WEBVTT 00:00:20.749 --> 00:00:25.070 I'm Patrick Adams. And I'm Caroline Legere. This 00:00:25.070 --> 00:00:28.929 is Librarians of Littles, a podcast where we 00:00:28.929 --> 00:00:33.810 share books, makerspace ideas, and tips and tricks 00:00:33.810 --> 00:00:37.329 for working with our youngest learners in the 00:00:37.329 --> 00:00:42.009 library setting. This week we have two excellent 00:00:42.009 --> 00:00:45.009 picture books that we were able to get our hands 00:00:45.009 --> 00:00:49.450 on during our recent visit to the Texas Library 00:00:49.450 --> 00:00:51.969 Association. And so we'll be talking about those, 00:00:52.030 --> 00:00:55.340 but before we do that, We have to follow up because 00:00:55.340 --> 00:00:58.539 Caroline, in one of our previous episodes, you 00:00:58.539 --> 00:01:01.619 just told us about getting an author to come 00:01:01.619 --> 00:01:04.700 visit your library. So tell us how that went, 00:01:05.099 --> 00:01:07.099 how the experience was, what the kids thought 00:01:07.099 --> 00:01:10.299 of it, all your thoughts on the whole experience 00:01:10.299 --> 00:01:15.500 overall. Well, I had a wonderful week this last 00:01:15.500 --> 00:01:19.700 week. Tammy sour came to our schools both them 00:01:19.700 --> 00:01:23.599 and presented for a little pre K kids I did tell 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:25.599 her ahead of time obviously that we had all pre 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:28.700 K and she definitely made a presentation for 00:01:28.700 --> 00:01:31.280 us that was very developmentally appropriate 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:35.079 it helped a lot that Tammy sour has previously 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:39.200 taught pre K. She came in and she had started 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:43.450 with. puppet from wordy birdy and she read that 00:01:43.450 --> 00:01:48.170 book to our kids and then she the presentation 00:01:48.170 --> 00:01:52.530 in total was about 30 minutes long and. She read 00:01:52.530 --> 00:01:56.250 wordy birdy she gave us a little background about 00:01:56.250 --> 00:01:59.549 herself and kind of how she gets her ideas for 00:01:59.549 --> 00:02:02.989 writing children's books and how she grew up 00:02:02.989 --> 00:02:07.890 on a farm and it was. It was background information 00:02:07.890 --> 00:02:10.710 and it was good information, but she did a really 00:02:10.710 --> 00:02:15.650 good job with making it really engaging for our 00:02:15.650 --> 00:02:18.789 kids. She had a lot of barnyard dances and such 00:02:18.789 --> 00:02:21.270 kind of built in there. So the kids got to move 00:02:21.270 --> 00:02:23.330 a little bit, even though they were sitting for 00:02:23.330 --> 00:02:25.610 a solid 30 minutes, they weren't like sitting 00:02:25.610 --> 00:02:29.550 for a solid 30 minutes. It was, they got to move 00:02:29.550 --> 00:02:33.349 like barnyard animals and dance around a little 00:02:33.349 --> 00:02:35.490 bit in their spots. They didn't get up. which 00:02:35.490 --> 00:02:37.069 was probably for the best because there were 00:02:37.069 --> 00:02:39.610 so many of them in one space. And then she ended 00:02:39.610 --> 00:02:43.590 by reading. You would think I would have it very 00:02:43.590 --> 00:02:46.650 memorized in a big way by now, right? What did 00:02:46.650 --> 00:02:49.650 she read at the very end? Oh, no, the underpants. 00:02:50.050 --> 00:02:53.469 That's right. She read the underpants. But yeah, 00:02:53.569 --> 00:02:56.810 the kids had a great time. There were I had I 00:02:56.810 --> 00:02:59.770 don't know how many teachers came up to me afterward 00:02:59.770 --> 00:03:03.990 and told me they were a little bit nervous beforehand. 00:03:04.009 --> 00:03:06.770 They didn't think it was developmentally appropriate 00:03:06.770 --> 00:03:11.270 for an author to come and visit our school because 00:03:11.270 --> 00:03:14.750 it is all three, fours and fives. A lot of the 00:03:14.750 --> 00:03:19.229 kids. They were concerned that maybe the children 00:03:19.229 --> 00:03:23.250 wouldn't understand What an author is or like 00:03:23.250 --> 00:03:25.469 that she was the one that wrote the books or 00:03:25.469 --> 00:03:28.289 anything like that But I really think that most 00:03:28.289 --> 00:03:31.370 of the kids got it I mean a few it went over 00:03:31.370 --> 00:03:35.009 a few kids heads but beforehand I talked to the 00:03:35.009 --> 00:03:37.610 kids about what an author is and what an author 00:03:37.610 --> 00:03:39.830 does and why they're important for the book and 00:03:39.830 --> 00:03:41.389 that they're the ones who write the words in 00:03:41.389 --> 00:03:45.449 the book and when we were beginning our presentation 00:03:45.449 --> 00:03:48.490 every single one i kind of reviewed that vocabulary 00:03:48.490 --> 00:03:50.949 with them and ask them what we were going to 00:03:50.949 --> 00:03:53.750 do and they were able to tell me you know. This 00:03:53.750 --> 00:03:56.490 is an author and she wrote the words in the book 00:03:56.490 --> 00:04:00.030 beforehand like days before when i was talking 00:04:00.030 --> 00:04:05.250 it up they were a couple of two kids from different 00:04:05.250 --> 00:04:09.150 schools both said authors aren't real and they 00:04:09.150 --> 00:04:12.930 thought i was kidding because. surely that's 00:04:12.930 --> 00:04:15.389 not real the book just magically appears and 00:04:15.389 --> 00:04:19.430 then afterward I asked them individually do you 00:04:19.430 --> 00:04:21.750 believe in authors now and they're like yeah 00:04:21.750 --> 00:04:25.670 I do so that was very exciting that we got to 00:04:25.670 --> 00:04:28.269 prove that authors are real but yeah it went 00:04:28.269 --> 00:04:30.949 really well and I'm so excited that we did it 00:04:30.949 --> 00:04:34.269 I was fortunate enough to be able to come in 00:04:34.269 --> 00:04:36.829 and sneak in and visit and watch the presentation 00:04:36.829 --> 00:04:41.069 and I have to say I just The amount of energy 00:04:41.069 --> 00:04:43.470 that Tammy Sauer brings to the presentation, 00:04:44.110 --> 00:04:47.769 I am in awe how she can keep her energy level 00:04:47.769 --> 00:04:50.790 so high for the entire time. But she does a great 00:04:50.790 --> 00:04:56.930 job of just being so high energy and just so 00:04:56.930 --> 00:05:00.470 on in front of the kids and being able to just 00:05:00.470 --> 00:05:03.769 keep their attention. It was very cool. And I'm 00:05:03.769 --> 00:05:06.209 glad that your campus and your students were 00:05:06.209 --> 00:05:10.000 able to experience that because From what I saw, 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:13.379 all of the kids were very engaged and very excited 00:05:13.379 --> 00:05:18.620 the entire time, and I loved that after the presentation, 00:05:18.819 --> 00:05:21.980 you gave your students a chance to make their 00:05:21.980 --> 00:05:25.819 own books, and that was the most popular of the 00:05:25.819 --> 00:05:27.980 choices of things they could do is get over there 00:05:27.980 --> 00:05:29.980 because they all wanted to become authors right 00:05:29.980 --> 00:05:32.759 then and there. And that was just a really cute 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:35.139 thing to see all of those kids wanting to make 00:05:35.139 --> 00:05:36.800 their own books now that they've seen someone 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:40.779 who does that for a job. That was a really cool 00:05:40.779 --> 00:05:43.240 experience. Yeah, that definitely was the most 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:45.139 popular one. There were a couple of classes where 00:05:45.139 --> 00:05:48.660 I had to add an extra table with extra paper 00:05:48.660 --> 00:05:50.879 and crayons and all the things so that we could 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:54.740 have extra authors or extra kids becoming authors. 