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Hello, I'm Patrick Adams. And I'm Caroline Legere.

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And this is Librarians of Littles, a podcast

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where we discuss books, give makerspace activities,

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and give some tips and tricks for working with

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our youngest learners in the library setting.

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This week we are going to be sharing two books

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that come from the Texas 2x2 Awards List. So

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the Texas 2x2 Awards List is a list created by

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the Texas Library Association every year. It

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is a list of 20 books that are perfect for children

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between the ages of two and second grade. And

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so this week we're going to be discussing two

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books from that list. The first book is called

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We Are Definitely Human. This book was published

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by Penguin Random House in 2024 and the author

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is ex -fang. This book is on quite a few lists.

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It is on the Ezra Jack Keats Illustrator Award

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list for 2025. The Libby Books Award Picture

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Book Finalist for 2025 The Charlotte Zolotow

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Award Commended for 2025 CCBC Selection 2025

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Junior Library Guild Selection Read Aloud Selection

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2025 ALSC Notable Children's Book Commended 2025

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And the Publisher Weekly's Best Picture Book

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Selection 2024 Our author, X -Fang, was born

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in Taiwan and grew up in Atlanta, Georgia. She

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moved around between Philadelphia and Brooklyn

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before settling down with her family in Maine.

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And there honestly wasn't a ton of information

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about her on her website. That's about all the

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information that they give. On the Penguin Random

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House website, they did say that she also sometimes

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goes by Samantha. I just thought it was interesting

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that to go from Taiwan to Atlanta, Georgia, I

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would bet that that's a culture shock in itself.

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Oh, absolutely. So that was just interesting

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to me. And then to go from Atlanta, Georgia to

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Philadelphia and Brooklyn is its own change also.

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It's just kind of interesting. The author's other

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books, this is actually her third book. She's

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got two others, Broken and Dim Sum Palace. And

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so the summary for this book. When some odd visitors

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arrive at Mr. Lee's farm with a broken car, Mr.

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Lee does what nice humans do. He helps them.

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He allows them to sleep in their home, in his

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home. He takes them to the store. for the materials

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to fix their ride and he helps them meet other

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kind humans and I thought this was such an amazing

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story. I love the message behind this story of

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just be kind. Clearly throughout the story Mr.

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Lee is not convinced that these visitors are

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human even though they insist that they definitely

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are human. Their odd behaviors and interactions

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are comical But he continues even though he doesn't

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think they're human to be kind and help and offer

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what he can to assist them and as They go into

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town to the store and they meet other humans

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those humans choose to help and be kind and like

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the entire community comes together to help them

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fix their vehicle and they dance and they share

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food and it's just such a sweet and wholesome

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story. The illustrations are amazing. I love

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the character designs of the definitely human

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characters. And it's just such a sweet story

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with an amazing message, you know, just Above

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all else just be kind and it's just That's the

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kind of message that we need right now and need

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to remind people of right now so much in our

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society so It just it brought such a smile to

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my face reading this story. I think that students

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Will definitely be able to relate to the story

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and find it funny the like I said the the story

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itself is it wonderfully engaging but the illustrations

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are fantastic uh i and it's just it's just a

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wonderful all -around story i say five out of

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five bookmarks absolutely yeah it's it's just

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perfect it's so wonderful and it just it just

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made me feel so good reading the story Yeah,

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I really liked this one. This was the first time

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I got to read this book and it was very sweet

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It was very clever and it was just it. I loved

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it. It was the author did an excellent job of

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helping you connect with those characters and

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really care about everybody and Like you said

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it had a wonderful message of just always be

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kind It's okay if somebody's a little bit different.

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Just be kind. It's okay if they you know want

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to go do this or whatever just be kind that's

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all you got to do it's not that hard we can do

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hard we can do that we can be kind because that's

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that's what decent people do it was very sweet

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i left it a lot yes it like this is another banger

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from the texas two by two list it's just so wonderful

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and with i and i have to be honest like i read

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this and now i want to go and read the author's

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other two books because I'm like if this is what

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they can do as an author and Illustrator to to

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portray such a wonderful story. I want to go

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and read the other two To see to see what else

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they've done with these books. And so I yes,

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I just Just wonderful. So I love it. It was really

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good. Yeah as far as a makerspace activity Go

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in simple actually honestly one thing that I

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would love to do with this is challenge the the

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students To see how many acts of kindness they

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could do Between the time they leave the library

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to the time they get back to the library the

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following week and just kind of have them like

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have and talk to the teacher about it so that

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they can like Keep track like do just like a

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tally chart or something where they can Find

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out how many acts of kindness they can do in

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a week's time because I think that would be really

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nice to go along with this activity With this

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book is just to kind of like keep track of how

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many kind things can you do as a class? In just

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a week and just see what they can come up with

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but for like an actual activity in the library

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for To relate to this book go simple with it

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give some kind of building materials legos blocks

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Whatever and have the students build their own

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spaceships for the definitely human characters.

