WEBVTT

00:00:20.550 --> 00:00:24.670
Hello, I'm Patrick Adams. And I'm Caroline Lashir.

00:00:24.859 --> 00:00:27.780
And this is Librarians of Littles, a podcast

00:00:27.780 --> 00:00:30.539
where we review picture books, include makerspace

00:00:30.539 --> 00:00:33.820
ideas, and give tips and tricks for working with

00:00:33.820 --> 00:00:36.060
our youngest learners in the library setting.

00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:40.280
Today, we have two wonderful books to share,

00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:43.560
both of them coming from the Texas 2x2 list,

00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:45.960
a list that encourages children from the ages

00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:49.039
of two to second grade to read as many books

00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:51.950
as possible. Each year, the Texas Library Association

00:00:51.950 --> 00:00:54.829
comes up with this list of 20 wonderful books

00:00:54.829 --> 00:00:58.630
to share with young readers. Our first book today

00:00:58.630 --> 00:01:02.789
is titled Boop. It is published by Harper's Collins

00:01:02.789 --> 00:01:07.870
in 2023. The author is Bea Birdsong and the illustrator

00:01:07.870 --> 00:01:12.129
is Lindsay Hunter. As stated, this is a book

00:01:12.129 --> 00:01:17.170
that is on the Texas 2x2 Award List for 2024.

00:01:17.659 --> 00:01:20.659
Bee Birdsong is a former teacher. She lives in

00:01:20.659 --> 00:01:23.500
North Carolina with her husband, son, and rescue

00:01:23.500 --> 00:01:27.000
dog. She also does school visits. Some of her

00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:31.060
other books include I Will Be Fierce, illustrated

00:01:31.060 --> 00:01:36.900
by Nidhi Chanani, Sam's First Word, illustrated

00:01:36.900 --> 00:01:41.439
by Holly Hatem, How to Spot a Best Friend, illustrated

00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:45.879
by Lucy Fleming, and Goat is the Goat, illustrated

00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:49.959
by Kelly Murphy. And the illustrator, Lindsay

00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:52.379
Hunter, is an award -winning Scottish author,

00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:55.340
illustrator, and hand lettering artist based

00:01:55.340 --> 00:01:58.599
in Peckham, London, UK. She creates illustrations

00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:02.560
and hand lettering art for many different mediums,

00:02:02.780 --> 00:02:06.140
including magazines, toys, packaging, and advertising

00:02:06.140 --> 00:02:11.159
campaigns. And she has worked with the BBC, Nike,

00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:15.610
Hallmark, and Macy, just to name a few. Some

00:02:15.610 --> 00:02:19.069
of her other books include What If Pig, written

00:02:19.069 --> 00:02:21.909
and illustrated by herself, Lindsay Hunter, Little

00:02:21.909 --> 00:02:25.009
People Big Dreams, written by Astrid Lindgren,

00:02:25.810 --> 00:02:29.210
If You Had a Jet Pack, written by Lissell H.

00:02:29.449 --> 00:02:33.750
Deddelfson, and How to Write a Great Story, written

00:02:33.750 --> 00:02:37.830
by Carolyn Lawrence. And to get into the story,

00:02:37.969 --> 00:02:41.689
the book Boop is a cute story of many dogs and

00:02:41.689 --> 00:02:44.530
their snoots getting booped. This book introduces

00:02:44.530 --> 00:02:47.330
the concept of a snoot on a dog and how to boop

00:02:47.330 --> 00:02:51.150
it. It's a rhyming story with many dogs with

00:02:51.150 --> 00:02:55.150
snoots ready for booping. I really enjoyed this

00:02:55.150 --> 00:02:57.889
book. I am a huge dog lover. I have two dogs

00:02:57.889 --> 00:03:01.229
of my own, and I just thought that this was just

00:03:01.229 --> 00:03:05.710
a fun story for kids to read. There is rhyming

00:03:05.710 --> 00:03:08.310
that's going on. The illustrations are so fun

00:03:08.310 --> 00:03:11.270
and cute with all the different dogs, the different

00:03:11.270 --> 00:03:14.409
types, the different shapes and sizes of the

00:03:14.409 --> 00:03:17.750
dogs. and all of the dogs wanting their snoots

00:03:17.750 --> 00:03:20.949
to be booped. It just brought a huge smile to

00:03:20.949 --> 00:03:23.789
my face as I was reading through it and I've

00:03:23.789 --> 00:03:25.849
really enjoyed it and I'm looking forward to

00:03:25.849 --> 00:03:29.050
sharing it with my students because I know how

00:03:29.050 --> 00:03:32.449
much these kids love dogs and really just any

00:03:32.449 --> 00:03:36.430
kind of animal honestly. Most of these kids are

00:03:36.430 --> 00:03:39.310
very much animal people so dogs, cats, whatever

00:03:39.310 --> 00:03:41.349
they love them all and I just think that this

00:03:41.349 --> 00:03:46.900
book is So much fun. I do also love that there

00:03:46.900 --> 00:03:49.860
is a page at the beginning that Explains, you

00:03:49.860 --> 00:03:52.879
know, even though you love dogs You need to make

00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:55.759
sure that you speak with your adults and the

00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:00.479
dogs adults before you ever approach a dog You

00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:05.280
know, we don't want anyone to get hurt because

00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.439
a kid is just running up to a strange dog and

00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.139
trying to pet it So an important warning to say

00:04:11.139 --> 00:04:13.180
hey make sure it's okay with your adults, make

00:04:13.180 --> 00:04:15.539
sure it's okay with the dog's adults before ever

00:04:15.539 --> 00:04:18.420
approaching a dog touching it. Super important.

