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Hello, I'm Patrick Adams. And I'm Caroline Legere.

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And this is Librarians of Little. This is a podcast

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where we discuss books, give some ideas for makerspace

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and corporations and give tips and tricks for

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working with our youngest learners. This week

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we are going to be discussing two wonderful books.

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Our theme this week is summer as the school years

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are coming to a close. We thought reading some

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books about summer or beaches. would be a great

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way to kind of end the year for a lot of people.

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And so we've selected two books with that theme.

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The first of which is a book titled There Might

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Be Lobsters. This was published by Candlewick

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Press in 2017. The author is Carolyn Crimme and

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the illustrator is Laurel Mulk. awards or lists.

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This book has been on the CCBC Choice Selection

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2018 list. It has won the Golden Kite Award Picture

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Book Text winner for 2018 as well. And the author,

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Caroline Crimme, was born and raised in Long

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Island, New York. Most of her friends call her

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Crimme. and very few actually call her Carolyn,

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and she has a BA from Lake Forest College in

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Art History and an MFA from Vermont College in

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Writing for Children. She has a pug named Bo

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and she currently lives in Illinois. Some of

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her other books include Weird Little Robots illustrated

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by Corinna Luykin. Henry and the Buccaneer Bunnies,

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illustrated by John Manders. Where's My Mummy,

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illustrated by John Manders. Boris and Bella,

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illustrated by Grizz Grimley. Pugs in a Bug,

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illustrated by Stephanie Buscema. Don't Need

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Friends, illustrated by Lynn M. Munzinger. And

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Henry and the Crazed Chicken Pirates, illustrated

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by John Manders. And the illustrator is Laurel

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Mulk. She used to sell her drawings to her neighbors

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as a child. The going rate was a penny for a

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drawing and six for a nickel. Later, she went

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on to pursue drawing at RISD. After many years

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of freelance work, including designing athletic

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shoes and athletic wear, she directed her energies

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to illustrating and writing children's books.

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She has published several books and has exhibited

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in shows at the Society of Illustrators. And

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some of her other books are Knitting for Dogs,

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which she both wrote and illustrated. A Synagogue

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Just Like Home by Alice B. McGinty. It's a, It's

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a, It's a Mitzvah by Elizabeth Sunnaby and Diane

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Hyman. No Room for a Pup by Elizabeth Sunnaby.

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Take Your Time, A Tale of Harriet the Galapagos

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Tortoise by Eva Ferro and Donna Jo Nepali. And

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so our book, There Might Be Lobsters, is the

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story of Suki, a small dog that is afraid of

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many things. especially at the beach, lobsters

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being at the top of the list. As Suki's owner

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Eleanor tries to convince Suki to enjoy their

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day at the beach, Suki is just too scared of

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those sandy steps of beach balls and of the water

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and of course of the possibility of lobsters.

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When Suki sits out the fun and with her stuffed

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monkey friend Chunkamunka, they Miss out on all

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of that fun and enjoyment when chunkamonka gets

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picked up by the water and the waves Suki has

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to overcome those fears to save chunkamonka.

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I really like this story. I thought it was a

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really cute story of Something that a lot of

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these a lot of our kids think about all the time

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like what might happen those negative thoughts

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that could be there that could happen and focus

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So much on those things they miss out on the

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possibility of all the wonderful fun things that

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could happen. And so this is a really cute story.

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There's the repetition of, but you know, there

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might be lobsters. Every time Eleanor invites

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Suki to do something, it starts with, but Suki

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was a small dog and then gives all these reasons

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why all these crazy things that could potentially

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happen. And then, and there could be lobsters.

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It's a fun story. My students really enjoyed

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this book. We read it this week. They loved it

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because the pictures are beautiful. They're engaging.

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And it's something that a lot of these kids can

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relate to that feeling of, you know, I'm going

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to focus on all the negative things and miss

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out on the possibility of fun, miss out on just,

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you know, kind of live in life. It was It's just

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a such a cool book. I really enjoyed it. I think

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Suki is a lovable character. My kids loved that

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she had a stuffed monkey, Chunkamunka, with her.

