Hello everybody. Welcome back to Real Talk with
Rayne and today I'm with Gabe. That's me. Hello.
We're talking about celebrity worship today and
you know just I guess on both sides of it I have
thoughts because you know I'm not a celebrity
and I don't know how that life is but I can only
assume that I almost feel like it's probably
demeaning in a lot of ways. Like when you become
a celebrity, you almost become more of a product
rather than like a person. And people think that
they are entitled to your time and your privacy.
So I think personally, I don't know why people
worship celebrities. I do. I'm like a joking
way. Like Idina Menzel is my idol. Like, oh my
God. But I also know that like, she's still just
a person that doing a job. That doesn't mean
that I wouldn't faint. If I met her, I would,
but that's just because she's done something
that, you know, she's helped me find a gift that
really helped save my life with singing. So She's,
you know, very much a hero to me in that way.
I feel like people who, I'm seeing it more and
more often right now on social media who are
just like constantly getting upset with celebrities
if they don't want to take pictures with them
or they don't want to sign something. And it
just, at the end of the day, I'm like, I can't
even imagine like feeling that. I don't have
the right to my own privacy in my own home and
like, I'm always gonna like be watched around
every corner. Yeah. I just feel like it, like
the fame almost isn't worth it. I agree with
that entirely like I think we're cut from the
same cloth where it's just like we we all have
our idols We all have our celebrities that were
like gonna be starstruck in front of like even
for me voice actors And like I would go see voice
actors at cons and I would literally have My
wife go over there on my behalf to have stuff
signed for me because I would be too starstruck
and too embarrassed to like talk to them, but
but I wouldn't like That's like fine because
that's like a con, you know, that's like a controlled
Environment. I would not then search out that
voice actor Outside of that con or anything because
that's that's a boundary that I feel like a lot
of people Sometimes don't understand is there
especially with like the rise of social media
where it's like now we can see more into the
lives of these celebrities and It's almost like
as you said they like They're treated as this
spectacle and they don't have privacy. They don't
have, they're not allowed to have a life. And
then they're told in the same breath, like, this
is what you signed up for. And it's like, that's
not fair. That's not fair to be like, oh, this
is your dream and this is what it costs. Like
it shouldn't cost anything to do a job. No one
is harassing me at my nine to five because that's
the... Cost of me doing my job like that that
should never be a stipulation of a career Yeah,
and I think it's it's a lot of I guess maybe
the human services person in me that I just I
see people at the very core of who they are and
I mean, I I see celebrities lashing out and a
lot of times I'm wondering if it's Because it's
been building up for so long and then like they
just they feel like they can't be themselves
or like they can't say anything they can't live
their life i almost wonder if some celebrities
feel like you know i miss how i felt when nobody
knew who i was yeah and i wasn't under the microscope
and people weren't trying to take pictures of
me everywhere I was going so that it would be
like in magazines about what I was wearing like
Why do we care like that's that's my one thing
too. It's like celebrity walks out of the gym.
They get a picture taken. Oh, they're coming
out of the gym. Okay Yeah, and like It's it I
don't understand paparazzi. I don't understand
like I get that celebrities are paid a lot of
money and I can understand why people, you know,
idolize them, but at the same time, it's really
sad when I see people saying that celebrities
are rude or they're taking, like, compilations
of celebrities having looks at award shows or
something, like... Yeah. You know, there was
one of, like, Rihanna laughing at Ariana Grande
dancing, and then people will take that and spin
it as, like, oh, she's laughing at her. She thinks
she's, like... She's laughing at her in like
a mean way. Yeah. I'm like, um, for one, how
do you know she was even laughing at her? How
do you know that what clip wasn't taken out of
context? How do you know that she was even reacting
to her? How do you know that she wasn't giggling
at her because she thought she was adorable and
she's like lifting other women up? Like it, there's
just so much. That can be misconstrued, especially
in media to get ratings and to get attention.
Yeah It's insane how we have Almost warped the
Image of a celebrity like obviously I'm no historian.
I don't know the history of the entertainment
industry But it's like from the vague universal
knowledge that I know is like we started with
you know that classic Hollywood like Marilyn
Monroe and her tragic death and it's like are
we and we just continue we just continue to feed
the idea of these people aren't people they are
idols they are things they are objects and it's
it's just downright cruel how that's kind of
evolving to be worse and worse because of just
like the internet and social media culture and
like this idea that we feel like we need to know
everything about this person and it's like like
because from what I understand like with like
late night talk shows for like before the internet,
that was like the only way you would get a glimpse
into what celebrities actual life would be like.
Like what their day to day interests or oh my
God, this celebrity actually shops at a grocery
store. That's crazy. You would find that out
on a talk show. But now with the internet and
with social media, these celebrities are like,
hey, look, this is I'm doing a TikTok live in
my target. What should I get? You know, um So
And that's no fault of theirs i'm not like trying
to blame the celebrities for like wanting to
share their life through social media but it's
almost like Because that's part of their job
That's something that their manager is probably
going to encourage them to do is to have a really
high social media presence But it's just like
people are like they just want to take more and
more to the point where it's just like some of
these celebrities feel the constant need to be
performing all the time and to be pleasant all
the time. And it's like, sometimes I have no
mental fortitude to interact with. Anybody like
not even my family, not even my friends. I just
want to I just want to be alone. So I can't imagine
feeling like that as a celebrity and you walk
out on the streets and just some random stranger.
Tries to force you to do something. Meanwhile,
you're just like I am in my sweatpants trying
to get a fucking taco and taco bell I'm not no,
I don't want to sign anything. I don't want to
talk to you. I don't want to hear your life story
towards me It's great. I appreciate you, but
I am so tired. I want to taco and go home. Yeah
so I Don't know it's just like it's it's because
because we're so similar I'm sure you also can't
fathom why people are so obsessed over a normal
person or just a guy. It's just the dude. Like
it's great that his or her or their work impacted
you so much that you like follow them throughout
their career. Like that's great. And I'm sure
they appreciate it. Yeah, but they don't know
you. That they don't know you exactly. It's also,
I feel like maybe what's going through my mind
right now is maybe it's, if we really think about
like deep, deep down, maybe it's having the acknowledgement
of somebody that you see as higher than yourself,
acknowledging you and acknowledging what you've
been through and acknowledging your existence,
it's like that, it's like a boost of feeling
good about yourself even for that one moment.
Like I met Thomas Sanders and I love that man.
Exactly the same person that you see online is
how he is in person and he's adorable. We didn't
talk for long, but like he, He would try to at
least have a few minutes with everybody after
he took a picture and just like talking to them
and whatnot. Um, so when I walked up to him,
you know, he, I was really insecure at this time
because I obviously idolized him and also I was
at my highest weight. So I thought that I looked
really fat and I thought that I was gross and
like, I didn't say anything. I just was kind
of, I feel like my body language reflected that.