00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:23.339
But I just thought that this was a sweet and

00:04:23.339 --> 00:04:26.779
cute story and I love that the one dog that's

00:04:26.779 --> 00:04:30.180
on the cover kind of is in every single picture

00:04:30.180 --> 00:04:36.720
just wanting additional boops of his snoot. It's

00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:40.259
just such a cute story. Like I said, it just

00:04:40.259 --> 00:04:42.459
made me smile the whole time I was reading it.

00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:44.360
And if nothing else, I think that my students

00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:46.899
will enjoy it because of my enthusiasm while

00:04:46.899 --> 00:04:50.420
reading it because it's just such a cute and

00:04:50.420 --> 00:04:53.420
whimsical story. The illustrations are just so

00:04:53.420 --> 00:04:56.839
bright and engaging. I love the whole thing.

00:04:57.420 --> 00:04:59.860
The story itself, I think it's a little simplistic,

00:04:59.860 --> 00:05:05.819
but I still think that it is a fun read for the

00:05:05.819 --> 00:05:08.180
students. I think that it will be so much fun

00:05:08.180 --> 00:05:10.980
to read out loud and to kind of get the kids

00:05:10.980 --> 00:05:13.620
to go along on the journey with me as we read

00:05:13.620 --> 00:05:17.259
through the story. So I'm going to say that this

00:05:17.259 --> 00:05:21.480
is at least a four and a half out of five bookmarks.

00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:24.600
I'm thinking like at least four and a half, maybe

00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:29.779
five just because it's so much fun. I think that's

00:05:29.779 --> 00:05:31.920
fair. I thought I really liked the story a lot.

00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:35.240
i'm glad you mentioned about the disclaimer at

00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:37.060
the beginning because that was my only concern

00:05:37.060 --> 00:05:39.079
when i was reading it i was like okay kids are

00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:40.819
going to go to weird dogs they're going to touch

00:05:40.819 --> 00:05:44.879
them but no that's i i think that's uh i loved

00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.100
that they talked about having you know talking

00:05:47.100 --> 00:05:50.360
to your big people about um asking for permission

00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:52.639
first before touching a real life dog and i think

00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:54.379
another fun thing to do with this book would

00:05:54.379 --> 00:05:56.560
be to have everybody bring in like a little stuffed

00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:00.269
animal and um so they could boop the snoots on

00:06:00.269 --> 00:06:03.529
their little stuffies. And if they have a dog

00:06:03.529 --> 00:06:06.410
stuffed animal, great. That's a fun one to use.

00:06:07.009 --> 00:06:10.410
But I mean, really, it could be any kind of stuffy.

00:06:10.529 --> 00:06:12.290
I think that would be a fun addition to that

00:06:12.290 --> 00:06:15.649
and kind of having the kids read with their stuffed

00:06:15.649 --> 00:06:18.089
animals. I think they would really, really enjoy

00:06:18.089 --> 00:06:20.569
that. And then you could always bring in a couple

00:06:20.569 --> 00:06:23.610
of your own. If the kids don't have any with

00:06:23.610 --> 00:06:27.889
them, you could always use puppets or any of

00:06:27.889 --> 00:06:30.149
your displays around the library or anything

00:06:30.149 --> 00:06:33.670
else that you have lying around to kind of make

00:06:33.670 --> 00:06:35.490
it a little bit more engaging and let the kids

00:06:35.490 --> 00:06:38.509
interact with that a little bit more. So I agree.

00:06:38.689 --> 00:06:41.670
It was a super cute book and I love how interactive

00:06:41.670 --> 00:06:45.269
it was. I really enjoyed it a lot. Excellent

00:06:45.269 --> 00:06:49.120
choice. Thank you. I mean, the Texas Library

00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.519
Association, they picked a banger with this one.

00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.279
It's a great story. I really loved it. And I

00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:56.379
love that idea of having the kids bring in like

00:06:56.379 --> 00:06:59.379
a stuffy so that they can all boot the snoots.

00:06:59.740 --> 00:07:05.720
That's a great idea. And a makerspace activity,

00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:08.959
materials that you might need for this makerspace

00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.600
activity, pretty simplistic, those pattern blocks

00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:14.699
that like every single campus always has those

00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:18.300
yellow hexagons and the green triangles, the

00:07:18.300 --> 00:07:20.680
orange squares, the red trapezoids, those blue

00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:23.879
parallelograms and the tan rhombuses. You could

00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:26.079
also, if you wanted, you could stop there. But

00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:28.500
if you, if you wanted to go a little further,

00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:30.660
you could have a picture map with a pre -made

00:07:30.660 --> 00:07:34.379
image. But my idea is to take, to give those

00:07:34.379 --> 00:07:36.720
kids those pattern blocks and have them make

00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:39.720
their own dog or make their own other kind of

00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:43.759
a pet using the pattern blocks to build. their

00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.680
animal. In our book it shows different types

00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:48.339
of dogs so they were different shapes and different

00:07:48.339 --> 00:07:51.439
sizes and different colors so the kids can use

00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:55.019
those as ideas but then they get to build their

00:07:55.019 --> 00:07:58.100
own and we can kind of look at how every student

00:07:58.100 --> 00:08:00.579
makes theirs a little bit different and kind

00:08:00.579 --> 00:08:02.459
of unique just like all the students and all

00:08:02.459 --> 00:08:06.819
the dogs in the book. Yeah I love that it kind

00:08:06.819 --> 00:08:08.839
of gives the kids a little bit of creativity

00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:11.959
and takes some ownership over the story as well.