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They very much could relate to that and doing

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anything to make sure that your stuffed friend

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is safe. So when Suki has to go out into the

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into the waters like when we first find out like

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Chunkamunka is floating away and then sinking

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like all the kids are sitting there like gasping

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like like what's gonna happen and then when Suki

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gets out into the water to save her everybody

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feels so much relief it was just a cute story

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that my students really kind of got very engaged

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with and emotionally they were they were entangled

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in the story because they wanted to make sure

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that Chunkamunka was safe in the end it was it

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was a really good story i really enjoyed it my

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students loved it Yeah, I love this book. I have

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read it a couple times to my classes. I didn't

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read it this year, but I have read it in the

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past. But like you said, it's a really sweet

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story. Those pictures are very vivid. It really

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brings the story to life a whole lot. And I love

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that it's about, you know, being scared of the

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ocean in particular, because I think there are

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a lot of kids that are scared of trying new things

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in general. And maybe I personally relate to

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it more. Maybe we all do like living in this

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areas. We live in North Texas, right? So like

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there's not an ocean nearby or anything so like

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When you go to the ocean and when you go to a

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brand new place, especially like since our kids

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our students haven't you know Don't have an ocean

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nearby like that would it's definitely something

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different for all of them if they have the privilege

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of going to the beach So and there's i'm sure

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quite a few kids who might have their first beach

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vacation, you know coming up the summer so that's

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kind of it kind of primes them for getting to

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try something new like that that's definitely

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you know something at least if they haven't been

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if they have been to the beach before they may

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have forgotten if there's you know since we're

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working with all those you know four and five

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year olds right now so for our students in particular

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they definitely haven't been anytime recently

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we can say that with certainty so this is kind

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of a good one to kind of remind them like even

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if if they are going to go soon like you know,

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you can, you're going to go and you're going

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to, you might be nervous at first because it

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is something new and something different. It's

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trying different things is always a little bit

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scary, but you're going to be okay. You know,

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trying new things is okay. So it was a good choice.

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I love it. This is a great book. Yeah. And so

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I, it didn't really, it should have, but it didn't

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really click in my head that so few of my students

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would have experiences on a beach. When I was

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younger. I grew up, I was born in California.

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We moved and we were in New England. My family's

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from the Massachusetts area. So like I lived

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in New Hampshire, like going to the beach was

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just just part of the thing. Like the summer

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stuff, like the beach isn't that far. So going

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and experiencing the beach was just part of life.

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And so in my head, that's just, and I've lived

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in Texas for decades now, but summer just correlates

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with beach to me because of those experiences

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when I was younger. And these kids, you're right,

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so many of these kids, the closest thing they

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might have to a beach is like going to a lake

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kind of thing. And that's a completely different

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experience. It's a great experience, but it's

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a very different experience than like ocean beach

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kind of setting. And so it surprised me at first.

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And then I was like, well, that Definitely make

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sense, but we talked about it and some of the

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kids have been to the beach before but many of

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them haven't they have a general idea of what

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a beach is and how they work but like the idea

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well even just for part of it that we had to

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have a little bit of a talk as to how Chunkamunka

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ended up in the water and so then we had to have

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a discussion about tides and how the water comes

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in and then goes back out and so even though

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they were sitting on the sand that water starts

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to rise and Chunkamunka ends up in that water

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and that's how he starts floating out further.

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So there was a nice opportunity to introduce

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that concept in the story, especially for those

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kids who've never seen the ocean up close before

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and had that individualized experience before.

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So it was a good story, but I know for next year,

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especially for my pre -K students, maybe a little

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bit of pre -teaching to discuss some of those

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parts of what a beach is, and how an ocean works,

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and how the water rises and falls, and that kind

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of thing, the tides, just to give a little bit

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more background knowledge. And then I did have

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to explain to kids, because at one point, Suki's

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very worried about the beach ball, because the

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last line is, and beach balls attract lobsters.

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and all the kids were like wait do that and so

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we know it's just this is more of her paranoid

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thinking kind of thing so like but it was a it

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was a really good story and my kids really enjoyed

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it i would say i think i'd give it a four out

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of five i think it was a really fun story like

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i said for younger kids you're gonna have to

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pre -teach or have those conversations in the

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middle of the story but it my kids loved it and

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i think it's a sweet story so Yeah. Solid book.

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Solid. It is. It's a good one. And then as incorporation

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of makerspace activity, I'm gonna break my rule

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and we're gonna use some sand. Oh, no. I know.

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Sand is something that I try to avoid in the

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library. But for this kind of book, I feel like

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we need to have some sand. We'd need like sand

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and shells and some little plastic lobsters and

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other beach kind of ocean animals and maybe some

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like... those mini beach balls we do a beach

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sensory bin have some water and some sand in

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there and let the kids just kind of explore because

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as I found so many of those kids haven't had

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an experience like that where they're being able

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to play in the sand at like a beach and doing

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those things so having some of those things and

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being able to do a sensory bin where they can

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put their hands in that sand and in the water

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and play with some of the little toys and things

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like that i think would be a really great experience

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to for some of these kids who've never done it

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before and it'd be a fun thing to do it's probably

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going to get a little messy i'll have to pull

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out the vacuum and clean it up yeah it's worth

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it for the, for the experience for the students

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to have, to have that opportunity. So doing a

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sensory bin, getting some of that sand and yeah.