Yeah. And I shit you not, this man was like,
oh, you look gorgeous. And I was like, oh. Oh,
thank you. He's like, you got all dressed up
for me. You know, I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm awkward.
He's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. If anyone
is awkward here, it's me. I'm the most awkward
person here. That's really nice. Yeah. He just
made me feel so at ease. And like, he's just
a guy. He's just a dude. Like he's just a dude
that would like hang out with you, you know,
but people see him differently because of the
success. So the success of people is I think
in our society is almost measured by how many
people have eyes on you and how much money you
make. Yeah. And like what you do. And in a way,
I feel like our success should be not reflective
on that, but reflective on what you do for the
world, what you put into your society. Like people
like doctors and teachers and people who are
working behind the scenes that don't get paid
enough. Like they don't get recognized enough
and celebrities do. But then at the same time,
I'm like, what, at what point does a celebrity
almost like lose themselves too? with the fame
because they have to be performative so often
because even if they're having a bad day, they
don't want to talk to somebody and then it's
twisted in the media as they're rude to their
fans. They don't care about their fans. They
probably just want to be left alone. I understand
you're not going to get a lot of chances to meet
your idol. It's a bummer if they don't want to
engage with you. However, you are not entitled
to their time. or anything from them. Just because
you see them on the screen and you know of them,
that doesn't make them any less of a human being.
So a lot of celebrities now, on the same thought,
I feel like some celebrities don't want to be
hounded, but then some celebrities also feed
the fire of like, they get caught yelling at
their team or I need this, I need that. And some
people really get into the fame and fortune and
they revel in it and they act like they revel
in it. And so there's different people in celebrity
life. I always like to reference Jim Carrey because
I feel like he's kind of had a whole... journey
through like Hollywood and then getting out of
Hollywood and working on his painting and stuff
like that. And he comes out and he talks a lot
about not the secrets of Hollywood, but like
his experiences and he hints at certain things.
If you watch a lot of interviews, especially
recently, he talks about like how Jim Carrey
is like a character and not a real person and
he kind of goes into a lot of spiritual rants
and people think that he's insane. And I'm like,
but are you really listening to like what he's
saying though? Yeah. Like it might sound crazy
surface level, but I've listened to him and he's
talking about how you are not seen as yourself
anymore once you reach that level, you're seen
as what everybody else wants you to be. You have
to stay on that to keep your job. It's like the
worst version of customer service. Like, it's
just terrible. I mean, I feel bad for celebrities
that get into that life and then they're like,
oh, I can buy anything I want. I'm living very
comfortably, more than comfortably. But the cost
is now I need to act like whatever my contract
says I need to act like. And yeah. Then the people
who are authentically themselves, like I know
Chappell Rhone yelled at a paparazzi recently
and was like telling him to like knock it off.
And they were telling, I think they told Chappell
to like shut up or something. try to hold those
like, nah, not me. Like, don't talk to me like
that. And then people were like, oh, Chaperone's
hard to work with. She's rude. Blah, blah, blah,
blah. I'm like, she stood up for herself. Like,
yeah. What do you mean? Like, what do you mean?
Like, I don't, I'm not like pro or like against
Chaperone or anything. I don't know enough about
her. I'm chronically offline, as I've said, but
Like, I, and I'm just older, so I just don't
follow a lot of social media people. I like,
you know, I think I've heard one song of Chaperone's
and that's it for right now. But it's interesting
to me how it's misconstrued so quickly. Yeah.
And it's not in favor of the celebrity. It's...
Sometimes people are like, they'll see it as
it is and like, oh, they're, they're shutting
down rude interviewers. And I like to see that,
but like, it's either they, it's very black and
white. You either see the celebrity as a good
person or a bad person and not just in between
of everybody has bad days. Yeah. And everybody
has moments where they're like, they're either
really on it or they're not. And you're like
Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo. crying at the
wicked press tours constantly. People are making
fun of them and saying like, Oh, are they okay?
Well, I'm like, maybe they're really passionate
about the project that they're doing. Maybe it's
like so much to them that they're emotional.
Like I know, if I had been casted to play Elphaba,
I would have been emotional in every single interview
too, like 100%. Like that character literally
saved my life. That's what got me into singing.
So I get it. And Ariana Grande has said the same
thing about Glinda being her dream role. So I
personally don't love Ariana Grande as a person.
I feel like she's a great singer, but I don't
know her. I only know of her and the things that
I know of her. I'm not sure. I'm kind of like...
I wouldn't say that I would hate her. I would
just say like, I'm not sure I'd want to be friends
with this person. I don't think I can relate
to this person at all. And I think it's more
just me growing over the last year or two and
trying to think of things differently and changing
my perspective of, they don't need to, it doesn't
need to be one way or the other. It can just
be, okay, I've heard these things that she's
done, but then also, I don't know her. I don't
know how much of this is true. I don't know how
much of it is falsified for media. I have no
idea, but I'm neutral when it comes to her. And
I think that despite me being originally upset
that she played the role of Glinda, I saw how
much it meant to her and putting aside my kind
of feeling apprehensive. It just, I think she
did a really good job playing Glinda. I think
that she brought herself to the role that it
was not Ariana Grande playing Glinda, it was
Glinda. And she worked with Christian Chenoweth,
who was the original on Broadway, and that, you
know, she had so much in this that, yes, I don't.
agree that she should have been hounding the
director for so long, but I'm glad to hear that
she auditioned. I'm glad to hear that she was
given the same chance that everybody else was.
Yeah. And you can tell that it means a lot to
her. And it's just kind of one of those things
where I think people are so focused on their...
emotions. Oh, they're crying all the time. Stop
crying. I'm like, these are literally people
who are living their dream right now. Even if
you're not an emotional person, wouldn't you
feel touched talking about this? Like, you know,
and they're holding hands and now there's rumors
about them like being together. And I'm like,
so I guess I guess gal pals can't hold hands
anymore. Yeah. Without them being gay. When is
holding hands a sign of being in a relationship?
You can't just be something supportive. When
I go to get my blood drawn and if my wife can't
go with me and my best friend goes with me, she'll
hold my hand. Yeah. Are we together? No. It's
a comforting thing. It's nice to see two women
support each other, especially in Hollywood.
It's nice to see a close bond like that, but
then everybody in the world wants to make something
negative out of everything. Like we can't just
be happy and be positive. There always has to
be that one person that's like, I'm not happy
with my life, so I'm going to make it everybody
else's problem. And then people follow suit because
they want to be a part of something. They don't
want to be outcasted. so That's a lot of I just
went on a rant but No, that's yeah. Yeah, that's
a very fair rant because I feel like Like Because
people have like so much emphasis on you know
out of context Stuff It's almost like they just
feel like they have to grasp at straws to get
any information, to be the first one to drop
new information. You know, it's always a race
to be the person who drops the latest news on
a celebrity, whether or not it's true, which
is entirely an entirely different conversation
about the ethics of journalism that I won't get
into. But that's another podcast topic of like
drama channels and crap that we'll get into.