00:08:12.100 --> 00:08:15.839
Yeah. Yeah, that's great. And did you see online

00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:18.560
too, there was a story kit on the author's website

00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.019
that has like pre -made, yeah, there's like pre

00:08:22.019 --> 00:08:24.120
-made patterns on there that like you could,

00:08:24.540 --> 00:08:27.000
it was for, to make the puppets from the book,

00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:28.939
but it was like, it's the kind of puppets that

00:08:28.939 --> 00:08:31.980
you just cut out and you put on a popsicle stick,

00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:35.159
not like, not like paper bag puppets, but like

00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:38.779
the popsicle stick kind. So yeah, that would

00:08:38.779 --> 00:08:41.980
be a fun one to kind of, not the story needs

00:08:41.980 --> 00:08:44.529
like, particular reenactment you could probably

00:08:44.529 --> 00:08:46.590
reenact it with just like any of the stuffies

00:08:46.590 --> 00:08:49.490
or puppets or whatever you've got but to have

00:08:49.490 --> 00:08:54.250
the actual um illustrations from the story that's

00:08:54.250 --> 00:08:56.149
awesome that you could kind of act out too that

00:08:56.149 --> 00:08:58.830
was fun so we'll make sure that we include the

00:08:58.830 --> 00:09:01.830
author's website in the show notes so if anybody's

00:09:01.830 --> 00:09:03.610
interested in going there and finding those they

00:09:03.610 --> 00:09:07.190
can go through our show notes and it'll be linked

00:09:07.190 --> 00:09:11.769
in the description there we go cool I know we

00:09:11.769 --> 00:09:14.549
didn't really have anything down for management.

00:09:15.190 --> 00:09:16.929
Does that sound like an okay management tip?

00:09:16.929 --> 00:09:19.110
Or is that kind of? Yes, I think this is a good

00:09:19.110 --> 00:09:24.110
idea. Sometimes I don't know if it's too obvious.

00:09:24.750 --> 00:09:27.330
Well, here's my thought on that. My thought is

00:09:27.330 --> 00:09:31.389
that it's obvious to us because we've been doing

00:09:31.389 --> 00:09:34.470
it for so long. That's true. But we have a lot

00:09:34.470 --> 00:09:36.509
of, especially in the state of Texas, we have

00:09:36.509 --> 00:09:41.460
a lot of librarians that are kind of being thrust

00:09:41.460 --> 00:09:44.100
into working with Pre -K. That's a good point.

00:09:44.379 --> 00:09:46.779
And haven't had that experience before. So even

00:09:46.779 --> 00:09:49.799
if it seems obvious to us, I feel like sometimes

00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:53.659
going with the obvious because it's not obvious

00:09:53.659 --> 00:09:55.960
to everybody else is a good thing. I think it's

00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:58.000
a good idea. So I like this management tip. That's

00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.220
a good point. So let's go with it. All right.

00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:05.320
Okay, so today for our Librarians of Littles

00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:07.259
management tip, we're going to be talking about

00:10:07.259 --> 00:10:11.639
defined seating for students. A lot of our younger

00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:13.820
learners, our pre -k and kindergartners, they

00:10:13.820 --> 00:10:17.899
are still learning really everything and they

00:10:17.899 --> 00:10:20.460
are learning where their body is in space, which

00:10:20.460 --> 00:10:24.179
is kind of a hard concept to teach and it can

00:10:24.179 --> 00:10:26.139
be kind of a difficult thing to learn depending

00:10:26.139 --> 00:10:29.720
on the student and their life experiences and

00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:34.519
any of their Needs so I think both of our libraries

00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:38.039
We both have a colorful rug with squares to kind

00:10:38.039 --> 00:10:41.399
of show students where to sit when we're first

00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.980
learning how to sit in the library I kind of

00:10:43.980 --> 00:10:47.299
point out where the squares are on the rug and

00:10:47.299 --> 00:10:50.480
kind of noted have the kids notice like okay

00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.179
My spot is orange I'm gonna keep my body in the

00:10:53.179 --> 00:10:54.899
orange and I don't really care how they're sitting

00:10:54.899 --> 00:10:58.469
as long as they're kind of in the orange Somewhere

00:10:58.469 --> 00:11:00.570
and they're not sitting on their feet just so

00:11:00.570 --> 00:11:03.129
the kids behind them can see because a lot of

00:11:03.129 --> 00:11:06.289
kids will tend to sit like they'll sit like crisscross

00:11:06.289 --> 00:11:08.870
but like up on their feet kind of kind of so

00:11:08.870 --> 00:11:10.950
that they're like higher up and that makes it

00:11:10.950 --> 00:11:12.909
so that the kids behind them can't see so i do

00:11:12.909 --> 00:11:15.429
tell them they have to sit sit flat so that people

00:11:15.429 --> 00:11:18.070
behind them can see the book and kind of experience

00:11:18.070 --> 00:11:20.570
everything but then that colorful rug just makes

00:11:20.570 --> 00:11:23.379
it so that. the kids can kind of see where their

00:11:23.379 --> 00:11:25.779
body needs to be in space so they can kind of

00:11:25.779 --> 00:11:28.139
share their space a little bit better. For our

00:11:28.139 --> 00:11:30.659
kids who need a little bit more help with that

00:11:30.659 --> 00:11:33.419
we have something called cube chairs in our libraries.

