WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.299 Hi, everybody. Welcome to the Mark Mo Show Fireside 00:00:03.299 --> 00:00:05.900 Chats. I'm your host, Mark Maloney. And joining 00:00:05.900 --> 00:00:09.560 me this week is aspiring singer -songwriter Ayva 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:12.099 Rainwater. Welcome, Ayva. Hi. Thank you. Thank 00:00:12.099 --> 00:00:14.880 you for having me. Oh, absolutely. I was very 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:18.219 excited to have you on Fireside Chats. Overdue 00:00:18.219 --> 00:00:22.420 for one of my chats. So I am going to ask you 00:00:22.420 --> 00:00:26.250 first just to introduce the world. to Ayva a little 00:00:26.250 --> 00:00:30.070 bit. Yeah. Well, my name is Ayva. I am currently, 00:00:30.070 --> 00:00:33.409 you know, going to school. I started really getting 00:00:33.409 --> 00:00:35.649 into music. Well, I've really it's never really 00:00:35.649 --> 00:00:39.490 been a question. I grew up very music oriented. 00:00:39.609 --> 00:00:41.729 It's always been a really big part of my life. 00:00:41.829 --> 00:00:45.350 You know, music festivals and concerts like music 00:00:45.350 --> 00:00:48.469 has always found a way to like reach me in the 00:00:48.469 --> 00:00:50.310 darkest moments of my life, as I'm sure, you 00:00:50.310 --> 00:00:52.649 know, a lot of people can relate to that. But 00:00:52.649 --> 00:00:56.479 that's really. kind of what's keeping me really 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:58.359 passionate about everything that I'm doing right 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:00.780 now. You know, I'm a full -time student. I work 00:01:00.780 --> 00:01:04.019 full -time. You know, I'm really just kind of 00:01:04.019 --> 00:01:06.719 hustling through life right now, and I'm really 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:08.739 glad that I could be here with you today to kind 00:01:08.739 --> 00:01:11.120 of take it slow a little bit, slow down a little 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:13.159 bit, you know, get to sing a couple of songs 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:15.900 and have a good time with you. Absolutely. I'm 00:01:15.900 --> 00:01:17.819 glad that's kind of the mindset because that 00:01:17.819 --> 00:01:20.400 was the whole point behind all of this. Now, 00:01:20.540 --> 00:01:25.340 just for audience perspective, I suppose, I'm 00:01:25.340 --> 00:01:27.799 going to let everybody know how Ava came to sit 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.439 in this seat having this podcast with us today. 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:35.359 So I frequent an establishment called Buffalo 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:37.180 Wild Wings, I'm sure most of you have heard of 00:01:37.180 --> 00:01:39.540 that or have one in your neighborhood or city. 00:01:40.180 --> 00:01:42.879 So we have one here in Valparaiso, Indiana, and 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:45.640 I frequent it, go see games, et cetera, et cetera. 00:01:46.659 --> 00:01:51.379 Anyway, Ava is a server and a friend, and one 00:01:51.379 --> 00:01:54.359 day she's at the bar rail. I'm having a discussion 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:57.280 with our mutual friend, Jess, and all of a sudden 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:01.239 she breaks into song. And my eyes kind of opened, 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:04.920 and I was like... okay, where did that come from? 00:02:05.500 --> 00:02:09.259 And I was just like, what are you doing here? 00:02:09.620 --> 00:02:12.819 It's not a rare occurrence either. I'm sure Mark 00:02:12.819 --> 00:02:16.159 can attest to this. I'm typically singing or 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.800 humming or whistling. And it just so happened 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:22.560 that one of my favorite songs came on and I felt 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:26.819 it necessary to serenade my friend Jess. And 00:02:26.819 --> 00:02:29.000 she definitely appreciates that for sure. But 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:31.280 it was like the first time I really heard your 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:34.180 voice. And I thought, holy cow. Like, you're 00:02:34.180 --> 00:02:36.240 really good. And so we just kind of had that 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.840 discussion of like, OK, is this just something 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:43.020 you break into song in restaurants and hanging 00:02:43.020 --> 00:02:47.740 at home and whatever? Or is this something that's 00:02:47.740 --> 00:02:49.240 a passion? Is this something you want to do? 00:02:49.860 --> 00:02:54.300 And once Ava had said, music is. is everything, 00:02:54.539 --> 00:02:56.500 and blah, blah, blah. I said, OK, well, I have 00:02:56.500 --> 00:02:59.460 this old podcast, and I think we need to have 00:02:59.460 --> 00:03:02.979 a chit chat and maybe get this thing going. So 00:03:02.979 --> 00:03:06.139 that kind of brought us here. So I am grateful 00:03:06.139 --> 00:03:08.599 she decided to sing that day. And now I've heard 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:11.060 her. Me too. Me too. Absolutely. I've heard her 00:03:11.060 --> 00:03:13.460 more frequently now. And if you are listening 00:03:13.460 --> 00:03:16.719 and you're in the Valpo area, this might be a 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:20.319 little bit of foreshadowing. But you may hear 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:25.240 Ava. in and around town this summer. So we'll 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:28.639 definitely check our socials. And we'll definitely 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:33.240 share all that info later on. But that information 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:36.000 will be on there. So definitely check it out. 00:03:37.259 --> 00:03:39.340 I may be more excited than you are. I'm like, 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:42.240 this is so great. You're like, nah, I'm not, 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:43.939 buddy. I'm not going to lie to you. I didn't 00:03:43.939 --> 00:03:46.479 even sleep before this podcast. Because I even 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:50.080 had a dream, Mark, that I was sitting on the 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:53.039 edge my bed playing my guitar and for the life 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:55.759 of me I could not get that thing in tune so I'm 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:57.680 just sitting there and everything that I'm playing 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.800 is the most like awful screeching noise and I'm 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.900 like I'm like having these nightmares before 00:04:02.900 --> 00:04:05.719 this podcast but I think that's really just a 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:07.860 manifestation of how excited I am because you 00:04:07.860 --> 00:04:10.180 know I've always loved to play music. I've always 00:04:10.180 --> 00:04:11.780 loved to make it, but I've never really done 00:04:11.780 --> 00:04:14.240 anything with it. You know, I have the Instagram. 