Write that down, write that down. Write that
down, write that down. But it's like, I also
feel like because there's like this huge call
for being the person who drops the latest knowledge
or like the biggest secret about a celebrity,
it's like celebrities will get doxed because.
Even though like, yeah, yeah, it's public knowledge
that, you know, this person owns a house, like
that's going to be public knowledge. It's the
fact that you are putting people in danger just
so that way you can say, oh, I know where they
live or I know the name. I know their actual
name rather than their stage name. I know their
whole I'm going to I'm going to talk to them.
I'm going to refer to them as by their birth
name. to their face, even though they don't know
who I am. And that's creepy. Like if someone
came to me and just legal name dropped me, I
would be like, you're fucking crazy. I don't
know you. Go away. And it's like and but fans
and worshippers of these celebrities don't see
that as like a bad thing because in their mind
they're like, oh, we're so close. I know your
legal name. Parasocial relationships are crazy.
They are parasocial relationships are really
crazy because like I can't. Like it's. I'm flabbergasted.
Because I just can't imagine. Being that. Into
somebody to the point that you cross that line
of wanting to be in their personal life like
I'll be the first to admit it that There is like
some parasocial relationship going on between
me and the streamers that I watch because I watched
them so much I enjoy their contact that content.
I think they're funny. I cheer for them when
they get roles that they want or Or play games
that I like But I'm not gonna be like, go up
to them and be like, oh, I know your social security
number. Like, that's weird. There's a line that
I know, like, there's a screen between us. And
I know that. And if that person that I'm watching
ends up being, like, a really bad person, and,
you know, like, I feel hurt by that, Right, you
know, it's like even though he didn't do anything
to me. I can still be like well That was kind
of shitty thing to do now. I got to reevaluate
how I feel about this guy Which is like another
thing it's like I Feel like celebrities aren't
allowed to be gray. They're only allowed to be
black or white To a lot of not a lot to make
mistakes there. Yeah, like they're not allowed
to make mistakes. They're only either really
good people or really bad people. It doesn't
matter their past, it doesn't matter their background,
it doesn't matter their personal experiences.
They make a mistake 10 years ago, now that mistake
is with them forever, no matter whether or not
they were actually famous 10 years ago or not.
Right. And people like dig for that shit to like
the lady did it dig and dig and be like I want
to ruin this person and it's like You don't even
know who this person is. Like what is your problem?
Like yeah, that's like literally leave them alone
like leave Brittany alone like And it's not and
it's like like the inverse of celebrity worship
where it's just like These people hate these
celebrities for no reason other than the fact
that they just don't like How popular there are
or they just like you can not like a person and
not want to have a reason for it Like you can
be like, oh, I don't like this actor and everyone's
like, oh why did he do something bad? And it's
like no, I just I don't like them not my style
Yeah, it's like you don't need a reason to not
like an actor, but some people Feel the need
to be justified. And so they dig for evidence
and they dig for past actions and they're like,
see, see, I told you he was a bad person. And
it's like, dog, he was like that was like in
the 90s. You weren't even a thought yet. Like,
yeah. It's in it. I think it's just the insecurity
of people shining through because it's like,
I need to feel like I am a part of something,
whether I begin that. something or I follow suit.
Like I believe people saying, Oh, I don't like
this person because of X, Y, Z. And then I just
blindly accept that. Yeah. I, because I need
to feel wants, I have the need to feel wanted
and to feel like a part of something to have
people agree with me because I don't want to
feel like I'm pushed out. It's a lot of people
who are insecure and trying to find meaning in
their lives that latch onto even the smallest
things like hating a celebrity to be relevant
to other people instead of actually thinking
long and hard about, okay, why? Like I had a
rune reading the other day in Salem Mass and
it was amazing. And one of the things that the
reader told me was you think about the whys.
Like if we go back and we think about the whys
of situations then we really get more perspective
onto why that situation happens like This person
is saying that they hate a celebrity why because
the celebrity said They didn't like cats why?
Because the celebrity had a trauma of cats. Okay,
why and then it goes into Keep asking why and
it goes back to the root of whatever caused this,
if you really think about it. And maybe the root
is the celebrity didn't like the cats because
they got attacked. And then the person who is
not liking the celebrity loves cats, could never
have a cat. So by saying, I like the celebrity,
but they don't like cats. Oh, now I can't relate
to them and I'm upset with them. So that's the
disconnect there. So now I'm just gonna hate
them for... Not just that reason, but any reason.
Just give myself something to do and a reason
to hate them because I need to feel like I need
to back that up now that I've said it. I can't
change my mind. And you can, you can change your
mind. You can always have a different opinion
as you get older and you mature. You can always
rethink situations and people and You don't have
to agree with what other people say about the
person. You are the only person whose opinion
matters to you, if that makes any sense. But
your opinion is your opinion, and opinions are
like assholes. Every single person has one. So
it doesn't make sense to me why people go on
these crazy, go down these crazy rabbit holes
to try to destroy a celebrity, one, who doesn't
even know you exist, and two, has such a big
reach that it wouldn't even matter. Yeah. At
the same time, these celebrities have handlers,
they have publicists, they have people who take
care of that. A lot of times when celebrities
post like apologies or something like that, It's
not even dumb writing it. You know, if it's a
huge celebrity and it's like a text on Instagram,
like that a lot of times is just a text that
was written by their team to be like, this is
what you need to say in order to get out of more
trouble. But even then, you know, people don't
care and they don't see that as genuine, you
know what I mean? So yeah, it doesn't matter
if it's written by the celebrity or written by
their team, no matter what it. when you have
done something in the public eye and people don't
know how to have their own opinions and are afraid
to stand out from the crowd, they will just blindly
accept what's said about somebody, even if they
met that person and actually hung out with them,
you might think very differently. Yeah. Yeah,
I have a question for you because I'm pondering
this and I don't know if you agree to with this
or if you have thoughts but Do you think that
like so there's like Hollywood celebrities? In
my mind, there's like different kinds of celebrities.
There's the Hollywood celebrities. That's you
know, your actors your actresses Usually in like
TV shows big movies and then there's like YouTube
celebrities, you know Strictly on YouTube. Sometimes
they go into TV shows and stuff, but they're
mostly known and grew on YouTube do you think
there is a stronger worship culture with YouTube
celebrities versus TV celebrities because that's
how I Think it's going but I'm curious about
your thoughts. I think that at first when YouTube
was a thing no because it really just started
out as a fun way to share videos on the internet.