00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.980
The cube chairs are about 18 inches by 18 inches

00:11:37.980 --> 00:11:40.700
by 18 inches and it's exactly like it sounds.

00:11:41.059 --> 00:11:43.879
It's just a chair, it's a colorful chair that's

00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:47.519
shaped just like a cube and it's incredibly durable.

00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:50.899
I think I've been using the same one for like

00:11:50.899 --> 00:11:55.539
the ones in my library I know are at least this

00:11:55.539 --> 00:11:58.759
is my 17th year working with pre -k kids and

00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.820
it's the same chairs that I've been using for

00:12:01.820 --> 00:12:04.679
17 years they're ridiculous they're kind of expensive

00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.960
I think it's like a hundred dollars a chair but

00:12:08.139 --> 00:12:11.960
It's lasted for 17 years and they're going strong.

00:12:12.659 --> 00:12:15.200
Sometimes if kids get a little bit too wiggly

00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:17.279
on the chair, kind of push up with their legs.

00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.259
You can, if you really need to, put Velcro on

00:12:20.259 --> 00:12:23.320
the bottom of it with the kind of rougher side

00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.620
and it'll stick to carpet really well. That doesn't

00:12:26.620 --> 00:12:29.139
stick to rugs very well at all, but it sticks

00:12:29.139 --> 00:12:32.259
to carpet ridiculously well to the point where

00:12:32.259 --> 00:12:34.120
you have to like kick it up. So if you need the

00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:36.659
chair to like stay down because the kid is like...

00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:38.799
Kind of pushing back on their chair too much

00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:40.559
and it's like dangerous for them. They might

00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:43.980
fall back and hit their head. You can put that

00:12:43.980 --> 00:12:46.379
rough side of the Velcro down on that so that

00:12:46.379 --> 00:12:49.259
they kind of stay. Their chair stays down and

00:12:49.259 --> 00:12:52.960
the kids can stay safe and they have their own

00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.379
very well defined space so that they can kind

00:12:56.379 --> 00:12:59.379
of keep their learn to keep their hands to themselves

00:12:59.379 --> 00:13:01.740
and really stay in their own space so that they

00:13:01.740 --> 00:13:03.320
can attend to the story a little bit better.

00:13:04.070 --> 00:13:06.870
I completely agree with you having that defined

00:13:06.870 --> 00:13:11.269
seating space, whether it's like an assigned

00:13:11.269 --> 00:13:13.710
spot on the carpet or just that they stay in

00:13:13.710 --> 00:13:15.590
their own square, whatever square they end up

00:13:15.590 --> 00:13:20.590
on on the carpet, absolutely. That's definitely

00:13:20.590 --> 00:13:23.809
important for those students. The only other

00:13:23.809 --> 00:13:26.309
thing I might add is that I do, like I let my

00:13:26.309 --> 00:13:29.210
kids sit. almost any way they want on the carpet.

00:13:29.289 --> 00:13:31.710
Like you said, not sitting up on their feet or

00:13:31.710 --> 00:13:33.750
on their knees because people behind them. But

00:13:33.750 --> 00:13:35.690
I also, the one other thing that I don't let

00:13:35.690 --> 00:13:37.509
my kids do is a lot of the kids want to do that

00:13:37.509 --> 00:13:40.769
W sit where their knees are kind of bent back.

00:13:41.009 --> 00:13:42.429
And that's the one other one there. And I'm like,

00:13:42.429 --> 00:13:43.950
I can't have you sitting that way. I don't want

00:13:43.950 --> 00:13:46.029
you to mess up your knees. Being as old as I

00:13:46.029 --> 00:13:48.590
am, it just hurts my knees just to look at it.

00:13:48.649 --> 00:13:52.490
But I also just, it's not good for the kids'

00:13:52.690 --> 00:13:56.159
legs. And so that's the one other. thing about

00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:57.820
sitting that I don't let my kids do they can

00:13:57.820 --> 00:14:00.299
if they want to sit with their legs to the side

00:14:00.299 --> 00:14:02.440
or something like that I'm totally okay with

00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:03.639
that as long as they're staying in their own

00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.200
space that visual that square that they're sitting

00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.940
on or the circle or whatever shape your carpet

00:14:09.940 --> 00:14:14.519
has it's just it's so helpful for them to see

00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:17.799
a boundary because otherwise they're they will

00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:19.820
they'll just kind of climb on top of each other

00:14:19.820 --> 00:14:23.740
half the time um and then the cube chairs are

00:14:23.740 --> 00:14:26.080
amazing and they The cool thing about the cube

00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:29.700
chairs is that they have two different, like

00:14:29.700 --> 00:14:31.659
you can flip it over. So there's like a higher

00:14:31.659 --> 00:14:33.100
side where they set up a little bit more. And

00:14:33.100 --> 00:14:34.620
then there's the lower side where they're kind

00:14:34.620 --> 00:14:38.899
of in the chair a little bit more. And then for

00:14:38.899 --> 00:14:41.440
even another substantial cost, I'm sure they've

00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:43.700
got those trays that can go over it so that they

00:14:43.700 --> 00:14:45.840
can sit in that chair and have. if they need

00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.720
like a fidget or something in that tray kind

00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:50.840
of helps give a little bit even more defined

00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.740
space if needed for some of our kids and or that

00:14:54.740 --> 00:14:56.500
just gives them a surface that they can work

00:14:56.500 --> 00:14:59.480
at. And the cube chairs are amazing and they

00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:03.019
are incredibly durable. Absolutely. I love them.