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Since clearly, they are not actually from Europe,

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like it mentions in the book, as they fly off

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in their vehicle, have the kids build their own

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spaceships, it would be kind of cool to see what

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the students get to what they come up with and

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how they can be creative about making those things.

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And so just giving them that opportunity to be

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creative and and make something cool like a spaceship.

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Yeah, love it. That would be a lot of fun for

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them. That was a good one. All right. Well, today

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for our Library of Littles management tip, we

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are going to talk about bookmarks, kind of. So

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for the last couple of years with my pre -K classes,

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the way we did our specials rotation is the kids

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would come to library and then for about 30 minutes

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and then they would go straight to P .E. So the

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kids didn't get to when they came to library

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and they would check out books they didn't get

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to go straight back to their classrooms to drop

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off said books which made it really challenging

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especially for our pre -k kids which is obviously

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all I had because none of them maybe not none

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of them but very few of them could remember with

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accurately which books they checked out themselves

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so when they checked out books it created a big

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problem of like where like where do we put them

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they're not going back to their classroom because

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their teacher still has their planning time going

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on so I have to leave this pile over here for

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the to drop off with the teacher later but we

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don't know which book goes with which kid so

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what I did was we created bookmarks for each

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student. And the way I did it was I asked the

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paraprofessional to we cut out, I cut out for

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them just strips of construction paper. And I

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just made it, you could color coordinate it by

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like each class. I've done it that way. I did

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it just like random for each. where it was just

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very colorful. So the kids got to pick their

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colors or whatever works best for you is what

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you could do. Personally, I liked it where I

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had like one color for each class. So it was

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a little bit more identifiable, which bookmark

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went with each. What went with each teacher,

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but I had the para bright with black Sharpie

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at the top of it, the students name. and we laminated

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it and when they were checking out books I would

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just slide that student's bookmark inside the

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book so that it was kind of labeled for them.

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So then at the end of book checkout I had this

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you know the stack of 20 books and each one of

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them has the bookmark in it with the child's

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name on it so that when I dropped it off this

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teacher knows which one goes in which backpack.

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And when they were putting it in they could just

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pull out the bookmark and hand it back to me

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later like later that day so then I just kept

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track of the bookmarks and that really Works

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really well for me to and the teachers So that

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that we knew which book went with each student

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and nothing ever got lost I don't think we ever

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had any mix -ups with it or anything I did have

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the paras create those for me as we got new students

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because we did have a highly transient population

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lots of new students frequently and then lots

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of kids would you know go to work from other

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countries so they would be gone for like a month

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at a time randomly to go visit their native countries

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but you could also do it with if you didn't have

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a para doing that you could also just have the

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students write their own names on it because

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that's that's one of the things that they're

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meant to be learning anyway is writing their

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own names so you could like that could be one

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of your first lessons of the year is Making your

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own bookmarks and just cut out those strips for

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them the construction paper strips that are you

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know shaped like bookmarks and you could Ask

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the kids to write like give them all a black

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marker So that they can write their name on there

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and like obviously they're learning how to do

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that. So they would need help a little bit with

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that, but you've got to do a lesson anyway. I

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would just turn it into a whole lesson. And then

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they could color with crayon and decorate it

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however they want to. And then you just laminate

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it and then you have your bookmarks ready to

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go after that. And that's a fun kind of way to

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have the kids take ownership of that. They would

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probably identify their own bookmarks a little

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bit better after that, too, if they decorated

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themselves. And it's still a pretty easy way

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to. Kind of keep track of something like that.

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So that's clearly labeled for when you have to

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check out books if your students don't go straight

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back to the classroom or And they can't put it

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away right away It really helped me a lot and

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I like my teachers I got really good feedback

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from it for my teachers too because it was pretty

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easy for them to keep track of as well I love

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that idea. That sounds like a great way for you

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to be able to keep track of the books and you

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know get to know the kids' names a little bit

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better and just kind of, yeah, I love the whole

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idea. Wonderful. Thanks. Alrighty, well the next

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Texas 2x2 book that we're going to talk about

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today is called The Spice Box. It's published

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by Alfred A. Knopf Books in 2024. The author

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is Meera Sriram and the illustrator is Sandhya

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Prabhat. This book is on the Texas 2x2 list for

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2025. And it is an Asian Pacific American Librarians

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Association best of the best book list selection

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for 2024. That was a long title, but I got through

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it. That was great. Good job. Thank you. And

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for our author history, Meera Sriram was born

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in South India. She originally got a master's

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degree in electrical engineering with no intention

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of ever being a children's author. However, after

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moving to America and becoming a mother herself,

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she saw that there was a significant lack of

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books reflecting her own children's life experiences

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and culture. She then became a children's writer

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specializing in diverse books for kids. She currently

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lives in Berkeley, California with her family.

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And some of her other books include A Garden

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in My Hands, illustrated by Sandhya Prabhat,

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Our World India, illustrated by Neethi, Dumpling

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Day, illustrated by Ines de Antuanano. I'm not

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sure I butchered that, but... I tried. You did?

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Between two worlds. Between two worlds, the art

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and life of Amrita Ishrigul, a gift for Amma,

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market day in India, illustrated by Mariana Kabasa,

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and wrote and illustrated the yellow suitcase.