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:57.519 And we just kept using that vocabulary when they 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.420 were becoming authors. Yeah, we folded pieces 00:06:00.420 --> 00:06:02.459 of paper in half. Initially, I tried to give 00:06:02.459 --> 00:06:04.319 them like two or three pieces of paper so they 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:08.360 could have multiple pages. Turned out that one 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:10.779 piece of paper folded in half was perfect for 00:06:10.779 --> 00:06:13.180 pre -k. That's what I should have done is simpler 00:06:13.180 --> 00:06:17.879 is better in pre -k but they drew their own pictures 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:21.500 and Then I had them when they were ready They 00:06:21.500 --> 00:06:24.139 came and got me and told me what words to write 00:06:24.139 --> 00:06:26.439 in their book and there were some like actual 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:29.610 stories in there with like actual like I mean, 00:06:29.649 --> 00:06:32.290 not complex plot, but there was like, oh, there's 00:06:32.290 --> 00:06:35.029 an alligator coming in one of the books. And 00:06:35.029 --> 00:06:37.329 some of the books were just like one or two words. 00:06:37.329 --> 00:06:39.790 And that's OK. There were a few kids that were 00:06:39.790 --> 00:06:43.250 just like labeling pictures. That's when we still 00:06:43.250 --> 00:06:44.709 called them authors and everything, even though 00:06:44.709 --> 00:06:48.829 it wasn't a complex story by any means. But there 00:06:48.829 --> 00:06:52.410 were a few kids that had like actual plot lines 00:06:52.410 --> 00:06:56.029 and such in their little books. So. Yeah, it 00:06:56.029 --> 00:06:58.470 was a lot of fun and Tammy Sauer actually stayed 00:06:58.470 --> 00:07:02.230 in for a lot of those and she was very gracious 00:07:02.230 --> 00:07:05.029 and let some of the kids read their books to 00:07:05.029 --> 00:07:10.189 her and I think she even in our very first class 00:07:10.189 --> 00:07:12.790 of the day she even like took a picture with 00:07:12.790 --> 00:07:16.250 one of the kids and like the teacher came over 00:07:16.250 --> 00:07:18.649 and I'm pretty sure Tammy Sauer like wrote in 00:07:18.649 --> 00:07:20.829 the book with the child and everything because 00:07:20.829 --> 00:07:24.050 that particular child writes a whole lot of books. 00:07:25.349 --> 00:07:30.750 I know it was great. I will say when Looking 00:07:30.750 --> 00:07:33.670 to book Tammy sour because I I think that the 00:07:33.670 --> 00:07:35.910 authors and illustrators that do a lot of author 00:07:35.910 --> 00:07:37.670 visits will have something on their websites 00:07:37.670 --> 00:07:40.209 where you can fill out a form and it kind of 00:07:40.209 --> 00:07:41.910 shows you what kind of presentations they have 00:07:41.910 --> 00:07:44.949 and hers in particular does have like she has 00:07:44.949 --> 00:07:48.250 a kindergarten first presentation and then like 00:07:48.250 --> 00:07:51.329 a second and third presentation and then a fourth 00:07:51.329 --> 00:07:54.610 and fifth And obviously what we went with the 00:07:54.610 --> 00:07:56.470 kinder and first but it was good to know that 00:07:56.470 --> 00:08:00.470 like booking her like you could tell this is 00:08:00.470 --> 00:08:03.250 probably gonna be more developmentally appropriate 00:08:03.250 --> 00:08:07.170 i think there may be some authors where. That 00:08:07.170 --> 00:08:09.990 might specialize in you know working with older 00:08:09.990 --> 00:08:12.269 kids a little bit better and relating to them 00:08:12.269 --> 00:08:14.990 but with Tammy you could tell that she would 00:08:14.990 --> 00:08:17.829 work really well pre -k because she broke down 00:08:17.829 --> 00:08:21.019 the presentations in that way and kind of. tailored 00:08:21.019 --> 00:08:25.779 it to the age group she was working with. It's 00:08:25.779 --> 00:08:28.259 such a cool experience and I'm so happy that 00:08:28.259 --> 00:08:32.980 you were able to do that for your campuses. Me 00:08:32.980 --> 00:08:40.840 too. Alright, so today our books that we're going 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:45.059 to discuss are books that we were able to purchase 00:08:45.059 --> 00:08:46.779 or actually we didn't even have to purchase them. 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.750 We were able to get them by attending the Texas 00:08:50.750 --> 00:08:53.809 Library Association conference. We were able 00:08:53.809 --> 00:08:56.929 to meet these authors and get autographed copies 00:08:56.929 --> 00:09:00.610 of these books, which was super cool. And so 00:09:00.610 --> 00:09:04.029 we have two really great books that are coming 00:09:04.029 --> 00:09:08.669 out this year. They're new books, the first of 00:09:08.669 --> 00:09:13.929 which is a book titled Anything. It is published 00:09:13.929 --> 00:09:18.830 by Chronicle Books. It comes out the Book release 00:09:18.830 --> 00:09:24.090 date is actually April 25th of this year 2025. 00:09:24.470 --> 00:09:27.289 So it comes out in the next week or so from our 00:09:27.289 --> 00:09:31.450 recording. The author is Rebecca Steed and the 00:09:31.450 --> 00:09:37.049 illustrator is Gracie Zong. Since this book actually 00:09:37.049 --> 00:09:39.730 technically hasn't been released yet, there are 00:09:39.730 --> 00:09:43.230 no awards for it. But Rebecca Steed has won a 00:09:43.230 --> 00:09:46.210 Newberry Award for her book, When You Reach Me. 00:09:46.330 --> 00:09:49.870 and Gracie Zung has received the Ezra Jack Keats 00:09:49.870 --> 00:09:53.330 Illustrator Award for her debut book, La La's 00:09:53.330 --> 00:09:56.070 Words, and together both of them have appeared 00:09:56.070 --> 00:10:01.730 on multiple lists. So they're both amazing at 00:10:01.730 --> 00:10:06.070 what they do. As far as Rebecca Steed, Rebecca 00:10:06.070 --> 00:10:08.590 Steed grew up in New York City. In elementary 00:10:08.590 --> 00:10:11.490 school she found a love of reading. Her love 00:10:11.490 --> 00:10:14.330 of reading made her want to be a writer, but 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:16.559 She didn't think she would be able to so she 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:18.779 became a lawyer with dreams of being a writer 00:10:18.779 --> 00:10:22.799 at some point. She got married and had two kids 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:25.019 and after visiting a bookstore and being inspired 00:10:25.019 --> 00:10:27.720 once again she began writing and she's been doing 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:31.980 it now for 20 years. She states that often she's 00:10:31.980 --> 00:10:36.259 asked how she begins and her response is to quote, 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:40.100 do not wait for perfect words. Welcome the words 00:10:40.100 --> 00:10:42.759 that show up. They are inviting you into another 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:45.500 world. The most important thing to know about 00:10:45.500 --> 00:10:49.580 writing is that there are no rules. Which sounds 00:10:49.580 --> 00:10:53.539 like excellent advice. Some of her other books, 00:10:53.820 --> 00:10:57.100 isn't that amazing? I loved it. And then some 00:10:57.100 --> 00:10:59.059 of her other books, all of her other books are 00:10:59.059 --> 00:11:02.299 actually chapter books, they're older books. 