00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:06.519
They're they're such an expensive investment,

00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:10.059
but totally worth it. Absolutely. They really

00:15:10.059 --> 00:15:13.139
are. I know. I feel a little bit bad recommending

00:15:13.139 --> 00:15:15.559
something so expensive, but like it will last

00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:19.259
forever. Like the ones that I've got that are

00:15:19.259 --> 00:15:22.360
more than 17 years old. Cause they were already

00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.419
in existence before I started working. Like so,

00:15:26.580 --> 00:15:30.279
and they're, they've shown no signs of like where

00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:33.419
really like they're like, they're not super duper

00:15:33.419 --> 00:15:36.220
clean anymore, but they're not cracking or like,

00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:39.940
they're not, they're still, we still use them

00:15:39.940 --> 00:15:43.899
every day. I see no need to replace them anytime

00:15:43.899 --> 00:15:47.000
soon. So if it can last for, you know, 20 plus

00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:50.960
years, then it's a good investment. So for sure.

00:15:51.500 --> 00:15:54.059
Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, that defines seating.

00:15:54.740 --> 00:15:57.659
Such a hard concept like that. Like you said,

00:15:57.899 --> 00:16:01.059
keeping the kids and having them understand where

00:16:01.059 --> 00:16:05.700
their body is in space. Such a weird concept

00:16:05.700 --> 00:16:09.330
that you might not think about. you had to learn

00:16:09.330 --> 00:16:11.269
that at some point. And so we have to be the

00:16:11.269 --> 00:16:13.490
ones that help those students learn that so that

00:16:13.490 --> 00:16:18.269
they can be aware of it and understand. Very

00:16:18.269 --> 00:16:23.549
important. I agree. Yeah. All right. So the next

00:16:23.549 --> 00:16:25.529
book that we're going to talk about today is

00:16:25.529 --> 00:16:29.250
called Just One Flake. It's published by Abrams

00:16:29.250 --> 00:16:32.669
Books for Young Readers in 2023. The author and

00:16:32.669 --> 00:16:36.110
illustrator of this book is Travis Yonker. Is

00:16:36.110 --> 00:16:40.179
that how you say it? Yonker, right? This book

00:16:40.179 --> 00:16:44.539
has won many awards and is on many lists including

00:16:44.539 --> 00:16:48.059
the Texas 2x2 Reading List, the Minnesota Star

00:16:48.059 --> 00:16:51.539
of the North Picture Book Award List, the Missouri

00:16:51.539 --> 00:16:55.259
Building Block Picture Book Award, and the Wyoming

00:16:55.259 --> 00:17:00.600
Buckaroo Book Award K -3. Travis Yonker is a

00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.620
school librarian in Michigan. He also helps make

00:17:03.620 --> 00:17:05.940
a podcast about children's books called The Yarn.

00:17:06.619 --> 00:17:09.900
His father was born in the Netherlands and immigrated

00:17:09.900 --> 00:17:12.680
to Canada. He attended college in Holland, Michigan

00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:16.859
and met his wife. His other books include Caboose,

00:17:16.980 --> 00:17:19.880
illustrated by Ruth Chan, which came out of February

00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.980
4th of this year, The Ship in the Window, illustrated

00:17:22.980 --> 00:17:26.839
by Matthew Cordell, Blue Floats Away, illustrated

00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:30.740
by Grant Snyder, and The Very Last Castle, illustrated

00:17:30.740 --> 00:17:35.250
by Mark Pett. Before we get into this book, I

00:17:35.250 --> 00:17:36.970
want to tell you a little bit, just kind of a

00:17:36.970 --> 00:17:41.849
brief side note. Have you used teaching books

00:17:41.849 --> 00:17:44.609
for schools? Have you used that resource before?

00:17:45.089 --> 00:17:48.089
No. What is it? So this is a super cool resource.

00:17:48.369 --> 00:17:49.990
Like a lot of the public libraries have it and

00:17:49.990 --> 00:17:55.809
a lot of schools have it available also. So you

00:17:55.809 --> 00:17:59.690
can search for like most authors and it'll give

00:17:59.690 --> 00:18:01.509
you any kind of interviews that they've done.

00:18:01.509 --> 00:18:03.809
A lot of times it'll link to their personal websites.