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I love it. That's great. That does give our kids

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a new way to kind of experience the beach, even

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if they don't get to go to the beach. Yeah. That's

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great. Yeah. And then like my kinder and first

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grade students, I had them Get to be a little

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bit. I the other things that I had my students

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do Was we use magnet tiles and I challenged the

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students to use the magnet tiles to build their

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own sea creature of some kind So that was kind

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of oh, that's cool. Are you could build it creative

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a castle and do like a sandcastle kind of thing?

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Even if it's not out of sand. Yeah castles are

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still Mm -hmm. Yeah, and then I had the kids

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use IO blocks and build a lobster and so I had

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like a picture oh that's cute and so they they

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use the aisle blocks to build lobsters and so

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that was fun too so there's plenty of different

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options available but I do think having some

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sand and letting the kids get their hands dirty

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and just having that tactile experience would

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be really good yeah and they love it a lot yeah

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yeah and my library this week we're Let the kids

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for the last like two weeks of school just pick

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their favorite things that we've done all year

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long and That has been the number one thing that

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kids have asked for is kinetic sand They need

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more kinetic sand because like you said like

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they don't they don't often get to experience

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it it is something a little bit different and

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it's just I Guess it's more novel for them they

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don't get it at home there's no places like we

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don't have a beach nearby that they can go have

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those experiences so this is a safe place for

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them to do it yeah and they love it and it's

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good for them it is it is it's nice to and it's

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nice that for such a relatively cheap thing we

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can give them that experience you know sand isn't

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expensive and so it might take some time for

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us to get it and to clean it up afterwards but

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to give them that experience is very, very helpful

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for a lot of them. So it's worth it. Yeah. Okay.

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This week for our library of littles management

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tips, since we are getting close to summer, that

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means that we're not necessarily going to be

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able to see our students for a while, or like

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in your case, your students, after being on the

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pre -k campus, they all dispersed to multiple

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elementary schools. So you might not get to see

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them. Yeah. We're one year and then we're done.

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Yeah. It's kind of sad, but it's okay. which

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I think that's to be fair. Like I loved working

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on the pre -k only campus, but that is one nice

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thing about being on an elementary campus that

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has pre -k is like I get to see them the next

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year and get to see how much they've grown, which

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is really cool. But since the summer is coming

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and whether you get to see them next school year

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or not, we want them to continue to practice

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all of those reading skills that we've been working

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with them on all year long. And we know that

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the summer slide can be a real thing and we know

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that our kids aren't necessarily reading. But

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practicing some of those literacy skills of looking

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at the pictures and having books read to them

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is such an important part of development of language

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and reading skills and it's just so important.

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So having some reading activities or a reading

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program or some kind of reading incentive can

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really encourage students to continue those practices

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during the summer. And so we're going to talk

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a little bit about some possible ones to do.

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I have been talking with my students, all of

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my students pre -K through fifth grade for the

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last three weeks. about our local public libraries

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and the wonderful summer reading programs that

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they have available. And so I've been really

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talking that up with them and trying to convince

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them to talk to their parents about the summer

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reading programs that are available through the

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public libraries. And so most public libraries

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will have some form of a summer reading program

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where they're trying to get people to continue

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to read over the summer. We're fortunate that

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in our area, the local library has there's about

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five library five branches within about five

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miles oh wow which is pretty awesome that we

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have we have quite a few libraries in our area

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that are not super far apart which is really

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cool so it gives kids options but our library

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will we'll just say it's a the Fort Worth Public

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Library has a very expansive footprint of libraries

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and they do an excellent job of summer reading

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programs and it's wonderful how those branches

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actually work together because you can like request

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books and they'll send them to your local library

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the closest one for you and that you just get

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a phone call or text message saying that your

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book is in you can go get it which is awesome

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but their summer reading programs are amazing

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also they've got lots of presenters that come

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in and do different performances and do different

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things like that and they're they've got a lot

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of like stem programs that they do where they

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get kids to come in and do different stem activities.

