30.320 I have two pre -k classes on my campus so I see 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:32.700 one class and then I see the next class the next 00:13:32.700 --> 00:13:35.659 day so especially that first day taking that 00:13:35.659 --> 00:13:38.600 time to reflect I can usually improve for the 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:40.779 second group which kind of stinks for that first 00:13:40.779 --> 00:13:44.039 group because they're my they're my test subjects 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:48.620 for the week but you know it's not that they're 00:13:48.620 --> 00:13:52.299 getting a a lesser lesson. It's just that I can 00:13:52.299 --> 00:13:56.080 always improve. And so we all can. Yeah. Yeah. 00:13:56.179 --> 00:14:00.600 And so kind of taking that time to reflect and 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:04.179 consider where what things worked, what things 00:14:04.179 --> 00:14:07.159 need tweaking, whether it's just worth scrapping 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.919 and starting fresh the next day, because there 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:11.779 are some lessons where that's just the case where 00:14:11.779 --> 00:14:14.340 you're just like, Nope, I missed the mark on 00:14:14.340 --> 00:14:17.929 this. You know, like there there's some days 00:14:17.929 --> 00:14:20.529 where I'm like, wow, that was a terrible lesson 00:14:20.529 --> 00:14:24.309 that did not work at all I Need to pick a new 00:14:24.309 --> 00:14:26.889 book pick a new activity pick everything start 00:14:26.889 --> 00:14:30.110 fresh the next day It happens, you know, hey 00:14:30.110 --> 00:14:34.769 it happens to the best of us. So um Taking that 00:14:34.769 --> 00:14:41.289 time which in our incredibly busy schedules Sometimes 00:14:41.289 --> 00:14:44.009 that's the first thing to go is that time where 00:14:44.009 --> 00:14:49.100 we? sit and reflect. But it's, it's so valuable 00:14:49.100 --> 00:14:53.340 to take the time to slow down and think about 00:14:53.340 --> 00:14:55.879 it to decide whether it's worth doing again, 00:14:56.179 --> 00:14:57.759 and whether it's one of those lessons that you 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:01.679 want to bring back the next year, you know, there 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:04.559 are quite a few of my lessons that I do every 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:06.960 year, because they're really good lessons that 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:10.080 fit well with our pre K students, my pre K students. 00:15:10.269 --> 00:15:12.429 are only in pre -k one year so every year I have 00:15:12.429 --> 00:15:16.850 a new group so I can reuse those lessons but 00:15:16.850 --> 00:15:21.929 even those lessons as the years go on there's 00:15:21.929 --> 00:15:23.269 sometimes where I just have to be like you know 00:15:23.269 --> 00:15:25.629 what this isn't working the same it's not working 00:15:25.629 --> 00:15:28.809 as well I need to pick a newer more up -to -date 00:15:28.809 --> 00:15:33.970 book and like new activities and stuff so just 00:15:33.970 --> 00:15:37.710 taking that time to reflect it's hard to stop 00:15:37.710 --> 00:15:43.480 and sit down to do it. But it's so beneficial 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:47.500 to consider so that you're not because I mean, 00:15:48.220 --> 00:15:52.559 I mean, it's supposedly the definition and the 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:54.639 definition of insanity is doing the same thing 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:57.159 and expecting different results, right? Like, 00:15:57.220 --> 00:16:01.039 if it didn't work the first day, why would you 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:03.929 do it again the next day? Right? Like take the 00:16:03.929 --> 00:16:06.649 time to reflect and say, like, where can I make 00:16:06.649 --> 00:16:09.929 this better? What can I do to make it worth doing? 