00:18:04.250 --> 00:18:06.410
And one of the super cool things that it has

00:18:06.410 --> 00:18:09.789
is it will give you, oh, it gives the authors

00:18:09.789 --> 00:18:12.809
an opportunity to record a message where they

00:18:12.809 --> 00:18:15.390
tell you how to pronounce their names. Because

00:18:15.390 --> 00:18:19.390
some of these names are crazy, incredibly difficult

00:18:19.390 --> 00:18:21.990
to, to just like phonetically try and figure

00:18:21.990 --> 00:18:25.849
out. Yeah. Feel that. Yeah. And so, um, Travis

00:18:25.849 --> 00:18:29.930
Yonker. Did this and so that's where I kind of

00:18:29.930 --> 00:18:33.450
found it that they pronounce it yonker Apparently

00:18:33.450 --> 00:18:36.690
his dad was born in the Netherlands. They moved

00:18:36.690 --> 00:18:41.349
in so in Dutch It's yonker they move his dad

00:18:41.349 --> 00:18:43.930
was a child and immigrated to Canada when they

00:18:43.930 --> 00:18:46.369
got to Canada Everyone pronounced it Jonker with

00:18:46.369 --> 00:18:49.190
the J sound and that's how they pronounced it

00:18:49.190 --> 00:18:51.609
So when he was a kid, he pronounced it Jonker

00:18:51.609 --> 00:18:55.769
when he grew up. He went to a mostly Dutch area

00:18:55.769 --> 00:18:58.950
of Michigan, Holland, Michigan. That's where

00:18:58.950 --> 00:19:01.990
he went to college. That's where he met his wife

00:19:01.990 --> 00:19:05.009
and everybody there because they're from that

00:19:05.009 --> 00:19:08.410
Dutch heritage pronounced it Yonker. And so that's,

00:19:08.470 --> 00:19:11.869
so he's kind of gone back to that original pronunciation.

00:19:12.470 --> 00:19:14.890
That's interesting. Dad was a child, which is

00:19:14.890 --> 00:19:18.630
super cool. But yeah, teaching books for schools.

00:19:19.069 --> 00:19:21.569
If you find that resource, if you have access

00:19:21.569 --> 00:19:24.559
to it, like our local libraries, one of the local

00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:27.140
libraries in our area can give you access to

00:19:27.140 --> 00:19:29.740
it if the school district doesn't. My school

00:19:29.740 --> 00:19:32.420
district does have access to it also, but you

00:19:32.420 --> 00:19:35.259
can search for a lot of these authors and illustrators

00:19:35.259 --> 00:19:38.400
and it gives interviews, it gives their website

00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:43.099
links and not everybody does it, but a lot of

00:19:43.099 --> 00:19:45.799
the authors will make an audio recording telling

00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:48.019
you how to pronounce their name and give a little

00:19:48.019 --> 00:19:49.920
story as to why it's pronounced that way or how

00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:52.759
to pronounce it like with like it rhymes with

00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:55.920
this or whatever so super cool resource that's

00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:59.420
a little bit of a tangent but really cool resource

00:19:59.420 --> 00:20:04.680
um for for any librarian that's wanting to pronounce

00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:11.240
the names correctly so cool thank you all right

00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:14.240
so in this book it's about a determined little

00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:16.900
boy who struggles to catch a snowflake on his

00:20:16.900 --> 00:20:19.799
tongue during a snow day eventually he does catch

00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:22.599
a snowflake Although it is on his mitten, not

00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:25.160
his tongue. I thought this was a really cute,

00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:27.559
relatable story for children. I think that's

00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:30.319
probably the thing that most kids do first when

00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:32.660
they go outside for a snow day is try and catch

00:20:32.660 --> 00:20:34.819
that snowflake on their tongue if it's actively

00:20:34.819 --> 00:20:37.539
snowing. That's, I think, the number one thing

00:20:37.539 --> 00:20:39.799
is to catch your snowflake on your tongue. Second

00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:41.940
thing, go build a snowman. That's just what you

00:20:41.940 --> 00:20:46.279
do, right? So, yeah, and it is, it is hard to

00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:49.920
do. It's true. So I thought that most kids would

00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:52.460
really relate to this and kind of identify with

00:20:52.460 --> 00:20:56.539
the little boy in the book. It's got simple illustrations

00:20:56.539 --> 00:21:00.220
and simple text. It makes it really easy to understand

00:21:00.220 --> 00:21:03.240
for our little learners. It could be used as

00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:05.519
a launch point to discuss both social and emotional

00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:10.450
skills because the boy shows great perseverance,

00:21:10.849 --> 00:21:13.529
really struggling to catch that snowflake. And

00:21:13.529 --> 00:21:15.670
he tries several different ways to solve his

00:21:15.670 --> 00:21:18.670
problem. Or you could also do a STEM lesson about

00:21:18.670 --> 00:21:22.589
snow in general and individual snowflakes, because

00:21:22.589 --> 00:21:24.890
at the end of it he does catch that snowflake

00:21:24.890 --> 00:21:27.309
on his mitten and he kind of gets to really see

00:21:27.309 --> 00:21:30.450
what it looks like before it melts away. And

00:21:30.450 --> 00:21:32.990
then, of course, at the very end he makes his

00:21:32.990 --> 00:21:38.240
own snowflake out of paper. you could do lots

00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:41.039
of different lessons with this one, even though

00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:43.880
it's really short and really only takes a couple

00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:45.940
of minutes to read through, but you can really

00:21:45.940 --> 00:21:48.720
go a lot of different directions with it. So

00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:51.819
I enjoyed it a whole lot. Yes, I agree. This

00:21:51.819 --> 00:21:55.460
is a very cute story. I love that he had a goal

00:21:55.460 --> 00:21:57.299
in mind. And even though he didn't reach his

00:21:57.299 --> 00:21:59.460
goal, he was kind of content with himself, especially

00:21:59.460 --> 00:22:00.579
at the end of the book, where he was like, you

00:22:00.579 --> 00:22:03.400
know what? I caught it on my mitten. I've seen

00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:06.670
what it looks like at least and then he goes