Now that people have gone from YouTube to movies
or YouTube to something very successful, I think
that line has been blurred. And so now YouTube
is almost seen as the way of not the easy way
of getting into Hollywood, but like a step to
get noticed, at least to put yourself out there
if you don't have the resources otherwise to
like go to LA or go and meet with people. Like
that's definitely something that I can see. Like
for me, having my singing covers out, like I
would love for one day if, you know, I had somebody
who was like, Oh, I love it. Like let's work
together. Cool. Um, but I don't expect that.
to be a reality. I think that people assume that
when somebody is starting to grow on YouTube
that they're automatically on the path to becoming
successful and being a bigger household name.
That's not the case. Like there are many people
who have a lot of YouTube success and they're
just comfortable in their life and they don't
move on to doing Hollywood or anything because
they don't want to. They just wanted to like...
play games or something and then their channel
blew up and You know, it's it's a success story
and yeah good for them, but I think it also discounts
a lot of people that are actually doing Some
of the actors and actresses and won't say all
of them but doing the work in Hollywood till
I get where they are Yeah, and they're not doing
YouTube. They're you know, they majored in these,
they majored in performing arts. Like they started
as a kid actor, as a child actor. They have like,
there's all these different avenues and these
different steps that people can take in order
to achieve that success. And not everybody gets
it. There's a lot of risk and, you know, things
that you have to settle for when it comes to
that. which is why I think it's interesting things
like, what is the word? Channels like Smosh.
Yeah. Which I love. I love their channel. I love
Smosh. I love Smosh. And, you know, they make
fun of it being like all the Disney, like child
actors come on and work at Smosh. But like, it's
kind of like, it's a nice thing because, you
know, in a way they have something to bond over
and they have, different, they have different
upbringings, they have different stories and
life paths, but they can share that one experience
with each other and work together and still be
acting. Maybe it's not in the way that they want
to be acting, you know, I'm sure that they all
would like to, at least some of them I know have
gone to do commercials and movies and, you know,
but that it's a gig by gig process. And when
I was younger, I didn't realize that I didn't
realize that that's how Hollywood worked, which
is why my parents were like, don't put all your
eggs in one basket with the acting stuff, because
it's legitimately it's you have to be really
lucky or really good and have a really good agent
to get constant work. Yeah. And that doesn't
happen for everybody. So it's nice to have something
to have that is stable. that's still what you
love to do. And so I like to watch Smosh because
I, you know, you get to see these actors who
genuinely enjoy being around other actors and
being around other creatives. And they're, a
lot of them are millennials and they make fun
of that a lot too. And I appreciate the millennial
humor because I am also a millennial. And people
still idolize them to the point of I'm sure when
they get, you know, they have fans come up and
meet them that fans are, you know, sometimes
uncomfortable towards them. Yeah. And you also
have to like think about that person. How do
I respond to the situation? I can't rude. I can't
like be like, you're freaking me out, bro. Like,
because then they're going to see that as, oh,
you're rude or oh, you didn't like me because
of X, Y, Z and it, it'll be taken out of context.
So. It doesn't matter if it's Hollywood or YouTube,
it doesn't matter. As long as you're in the public
eye in some way, there might be people who become
obsessed with that person, whether it's a good,
in a good way or a bad way. Like I don't think
there's ever a good way to be obsessed, but like
they're obsessed with them in like a worshiping
way or they're obsessed in like, I wanna ruin
your life way. And... both of those, there's
no middle ground. There's no gray area of, oh,
I just, I see you as a person and I enjoy your
work. And, you know, when you're younger, it's
harder to see it that way because you're so excited
and there's nothing wrong with that. But don't
be leaking personal information. Don't be sharing,
like making up stories about somebody or like,
you know, there's just been so much of that in
the world. And yeah. Celebrities go through so
much already that we don't see. And we just assume
that we know because of what we see in the media.
That's not even like an eighth of what these
people go through every day. Mm -hmm. I agree.
Do you think there's like... Because obviously,
you know, celebrities are just people. We've
made that point. Like, we basically beat that
point with the rock. But I guess, like, conversely,
like... because they're in the public eye so
much, do you think there is almost like a sense
of responsibility for celebrities to, you know,
be vocal about social issues or to be, um, on
the quote -unquote correct side of things? Um,
because obviously most of that can be, like,
very up to interpretation, but, like, do you
feel like there is... almost a pressure from
the general public towards celebrities to have
An opinion on anything political or anything
like because like yeah, that's it like not to
bring up chaperone again, but I but it's like
Um, because I remember vaguely one of her comfort
controversies that i've heard about I i'm gonna
probably get all the information wrong But the
gist of it is like, um, what I heard from someone
else who heard it from someone else was that,
um, she was talking about, I think the election
that just passed between, uh, good old 47 and,
uh, Kamala. And she said that because of Kamala's
stance, Like she didn't have like the most vocal
strong stance against Protecting those in Palestine
that she did not feel comfortable voting for
Kamala or 47 And So a lot of people were very
upset with her for voicing that opinion and it's
and you know, like I guess that brings back to
the question of like did she have the political
responsibility to be like to hide that opinion
of hers and be like oh no vote blue or you know
like oh vote vote this way like like obviously
celebrity endorsements do matter but do they
have to endorse to be to prove the fact that
they're like a good person or they're like They
care about rights like if you wanted someone's
true opinion and they give it to you And it's
not the true opinion that you want What you can't
be mad at that I would think I don't know what
it's like people being it's like people being
assholes like you know you ask and then you don't
like the answer like I I'm personally somebody
who doesn't understand a lot of politics like
I understand certain things. I majored in like
women's and gender studies. So I mainly am educated
when it comes to human rights, like LGBTQ IP
plus rights. I'm not I'm not very educated and
it comes to like oil and gas and taxes. And I'm
like, yeah, I understand any of this shit. Like,
I don't get it. So I'm not going to say anything
because I don't understand. And so I think a
lot of people just again, it goes back to like
you either need to be on our side or their side.
And it's us versus them. It's like that episode
in SpongeBob where they're having a snowball
fight. And it's like, Squidward's on my side.
No, this one is on my side. And it's like, Squidward's
like, no, I'm not on your side either. I'm on
nobody's side. Like, I'm just here. But that's
not allowed in society because society is like,
well, you need to be a part of something. You
need to be... either with us or against us and
there's no meaning and that's a horrible way
to think about things like people can have opinions
and not like I don't feel like people should
be getting harassed for you know how I don't
know I for that I think it for a celebrity they
do have I think some level of responsibility
to voice those opinions because they have such
a large reach that it's important for them to
talk about hard topics and important topics because
they can help with their reach educate the masses
on why these topics are important, why these
rights are important. I also feel like though
they should not be forced one way or another
just to appease public eye or like have to go
against their morals or their beliefs just to
stay like safe. Yeah. I feel like that's it's
like a way of keeping them silent and keeping
them complacent where they may not feel that
way. And I think that like politics get really
dicey because politicians are all like shady.
