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Hello, I'm Patrick Adams. And I'm Caroline Leshear.

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And this is Librarians of Littles, a podcast

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where we review books, include makerspace connections,

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and give tips or tricks for using the library

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with our youngest learners. This week, we are

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going to be sharing two books with you that come

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from the Texas 2x2 list, a list of books created

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by the Texas Library Association every year that

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encourages students to read books that are fit

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for children between the ages of two and second

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grade. And so our first book this week is titled

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Mr. S. It's published by Catherine Teigen Books,

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an imprint of HarperCollins Publishers in 2023.

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The author and illustrator is Monica Arnaldo.

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This book as mentioned is on the Texas 2x2 list,

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but it has also been on the ALSC Notable Children's

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Books list of 2024, the Governor General's Award

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for Young People's Literature Illustrator Finalist

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for 2023, the Junior Library Guild selections

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2024, Publisher Weekly Best Books 2023, and the

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School Library Journal Best Books of the Year

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2023. Monica Arnaldo has also earned the Outstanding

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International Books Grade K -2 in 2015 for her

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book, Arto's Big Move. Monica Arnaldo is an award

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-winning author and illustrator. She grew up

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in Ontario, Canada, in the 1900s. That's what

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she has on her webpage, and it hurts my soul.

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In what? It hurts my soul. In the 1900s, like

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it's... forever ago. It was yesterday. I was

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talking to my mom the other day about water bottles.

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You know how kids these days are like, I need

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my water bottle and it's a thing. And my mom

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was like, you didn't have your water bottles.

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And I was like, no, I think that started happening

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like around the turn of the century. The turn

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of the century. Oh, oh. That wasn't a thing in

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the turn of the century, and that's a valid statement.

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We are so old. Oh, God. Nope, we're keeping all

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of this in. We're keeping all of this. About

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how old we are? Yes. Yep. Okay. All of this is

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staying in. Yep. Yep. Well anyways On her website

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she explains that as a child she invented trading

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lunches and had to be actively restrained from

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befriending wild animals other books that she

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has done include are you a cheeseburger the museum

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of very bad smells time for bed story arto's

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big move little books a little book of big fears

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little brothers and little sisters and she's

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also worked with other authors to write A Dog

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Day for Susan by Maureen Fergus and The Last

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Slice, a Three Kings Day Treat by Melissa Richardson.

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So the summary for this book, it is the first

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day of school and students find themselves in

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a classroom and on the desk at the front of the

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classroom is a stack of papers, a warm mug of

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coffee, and an impressive looking sandwich. As

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the students do not see a teacher, they assume

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that there isn't one until they notice that on

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the board in neat handwriting is the name Mr.

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S. As students are trying to figure out where

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their teacher might be, they find that maybe

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Mr. S stands for the sandwich and that must be

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their teacher. Once they realize that their teacher

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may be a sandwich, they start to get to work.

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and they begin their lessons, they work on the

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alphabet, they do art and story time and music

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and as the day goes on the students question

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if a sandwich can be a teacher. When a man finally

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enters the room it appears that this may be their

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missing teacher and the whole situation is solved

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but in fact this missing teacher who throughout

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the entire book you can see through the classroom

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window is having a very rough day of it. turns

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out to be the principal, Mr. Spencer, and the

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student's teacher is indeed Mr. S. The Sandwich.

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I really love this book. I think this is such

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a great story. It's so cute. It's so fun. It

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does not end the way you expect it to. There's

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so many little jokes going on throughout the

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story. This is going to be my new beginning of

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the year book that I'm going to read with kids

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as the school year starts, because this is such

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a fun story. All of the mayhem that is happening

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to Mr. Spencer in the background through the

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classroom window is really funny, and it tells

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an entire nother story just using the illustrations

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in the book. There's some great Little in jokes

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like the alphabet that they're learning All of

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the letters are correlated to different like

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sandwich types So like letter C is for club sandwich

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and like that kind of thing So it was just like

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in jokes with that And then I really really love

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the conversation as kids are trying to figure

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out if a sandwich can be a teacher and the argument

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that well there's computer teachers and salsa

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teachers and piano teachers and it's these images

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of those physical things actually being teachers

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and I just like that kind of humor to me is really

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fun and even if the kids don't get it it amuses

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me which I'm okay with and but I think that the

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kids would really enjoy this story I think it's

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just so fun and that twist ending where it's

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nope yep the sandwich is actually your teacher

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kind of thing is just Not something that would

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be expected. And so I really enjoyed this I'm

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gonna give it a five out of five bookmarks Because

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like I said, this is gonna be my new beginning

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of the year book. I Agree completely. This is

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definitely a five out of five. This was this

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maybe the most original first day of school book

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I've ever seen yeah Yeah, I think most of most

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first day of school books are fine. They're important

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to have too, like for getting kids acclimated

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to the first day of school and there's a lot

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of feelings that go along with it. This just

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makes it a lot more lighthearted. I might for

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really young kids like our pre -k and kinder

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who are like, it's truly their first day of school.