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It's it's wonderful. So I've been really pushing

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that with my students over the last couple weeks

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because I've been like you know guys we're getting

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we've been talking about this is the time of

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the year where we're returning books and not

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checking out new books from the library from

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our school library. So this would be a great

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time for you to be talking to your parents about

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getting a library card and using the public libraries

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and enjoying the all of the things that come

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with that. My district also does a summer reading

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blackout bingo card and so what it is is the

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entire district every student gets a summer reading

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bingo blackout sheet and so it's a five by five

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grid. with each box being a different literacy

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reading activity like read a science fiction

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book or read a whatever and so like This can

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work for pre -k all the way through high school

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Because the science fiction book can be like

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a science fiction chapter book or might just

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be a Picture book that has aliens in it or something,

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you know, like there's plenty like plenty of

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wiggle room in what each of those activities

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looks like for each grade level and each age

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of student. But when the students spend the summer

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as they do them, their parents initial each box

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as it's completed. And if they get blackout,

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so they get all 25 boxes done at the beginning

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of next school year, those students return the

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books or the list to their librarian. Each librarian

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does it a little bit differently as far as if

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they get a reward or not for just completing

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it. I tend to give my kids some rewards. They

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get a couple stickers and they get a bookmark

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and like usually like a lollipop or something

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like that just as like a good job proud of you

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for doing it but the cool thing that my district

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does is they take the librarians collect all

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of those we put that information into a spreadsheet

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so every student in the district that completes

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it and gets that form back to their library and

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their name gets put into this spreadsheet and

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then we use a random number generator to pull

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like five or ten names depending on how much

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money we have that year but they'll pull names

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out of the district's list of people that completed

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it and those students end up with like a full

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-size candy bar and like a $20 gift card to Barnes

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& Noble so they can get another book for themselves

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plus they get like a sweet treat to go with it

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which is really cool it so like even if it's

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just five kids that's about a hundred bucks to

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The 10 kids is about $200. It's not a ton of

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money being spent on that kind of stuff. And

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then the candy bars are, you know, a couple bucks.

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But I try to explain to my students now, like,

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hey, if you don't finish it, you're not in the

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drawing. Like, you might not win, but if you

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don't participate at all, there's no chance of

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winning, right? Like, at least if you do it,

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there's a chance that you could win. And if not,

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you've read and I'll still give you the stickers

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and the bookmark and the popsicle or lollipop

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or whatever, you know. So you get something for

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it, but that's it. It's really cool. It's something

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that I was really happy to find out that this

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district does that. And I was like, this is,

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this is cool. And it's nice that it's so generic

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that it can be used for all of the grade levels,

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you know? Yeah. I love that it's district wide.

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That's wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. It's really cool.

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And so it, we get a lot of participation. It's

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a lot of kids and you know what? I have a lot

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of kids that each year they're like hey I didn't

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finish it but I did this many of them and I still

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most of the time I'll still give the kids the

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stickers and the bookmark and the yeah lollipop

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or whatever I'm like hey you did some of it good

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for you because there's a bunch of kids that

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didn't look at it at all this summer so you know

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yeah I'm okay giving out that kind of stuff for

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even just partial participation because if those

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kids at least attempted to read something hey

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it's better yeah That better than not so I like

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that kind of an incentive kind of program because

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yeah it You don't have to Complete the whole

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thing for me to see you as you tried and so I'm

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gonna give you something for that and encourage

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that still because Yeah, there's a lot of kids

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that are gonna spend their whole summer Just

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sitting in front of the TV or in front of an

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iPad or a cell phone or you know Yeah, so if

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we can get you to pick up a book. I'm gonna be

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all for it That's great. Yeah, so coming up with

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I wish we did something like that Yeah, well,

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maybe it's something that you can Convince somebody

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to do I can get you a copy of what ours looks

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like I'll get you a copy of what it looks like

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so you guys can at least have like something

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to work from Yeah, but that would be great. You

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know, thank you Yeah, that wouldn't be it's like

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I said, it's not super expensive if you only

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do you do five kids Yes, what like? a hundred

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bucks and yeah i'm sure well i'm sure a hundred

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dollars can be found in the budget somewhere

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for that kind of thing you know yeah i would

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probably just put up the money for it i mean

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i wouldn't mind just doing that myself but yes

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it should be encouraged that if it was district

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-wide it needs to be in the library yes but yeah

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even if you did it just on your campus like you

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could do it and use some of your because it's

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because it's for kids you could do it it's you

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could use like some activity funds money or something

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you know like some of the money you make off

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of a book fair or something like that yeah you

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could do something like that with it moving i

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mean clearly it's not going to be something you

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do this summer because it's so close to the end

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of the year but you could start to be thinking

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about it for next year or something yeah well

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and then being on pre -k only campus my kids

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don't come back so i couldn't do it anyway so

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since my kids don't come back Partly I don't

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do like an incentive or anything like that partly

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because my kids don't come back and partly because

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my kids are so little being only four and five

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that like They're it's mostly their parents at

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that age that have to like encourage it a whole

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lot. Yeah So I just try and educate my parents

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and tell them what the summer slide I do have

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a handout that I give them I sent it home this

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last week actually that has information about

