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Hey everyone, my name is Austin and welcome back

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to another episode of the unfiltered faith podcast

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If the his is your first time tuning in I'm so

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glad you're here. And if you've been here before

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welcome back Today I'm Joe Wayne by a very special

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guest founder of the Fullerton professional organizing

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and coaching and I'm gonna let her introduce

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herself and then we're gonna get it started Hi,

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my name is Carrie and I started Fullerton professional

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organizing as a business. I do go into people's

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homes, but I also have a podcast and what I deal

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with is. We talk about decluttering our faith.

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We talk about decluttering our home and we talk

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about decluttering our business on the podcast.

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But those are really all the things that I also

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deal with when I help people organize. We don't

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always dive into the faith, but it's always part

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of me. So when we need to, there have been times

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I've had clients ask. You know what? I'm feeling

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a little overwhelmed. Can we pray? And I will

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pray with them. And then I have others that we

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don't talk about faith at all. But yet I know

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that I bring God with me, even if we don't talk

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about it. How did the Holiton's professional

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organizing and coaching come to life? Well, I

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really believe it's a God story because Just

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a little background. I used to be a teacher.

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I only taught in Christian school and then parochial

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schools opened up and I was teaching four -year

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-olds at the time and at that time where I live

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the four -year -olds couldn't go for free unless

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they Were Spanish speaking only so when the parochial

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schools opened up four -year -olds could go to

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public school no matter whether they spoke English

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or not. So the school went from three four year

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old teachers down to one. And I happened to be

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one that was laid off. Then I wound up working

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the outside sales for Sam's club. Now it was

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approaching my eighth year. When sands club corporate

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wise eliminated the outside sales department.

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So for a few years, it was just rumors and I

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had been praying Lord, you know, what am I going

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to do? I was a teacher, but I did not want to

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teach in public school. And as many, when you're

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in a situation where your job is going to end

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and you just want God's direction. Like I said,

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it was rumors for a good while. So I prayed over

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all kinds of ideas. Then I had asked my boss.

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I said, Hey, it's a rumor. Have you heard anything?

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He said, no, I have not yet. It's still just

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a rumor. We don't know. So then COVID hit and

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boy. I tell you work at Sam's when COVID hits

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and the lines are all the way around the building

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and you did outside sales. You didn't actually

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work in the store and now you're working in the

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store. That was something else. So I worked for

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the first two years of COVID and that was quite

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an experience, but those experiences, once you've

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gone through some of the work experiences that

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I've gone through, especially COVID, your confidence

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level is way up here because you've been through

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the hardest stuff you can possibly go through.

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Then I started getting asked on Facebook if I

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organized for pay because when I was a teacher

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every summer, I would post all the things I did

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in my home during the summer and it was always

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organizing. So people already knew my organizing

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skills and I had a 21 year dress up tea party

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business. So I had already earned trust from

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everyone on Facebook, just from them seeing all

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the stuff that I do, but I had never really thought

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about starting an organizing business. And so

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it sparked an interest in seeing whether I could

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do that. A page take a course to see if I could

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do it. And actually everything in the course

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was everything I had already learned from that

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person on YouTube. It was just a repeat of everything

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I had already been watching this YouTuber do.

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So I did that. And then I started a Facebook

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page. That Monday, my boss said, well, the rumors

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have come true. I mean, this was on a Saturday

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that I started my Facebook page just to see if

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it would stick. And on that very Monday, he called

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me and my supervisor into the office and said

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that the shoe had dropped. and that it indeed

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our position was going to be eliminated. We could

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either choose to work in the store or take the

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package. And I went ahead and took the package

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and started my organizing business. I did start

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getting clients from friends, you know, at the

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very beginning. And that was August 1st. And

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I had tell November is when my position was truly

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going to end. And that's how it started. That's

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how come I knew it was a guide thing. I don't

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know. Someone calls and says, Hey, do you do

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this for pay? And then you start researching

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courses and a Facebook page. And then that very

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Monday, my, you know, so to me, I just thought

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it was. a miracle to have it happen just within

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that same weekend when it had been a couple of

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years before COVID that the rumors had started.

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I had been praying for a few years, just waiting

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for that shoe to drop and not really knowing

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which direction to go. And that's how it happened.