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:16.819 I've played for a couple of friends, but it's 00:04:16.819 --> 00:04:18.500 never really been something like, oh, I'm going 00:04:18.500 --> 00:04:20.300 to put myself out there. You know, there's always 00:04:20.300 --> 00:04:23.740 been priorities ahead of that. So for this opportunity 00:04:23.740 --> 00:04:26.259 to present itself, you know, I'm definitely. 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.920 if not more, equally as excited as you are. Yeah, 00:04:29.980 --> 00:04:32.680 well, it is so awesome, and I'm just glad I can 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:37.000 help in any way. But I think once you guys hear 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.519 her voice and hopefully get an opportunity to 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:43.160 see her live, you will be just as excited because 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:48.139 you are very talented. I'm going to ask a series 00:04:48.139 --> 00:04:51.639 of questions, and then we'll hear from you a 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:54.720 song or two. And so the first one I have here, 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:57.399 when did you start singing? And when did you 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:59.819 realize that you could sing? Because everybody 00:04:59.819 --> 00:05:03.000 sings, right? Right, yeah. for many of us we 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:04.959 should keep that into the confines of our car 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:08.660 or our shower and that's that's it you know but 00:05:08.660 --> 00:05:10.779 at some point you know you were singing like 00:05:10.779 --> 00:05:13.860 everyone else and you know was it was it family 00:05:13.860 --> 00:05:16.060 was it friends did you have that realization 00:05:16.060 --> 00:05:17.839 that you're like wow i can kind of carry a tune 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:20.839 here yeah well for to answer that question i 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:24.500 actually have a story for you my grandma she 00:05:25.100 --> 00:05:27.459 was probably one of the people that I was closest 00:05:27.459 --> 00:05:29.920 to. You know, my mom, she was pretty young when 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.819 she had me, so we lived with them for the majority 00:05:32.819 --> 00:05:36.399 of my upbringing. And she was telling me this 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:38.180 story one time because, you know, I was just 00:05:38.180 --> 00:05:40.459 sitting there pretty young, just like singing 00:05:40.459 --> 00:05:43.379 to myself one of the trendy pop songs that was, 00:05:43.379 --> 00:05:46.519 you know, great at the time. And she tells me, 00:05:46.660 --> 00:05:49.120 she's like, you know, Ava, the first time that 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:52.939 I ever held you. you were singing to me and she 00:05:52.939 --> 00:05:55.459 said like fresh in the hospital you know like 00:05:55.459 --> 00:05:58.199 the first time my grandmother ever held me she 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:01.100 said that i could already you were singing this 00:06:01.100 --> 00:06:03.839 beautiful song to me within seconds of meeting 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:07.019 you So of course as a young kid, I'm gonna take 00:06:07.019 --> 00:06:09.420 that and be like, okay. Well, I'm the best then 00:06:09.420 --> 00:06:13.920 My grandma told me I'm gonna make it so I'm gonna 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:17.300 make it so I I mean it was never really when 00:06:17.300 --> 00:06:20.860 did I discover because you couldn't Catch me 00:06:20.860 --> 00:06:23.980 as a kid silent I was never silent. If I wasn't 00:06:23.980 --> 00:06:26.500 singing, I was dancing. If I wasn't dancing, 00:06:26.699 --> 00:06:30.300 I was making my parents watch me as I performed 00:06:30.300 --> 00:06:33.120 on the fire mantle to a play that I just learned 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:38.699 about. I've always loved performing in any sort 00:06:38.699 --> 00:06:40.500 of way. I've always been a very performative 00:06:40.500 --> 00:06:44.939 person. In terms of when I figured out like, 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.339 man, I might actually, you know, like have something 00:06:47.339 --> 00:06:50.480 here. This is something I don't really know, 00:06:50.699 --> 00:06:53.800 you know, it's because it was always, you know, 00:06:54.259 --> 00:06:56.639 I was always doing it. I was always singing and 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:00.199 everything. It was never something that I really 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:04.120 questioned. There have been multiple times where 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:07.439 my parents have told me to be quiet or shut up. 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:11.339 So it was actually, you know, I just thought 00:07:11.339 --> 00:07:13.300 that it was everyone, you know, I thought everybody 00:07:13.300 --> 00:07:15.180 was just always singing and stuff like that. 00:07:15.339 --> 00:07:18.470 But, you know, in elementary school I was. Yours 00:07:18.470 --> 00:07:21.569 truly mrs. Claus in the play so to get a head 00:07:21.569 --> 00:07:23.629 roll like that in elementary school was a big 00:07:23.629 --> 00:07:26.769 deal So this is some that Meryl Streep get started, 00:07:26.769 --> 00:07:30.870 right? Yeah, yes exactly, but you know there 00:07:30.870 --> 00:07:34.389 were a couple of talent shows Things like that, 00:07:34.490 --> 00:07:39.149 but I first started actually Writing when I was 00:07:39.149 --> 00:07:41.629 in high school, and it's actually one of the 00:07:41.629 --> 00:07:43.709 songs that I want to play for you today It's 00:07:43.709 --> 00:07:46.209 a song called my endeavors and I remember I was 00:07:46.209 --> 00:07:49.399 watching a YouTube video And I saw somebody take 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:54.879 the words, or the word, I guess, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, 00:07:55.100 --> 00:07:57.379 and he turned it into a rap. And I was like, 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:00.920 hold on. I want to try that. Sure. You piqued 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:03.000 my interest. Now I'm going to try to do something. 00:08:03.860 --> 00:08:09.199 And it just flowed out of me. It was the first 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:12.459 song I ever wrote. I have ever written and I 00:08:12.459 --> 00:08:15.100 wrote it within an hour. You know, it was that's 00:08:15.100 --> 00:08:19.199 good. Yeah, I it was just the the lyrics just 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:23.420 kind of came to me a little bit. And then I played 00:08:23.420 --> 00:08:26.639 it for one of my friends. His name was Rafi and 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:30.290 he was like, Eva, like. we need to do something 00:08:30.290 --> 00:08:32.389 with this. We can't just sit on this. Like, this 00:08:32.389 --> 00:08:35.149 is incredible. You have something incredible 00:08:35.149 --> 00:08:37.509 here. And ever since then, I've been writing, 00:08:37.509 --> 00:08:41.889 you know, just music for myself, for other people. 