I feel like all of them. Absolutely. because
people in general are shady. So going into power
is just going to make you more shady. Like it's
just, it's like the worst kind of celebrity.
All eyes are on you. And I think it's people
all have different opinions and they all have
different morals. And instead of us like seeing
it that way, I think people want to They want
to demonize everything instead of the things
that need to be actually demonized. Yeah, I agree
with that. The issues like be demonized need
to be demonized. But if it's something as like,
so I don't know a lot about, you know, Chappell,
not, you know, I don't know about that situation.
So I'm not really going to comment on it. But
I mean, if if Chappell Rowan came out and said,
this is my opinion, like that's her opinion.
And she's allowed to have an opinion. Like it's
That doesn't mean that she's like, oh, go, you
know, like, middle finger to whoever. It just,
maybe she's unsure. Maybe there's, you know,
you don't know what's going on. You don't know.
Yeah. Yeah. And even then, it's like, I would
rather a celebrity tell me with their whole chest
an opinion they genuinely believe, because that...
Be real. Be real, be yourself, because I'd rather
a celebrity tell me straight up, like, hey, I
think trans kids should die, so I can be like,
okay, so your opinion doesn't matter, and I'm
not gonna support you anymore, because at that
point, if you're being your real, if on authentic
stealth, you're going to find people, so if you're
a good person and you're loud and proud about
the good things, that you believe in or the opinions
you have, you're going to have that support.
But if you try to hide opinions or hide your
thoughts, it's like, are you really a real person
or are you just being a little piece of shit
and being like a little PR angel just so that
way you could steal my 20 bucks to see your movie?
Like. It's it's one of those things where it's
like. I'd rather a celebrity, even if I don't
100 % agree with their opinion, I'd rather hear
them have an opinion on something that is very
nuanced than to be like, oh, yes, 100 % for this
one. That's the correct one, correct? You know,
like, it sounds so disingenuous if they just
regurgitate what everyone else is saying. It's
kind of like they have, like, a gun to their
head. kind of like it's like what does it say
the right thing or else like and then it goes
into like people thinking that they are responsible
for that celebrity success I'm the reason that
you're famous like my my two dollars listening
to your song on Spotify is the reason you're
no you're not like you're a part of the reason
they're famous and I'm sure they appreciate you
but don't get cocky like they're famous because
they got famous for themselves. They have talent,
you know, and some people don't really have that
talent, but you know what, it's, it's subjective
too. Like people that are so entitled to think
that they're the reason somebody has success
is a very arrogant way of looking at things.
And then that goes into the same thing of like,
well, because I helped you become successful,
you need to agree with me or I'm not going to
support you anymore. This person is still gonna
be doing what they're doing with or without your
support. They're gonna go on living their lives.
They're still gonna act, they're still gonna
make music. They're still gonna do what they're
gonna do and if you wanna kick the wall and scream
at the wall, go ahead, but you're not gonna get
anywhere except you're gonna just hurt yourself.
You need to do something productive if you don't
want to support somebody anymore, don't support
them. You don't have to make it everybody else's
problem. Just don't support them and go about
your business. Yeah. There's no reason for a
needless drama and spreading more negativity
into the world that we already have too much
of. And it's just, it's always, you know, we're
always so divided as people that the idea of
us ever coming together on anything seems like
so far -fetched, like it's never gonna happen
because we'll all want to be right. And it's
either they're right or it's like they're right
and you're wrong. There's no community. There
is no agreement. There's no middle ground. It's
just constant chaos. And it's sad and it's frustrating
because I can only imagine being somebody that
has that kind of reputation and reach for people,
I don't know if I would be able to handle that
because I would be like, I have massive anxiety
and I feel like it... I already try to like think
before I talk because a lot of times, to be really
honest, I feel like I sound stupid or like I
go on like rants and I make no sense. So a lot
of times I just either don't comment or I might
repeat the same thing and just in a different
way. But to me, it's because I'm like, I don't
I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, yeah,
it's like a lot of pressure for sure. Like I
also I I would rather die than being a celebrity
even if it's like Something that I would like
like, oh, I would love to get my art out there
I would love to be like well known and stuff,
but it's like I'd rather I'd rather just be in
a halt like I don't even Try like obviously there's
gonna be pictures of me out there because I live
in a digital age, but it's like I try to not
be associated, like associate my image, like
IRL, like my actual form with my digital space,
just because I'm like, I don't want anyone to
know who I am or what I look like, because that
is a lot of pressure. And again, it's a lot of
anxiety to be known as like, Oh, hey, I've seen
your face before. You're this guy. And I'm like,
I know I'm not. I'm just a guy. It's my doppelganger.
Yeah, it's just like, no, no, I just look like
him. I'm actually here for bananas. Like, I don't
know. Why are you talking to me? I'm in the Grateful
Store. Like, that's, again, like my biggest fear
is like being known as anything. I think it's
like wanting to be comfortable. I think a lot
of people think of fame as like, I don't want
to struggle anymore. Like I don't want to, you
know, have to like some people get into it for
the right reasons. Like for me, I, I would love
to. have a wider audience, but not to the point
where I don't feel the need to go to Hollywood
and be famous and blah, blah, blah, blah. I just
feel like for me, my goal at the end of the day
is to have a comfortable life where because of
the chronic illness that I have, working nine
to five is difficult for me. I still do it, but
it's difficult. If at some point I could just
work for myself and make enough money that I
could support myself, my family, and the people
that I'm working with, That's the dream. I don't
have to make millions of dollars, but I would
love to be able to be like, Hey, you know what,
let's get pizza and not worry about it. Yeah.
You know what I mean? I agree with that. Very
comfortable, like a good middle ground. I don't
need a Ferrari. I don't need a big house. Like
I don't need any of these things that as a kid,
I was like, Oh, I would love to be like famous
and have three mansions and you know, but as
I get older, I'm like, I just I just want to
be able to go out and, you know, go on random
dates with my wife and us not have to worry about
groceries or gas, things like that. And it doesn't
have to be a lot, but it just, just comfortable,
like just successful enough that people enjoy
the work that I do. And I can work for myself
so I can take some of that pressure off of myself
when I'm sick. And you know, it just, it feels
like it would my goal would be to be able to
do that because one, I have the ability to put
these stories out or put my voice out and do
those things that allow me to have a creative
outlet, but also give back to the creative community.
And I would love for that to be my full -time
job, but I also acknowledge that that's a very
difficult task and that doesn't happen for everybody.