00:16:10.389 --> 00:16:13.429 Or let's start fresh and start with something 00:16:13.429 --> 00:16:17.070 different, you know? Yeah. It's important. I 00:16:17.070 --> 00:16:19.919 agree. And there's times with me where I'm If 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:22.379 I have a book that I'm like on the fence about 00:16:22.379 --> 00:16:24.820 that, like maybe it's like brand new or something 00:16:24.820 --> 00:16:26.919 and I haven't read it before and I'm not really 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.779 sure how it's going to go. There have been times 00:16:29.779 --> 00:16:31.720 where I'm like, since I'm on the fence anyway, 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:34.899 like I'll pull up the second book and I'll have 00:16:34.899 --> 00:16:39.240 my backup right there just in case. So if I do 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:42.879 have to abandon ship and scrap the first one, 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:46.080 it's a real quick and easy transition to say, 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:48.480 you know what? It's been a couple minutes and 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:51.379 we're, we're trying this one and we are just 00:16:51.379 --> 00:16:54.100 not engaging at all. And I can just tell that 00:16:54.100 --> 00:16:55.620 it's just not going to happen with that one. 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.600 I'll just fall back on an old favorite so that 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.399 we can kind of keep things moving along, but 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:04.759 we can still get that student engagement in because 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:06.859 sometimes you just don't know how it's going 00:17:06.859 --> 00:17:10.579 to go. So, you know, and that's it. Like there 00:17:10.579 --> 00:17:14.059 are so many factors when trying to present a 00:17:14.059 --> 00:17:16.890 lesson that could throw. the whole thing off. 00:17:17.250 --> 00:17:19.869 Like I said, it could just be that the book just 00:17:19.869 --> 00:17:23.069 doesn't hit the same with eat with that particular 00:17:23.069 --> 00:17:25.710 group of kids. It could be that you had a fire 00:17:25.710 --> 00:17:28.690 drill that day, which threw everybody's schedule 00:17:28.690 --> 00:17:32.529 off. Or, you know, there's one kid that just 00:17:32.529 --> 00:17:36.289 came in having a rough day. And that just has 00:17:36.289 --> 00:17:39.069 set everybody else in the room off for the day. 00:17:39.289 --> 00:17:42.690 There are so many outside factors that could 00:17:42.690 --> 00:17:47.420 change. How a lesson hits and so taking the time 00:17:47.420 --> 00:17:50.619 to kind of consider and reflect and decide whether 00:17:50.619 --> 00:17:54.240 Whether what you can't adjust and whether it's 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:58.059 worth continuing It's just kind of an important 00:17:58.059 --> 00:18:03.839 thing You know, yeah Yeah, yeah, it's true it's 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:06.299 a good reminder for all of us just be flexible 00:18:06.299 --> 00:18:09.819 and You know do that self -reflection there. 00:18:10.099 --> 00:18:15.109 Yeah All right, well, the next book we're going 00:18:15.109 --> 00:18:18.069 to talk about today, also from the two by two 00:18:18.069 --> 00:18:22.190 list, is called Pickle Words, Crunchy Punchy 00:18:22.190 --> 00:18:25.549 Pickles in Poetry. It's published by Charles 00:18:25.549 --> 00:18:30.710 Bridge in 2024. The author is April Pulley Sayer. 00:18:31.069 --> 00:18:35.130 And the illustrator, I do not know how to say 00:18:35.130 --> 00:18:41.170 her name. She's Chinese. It's I'm gonna go with 00:18:41.170 --> 00:18:47.220 J. Jaylee? Sun? We'll go with that. Jaylee? I 00:18:47.220 --> 00:18:51.259 don't. Okay. It's a solid attempt. I'm sorry 00:18:51.259 --> 00:18:55.000 to her. Okay, but she did some beautiful illustrations 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:57.940 in this book. I love them. So there's that. All 00:18:57.940 --> 00:19:00.559 right. This book has won a couple of awards on 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:04.230 the Texas two by two. It's on the District of 00:19:04.230 --> 00:19:07.430 Columbia Capital Choice Book for ages birth to 00:19:07.430 --> 00:19:11.509 five, and it's a junior Library Guild selection. 