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the summer slide and what it is and you know

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It has like an infographic with like that shows

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test scores of kids who read versus kids who

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don't and how often you should read and all the

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things and kind of developmentally appropriate

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ways to read at home. And then I usually use

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my scholastic funds to send a free book home

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at the end of every year so they can start reading

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at home. And I do give them information about

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the public library and because like you said,

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The public libraries do amazing things and have

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wonderful summer programming. And that should

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really, really be taken advantage of because

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it's all free and it's all wonderful stuff. And

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it's like really engaging. Yeah. Yeah. I did

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find an infographic earlier this week and it

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was different summer reading program freebies

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and like Barnes and Noble does a program where

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if you read some books, you, they have a selection

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of books that you can pick from where you can

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earn a book by just reading and you just kind

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of have to write about the book a little bit.

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And so like even little kids could do that. They

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might have to tell their parent what their favorite

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part was and have the parent help them write

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it down or something, but that would work. Books

00:25:15.410 --> 00:25:18.829
a million, if you read books, I don't know how

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many you have to read, but if you read a certain

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number of books, they give you a free backpack.

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Pizza Hut is still doing the Book It program.

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So like that's, you can get a free personal pizza

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for reading some books. Panda Express does a

00:25:34.589 --> 00:25:37.170
free kids meal coupon when you read five books.

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I did not know that one. Yeah. That's news to

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me. And Chuck E. Cheese, you get 10 free play

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points for reading and filling out a reading

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reward calendar. So basically for like the month,

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you can earn 10 free play points at Chuck E.

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Cheese. That's cool. Lots of programs that encourage

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reading and so like you don't have to like create

00:25:59.369 --> 00:26:01.890
the wheel. Yeah, you can just talk to your kids

00:26:01.890 --> 00:26:04.450
and let them know that some of these things are

00:26:04.450 --> 00:26:08.630
available to them and you can share it with the

00:26:08.630 --> 00:26:11.490
families. And yeah, there's plenty of different

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things we can do to keep the kids reading over

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the summer. And even like the kids I have so

00:26:17.170 --> 00:26:19.619
many kids that in. Even in pre -k they're like,

00:26:19.660 --> 00:26:23.180
but I can't read I can't read and yeah, you can

00:26:23.180 --> 00:26:26.019
like yeah, we have to I have the conversation

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I have to have it multiple times a year just

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to keep reminding the kids but like the pre -k

00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:34.339
students They're looking at the pictures. They're

00:26:34.339 --> 00:26:37.180
predicting what is happening in the story based

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on those pictures and like they're listening

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to the stories and Making guesses and all these

00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:46.900
different things. Those are all Pre -reading

00:26:46.900 --> 00:26:49.319
skills there. They're learning those skills so

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that once they start learning the letters and

00:26:52.299 --> 00:26:54.559
the sounds and that kind of thing They can start

00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:57.200
using all of that, but that's the basis. That's

00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:58.839
the basis for it And so I explained to the kids

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you might not be reading the words yet But you

00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:03.779
are learning how to read by looking at the books

00:27:03.779 --> 00:27:05.819
and following the pictures and looking at the

00:27:05.819 --> 00:27:08.180
words and identifying some of those letters that

00:27:08.180 --> 00:27:09.660
are in the words and that kind of like that's

00:27:09.660 --> 00:27:13.920
the first step and so You know these summer reading

00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:18.440
programs are great because we just need the kids

00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:20.619
to have the books in their hands. And so encouraging

00:27:20.619 --> 00:27:24.559
parents to help the kids with that and giving

00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:28.119
them the incentives to try and get some cake,

00:27:28.180 --> 00:27:30.400
get some free books or get some free rewards

00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:35.000
for reading. I think that helps incentivize the

00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:37.579
parents sometimes too, for our younger kids.

00:27:37.779 --> 00:27:40.559
Like, oh, well we could get another free book

00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.779
or oh, we can get a personal pan pizza for doing

00:27:43.779 --> 00:27:46.200
this with our child you know like yeah any of

00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:51.380
those things the goal is to get the kids with

00:27:51.380 --> 00:27:53.599
the books and so anything we can do to make sure

00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.619
that happens you know yeah absolutely because

00:27:57.619 --> 00:28:00.180
those those basic skills of following the pictures

00:28:00.180 --> 00:28:03.299
and stuff like that that's what we need them

00:28:03.299 --> 00:28:06.700
to be doing at that age it it's developmentally

00:28:06.700 --> 00:28:08.619
that's where they need to be and so we want them

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to be doing it yeah it sure is yeah All right

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Well, the next book we're gonna talk about today

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is called Ursula upside down. It's published

00:28:20.700 --> 00:28:25.779
by Balzer and Bray I believe in 2024 and the

00:28:25.779 --> 00:28:28.380
author and illustrator of this book is Corey

00:28:28.380 --> 00:28:31.039
Tabor We've talked about him before but he's

00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:33.299
kind of an amazing author. So we're gonna talk

00:28:33.299 --> 00:28:36.119
about his books one more time Probably again

00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:39.200
in the future. We'll see this particular book.