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I would not read this immediately to them. I

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would probably wait a week or two until, so a

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lot of those Kindergarten pre -k kids they they

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really some of them really do think that they're

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like being abandoned This is for some of them.

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It's their first time like out of the house and

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there's a lot of tears and They haven't been

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anywhere before and some of them truly do think

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that they're not they have to live here forever

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So I don't know if I would read it to them like

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on the first day or anything I might it might

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be like a second week of school for them everybody

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else who understands that this is, you know,

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a fun routine and like, school's not for them

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to live at forever. Like, it would be fun right

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away for them. But yeah, definitely a five out

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of five for originality there. It was a great

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one. I loved it. It's really cute. And like I

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said, the humor just got me. I was smiling the

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whole time I was reading the book. It's just

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really great. And the pictures are really cute.

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And something else that I really, really liked

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about it was that the students in the classroom

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are very diverse. Like there's different skin

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colors. There's a student that is a wheelchair

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user as part of the class. And so like, that's

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just a subtle kind of thing that incorporates

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just everybody being included. And I really like

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that addition to the story, even though it's

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not really necessarily pointed out, it's just,

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Hey, these are all the kids and they just kind

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of do their thing. But Being able to see that

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is just a nice added bonus also that I really

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enjoy. Alright, so I'm going to be honest, for

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a makerspace activity for this, I was struggling.

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I was having a hard time because if we're trying

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to think of something for pre -K students to

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do... The idea of the book is like sandwiches

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and things like that. And so that's challenging.

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What I did do is I looked at, because this is

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a Texas two by two list book, the Texas Library

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Association has cards with different activities

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and different ideas of how to, like they have

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questions that you can ask during the book and

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some like writing prompts, but they also have

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some activities and stuff like that. So I went

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there and looked and what they have, as an activity

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that's suggested for this is building a sandwich.

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And the way it works is there's two papers that

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you'd have to print for every kid. The first

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one is a sandwich. It's like a bun that's connected

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by multiple rectangles. The idea is you cut that

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out, fold all of those rectangles up so that

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the sandwich collapses. And then on the second

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page, are the ingredients for your sandwich.

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So like lettuce, tomatoes, meat, that kind of

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stuff. And there's even like an egg and all sorts.

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So you can pick and choose what you add. And

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then you add those into the folded pieces of

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the sandwich and makes a sandwich that the kids

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can have so they can have their own little Mr.

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S sandwich. Which is a really cute idea. For

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pre -K, that's gonna be a lot more challenging

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because... That especially if you do this as

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a beginning of the year book because that's gonna

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take a lot of fine motor skills using scissors

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Folding the paper following the instructions.

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That's gonna be really really challenging. So

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That's an option if you're working with bigger

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kids and you wanted to do something like that

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That would be a pretty good option. I don't think

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it would be super successful with pre -k students

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I think with pre -k students the better option

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would maybe be just to pull out the Legos and

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have them build their own Mr. S sandwich out

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of Legos or they could pick another type of teacher

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that they would like to make and build that with

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Legos or they could make a person teacher if

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they wanted that like something like that instead

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because because it is about teachers and they

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can either make their own Mr. S sandwich teacher

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or they could make a teacher and then talk to

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you about you could ask them questions about

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what their teacher teaches and how they teach

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and I'm sure they'd give you a whole story background

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of what they want in their teacher which would

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be a cool way to find out like what they expect

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teachers to do and be like and that would be

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a fun way to kind of get to know the kids a little

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bit more is to have them build a teacher and

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then get to go around to each table as they're

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building and like talk to them and find out what

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they think. school should be like and what they're

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looking for in a teacher. So that might be a

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way to build some connections that way. That'd

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be fun. So yeah, but other than that, I don't

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know, like sandwich things is food. Making connections

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with food is always kind of hard when you're

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in the public, when you're in a library setting,

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because I always also try to convince my students

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that we We try to avoid having food in the library

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a lot. So yeah, same. I don't want to I don't

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want to mix those messages with the students

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either a lot. So that can kind of be hard sometimes.

