Hello wonderful people welcome back to the Mark
Mo Show season four no season six episode
four is Where we're at I'm Aidan Maloney co -host
of Mark Mo Show and Typical host Mark Mo sat
right next to me. How you going? Hi? Okay, hola
um so we're switching it up a bit today figured
I would run the opening dialogue and see how
that pans out. We've got an interesting one,
the human condition, if you will. And that's
quite a broad subject that we'll dive into here
in a little bit. Maybe some personal anecdotes
in there, kind of relate this to our lives as
it goes. But I have a gaming channel, Aiden Spilled
the Right Way, on YouTube. Pretty fun stuff,
you should check it out. I don't know what's
coming up here soon. I've got more GeoGuessr
in the works and a handful of new horror games
to look at, which is super fun. So I think that's
fantastic. But what we're talking about today
is the human condition can be defined as the
characteristics and key events of human life,
including birth and learning and emotion, aspiration,
reason. morality, one's own mortality, in fact.
A very broad topic. Continues to be pondered
about and analyzed from different perspectives,
such as art and biology, literature, psychology,
theology, everything like that. Because it can
be pretty ambiguous. It can be as big as the
meaning of life. It can be as small as... Making
moral and ethical decisions on a day to day But
I think the human condition in my opinion falls
down into two things and that's reasoning and
communication So I'm not I think neither of us
are really religious people know necessarily
but from a pragmatic scientific look at it, I've
always felt the purpose of being human is to
learn and to communicate and to reason. I mean,
humans are the greatest autobiographers in the
observable universe. No one writes experiences
down or films of logs like us because no one
else is doing it. It's not another species who
know that does that. And specifically on reasoning
and communication is... what I really want to
talk about today because we spent an hour and
change on the phone yesterday with some recent
events in Mark Moe's life causing stresses and
strains and it all kind of boiled down to a lack
of communication between two human beings and
with a lack of communication comes a lack of
being able to reason because you don't know what
you don't know so I just wanted to talk about
that now reason is the capacity to consciously
apply logic by drawing valid conclusions from
new or existing information with the aim of seeking
the truth. That seems pretty valid. I would say
a reasonable take. Yeah. It more or less involves
the rational process of thinking and cognition
to extrapolate from one's existing knowledge
to generate new knowledge using intellect. And
we do that through communicating, not only with
others, but with ourselves. And communication,
I think we're all pretty familiar with it, but
classified as the exchange of information, either
between humans, between different species. Communication
in humans is kind of two different paths. It
can be verbal or nonverbal communication. And
there's a lot you can glean from both. Through
those two paths there are two more paths interpersonal
communications, which is the communication between
two distinct beings and Intra personal communication
which is communicating with one's own self and
They're they're equally important because I feel
like half of the reasoning we do as people is
Intra personal right it it happens in our own
brain. We break things down As we observe them
and we come to conclusions through reasoning
but if a breakdown of communication happens between
two people that is interpersonal communication
and I feel like in your case not to not to get
too specific on what's happened recently if you
don't want to but that seems to be the basis
of Not only conflict but of stress stressors.
Oh sure which I mean, it's problematic because
through proper communication, you would imagine
that not only can stress be alleviated in most
cases, but it can be outright avoided. How do
you think communication could have changed recent
experiences in your life? Well, I think when
you have an issue between two people, whatever
that issue might be. The idea is fix the problem,
solve the problem. That's always the way it's
been. You can't, for example, go to work, be
like, oh, that's a problem. Dah, I'm gonna ignore
it. It's a good way to lose a job. Right. So,
personally, or like with relationships or friendships
or anything like that, you have to do the same
thing. You can't just sweep things under the
rug and assume they're gonna go right. or just
like if you have, say for example, like one person
maybe has an issue with another person and doesn't
talk to them, well, it's not gonna get solved.
But if they're talking to other people that aren't
as familiar with that situation as the actual
person that you need to talk to, what ends up
happening is the one person then is getting points
of view from people who have no idea what is
going on, other than their one point of view.
Sure. So it is always going to be skewed towards
them in helping them make a decision without
actually communicating with the person that they
care about and saying, hey, I have this issue
or that issue or whatever. This you might not
even pertain to them. But if you're not communicating,
that other party is going to be like, what's
going on? Right. What am I doing? What's what's
wrong? And if they're like, oh, nothing, don't
worry about it. Or it's my own shit or whatever
the case might be. That there's that disconnect
and that disconnect does not help solve that
problem right and that that to me is is so vitally
important and I I read this book recently and
I've got the Wikipedia article pulled up for
it in front of me about nonviolent communication
and that seems in like hearing the words in theory
it sounds like a Pretty simple thing to do. Yeah,
but it it is something that takes time to practice
because you may not even realize through communications
like in the story you were just telling how A
dismissive attitude towards what seems to be
an issue that is being communicated seemingly
non -verbally that Is it is problematic and it's
not violent in in a sense of like throwing a
punch at someone is a violent thing to do It's
a right but nonviolent communication is it's
different, but it's healthy to practice and it
does take practice because sometimes Intra personally
you can be thinking to yourself. I think what
what I said was fine. I think my behavior is
okay and in so many instances, that is not how
you were perceived. So nonviolent communication,
a communication process developed by clinical
psychologist Marshall Rosenberg in the 60s and
70s, based on principles of nonviolence and humanistic
psychology. It foregrounds four components, observation,
feelings, fundamental needs, and requests, and
encourages expressing observations without judgment
in order to foster voluntary cooperation. So
essentially being pragmatic and practical and
concise and specific without, as best you can,
including biases. Right. Because that's, I mean,
there's a million things in life easier said
than done. Oh sure. But in order to be good at
nonviolent communication and healthy communication,
it requires one very important thing, and that's
just to communicate it. And that's so imperative,
in my opinion, of my take of the human condition
as we know it. I don't know if communication
is the meaning of life. I don't know if life
has one meaning. But it's such an important part
of life, and it's something that humans are so
brilliant at, that it's sometimes to me mind
-blowing. that, especially in your recent case
here, there's so many stressors that can so easily
be fixed by communication. Oh, sure. And sometimes
it takes emotional maturity that certain people
don't have. Sometimes it takes time that certain
people aren't willing to give. And it's, I don't
know. I don't know if it's the meaning of life
to communicate. But I know damn well it's a big
part of life. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is. I don't
know what else to add to that. I mean, that's
your right on. And the whole part about nonviolent
communication or if you choose to call them arguments
or whatever you want to do with it. The thing
is, is when there's that breakdown in communication,
people aren't talking. Emotionally, there is
a buildup. Because there's nowhere for that to
go. No outlet. There's no outlet. So that naturally
just builds up. So whether you're talking about
anger or frustration or sadness or whatever that
is, those things can't go away without the conversation.
And I think that's where, even in as far as relationships
go, I think that's where a lot of people fall
down and that's like, you know, maybe a little
thing happens between a couple. Ah, whatever.
It's not a big deal. and maybe something else,
and then maybe something else. Let me tell you
from experience, ignoring the little things or
sweeping them under the rug because I got 10
other things to do today, that doesn't make them
go away. They build up and they build up and
they build up until something bigger happens.
And now you've got an argument. Now you've got
frustration and anger and all these things spill
out because you didn't address some of the simplest
shit earlier. And that is a huge problem, and
I think that's a problem a lot of people have.
And I know, there's gonna be some people that'll
be like, well, I'm an introvert, or I'm just
not a good communicator, or they could come up
with a bunch of different reasons to say why
they don't communicate. I'm here to say you gotta
find a way. You gotta find a way to do it. And
I know some people like to write notes, or write
letters, or whatever, as a form of communication.
That's okay. But... To solve it, you have to
talk. Right. Like you can sit there and write
something, but like I could write something and
read something and you could have the words there
and they could all make sentence and come together.
But I'm not getting emotion. I'm not getting
a true feel of maybe which things you might be
mentioning might trigger more than others. Like
I don't have that in a written form. Sure. I
won't understand that. Yeah. You know, the funny
thing is like when you when you think about texting.
The only way you know someone's mad is if they're,
like, in all caps. Sure. Because otherwise. Or
excited. Right. Or someone says something in
a text. And you could look at it and be like,
oh, what a dick. Oh, why are they getting on
me for? And then you talk to them and be like,
oh, gosh, I didn't mean it like that. Right.
Right. So texting is an important form of communication,
obviously, because we are in the digital age.
But there is something to be said for speaking.
You have to be able to speak. You have to be
able to be like, hey, I have this issue. And
then 10 minutes later, after a conversation,
ah, wasn't that big of a deal after all. Right.
Or, oh, wow, I didn't know you felt that way.
Let me make a couple of changes here. Or, I won't
say that again, or whatever the case might be.
But if you don't have that conversation, you
don't know. And like I said, then those emotions
build up into something that isn't great. Right.
And importantly, regarding text or email or written
communication, that whole second half of human
beings communicating, nonverbal communication,
is not present. It's not present. Inflections
aren't felt. So while valid, written communication
can be problematic in terms of specific expression.
Right. Because at that point, then, it's interpretation.
Right. Right. or how I perceive it to be. Yeah,
and there's issues too with intrapersonal communication
that something you said made me think about where
it is important to of course communicate to yourself
and process and reason within your own mind but
if you are constantly running through things
in your own head and telling yourself X, Y, and
Z, and this is how I took X, Y, and Z, you have
to realize that's still only one side of the
story. It's your side of the story. The individual
or individuals that may or may not be communicating
with you have the other side of the story. And
that leads me to this wonderful definition I
found from the Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows.
And I think this definition is so impactful and
important to think about in terms of empathy.
Because it's so important. And it's called Sonder.
The awareness that everyone has a story. And
here is how they describe Sonder. You are the
main character, the protagonist. the star at
the center of your own unfolding story. You're
surrounded by your supporting cast, friends and
family hanging in your immediate orbit. Scattered
a little further out, a network of acquaintances
who drift in and out of contact over the years.
But there in the background, faint and out of
focus, are the extras, the random passerby, each
living a life as vivid and complex as your own.
They carry on invisibly around you, bearing the
accumulated weight of their own ambitions, friends,
routines, mistakes, worries, triumphs, inherited
craziness. When your life moves on to the next
scene, there's flickers in place, wrapped in
a cloud of backstory, inside jokes and characters,
strung together with countless other stories
you'll never be able to see, that you'll never
know exist. in which you might only appear once
as an extra in their life. Only appearing sipping
coffee in the background or a blur of traffic
passing on a highway or as a lighted window at
dusk. And I find that so beautiful and impactful
to think about because it puts into words what
empathetic communication requires. Sure. You
know, to understand that every intrapersonal
thought you've ever had everyone else is also
having. Right, correct. And it's very easy to
get caught up in your own brain and it's very
easy for emotions to build up and communication
to fall through and it's important to try to
not let that happen because friendships can be
lost Family members stray away. Acquaintances
may start rumors if they're vindictive. Right.
It's a problematic world we can live in if communication
falls through. And I just suggest to everyone
out there, all of our beautiful listeners, try
practicing non -violent communication. Put some
thought into the human condition as you see it.