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Oh, she wrote and illustrated the yellow suitcase,

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my bad. All right, our illustrator is Sandhya

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Prabhat and she's originally from Chennai, India.

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She currently lives in the Bay Area in California.

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She is both an animator and an illustrator, and

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she holds an MFA degree in Animation and Digital

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Arts from NYU Tisch School of the Arts, Asia.

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And she has a bachelor's degree in Literature

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from Stella Maris College. And her website currently

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lists a total of 27 books that she has illustrated,

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including the Spice Box. Other books that she

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has illustrated include I Am Brown, written by

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Ashok Banker, A Garden in My Hands, written by

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Meera Sriram, Large As Life, written by Johnny

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Marks. Ani's Light written by Tanu Sri Singh

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and Namaste is a greeting written by Suma Subramaniam.

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Well done. All right for our book summary. When

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Rishi's Patti, grandmother, comes to visit from

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India Rishi asks his father if they can make

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a potato curry to help welcome her. At first

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he's too busy cleaning and getting the room ready

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for Patti's visit so Rishi grabs the family box.

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family spice box himself and thinks about all

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the significance that the spice box holds for

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the family. He remembers how he heard about his

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potty and how she brought the spice box with

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her. She traveled from a small village to India

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to the big city to become a chef when women weren't

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really allowed to do that at the time. Later

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on Rishi's pati gifted the same spice box to

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his father when he moved to America and he used

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it anytime he felt homesick and needed to feel

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closer to his family. Wanting to carry on the

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family legacy and use the spice box himself,

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Rishi grabs it intending to begin cooking on

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his own, but then he drops the spice box breaking

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it in two. So Rishi and his father clean up the

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mess, fix the box, and then Rishi gets the chance

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to work with his father to create a delicious

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dish for the first time together. I love this

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book a lot. It was really sweet. I love that

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Rishi kind of thinks back on all the significance

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that the spice box has for the family and how

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it kind of connects three generations of them

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and how it, you know, it kind of... When he reflects

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on it he remembers how it you know began in India

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and it kind of holds them to their roots It's

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just something tangible that kind of holds them

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all together. It was really sweet. I especially

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loved the illustrations They were just so bright

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so colorful really engaging and even for because

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this one has I think it might be a little bit

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more difficult. I said more harder, I did. It

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has some harder concepts for younger learners

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in that it talks a lot about India and just being

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in another country in general, which is challenging

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because that's something that like... If it's

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not concrete and right in front of a four -year

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-old, a lot of the times they can't really understand

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it, but these illustrations are so bright and

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engaging. It really brings life to it. And because

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the spice box in particular is what kind of holds

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the family together and this is what they're

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kind of focusing on a little bit more. I think

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it helps because you can kind of see it moving

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from generation to generation and you can physically

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see how it connects all of them together. So

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I really loved that it kind of made it a little

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bit more tangible and just made it a little bit

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more relatable for our youngest learners. I would

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give this one also a five out of five. It was

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a really sweet story and I love that it in the

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end it really just brought everybody in the book

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that much closer together. The characters were

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really engaging and you were really like wanting

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all of them to connect. It was just really sweet.

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I loved it. It was a great book. Agreed. Like

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everything that you said, this was just such

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a wonderful story. I loved it a lot. The illustrations

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were amazing. I personally just love learning

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about different cultures and reading books from

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other cultures and kind of seeing the points

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of view and learning about like the food and

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all. And so like this hits all of those points

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as well. I just I think this is a wonderful story.

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I love that it's from somebody who has that experience.

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It's not just like a white person writing a story

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about a kid coming from another country. So that's

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always wonderful to have people with their original

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voice in the story. It makes it so much better

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and so much more authentic. But it was just,

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yeah, just a really great story. I loved it a

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lot. I look forward to using this book this year.

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read this one until you suggested it for this

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and I love it. It's amazing and definitely gonna

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become one that I read with the kids. It's just

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so great. I loved it a lot. Yeah, it was a good

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one for sure. Okay, for our makerspace activity

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for this book, we were thinking that you could,

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since there's such a heavy family focus, you

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could just have the kids draw a picture of them

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with their family. You could This one talks about

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three different generations so you could really

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talk about like extended family and Really think

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about the different people that are in their

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family Even the people who don't necessarily

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live like in their house just talk more about

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grandparents and aunts and uncles and things

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like that You could also take it a step further

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and if you want You could spend a little bit

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of money, it doesn't have to be a lot, but you

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could go to the dollar store and get some small

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gift boxes and give everybody a small little

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gift box and they could decorate the box and

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have their own little, not necessarily a spice

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box, but just their own little memory box or

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something where they could keep their own. little

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knickknacks that we know all the children love

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to collect. And they could keep their own little

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special things right there just for them. So,

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yeah. Love those ideas. Whoever came up with

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them is brilliant. Brilliant indeed. All right.

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Well, thank you. Too giggly today. Okay. Thank

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you all for joining us today on this episode

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