00:22:06.670 --> 00:22:08.730
inside and he's like you know what the hot chocolate

00:22:08.730 --> 00:22:10.289
probably tastes better than the snowflake would

00:22:10.289 --> 00:22:13.210
anyway and but now that i've seen a snowflake

00:22:13.210 --> 00:22:15.549
i can make my own and he's able to do that so

00:22:15.549 --> 00:22:18.589
like even though he didn't reach his original

00:22:18.589 --> 00:22:22.829
goal he was still able to find some contentment

00:22:22.829 --> 00:22:25.529
in what he was able to achieve for himself and

00:22:25.529 --> 00:22:29.680
kind of move past Being slightly unsuccessful

00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:32.799
to to get to another goal of his of being able

00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:34.759
to make his own snowflakes Which is really cool.

00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:37.039
And that's a it's a good lesson for a lot of

00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:39.319
kids You know, sometimes we set goals that we

00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:43.140
just can't reach but if we Get if we learn something

00:22:43.140 --> 00:22:45.980
from it and can move forward with it then, you

00:22:45.980 --> 00:22:49.779
know Then it's still a success, right? And so

00:22:49.779 --> 00:22:52.019
yeah, I thought this is a really cute story.

00:22:52.019 --> 00:22:55.339
I like the simple illustrations to it I like

00:22:55.339 --> 00:22:58.210
that. It's just kind of like that relatable kind

00:22:58.210 --> 00:23:01.349
of art of like all of the snowflakes are just

00:23:01.349 --> 00:23:03.910
kind of they they're just white but they have

00:23:03.910 --> 00:23:05.690
that little crisscross in the middle of them

00:23:05.690 --> 00:23:10.670
and that kind of like that art style kind of

00:23:10.670 --> 00:23:14.730
just kind of reminds me back to when I was younger

00:23:14.730 --> 00:23:17.029
and I was trying to do drawing and stuff like

00:23:17.029 --> 00:23:18.730
that and like so it's kind of relatable in that

00:23:18.730 --> 00:23:20.970
sense as far as the illustrations go as well

00:23:20.970 --> 00:23:26.029
and I just like that the kid was just so determined.

00:23:26.309 --> 00:23:27.829
Like at one point I was reading and I'm like,

00:23:27.829 --> 00:23:30.789
he's just like eating himself towards that last

00:23:30.789 --> 00:23:32.630
snowflake. Like he just kind of jumps and goes

00:23:32.630 --> 00:23:35.410
for it. And that's just, it was just a fun story

00:23:35.410 --> 00:23:40.049
to read. I enjoyed it a lot. Yeah. Yeah. So for

00:23:40.049 --> 00:23:43.150
the makerspace activity for this one, it's a

00:23:43.150 --> 00:23:45.730
little obvious, but I think it was great because

00:23:45.730 --> 00:23:48.789
it was obvious where you just get white paper

00:23:48.789 --> 00:23:51.329
and scissors and cut out paper snowflakes with

00:23:51.329 --> 00:23:54.190
your students. There's a whole lot of I mean

00:23:54.190 --> 00:23:57.170
just if you just Google you know paper snowflake

00:23:57.170 --> 00:24:00.609
cut out like there are so many templates that

00:24:00.609 --> 00:24:03.009
you can use online where you can it shows you

00:24:03.009 --> 00:24:06.670
how to like fold up the paper and where to cut

00:24:06.670 --> 00:24:08.690
on the lines which I think would be a great place

00:24:08.690 --> 00:24:10.869
to start with it and then hopefully eventually

00:24:10.869 --> 00:24:14.410
your students would figure out, you could teach

00:24:14.410 --> 00:24:17.329
your students anyway, how to fold the paper appropriately

00:24:17.329 --> 00:24:20.190
and kind of make their own cuts so that they

00:24:20.190 --> 00:24:22.250
can create their own snowflakes. This would be

00:24:22.250 --> 00:24:26.730
a fun one to do around December, January. You

00:24:26.730 --> 00:24:29.710
can cut out all those paper snowflakes and then

00:24:29.710 --> 00:24:32.289
hang them up all over the library or maybe even

00:24:32.289 --> 00:24:34.609
in the hallways at school, like leading to the

00:24:34.609 --> 00:24:36.990
library so it kind of looks like it's snowing

00:24:36.990 --> 00:24:39.289
in the halls. I think kids would get a kick out

00:24:39.289 --> 00:24:42.250
of seeing all of their artwork. all over the

00:24:42.250 --> 00:24:46.490
place so yeah absolutely and as we've said in

00:24:46.490 --> 00:24:49.769
previous episodes you know using scissors and

00:24:49.769 --> 00:24:51.710
practicing those cutting skills is something

00:24:51.710 --> 00:24:54.750
that can be a challenge but this was a good way

00:24:54.750 --> 00:24:58.569
to practice those skills in a controlled setting

00:24:58.569 --> 00:25:02.539
where they can work on that grip with the scissors

00:25:02.539 --> 00:25:06.299
and cutting appropriate things and you know it's

00:25:06.299 --> 00:25:08.160
going to be something that some of the students

00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:09.660
will struggle a little bit more with but giving

00:25:09.660 --> 00:25:11.880
them that practice will help build those muscles

00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.299
in their hands so that they're successful and