00:19:13.289 --> 00:19:16.869 For our author history, April Polisseur was born 00:19:16.869 --> 00:19:20.230 in 1966. She was named April because she was 00:19:20.230 --> 00:19:23.519 born in the month of April. She was an award 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:25.839 winning children's book author and wrote over 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:29.619 65 books and photo illustrated 10 of them herself. 00:19:29.859 --> 00:19:32.259 She was best known for writing nonfiction books 00:19:32.259 --> 00:19:36.000 mostly to do with science concepts. She passed 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:39.420 away in 2021 from metastatic breast cancer at 00:19:39.420 --> 00:19:45.980 age 55. Yeah, so for other books are she wrote 00:19:45.980 --> 00:19:49.650 and photo illustrated full of fall. Best in Snow 00:19:49.650 --> 00:19:53.549 and Raindrops Roll and she also won a Geisel 00:19:53.549 --> 00:19:56.390 honor for Vulture View which was illustrated 00:19:56.390 --> 00:20:03.990 by Steve Jenkins. Okay and our illustrator we're 00:20:03.990 --> 00:20:08.470 gonna go with Jaylee Sun. Okay. Received her 00:20:08.470 --> 00:20:12.789 bachelor's degree in oil painting and graphic 00:20:12.789 --> 00:20:20.180 design from University in China, and her MFA 00:20:20.180 --> 00:20:23.880 in illustration practice from the Maryland Institute 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:27.220 College of Art. She currently lives in Baltimore 00:20:27.220 --> 00:20:31.859 and is now an illustrator and children's product 00:20:31.859 --> 00:20:37.660 developer. And her other book would be Humpback 00:20:37.660 --> 00:20:41.099 Whale, which is part of the Young Zoologist series, 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:46.779 written by Asha DeVox. All right, now this book 00:20:46.779 --> 00:20:50.079 is really just a whole lot of simple poems that 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:54.119 are all dedicated to Pickles. Most of the poems 00:20:54.119 --> 00:20:59.220 are written in a simple A, B, A, B kind of a 00:20:59.220 --> 00:21:02.119 format. So I really like it for younger kids 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:07.420 a lot in that it's kind of the... Poems are simple, 00:21:07.460 --> 00:21:09.660 but I think that's what makes it perfect for 00:21:09.660 --> 00:21:13.220 our younger students. You know, there's obviously 00:21:13.220 --> 00:21:16.400 a lot of different kinds of poetry and lots of 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:18.039 different ways that you can go about writing 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:20.859 poetry. But this one was like, I thought this 00:21:20.859 --> 00:21:24.420 was a real good, solid introduction to poetry. 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:28.359 It was kind of that simple, predictable cadence. 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:32.700 Really made it easy, I thought, to talk to kids 00:21:32.700 --> 00:21:36.900 about it to kind of introduce that concept. pictures 00:21:36.900 --> 00:21:40.279 are really bright, very vivid. Obviously there's 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:42.519 a lot of greens in there since it's all dedicated 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:46.900 to pickles. But I just love that it was all kind 00:21:46.900 --> 00:21:49.099 of a, since it was all about pickles, it was 00:21:49.099 --> 00:21:54.079 also kind of different, but the same, if that 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:58.019 makes sense, as far as like kids, they all know 00:21:58.019 --> 00:22:00.599 what a pickle is. They've seen a pickle, I hope, 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:03.500 by the time they're in pre -K. That's kind of 00:22:03.500 --> 00:22:10.509 a common object. and they're all um it was all 00:22:10.509 --> 00:22:14.490 kind of since it was oh my gosh i'm just fumbling 00:22:14.490 --> 00:22:18.269 here i'm sorry but yeah i just loved um all the 00:22:18.269 --> 00:22:22.049 poems were just really great and i loved at the 00:22:22.049 --> 00:22:25.470 end where it had recipes for pickles and it kind 00:22:25.470 --> 00:22:27.789 of talked to you about how you can make pickles 00:22:27.789 --> 00:22:31.069 at home which would be a really great way if 00:22:31.069 --> 00:22:33.670 if we could do that in the library That would 00:22:33.670 --> 00:22:36.369 be kind of amazing if you could, I guess you 00:22:36.369 --> 00:22:38.410 technically could make pickles in the library. 