00:11:02.340 --> 00:11:05.200 So this is her first picture book, but some of 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:08.379 her other books include When You Reach Me, Goodbye 00:11:08.379 --> 00:11:13.490 Stranger, The Lost Library, Bob, The List of 00:11:13.490 --> 00:11:17.149 Things That Will Not Change, First Light, and 00:11:17.149 --> 00:11:21.230 she has another book coming out this fall, The 00:11:21.230 --> 00:11:26.980 Experiment. And for our illustrator history, 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:30.679 Gracie Zong has a BFA in illustration from the 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:33.720 Rhode Island School of Design. Gracie was born 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:36.559 and raised in Vancouver, Canada. She has participated 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:40.440 in artist residencies all over the world, including 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:45.059 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, and in France. She is 00:11:45.059 --> 00:11:48.039 now based out of New York and has a studio in 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:52.100 Brooklyn. Some of her other books include Nigel 00:11:52.100 --> 00:11:55.529 and the Moon by Antoine Edie. Noodles on a Bicycle 00:11:55.529 --> 00:12:01.450 by Keo McClear Emergency Quarters by Carlos Matias 00:12:01.450 --> 00:12:06.330 The Big Bath House by Keo McClear Dear Mr. G 00:12:06.330 --> 00:12:11.409 by Christine Evans The Science of Boys by Emily 00:12:11.409 --> 00:12:17.049 Satoko Sio The Upside Down Hat by Stephen Barr 00:12:17.049 --> 00:12:21.789 and One More Jar of Jam by Michelle Sumovich 00:12:22.939 --> 00:12:26.899 And then she's also written and illustrated Lala's 00:12:26.899 --> 00:12:32.419 words and when Ruben plays. So for our book, 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:36.259 Anything, the summary is that when a little girl 00:12:36.259 --> 00:12:38.559 and her father are moving into a new apartment, 00:12:38.620 --> 00:12:42.940 apartment 3B, the girl's father provides a birthday 00:12:42.940 --> 00:12:46.139 cake for that new apartment and tells the girl 00:12:46.139 --> 00:12:49.320 that she can make a wish, a wish for anything. 00:12:49.820 --> 00:12:51.980 When she questions this more her dad explains 00:12:51.980 --> 00:12:56.240 that she can make three wishes for anything and 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.879 so with some thought the girl begins to make 00:12:59.879 --> 00:13:03.279 her wishes. Her first wish is for a rainbow in 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:05.559 her room, which her father quickly gets to work 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:09.480 on painting a large rainbow across one of her 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:12.419 bedroom walls. Throughout the day the girl is 00:13:12.419 --> 00:13:16.720 considering her other possible wishes She decides 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:21.299 upon wishing for the biggest slice of pizza and 00:13:21.299 --> 00:13:25.759 that it is not Thursday, so it's not a bath day. 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:29.480 As the girl gets ready for bed, she's also wishing 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:32.740 that she could be back home in her old home in 00:13:32.740 --> 00:13:38.039 her old apartment, not in apartment 3B. When 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:40.120 she's startled awake by a passing fire truck, 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.580 she wishes that she could be home and her father 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.879 gives her a piggyback ride around the apartment 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:49.440 over and over again until she falls asleep. The 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:53.299 next morning she is ready for anything for breakfast 00:13:53.299 --> 00:13:56.940 and is finally beginning to settle into her new 00:13:56.940 --> 00:14:02.019 home and apartment 3B. I really enjoyed this 00:14:02.019 --> 00:14:06.320 story. I think it's a really sweet story. This 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:07.940 is something that a lot of people deal with that 00:14:07.940 --> 00:14:09.980 a lot of kids have to deal with. It's a hard 00:14:09.980 --> 00:14:13.340 thing to have. big changes like moving homes, 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:17.080 moving apartments. And this is a sweet way of 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:21.080 looking at it as the parent, the dad is trying 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:24.399 to help make the transition something that's 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:28.799 easier and special. And it's just a sweet story 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:32.500 of showing that father's love and care for his 00:14:32.500 --> 00:14:36.480 daughter and trying to help her make it through 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:39.559 this challenging time. So it's just, it's really 00:14:39.820 --> 00:14:43.200 Sweet and heartwarming story the pictures. I 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:45.820 love there's this very limited use of color throughout 00:14:45.820 --> 00:14:48.659 it There's a lot of white with black lines to 00:14:48.659 --> 00:14:51.639 make the pictures and the colors are coming only 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:56.740 when the wishes are happening and it just I love 00:14:56.740 --> 00:14:59.460 the sparse use of colors because when those colors 00:14:59.460 --> 00:15:02.159 really do pop up on the page They just jump out 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:06.190 at you so much to make it looks so warm and inviting 00:15:06.190 --> 00:15:09.809 and exciting. I really enjoyed the story a lot. 00:15:10.049 --> 00:15:13.629 I think this is a solid four out of five bookmarks. 00:15:14.289 --> 00:15:17.870 I think it's a really sweet story that a lot 00:15:17.870 --> 00:15:22.230 of students will like. And just that idea of 00:15:22.230 --> 00:15:25.289 being able to wish for anything. This girl kept 00:15:25.289 --> 00:15:30.490 it very grounded, which is Something that I don't 00:15:30.490 --> 00:15:33.009 know I feel like if I tried to give my kid like 00:15:33.009 --> 00:15:36.210 at that age Just be like yeah, you can have three 00:15:36.210 --> 00:15:38.649 wishes anything like that would have gotten out 00:15:38.649 --> 00:15:41.049 of hand really quick so the fact that this child 00:15:41.049 --> 00:15:43.169 was able to keep it kind of grounded and realistic, 00:15:43.169 --> 00:15:47.610 but at the same time kind of Have her imagination 00:15:47.610 --> 00:15:50.110 run wild at a little bit at the same time. It 00:15:50.110 --> 00:15:54.690 was just a sweet cute story That I really enjoyed 00:15:54.690 --> 00:15:57.090 and I think a lot of kids would really like it, 00:15:57.350 --> 00:16:01.279 too Think so too. It was really like you said 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:04.100 it's very heartwarming. I really liked it a lot 00:16:04.100 --> 00:16:07.139 I think it's gonna be especially good for any 00:16:07.139 --> 00:16:09.480 kid who's going through a particularly hard time. 