Because of course, the reasoning and communication
specific version of the human condition that
I find important. Maybe yours is different. Maybe
your human condition to you, maybe it's more
spiritual. Maybe there are separate meaning of
lives. Maybe there is one meaning of life to
you. And communicate it. Half of education is
communicating. Correct. And so is half of relationships.
Actually, most of relationships is just communicating.
Yeah. And ultimately, it's a difference between
success and failure. I mean, that's the bottom
line. And if things go too long without proper
communication, without working at it, or as I
like to call it, watering the plant. If you don't
it dies and you have to take care of that and
look Individually, we all have busy lives. We
have things going on We have other friends. We
have jobs. We have hobbies. We have Bills we
have I mean just just load it up, right? Right
It just seems like humans 200 years ago had it
best when there wasn't all of this business,
busyness and technology and things like that
and it was, you had a home and it was on a couple
acres and you grew your own shit and you had
a couple of animals and whatever and it just
seems like maybe that was a better situation.
A simpler time. A simpler time where, you know,
many forms of entertainment or communication
were right there between you and that significant
other or some neighbors and that was it. Right.
And today, The world is so much smaller, so it
isn't just this small world of yours with a few
people. Like people's small worlds now contain
hundreds of people. Right. And that's a big thing.
It's a lot to manage. And when you make a sacrifice
for someone, whatever that sacrifice might be,
and you're doing it for all the right reasons,
I feel like if that communication isn't there,
That no matter how good your intentions are with
something It'll just fall apart sure, you know,
it'll just fall apart and and and and that one
individual that's within your hundreds of people
and you do that like that that is still impactful,
you know, you could get on fine with the other
199 people in your sphere and Feel as though
I don't know, like, you let that one individual
down, not knowing how you did it. Sure. Because
there is that lack of communication. It's amazing
what that effect is. Oh yeah. It's amazing what
that effect is because someone be like, dude,
you have so many other friends, you have so many
other things in your life, don't worry about
it. But for me, when you, when your friends are
everything, right? And your life is basically
revolved around your friendships, your close
friendships specifically, but your friendships
and your kids. And it's like, that's my life.
That's the shit that's important to me. Right.
And you get one individual and things go sideways
and that communication is that it's a destroyer
of freaking worlds. Right. And most people don't
understand that there are some people that are
built a certain way where they have a fallout.
And the day later, they're like, whatever. Yeah.
And they just kind of move on. I know people
like that. I'm not like that. I'm not wired that
way. But that's just what it is. Yeah. Yeah.
And it's one of those things, too, where the
stress you were talking about, especially from,
as you mentioned, like technology, everything
is so much smaller, small world. and yet everything
is so much bigger. I mean, you can never see
every corner of the internet. Maybe that's for
a good purpose. Yeah, no doubt. But I've seen
reports, too, that the addictiveness and the
stress caused by social media and constantly
being in communication with everyone all the
time is harmful. And that's another side of communication
that can be problematic. And the background stress
from technology evolving faster than humans,
like you said 100 years ago, 200 years ago, your
neighbors or your congregation or your book club
or anything like that, that was your circle.
That was it? That was your circle. It's your
family. You got like 10 people you know and a
couple dozen acquaintances. And I don't know,
you're out there eating tomatoes. That's life.
Yeah, right. And technology and artificial intelligence
and social media is too fast. It's too fast for
humans to become accustomed to this life. Even
Gen Alpha and younger Gen Z people who are born
into this technology boom. It's just not how
our brains were wired. No. And especially how...
dangerous and unfair capitalism is, where all
these background stresses are always on people's
minds, even if you're not intrapersonally thinking
about it all the time, the background stress
is there, and that's something you can communicate
about, but I don't know if it's something that
can be alleviated. I'm not sure. I mean sure
you can turn your phone off and yeah you walk
in a park but you still got to turn your phone
back on and go to work the next day. Right and
see that's that's why I and I may have mentioned
this to you someone else but like I'd often said
because I'm part of a personal injury case we're
not going to talk about it obviously but there's
a possibility that I'll have a good chunk of
change some point this summer which is great
and there's things that I kind of immediately
have to do with some of that money. But then
I was thinking to myself, how easy would it be
to just liquidate like three quarters of the
stuff I have and just go. Yeah. Just literally
throw my phone in the garbage and just go and
pick a direction and find some little cabin on
a prairie or some shit like that and maybe get
a dog and just exist. Yeah. Live the simpler
life that humans were kind of. born to do. Right.
And grow food, pet dogs. Right. And just kind
of do that. And it's, you know, and the funny
thing is, like, I'm a city guy. Like, I love
going to Chicago. I love taking trips to Vegas
and Seattle and Miami and places like that. I
mean, just I love the energy and the fun and
and people watching because I'm a people guy.
I've already explained that. So I really do enjoy
those types of things. But then. if you're talking
about, and I mentioned this to Aidan in a private
conversation, if you're talking about quieting
the voices, see these voices in your head. And
this is somewhat related to what we've been talking
about because it's still communication, intrapersonal,
if you will. Right. Where for me, everybody's
different, but I've taken IQ tests before and
I'm just below the genius level. Call me an underachiever.
Call me what you want. Obviously. But I think
for people that are very smart, our brains don't
shut down easily. It's like a computer that you
leave on that just keeps churning, keeps churning,
keeps you up at night, random thoughts, things
like that, because your brain is just firing,
it's on, it's like... Hey, why are we sleeping?
I have all these great ideas, and you're just
like, or something happens between someone, or
you're not getting along with a new roommate,
or whatever the case is. And instead of just
falling asleep and sleeping like a baby for seven
or eight hours, you sleep for one, and then you're
up and you're like, you know, oh, they're not
happy with you. You're doing something wrong.
Let's sit here and think about all the possible
things that you're doing. There are people like
me. I know I'm not alone in this. Yeah. but it
just doesn't shut down. Right. And as also as
a form of communication, there's a thing called
therapy, right? Go see a therapist, talk about
your feelings, talk about your relationships,
your friendships, things in your own personal
life. It's the task manager for your brain. Well,
right. And that's what you hope. Yeah. Because
you sit there and go, OK, this thing's firing
and it's not helping me help me make sense of
what is going on. Now, for some people, it works
great. I've had a couple of what I would call
decent ones, or what I just call good people,
and I've had good conversations, but I don't
feel like in all that communication, because
I'm incredibly transparent. Anybody that sees
my Facebook feed knows that. I'm transparent.
I am honest. I throw shit against the wall, and
I see what sticks. If it does, great. If it doesn't,
we move along, but that's the kind of communicator
I am. You know, if we communicate, you're going
to get exactly what you got coming, right? Because
it's like, I don't think it has to do with not
caring. I think it has to do with maybe caring
too much that I'm willing to share and open up
because I want things to be better. Sure. But
when it comes to therapy, I think it was Freud
that said that the Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis.
And to be completely honest, he's not. that wrong
to and the thing is is like I literally one time
this was in Florida and her name was Anna Maria
very very very nice person she did help me in
some way she did to be fair she did help me with
some things down there which was good because
that was a very dark time I've had like three
or four times in my life where it was dark And
that was one. And so with our communication and
talking, because I had no one else to talk to,
moved to Florida on my own. So when you had a
lot of life things going on and you move someplace
by yourself, sometimes it helps. In this case,
it did not, because it's just too much unresolved
stuff. So in talking with her, like I said, we
kind of solved some things. I had this chiropractor
who became a great friend and she told me about
like grounding, walking in your bare feet outside
and doing some other little things that would
help. Oddly enough, kind of worked. So one time
we're sitting there in her office and we're talking
about some things and she's asking us personal
questions. I'm giving it to her just how I do.
But then the funny thing, because I'm built this
way, I then communicate back kind of like, oh,
well, how do you feel about this? How did and
here's what's here's what's hilarious. Like by
the end of that session, she's like, I felt like
you were my therapist. I said. I said, I apologize
if I hijacked it. I said, but that's kind of,
she's like, you should think about being a therapist.
I'm like, nah, man. I'm like, I'm not. I mean,
I don't want that responsibility on me. I'm like,
I'll give a friend two cents of advice if they
ever ask for it, I said, but I couldn't do it.
But the point being in all of that is that when
you're having that communication, We expect things
to improve or get better or have enough information
for things to just make sense. And it doesn't
always. Right. And that's maybe, at least for
me, sometimes that's where disappointment comes
in. Because you put this time and this effort
and being open and being transparent and genuine.
And then days and weeks and months later and
you go, why aren't things better? Yeah. And that's
that's a frustrating thing. But it's still. worth
the conversation. I'm not saying it's not. And
I'm not saying therapy always works because it
does not. Some people does. And if people are
having issues like someone that I know, they
need to see someone and talk to someone. And
as I said, maybe that will work for them and
maybe it won't. But it's worth it. If they're
not going to communicate with the people they
care about the most, you have to communicate
with someone. You have to let it out. And you
have to talk about it. and be like, oh, I have
a problem with A, B, C, and D. Okay. That's just
step one that you said, I have issues with this.
The next step is why. Right. Why do you have
issues with that? And then being open about it.
Right. Because if you bottle it up and you pack
it in, you got to fully unpack it. Right. What
are you having issues with? Why are you having
those issues? What can we do about it? Right.
One, two, three. I mean, it's that simple. And
If you don't want to take that first step to
a multi -step process, you're just going to repeat.
Right. So it's just not me and me thinking that
I failed this person. Sure, because I do feel
that way. But because you care about them, you
want them to be healthy. You want them to be
better, to feel better. Because you realize that
before me, there was a guy before me. There was
probably a friend before that and a friend before
that. And it's just like trash left on the highways.
You just keep driving along. Yeah. And none of
that is going to change. Unless you change. And
deal with it and learn to communicate. Now on
the upside with, in this specific instance for
me. You know, I reached out and we have been
communicating. I've been helping her in this
transition. I didn't have to. Didn't have to
answer one text if I didn't want to. But I still
care about this person and I want them to be
better and to succeed and to feel better. Right.
And if that means going through this whole process
that she's going through, great. How can I help?
And maybe that's me being a bigger person. Maybe
that's just me caring about this person. Maybe
it's a lot of different things. But in all of
that, She was open to the idea of sitting down
some time and having tea and talking about things.
And I really hope so because that's healthy.
Right. That's a healthy thing to do to be able
to sit there and be like, yeah, you know, everything
kind of unraveled because of this. And then I
can be like, oh, well, I said or did this because
I felt this way and we just didn't have an opportunity
to talk about it. Right. And so that's that's
unfortunate. I know there's a lot of you out
there where this this conversation is probably
very familiar with all of you. Right. Seems all
too similar. Whether it's an issue that you're
having with a friend or whether it's an issue
that you're having with a loved one or a family
member, whatever the case is. But there's always
the reasons. There's always that causation. And
if you don't take time to examine it, if you're
like, yep, this person does mean something to
me, then take the time. Right. Take the time.