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Well, and I also think, though, at the very beginning

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of because you would read this problem in August,

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probably. At the very beginning when you're still

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kind of establishing your routines and procedures

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and I think I might not even have necessarily

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anything in particular tied to it and just be

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like we're still teaching routines you're in

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school that's the connection. Yeah and like and

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just when you're in school you do these things

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the kids are in school in this book they're doing

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these things you're gonna do these things and

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just have. Teaching routines be your lesson for

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that day. I think for this one just because it

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is a beginning of this school year book It's

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just establishing routines could be yeah Appropriate

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for our the youngest youngest kids. I think you're

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right I love the building a sandwich for the

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older kids who have already you know, they just

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need a refresher Yeah on what their routines

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are ideally ideally they've been coming to the

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library for a few years and they kind of at one

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point knew the expectations and so you just but

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ideally they'll only need a refresher but for

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younger kids let's just learn that the library

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is a safe place and that's what we're doing still

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yeah and that's fine I think yeah that's a good

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idea yeah this week for our library of littles

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management tip In previous episodes, we've mentioned

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that the pre -K campuses that we've worked on

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have their own makerspace labs. So this week

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we wanted to talk to you about how we kind of

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set up those labs, the zones that we use to set

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up the makerspace labs and kind of how that works.

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So in our makerspace labs, they're separate from

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the library. We still do makerspace in the library,

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but we have separate makerspace labs. that are

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used by the classroom teachers with their students.

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And those labs are set up into six distinct areas.

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Those six distinct areas are designated with

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colored duct tape that correlates to what the

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area is, and it sets a defined space in. the

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makerspace lab. So the students have somewhere

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to work, but that they're not roaming the entire

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room with all of the materials and getting everything

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everywhere. So the six areas that we defined

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all have something to do with a portion of STEM

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or STEAM education. The six areas that we have

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in our makerspace labs include coding and robotics,

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simple machines, creation station, the construction

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zone, organic mechanics, and the tinker table.

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So some of these are more self -explanatory than

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others, but in coding and robotics, the students

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are working to learn how to make robots move

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using coding. So they're learning cause and effect.

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We use a lot of the simple robots that students

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can either press buttons directly on the robot

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or they're using other things to have the robots

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move. to see the correlation between the actions

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that they're telling the robots to do and the

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actual movements that they make. A lot of these

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robots are more simplistic. We try to avoid using

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a lot of iPads with screens to control robots

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just because at this age A lot of screen time

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isn't the best. And honestly, a lot of these

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students end up getting plenty of screen time

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in other locations. So we don't need to continue

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that trend in this space. In the simple machines,

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the students are using those simple machines.

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So they're using levers and pulleys and wheels

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to build and create. In the creation station,

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this is an art and crafts kind of station where

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We have different activities where they can use

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those crayons and markers and colored pencils

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and construction paper to build and create different

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activities each time they come in. Our construction

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zone is just that it's building blocks, it's

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Lincoln logs, all of those things for the kids

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to build and create and see what they can come

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up with. Organic mechanics is a fun area where

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students get to use natural materials like leaves

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and sticks and dirt to build and create and our

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tinker table is where students get to take things

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apart they get to deconstruct we use some we

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get volunteers to donate different pieces like

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computers or old DVRs, that kind of stuff, remote

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controls. And the students with supervision and

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some kid -friendly tools get to take those things

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apart just to see what's inside and see how they

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work. And so those six zones are set up in our

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makerspace so that they're color -coded. So if

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coding in robotics is the blue area, That area

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is defined with a blue line of duct tape on the

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floor so the students know to stay in that area

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with those materials and so on so each color

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each Zone has its own color and we define those

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spaces clearly so the students know where to

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stay and this works in correlation with something

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we've mentioned before each of those zones has

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a card that has a Set number. I think it's usually

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five or six close pins with the same color and

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students that are in that area will take the

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clothes pin off of the card and put it on their

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shirt while they're in that area. Once there

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are no more clothes pins, that area is closed.