00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:41.680
I didn't realize it when I chose it, but it's

00:28:41.630 --> 00:28:46.009
won quite a couple of awards and it's on 11 state

00:28:46.009 --> 00:28:50.450
lists. The awards it's won are, it was one of

00:28:50.450 --> 00:28:52.470
the school library journals best books of the

00:28:52.470 --> 00:28:56.349
year for 2024. It's an ALSC notable children's

00:28:56.349 --> 00:28:59.329
book for 2025 and it's a junior library guild

00:28:59.329 --> 00:29:03.650
selection. It is on 11 state lists. Some of them

00:29:03.650 --> 00:29:07.349
are the Georgia Children's Book Award for 2026,

00:29:08.069 --> 00:29:10.730
Minnesota Star of the North. Picture Book Award

00:29:10.730 --> 00:29:14.170
for 2026 and Washington Children's Choice Picture

00:29:14.170 --> 00:29:19.049
Book Award for 2026. And so our author Corey

00:29:19.049 --> 00:29:21.869
Tabor is an author and illustrator of children's

00:29:21.869 --> 00:29:25.109
books. He won a Caldecott honor for Mel Fell

00:29:25.109 --> 00:29:29.730
and has won the Geisel three times for his books,

00:29:30.069 --> 00:29:35.130
Fox has a Problem, Fox at Night and Fox the Tiger.

00:29:35.569 --> 00:29:38.170
He currently lives in Tacoma, Washington with

00:29:38.170 --> 00:29:41.849
his wife and son. Some of his other books are

00:29:41.849 --> 00:29:44.410
all of the Fox series, so some of those are Fox

00:29:44.410 --> 00:29:46.970
versus Fox, Fox the Tiger, Fox at Night, Fox

00:29:46.970 --> 00:29:49.670
has a Problem, and Fox versus Winter. He also

00:29:49.670 --> 00:29:52.109
wrote Simon and the Better Bone, Sir Ladybug

00:29:52.109 --> 00:29:55.970
and the Bookworms, and Sir Ladybug and the Queen

00:29:55.970 --> 00:30:00.829
Bee, Melfell, and Snail Crossing. And in this

00:30:00.829 --> 00:30:05.289
book, Ursula is an upside down catfish who happily

00:30:05.289 --> 00:30:07.829
lives her days swimming through life upside down.

00:30:08.049 --> 00:30:10.769
That is until another fish brings it to her attention

00:30:10.769 --> 00:30:13.309
that she is not like anyone else around her.

00:30:13.490 --> 00:30:15.730
Distraught, she attempts to swim through life

00:30:15.730 --> 00:30:18.369
right side up. The unnatural swimming motion

00:30:18.369 --> 00:30:20.509
propels her onto the beach where she is trapped

00:30:20.509 --> 00:30:22.569
until a bat comes by to help her back into the

00:30:22.569 --> 00:30:25.789
water. And he helps her realize that being upside

00:30:25.789 --> 00:30:29.349
down isn't necessarily bad, it's just different.

00:30:30.009 --> 00:30:34.109
I love this book. I had very calming colors throughout,

00:30:34.470 --> 00:30:37.849
lots of pastels going on. Very sweet, very calming.

00:30:38.829 --> 00:30:41.450
I love that it was about being true to yourself.

00:30:41.789 --> 00:30:44.230
It really kind of helps the reader realize that

00:30:44.230 --> 00:30:47.750
being Different isn't necessarily a bad thing

00:30:47.750 --> 00:30:51.009
I think a lot of a lot of humans in general just

00:30:51.009 --> 00:30:52.849
feel like we all need to conform and be like

00:30:52.849 --> 00:30:54.809
everybody else and this one really encourages

00:30:54.809 --> 00:30:57.309
you to Kind of be true to yourself, and it's

00:30:57.309 --> 00:31:01.210
okay if you do things differently You don't have

00:31:01.210 --> 00:31:04.309
to do You know swim a right side up like everybody

00:31:04.309 --> 00:31:06.809
else when Ursula ends up on the beach and the

00:31:06.809 --> 00:31:08.789
bats kind of talking to her He's like you know

00:31:08.789 --> 00:31:12.440
what I sleep upside down look at me and he kind

00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:14.900
of shows her that there's you know there's snake