And I'm okay with it not happening for me. Like
I, you know, I feel like I manifest that I will
be successful, but I also feel like I'm successful
in other ways in my life. Like I'm successful
in the way of I've learned a lot in the past
year. I've grown a lot as a person. I have done
so much work on myself just in the past year
that I, it's insane. how quickly and how drastically
you can change your mindset. You can change yourself
for the better or for the worse. Like just, you
know, you being a normal Joe or a celebrity,
they can change and they should be allowed to
have that change in that journey of finding out
who you are as a person and what... what calls
to you and calls to your heart and soul. That's
what's important at the end of the day. You are
with yourself at the end of the day. Like having
people agree with you is great, but what is the
cost if it's something that you don't truly believe
in or you're not standing behind it. You're just
doing it so that you don't get people being assholes
to you. And I think there's so much entitlement
now with the internet and with media that, you
know, even in interviews that I've seen with
like celebrities and they ask the guys like about
questions of, you know, what's your workout routine?
And then they talk to like the women are like,
oh yeah, you're wearing like the sexy cat suit.
Like, did you have to like eat anything specific?
I'm like, that is a personal. Like a question,
like why don't you ask them like, you're like
essentially asking them what kind of underwear
they're wearing. Like it's, can you talk to them
about who they are as a person? Maybe their process
of getting into character or like anything outside
of their appearance. And as a celebrity, a lot
of times you are reduced down to your appearance.
And then your appearance. factors into like your
talent. And it's, I think that there's, there's
sometimes there's moments where it does matter.
Like, I feel like people who see celebrities
getting very, very sick, clearly, they say something
because maybe they do honestly care. And it's
good that the community in those ways come together.
But You have to think about it in a way of not
shaming that person because that's not gonna
help. It's just more trying to give words of
encouragement and words of like, hey, we noticed
that you look a little thinner. Like, are you
okay? Do you need help? And then putting that
responsibility on the team around them because
those people are handling. this person, they
are responsible directly for this person's health.
They need to be held accountable. If you're like,
oh, I own you, like as you are now the person
that works for me, you're my talent. You need
to take care of that person then. Yeah. Like
you don't own them. They can do whatever the
fuck they want with their body. You need to make
sure they're okay. You need to make sure that,
you know, if they're not on their A game and
they're not okay, They're not healthy. They're
not going to be able to do their job. Yeah. So
that's directly not only affecting them, but
you as well as their manager or their handler
or whatever. So the internet saying, are you
okay? I think that's something that's good when
the community comes together to share concern.
It's not okay when they're like, uh, looking
like a skeleton. Oh, dead emoji. Like, you don't
gotta be mean about it. Right. Like, what is
that gonna help? Do you feel better? Do you feel
better about yourself? Like, what is that gonna
do other than make somebody feel worse about
themselves? It's not helpful. You're not funny,
and you're not smart. You're not like, it's just
one of those things when I see comments like
that, I'm like, you clearly have nothing better
to do with your own life. Than to like sit here
and try to shit on a celebrity who is just trying
to survive Yeah, like the rest of us Because
they may not have to worry about money, but that
doesn't mean that they're not worried about other
things Yeah You know So they could be dealing
with a lot of things that we don't see and especially
with people online who are constantly harassing
them or doing these horrible things like It's
just a lot, it's very layered. It comes with
a lot of like, oh, my talent got me here and
now this is what I have to deal with. Which is
a terrible position to be in. It's like, oh,
well, this is what I have to do now. It's like,
no, no. Then you don't know who your real friends
are half the time. When you reach a certain level
of fame, a lot of people are like, what can I
get from you? Yeah, which is very disgusting.
Terrible. Right. And that's how the world is.
And I keep saying, as I go into my spirituality,
I'm like, if we reincarnate, I hope to God I'm
not reincarnated again. I don't want to be here,
bros. I want to live on Mars. I want to be like
a bug for a little bit. I just want to be like
a bug. Yeah, you know what I want to be a bug
at least like seven times and then and then we'll
loop around we'll see how I feel right like just
I Think we're humans have the ability to Be like
the greatest thing that's happened to the world
and the worst thing that's happened to the world
at the same time yeah, and You know, there's
just There's just a lot of like I don't even
know what the word is, but it's so, human beings
are so complicated, but I feel like if everybody
had more self -awareness and able to self -reflect
on things, we would be able to move towards a
better future as people and try to come together.
But I feel like at the same time, unfortunately,
in the way that people just are naturally wired,
like there's gonna always be shitty people. And
there's always going to be people who are like,
no, no, I'm right. And you're wrong. And I'm
not willing to, I'm not willing to budge because
I can't have a mature conversation or see your
side because that means that I'm wrong. That
doesn't mean you're wrong. It just means that
you're having a conversation with somebody. So
to me, it's, I would hope that I see a lot of
comments of people like, oh, celebrity worship
is so cringe, stop worshiping celebrities. And
I'm like, well, it starts with you. You're saying
it's cringey, then just don't do it. And don't
engage with people who are doing it. Don't give
the attention to people. It's a lot of people
who are like, oh, you need to... You need to
fight back. You need to say words because this
person's saying something about you. Why? I don't
care what this person thinks of me. Like I know
who I am. The people that love me and care about
me know who I am. I don't need to prove myself
to you. Like, especially if you're somebody who's
hell bent against, like, if you're somebody who's
hell bent on making me look bad or just hating
me. Yeah. Why would I even try? Because anything
that I say or do at this point, you're just going
to turn around and be like, I'm going to turn
that into something bad. There's no use talking
to you. You do not have a mature mindset. So
and celebrities don't get that option to have
conversations with people like that. They just
have to deal with it. And if they don't have
a really thick skin, I can only imagine like
They're going through comments and seeing things
and videos made about them and things put out
at the end. It's so upsetting. And this is why
some celebrities have passed in the past because
it's like just having all of that on you and
not feeling like you know who you can trust and
where to turn to and where to vent. it's like
you were trapped in the world's smallest box.
Yeah. And I'm not famous by any means. Like,
I don't have any notoriety at all. And I mean,
yeah, I can still sit here and empathize with
people that do and be like, you know, God, I
know I can understand why celebrities have breakdowns
or, you know, they have moments because it's
like you are so controlled and under a microscope
that At some point, the money you make just isn't...
I don't even feel like it's enough. And then
you're in it, you can't get out of it if you're
under a contract with somebody. And there's scandals
all over the place where celebrities have come
forward after that and have said, you know, I
finally got out of this situation and then a
lot of people will support them or... But that
doesn't stop the situation from happening again
either. Yeah. So it's just, it's just a constant
revolving door of pain. And it's sad to watch.
Like people can't just do what they love and
enjoy doing what they love without fearing that
some random person is gonna make a video about
them. And then all the other sheep are gonna
flock. Mm -hmm. And then they're not gonna be
able to do what they love anymore. Because they
said something ten years ago that was off -color,
but not actually, like, damning. Yeah. Know what
I mean? Like, and just to be clear, we're not
talking about people who have actually done,
like, serious bad things who need to be held
accountable and... Like, felonies. We're not
talking about people who have done felonies or
were accused of doing felonies. Like... Yeah.