Otherwise, that person didn't mean that much
to you. Right. And then you need your own self
-examination. Yeah. So, yeah. So, based on all
of this and your excellent opening on communication
and all of that, the only advice that I have
for people out there to avoid frustration and
anger and sadness and losing the people that
you care about the most, You just have to talk.
Yeah. And I'm not saying you have to talk right
away. Sometimes you have to internalize and think
about things. That's actually pretty healthy,
because if you talk about something too quickly,
that can tend to lead to arguments too. Right.
But take a little time, internalize some things,
and talk. Be honest with someone. Be like, I
don't want to talk about it now, but maybe in
a couple of days. Sure. And then you do, once
you've had a chance to think on it, because some
people operate that way. But always do it. Always
have the talk. If somebody means something to
you, always have that talk. And there's always
circumstances that go beyond that. Circumstances
where people are doing too much drugs, or people
that are drinking too much, or like those external
things that kind of affect this. Right. But once
again, if that's a problem, talking to them,
hey, you know what? I really care about you.
You're important to me. I think your increase
in alcohol consumption is a problem. Right. I
think your usage of drugs is a problem. You have
to tell them that. Right. If you care about them.
And there's so many studies too that show that
substance abuse and similar addictions are coping
mechanisms for a different underlying problem
that hasn't been unpacked yet. Right, a lot of
that happens that way, correct? Right. And to
harken back to something you said earlier, and
even bring this full circle, is specifically
when you mentioned like voices in your head and
that intrapersonal communication that can be
problematic, it is important when I say, and
for anyone interested, there's a great book on
it, the article, the Wikipedia page on nonviolent
communication is a good read too. You have to...
practice nonviolent communication interpersonally,
but importantly, you have to practice it interpersonally.
Yeah. Right? The same advice or analyses or helpful
hand that you would give to another person, you
gotta teach yourself. You gotta be able to give
that right back to yourself and realize that
you can be violently communicative towards yourself
and that is also problematic. Well, it is problematic
because if you're not nice to yourself, it's
going to be a problem. It's going to be a problem
in your interpersonal communications with others,
your work, all sorts of stuff. Yeah. And I know
sometimes it's really hard to be nice to yourself
when things aren't going well. you know, it's
maybe you mess up at work, or you say something
wrong to a friend you didn't even intend, or
whatever the case might be, and then later you
go, God, what a dumbass. Well, now my communication,
which could have been better served elsewhere,
talking about other things, now I just internalized
it and I called myself a dumbass. Right. So if
you do that too much, it's almost like your brain
will then say, well, God, I guess this guy's
a dumbass. Right. Right. So it's, and I know
this is hard because I fail at this a lot. I
am my own worst critic and a lot of you are.
I'm not, that was a very personal thing but I'm
just admitting it and a lot of people have that
issue. But we're so hard on ourselves that sometimes
rather than being hard on ourselves or saying
negative things about ourselves whether it's
just quietly or actually out loud, we don't,
number one we don't do that. And we kind of go
to, okay, I was just feeling really negative
about that. Why? Right. And it'd be like, okay,
I should have done that. Well, what can I do?
What can I do to change this? And just be more
constructive, I suppose, if possible. Yeah. In
doing that. But yeah, I fail at that a lot because
I am so... so hard on myself. Right. And when
you feel that way and you feel like things are
bad. And life, my friend Mark Mondo, he, you
know, long ago, we should have wrote a book,
long ago. we came up with this whole theory about
how sports explain everything. And we use things
that happen in sports and sports terminology
to basically explain life. And like we should
have written a book together because I think
it would have been, number one, it would have
been kind of funny. But number two, I think it
would have kind of made people look at it and
be like, wow, that's fascinating. Never really
even look like it. But in this particular case,
you know, things go bad for people. And I get...
Look, I'm not a kid with one of those big bellies
in Ethiopia and just, like, hoping to get a meal.
I understand there is bad in this world a lot
worse than my bad, and I get it. Yeah. But it's
my life and my universe. So, you know, even though
my bad's not that bad, it's still bad. And when
you have, like, a good thing happen, get a job,
whatever, it's like, yes, excellent, you know,
and you... I don't know what chemicals start
throwing, flowing through your body, but it's
like it feels good and you're like finally and
blah blah blah because a lot of times saying
things are bad, it's just like you have this
self -worth and you feel like you're worth less
because you're like, why don't people want me?
I have a lot to offer. Here I am living alone.
Here I am living alone without a job. What am
I doing wrong? And so there's a lot of that going
inward all the time. And so what that does, in
kind of a sports way, it creates what's called
a losing streak. Right. And so it's like bad
thing, bad thing, bad thing, bad thing. And then
like one good thing happens. You're like, oh,
that's really great. And instead of like using
that as a pedestal and moving up and moving up
and then like getting a winning streak going,
then something happens the next day or a couple
of days later. And rather than brushing it off,
your brain goes, oh, here we go. Yeah. Right.
Here's the here's the next losing streak. And
it's tough. It's tough. So that interpersonal
communication, what you say to yourself, try
to be as positive as you can. Try as hard as
you can. Like I said, therapy doesn't work great
for me. It might work great for you. Talk to
someone. Just communicate. Communicate to the
ones you love because otherwise they don't know.
You may have 10 things going wrong in your life
and one of those things that is not going wrong
could be your loved one. But if you don't let
that loved one know, yeah, I have been a rat
bastard. I have just been frustrated. I've been
this and I've been that, and you are not the
reason. Here's what's going on in my life. If
you don't say that, the other person thinks it's
all them. Oh, yeah. We'll guarantee you we'll
think it's all them. And now they're gonna feel
like shit, and they're gonna feel like they're
not doing enough. So without proper communication,
now they're like, oh. Well, I got to turn this
amp up to 11. I just say, I got to start doing
more and more and more. And maybe what that person
needs is less. And that's how all this happens.
No communication. And then we have to decipher
for ourselves what is best. And that's the funniest
thing of all, is people be like, doing what's
best. How do you know? How do you really know
if you're not communicating? Because then that's
just in your own head. Then you're attempting
to use reasoning. without the other half of reasoning
that stems from communication and learning. Right.
Because then, six months from now, you're going
to fall into the same trap. And then fall into
the same trap. And then you're going to be much
older in life and be like, why am I not happy?
Yeah. Why am I not happy? Why don't I have significant
relationship? Why don't I have this, have that,
whatever? And it ends up going back. And I told
your mother this one time, and we were talking
about like, you know, therapy and talking and
getting help and figuring things out and whatever
and stuff like that. And one thing that I'd said
to her, and I didn't want her to take offense
to it, because I was just honest. I was just
like, you got to drill deep. You got to drill
deep. Like, don't go to therapy with like, oh,
I just want to fix this and it's something recent.
Well, OK, that's fine. Might be able to do that
with just some significant conversations with
friends and family. But it's just kind of like,
you know, that is most recent. But that happened
because of this. And those things happen because
of this. And you go back and you go back. And
you have to really drill back to be like, find
some sources and be like, oh, and then you get
some understanding of why you're falling into
certain things. And so, you know, I'm a middle
-aged guy. I've had a lot of experience. I've
listened to people. I've read things. And I've
always been a good listener. So I just listen
to people. And I think when you listen, you learn.
So... You really have to genuinely listen to
people, whether they're being emotional or not.
If they're opening up, let them open up. Right.
Because this is part of their process. You have
to do it. So, yeah, I don't know. I guess in
closing, try to be better to yourself. Try to
say positive things to yourself as often as you
can. If you have things in your life that aren't
going great, communicate with people. that you
love, I think that's important. Sometimes people
be like, oh, just go get therapy. Well, no, maybe
what they need is the people that they love.
Maybe that's what they need. Don't just immediately
shuffle it off and be like, well, I don't have
time for your issues. Go see a therapist. It's
one of the worst things you can say. When someone
comes to you, have that conversation, or just
listen, because they just need that in that moment.
Just be like, oh, what's going on? And just listen
to them. And maybe then later, maybe then you
say, you should probably talk to maybe someone
that's more qualified to maybe help you find
the answers you're looking for. But in many ways
sometimes, whether it's family, whether it's
friends or whatever, just listen and communicate
and don't always be their problem solver unless
they're looking for some guidance. Then you give
them your best advice you possibly have. That's
communication. That's what it's all about. So
once again, communicate with people you love.
Don't let things grow. Don't let things build
up. Be nice to yourself. Say positive things
to yourself. When things are going bad, try like
hell to be better and do better things to get
yourself out of it. Don't let your brain trick
you, because it will. Brain is a lying asshole
sometimes. So you have to trick it. But more
than anything, it's that if you care and love
for people, have the conversation. Have it and
I'm not talking argument just a conversation
be like, hey Let's let's talk about A B or C.
You know, I see you're sad. Let's talk about
it. I don't want to talk about it I know you
don't want to talk about it, but you should probably
talk about it. I Think I failed there I capitulated
every time this other person said they didn't
want to talk about it Because I was I was trying
to be respectful Okay, you don't want to talk,
but then like happens a third time, happens a
fourth time, happens a fifth time. And at that
point, you honestly have to be like, look, we're
going to talk. And if you don't want to talk,
I'm just going to talk at you. Right. Because
you're letting that person know whether they
know it or not, that you love them and you care
about them. And you want to make things better.
And maybe you can, maybe you can't. But the only
way you're going to know is by communicating.
Yeah. That's it. Very simply put. Yeah. We will
be back in Uno Momento for a little Carpe Diem.
Hopefully this, I don't know, we really intended
this episode to be educational, but just thought
provoking, perhaps. That was the kind of idea.
And at least for me, I didn't want to get too
deep in the weeds on some things because I'm
at that emotional state. So maybe that wouldn't
have been the best. I almost said radio. We used
to do radio folks It wouldn't maybe wouldn't
have been the best podcast But I don't sometimes
I don't mind showing my emotion Means I care.
Yeah, so Thanks for listening. We'll be back
We are so back gamers for Carpe Diems Lovely
lovely viewers lovely listeners out there send
us their DMS and we We can respond we can bring
them up on the show. It's not a promise. It is
not a guarantee I don't know how we could guarantee
such a thing. I don't know. I don't know maybe
Maybe something that would enrich our lives so
to speak something of value maybe value. Yeah
It's a thought Yeah. Throwing it out there. Throwing
that out there. So we've got a little bit of
a limited Carpe Diems today. The show is a little
bit on short notice. But we'll do Diems. We've
got other foods coming up here shortly, as well
as the Frozen Guy Frozen review. Gonna start
off with a Diem here from my boy, Dr. Johnny
Dong. Ooh. Asking, would you take a job washing
ball sacks for a living if it paid $150 ,000
a year? Wow. I don't like that question, Jonathan.
No. I'm sorry, Doc. Doc. Dr. Johnny Dong. What
a great name. Glad that question didn't come
from Doc Brown. $150 ,000 a year is a good paycheck.
It's a great paycheck. It is a great paycheck.
I don't know if I could do it. I'd do it. You'd
do it? Wash ball sacks for a living? I mean,
that's a tough shift. That's a long eight hours.