00:31:14.900 --> 00:31:17.140
hanging upside down in the tree and an iguana

00:31:17.140 --> 00:31:19.460
upside down in the trees and like there there

00:31:19.460 --> 00:31:22.460
are other animals that are upside down and at

00:31:22.460 --> 00:31:27.180
the very end it has there's a note in there somewhere

00:31:27.180 --> 00:31:30.799
at the very end there's a spot that's like you

00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.359
know what maybe we're all swimming the wrong

00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.039
way and she's right you don't really know But

00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:37.900
the very, very last page of this book has an

00:31:37.900 --> 00:31:40.819
author's note that explains that Ursula is based

00:31:40.819 --> 00:31:43.819
on a real species that is actually called the

00:31:43.819 --> 00:31:47.839
upside -down catfish, and that species of catfish

00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.039
lives in the Congo River basin in Africa, and

00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:54.640
I had never heard of that, so that was real interesting.

00:31:55.059 --> 00:31:57.740
But yeah, I haven't read this book to a class

00:31:57.740 --> 00:32:00.220
yet, but I think they would love it. I really,

00:32:00.220 --> 00:32:04.710
really enjoyed it a lot. Yeah, I this is on my

00:32:04.710 --> 00:32:07.529
list of books to purchase for next school year

00:32:07.529 --> 00:32:10.670
because I hadn't read this before you you mentioned

00:32:10.670 --> 00:32:14.849
it and it's I love it. It's awesome. I love any

00:32:14.849 --> 00:32:17.049
book where it's like, Hey, just be yourself.

00:32:17.250 --> 00:32:19.769
I love that message. That's so important, especially

00:32:19.769 --> 00:32:22.309
for our youngest learners. Just it's okay to

00:32:22.309 --> 00:32:24.970
be yourself. It's okay. If you're not exactly

00:32:24.970 --> 00:32:27.210
like everyone else, that's all right. And so

00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:29.630
that's a, it's a really important message to

00:32:29.630 --> 00:32:32.009
share with students. And this book does an amazing

00:32:32.009 --> 00:32:34.569
job of it. Like you said, the illustrations were

00:32:34.569 --> 00:32:38.589
so great. I love the colors and then just, yeah,

00:32:38.670 --> 00:32:41.390
I had no idea that this, that there was such

00:32:41.390 --> 00:32:44.190
thing as an upside down catfish. So that also,

00:32:44.230 --> 00:32:47.589
I love that idea because now I'm like, well,

00:32:47.670 --> 00:32:52.450
we could read this and then we could pull up

00:32:52.450 --> 00:32:56.950
one of our research engines and kind of like

00:32:56.950 --> 00:32:58.930
learn a little bit more about the upside down

00:32:58.930 --> 00:33:02.509
catfish and find some real life pictures of it.

00:33:02.630 --> 00:33:06.250
And we could find out. other things about it

00:33:06.250 --> 00:33:08.190
and other things that live in the Congo River

00:33:08.190 --> 00:33:11.450
basin and like that could spur on a whole like

00:33:11.450 --> 00:33:15.190
research kind of activity that I bet a lot of

00:33:15.190 --> 00:33:16.990
these kids because these kids love animals so

00:33:16.990 --> 00:33:20.529
much so learning they do animals would be yeah

00:33:20.529 --> 00:33:24.009
really cool kind of spin -off after reading this

00:33:24.009 --> 00:33:27.130
that I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna do that

00:33:27.130 --> 00:33:31.859
because I know for my district a lot of my younger

00:33:31.859 --> 00:33:34.759
grade levels not so much pre -k but like kinder

00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:39.359
and first they start to discuss like non -fiction

00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:44.220
books around like November, December, January

00:33:44.220 --> 00:33:46.660
era time and so like this would be a really cool

00:33:46.660 --> 00:33:50.160
book to be like well this is a fiction book and

00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.819
it has this awesome message in it now we can

00:33:52.819 --> 00:33:55.259
show you where the non -fiction books that have

00:33:55.259 --> 00:33:57.279
animals like this and we can learn about those

00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.170
animals and we can corporate doing some research

00:34:00.170 --> 00:34:04.329
online and like, I don't know, I, as I was reading

00:34:04.329 --> 00:34:06.190
it, I was like, I love this book for so many

00:34:06.190 --> 00:34:07.769
reasons. I can come up with a bunch of different

00:34:07.769 --> 00:34:09.929
activities that we can do with it. And it's just,

00:34:10.309 --> 00:34:13.269
it's a great story with wonderful pictures. It's

00:34:13.269 --> 00:34:15.250
going to be, it's super engaging. So I think

00:34:15.250 --> 00:34:17.130
my students will really love it. And I look forward