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:14.940 This might be a really good one For like a counselor 00:16:14.940 --> 00:16:17.820 to have on hand or something like that where 00:16:17.820 --> 00:16:19.960 if there's a child that's kind of struggling 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:22.820 they can kind of Read it and relate to it and 00:16:22.820 --> 00:16:27.269 kind of know that they're gonna come back come 00:16:27.269 --> 00:16:29.330 through it okay, you know, it would be a good 00:16:29.330 --> 00:16:33.230 one for bibliotherapy. It's it would also make 00:16:33.230 --> 00:16:36.990 a great read aloud for the library as well. I 00:16:36.990 --> 00:16:40.169 think if it's a read aloud for the library, I 00:16:40.169 --> 00:16:43.429 agree, I would give it a four out of five. If 00:16:43.429 --> 00:16:46.870 it's like a one on one with a child who's going 00:16:46.870 --> 00:16:48.870 through something like this or just going through 00:16:48.870 --> 00:16:52.049 any kind of a hard time, because I know in the 00:16:52.049 --> 00:16:57.610 book, it's The difficulty is you know, but they're 00:16:57.610 --> 00:16:59.950 having to move and the little girl wants to go 00:16:59.950 --> 00:17:03.850 back to her old home and obviously she can't 00:17:03.850 --> 00:17:08.069 But I think that it could be you that you could 00:17:08.069 --> 00:17:11.210 really extend it to like anything where anything 00:17:11.210 --> 00:17:15.529 That's kind of difficult just knowing that you're 00:17:15.529 --> 00:17:17.789 gonna get through it You still have your people 00:17:17.789 --> 00:17:21.369 and your people still love you and you're gonna 00:17:21.369 --> 00:17:25.269 be okay And I was even as I was reading it, I 00:17:25.269 --> 00:17:27.710 was also wondering this might be something that 00:17:27.710 --> 00:17:30.170 you could even use it as a book about kind of 00:17:30.170 --> 00:17:34.470 loss also, because there's it seems like since 00:17:34.470 --> 00:17:37.930 it is just the daughter and the father, there 00:17:37.930 --> 00:17:40.710 might be a reason why they're in a new apartment. 00:17:41.029 --> 00:17:43.170 There might be it might be because of divorce. 00:17:43.170 --> 00:17:45.809 It might be because mom passed away. There could 00:17:45.809 --> 00:17:48.789 be lots of other reasons going on in that that 00:17:48.789 --> 00:17:51.390 aren't explicitly explained in the story so you 00:17:51.390 --> 00:17:54.309 could use this for like you said for a lot of 00:17:54.309 --> 00:17:57.869 a lot of different problems and challenges that 00:17:57.869 --> 00:17:59.869 students might be dealing with to kind of help 00:17:59.869 --> 00:18:02.769 them through that I think that using this especially 00:18:02.769 --> 00:18:04.789 if like you work with your counselor and using 00:18:04.789 --> 00:18:06.890 it that way would be an excellent way to use 00:18:06.890 --> 00:18:13.109 this book to help students out for sure so four 00:18:13.109 --> 00:18:17.049 out of five rating excellent as far as makerspace 00:18:17.049 --> 00:18:20.440 I was trying to come up with something to do 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:24.039 with this book and I Had two ideas. The first 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:25.859 one was kind of a cop -out a little bit. I'm 00:18:25.859 --> 00:18:27.740 gonna be up front I was like we could just do 00:18:27.740 --> 00:18:29.940 you could just have some materials out and just 00:18:29.940 --> 00:18:33.259 be like you get to build anything and then just 00:18:33.259 --> 00:18:37.059 let the kids kind of go crazy with it, but Realistically, 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.200 I like the idea at the beginning. The first thing 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:41.900 that comes to her mind is she wants a rainbow 00:18:41.900 --> 00:18:45.319 in her bedroom she wants to if she's gonna be 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:49.420 in a new place where She's not going to be able 00:18:49.420 --> 00:18:53.539 to go back to what she's used to. Kind of defining 00:18:53.539 --> 00:18:57.099 her space for herself by adding that rainbow 00:18:57.099 --> 00:18:59.559 to her bedroom was the very first thought she 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:02.160 had to make it something of her own. And so I 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:05.140 like that idea. So I would honestly give the 00:19:05.140 --> 00:19:08.269 kids the chance to. decorate their own room. 00:19:08.470 --> 00:19:10.890 Give them a sheet of paper, give them some colored 00:19:10.890 --> 00:19:13.089 pencils, some crayons, some markers, and let 00:19:13.089 --> 00:19:15.730 them go to town. If you could put anything on 00:19:15.730 --> 00:19:19.109 your bedroom walls to make your room yours, what 00:19:19.109 --> 00:19:22.910 would you do? And just let them come up with 00:19:22.910 --> 00:19:25.509 a design or a decoration that they would like 00:19:25.509 --> 00:19:28.630 to do in their own bedroom. Give them that opportunity 00:19:28.630 --> 00:19:31.710 to be creative and tell them you could do anything 00:19:31.710 --> 00:19:33.930 on your wall. So what would you do? And give 00:19:33.930 --> 00:19:37.609 them that chance to Draw out what their bedroom 00:19:37.609 --> 00:19:42.529 would look like If they got to decorate and design 00:19:42.529 --> 00:19:47.349 all of all of the room Yeah, because that's still 00:19:47.349 --> 00:19:49.509 it's still very much anything but it's still 00:19:49.509 --> 00:19:52.529 very related to the book Yeah, and it really 00:19:52.529 --> 00:19:54.890 gives the kids an opportunity to be exceptionally 00:19:54.890 --> 00:19:57.630 creative I love it when we can give the kids 00:19:57.630 --> 00:20:00.529 a little bit more creative control within reason 00:20:00.529 --> 00:20:04.259 like it's still very clear -cut instructions, 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:08.400 but really they get to do anything within those 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:12.440 instructions. So that's great. And you know, 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:15.779 like as long as you explain we're doing it on 00:20:15.779 --> 00:20:19.660 this paper, don't go home and do it on your wall. 00:20:19.940 --> 00:20:22.160 You can do it on the paper now, then it's all 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:27.720 good. So maybe make sure you define that really, 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:32.740 really well, just in case. That's true. I don't 00:20:32.740 --> 00:20:34.700 know, that might give some kids some ideas too 00:20:34.700 --> 00:20:37.160 though. That's a hard line. Yeah. Cause they 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:39.240 might not even think about it. They might, Oh, 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:45.220 I don't know. Either way is rough. Hmm. Well, 00:20:45.460 --> 00:20:48.599 there you go. So yeah, it could also just be 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:51.559 draw anything. It could be draw anything. I just 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:55.380 like the idea of like, she really wanted that, 00:20:55.380 --> 00:20:58.559 that rainbow on her wall. And I think a lot of 00:20:58.559 --> 00:21:02.450 kids. I think most kids, if you say, Hey, we 00:21:02.450 --> 00:21:04.970 can't go and draw on our walls. We can't put 00:21:04.970 --> 00:21:07.109 anything we want on our better malls. But if 00:21:07.109 --> 00:21:10.089 we could, what would you do? And then give them 00:21:10.089 --> 00:21:13.029 the paper and show you what they did. Most of 00:21:13.029 --> 00:21:15.210 them would take that as the, okay, you're right. 