00:08:43.129 --> 00:08:45.509 Yeah, it's just always kind of been there. That's 00:08:45.509 --> 00:08:48.509 awesome. Who, as you were growing up and you 00:08:48.509 --> 00:08:50.990 were singing, so it could be grade school years, 00:08:51.129 --> 00:08:53.730 high school years, who were some of those... 00:08:54.539 --> 00:08:56.779 Musical influence and I know you said that you 00:08:56.779 --> 00:08:58.759 had heard the rapper use super gallop French 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:00.759 those days I don't even know if I can say the 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:08.980 word but anyway So who were some of your earlier 00:09:08.980 --> 00:09:13.240 influences so I actually grew up on reggae so 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:17.159 oh, okay Yeah, like this sublime slightly stupid 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:21.179 311 in my all -time favorite is dirty heads. 00:09:21.179 --> 00:09:27.519 Okay, so I really had that sunshine, happiness, 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.200 feel -good vibes. I was drawn to that kind of 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:34.580 music, sort of. And not all of it is strictly 00:09:34.580 --> 00:09:37.759 reggae. I like to call white people reggae, because 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:39.960 they're all white and they're playing these reggae 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:46.019 songs. But that, I've always been really... You 00:09:46.019 --> 00:09:48.100 know, I've always really gravitated towards that 00:09:48.100 --> 00:09:50.059 kind of music and it always finds a way back. 00:09:50.220 --> 00:09:51.700 So, you know, I'll go through the phases where 00:09:51.700 --> 00:09:54.480 I'm really into like pop music and things like 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.840 that or, you know, country, just trying out different 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:03.750 artists. Like I'm not, I'm not strictly... you 00:10:03.750 --> 00:10:06.169 know a fan of one particular genre of music but 00:10:06.169 --> 00:10:08.169 i always find my way back to reggae and dirty 00:10:08.169 --> 00:10:10.750 heads has definitely been that band for me i 00:10:10.750 --> 00:10:12.370 know you're looking at me like the name is like 00:10:12.370 --> 00:10:15.809 who are these guys no i i actually know do you 00:10:15.809 --> 00:10:19.149 i do okay they will be that song will be in my 00:10:19.149 --> 00:10:21.090 wedding i don't know how it's going to be one 00:10:21.090 --> 00:10:22.990 of the one of their songs will be in my wedding 00:10:22.990 --> 00:10:25.590 i haven't figured out the you know details of 00:10:25.590 --> 00:10:32.039 it yet but um other than that It's string cheese 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:34.159 incident was always a big one with me and my 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:39.840 dad Harry Styles I can't lie. I was definitely 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.960 one of your Textbook fan girls in high school, 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.519 you know, yeah, I went to the concerts, you know, 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.240 I watched the YouTube videos all of the different 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.799 So forms of media that you can consume about 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:55.600 him I did and probably every single one that 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:57.500 is out there on the internet. I loved him growing 00:10:57.500 --> 00:11:02.379 up Yeah, I mean I can't really think of any more 00:11:02.379 --> 00:11:06.179 no no no that sounds good now was there a moment 00:11:06.179 --> 00:11:11.000 in your life that Made you believe you could 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:15.320 pursue something with your singing or and or 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:19.279 your songwriting I think it would have to be 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:22.139 that moment when I wrote that first song and 00:11:22.139 --> 00:11:24.899 I took it to my friend and I showed him and he 00:11:24.899 --> 00:11:27.259 just kind of had this like expression on his 00:11:27.259 --> 00:11:29.639 face like he it was something that he had never 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:31.919 experienced before I think at that moment was 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:34.519 when I was like oh shit you know like this actually 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:38.539 this might actually be something but I've never 00:11:38.539 --> 00:11:40.700 you know I've had a couple of friends who have 00:11:40.700 --> 00:11:43.000 joked around about like you know signing me up 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.679 for America's Got Talent and all like this stuff 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:47.740 but it's never something been something that 00:11:47.740 --> 00:11:50.559 I've taken really seriously. You know, cause 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:54.259 you know, the parents were always like, I mean, 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.000 obviously you're not going to drop anything and 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:57.919 do this. You know, I never really promoted it 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:00.679 that much. I've always been very school oriented, 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.580 work oriented. Just, I'm going to do what I have 00:12:03.580 --> 00:12:06.320 to get done. And this is something that I enjoy. 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.159 This is something that like, I can meditate to, 00:12:09.299 --> 00:12:13.059 I can find peace in my music. Like it's a very... 00:12:13.230 --> 00:12:15.970 therapeutic thing that I do for myself, like 00:12:15.970 --> 00:12:20.809 this hobby is. I've never really thought about 00:12:20.809 --> 00:12:23.330 it up until this point about it actually being 00:12:23.330 --> 00:12:24.889 something, you know, which is why I'm so thankful 00:12:24.889 --> 00:12:27.169 for this experience and being able to let more 00:12:27.169 --> 00:12:31.730 people hear it. But I think to answer your question 00:12:31.730 --> 00:12:37.090 now. Yeah, no, that's that's great. And that's 00:12:37.090 --> 00:12:39.710 a that's a great answer, because a lot of times 00:12:39.710 --> 00:12:43.440 there are things that we are. exceptional at 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.360 and as you say that you know whether it's just 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:48.659 kind of your it's your happy place or you meditate 00:12:48.659 --> 00:12:53.139 or whatever that case might be but it never dawns 00:12:53.139 --> 00:12:59.259 on us that maybe we should share this gift with 00:12:59.259 --> 00:13:02.639 others well it's also very intimate you know 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:07.080 it's a very you're giving a lot of yourself to 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:10.059 other people at least that's the case for me 00:13:11.479 --> 00:13:13.980 It's a scary thing to do, you know? It's a very 00:13:13.980 --> 00:13:16.700 vulnerable thing to do because, you know, your 00:13:16.700 --> 00:13:21.419 voice is who you are. Right. And, like, you're 00:13:21.419 --> 00:13:23.440 kind of just putting yourself out there to be 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:25.820 like, hey, tell me what you think about myself, 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:28.200 which is, like, it's scary for anybody, right? 