00:34:17.130 --> 00:34:20.550
to using it because it's, it's just so fun. It

00:34:20.550 --> 00:34:24.170
is a lot of fun. It has very Melfell vibes. I

00:34:24.170 --> 00:34:26.949
love that you like, because there was even one

00:34:26.949 --> 00:34:30.539
page where like, where Ursula decides she's gonna

00:34:30.539 --> 00:34:33.460
start swimming right side up and like it has

00:34:33.460 --> 00:34:36.159
they have arrows that are like you turn the book

00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:40.380
this way now and it was just it's really cool

00:34:40.380 --> 00:34:42.039
the way i don't even think i can describe it

00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.119
all that adequately i just love those illustrations

00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.019
so much like the way Ursula is drawn upside down

00:34:47.019 --> 00:34:51.980
just it's very cool yeah i enjoy it a lot i think

00:34:51.980 --> 00:34:54.300
i would give it a five out of five i like it

00:34:54.300 --> 00:34:57.239
absolutely yeah it's a good one And I think for

00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.519
a makerspace activity for this one, because the

00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.800
colors are so muted and because it's got, you

00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.059
know, water is a central theme and she does end

00:35:07.059 --> 00:35:08.699
up on the beach and all that, I think I would

00:35:08.699 --> 00:35:12.019
just do painting with watercolors in the library.

00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.059
I would do very minimal water because I'm a little

00:35:15.059 --> 00:35:17.280
bit afraid about water near books, but as long

00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.579
as there's like a separate workspace and separate

00:35:19.579 --> 00:35:21.199
tables that are kind of a little bit farther

00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.869
away from the books, just... yeah painting with

00:35:24.869 --> 00:35:26.889
watercolors and kind of exploring that because

00:35:26.889 --> 00:35:29.909
the colors in the book do are kind of i'm not

00:35:29.909 --> 00:35:32.449
sure if they are watercolors but i kind of feel

00:35:32.449 --> 00:35:34.929
like they might be because of the way the muted

00:35:34.929 --> 00:35:38.710
colors are they're not super bright they're kind

00:35:38.710 --> 00:35:41.309
of they kind of have watercolor vibes going on

00:35:41.309 --> 00:35:44.190
and then water is naturally a central theme in

00:35:44.190 --> 00:35:47.610
the book it's you know like on every page so

00:35:47.610 --> 00:35:49.869
i think i would just yeah teach kids how to use

00:35:49.869 --> 00:35:52.989
watercolors and kind of encourage them to draw

00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.980
scenes from the book, but obviously, whatever

00:35:56.980 --> 00:35:59.300
they want to draw is fine. But maybe encourage

00:35:59.300 --> 00:36:02.719
that a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah. I love that

00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:06.559
idea, getting that creativity out and using some

00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:10.940
new new materials that that'd be a lot of fun

00:36:10.940 --> 00:36:13.880
for them. Yeah, because sometimes it's good to

00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:17.440
just let them explore on their own a little bit

00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.449
and kind of create whatever they'd like to. on

00:36:21.449 --> 00:36:23.030
their own and this would be a good way to do

00:36:23.030 --> 00:36:25.730
that yeah that sounds awesome well still have

00:36:25.730 --> 00:36:29.030
a still having a literacy connection so yeah

00:36:29.030 --> 00:36:32.469
yeah and it's always fun to see what they can

00:36:32.469 --> 00:36:35.090
come up what they choose to draw and paint yeah

00:36:35.090 --> 00:36:38.329
so like that that's always fun to be like i love

00:36:38.329 --> 00:36:40.349
just watching to find out what the end result

00:36:40.349 --> 00:36:42.949
looks like because there's a lot of really creative

00:36:42.949 --> 00:36:45.550
kids out there oh my gosh there really are come

00:36:45.550 --> 00:36:48.369
up with some amazing things and so like just

00:36:48.590 --> 00:36:51.170
that opportunity to just give them a brush and

00:36:51.170 --> 00:36:53.050
let them go at it and see what they come up with

00:36:53.050 --> 00:36:56.070
and not have to give them like a ton of defined

00:36:56.070 --> 00:36:59.170
rules of what the end result needs to look like

00:36:59.170 --> 00:37:02.150
just kind of giving them that freedom is always

00:37:02.150 --> 00:37:04.289
fun just to see what what the end result looks

00:37:04.289 --> 00:37:10.329
like so yeah it's a good time yeah all right

00:37:10.329 --> 00:37:13.070
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00:37:13.070 --> 00:37:15.389
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00:37:15.389 --> 00:37:17.869
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