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It can't accept any more students. And so if

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the students can't find a clothes pin, they know

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they need to go to a different area. And then

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when the students want to move, they take that

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colored clothes pin off and put it back on the

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card and go to a new area to take the correct

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clothes pin color. This also helps that it's

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color coded to match the duct tape so the teachers

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can see if there's a green clothespin in the

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blue area that somebody either didn't put the

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clothespin back or needs to go back to their

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area. That kind of thing, and it helps with management

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a lot. For such a large space with a lot of things

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happening at once. And it's been working. I think

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it works pretty well with the students and the

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teachers have kind of gotten accustomed to it

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and. Most of the teachers, when they go in there,

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they really enjoy being able to give the kids

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the freedom to move within. But the fact that

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it's all kind of separated out and they have

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their own spaces, it makes it a lot easier to

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kind of keep an eye on the students and not have

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kids just running all over the place the entire

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time. And they're not crowding in a particular

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zone or anything like that. It's all, everybody's

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pretty well spread out. And I know that some

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teachers have made it so that like if you're

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in the coding and robotics area one week the

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next week, you have to go somewhere else so that

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that area becomes available for other students

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and that kind of thing. And they kind of work

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that out as how their class, what's best for

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their class and for their students. But having

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those defined spaces really helps the kids to

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understand where they should be and what they

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should be doing in that area, which is really

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nice. Yeah. Well, our next book for today. is

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called No Fair. It was published by Viking in

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2023 and it is written and illustrated by Jacob

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Grant. It's on the Texas 2x2 2024 list and the

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Illinois Reads birth through 4 2024 list. Jacob

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Grant always knew he wanted to be an artist.

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As a child, he was shy and art gave him a way

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to express himself. He attended the Art Academy

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of Cincinnati where he majored in graphic design.

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He worked in graphic design for five years until

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he discovered his talent for writing children's

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books. He currently lives near Chicago with his

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wife and two kids. Some of his other books include

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Umami, No Pants, Bear Meets Bear, In this book,

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a boy and his father go on some errands with

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the promise of going out for a donut afterwards.

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As they go through the day, their boy complains

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that things aren't fair. He lost a race. His

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treats are smaller than everyone else's. and

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things like that. Eventually his father explains

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in simple terms that life isn't always fair,

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and fair doesn't necessarily mean the same thing

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for everyone. I thought this was a fun, cute,

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relatable story for young children. I think every

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kid in the world at some point has the realization

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that life isn't fair because it really just isn't.

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It's kind of a life lesson that we all kind of

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go through at some point. The illustrations are

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really simple. Liked that it was the book was

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written in dialogue, but it didn't have word

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bubbles instead They had I think it was black

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writing for The father's words and the little

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boy his name is Pablo his words were written

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in red So it was still like easy to distinguish

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who was talking when? but it didn't take away

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from the story at all and it kind of made it

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a little bit easier, I think, for the kids to

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follow along. It's, uh, I liked how the illustrations

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made it. It was, like, really clear that, like,

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a lot of the things that the boy thought wasn't

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fair were, like, his dad was getting all the

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big things, and the little boy was getting all

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the smaller things, but, like, because of the

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way the illustrations are, you can really see

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that, well, dad's a lot bigger, so, like, it's

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kind of fair that, like, he gets the bigger things,

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because... He kind of needs it because he's so

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much larger and like it was Really well done

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because it was so the proportions were kind of

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perfect for it I guess it was a really good visual

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for like for kids to see that You know because

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I know we all explain to kids that you know fair

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means different things for different people We

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all need different things. We're all we're all

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different humans with different needs and This

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just really made it a little bit easier to physically

00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:10.779
see why our differences are important and why

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we might kind of need different things. So I

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thought it was fun. I think I'd give it like

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a four out of five. Not necessarily like it wasn't

00:24:20.819 --> 00:24:23.180
a groundbreaking book or anything, but it was

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still simple and relatable and cute and kind

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of it was a fun to read book. I agree. Absolutely.

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It was a good book. It was cute. The pictures

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were very pretty and kind of just warm and enjoyable.

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And then, yeah, like, this is a lesson that,

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you know, it's really hard for some kids to understand

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that... Fair doesn't mean everybody gets exactly

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the same thing. You know, fair is everybody getting

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what they need at the time. And so this isn't

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like, I definitely agree if this is one of those

00:24:57.359 --> 00:24:59.960
books that is a good social emotional lesson

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for near the beginning of the school year so

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that you can explain, you know, fair is making

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sure everybody has what they need so they can

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be successful. And that doesn't mean that everybody

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gets the same things all the time. You know,

00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:18.880
we have some students that to be successful,

00:25:18.940 --> 00:25:22.240
they need to have that extra space where they

00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:25.299
can go and get some energy out before they come

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and sit down on the carpet and do their lesson

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or whatever. And some kids need to have that