00:21:15.349 --> 00:21:18.289 I can't do this, but here's a way I can come 00:21:18.289 --> 00:21:23.529 up with an idea. So that'd be all right. All 00:21:23.529 --> 00:21:28.029 right. This week for our library of Littles management 00:21:28.029 --> 00:21:30.450 tip. we're gonna do something a little bit different. 00:21:31.049 --> 00:21:35.710 So as an elementary librarian, I have on my campus 00:21:35.710 --> 00:21:37.849 currently, we have pre -K through fifth grade. 00:21:38.069 --> 00:21:42.450 And so with the older kids, we do this with third, 00:21:42.549 --> 00:21:45.970 fourth and fifth grade. My school district has 00:21:45.970 --> 00:21:50.470 a book battle every year. And so the way the 00:21:50.470 --> 00:21:55.170 book battle works is that the year prior in the 00:21:55.170 --> 00:21:58.220 spring, the librarians work together, we come 00:21:58.220 --> 00:22:02.359 up with a list of 10 chapter books, 10 fiction 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:06.880 books that the students will then read throughout 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:10.519 the school year. Those 10 books, we base what 00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:12.359 we choose based on a couple different things. 00:22:12.380 --> 00:22:15.779 If they're on state lists, that helps. If they've 00:22:15.779 --> 00:22:18.440 won different kinds of awards, we try to make 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:22.099 them books that every campus already has one 00:22:22.099 --> 00:22:25.160 or two copies of because they're relatively new. 00:22:26.660 --> 00:22:28.460 We do a couple things like that just to make 00:22:28.460 --> 00:22:30.059 sure that we have a well -rounded list. We want 00:22:30.059 --> 00:22:32.740 to make sure that the books range in difficulty 00:22:32.740 --> 00:22:36.599 so that third through fifth grade can find them 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:40.960 to be good reads overall. And once we've made 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:43.559 that list, we introduce the 10 books at the beginning 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:45.599 of the school year. Students read them throughout. 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.099 We make them available throughout the school 00:22:48.099 --> 00:22:50.400 year. Our district is fortunate enough that they 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:53.960 can afford to buy 10 copies of each of the 10 00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:56.759 books, so 100 books for each of the elementary 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.339 campuses so that everyone has at least 10 copies 00:23:00.339 --> 00:23:04.180 of every book available to the students. The 00:23:04.180 --> 00:23:06.279 students have access to those books. There's 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:09.720 different ways, different campuses. Check out 00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:12.380 those books. Personally, I don't put them in 00:23:12.380 --> 00:23:16.200 our catalog. I have them on a separate counter 00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:18.680 and my students. There's a binder that they can 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:22.599 check out one book at a time. Sign out the book 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:24.460 with their name and what day they took it and 00:23:24.460 --> 00:23:26.299 they write it back when they when they return 00:23:26.299 --> 00:23:27.940 it They put the date they returned it kind of 00:23:27.940 --> 00:23:33.799 thing and then in the spring the students will 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:38.180 make teams of four students and Then those teams 00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:42.319 go up against other teams on the campus for a 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.480 campus book battle The way the campus book battle 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:48.940 works are is that the librarians throughout the 00:23:48.940 --> 00:23:52.539 fall? read through all the books and make multiple 00:23:52.539 --> 00:23:56.000 multiple questions for each of the 10 books and 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:01.420 then we make a they make a slide deck with different 00:24:01.420 --> 00:24:05.740 rounds of 20 questions and those questions are 00:24:05.740 --> 00:24:10.279 all set up with the framework of in what book 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:12.059 and then it gives you something that happens 00:24:12.059 --> 00:24:14.099 in one of the books and the students in their 00:24:14.099 --> 00:24:19.009 teams are given 10 sheets of paper on each of 00:24:19.009 --> 00:24:21.430 those sheets of paper is a title for one of the 00:24:21.430 --> 00:24:23.750 10 books. And they're given another 10 sheets 00:24:23.750 --> 00:24:26.809 of paper, and on each of those papers are the 00:24:26.809 --> 00:24:30.049 10 authors of the 10 books. And so when a question 00:24:30.049 --> 00:24:34.190 is posed, the students have 30 seconds to come 00:24:34.190 --> 00:24:36.730 up with the name of the book and the name of 00:24:36.730 --> 00:24:39.589 the author. If they get the name of the book 00:24:39.589 --> 00:24:41.990 correct, they earn five points. If they get the 00:24:41.990 --> 00:24:44.789 name of the author correct, they earn one point. 00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:48.920 And so they could earn between 0 and 6 points 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.839 for each question that's provided. In a round, 00:24:52.900 --> 00:24:55.980 there are 20 questions. And we have it pretty 00:24:55.980 --> 00:25:00.779 organized where we have a sheet for each team 00:25:00.779 --> 00:25:04.140 with what the question is, what the correct answer 00:25:04.140 --> 00:25:06.759 is, what they chose for an answer, how many points 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:10.460 they got, and then who the correct author is 00:25:10.460 --> 00:25:13.160 and what they chose for the correct author and 00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:14.720 how many points they got for that. And so we 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:17.670 can go through and As we're asking each question, 00:25:17.809 --> 00:25:21.509 we can have people recording those answers. And 00:25:21.509 --> 00:25:24.829 once we find a campus winner, those campus winners 00:25:24.829 --> 00:25:29.029 go to a district battle where they go up against 00:25:29.029 --> 00:25:31.009 all the other elementary campus winners to find 00:25:31.009 --> 00:25:35.650 a district book battle winner for the year. Now, 00:25:35.730 --> 00:25:38.809 I explain all of that in a lot of detail, but 00:25:38.809 --> 00:25:41.980 my idea. I'm going to try this. I think I'm going 00:25:41.980 --> 00:25:44.160 to try this this year because we've been reading 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:48.480 a lot of books with my kinder and first grade 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:50.039 students. So I think I'm going to try this this 00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:56.119 year. I want to do a mini book battle just to 00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:59.920 see how well the kids paid attention throughout 00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:01.539 the year and what they remember about the books. 