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And I just was so grateful. It's so interesting

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how in all of that, God was Just making sure

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that your needs were met and like, it's all in

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his hands really. And we need to trust God and

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say, God, this is not my will, but yours. Just

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take it over. So you also have a podcast all

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it's in professional organizing and coaching

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your slogan is it cluttering your faith and decluttering

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your home and Did it cluttering your business

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and you go into each one of those three and explain

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further? What those yes in decluttering our faith,

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of course my belief in God and trust in God is

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definitely a factor. But with some, it could

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be just someone that, you know, their spouse

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passed away and now they have to let go a lot

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of their spouse's belongings or their child's

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belongings. And having someone come alongside

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them, that's not gonna just come in there and

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push them to get rid of everything. Oh, you don't

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need it. They're no longer here. Let's just get

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rid of everything. But someone that can come

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alongside them and let them cry, let them process

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it slowly. Not that I don't work fast, but I

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don't push them to work quickly. Sometimes it

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can be a divorce that they've gotten over. Sometimes.

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Now, this is where I use my mom as an example.

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Um, my mom had a lot of insecurities growing

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up. She didn't feel like she fit in at all. There

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was no peer group that she fit into. So her insecurities,

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everything that makes her valuable or is her.

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And sometimes when we put our identity, our things,

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our value in our things. Instead of we hold on

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to a lot of unnecessary things or we buy a lot

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of expensive unnecessary things because it's

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medicating something in us, some insecurity,

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some place that's hurt that we're trying to medicate.

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And that's where I see the decluttering your

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faith aspect of my business and my podcast, because

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there is a lot that people use things to make

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them feel important, make them feel pretty, make

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them feel like they're valuable when people are

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valuable just for the fact that God created them.

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And that's where the faith part comes in, you

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know, and there's a lot of bitterness. There's

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a lot of things that So any hurt that anyone

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has been through can cause them or it can even

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go back as far as my grandparents going through

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the depression and having to be forced to hang

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on to even those little plastic things that avocados

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come in so they can reuse it to scrub pots and

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pans. Because during the depression, you have

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to use and reuse and recycle everything. Therefore,

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there's a lot of fear in letting go because what

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if you will need it? Those what ifs are out of

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fear. I've had clients say, I need to have a

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lot and I'm talking a lot of tea and coffee because

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if the whole world comes to an end, I need my

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tea and coffee. There's a lot of fear behind

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holding on to things also. So there's, you know,

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the fact that your identity is tied up into things

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and then there's the fear of what if. So that's

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really where that part came from. And then the

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decluttering our home and our business just falls

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under that. What is getting in the way of where

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we want our house to look at aesthetically? Are

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we spending a lot of times looking for our car

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keys or right now because we had a renovation

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done, we can't find a remote to our TV. You know,

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how much time, in our case we had this time,

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we have a good excuse for not being able to find

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our remote because our whole entire house was

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out on our patio until the renovation. And then

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it was on the other side of the house until the

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other half of the house was renovated. So we

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can't find the remote, but a lot of times it's

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normal life. You know, your kids can't find their

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shoes in the morning before school and you can't

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find your car keys because you misplaced them.

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Having a place for everything has a way of helping

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us find the things that get lost very easily.

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It's kind of like a toothbrush. What do we do?

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We don't typically lose our toothbrush, right?

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Because it always has a place. And it's always

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an arm length, right? You brush your teeth unless

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you put it on the other side of the bathroom.

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But usually it's right there by the sink. You

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brush your teeth and you put it back. Or you

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might, you know, some may leave it right there

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on the countertop, but at least it's there. You

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can find it. Well, it's the same concept. You

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know, having a place for your keys so you can

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find them every morning. What would achieving

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a sense of organized bliss mean to you personally

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or professionally? Well, I have some ADHD. Everything.

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You don't typically procrastinate because you

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will forget. Always writing things down so you

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won't forget. Always and sometimes as someone

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with ADHD, there's time blindness. Time can go

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by really, really fast and then cause you to

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be late to something that you need to be on time

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with as well. So always scheduling and a little

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buffer time between appointments so that you

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can make it to your appointments on time. So

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for me, organization had to be intentional. I

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was a teacher. So no one wants to go into a classroom

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and meet the teacher and the teacher can't even

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be on time or on task. Right. So to be professional,

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everything has to be organized and intentional.

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You know, there might be some careers and some

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businesses that You don't have to be as intentional

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on, but there are others where professionalism

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is everything. And when you have ADHD, it's even

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more important because it's not that you're not

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intelligent. It's just that you're mine. Here's

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what happens with ADHD. This is what I would

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love. people to understand. They say ADHD is

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not being able to focus, but it really isn't

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that. What it is, it's as if someone's speaking

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to you in English. Let's say, you know, three

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languages. Okay. You know them, right? You know,

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three languages. So it's not that you're not

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smart. You know, three languages, but if three

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people are talking to you in those different

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languages. One person's talking to you in English,

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one's talking to you in Spanish, and one is talking

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to you in French at the same time. And you're

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trying to pay attention to all three of them.