It's brainless. You don't have to have a single
skill. All you have to do is wash the balls,
man. Yeah. That's all you have to do. It doesn't
even say I have to touch them. I can have gloves
on. This is true. It doesn't matter, man. Get
that sponge. Scrub those little nuts up. You
know, get them all sparkly looking good for their
lady or their guy or whatever and send them on
their way. Next up. Next balls, please. Next
up. Wash the old scrotes. Yeah. You know? Clean
testes. 450. I just get to sit there and wash
nuts. I guess that, you know what? Deez nuts.
Deez nuts. You make a good point. You make it,
I didn't think about PPE. You could have gloves
on, a doctor's mask. Gloves, mask, the whole
thing. Maybe something to deal with any smells
you may come across. Yep. Yeah, you can usually
put a little bit of Vaseline under your house.
Oh, yeah. That's what they do in morgues. Oh,
that's smart. Yeah, and so I would sincerely
hope that your nuts don't smell worse than a
dead body. If they do, chances are your significant
other probably isn't going to do certain things.
for you if you're not to smell that bad, which
is why you're coming to visit me. Exactly. At
Maloney's Nutwash. Maloney's Nutwash. That's
right. Yeah. Oh, man. I think I'm happy for you.
I just started a business I didn't even know.
Good paying job. Didn't even know. I think I'm
going to pass. You'll pass on washing the nuts?
I'll pass on the nuts. I'll wash a nut. I'll
wash both. Two for one special. Two for one special.
It's like, look, I was just really hoping to
spruce up that left nut. Nah, I got you both.
Got you both, man. Let's go. Spruce up the left
nut, please. I got a DM here from Polly Frankenstein.
If the afterlife was a simple choice between
watching human history play out up until your
passing versus watching the future of humanity
play out until extinction, Which would you choose
to watch? That's a tough one and this is why
because What if you pick the first one and it's
like three minutes long? And you're like, oh
cuz I'm not gonna be around that long Okay, that
wasn't really worth it either. It's like right.
Yeah, like you pass away and then nuclear winter
happens a couple days later. It's like, well,
I got the wrong movie. I got the wrong movie,
right? It's just like, I want to see what happens
for the rest of my time on Earth. Wait, why was
that just one minute long? Right. You know, what's
it going to happen to me? So I think after is
better because after it maybe gives you very
little indication of when your final day is,
because most of us do not know. So. I would probably
go, like, what's after? See the future of humanity?
Yeah. Although, you know, is it possible that
that could be disappointing? Because then you
see things be like, oh, that's really great.
Oh, yeah. Oh, they did universal medicine. Oh,
look, people are happy. Damn, I'm going to miss
all that. Yeah, right. But at least I'll have
seen it to know, hey, the world got better. Yeah.
OK, that's good. Or you watch it and it's just
like, wow. It's desolate, and there's no food
left, and people are dying. Yeah. Whew, guess
I missed that. Yeah. See the dystopian part?
Right, exactly. So, yeah, I don't know. Probably
the one after. Yeah. I'll take the one before.
I think being able to observe human history,
as fun as the future could be, I think there's
so much cool stuff within human history, like...
Watching the greatest scientists on earth come
up with their inventions like seeing them on
that day When when old boy got the Tesla coil
to work? Yeah, like that would have been so cool
So I'll take history you just let me know what
the future just just don't do any Marty McFly
sports almanac shit That's all I'm gonna ask
You're sitting there like whoa the Bears won
three Super Bowls in a row ha daddy's making
money Yeah, don't don't do that. Although it's
tempting. It is tempting. Yeah I got a DM here
from Piss Cup. How would you feel about fully
converting to the metric system? It would take
a lot of training of the brain, I think. Right.
Just simply because there are things in our life
that have been a certain way for such a long
time. You know, the gallon, the cup, you know,
this, that, the, like... all of those things,
and if all of that changed, then it's just like,
I need a millimeter of what? A kilometer of what?
Yeah. How many kilometers is the drive to work?
It's like, dude, I don't know. I don't know.
How many kilometers an hour am I driving? Yeah,
because it is kind of like learning a new language.
Oh, yeah. Because my first thought is like, oh,
if I'm driving 50 mile an hour. the conversion
to get to kilometers an hour is about 1 .6 times.
But that's also how I learn language or attempt
to learn language is like, okay, here's this
word I know. Here's what it is in Spanish. And
then I'll hear that Spanish word and instead
of thinking of the object like, oh, cerveza makes
me think of the English word beer, which makes
me think of a beer. So you're just another step
removed from being able to cognitively think
of things quickly. So I think that'd be a, I
like the metric system except for Celsius. I
don't like Celsius. I think it's stupid. I think
it makes sense for science because Celsius relates
perfectly to the temperatures of water. Zero
C is frozen, 100 C is boiling. That's great.
But Fahrenheit makes more sense in terms of what
it feels like to be human. Zero C is cold, 100
C is hot, and then you've got this nice big range
in between. All the Chodesters over in England
are like, oh, it's a hot one out, it's 28 C.
I don't know what that means, but if you say
it's 85, well, yeah, it's a hot one out. I don't
like Celsius. I think I would eventually come
to terms with centimeters and meters and liters
and all that. But I hate Celsius. It's so stupid
for regular human life. Yeah, it really is. Yeah,
not a fan. Final DM I got today. Jumbo Jorkin
checking in. What celebrities do you think are
genuinely good people? Keanu Reeves. That was
my first thought. Keanu Reeves. Kate Hudson.
Robin Williams. Oh, yeah. Let's see. Bernie Sanders.
Yeah, there's so few and far between. Like once
you said Keanu, my brain was like blank. I'm
like, yep, that's checked everything off the
list. Yeah, yeah, that's those are the ones.
Those are the ones for sure. God, I know there's
probably more that I'm just not. I mean, I've
only ever heard good things about Tom Holland.
I have, you know. Yeah, that is true. Yep. So,
there are good celebrities out there. I think
there's just a lot of mainstream ones that are
real shitty. Yeah, oh yeah. Real shitty. Jared
Leto, Chris Brown, Kanye. All that. Yeah. Chevy
Chase. But then again, media feeds off of negativity.
So it's very easy to think of people who are
bad people and are notable for it when... You
know, the cool stories you hear about Keanu or
Tom Holland or anyone. They're just kind of like,
oh, wow, that's really nice that they did genuinely
good human things. And then the next 10 stories
you see on your timeline are like, oh, this celebrity
dropped the N word 14 more times. It's like,
dude, what the hell? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Well,
that brings us then to the other foods. Let's
do it. Now the other foods it's a little segment
I do where I'll traverse the globe looking for
disgusting sounding or just a typical foods and
I bring them up on the show for all you lovely
listeners and for Mark Mo to hear and react to
and This week I saw a post on reddit in a sub
reddit I'm not super familiar with but it got
me thinking we're we're getting into nicer weather
here in the northern hemisphere And it's almost
grilling season, boys. Almost. And when it's
grilling season, it's dog season. Yeah. And this
post got me thinking. Because it said it's on
r slash hot dogs. Oh, OK. It's the hot dogs for
Reddit. I love it. The hot dog subreddit. I love
it. And someone asked, this is a post from two
years ago, what is the weirdest topping that
actually works? So I was just going to run through
some of these comments that I saw. And then I
did my own research on Google on as far as some
atypical toppings. Top comment, mayonnaise. Recommending
mayo chop and mustard. Okay. Now I can see that.
Yeah. I can see because mayonnaise is just another
condiment. Of course. I'm not much of a ketchup
on hot dog guy, but mayo chop and mustard. Yeah,
I don't know about that. That's not at the top
of my list. Yeah, I can't picture it. I can't
either. Like I know precisely what ketchup on
a hot dog tastes like. I know precisely what
mayonnaise on a hot dog tastes like. I'm like
thinking mayonnaise and a dog and a glizzy and
it's not computing for me. It's not. Interestingly
enough, I can have some mayo on a burger. And
throw a little bit of ketchup and mustard on
there. Yeah. Along with some lettuce and cheese
and stuff. Chipotle may own a burger. It's great.
And it works. Yeah. Yeah. But a dog isn't a burger.
It's a tube steak. Different texture, different
format. Filled with different shit. Yeah. And
when you're talking dog, brats, sausages, all
that kind of stuff, it's mustard territory. Yeah.
It's just what it is. Heavy mustard. Yeah. Now
look, I get it. Will Bobby want to sit down?
He want to have ketchup on his hot dog. That's
allowed. That's allowed for little Bobby to have
ketchup on his hot dog. Because little Bobby
doesn't know better. Because we just want to
keep Bobby happy and we want him to watch Bob
the Builder and then pass the fuck out. Yeah.
So we get that. A grown ass person should not
be putting ketchup on a sausage of any kind.
Yes. This is correct. Let alone a bratwurst.
Oh my god. Yeah. You just get disqualified from
the human race. For that one. It's mustard territory.
And you can use different mustard. You could
use a standard yellow mustard. You can use the
Gildens, you know, all the, oh, that's good stuff.
Yeah. So all of that is in the ballpark. You
can do it. But and I love mayo. Don't get me
wrong. Mayo might be my favorite condiment. Very
versatile. I love mayonnaise. You can put it
on any sandwich, a burger. It's great stuff.
I love it as a dip. Like if I get french fries,
like french fries. And I've been the fry guy.
French fries, you know, you can dip them in ketchup.
It's okay. Not great, but it's okay. It's like
if the fry isn't a great fry, yep, give me some
ketchup. I need to ketchup these things up. But
mayo on a fry? Or gravy. Or gravy. Yeah. Like
chips and gravy? Yep. Like the old English and
Irish way to do it? Yeah, that's a good way to
do it too. But, yeah, no, all of that on one
glizzy? No. No way. No. I'll pass. I'll pass.
The next hop comment, freeze and then grate a
hot dog. Sprinkle the grated hot dog on top of
your hot dog. Yeah. That's creative. That is
boof. That is something. You get more dog per
dog. doing it like that yeah for sure it's the
relish of hot dogs yeah the relish of hot dogs
that's funny yeah uh next comment here a bit
of blue cheese and diced green apple someone
suggests i i'll pass on that i don't why would
i put apples with a hot dog yeah why would you
do that and why would i put apples with blue
cheese there's these three things are not related
at all no they're really not no i i'll pass on
that They put cream cheese on hot dogs here in
Washington. Some people like it, but I think
it's an abomination, someone says. It's gross.
Cream cheese, have you tried cream cheese on
a dog? I remember, I think I was a kid. I know
I was a kid. I can't remember like when or who,
but I remember going there and I was given a
hot dog and I was looking for the mustard. I'm
like, oh, you got some mustard. And he was like,
oh no, you used cream cheese. Oh. Okay. So like
I put a little on like a little bit of the tip
of the hot dog and I ate one and like I didn't
want to vomit. I'm not going to go that far.
But like I ate it and I felt my tongue swirling
around in my mouth kind of checking out all of
the various flavors. Sure. And then thought I
could I could spit this out right now. Yeah.
I could really spit this out right now. I didn't
obviously. But I was done using the cream cheese.