00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:05.700 So this year I'm going to go back through the 00:26:05.700 --> 00:26:08.640 books that I've read with my classes, and I'm 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.039 going to make 20 questions about 10 books. So 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:16.140 basically two questions per book. I'm going to, 00:26:16.380 --> 00:26:19.700 instead of having the kids worry about the author 00:26:19.700 --> 00:26:22.539 and the title and matching those things, they're 00:26:22.539 --> 00:26:26.059 just going to get a picture of each of the 10 00:26:26.059 --> 00:26:28.220 books, the covers of those books. So they have 00:26:28.220 --> 00:26:31.579 a cover of the book and then split the class 00:26:31.579 --> 00:26:34.819 into Groups of four or five depending on how 00:26:34.819 --> 00:26:37.079 many kids there are that really if I split them 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:38.720 in groups of four That's probably five groups, 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:43.559 which is more than enough groups and then those 00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:45.400 groups will work together to try and answer the 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.980 question and when we ask a question they'll hold 00:26:47.980 --> 00:26:52.720 up whatever book cover they think matches with 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.119 the answer and I'm not gonna do it to necessarily 00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:59.500 keep score, but just kind of give them an opportunity 00:26:59.500 --> 00:27:01.920 to talk with each other about the books and see 00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:04.359 what they remember from the books that we've 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.779 read this year. I think it'll just be a fun experience 00:27:06.779 --> 00:27:10.740 for them. And it kind of starts to have them 00:27:10.740 --> 00:27:12.839 start thinking about whether when they get bigger, 00:27:12.900 --> 00:27:15.079 they might be interested in participating in 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:17.220 the bigger book battle where they have to read 00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:19.819 bigger books and pay a lot of attention to the 00:27:19.819 --> 00:27:21.880 details and that kind of thing. So I think we're 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:25.950 going to try that this year. I've got of May 00:27:25.950 --> 00:27:28.609 that I can prep for this and I think this is 00:27:28.609 --> 00:27:30.250 gonna be something that I'm gonna try out this 00:27:30.250 --> 00:27:32.630 year just to see how it turns out it might be 00:27:32.630 --> 00:27:36.190 a Enormous failure, but I think that it's gonna 00:27:36.190 --> 00:27:38.329 be fun. I think that a lot of the kids will actually 00:27:38.329 --> 00:27:40.569 I because I really do think that most of these 00:27:40.569 --> 00:27:44.109 kids Enjoy the stories and I know I've had so 00:27:44.109 --> 00:27:45.829 many kids come up this year and be like remember 00:27:45.829 --> 00:27:48.490 when we've read or Look what I found on the shelf. 00:27:48.490 --> 00:27:50.690 We read this earlier this year, you know, so 00:27:50.690 --> 00:27:55.250 I think a lot of the kids really do take in those 00:27:55.250 --> 00:27:58.369 books that you read and they might not remember 00:27:58.369 --> 00:28:00.690 every detail but they remember the general ideas 00:28:00.690 --> 00:28:03.130 and they remember how it makes them feel and 00:28:03.130 --> 00:28:05.910 I think that doing something like this will just 00:28:05.910 --> 00:28:11.109 be a fun way to to spend a class time in the 00:28:11.109 --> 00:28:14.130 library just as a something different if nothing 00:28:14.130 --> 00:28:16.130 else because we're getting close to the end of 00:28:16.130 --> 00:28:19.990 the year and having kids sit and listen to books 00:28:19.990 --> 00:28:24.990 for for the last couple weeks They know it's 00:28:24.990 --> 00:28:27.890 getting close to summer too. Sitting, expecting 00:28:27.890 --> 00:28:30.650 them to pay attention is challenging at times. 00:28:30.809 --> 00:28:33.470 So trying to come up with something new and different 00:28:33.470 --> 00:28:35.890 that will keep them entertained but still has 00:28:35.890 --> 00:28:37.750 something to do with books. I think this is what 00:28:37.750 --> 00:28:39.730 we're going to try. So I'm looking forward to 00:28:39.730 --> 00:28:43.269 trying this out and seeing how it turns out overall 00:28:43.269 --> 00:28:48.079 with my students. But that's my idea. Think that's 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.180 a great idea. I think that'll be a lot of fun. 00:28:50.180 --> 00:28:53.400 It's something different It's good way to kind 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:55.660 of review their knowledge and like you said it 00:28:55.660 --> 00:28:58.400 kind of since your campus already does that for 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:02.259 the Third fourth and fifth graders. Yeah, that's 00:29:02.259 --> 00:29:04.740 a great way to kind of introduce it and see if 00:29:04.740 --> 00:29:06.380 that's something that they would like to participate 00:29:06.380 --> 00:29:09.960 in later on because I think there might be some 00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:13.119 kids that maybe choose not to participate in 00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:14.779 it because they might think it's too much work 00:29:14.779 --> 00:29:17.019 or it's too hard or something that like introducing 00:29:17.019 --> 00:29:19.759 it this way kind of gives them some background 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.500 knowledge and what it is a little bit of experience 00:29:22.500 --> 00:29:24.759 with it and so they can kind of be like okay 00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:27.500 well it's not so scary it's not so much pressure 00:29:27.500 --> 00:29:32.359 it's just fun you know Great idea. Let me know 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.839 how that goes. I'm very interested I'm looking 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:36.700 forward to it. I get it. It's gonna take a couple 00:29:36.700 --> 00:29:39.059 weeks for me to prep everything That's the one 00:29:39.059 --> 00:29:41.880 thing it will take some time some prep work on 00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:44.839 the front end But I think it'll be worth it. 