00:25:30.099 --> 00:25:32.400
fidget in their hand. And that doesn't mean everybody

00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:36.579
gets it just because someone else does. If this

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is what that student needs so they can be successful,

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it's fair that they get it and you don't, if

00:25:41.380 --> 00:25:43.500
you don't need that to be successful. And so

00:25:43.500 --> 00:25:46.549
like being able to have that conversation, because

00:25:46.549 --> 00:25:50.089
of this book and being able to show look Pablo's

00:25:50.089 --> 00:25:55.029
dad is much bigger so He gets to pick up the

00:25:55.029 --> 00:25:57.750
bigger items where Pablo is smaller So he's gonna

00:25:57.750 --> 00:26:00.410
pick up the smaller items because he physically

00:26:00.410 --> 00:26:04.029
can't pick up the bigger items. That's fair They're

00:26:04.029 --> 00:26:07.650
splitting the work evenly for what their abilities

00:26:07.650 --> 00:26:10.490
are and what their needs are at the moment And

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so like I agree. It's a it's a really cute story.

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It's a lot of fun and it definitely makes it

00:26:16.329 --> 00:26:19.049
so you can incorporate some important lessons.

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And so this would be a great book to use near

00:26:21.029 --> 00:26:24.710
the beginning of the year also to kind of start

00:26:24.710 --> 00:26:28.009
having those discussions with kids. It's not

00:26:28.009 --> 00:26:29.269
going to be the last time you're going to have

00:26:29.269 --> 00:26:31.329
those discussions, but this is a good way to

00:26:31.329 --> 00:26:35.089
start that foundation. And you can always keep

00:26:35.089 --> 00:26:37.049
going like this is a good book that if you start

00:26:37.049 --> 00:26:38.390
near the beginning of the year with it, you can

00:26:38.390 --> 00:26:40.250
keep going back to it and be like, remember when

00:26:40.250 --> 00:26:43.349
we read this and we had this conversation. So

00:26:43.349 --> 00:26:44.970
yeah, I agree. That's true. I think it's a good,

00:26:45.130 --> 00:26:47.609
I think it's a great book. I enjoyed it. It's

00:26:47.609 --> 00:26:51.529
cute. It's fun. The pictures are very pretty.

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And so I would definitely use this book to help

00:26:55.230 --> 00:26:58.789
start having those conversations for sure. And

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there were also a few things like in the background,

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like I know we talked about like the things they

00:27:04.190 --> 00:27:06.569
physically say in the book, but there were also

00:27:06.569 --> 00:27:08.549
a few things in the background that were drawn

00:27:08.549 --> 00:27:10.970
in that were like, you could also talk about

00:27:10.970 --> 00:27:13.500
how like, Like Pablo has a dog that like comes

00:27:13.500 --> 00:27:15.680
around with him and like the dog is like trying

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to like pick up like pieces of donut on the ground

00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.599
and Pablo's always dragging away and like, well,

00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:23.779
you could talk to the kid about like, look, it's

00:27:23.779 --> 00:27:26.779
not fair for the dog either. He's trying to go

00:27:26.779 --> 00:27:28.980
get the donut and that's not fair that Pablo's

00:27:28.980 --> 00:27:30.319
dragging him away even though he just want to

00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.000
be dragged away. And there's a kid in the background

00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.319
over here who's in a wheelchair. It's, you know,

00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:39.079
not everybody has to use wheelchairs. It's not,

00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.180
it's fair that that kid has a wheelchair if he

00:27:42.180 --> 00:27:45.519
can't get up and walk like you don't need a wheelchair

00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.240
to walk like that's a pretty easy one to see

00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.160
that like another way to talk about absolutely

00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:55.440
you know how different uh fair is different for

00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:59.259
everybody um yeah and i like the idea of like

00:27:59.259 --> 00:28:01.000
referring back to it later in the school year

00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.460
it's a really good it's almost social story like

00:28:03.460 --> 00:28:08.000
yeah it's not quite a social story but close

00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:12.210
to it so I was thinking for this one because

00:28:12.210 --> 00:28:15.849
because the sizes of everything were so clear

00:28:15.849 --> 00:28:18.369
cut and there was some great proportions in there

00:28:18.369 --> 00:28:21.329
for like the big dad with the big drink and the

00:28:21.329 --> 00:28:23.829
small kid with the small drink it might be fun

00:28:23.829 --> 00:28:25.970
to build different houses for like different

00:28:25.970 --> 00:28:28.470
size items so like something that you might just

00:28:28.470 --> 00:28:30.930
have lying around the library would be like the

00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:32.549
different size counting bears because there's