Yeah. Interesting. Cream cheese on a dog. I can't
picture that either in my brain. Some people
are commenting crunch up barbecue chips and put
them on a hot dog. I like that idea. I'm okay
with that. Like a little texture, a little crunch
in there. You can do that with like regular people's
sandwiches too. Someone said peanut butter. Peanut
butter on a glizzy. It gets a hard pass. Yeah,
I agree. Look, peanut butter's great. I like
peanut butter. Put peanut butter on a cracker,
on a sandwich. There are practical applications.
You got a plain old chocolate bar just sitting
there going, eh, get some peanut butter, dip
it in there. That's good stuff. So there are
definitely practical applications. A glizzy?
No freaking way. Yeah. People tend to just want
to dump all that stuff. I don't get it. No. I
don't get it. And there are... savory applications
for peanut butter like Thai peanut noodles are
great but why would you put it with a hot dog
right that doesn't add up right that doesn't
add up and the the most I'll say creative and
unusual hot dog toppings that I could find on
Google include caramel popcorn mm -hmm on a hot
dog oh why I don't know why would you do that
why would you do that yeah Here's one that kind
of piqued my interest, though. People put mac
and cheese on hot dogs. Oh. Now that's an idea.
Yeah, that one I like. Yeah. Like a childhood
meal is like cut up hot dogs and mac and cheese.
Yep. That one I like. But then you keep the hot
dog whole, you put the mac and cheese on the
bun. Get real. Yeah. That's where it's at. I
like that one. Okay. People are saying things
like peach salsa or mango salsa. I guess. Yep.
I guess the sweet and savory could work. pickled
beets. And someone even tried putting an entire
slice of pizza on a hot dog and called it a topping.
Yeah. Which I don't know if that's as much of
a topping as you just put a pizza on a hot dog.
Yeah, that's not great. I would try it. Yeah.
A lot of bread in that meal, though. Oh, for
sure. I would try it. Yeah. So yeah, that's my
other foods for the day. I just wanted to talk
about the most atypical hot dog toppings I could
find. Yeah. So wow that was yeah, those were
a couple gems in there a couple that I thought
you know that dog might ha ha yeah, that's funny
So but now most of those no -go. Yeah. Yeah absolute
pass moving us right along to the frozen guy
frozen reveal That's right, and so I tried one
recently, and I thought I reviewed it, and then
as I went back, I'm like, nah, I don't think
I did this. But I do tend to like this brand,
so it's these Healthy Choice Cafe Steamers. And
what store was that? Was it Walmart? Might have
been Walmart. And they had really good deals
on their frozen meals. Like, better than Meyer,
better than Strax. I'm like, wow, I didn't know
their stuff was so cheap here. Like literally
by like 50 cents a unit sounds like oh, that's
significant and like not like a sale stuff because
Walmart doesn't do a lot of sales Yeah, so I
was like, oh, that's kind of cool So I picked
up this cafe steamers and that's by healthy choice
and I picked up a four cheese ravioli and chicken
marinara It's ravioli filled with spinach ricotta
asiago parmesan and Romano cheeses with grilled
chicken breast and a marinara sauce top with
parmesan cheese That sounds pretty damn wonderful.
The sauce hold up. It did. It did. It was not.
It was not a thick sauce, but I don't think it
was supposed to be like everything. I like the
raviolis were kind of small. OK, but there were
six or seven of them. And plus the chicken, which
was like white chunk chicken, which is fine,
but no seasoning on the chicken. So you really
kind of had to, you know, use. the sauce, you
know, or eat it with the ravioli. But I thought
the quantity was good, it was light, and I think
how much, it was 17 grams of protein, 250 calories,
no preservatives. Oh, that's solid. So like,
that's, if you're gonna eat a frozen meal, not
too bad. Yeah. I think I got it under three bucks.
That's pretty significant. I think I got it under
three, yeah. And you said the quantity was good.
Yeah, oh, for sure. Anyway, yeah, it was good.
It was very tasty. So Yeah at any at any rate
I'd probably throw an eight one on that eight
one. Yeah, that's solid for what you said 290
if yeah I for the quantity were just a tad bit
more I think it would have been in the high eights
So I think the quantity affected that but like
as far as a meal how it tasted like I said the
chicken I think it needed to be seasoned somehow
a little bit. Yeah But overall, like, it was
good. I'd get it again. I liked it. Solid. Yeah.
Hell yeah. We will be back in one second's time
for a little You Just Made the List. Aidan Maloney
and Mark Maloney. Hello. Are so back. We are.
Just Made the List. As you call it, the feature
segment. Feature segment, baby. The big one.
The top 10 list of all time. This week, we're
delving into something we've touched on before,
because we like talking about music. We like
talking about cars. We've done lists of probably
hundreds and hundreds of things by this point.
But this one I thought would be fun to do. Our
top 10 favorite cars pre -2000. Before the year
2000, best cars. In our opinion, we'll run 10
through 2, save our big number one reveal, for
the end. And thank fuck for this part, there's
no rules. Ah, I like that. That's good. No rules.
My favorite rule. Would you like to start your
10 through 2? I would like to start my 10 through
2. Alright, 10 through 2, and these are... Best
cars before the year 2000. Before the year 2000.
I've got a couple tootry. All right, here we
go. Number 10, the 1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ. Now,
ooh, there was a time in the 90s, 80s, when Jeep
Wranglers had a certain look, a certain feel,
I liked them a lot. And I really like this one,
a friend of mine had, I don't know if he had
the 90s, no, he didn't have the 97. It might
have been a 93 or 94 but even so like it was
just it was great Just such a fun car to drive
and that that was the era too in the United States
when SUVs were special now Everyone's got an
SUV or a truck, but SUVs were special. Yeah in
in the 90s. Mm -hmm number nine Is 1973 Cadillac
Coupe de Ville. Oh, that's a gorgeous car it
was I don't know, I feel like the 60s and 70s
really ushered in what was called the luxury
car. So, if you were kind of that upper middle
class guy and you could scooch up to a Coupe
de Ville, you were the shit, man. And the thing
was a boat. I forget, like, how many cubic inches,
like, the motor, like, it was just... Massive.
It was massive that they hauled. So, the cars
were just amazing. And this thing was about,
like, you could fit a family of six or seven
in a car. So, that says a lot. The car is meaningful,
too, because Afro Man sang about it. Oh, yeah.
What's the song called? Crazy Rap? Mmm, or something
like that. Yeah, call 45 and two zigzags He does
mention the Cadillac Coupe de Ville you got to
man. It was a ride Number eight the 1986 Lamborghini
contact. Oh, yeah, LP 500 Quattro Volvo was Just
gorgeous. Yeah that the quintessential was that
a sports car or a supercar? at that point. Dude,
well it was a sports car but it was like, when
you were a kid and you'd go to Spencer's or something
and there was like a poster and it was some bikini
babe or whatever and you threw it up in your
room or whatever. Yeah. Nine times out of ten
they were on this car. Oh, I see. They're on
it posing by it, whatever. Yeah. Because it's
like, hey man, I'm cool, look at the chick, look
at the car, yeah, I'm gonna get me one of those.
Status symbol. No, but anyway. Neither the woman
or the car. Boo. But anyway, that car was just
a baller. 1965 Lincoln Continental. Oh, yeah.
Had the suicide doors. Sadly, I think it was
probably the car that Kennedy got killed in,
I think was the Continental. Oh, that sounds
right. The suicide doors, I think it was. Beautiful
car, though. Absolutely gorgeous car. Number
six, the 1977 Ford Bronco. Oh, is that the OJ
one? No, no, no. 1977, it is the one more closely
related when Ford decided to do the Bronco again
with the grille and the headlights and everything,
was more closely related to the older school
Ford Bronco than it was the OJ Ford Bronco, which
looked different. So, yeah, that Ford Bronco
is pretty cool. And number five, the 1987 Buick
Grand National. That's so great. Which, watch
the Super Bowl from two years ago. Yeah, yep.
That is a baller. And Buick made luxury cars,
largely. Yeah. And when they came out with this
Grand National, it was kind of like, yeah, it's
luxury, but... You can put the pedal to the floor
and this thing's gonna roll and it is sporty
as fuck. The Buick Grand National is awesome.
Yeah, it's a cool car. 1967 C2 Corvette. Oh,
yeah. One of my favorite Corvettes by far. I
mean, there's the Stingray of the 80s and 90s
and it's kind of cool looking, but not top 10
worthy in my opinion. The 67 Corvette, beautiful
car. That's righteous. That's a good pick. Absolutely
beautiful car. Number three, the 1977 Pontiac
Firebird Trans Am. Oh, yeah. So for people that
watch, like, Smokey and the Bear movies or that
sort of stuff, it was a car that he drove, the
black one with the big firebird on the hood,
and every kid that went and got a Matchbox or
Hot Wheels got that car. Yeah. Because it was
like, yeah, that is the coolest car ever. That
is an amazing vehicle. And number two, the 1991
Chevy Camaro. Because I owned it. Oh, yeah. I
had it. Yeah. T -Tops. I felt great. Felt great
today. It was so low to the ground when I first
got it. I'm like, oh my god, I'm sitting on the
street. This is crazy. But it was like driving
a magic carpet. Now I'm not going to tell you
130 miles an hour on Tri -State. I may know someone
that did that. I think you're past the statute
of limitations. Oh, am I now? You can just say
you did it. I went fast. And then I have my number
one, which we'll reveal in a little bit. Hell
yeah. I've got an interesting feeling what your
number one might be. Yeah, I think you do. My
number 10 best cars made pre -2000, in my opinion.
Number 10, the 1995 Mazda MX -5 Miata. Oh, yeah.
I've always been a fan of Miata's. They're just
cute little sports cars. They're just built right,
and they're quick, and they're light. And they've
always been super streamlined. Yeah. Super aerodynamic.
And these were the ones with the flip -up headlights.
Oh, yeah. Those are cool. Yeah. Very fun. Number
nine, I had to do it to them. I had to do it
to them. Number nine, the 1990 Volvo 240 wagon.
Oh, I had a friend that had that. Yeah. They're
so... boxy and and cute Uh -huh, like I've always
liked hatchbacks and wagons. I think they're
like some of them are pretty ugly Excuse me.
I think Ford Taurus made a wet the Ford Taurus
wagon or something like that Super uggo But Volvo
just made it a box and was like, yep, it's a
car I think that's so fun. Yeah number eight.
I also went early with mine a 1970 Corvette Stingray
I think that that was just a gorgeous year and
they've always had amazing engines in those.
Yeah, I think it's amazing number seven the 1981
DeLorean DMC 12 just an icon of a car. Oh, yeah,
I don't think DeLorean really did shit else Besides
that I think they went bankrupt or something
like that But yeah, I love it number six the
1984 Renault 5 turbo. I think it's a French car
And it's just neat. Yeah. It's very neat -looking
and looks super fun to drive. Number five, the
1998 Toyota Supra. Ooh, yeah. Yeah, you want
to talk tuner cars, Fast and the Furious before
it became... I was about to say they mod the
hell out of those. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the aftermarket
scene for Supras and even Miata is massive. Yeah.