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.160 I think the kids are really gonna enjoy it. So 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:52.779 yeah, I'll let you know how it goes cool All 00:29:52.779 --> 00:29:57.059 right, well for our next book that we got from 00:29:57.059 --> 00:30:01.589 TLA we're going to talk about Earl and the Worm, 00:30:01.809 --> 00:30:05.609 the Bad Idea and Other Stories. This one is by 00:30:05.609 --> 00:30:09.430 Greg Pizzoli. He wrote it and illustrated it. 00:30:10.170 --> 00:30:13.029 We have talked about him on the podcast before, 00:30:13.109 --> 00:30:17.529 but he's a pretty prolific writer and has written 00:30:17.529 --> 00:30:20.690 and illustrated. Goodreads says that he's done 00:30:20.690 --> 00:30:23.470 over 50 children's books, so he's just kind of 00:30:23.470 --> 00:30:25.230 unavoidable and that's okay. So we're going to 00:30:25.230 --> 00:30:28.859 talk about him again. This particular book was 00:30:28.859 --> 00:30:33.539 published by Alfred A. Knopf in 2025, I believe 00:30:33.539 --> 00:30:37.859 in this month in April. It hasn't won any awards 00:30:37.859 --> 00:30:42.619 and it's not on any lists just yet. Greg Pizzoli 00:30:42.619 --> 00:30:45.579 went to school in Pennsylvania where he got his 00:30:45.579 --> 00:30:49.480 undergrad in English literature from Millersville 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:52.970 University after taking a couple of years off 00:30:52.970 --> 00:30:56.430 to volunteer for the AmeriCorps Volunteers in 00:30:56.430 --> 00:30:59.630 Service to America program. He got his master's 00:30:59.630 --> 00:31:04.490 in fine arts and fine art and book arts and printmaking 00:31:04.490 --> 00:31:06.829 from the University of Arts in Philadelphia. 00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:09.829 He is married to artist, teacher and author Kay 00:31:09.829 --> 00:31:12.150 Healy, and they have two daughters together and 00:31:12.150 --> 00:31:16.150 they currently live in South Philadelphia. Some 00:31:16.150 --> 00:31:19.009 of his other books, he's got lots, like you said, 00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:24.359 being credited for over 50 books. His first published 00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:28.640 book, The Watermelon Scene, won the Geisel Award 00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:33.700 in 2013. He's won the Geisel honor two more times 00:31:33.700 --> 00:31:38.400 since then for Good Night Owl and The Book Hog. 00:31:40.430 --> 00:31:44.589 Earl and Worm number two, The Big Mess and Other 00:31:44.589 --> 00:31:48.210 Stories comes out in July of this year. And Earl 00:31:48.210 --> 00:31:52.970 and Worm number three, Snow Problem and Other 00:31:52.970 --> 00:31:57.450 Stories comes out in November of this year. Yeah, 00:31:57.450 --> 00:32:01.329 so this book series, Earl and Worm is kind of 00:32:01.329 --> 00:32:05.569 a, it looks like it's a new early reader book 00:32:05.569 --> 00:32:07.819 series. Well, it's going to be a book series 00:32:07.819 --> 00:32:10.180 anyway. In July, it'll be officially a series, 00:32:10.180 --> 00:32:12.740 I suppose. But it's kind of in the vein of elephant 00:32:12.740 --> 00:32:16.099 and piggy. So for this particular book, Worm 00:32:16.099 --> 00:32:19.119 is disgruntled when Earl the bird moves in next 00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:23.339 door. Earl is cheerful, outgoing and loud, everything 00:32:23.339 --> 00:32:27.039 that Worm is not. After a while, Earl wins Worm 00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.460 over and they become best friends. And this book 00:32:29.460 --> 00:32:32.559 chronicles the origin of their friendship and 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.119 it has two following stories in it. And it's 00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.200 pretty much, the title kind of says it all. It's 00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:41.519 the bad idea and other stories. So it's a total 00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:46.079 of three stories wrapped in one. It has all of 00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:48.980 Greg Pizzoli's signature, you know, dry wit and 00:32:48.980 --> 00:32:51.519 humor in it, which I think is really entertaining 00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:55.240 for adults reading the book. It has certain things 00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.039 like, I, it took me reading this two times to 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.900 realize it was Earl the bird, like he's an early 00:33:01.900 --> 00:33:04.480 bird. And I was like, oh my. goodness, I should 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.400 have noticed that sooner, but I really didn't 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:12.559 because he never says Earl the bird felt foolish 00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.779 anyway. But it has a little little things like 00:33:16.779 --> 00:33:20.599 that kind of sprinkled in there. So it's pretty 00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.180 entertaining, I think, for adults and for kids. 00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:28.490 It has all of that signature Illustrative style 00:33:28.490 --> 00:33:31.269 of like the bold colors the lots of straight 00:33:31.269 --> 00:33:34.670 lines. It makes it really defined and kind of 00:33:34.670 --> 00:33:37.630 easy to See all the pictures because it's still 00:33:37.630 --> 00:33:41.849 got a mostly like white background with those 00:33:41.849 --> 00:33:46.289 bright colors really defined shapes kind of makes 00:33:46.289 --> 00:33:49.690 it easy for kids to Imitate the pictures and 00:33:49.690 --> 00:33:52.049 kind of become artists themselves and kind of 00:33:52.049 --> 00:33:56.859 expand upon that really Simple text, I like that 00:33:56.859 --> 00:33:59.920 it's broken up into three stories. I think this 00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:05.140 one would be kind of a good introduction to like 00:34:05.140 --> 00:34:07.900 chapter books. I think you could get away with 00:34:07.900 --> 00:34:11.519 calling it a chapter book for pre -k and just 00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.500 saying you're gonna, because it is kind of long 00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:17.219 since it is three stories, but it's simple enough 00:34:17.219 --> 00:34:20.380 that I think you could do it pretty easily within 00:34:20.380 --> 00:34:23.840 like, you know, Seven or eight minutes like a 00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:25.539 read aloud it within seven or eight minutes as 00:34:25.539 --> 00:34:27.480 long as you don't you know Stop a whole lot. 00:34:27.500 --> 00:34:31.599 Just kind of keep going so I think it would hold 00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.480 the kids attention for a while and If it doesn't 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:38.800 if you feel like you read the first story and 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:40.599 you can tell that they need to move You could 00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.179 just stop it there, but I think reading with 00:34:43.179 --> 00:34:45.679 this this with the whole class I would do it 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:49.739 toward the end of the year and I would Call it 00:34:49.739 --> 00:34:52.280 a chapter book and explain that there are books 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.639 that are longer that have chapters that are just 00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:58.239 parts of stories where you can just read a little 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.440 bit and kind of you know, there's kind of not 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.780 a break but you know there's a kind of a clean 00:35:04.780 --> 00:35:08.659 cut spot to stop and come back to it later cuz 00:35:08.659 --> 00:35:11.920 some books are longer and some books you know 00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.559 grown up books you have to you can't sit read 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.400 all in one sitting so i think this would be a 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.320 good way to kind of introduce that. Could it 