00:28:32.549 --> 00:28:35.130
some that are like real big and some that are

00:28:35.130 --> 00:28:37.980
super duper not that are much smaller So like

00:28:37.980 --> 00:28:40.200
you could just use like the small Legos and just

00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.160
build like a different house a different size

00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.140
houses for them to like little fit inside or

00:28:45.140 --> 00:28:47.799
like you could even take it in a Goldilocks direction

00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.460
I guess and like build do it alongside that and

00:28:50.460 --> 00:28:53.160
have like different size chairs for the bears

00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.099
or something like that if you were gonna if you

00:28:55.099 --> 00:28:57.500
happen to be doing that as well you could also

00:28:57.500 --> 00:28:59.619
if you don't have like the I mean really you

00:28:59.619 --> 00:29:01.500
could do that with like almost anything that

00:29:01.500 --> 00:29:03.460
you have like lying around like you if you have

00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:06.099
like different size puppets Or you could just

00:29:06.099 --> 00:29:08.920
print different size pictures and just, you know,

00:29:09.099 --> 00:29:11.579
anything that you like. It doesn't necessarily

00:29:11.579 --> 00:29:13.819
have to be like counting bears, but just building

00:29:13.819 --> 00:29:18.539
different structures for items or ideally some

00:29:18.539 --> 00:29:21.980
kind of toys that the kids are really into for

00:29:21.980 --> 00:29:24.859
the kids to build with. So, and kind of having

00:29:24.859 --> 00:29:27.059
like a proportion lesson or like big and small

00:29:27.059 --> 00:29:30.180
kind of tie it in with that. I like that a lot.

00:29:30.259 --> 00:29:32.119
I like that idea of being able to build and have

00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:35.869
different items for them to build for. and then

00:29:35.869 --> 00:29:37.890
just kind of having it be random so like some

00:29:37.890 --> 00:29:40.349
kids are building bigger houses and some kids

00:29:40.349 --> 00:29:42.089
are building smaller houses and then be like

00:29:42.089 --> 00:29:44.650
look it's fair because you're building for this

00:29:44.650 --> 00:29:46.529
while he's building for that or whatever you

00:29:46.529 --> 00:29:50.009
know yeah and it could be really like anything

00:29:50.009 --> 00:29:53.690
that you have around the library puppets or i

00:29:53.690 --> 00:29:56.329
mean if the kids have a like at the beginning

00:29:56.329 --> 00:29:57.990
of our school year we usually have like a teddy

00:29:57.990 --> 00:30:00.210
bear day where they build or they they bring

00:30:00.210 --> 00:30:02.109
in their teddy bears and they could we could

00:30:02.109 --> 00:30:04.170
do that on teddy bear day and like notice the

00:30:04.170 --> 00:30:06.170
different sizes of our kids teddy bears and like

00:30:06.170 --> 00:30:07.690
what can you do for the teddy bear that would

00:30:07.690 --> 00:30:11.089
still be fair yeah because they're our teddy

00:30:11.089 --> 00:30:13.190
bears are all a little bit different so we're

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going to take care of them a little bit differently

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absolutely that's really cool i like that idea

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a lot I like these books. I think both of these

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books are really good books. Like you said, like

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you pointed out, I think both of these would

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be good books for near the beginning of the year.

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Definitely didn't mean to do a beginning of the

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year episode today, but it worked out really

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well. I think I probably will use these both

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at the beginning of next year. Like, for real,

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they're really great. They're both really good

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books that will be very useful with the kids

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and enjoyable. I think the kids will like both

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of them. Thank you all for joining us today on

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week of school kind of books. So well done to

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us Wrong time of year, but good job. That's okay,

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you know Hey, that's all right We can we can

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realize that we found some good beginning of

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the year books and you know what? Just save them

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and use them next year because I think yeah,

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I think I'm definitely gonna use the mr. S book

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next year cuz that's I Really enjoyed it. It

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was a lot of fun. So that one was super cute.

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Yeah that might be my new favorite like beginning

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of year book yeah it was like because i just

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i've i've had it on my shelf and i hadn't looked

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at it and then we were like let's do a two by

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two series so i was like okay what two by twos

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haven't we hit yet and that was on the list and

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i was like all right let's check it out i know

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i have this one on my shelf in the library so

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i went over and grabbed it and read it and i

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was like oh i like this so that was real cute

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good choice yeah