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Even though you know all three languages, that's

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what ADHD is like. Your mind is paying attention

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to everything around you at the same time. And

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that's why it becomes hard. So it's kind of a,

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you know, it's the opposite of what most people

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think. And another thing, being a Christian,

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no, you don't have to receive that. You don't

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have to receive that. I didn't know I had ADHD

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most of my life. You don't know these things

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until they're diagnosed. So sometimes when You

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are going through ADHD and you finally get a

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diagnosis. You're like, oh, now I get it. Now

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I can fix it. Now I can do something about it.

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I can write things down. I can be more organized.

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I can do things that will help me stay on track.

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And that is really the thing about ADHD where

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everybody in the Christian community think, oh,

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well, let's, let's lay hands on you and heal

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it or don't confess it. Don't say it out loud.

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You know, I like people to know I have some ADHD

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so that they understand when I'm in the middle

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of a sentence and I forget what I'm saying, which

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a lot of people do do that. But I can be in front

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of 200 people and then be in the middle of a

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sentence and forget what I'm saying. And that's

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kind of embarrassing. So as you can tell, don't

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usually have a problem talking. So if I forget

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what I'm saying, then I have to explain. Sorry.

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A little bit of an ADHD moment, but everybody

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wants to. pray over it or you're going to own

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it. I think knowing that your ADHD just is such

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a relief because you've wondered your whole life

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why your thought processes were not like everybody

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else's. And I'm not going to use the word normal

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and abnormal because That's not it. You just

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spend your whole life wondering why your thought

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processes aren't like everybody else's. And you

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finally get a diagnosis that can be fixed with

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organization can also be a superpower. Let's

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say you find something that like professional

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organizing that you're passionate about. I can

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stay focused on that career forever. It's kind

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of like that saying when. doesn't seem like work,

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but you get paid to do something that you really,

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really enjoy. It's not like work at all. Would

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you be able to offer some tips or tricks to someone

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with ADHD to declutter? What I do with clients

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that have ADHD is I tell them, let's not overthink

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it. Let's start with the things that you already

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know you're ready to get rid of. The things that

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you're bored with, the things that you already

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know you're ready to get rid of. Start small.

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When it came to my kids, the way I taught them

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to clean their rooms was kind of the same way

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I handled decluttering with clients. First, let's

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start with the smallest thing. Let's declutter

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anything here that is trash, like a clothes pin.

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It's like, you kept this just in case. Do you

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really need it? We can throw the clothes pin

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away. You're probably never going to use it,

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especially since it's been in this drawer broken

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and all you had to do is put it back together.

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And you never did that. It sat in the drawer.

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Start small. Always start small. And sometimes

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with ADHD, It depends on how severe ADHD is.

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In my case, I can start with a bathroom drawer,

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but some people have to start before the bathroom

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drawer. They have to start with first on my list

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is get up and put my shoes on. Second, I've got

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to get dressed. Third, what will I need before

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I declutter that drawer? A trash bag. or a donation

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box. It just depends on how severe the ADHD is

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or where their tasks start. And it can be easy

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as, as simple as, okay, let's start with getting

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a trash bag. You know, it just depends on the

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person, but we start with the easy stuff first,

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the stuff that you're not attached to. You never

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start with sentimental items. And we just start

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small. And then what we do is we figure out what

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we want that space to look like. And will all

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my makeup fit in that drawer now? We decluttered,

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but the makeup still doesn't fit. I still can't

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shut the drawer. Well, that means we need to

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get rid of just enough so that the drawer closes

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or the drawer looks the way you envisioned it.

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to look like. Some people have to see all their

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items. So what looks organized to one person

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may not be to someone with ADHD. Some may be

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able to put it in a bin and not see it and label

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the bin. Some may have to put it in a clear bin

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so that they can still see it, not forget it's

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there. So those are, those are a lot of tips.

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Some tips that I use to keep myself on task.

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If I put something on and I see that it's torn,

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that will go into the trash. But if it's something

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that just simply doesn't fit me right, or I know

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I'm not going to ever wear it again, it might

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go right into the donation bin or having a bin

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next to your bed. If that's where you tend to

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take your shoes off every day, you put your shoes

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in a bin under your bed and slide it under your

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bed. Or here's another thing that is misunderstood.