00:13:28.820 --> 00:13:31.720 Oh, yeah, for sure. You know, I've always not 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:36.679 been very... camera shy but but this is scary 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:39.200 it's a scary thing to do yeah oh no doubt and 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:42.539 and we are now uh gonna introduce the world uh 00:13:42.539 --> 00:13:44.840 to your singing and uh the title of the song 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:46.879 you're gonna be singing again is my endeavors 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:56.500 okay coming up Supercalifagilisticexpialidocious 00:13:56.500 --> 00:13:58.720 All my friends are stepping up and getting on 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:00.679 their whole shit I'm just trying to make sure 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:02.919 my head's lower than the ceiling It's daydreaming 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:05.240 smart endeavor cause I'm sick of how my life 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.779 is My lover told me stop you just being over 00:14:09.779 --> 00:14:12.559 dramatic I wonder if he knows that he's the reason 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:14.940 that my mind's sick Damn that's kinda dark I 00:14:14.940 --> 00:14:17.440 don't even know how I got here Let's just take 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:20.360 a break and scroll until we lose all our peers 00:14:21.970 --> 00:14:24.970 I'm trying to remember how to get my shit together 00:14:24.970 --> 00:14:26.950 Cause it's been a second since there's been a 00:14:26.950 --> 00:14:34.149 storm that I could weather on My friends tell 00:14:34.149 --> 00:14:36.610 me my music's pretty but I can't accept it really 00:14:36.610 --> 00:14:39.309 If I tell my enemies they just say that I'm being 00:14:39.309 --> 00:14:48.870 greedy Why do I have to have an anxious mind? 00:14:48.990 --> 00:14:53.570 Do I have to overthink my life? Do you like me 00:14:53.570 --> 00:14:59.990 or are you just being nice? No, I never said 00:14:59.990 --> 00:15:04.169 I'm not enough No, I never said I can't keep 00:15:04.169 --> 00:15:08.490 up So then why do I make up these lies? It's 00:15:08.490 --> 00:15:16.870 raining outside but I love it Crying is my nature 00:15:16.870 --> 00:15:19.360 but I can't lie, it feels so nice Kinda like 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:21.720 the feeling when we accidentally brushed Lies 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:23.840 like love was in a movie Coulda sworn you looked 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:26.340 in my eyes Held me in your arms again I swear 00:15:26.340 --> 00:15:30.340 these were the best nights But then the lights 00:15:30.340 --> 00:15:32.720 turned on and I was looking at the sunrise My 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:34.820 sister came in banging saying that we're leaving 00:15:34.820 --> 00:15:37.580 in five Told her I was coming with dark circles 00:15:37.580 --> 00:15:40.120 under my eyes When's it start to feel like this 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:44.830 life's gonna be worth my time? I'm trying to 00:15:44.830 --> 00:15:47.230 remember how to get my shit together Cause it's 00:15:47.230 --> 00:15:49.049 been a second since there's been a storm that 00:15:49.049 --> 00:15:57.149 I could weather My friends told me my music's 00:15:57.149 --> 00:15:59.590 pretty but I can't accept it really If I tell 00:15:59.590 --> 00:16:02.950 my enemies they just see that I'm being greedy 00:16:02.950 --> 00:16:12.820 Why do I have to have an anxious mind? Do I have 00:16:12.820 --> 00:16:30.740 to overthink my life? Do you like - It's raining 00:16:30.740 --> 00:16:34.059 outside If you told me I was crazy I would politely 00:16:34.059 --> 00:16:36.480 oblige My mind's never been this hazy I don't 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:39.019 even know the time Been going to bed too early 00:16:39.019 --> 00:16:42.120 Waking up at 5 o' 5 Pop a couple ibuprofen So 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:44.100 I'll make it through this life I don't think 00:16:44.100 --> 00:16:46.879 nobody notices When my hair needs a wash Or when 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:48.700 strolling through the hallways Look at my feet 00:16:48.700 --> 00:16:50.840 when I walk But you feel the same way Don't you 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:52.720 feel a lonely little loss For sure there was 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:54.639 someone that could help you Guess we're all just 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:58.799 pretty flawed Why do I have to have an anxious 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:19.339 mind? Alright everybody, we are back. That was 00:17:19.339 --> 00:17:23.319 amazing. Thank you for sharing that. Why don't 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:26.019 you just tell everybody a little bit about that 00:17:26.019 --> 00:17:28.779 song, maybe the inspiration for it, or anything 00:17:28.779 --> 00:17:33.819 lyrically. Oh, man. Where do I start? Wherever 00:17:33.819 --> 00:17:37.059 you want. I was a million percent an age -D teenager 00:17:37.059 --> 00:17:41.400 when I wrote that song. A lot of the times, all 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:47.180 of these songs, I struggle with just forcing 00:17:47.180 --> 00:17:50.430 myself to write. I can't do it everywhere. I 00:17:50.430 --> 00:17:54.190 can't do it at any specific time. A lot of my 00:17:54.190 --> 00:17:59.529 songs really come from exactly how I feel in 00:17:59.529 --> 00:18:01.970 a certain moment. And if I can find a melody 00:18:01.970 --> 00:18:06.109 that I'm able to, you know, be able to portray 00:18:06.109 --> 00:18:09.049 that emotion, then it just, it just happens, 00:18:09.049 --> 00:18:13.309 you know? So with this song, I think I was a 00:18:13.309 --> 00:18:16.430 sophomore in high school. You know, I was going 00:18:16.430 --> 00:18:20.500 through You know your typical things that someone 00:18:20.500 --> 00:18:22.460 of that age might go through I was having a lot 00:18:22.460 --> 00:18:26.779 of trouble, you know with self -esteem I have 00:18:26.779 --> 00:18:30.500 was I was having some family issues I was