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.440 also use it as like an introduction to graphic 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.900 novels because of the way it's written? There's 00:35:23.900 --> 00:35:26.880 no word bubbles or anything in it, but just with 00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:33.440 the way it's written with kind of the text Over 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:36.280 the pictures like it is. I think it would be 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.300 and Like the picture telling so much of the story 00:35:39.300 --> 00:35:42.300 I think it would be a good introduction to graphic 00:35:42.300 --> 00:35:44.679 novels if you wanted to use it like that Like 00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.670 a very early introduction to it But I really 00:35:47.670 --> 00:35:51.510 enjoyed it. It has lots of kind of social and 00:35:51.510 --> 00:35:54.789 emotional learning with Earl and Worm because 00:35:54.789 --> 00:35:57.590 they don't get along. Well, really, Earl gets 00:35:57.590 --> 00:36:00.030 along with Worm. It's Worm that doesn't want 00:36:00.030 --> 00:36:04.170 to get along with Earl at first. So you could 00:36:04.170 --> 00:36:06.130 have a lot of social -emotional discussions with 00:36:06.130 --> 00:36:09.730 that. I enjoyed this one a lot. I mean, everything 00:36:09.730 --> 00:36:13.329 Greg Pizzoli does is kind of funny. It has lots 00:36:13.329 --> 00:36:17.570 of... that social and emotional aspect to it. 00:36:18.130 --> 00:36:22.090 Yeah, I think it'll be a good one. I agree with 00:36:22.090 --> 00:36:24.150 you. I think this was a great story. I really 00:36:24.150 --> 00:36:28.550 enjoyed it. I connected with Worm so much because 00:36:28.550 --> 00:36:33.670 Worm is just like, people, which is a feeling. 00:36:34.030 --> 00:36:38.650 It's true. It's just, and so I like, I was just 00:36:38.650 --> 00:36:40.869 right there with him like, yes, why is this bird 00:36:40.869 --> 00:36:44.369 just bugging him? It was just a sweet, it's a 00:36:44.369 --> 00:36:48.010 very cute, fun story. I really enjoyed it. And 00:36:48.010 --> 00:36:51.409 like we've said, Greg Pizzoli has just that great 00:36:51.409 --> 00:36:56.369 sense of humor, where, you know, he can be sarcastic 00:36:56.369 --> 00:36:59.989 and, and have just a good time and be fun. And 00:36:59.989 --> 00:37:02.030 so this is, I agree with you, this is a great 00:37:02.030 --> 00:37:05.949 book. I love the idea. I definitely think that 00:37:05.949 --> 00:37:08.429 this is the kind of book that you're gonna have 00:37:08.429 --> 00:37:11.429 kids that are like, I want that book because 00:37:11.429 --> 00:37:15.690 I'm a big kid, I can read this book. And so it's 00:37:15.690 --> 00:37:18.789 like that early, like you said, early chapter 00:37:18.789 --> 00:37:20.469 book kind of thing where it's like, this book 00:37:20.469 --> 00:37:23.369 has three books in it. This is three stories. 00:37:24.090 --> 00:37:25.969 We'll really grab a lot of kids' attention to 00:37:25.969 --> 00:37:28.550 be like, ooh, I can be like one of the big kids 00:37:28.550 --> 00:37:30.750 and I can have a book that has more than one 00:37:30.750 --> 00:37:34.010 part to it kind of thing. But while keeping the 00:37:34.010 --> 00:37:38.920 text at that simplistic, appropriate for younger 00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:44.099 students. I love that. He's his books are always 00:37:44.099 --> 00:37:47.219 so clean in that the words don't come over the 00:37:47.219 --> 00:37:49.260 pictures. There's always like that blank space 00:37:49.260 --> 00:37:52.420 on the page where the where the text is separated 00:37:52.420 --> 00:37:55.539 from the rest from the rest of the image so that 00:37:55.539 --> 00:37:58.880 you can clearly see what's going on in the pictures 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:03.949 and it's just he does such a great job and. I 00:38:03.949 --> 00:38:05.610 agree with you. I think this is going to be one 00:38:05.610 --> 00:38:07.309 of those books that lots of kids are going to 00:38:07.309 --> 00:38:12.429 enjoy reading. It's a great one to introduce 00:38:12.429 --> 00:38:15.710 some of those beginning chapter book concepts 00:38:15.710 --> 00:38:21.230 to them. So yeah, I agree. For the makerspace 00:38:21.230 --> 00:38:25.250 activity for this book, I'm not gonna lie, I 00:38:25.250 --> 00:38:26.849 kind of struggled with it a little bit because 00:38:26.849 --> 00:38:31.110 a lot of it, this particular story is just Earl 00:38:31.110 --> 00:38:35.650 and Worm. Kind of learning to get along and being 00:38:35.650 --> 00:38:39.389 good friends Which is great. It just doesn't 00:38:39.389 --> 00:38:42.010 lend itself to a particular makerspace all that 00:38:42.010 --> 00:38:46.070 well But the very last story in it is called 00:38:46.070 --> 00:38:51.469 the poem and in the poem Worm is writing a poem 00:38:51.469 --> 00:38:54.969 at her desk and she kind of struggles to Finish 00:38:54.969 --> 00:38:59.050 the poem and in the end she ends up making the 00:38:59.050 --> 00:39:03.530 poem for Earl. So I think a fun thing to do at 00:39:03.530 --> 00:39:07.010 the very end of this book would be to have the 00:39:07.010 --> 00:39:12.130 kids draw a picture or write something. I know 00:39:12.130 --> 00:39:14.369 with pre -k most of them can't write yet and 00:39:14.369 --> 00:39:16.610 that's okay. They're still learning but I think 00:39:16.610 --> 00:39:19.369 maybe telling them that they can draw a picture 00:39:19.369 --> 00:39:24.469 for a friend or a picture for a teacher or a 00:39:24.469 --> 00:39:27.889 parent. anybody else really I might encourage 00:39:27.889 --> 00:39:30.710 them to draw a picture for a friend in particular 00:39:30.710 --> 00:39:34.750 because just because the book is about two friends 00:39:34.750 --> 00:39:39.050 but I think I would just encourage them to write 00:39:39.050 --> 00:39:42.530 it for anybody at all and just have them draw 00:39:42.530 --> 00:39:44.949 a picture do something kind for somebody else 00:39:44.949 --> 00:39:48.409 since kindness and getting along with others 00:39:48.409 --> 00:39:51.230 is kind of a central theme of it I think that's 00:39:51.230 --> 00:39:54.170 what I would do it for a makerspace Just do crayons. 00:39:54.590 --> 00:39:56.750 I guess we got we're we're all about drawing 00:39:56.750 --> 00:39:59.449 today on this particular episode, aren't we? 00:39:59.630 --> 00:40:03.269 Yeah But yeah, that's okay Something for somebody 00:40:03.269 --> 00:40:07.349 else really enjoy doing so they do. Yeah they 00:40:07.349 --> 00:40:10.489 do and it's important for fine motor skills and 00:40:10.489 --> 00:40:13.349 Creativity and all that all the things it's always 00:40:13.349 --> 00:40:18.429 good. So Absolutely. I love that idea that that'll 00:40:18.429 --> 00:40:22.599 be a good one Thank you all for joining us today 00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.440 on this episode of Librarians of Littles. We 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.800 hope you found some fresh ideas for inspiring 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.760 our young readers. Please be sure to subscribe 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.380 and connect with us on social media. Happy reading! 00:40:34.019 --> 00:40:36.860 Thank you for listening to this episode of Librarians 00:40:36.860 --> 00:40:39.699 of Littles. We hope that you've enjoyed it. Check 00:40:39.699 --> 00:40:44.099 back each Wednesday for a new episode. 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