Number four, the 1986 El Camino SS. Because if
you put a tray on a car and a fat engine in it,
I think it's cool. Oh, yeah, for sure You can
both be a sedan and a pickup. Yeah, and the El
Camino proved that. Oh, yeah number three same
boat same boat as you the 1987 Buick GNX. Yeah.
Yeah amazing car and this is the Grand National
experimental correct which they just put a fat
fucking engine in it and they made it look hard
as hell very cool number two on my list the 1990
nissan skyline gtr so cool another tuner car
another like huge jdm scene fast and the furious
type car and i think that's one of the That was
one of the cooler cars in, if you remember, Gran
Turismo 3 for the PS2. Yeah. That's one of the
faster cars, I think, in that game, and it's
just so cool. Yeah. Very, very cool. Big number
one time? Big number one reveal, and you pretty
much know mine, I think. It is the 1970 Chevelle
SS. Yep. A little super sport. I may be coming
into some money. I don't know how much, but if
it's a lot of much, then... May do it. There
was like my dream car. I've wanted it since I
was a kid and I think I would do it. Yeah, I
think I would definitely do it fuck. I'll move
in I'll live in it. Yeah shit I mean, it's like
one of those things where it's like you either
either do it or you don't right and the whole
live for today kind of motto and You know, it's
it's gonna be something something that will be
considered for sure. It's an amazing car It is
so cool looking. Mm -hmm my number one the 1966
Shelby Cobra. Yeah, that's a good one. It's a
good one. I think it's really good. The oldest
one on my list. It is so stylish. I think it's
a British American car. Yeah. But it's so cool.
I think they put like a 440 horse engine in there.
Yeah. And it's just this tiny lightweight thing
that just flies. Yeah. And it's so cool. Think
the blue and white stripes are just iconic. Yeah,
so that's my numero uno I dig it. I dig it. I
dig it. That's good. That's a good car. Oh, yeah
There's a movie about the Shelby with Matt Damon
and oh Gosh the actor that plays Batman Aflac
no oh oh oh oh Chad No, not Chad Chad Chad Yeah,
I know who you're talking about. It's his name.
God darn it. He's the driver, anyway. Yeah. And
it's... The Dark Knight Batman. Dark Knight Batman,
yeah. Anyway, that movie's really great. And
if you're a gearhead, you like cars, you like
old classic cars, it's definitely a movie for
you. It's so good. That's cool. Yep. That's very
cool. Leading me to, while you were sleeping,
something people shouldn't be sleeping on. be
a YouTube channel, a movie, a show, a book, anything
like that. I've got another YouTube channel to
bring up because I watched one of their videos
today and I thought it was quite amazing. Explosions
and Fire is the name of the YouTube channel.
It's this Australian content creator that specializes
in chemistry. I think he's actually got a PhD
in it. And he just makes videos. Building these
compounds in his little shed in his backyard.
Oh, yeah Just the explosive compounds and he's
like, oh, yeah We just combine these three things
together and makes a half hour video on it and
it's so entertaining the dude is so funny Australians
are just great content creators. I find some
of his most popular videos is making white phosphorus
Which I believe is one of the more dangerous
chemicals to use in warfare, which is very scary
that he just made it in his backyard shed. Wow.
Just synthesized it. He's got videos about purifying
hydrogen peroxide, making nitrogen trichloride,
and the title of the video is a terrifying yellow
abomination. Oh my gosh. Nitrogen trichloride.
He's got videos recounting his time in academia
and how PhDs are kind of a pain in the ass. And
it's just incredible. He's got videos making
anti -missile flares in his backyard. Wow, really.
Like, this dude's just great. So yeah, check
out Explosions and Fire on YouTube. Explosions
and Fire. Explosions and Fire. That sounds fun,
actually. It's a great watch. Yeah. It is a great
watch. And no one should sleep on us. No. As
we take a quick break and come back with a little
beer review and maybe a little tear listing.
Ooh, tear listing. Interesante. We're gonna list
my tears? Oh, no. Welcome back. to the official
beer review of the Mark Mo show. The only. The
only Mark Mo show, the only official beer review
of the Mark Mo show. Today we've got a special
one that Mo himself has picked up for us. Yep.
Zeviac Porter, straight out of Poland, 9 .5 %
ABV, 45 % on the international bidders unit.
Sounds like a treat already. It does. As the
style guide goes, Giviet's Porter is a dark strong
beer brewed to the traditional recipe from 1881
with the Munich malt and special malts for carmel
and color plus highest quality aromatic hops.
Everything together creates a unique combination
of taste. Production of this Porter was moved
to Bracke Bauer in 2004. That sounds wonderful.
Sounds great. We will be ranking this on a scale
from 0 to 5. We're using the untapped apps on
our cellular devices. Not sponsored, but I wish
they would. And we'll give you some tasting notes
and tell you what we think. We're drinking it
straight out the bottle today. Indeed we are.
A sluncha to you. Sluncha to you, sir. Oh, that's
lovely. Oh, wow. Mmm. There's a little fruitiness
in there. Oh for sure plums some kind of pit
fruit Yeah, some kind of dark fruit in there
very smooth. Yeah, very very smooth and honestly
couldn't even tell you it's nine and a half percent
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, it's got a little coffee
roasty bittery and it's got like a cocoa or dried
fruit fruitiness sweetness to it. That is quite
enjoyable Yeah, I really liked it. Smoother than
I thought. Remarkably smooth. Yeah. Very full
-bodied. God, that's fantastic. I definitely
get the coffee notes. I like that. Yeah, the
coffee bitterness, but not overwhelming. And
there is a very acute pit fruit sweetness in
there. Yeah. Oh, for sure. That is quite enjoyable.
Yeah. Like it. I like it a lot. I'm going pretty
high with this one and we did a porter last week
as well Mm -hmm And as much as I enjoyed that
Porter, I think I ranked it pretty highly if
I remember right I think I'm going higher with
this one. Oh, yeah, I really enjoy this I'm going
four to five out of five. This is this is definitely
in the elite tier of of Porters in my opinion.
Yeah. Oh, yeah for sure. Hmm. That was good What
are you thinking for it? Boy, oh boy. That is
a question. I think... Yeah, I think I'm going
to four. Four? Hell yeah. I think I'm going four.
I really liked it. Double elite tier. No doubt.
Is a rare occurrence on the Mark Mo Show, so
it must be meaningful. Must be meaningful indeed.
On the flavor profiles on the app, I click coffee,
smooth and dark. I agree with all that. I added
fruity to mine. Yeah, that's good. Coffee, smooth,
dark. full -bodied, fruity. I didn't consider
it strong, per se, for a dark porter beer like
that. But it feels full. It feels full of flavor.
It's not watery, like some porters could be.
It's not overly bitter. They didn't lean too
heavy into the coffee notes. And it's not the
same bitterness you get from an IPA. And I find
that an interesting distinction, because when
we rank these beers, we always tell... what the
ABV is and what the IBU is, the International
Bitters Unit, and Porter and Stout bitterness
is so distinctly different than IPA bitterness.
And this is an excellent proof of that, where
it's 45, I think I said. It was on the IBU. And
it's just like a wholesome coffee -ness. Fruity
kind of coffee flavor. Liked it good stuff. Yeah,
I agree Well with a tasty porter in our gullet
yummy, we're doing a little tier listing today
a little segment from my old days that We like
to crack out sometimes because making a tier
list is just a fun thing to do. Yeah This week's
tier list is revolving around entertainment pretty
broad category. A lot of things can qualify as
entertainment. So I picked 15. On a whim, the
first 15 forms of entertainment I thought of.
OK. And we're going to be ranking them. I'm going
to kind of be presenting this to Mark Mo for
Mark Mo to rank. I love that. And I'll interject
if I feel it wise. Very good. It'll be on a scale
from F being the worst of the worst. The worst.
Of the worst. D being bad, C being mid, B being
good, A being great, and S being the best of
the best. Superior! Absolutely. Let's start off
this entertainment focused tier list with going
to a ballpark slash gridiron. Going to a ballpark,
uh... That is fun. Watching a little baseball,
watching a little football. It's fun. That definitely
brings joy. Well, unless your team gets their
ass kicked, that's not fun. Yeah. But overall,
the day is usually good. I would probably...
I'd probably put that in A tier. A tier? Yeah.
Would get S if things like that were more affordable.
Sure. But I think A tier is good. That's totally
fair. Next one down, scrolling social media.
Hmm. Boy, that's a tough one. Because there are...
Okay, so... That is a tough one. Yeah, I'm trying
to think of I'm trying to think of the various
ones. I go on the most I'm actually grabbing
my phone right now so so threads I feel More
than any more any of the social media I have
been able to tweak to the point where everything
in my thread is my interest everything You've
been able to game the algorithm. I have. Yeah.
Threads is literally everything I enjoy. It's
been great. Like I'd say one out of 40 is something
I don't like. That's a pretty good percentage.
It's a good ratio. That's a good ratio. So I
think Threads does an excellent job. Facebook,
not so much. My issue with Facebook is more timing.
So like, for example, I'll pull up Facebook.
And I scroll in my feed, and there's something
four days ago, two days ago. I'm like, well,
I would have loved to have known that. Right.
And I didn't know, because they don't do things
chronologically. Yeah, they do it suggestion
-based. And I don't like that. Ever since they
made that change, I've not walked back onto Facebook.
Terrible. Yeah, it's terrible. If a friend posts
an event, that's what I want to see. Yeah. That's
what I want to see in my feed, and I don't see
it until days later. I'm like, god damn it, I
miss that. Right. So Facebook, you're... fucking
stupid for that. Which is weird because they
own threads. Right. Twitter, oddly enough, I
think recently has gotten a little bit better
in me being able to weed certain things out.
So I'd say it's about not as good as threads,
but it's more like 60, 40, close to maybe 70,
30, where it's mostly stuff I like. And then
some stuff, if it irritates me enough, I'll be
like, I don't want to see this boom, bam, bam,
they suck. But they're a little better, oddly
enough, with the idiot running it. So that part's
not so terrible. Insta's Insta. I don't think
that's influenced one way or the other. I think
it's just about the people that you follow and
the content that they're posting at the time.
Maybe a little bit too much ad base. Like sometimes
I'll see things like, I don't know that person.
I don't know that business with that. So a little
bit too much of that. I think that needs to lessen.
I don't know if they have like an Insta Plus
where you can pay per month and not see those
and I can just see the people that I follow.
That would be lovely. So looking at all of that
and then there's Snap and Snap's just Snap. Yeah.
And there's nothing extraordinary about it. It's
just your friends taking a photo in a place in
a moment. and sometimes it's fun and funny, and
sometimes you're like, oh, they're at the coffeehouse,
cool. And then you just kind of move along. Yeah,
it's more akin to instant messaging photography.
Yeah, right, exactly. So, all right, so to fast
forward, I guess, now that I've taken all this
time, I would probably put it at a C. So some
bad, some good. C's gotta be where it is. That's
totally fair. Because it is such a complex thing.