just 00:18:30.500 --> 00:18:35.000 in a pretty honestly a dark place so You know 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:39.819 a lot of these lyrics in this song are About 00:18:39.819 --> 00:18:42.559 me feeling like I'm behind, you know, like even 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:45.319 in that opening line. I'm just you know, I'm 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.539 trying to keep my Head under the ceiling while 00:18:48.539 --> 00:18:50.400 everybody else is you know, like outliving their 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:52.519 life. I'm just trying to be a human, you know 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:58.099 sure and um It was about how self -aware I was 00:18:58.099 --> 00:19:01.019 at that time and how I struggled with you know 00:19:01.019 --> 00:19:02.920 Everybody's eyes being on me all the time even 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:05.440 if they might not have been Basically, this is 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:08.799 about my anxiety that I had in high school So 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:11.259 in that last little bit it talks about you know, 00:19:11.339 --> 00:19:15.509 I don't think anybody notices when My hair needs 00:19:15.509 --> 00:19:17.309 to be washed or you know when I'm strolling through 00:19:17.309 --> 00:19:19.349 the hallways. I'm looking at my feet You know 00:19:19.349 --> 00:19:23.670 it's really just about me not having that self 00:19:23.670 --> 00:19:25.750 -esteem that I felt like a lot of the people 00:19:25.750 --> 00:19:28.890 around me did and you know searching for that 00:19:28.890 --> 00:19:34.269 and You know like when it talks about how? Crying 00:19:34.269 --> 00:19:37.309 is my nature, but I can't lie it feels so nice 00:19:37.309 --> 00:19:39.269 kind of like the feeling when we accidentally 00:19:39.269 --> 00:19:45.589 brush thighs so that for me is I don't look at 00:19:45.589 --> 00:19:47.809 crying as a negative thing. I think it's a release 00:19:47.809 --> 00:19:50.329 that our body needs and I'm very, you know, thankful 00:19:50.329 --> 00:19:53.710 for that. Sure. And the same with, you know, 00:19:53.789 --> 00:19:55.630 it's about dreaming, right? Like you're dreaming 00:19:55.630 --> 00:19:57.450 about this life that you could have, this life 00:19:57.450 --> 00:20:01.450 that you want, but you don't have it. So I'm 00:20:01.450 --> 00:20:03.849 having all of these warm, bubbly lyrics come 00:20:03.849 --> 00:20:06.289 out, you know, about how exciting youth is and 00:20:06.289 --> 00:20:09.650 like about how these like falling in love and 00:20:09.650 --> 00:20:11.349 all of this stuff. And then it's like, oh, the 00:20:11.349 --> 00:20:14.069 light turned on and I'm going to school, you 00:20:14.069 --> 00:20:16.849 know? So it's about longing for something that 00:20:16.849 --> 00:20:20.269 you don't have. The anxiety that comes with being 00:20:20.269 --> 00:20:23.690 young. Honestly, that's why it's so hard for. 00:20:23.890 --> 00:20:25.849 Well, not hard, but why I've never really gone 00:20:25.849 --> 00:20:28.690 anywhere with this, because this is like the 00:20:28.690 --> 00:20:32.190 very raw, unfiltered emotions of what I was feeling 00:20:32.190 --> 00:20:34.890 at that time. And that's kind of what music is 00:20:34.890 --> 00:20:41.109 for me. I'm not really looking for, in making 00:20:41.109 --> 00:20:43.829 music, to produce something for other people. 00:20:44.289 --> 00:20:48.109 It's always been for me. It's always been to... 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:51.180 kind of express in a way that I can understand 00:20:51.180 --> 00:20:53.599 what I'm going through because I have a hard 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:55.440 time talking about these kind of things as I'm 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:58.240 sure we all do but I found that outlet through 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:00.480 music and this was the first song where it was 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.539 like okay this works you know and that's part 00:21:03.539 --> 00:21:05.619 of why it is so therapeutic for me because it's 00:21:05.619 --> 00:21:07.900 those deep down emotions that are really hard 00:21:07.900 --> 00:21:11.240 to talk about but I can you know play the guitar 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:13.640 to it a little bit and all of a sudden I can 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:16.559 create something beautiful Yeah, most definitely. 00:21:17.099 --> 00:21:19.720 And it kind of leads me to this question. Do 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:24.099 you feel it's more important to be authentic 00:21:24.099 --> 00:21:29.119 or write and perform for the audience or for 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:31.819 maybe what is kind of in vogue or what is popular 00:21:31.819 --> 00:21:34.660 right now? And I think you did address that a 00:21:34.660 --> 00:21:37.220 little bit. A little bit. I mean, I'm always 00:21:37.220 --> 00:21:39.420 going to be on the self -expression side. You 00:21:39.420 --> 00:21:43.640 know, I don't... I mean, you can attest to this, 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:45.420 even when we're both at beat -ups and one of 00:21:45.420 --> 00:21:47.980 those shitty pop songs comes on, I feel like 00:21:47.980 --> 00:21:50.680 I'm gonna, you know, scream. I can't stand it, 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.039 that repetitive beat. I mean, I understand the 00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:56.359 purpose for it, it's just not my thing. Everything 00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:00.920 that I create is one million authentically me, 00:22:01.460 --> 00:22:04.400 and that's kind of why it's so special to me. 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:08.859 I think there are times, like, you can dedicate 00:22:08.859 --> 00:22:11.559 something to another person. or something that 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:14.779 you're passionate about, or if you're trying 00:22:14.779 --> 00:22:16.900 to reach a larger audience about an important 00:22:16.900 --> 00:22:20.039 subject, then I think it's okay a little bit. 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:22.859 As long as it's coming from you, you know? You're 00:22:22.859 --> 00:22:25.400 putting your own emotional twist on it. You're 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:27.339 expressing how you feel about a certain thing. 