You know, we're talking stuff like, you know,
bullying a kid in high school or middle school,
and they're, like, in their 30s now, where it's
just like, okay, you're a different person than
you were as an angry middle schooler. Yeah, you're
a dumbass kid. Like... Yeah. I'm sorry. I thought
humans were allowed to grow and mature and change,
and, like, when you have life lessons... That's
what they're for. There's not one person in the
world who is perfect, who has never done anything
wrong or said anything wrong or hurt somebody.
We've all hurt somebody. We've all been hurt
by somebody. Nobody is perfect. Every single
person in the world makes mistakes, some more
than others. And what really matters at the end
of the day is you being able to see that you
made that mistake, acknowledge it. and grow from
it, because that makes you a better person. If
you're like, oh, I made a mistake, but now I
feel bad and I'm a terrible person and no one's
ever gonna love me, and you spiral, that's another
way you can think about it, but you're never
gonna progress in your life if you think about
it like that. One of my bullies from middle school,
high school actually, I don't even remember when
it was, it was during college, but she was my
best friend in middle school and then going into
high school. And then high school, she believed
a rumor that was going around about me. At the
time, it was literally that I was bisexual, and
I was a very good Christian girl at this time
at home. And I was very upsetting spaghetti on
what was being said. And you know what the rumor
started with? You want to know? What? Literally.
Somebody came up to me, this is ridiculous, okay?
Somebody came up to me and was like, Reign, do
you like bananas or apples better? And I said
I liked both. Oh my god, that's so stupid. It
turned into the entire school saying that I was
bisexual and I was gonna go to hell. Oh my god.
Really? And then my friend was like, oh my god,
we can't be friends anymore. And I went home
crying on my fucking birthday. Oh, no. Because
I was so upset, and here I am, married to a woman.
Which could mean anything. It's totally uncorrelated,
unrelated. I always had the feeling that that
was it, but there was so much shame that came
with it because of how I grew up. Right, obviously.
My family's obviously grown a lot too, and they
at first were like, no, but now they're - they're
better and they accepted you know but it's it's
stupid things like that that even it was word
of mouth so like it got around the whole school
just because people talk and then that's like
the same thing that's before the internet was
even a thing like it all starts with a rumor
something stupid and then you go home crying
on your birthday because people think you like
girls because you say you like apples and it
resembles a vagina like i don't know like I'm
sorry that I enjoy a variety of fruits that does
not make me fruity. Right. I think it's more
like how you eat the fruit than it is what the
fruit is. Yeah, that's that's exactly how it
is. And it's the dumbest thing. And so after
all of that, like I was traumatized because of
that, because it was like the whole school was
making fun of me. And I wish I was joking, but
I wasn't like. It was just toxic. And then years
and years later, as you know, I'm pretty sure
it was like age, like 22, somewhere around there,
like after I graduated from college and like
a little bit after that, she had messaged me
and she just was like, Hey, I don't expect a
response or forgiveness, but I just want to acknowledge
like, that it was that plus there was like, they
formed like a gang at school and she was a part
of that and then they were sending me like death
threats in my locker and shit and it just was
like a whole situation that was crazy and she
was like I was stupid and young and I want to
apologize for the pain that I caused you and
just let you know that I'm trying to be a better
person now and I was like Girl, apology accepted.
Like, I hope you're doing good. Like, I hope
you are doing well and you were being a queen.
Like, blessed be, girl. Like, I hold no ill will
towards you now. Like, just... And that's all
it takes sometimes is people just acknowledging
and just saying they're sorry. Yeah. And the
people who can, they can hold grudges and they
can be like, I'm still mad at you. Like, okay,
that's a choice. Yeah. Or you can have less weight
on your heart and soul and be like, oh, thank
you. I acknowledge that. And I don't feel like
we would be compatible as friends, but I wish
you no ill will. And I'm, you know, I'm glad
that we were able to close that chapter and have
closure. And I mean, at that time, I would say
that in that friendship specifically, I would
say that I didn't do much to apologize back to
her. If that makes sense, like, um, I definitely
have stories I can tell about, you know, like
when I've reached out to somebody, like I reached
out to my ex a couple of years ago, who I know
that I really upset and I apologize to her and
now we're friends and we just, we talked about
what happened and we were like, you know, there
was a lot of misunderstandings that happened
with the breakup. And we were all, we were both
very young at the same time as well. I was like
19. And, but I know that I really hurt her and
I really hurt her heart. And so when I apologized
to her, we had a whole conversation. I was, I
was crying. She was crying and we were just like
letting it all out and you know, she's married
now and I'm married and we're still friends.
We don't talk a lot, but. we vibe, like, I'll
see you on TikTok and I'll be like, What's up?
She's like, What's up? Like, you know, like,
it's it's the maturity. Like, and it's it's just
being able to be like, I acknowledge that I'm
not always right. I had a I had something to
do with this. Like you can't always apologize
to the celebrity. But you can start by being
a better person and taking those steps to see
things from a different perspective other than
only seeing up to your nose. You have to really
evaluate why the situation happened and what
you did to contribute to it. And maybe you weren't
as in the wrong as somebody else. That doesn't
mean that you didn't do anything wrong. It doesn't
mean that you don't have anything to take accountability
for. But people in our world now are like, Nope,
you do one thing and you're damned for eternity.
You're not allowed to grow. You're not allowed
to change. You're not allowed to have any redeeming
qualities about yourself at all. Yeah. It's a
very immature, childish, and negative mindset
to have. And that, at the end of the day, for
people like that, who do that to people that
they barely know, celebrities, people that they
know, I have a family member that's like that,
and he's just miserable. Like, he's in his 70s
now. He has no friends. And he's just miserable
because he can never... He doesn't talk to anybody
about what he's feeling. He doesn't do anything
about it. He just holds it all inside and just
is like, yeah, well, you know, I hate everybody.
Which is just a tragic way to live. Right. Like
you just live alone. And, you know, he, he had
a dog and when his dog passed, like he had no
one because he pushes everybody away. He's never
like had a relationship. He doesn't have friends.
He just lives alone and just like, I haven't
talked to him in so long because he doesn't even
want to talk to his family. And it's all it would
take was like a conversation and I was the only
one for a long time that reached out to him or
called him or said anything to him. And I, yeah,
like out of my entire family, we're Lebanese.
We have a big family. Like, I'm just saying,
like we'll go to like I went to a family get
together when I was younger. It was like 300
people that were like, thank God. I was like,
I don't know any of you. I am overwhelmed, but.
I would always try to reach out to him and have
a conversation with him. And anytime I'd ask
him like, Oh, you have a girlfriend or what are
you doing? Like trying to be whatever. And he's
like, Oh, you know, I don't do that. Oh, that's
a stupid question. Like, and it just very like
talking to a brick wall. So as much as I would
love to reach out to him again, I stopped after
a while because it just like, It was, since I
was a kid till even in my twenties, he just never
engaged because he just wanted to be a hermit.
And that's it. He didn't join us for holidays.