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Organization doesn't mean your house is magazine

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clean all the time and in order all the time.

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What organization does is it gives a place for

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every single item that you have. so that it's

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not overflowing and you can close the drawers.

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You have room for everything. So when it is time

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for company or family or holiday, you're able

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to be like, oh, it'll just take me 15 minutes

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to clean up because everything has a place to

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go. It doesn't mean your house is in order all

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the time, especially if you have kids. But where

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do the toys go? Is there a bin in the living

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room because your kids tend to play with their

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toys in the living room? You can buy a bin with

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a lid and right before if someone says, hey,

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I'll be there in 15 minutes and they didn't tell

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you ahead of time and you only have 15 minutes,

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get a laundry basket and pick up everything,

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put it in a laundry basket. When your guest leaves,

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put things away from the laundry basket. just

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one item at a time. But visually, you have a

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clean space already. Now all you have to do is

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just put it away. So I have ADHD. The difference

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between ADHD clean and non ADHD clean. Can you

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explain the difference between the two? Let's

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see. ADHD clean is when someone and I think this

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is where you're headed is where you think, okay.

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He says, well, I think I need to take a shower

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and wake up before I can go work out. And then

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they think. Yeah, but if I go work out, I'm still

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going to need another shower and I need workout

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clothes. It just goes from one thought to another.

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Before you know it, you're exhausted and you

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don't go work out because you had to do all these

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other tasks where another person would just get

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up, put their work up clothes and go work out.

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But you've got all these tasks that you have

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to complete before you can even go work out and

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you're distracted by all the things that you

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have to get done before you can, you know. But

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what is your take on the same question that you

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just asked? So my ADHD clean, it's not going

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to be as clean as someone who doesn't have it.

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So my organization is. I like to call it controlled

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chaos. So it's like, it's in one corner of the

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room, but this one corner of the room is a mess.

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The rest of the room is completely clean, but

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this one corner. Yeah. I had a client. Now she

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tends to throw all of her clothes on the floor

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in the closet instead of hanging them up. So

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I told her, I said, you know what? I can't fix

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this habit that you already have unless you work

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hard at it and you have to want to fix that and

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you can fix it. But here's one change. Put a

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laundry basket, cause those can be tall and big

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and you can fill those up. Just a basket, the

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laundry basket that you take it and put it into

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the washing machine. You know that one, not the

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dirty camper is what I mean. Instead of. putting

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them on the floor, put them in a laundry basket.

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When that laundry basket is full, that's one

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load of laundry. That way you can pile all you

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want, but instead of being on the floor, it's

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in a basket. This is what that does. One, it

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gives you a signal, the basket is full, that's

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one load of laundry. It also keeps you from having

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to say, I've got to go do laundry. I have to

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pick all of this stuff up and put it in a basket

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first before I can even put it in the washing

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machine. But this way, if you have a laundry

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basket, it's already in the basket. You don't

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have to pick up the clothes. You just pick up

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the basket and put it in the washing machine.

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That is very helpful for people with ADHD. Same

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with doing the dishes. Sometimes there's a signal

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that we've filled up the sink with dirty dishes

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and now we have to take those dishes out of the

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sink to fill it with clean soapy water and then

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wash the dishes. But if you have a bin on the

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countertop, you put all the dirty dishes in the

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bin, you don't get all that grime from the dishes

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on your countertops. It's in a bin. Then the

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sink is empty and you fill it up with soapy water.

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Little tweaks that signal your brain and go,

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okay, the bin is full of dishes. My sinks not

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full of dishes. So I don't have to do the work

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before the work. Anything that keeps you from

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doing the work before the work makes it easier.

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All right, we have about five minutes left. Is

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there any last minute? Which what would you like

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to say? First of all, I want to say thank you

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Austin for having me on it has been a pleasure

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meeting you and talking to you and You can find

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me on Facebook you can find me on YouTube and

00:28:21.950 --> 00:28:25.369
on Spotify and all of those podcasts that Spotify

00:28:25.369 --> 00:28:29.890
uses for the podcast and it's Fullerton's professional

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organizing. I think that's about it. I think

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that's all I have. Awesome. Well, thank you for

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coming on the show to do an episode with me and

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make sure to check out my episode with her. If

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you enjoyed today's podcast, please like, subscribe

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who could use some of these tips, until next

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time, keep seeking those fresh perspectives and

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keep having those unfiltered conversations to

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better understand the world around us.