00:22:27.700 --> 00:22:30.519 There are different forms in which a person is 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:34.140 able to do that. So in that way... You know, 00:22:34.140 --> 00:22:37.519 I'm not for the cookie cutter. This is exactly 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:39.779 what I want you to sing here This is how many 00:22:39.779 --> 00:22:42.440 beats per minute it has to be I'm very like let 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:45.019 it flow out And if it's something that you're 00:22:45.019 --> 00:22:46.940 passionate about it'll come naturally to you, 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:48.900 you know There doesn't have to be a script for 00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:51.559 it. Yeah, cuz that's how all of my songs were 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:54.140 made You know, I pick up a guitar and what I 00:22:54.140 --> 00:22:56.819 do is I play one I'm no, you know guitar connoisseur 00:22:56.819 --> 00:22:58.940 or anything I'm not super professional when it 00:22:58.940 --> 00:23:00.720 comes to that. I play what I think sounds good 00:23:01.419 --> 00:23:04.059 What I usually do is I pick up the guitar and 00:23:04.059 --> 00:23:07.619 I put my finger down on just like one fret, and 00:23:07.619 --> 00:23:11.039 I just play that one note. I'm like, okay, I 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:13.440 have this one note, let me find the next note, 00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:19.049 and I build it from that. I really let it come 00:23:19.049 --> 00:23:21.049 naturally to me and what I think sounds good, 00:23:21.109 --> 00:23:24.190 what I think sounds right. If a lyric is too 00:23:24.190 --> 00:23:25.950 cheesy, I will throw it out, because if it's 00:23:25.950 --> 00:23:27.670 coming from the top of the head and it sounds 00:23:27.670 --> 00:23:29.670 like it would be in a Disney movie, then I don't 00:23:29.670 --> 00:23:34.390 like it. But yeah, I think that it's a million 00:23:34.390 --> 00:23:36.390 percent more important to be authentic than it 00:23:36.390 --> 00:23:39.829 is to fit in with. Yeah, yeah, and I really appreciate 00:23:39.829 --> 00:23:42.190 that because a lot of times that you'll you'll 00:23:42.190 --> 00:23:45.269 hear bands That'll you know, they'll be interviewed 00:23:45.269 --> 00:23:47.589 and they'll have an album. It's a great album. 00:23:48.190 --> 00:23:50.750 But there's always that like that that one hit 00:23:50.750 --> 00:23:53.950 on that album. But that's the one that was driven 00:23:53.950 --> 00:23:56.329 by the music companies. It was driven by the 00:23:56.329 --> 00:23:59.029 producers and they hate playing it live. And 00:23:59.029 --> 00:24:00.750 they would rather play all the other stuff that 00:24:00.750 --> 00:24:03.049 had much more meaning. That's definitely always 00:24:03.049 --> 00:24:04.569 something that I've had in the back of my head. 00:24:04.589 --> 00:24:06.230 Like when I am going to these concerts and I'm 00:24:06.230 --> 00:24:08.809 going to these music festivals, I'm like, how 00:24:08.809 --> 00:24:11.109 pissed off are they right now that they have 00:24:11.109 --> 00:24:13.910 to play this one song over and over and over 00:24:13.910 --> 00:24:16.329 again. It's a song that everybody knows and everybody 00:24:16.329 --> 00:24:18.049 goes crazy. But in the back of their head, they're 00:24:18.049 --> 00:24:20.920 like, oh, my gosh. like I just created this you 00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:23.220 know this was mine but you like this one more 00:24:23.220 --> 00:24:26.420 you know right that's that's definitely always 00:24:26.420 --> 00:24:29.259 been something like a topic of conversation with 00:24:29.259 --> 00:24:31.940 my family because that's a very it's it's obvious 00:24:31.940 --> 00:24:34.559 you know you can tell when an artist isn't passionate 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:35.980 about what they're doing and they're doing it 00:24:35.980 --> 00:24:38.359 because they have to and I think that's a really 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:40.519 important differentiation to make when you are 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:44.420 creating music yeah absolutely now would you 00:24:44.420 --> 00:24:54.960 say your your music. Does it fall into a specific 00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:59.599 genre necessarily? I don't think it does on purpose. 00:25:00.140 --> 00:25:04.099 Okay, all right. But I'm noticing a trend that 00:25:04.099 --> 00:25:07.299 a lot of them because they are, it does come 00:25:07.299 --> 00:25:09.440 on when I'm going through something and I need 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.359 an outlet. They all tend to have a pretty sad 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:14.480 undertone. I think I tried sitting down and writing 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:19.000 a happy song one time. It was really bad. And 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:21.200 it's not, you know, it's unintentional. I promise 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.160 I'm cool. Like I'm not depressed or anything, 00:25:23.740 --> 00:25:27.220 but it's just, you know, when I am making this 00:25:27.220 --> 00:25:29.950 music. it's serving a purpose for me, you know, 00:25:29.950 --> 00:25:33.369 it's serving me. It's relieving me of some of 00:25:33.369 --> 00:25:37.410 the heavier emotions that, you know, I sit with. 00:25:37.509 --> 00:25:40.430 And it's a form of expression that alleviates 00:25:40.430 --> 00:25:45.170 that for me. So intentionally, no, but it always 00:25:45.170 --> 00:25:49.210 seems to be a little bit sad. Yeah. And you know 00:25:49.210 --> 00:25:51.670 what? I think it's I think that's genuine, you 00:25:51.670 --> 00:25:54.109 know, and I think a lot of people out there, 00:25:54.329 --> 00:25:55.910 whether they're musicians or they're writers, 00:25:56.109 --> 00:25:59.069 poets, whatever they do, There there is that 00:25:59.069 --> 00:26:01.809 other side that we we typically kind of keep 00:26:01.809 --> 00:26:04.210 behind a curtain that we don't let people see 00:26:04.210 --> 00:26:07.789 each and every day But through our arts we kind 00:26:07.789 --> 00:26:10.109 of let that out even even painters or anything 00:26:10.109 --> 00:26:12.910 else like that Intentionally to which was so 00:26:12.910 --> 00:26:15.950 beautiful about it. Yeah, it is for it is for 00:26:15.950 --> 00:26:22.390 sure. Yeah now the be it that we haven't established 00:26:22.390 --> 00:26:26.390 a genre for your music at this point, do you 00:26:26.390 --> 00:26:31.789 envision in the future experimenting with different 00:26:31.789 --> 00:26:35.890 styles or types of music? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. 