00:22:38.470 --> 00:22:42.769 I'm not going to personally, but you could if 00:22:42.769 --> 00:22:45.410 you really wanted to use some of the recipes 00:22:45.410 --> 00:22:47.809 at the end of it since there's no real cooking 00:22:47.809 --> 00:22:51.170 involved or anything in there. But yeah, I just 00:22:51.170 --> 00:22:54.970 really enjoyed this one. I would say probably 00:22:54.970 --> 00:23:00.789 a well for a nonfiction poetry book for for pre 00:23:00.789 --> 00:23:03.420 -k. I might actually give it a five out of five. 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:06.160 I don't know how often I would want to do nonfiction 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:11.700 poetry with pre -k. But that's it was a really 00:23:11.700 --> 00:23:15.000 good, solid book. I really enjoyed it a whole 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.619 lot. Yeah, I thought this was such a cool book. 00:23:18.660 --> 00:23:22.759 I loved it. It's, like you said, it's just fun. 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:27.160 And it's very unique for a nonfiction book to 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:32.690 be actually nonfiction poetry. for such a young 00:23:32.690 --> 00:23:36.849 audience is just really cool. Makes it very unique 00:23:36.849 --> 00:23:41.170 and special. And I truly think that students 00:23:41.170 --> 00:23:44.069 will be very engaged and be able to definitely 00:23:44.069 --> 00:23:48.130 make a lot of connections because Pickles, like 00:23:48.130 --> 00:23:50.769 you said, they're just so prevalent. And that's 00:23:50.769 --> 00:23:53.369 something that most students have experience 00:23:53.369 --> 00:23:56.589 with. Whether they enjoy Pickles or not, they've 00:23:56.589 --> 00:24:01.329 tried them by that point. Most kids have. And 00:24:01.329 --> 00:24:04.349 just, it's just something that's relatable. And 00:24:04.349 --> 00:24:08.490 I think just really special because it is kind 00:24:08.490 --> 00:24:10.490 of aimed at such a younger audience. It's pretty 00:24:10.490 --> 00:24:14.670 cool. Yeah. Yeah. And like, as far as like poetry 00:24:14.670 --> 00:24:17.549 goes with kids, like the younger ones, especially 00:24:17.549 --> 00:24:20.710 like rhyming books in general, or a dime a dozen, 00:24:20.890 --> 00:24:23.009 but because most of them are going to tell a 00:24:23.009 --> 00:24:24.730 story, I think the kids are going to focus a 00:24:24.730 --> 00:24:27.390 lot on the story with this one, like they're 00:24:27.390 --> 00:24:29.410 straight up poems. So it's just a little bit 00:24:29.410 --> 00:24:33.170 easier to kind of teach kids the concept of writing 00:24:33.170 --> 00:24:37.470 a poem. So you could do lots of really fun rhyming 00:24:37.470 --> 00:24:43.069 things with it, obviously. But yeah, just great 00:24:43.069 --> 00:24:46.329 introduction to poetry. For a makerspace activity 00:24:46.329 --> 00:24:50.269 with this one. I was thinking if I was going 00:24:50.269 --> 00:24:52.950 to use it in my library I would just keep it 00:24:52.950 --> 00:24:55.829 simple and just have kids Draw a picture of their 00:24:55.829 --> 00:24:58.789 favorite food since most of our kids and pre 00:24:58.789 --> 00:25:03.609 -k aren't writing independently just yet Yeah, 00:25:03.609 --> 00:25:06.170 I think I would just keep it a draw picture of 00:25:06.170 --> 00:25:08.609 whatever they like best We've talked about how 00:25:08.609 --> 00:25:11.410 obviously the author's favorite food was probably 00:25:11.410 --> 00:25:17.109 pickles And this was her Showing us all how much 00:25:17.109 --> 00:25:18.990 she loves pickles and then the kids could draw 00:25:18.990 --> 00:25:21.569 their own favorite food They could draw whatever 00:25:21.569 --> 00:25:24.190 food makes them the happiest whatever they enjoy 00:25:24.190 --> 00:25:27.029 the most and then with older kids obviously they 00:25:27.029 --> 00:25:29.150 could just they could write their own poetry 00:25:29.150 --> 00:25:32.589 about Whatever food that they loved whenever 00:25:32.589 --> 00:25:35.650 they're developmentally ready for that one So 00:25:35.650 --> 00:25:42.910 yeah, I Love that. 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