00:25:14.299 --> 00:25:16.660
yeah because I mean being at the elementary school

00:25:16.660 --> 00:25:18.680
I still have students in like third and fourth

00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:20.579
grade that struggle to cut and I think it's because

00:25:20.579 --> 00:25:23.789
they didn't. always get these opportunities to

00:25:23.789 --> 00:25:26.190
practice. And so I think offering that to our

00:25:26.190 --> 00:25:28.710
younger students, giving them those opportunities

00:25:28.710 --> 00:25:31.009
to practice using the scissors in a controlled

00:25:31.009 --> 00:25:34.230
setting so that they can build up those muscles

00:25:34.230 --> 00:25:37.369
and get that practice in super important. And

00:25:37.369 --> 00:25:39.730
I love that idea. And I really like the idea

00:25:39.730 --> 00:25:41.930
of having the snowflakes like kind of hanging

00:25:41.930 --> 00:25:43.890
from the ceiling and hanging in the hallway.

00:25:44.170 --> 00:25:46.589
If nothing else, maybe even just kind of wishing

00:25:46.589 --> 00:25:49.309
that snow day into existence sometimes, right?

00:25:50.719 --> 00:25:54.180
Yeah. I wished for it real hard this week. It

00:25:54.180 --> 00:25:56.140
didn't quite happen, but that's okay. On my way

00:25:56.140 --> 00:25:59.119
to work this yesterday, it was snowing. There

00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:01.400
was, it was just random flakes. It wasn't sticking,

00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.680
but it was snowing and I was like, man, what

00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:10.500
good are you snow? Uh huh. in thinking about

00:26:10.500 --> 00:26:13.920
it just now too you could also do that same thing

00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.799
with a bigger piece of tissue paper so that it's

00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:19.180
just a little bit thinner and easier for the

00:26:19.180 --> 00:26:21.400
kids to cut through because once you do fold

00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:23.460
over that paper it will be a little bit thicker

00:26:23.460 --> 00:26:26.799
and a little bit more difficult to cut through

00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.220
but doing it with tissue paper might be a good

00:26:29.220 --> 00:26:33.019
way to kind of have a thinner thing that you're

00:26:33.019 --> 00:26:34.740
cutting through make it a little bit easier for

00:26:34.740 --> 00:26:39.509
the kids and i do like Cutting this way in particular

00:26:39.509 --> 00:26:43.009
too because it's not like you could do it on

00:26:43.009 --> 00:26:45.750
a line and you could print out a template for

00:26:45.750 --> 00:26:50.049
the kids to cut on but you could also just do

00:26:50.049 --> 00:26:53.690
snips in it and it's not necessarily like it

00:26:53.690 --> 00:26:56.829
doesn't have to be like particular shape that

00:26:56.829 --> 00:26:59.650
the kids are going for so if they don't you know

00:26:59.650 --> 00:27:01.769
if they mess up or if they just snip a couple

00:27:01.769 --> 00:27:04.809
of times like they're still successful, you know,

00:27:04.869 --> 00:27:08.829
yeah and on that same kind of Path I think I've

00:27:08.829 --> 00:27:11.490
also seen people do like coffee filters and stuff

00:27:11.490 --> 00:27:14.549
too. Oh, yeah coffee filters would be good So

00:27:14.549 --> 00:27:17.410
that might work too. Yeah, I love that Yeah,

00:27:18.049 --> 00:27:19.849
and but it's also like coffee filters also, like

00:27:19.849 --> 00:27:21.910
you said thinner than that printer paper for

00:27:21.910 --> 00:27:26.210
sure, too So I like that idea very cool Maybe

00:27:26.210 --> 00:27:28.930
someone is still getting some snow. It sounds

00:27:28.930 --> 00:27:31.269
like people a little bit further north than us

00:27:31.269 --> 00:27:32.730
They're still getting some snow. So maybe they

00:27:32.730 --> 00:27:35.430
can still use that idea this year. We'll see

00:27:35.430 --> 00:27:38.720
it probably can it's still I don't know when

00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.599
this will post. It's February for us! It's winter

00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.299
now. I don't know when this will post, but it

00:27:44.299 --> 00:27:47.819
would still be fun. Thank you all for joining

00:27:47.819 --> 00:27:50.299
us today on this episode of Librarians and Littles.

00:27:50.500 --> 00:27:53.259
We hope you found some fresh ideas for inspiring

00:27:53.259 --> 00:27:55.579
young readers. Please be sure to subscribe and

00:27:55.579 --> 00:27:59.440
connect with us on social media. Thank you for

00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.500
listening to this episode of Librarians of Littles.

00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:05.359
We hope that you've enjoyed it. Check back each

00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:09.509
Wednesday for a new episode. Librarians of Littles

00:28:09.509 --> 00:28:12.509
is a podcast produced and hosted by Patrick Adams

00:28:12.509 --> 00:28:16.710
and Caroline Ligier. Editor, Patrick Adams. Our

00:28:16.710 --> 00:28:19.930
theme song is performed by JD Adams. You can

00:28:19.930 --> 00:28:23.150
follow us on Instagram at Librarians of Littles.

00:28:23.509 --> 00:28:27.470
You can follow us on BlueSky at littleslibrarian

00:28:27.470 --> 00:28:32.069
.bsky .social. And you can send us your emails

00:28:32.069 --> 00:28:36.529
at librarianoflittlespodatgmail .com.