00:26:36.130 --> 00:26:40.490 This is funny. There was even my uncle. He plays 00:26:40.490 --> 00:26:43.410 guitar. My dad just got a DJ set for Christmas 00:26:43.410 --> 00:26:45.509 and my brother just got a bass. Oh, that's fun. 00:26:45.509 --> 00:26:47.210 So, you know, we were shooting the shit and we 00:26:47.210 --> 00:26:48.789 were like, we're going to start a band. It's 00:26:48.789 --> 00:26:50.450 going to be called Rainwater, Inc. This is going 00:26:50.450 --> 00:26:53.150 to be great. And one time my uncle sent me the 00:26:53.150 --> 00:26:56.329 sample of, you know, what he had played on the 00:26:56.329 --> 00:26:58.410 guitar. He added a couple of layers to it and 00:26:58.410 --> 00:27:00.670 whatever. Like all of a sudden I'm going, well, 00:27:01.029 --> 00:27:04.130 you know, Jack and he had a heart attack. And 00:27:04.130 --> 00:27:07.049 I was like, where did this come from? You know, 00:27:07.069 --> 00:27:09.670 I like I heard the music and that's like. immediately 00:27:09.670 --> 00:27:12.390 where I want. So, you know, it's interesting 00:27:12.390 --> 00:27:14.450 because it is, I think it's really something 00:27:14.450 --> 00:27:19.750 that just kind of shows up sometimes. So I'm 00:27:19.750 --> 00:27:22.710 definitely all for experimenting. you know, with 00:27:22.710 --> 00:27:25.650 any of the genres. Sure. I'm like, I want to 00:27:25.650 --> 00:27:27.369 try everything that there could possibly be. 00:27:27.369 --> 00:27:29.670 I want to see what my voice fits in most with 00:27:29.670 --> 00:27:32.089 what I think is the most fun. I'm definitely 00:27:32.089 --> 00:27:34.329 open for exploring. And I think it's just because, 00:27:34.329 --> 00:27:37.710 you know, I don't have those tools yet to kind 00:27:37.710 --> 00:27:39.769 of experiment with that. You know, I have my 00:27:39.769 --> 00:27:42.589 guitar and I have myself. And that's where it's 00:27:42.589 --> 00:27:44.910 taken me. That's right. Well, it like one song 00:27:44.910 --> 00:27:48.170 immediately popped in my head. And that was the 00:27:48.170 --> 00:27:50.990 song that Eminem did with Dido and, you know, 00:27:51.009 --> 00:27:54.579 she had, she had her lyrics and they kind of 00:27:54.579 --> 00:27:57.160 put that into his rap. And normally you'd be 00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:59.740 like, you know, this is not a peanut butter and 00:27:59.740 --> 00:28:02.099 chocolate kind of situation. This is really different, 00:28:02.099 --> 00:28:06.559 but it works. It just works. So no, that's interesting. 00:28:06.619 --> 00:28:08.339 So if you do that in the future, we're all going 00:28:08.339 --> 00:28:11.039 to be very excited to hear what's coming next. 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:13.640 So when thinking about that creative process. 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.000 What comes first for you? So is it like, is it 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.859 like a melody? Do you just start strumming? Or 00:28:20.859 --> 00:28:23.039 is it something lyrically, like you start doing 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.160 writing and then you kind of fit the melody into 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:27.799 that? Or is there some sort of chord progression 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:31.400 with that? It is never the lyrics first, is what 00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.039 I've found. I think I've tried a couple of times 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:36.720 to just sit down and write to begin with, and 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.799 then it just never really flowed with whatever 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.359 I could come up with on the guitar. It just, 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:43.440 that doesn't really... It's not really the way 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.460 my brain works, I guess, but kind of like about 00:28:46.460 --> 00:28:49.700 what I was telling you earlier. Like when I'm 00:28:49.700 --> 00:28:52.000 in that mood and I'm like, I'm looking at my 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:53.660 guitar across the room and I'm like, all right, 00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.539 I'm going to go pick this thing up. It usually 00:28:56.539 --> 00:29:00.299 starts with me just, you know, going over the 00:29:00.299 --> 00:29:02.460 some of the stuff that I've created in the past. 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:05.259 And then, like I said, I'll just play one note. 00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.420 and from that one note I'll immediately just 00:29:08.420 --> 00:29:11.220 get this like vision just from that one note. 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.799 I'll be like okay I know exactly what I can do 00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:16.420 with this and then I'll find that you know the 00:29:16.420 --> 00:29:18.200 coordinating note and then the other coordinating 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.319 note and from there it's just a matter of what 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.819 kind of melody do I want this to be and what 00:29:24.819 --> 00:29:27.529 do I want this to be about. And honestly, Mark, 00:29:27.730 --> 00:29:30.690 it's I'm never really thinking about what I want 00:29:30.690 --> 00:29:34.250 the lyrics to be. It's always immediately what's 00:29:34.250 --> 00:29:36.529 at the top of my head when I'm writing comes 00:29:36.529 --> 00:29:38.869 out. And, you know, I'll play with it a little 00:29:38.869 --> 00:29:43.630 bit naturally. But it's every time that I'm writing, 00:29:43.730 --> 00:29:46.529 it is one million percent authentic, which is 00:29:46.529 --> 00:29:50.349 why it's so like which is why I'm putting so 00:29:50.349 --> 00:29:53.210 much emphasis on like I do this when I need to, 00:29:53.210 --> 00:29:56.940 because it really does just. Snap, you know, 00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:58.940 there's not a lot of thought that needs to go 00:29:58.940 --> 00:30:01.259 behind it You know I've worked pretty hard on 00:30:01.259 --> 00:30:03.220 a couple of these songs and I put a lot of effort 00:30:03.220 --> 00:30:05.880 into a couple of these songs But it was never 00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.819 like I was searching for it It was like I'm waiting 00:30:08.819 --> 00:30:11.000 for it to pop in my head if that makes sense. 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.210 It's really hard to explain does Yeah. It totally 00:30:15.210 --> 00:30:18.150 makes sense. And I think of one story off the 00:30:18.150 --> 00:30:23.450 top of my head where Black Sabbath, so Tony Iommi, 00:30:23.690 --> 00:30:25.549 is they're just sitting around, he's just playing 00:30:25.549 --> 00:30:29.630 the guitar. Yep. And he's playing something from 00:30:29.630 --> 00:30:34.420 a composer. Gustav Holst starts playing Mars 00:30:34.420 --> 00:30:39.259 the bringer of war. That became Black Sabbath, 00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:42.880 Black Sabbath. So I love how the way you explain 00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:44.559 that because I think that's so true for so many 00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:46.940 artists that they just get that sound and then 00:30:46.940 --> 00:30:49.200 everything else just kind of... It kind of just 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.039 falls into place. It falls into place. Okay, 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:53.880 so now I'm excited because we're gonna hear more 00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.160 music from Ava Rainwater. What do you have for 00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.690 us? I have a song called Do You? to you. Okay, 00:31:00.829 --> 00:31:27.819 coming up guys. Renegade, daddy's been gone for 00:31:27.819 --> 00:31:34.200 days But you've still got blood in those veins 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:38.480 Cause Friday turns to Sunday blues You haven't 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:43.319 moved, not much to do Only when you grace the 