He never calls anybody. Like he just isn't like
in a box. And it's so sad because I see his soul.
I don't know what he's been through because he'd
never talks about it, but I see his soul. I know
he's a good person. Yeah. But he never lets anybody
in. He never takes any accountability. He never
has conversations with people. He just sits there
in spirals. And just lets it consume him. And
that's a way that I never want to be. Because
I don't want to die alone, you know, like I don't
want to die thinking that there was nobody around
who would even notice if I was gone. I wouldn't
even know if he passed away. I don't even know
how anybody would know because he doesn't talk
to any of us. The only way we would probably
find out is if he listed somebody as an emergency
contact, which I don't even think he has. To
be really honest, I don't even know if he's alive
right now. That's insane. It's, it's really sad.
And like, as a kid, like I loved this man as
a kid, like he's, you know, he did some weird
shit, but like, you know, he's not a bad guy.
He just, I think he, he's kind of one of those
people that's like, the world owes me something.
And because I'm not getting it, I'm just gonna
be a recluse and not talk to anybody or even
try. And That's like an extreme example, but
it's in my immediate family. So I always use
him as an example of like, don't be like that.
Yeah. Talk to people. And if they're not willing
to talk to you or have a mature conversation
with you, then move on. It's not worth your time.
If you're ready to have mature conversations
with people and grow as a person. That's great,
but not everybody is in that same boat and not
everybody's willing to do the work And that's
that's sad, but you can't force somebody to do
something they don't want to do So yeah The same
thing with celebrities I feel like they have
to do that work too. It's it's not just us, you
know average Joe's celebrities have to have the
mindset of You know if I do something It's broadcasted.
More people see it. Yeah. And so I need to, but
I don't, I also feel like celebrities feel the
need to like explain themselves to people. You
need to explain yourself to yourself first. Oh,
absolutely. Yeah. You know, work on that shit
within yourself first. Cause otherwise you're
just performing. So people, I feel like always
feel like they need to perform in order to be
accepted as people. But I also feel like at the
same time, we need to be able to fail and to
make mistakes and grow from them to be considered
human because we can't just be perfect all the
time or bad all the time. That's not realistic.
So, yeah, I mean, that's my spiel. Well, I think
we've been talking for like an hour. Yeah. I
think that's a really good message to leave it
on because just like look for that connection.
And don't, you know, like if you're going to
grow as a person, do it for yourself. Don't do
it just because society... is calling for an
apology. If you don't mean it, you're not gonna
mean it. It'll just make things worse if you
get a quote unquote call out for an opinion you
have and you immediately are like, oh, I'm so
sorry. Totally, I'm so sorry. And it's like,
no one's gonna believe you. It's not gonna help.
No, work on yourself. That's the first you gotta
do. You gotta sit with yourself and be uncomfortable.
You gotta be uncomfortable. Yep. and also respect
people and their boundaries and all that stuff.
Celebrities are, people do, and they deserve
both criticism and respect for their lives and
what they do. As does everybody, and self -reflection
hurts. It's supposed to. Yep. If you're self
-reflecting, you're like, God, I'm such a good
person. You're not self -reflecting. Chill on
your ego, boo. You're not self -reflecting if
you're not finding anything wrong that you've
done or anything that you can change or better
about yourself. Self -reflection is always the
core of making you a better person because you
have to really dig deep and find out. Think about
yourself from another person's perspective that
you've had conversations with or that you've
had an issue with. If I were this person, and
this takes empathy, which some people don't have,
and that's very sad. If I were this person and
this happened to me, how would I feel? Yeah.
Is this really worth me doing this? Is this worth
me saying this? Like, how would I feel if all
of this was happening to me? That is how you
start self -reflecting, because then you feel
like, oh, this other, this person has feelings
too. Crazy. Just because they're a celebrity
doesn't mean you're not a person. Your job does
not mean you're not a person. I would respect
a janitor as much as I would respect a celebrity.
So just my advice. would be like I don't have
my tarot cards up here, but maybe I'll start
doing that next time. At least what I'm hearing
is really sit with yourself for at least a good
five minutes a day and just reflect because that
is what I've been doing. Thinking about pick
something that happened in the past or something
that's currently happening that you are struggling
with. Really sit down and you don't have to do
anything. You can just sit quietly with yourself
and just think and just feel. And some people
can't do this like for different reasons, but
the people that want to better themselves that
genuinely listen to this podcast for, you know,
relatable reasons and wanting to be better. Like
I'm not somebody who's like, I'm higher than
now. I'm giving you advice. Like I'm telling
you what I do. every day and what has really
helped me in the past is like going through situations
where I'm like, oh, I'm mad at this person. Wait,
why am I mad at this person? Yeah. How did the
situation actually play out? Let me see this
from every point of view that I can and sit and
reflect on it. Try your best to see everything
from a neutral position. and not from a I want
to feel right because if I did something wrong,
I'll feel really bad about it. Because just in
general, you're always going to do something
wrong. You're always going to end up hurting
somebody, even if you don't mean to. It's just
the way that humans are because we're not all
robots. We're not the same. We have different
opinions. You're always going to be wrong in
somebody else's eyes. Yeah. And the only way
that we can come together and be more united
as people is having that more mindful mindset
of seeing each other as on the same level. We're
not better than each other. We're not worse than
each other. We all have to sit and do the work,
which is in, you know, spirituality, do that
shadow work that's really uncomfortable within
you that really makes you think about things
that you've done and said. and reflect on that
and use that as a way to better yourself as a
person. If it's uncomfortable, you're doing it
right. Yep. And that's that on that. Yep. So
closing thoughts are stop worshiping celebrities.
They're just people like be kind to everybody.
Nobody's better than anybody else. And Try to
really better yourself every day a little bit
every day helps and don't spread negativity because
that That tarnishes your heart and your soul
that puts a lot of weight on your person that
you have to carry around and it's just nicer
to be lighter and positive so work on that work
on trying to see things in a nicer or positive
light see situations and a more positive light
and use that as a way to better yourself as a
person. So yeah. Thank you guys for listening.
And we will be back. Probably I've been posting
like once a month for podcasts, so I can kind
of schedule them out. And that's been working.
If I'm able to do more often, I will. But for
now, it's, you know, the scheduling out has been
good. So at least we're getting one out a month.
So not a lot, but quality over quantity. But
yeah, Gabe, thank you for joining me. It's always
a pleasure. Yes, and do you want to tell them
where they can find you? Sure, you can find me
also on YouTube as GalenQuest, G -A -E -L -I
-N Quest on YouTube. I do art videos sometimes.
I'm working on a video now that I just need to
record the audio for and edit. That's just me
in my fascination. But yeah, that's where you
can find me. All right. Awesome. Well, we will
be back soon with another podcast. Until then,
sending everybody love and light. Take care of
yourself, drink water, and be kind.