So complex. It's so easy just to doom scroll
for an hour and be like, wow, where'd the time
go? Right. And sometimes you get like that funny
clip makes you giggle. Right. And then I go,
oh my god, so and so would love to see that.
Or it would make them happy. And so I get to
send that along. Facebook, I'm going to tell
you the best thing about it. Tells me when someone's
birthday is. Yeah. End of story. They should
just call it birthday. Because, like, literally
when someone has a birthday or whatever, then
I can do that. Oh, by the way, LinkedIn is shit.
LinkedIn is awful. It's dog shit. I mean, somebody's
got to come up with some other version of that.
I think originally the original idea for it was
good. Now it's shit. Half the jobs on there are
shit. It's awful. Yeah, I agree. Scrolling social
media gets a C. How about watching movies at
the cinema? That's s -tier. That's your speciality
right there. That's s -tier, man, because look,
are we paying too much at the theater? Yeah,
we are. Can you go on special days where you
pay less? Yeah, you can go and it's better. Yeah.
But I love the fact you can go there. Now they
have the big comfy seats. Oh, yeah. So even though
you're paying more, you're getting a big comfy
seat, which for a late movie is bad for me because
I'm going to bed. Yeah. But I love the big comfy
seats. Theater popcorn, there's something about
it. It's just better than all other popcorn.
It's built different. It's built different, man.
And I know like the buttery topping, and there's
like almost no butter in it. I get that. Whatever
it is, I love it. And a little bit of salt, get
a big old bucket, something to drink. And now
they've got all these other new snacks. My friend
Castree actually went there and just told me
she had edamame. Which I've been eating. So obviously
this person's had influence on my life In a good
way, but yeah, like she got edamame at the movie
theater I went on a birthday to the movies friends
were gonna surprise me with what we were seeing
and we ended up seeing Taylor Swift's heiress
tour now nothing gets tete I think she's great.
She treats her people great. I love her not my
music Yeah per se like there's two or three songs
of hers. I really like the rest. It's like whatever
Lyrically, she's very good. She's strong. I get
why she writes what she writes. But like, I wouldn't
have picked that. They kind of picked it on purpose.
And the bar, I went and had just a pre -beer
at the bar in the movie theater. Well, no, in
the movie theater comes later. I was there early
and had one at the bar. And that's when the guy
informed me, hey, we can bring you beer in the
theater. I said, what? And he told me how I could
schedule. Like pay in advance for whatever I'm
getting. Yeah. And schedule them to bring them
at the time I want. That's so cool. I was like,
great. I want a double Buffalo Trace every 15
minutes. And that's exactly what they did. And
I was drunk as fuck by the end of that show.
And I was like dancing and moving around. They're
like, I didn't know you liked Taylor so much.
I'm like, I know what I'm really wasting. This
is a great birthday present. I love me some movie
theaters man, I love it. It's stories like that
that explain the S tier. It really does, it really
does. Next form of entertainment, going to a
concert. Oh man, oh gosh. Which is tough in the...
Ticketmaster Live Nation era. Right, because
fuck them. I mean, they're absolutely the worst.
Tickets are $700. How can some billionaire, who
isn't an asshole, come up with a company that
sells tickets to events with like a small $2
.85 surcharge and just charges people for the
ticket? Right. Why can't that exist? It can exist.
Should exist. If I were a billionaire, I would
do it. I'd be like, I'm done with those guys.
Here's my company. Who's going to use it? But
that aside, that frustrating part aside, I love
live shows. I love live music. I went to Riot
Fest last year. I'm going again this year without
question. If people want to come with me, great.
If they don't, I went by myself. I made friends.
I had a great time. And the music was spectacular.
S tier. I love live shows. S tier. A second S
tier. I love it. next one down playing video
games cathartic um and then it's it's kind of
what reading a book was in the 90s it's like
that today because a lot of times i don't have
time to read a book mind you my eyes don't like
reading a book because a print's usually very
small and it's just it's a pain in the ass for
me personally to read read anything sure um so
I love a video game, man, you know? And if I'm
on there, call it duty, GTA 5, and I've had a
long day, and I'm blowing shit up, and I'm stealing
cars, and I'm ditching cops, and just like an
hour of that, and I'm good, now I want to go
in the kitchen and eat some meat. I love it.
And it is a totally valid art form. There are
so many single -player, story -based games that
are just thrilling. 100%. 100%. I would say A.
A? A. I'm going to interject my authority here.
Oh, shit, okay. And I'm gonna go A+. Okay, I'll
give it A+. I'm adding a plus. Okay, that's fair.
Watching sports on TV rather than at the field.
Also good, and it depends where you're watching.
Like, I can watch from home. And when I watch
at home, it's more white noise. Like I can sit
there, but if I'm comfy on a Sunday afternoon,
probably going to doze off at some point. You're
snoozing. You're snoozing. Yeah. But if I'm at
the bar and I'm watching the Bears, I'm pumped.
I'm into it. There's other people there that
I know. And it's almost like being live at the
game sometimes when you're there with other people.
I love watching. Oh, man. Man, I'm about to give
another A. Yeah. Another A? Yeah. It is a fun
watch. It is a fun watch. Moves us right along.
Strip club. Now that I have money, and I had
to start it with that, before it would have been
like, almost like an incomplete grade because
it's like, I don't have money for that. I'm like,
what am I doing? Like not applicable. But now
I do. And being a single guy who apparently is
going to be single until he dies, there are some
forms of entertainment that become necessary
from time to time. I have had adventures in the
past at strip clubs that were more funny than
anything, believe it or not. The stories and
things that happen are hilarious. I love it.
It's a lot of fun. I think especially if you
go there with a certain mindset that, you know,
they're just entertainers. They're making a buck.
Yeah. You know, no different than a server or
a bartender or anything like that. They're just
sexier and they have less clothing on. Service
work is service work. Yeah. As a matter of fact,
one of my friends, she went there the other night,
you know, and just like, yeah, I don't know how
I ended up here, but I ended up there. Yeah,
it's kind of one of those places where you say
I don't know how I ended up here sure But you
do and you make the best of it you have fun And
if you're in the right mindset and having a good
time then the girls have a good time So I'd say
a solid B be a solid B. Excellent a ends up in
the good tier. Mm -hmm Next one down is watching
YouTube videos. I do like that and I like the
fact that you subscribe to certain things you
can you can go to your subscriptions and then
it's just the stuff that you're following right
right which I like so it's not like I have to
go through stuff to get to stuff I really want
so I suppose as a social media side of things
like YouTube's pretty good for that. Yeah, these
are who I'm following. This is what I want Oh,
yeah, just click on your subscription tab and
then your stuff comes up right and when it's
got some new content It's got a little dot by
it and you're like, oh something new and then
I can just click on it So I do love the ease
of that very very much I feel like even the recommended
tab of similar content that you're not subscribed
to it's getting better Yeah, slowly, but surely
so where like the Facebook suggested Timeline
right and the Instagram constant ad berate Seem
to be getting worse by the day. Yeah, I've always
felt like YouTube's recommendations the more
content I watch that I want to watch Yeah, it
does hone in and recommend similar things rather
than doing the opposite. Yep. Oh, yeah, I agree
with that I Give it. I don't know man. Cuz then
I just feel like I haven't had TV TV in a while
because I haven't had the internet, so I'll probably
be getting that back next month. But not having
it, I got into the YouTube more. So there are
some I really do like, and then, you know, when
you're watching them, like our show is short
of two hours. Sometimes an hour and a half, closer
to two most times. Most shows aren't that long.
Most shows are 30 to 45 minutes. And that's kind
of perfect from a timing perspective with a lot
of the ones that I watch. Right, depending, right?
Like a lot of the edutainment videos I watch
always hit that sweet spot of like 45 minutes.
And I'm like, it's enough. That is a sweet spot.
Right. It's enough where you can fully explain
what's going on. You can put it in layman's terms
and you can make it entertaining to learn things.
And I love that. Whereas in this podcast format
that we do, I love the idea of people throwing
us on during a road trip or listening when they're
out gardening or something. Like it's not white
noise necessarily, but it's something that you
can be entertained by and learn things and thought
provoking conversations. And you can do other
things too. And I love that for us. I think it's
awesome. Because I enjoy listening to podcasts
as much as I enjoy making them. Yeah. Oh yeah.
No doubt. B plus. B plus? I think I'm gonna have
to authoritatively bring you up to an A on that
one. So take that with a grain of salt, listeners.
Mark Moe gave a B+. I am bringing it to an A
because YouTube is easily 70 % of my entertainment
on a daily. It's just, there's so much good stuff.
Okay, there's so much good stuff. So I'm I'm
authoritatively bringing it up, but you can take
that with a grain of salt and we'll move on to
this next one. Watching a play at a local theater.
I don't do that much, but I do like it, especially
if I know someone that's in it. I do like going
to support the theater. When I was in Chicago,
I did a little bit more, but they have kind of
a vibrant theater whereas, you know, towns here
in northwest Indiana, they're smaller and they
have a much smaller theater scene. Right. But
like theater in Chicago, I've definitely done
that. I've seen Phantom of the Opera. I've seen,
oh god, there's plenty of others that I've seen
over time. Late Night Catechism, which is hilarious
if you're Catholic and grew up in that. That
was kind of a funny play. But I do like them.
Just don't see them as much if I ever move back
to the city. I think I would probably go more
regularly I would probably give it a C plus C
plus. I like that. I always found it a very fun
art form It is a fun art form and I really I
really like it a lot and especially when you
go to those plays That are more interactive with
the audience. It's it's hilarious. It's so much
fun. It's fun It very much is next up here going
to a museum Also something I love, something
that, like when I go to the city, like I go to
the city and I'm going like fun places, well
I can't say the museum isn't a fun place, but
fun places meaning like bars and restaurants
and like things of that type of entertainment.
And don't go to the museum much, but I love the
museum. The Art Institute of Chicago is one of
my favorite places. I can sit there and stare
at stuff and just stare into it for... you know,
so much time, and just love it. There's one room
that has these... that has these stained glass
windows, the stained glass window room, and it's
like there are a lot of blues and stuff, and
it's illuminated from the back side, so it's
so great. And there have been times, because
you can get food in the Art Institute, and I
believe where that exhibit is, it's not far from
the cafeteria. And when I take a lunch break,
if I'm in there, I just sit across from them.
I just look at them and hang out in there, because
I really love it. I don't know if I'd go S -tier,
but definitely A+. A+. I love museums. I've always
loved the science museums. What is it, the Science
Institute? Museum of Science and Industry. Yeah.
So cool. That's really great. Indianapolis has
a good science museum. There's a couple of other
really good ones that I've been to, too. Aerospace
Museum we went to in DC. Yes, we did. So fun.
Well, yeah, and just seeing all of the different
shuttles and the spacecraft, it's just awesome.
It's beautiful. You look in those little capsules,
there was a... Dude in there? It's like, oh my
god. There's multiple dudes in there? Like, holy.
I would have had claustrophobia, man. Oh, I get
it bad. Oh, I would. Yeah, that would have been
rough. As soon as that thing hit the water, I'd
be like, get me out of here. Right. Next up,
a fireworks show. Was much more fun when you
guys were young because it was just part of like
whatever we were at yeah It's fun at the ballpark
like at the White Sox be like oh, yeah We're
in a fireworks night or whatever And you know
like they suck and they were probably gonna lose
like it's like our the highlights gonna happen
after the games are right right but I would say
I'd say see it's not something like I would plan
to go to but if it's happening It's like yeah,
it's fine. Yeah, I agree. I can get down with
that Comic Con or similar conventions? S. Full
S? Didn't even hesitate. I, not going to those
with you and Sarah has left a massive hole in
my life. Those were so much fun when we go to
those. And now Sarah lives like eight hours away,
so there's no excuse we should be able to put
one on the books here in the near future. I love
them just being able to like see people that
are in your favorite shows Meeting the illustrators
and those in the comic books and things like
that You just swag there that you don't normally
find anywhere local artists local artists and
then you're meeting people that like like all
same shit you do and then all of the All the
different presentations they do with the people
that are in the movies and shows and stuff like
that We saw what we saw Jeremy Renner Yeah, we
saw Anthony was Anthony Anthony Mackie with him.
Maybe he might have been I know we saw Bruce
Campbell at some point. Yes Yeah, Bruce Bruce
Campbell for all of you not in the know He was
on a show called Burn Notice, which our entire
family loved. Just such a great spy show in the
way that they did it. And Bruce Campbell was
kind of like the comedy of that show. He's kind
of a clown. The sidekick. He is. But he's also
like BFFs with director Sam Raimi, who did all
the Tobey Maguire Spider -Man movies and had
a cameo in all of those. And you can't say. Bruce
Campbell without saying Evil Dead. Without saying
Evil Dead, right? Evil Dead and Army of Darkness.
I mean, all that is great. So, yeah, man, I just
like... He was so cool. God, I love those things.
They're just... Very inspirational, too. He gave
a... He gave a chat. I think he was taking, he
was fielding Q &As. I think we were in a theater
somewhere. We were. We watched Bubba Hotep. Yeah,
that's right. Fun movie. That was fun. But yeah,
he was fielding questions and someone in the
audience asked like, what does it take to become
a filmmaker? Like it's something I'm interested
in. And he gave a very, very direct... Concise
thoughtful thoughtful answer. Yeah, he was just
like go do it go do it Don't sit around thinking
how you can do it. Go do it. I love that You've
got cameras in your pockets. Go do it. Yeah,
and I was like How awesome is that how neat?
Yeah, he's a cool dude. That would definitely
be a dude I would like to sit in a room with
and just hang out. You have a beer and talk shit
like that, right? Very fun. Yeah, but that's
that's s -tier hundred percent hundred percent
the final three to rank. We have not dipped below
C tier yet today. But then again, entertainment
is entertaining, so I didn't think we would get
many Fs. Listening to music. Yeah, you know...
when you're feeling a certain way anyway like
you could be going to the gym so you need something
extra to hype you up or you're in a moment and
you're feeling some stuff and maybe you need
some some sad music maybe breakup music maybe
shit like that You know I get that yeah, you
know ambient music just to like bring up a room
like you would do in a coffee shop Right, or
you're just doing chores around the house, and
you just need something in the background Yeah,
you know you're sitting there doing dishes who
the fuck likes doing dishes Yeah, you're doing
dishes, and I'll send like oh, that's a banger.
That's just kind of picks you up a little bit
I love it. It's great You know, I drive to work
now, so I have like a half an hour drive to work.
So I love listening to music and things like
that. So A plus. A plus. I love that. I was about
to say it better be A plus or better. You're
about to yell at me. Yeah, exactly. No, that's
fair. Next one up here. Watching live wrestling
shows. So live. Yep. Being there live. In the
arena. And we've done that a handful of times.
It's fun. It's so much fun. And look, you know,
I get some of you aren't into it. Some of you
are. It's it's it's it's athleticism. It's it's
a sports event, but it's also like drama and
everything. It's kind of like a play. Sure. But
sports, too. It's kind of its own interesting
thing that's lasted since the 1930s or however
long it's been around. I love it. It's great.
And it's different than if you're sitting at
home. So you're sitting at home and you're sitting
at home and you're thinking, all right, what
are we doing? Here's all these commercials. Here's
this, here's that. And it's like, it's not as
fun if you're watching it from home, but if you're
live, you're there and you're with the fans and
your favorite guys are coming out and you're
cheering, they're booing, whatever. And you're
having fun with the people around you. It's a
blast. I love it. And here we are. We're looking
at another A tier. Yeah, I like that. I like
that assessment. Um, and I've always found how
distinctly different wrestling is, professional
wrestling, to things like UFC. Sure. Where anytime
I watch UFC, or I see clips of it, it's like,
it is impressive, the athleticism. Oh, no doubt.
And the martial arts is an art, absolutely. But
at the same time, these people are killing themselves
on a television screen, for most of the time,
pretty shitty wages. And that part bothers me.
Whereas, like, these people go out there and
they perform. Yep. Like... And there's stories
to be told, and like... Oh, sure. Watching CM
Punk drop a knee on someone as they fly through
the air, it's like, oh, man. It's great. The
RKO out of nowhere. Those are great, too. Fuck.
Absolutely. I love it. It's so cool. I love that.
The last one on this list, and... Granted there
are many more forms of entertainment that didn't
make this list but the last one to tier list
today county state fair also fun for me is a
source of income because I I do it for a couple
weeks a year and I do security for the shows
and Florida Porter County Fair this year So advertise
for free. Sorry, that's so bad with that anyway
I really like them, but there's a lot of other
things dependent on the time that you have there.
So for example, most fairs happen in June, July,
and August. And, uh, it can get hot. Yeah, sometimes
the weather is miserable. If you are hot at the
Porter County Fair, it sucks. You're like, where's
the 4 -H building? Because it's just like, you
are just, you're miserable. You definitely don't
want to be hanging out with the cows in the barn
when it's 95 degrees. That just sounds shitty.
Breathing pure methane. Right. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
So, yeah, that's a shitty deal. So, anyway. Uh...
And then rain, of course. That's like a thing.
Yeah. I do enjoy it, but something I didn't enjoy
last year, maybe this is happening with a lot
of county fairs, is the pricing. So the pricing
of the food has really gone up. Oh, yeah. I mean,
not 10%. We're talking closer to 20, 25%. And
it begs the question, are the vendors being charged
more to host? More than likely. There. So they
have to up. And they have to up it. Right. So
you're sitting there and I'm like, wait a minute
and also inflation like I go to this one called
the chuck wagon, right? And then they have this
they have this container that has chunks of beef
tenderloin Onions potatoes peppers. It's baller
dude. It's so fucking good wonderful and I could
have sworn last year I paid well bucks and This
year was like 18. Oh, I'm like That's a lot of
inflation. That's a 50 % increase. The beauty
is they ran out of the smaller containers, and
they had to give me a big container. Oh, shucks.
For that price or whatever. I was like, ah, ah,
ah. Yeah, so I, um... Got away with murder. I
did. Getting away with murder. Okay, we can't
do any more than that. Do you want to get copyright?
Anyway, um... So I love the food. I'm not as
much in the rides But if you have kids like that's
kind of cool bumper cars are always fun man There's
like we have we have a like a legendary family
story of this bear that I got for my daughter
Alex and we named him 30 because it cost me 30
bucks to fucking get him to keep trying the game
right because it acts like I want that bears
like cool like how do you do this he tells me
and like I do that he's like no no you didn't
get him like what what I did what I didn't get
yeah no you got to do this like okay and I like
do that he's like well no you got it I'm like
dude stop it so like if I have 30 bucks in and
I finished and I looked at miss a kid I gave
you 30 bucks can you give me the fucking bear
it's so he liked grabs it and hands it to me
I'm like thank you highway robbery those carnival
games while they are scams scams oh yeah anyone
that thinks they can walk up to those hoops and
get it in no shot angled the backboards are fucked
They're all scams, but they're fun. But they're
fun. If you got $10 in your pocket burning a
hole, they're just fun. Just do it. Yeah. Just
do it. Would I rather play pull tabs? Of course,
but you know, it is what it is. Yeah. At least
you get a game out of it. I'm going for the inconsistency
involving the weather and the price increases.
I'm going to... downgrade it to a B, but I do
like it. Yeah, I was gonna say BB +, is about
where I was at. Well, that is the end of tier
listing, and here are the scores. Going to a
ballpark slash gridiron, A. Scrolling social
media, C. Watching movies at the cinema is an
S. Going to a concert is an S. Playing video
games, A+. Watching sports on TV is an A. Strip
club gonna be... Watching YouTube videos, I may
have adjusted a bit up to an A. Yeah. Watching
a play at a local theater, got C+. Going to a
museum, A+. Firework show, C. Comic -Con, S.
Listening to music, A+. Watching live wrestling
shows, A. County or state fair, a B. I love it.
I think that's fun. I love tier listing and I
love entertainment. So I felt that was a beautiful
merger we could do. That was great. I had fun.
Hopefully you had fun. I did it was it was uh,
it was a different It was a different kind of
day and a different vibe and uh aiden took the
lead on this one And I appreciate that uh when
you're doing Creative stuff content creation
Uh, your brain has to be in a certain space which
mine has not been for days um, but uh, I am I
am I'm hopeful i'm getting better within my thoughts
trying to readjust a few things here. But I felt
like that first hour was great. It was a good
conversation, because it was related to some
shit that was going on in my life. But then it
was thought -provoking for the listeners as well.
That's the point. And that's why we do what we
do. I mean, sure, we're silly, and we want to
have fun, and we do all that kind of stuff. But
in the same sense, we want to do things that
are heartfelt and thought -provoking, because
that's just kind of the dudes we are, and that's
the kind of content we like. Yeah, you've got
to walk that line. The opening dialogue can be
more serious. It can be politically leaning.
And then the other 70 % of the show is just us
being goofballs and having fun. That's right.
A little bit of everything. Yeah. And up to you
lovely viewers and listeners. whichever your
favorite is, there's always links in the description
and on YouTube and podcast apps. I believe you
can skip around to, oh, I like the list best.
You can skip to that, that's fine. I won't judge
you. But yeah, we try and make a little bit for
anything, for anyone listening, and we try and
make it for ourselves, too. Because I think that's
important when you... produce art or content
in general, that you're not only doing it for
those who may enjoy it, but you're doing it for
yourself. Yeah, absolutely, 100%. Damn right.
Well, smooch, subscribe, and if you don't, I
will kill your family in front of you. Whoa,
whoa, what? In a game of Minecraft. Oh, okay.
Okay, that's a very hypothetical game of mine.
I got you. It's just hitting me how violent that
sounded. I should have led with the Minecraft
guy. Yeah, I just like that's... Well, unless
they look like the villagers. So the villagers
are these little dudes, right? And they got these
big noses, and they just... And they kind of
walk around, and it's like you want to do right
by them, and you want to build their house. and
you want to help them and all that stuff's great
but then like you bump into them they're like
grrr and then you're like well fuck you dude
and then you fucking kill them and their whole
family and then you take all their shit