00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:54.799 bruise can you tell What was meant for you I 00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:59.839 think I'm drowning and the only thing I want 00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:11.440 is you But how can you save me when all you can 00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:23.269 do is do you Flowers bloom from the trees Strong 00:32:23.269 --> 00:32:29.230 like the evergreens Can you stand tall and still 00:32:29.230 --> 00:32:37.150 bleed? Mama said sit up straight Daddy's been 00:32:37.150 --> 00:32:42.210 gone for days But you've still got blood in those 00:32:42.210 --> 00:32:48.039 veins Cause Friday turns to Sunday blues, you 00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:53.059 haven't moved, not much to do Only when you graze 00:32:53.059 --> 00:32:58.099 the bruise can you choose What was meant for 00:32:58.099 --> 00:33:08.900 you? I think I'm drowning and the only thing 00:33:08.900 --> 00:33:20.599 I want is you But how can you save me when all 00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:27.049 you can do is do you? All right. We are back. 00:33:27.089 --> 00:33:29.970 And that was the second song from Ava Rainwater. 00:33:30.029 --> 00:33:33.349 You are listening to the Mark Mo Show Fireside 00:33:33.349 --> 00:33:35.930 Chats. And why don't you tell everybody a little 00:33:35.930 --> 00:33:39.430 bit about that one? Oh, man. This one. Yeah. 00:33:39.609 --> 00:33:42.910 A lot there. Oh, yeah. It's a pretty heavy one. 00:33:43.529 --> 00:33:47.190 I wrote this song my freshman year of college 00:33:47.190 --> 00:33:53.309 when I was going to Purdue. And it really, I 00:33:53.309 --> 00:33:56.460 was pretty alone. over there. I'm not, I'm not 00:33:56.460 --> 00:33:59.799 going to lie, you know, I was working and I was 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.960 working full time essentially and going to school 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:06.059 and that was pretty much it. So there's this 00:34:06.059 --> 00:34:10.139 song embodies that sense of like drowning almost, 00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.760 you know, like I feel like I'm working and I'm 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:14.960 working and I'm working to like stay afloat, 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.079 but it's just not enough. And that's kind of, 00:34:19.380 --> 00:34:23.320 this song was synonymous to me reaching out and 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:28.780 being like, hey, something has to change. I need 00:34:28.780 --> 00:34:31.260 a little bit of help in that it's kind of like 00:34:31.260 --> 00:34:35.360 that call and no return is what this song essentially 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:39.079 is. I'm going through all of these really heavy 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.940 emotions and I'm not really finding this help 00:34:41.940 --> 00:34:47.119 or assistance that I needed. And it's also, this 00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.760 song, I will say, it touches a little bit on 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.099 the storytelling aspect that we were kind of 00:34:52.099 --> 00:34:55.280 talking about earlier. Because when I was writing 00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:58.840 this, these lyrics were just coming into my head. 00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:03.500 And it kind of created this story, touching on 00:35:03.500 --> 00:35:07.360 aspects about a mom and a dad and this significant 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:13.260 other from this song. And not all of it. it really 00:35:13.260 --> 00:35:16.139 doesn't have full truth all the time. My music 00:35:16.139 --> 00:35:19.659 doesn't. It's really creating this emotion that 00:35:19.659 --> 00:35:24.760 I'm trying to portray through the lyricism. So 00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:30.780 a lot of this was me trying to come up with these 00:35:30.780 --> 00:35:38.900 metaphors and experiences that are equivalent 00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:42.309 to what I was going through at that time. No, 00:35:42.309 --> 00:35:45.010 that definitely makes sense. It is definitely 00:35:45.010 --> 00:35:48.110 deep, but I... Yeah, it's a heavy one. It is, 00:35:48.110 --> 00:35:51.690 it is, but I love it. And the way you present 00:35:51.690 --> 00:35:54.150 it, once again, as we talk about the melody, 00:35:54.409 --> 00:35:56.710 it's just, it was perfect. Thank you. I appreciate 00:35:56.710 --> 00:36:01.349 that. No problem. Do you feel it's more important 00:36:01.349 --> 00:36:05.250 to be... Well, I think I asked this question 00:36:05.250 --> 00:36:12.820 already. Sorry about that. Where... Do you typically 00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:18.599 find inspiration? Is it solely through things 00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:20.760 that you've had happen in your life? Is it through 00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:23.239 a walk in the woods? Is it through, is it just 00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.360 a variety of different things? Okay, that's, 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:29.960 huh. I've never really thought about that one 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.340 before. I think that the majority of the time, 00:36:35.849 --> 00:36:39.750 this inspiration comes from experience, you know, 00:36:39.849 --> 00:36:42.750 heavy feelings that I have been through, but 00:36:42.750 --> 00:36:49.809 that's not strictly, you know, like, shortened 00:36:49.809 --> 00:36:54.010 to these negative experiences. Like you said, 00:36:54.530 --> 00:36:58.460 a walk in the woods, sitting at the beach. Being 00:36:58.460 --> 00:37:01.000 with my brother walking down the street and thinking 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:02.940 like oh this would probably you know make a good 00:37:02.940 --> 00:37:08.559 song a lot of these poles are From real life, 00:37:08.940 --> 00:37:11.619 you know experiences, but they also like I just 00:37:11.619 --> 00:37:13.420 added a little bit of whimsy to them You know 00:37:13.420 --> 00:37:17.000 like I wanted to elevate what I was because I 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.079 I'm a person who feels emotions very deeply You 00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.300 know, I'm a deeply feeling person. So when I 00:37:22.300 --> 00:37:25.019 am creating and writing and all of these things 00:37:25.019 --> 00:37:30.000 I Listen to this melody And I'm like, I want 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.980 to talk about how this melody makes me feel and 00:37:33.980 --> 00:37:37.099 what kind of emotions I can harness through this 00:37:37.099 --> 00:37:39.360 music. And then the lyrics sort of just, you 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:43.539 know, they can be pulled from vacations or moments 00:37:43.539 --> 00:37:46.519 with friends or moments with family or even moments 00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.989 with myself, you know. On the way home from school 00:37:49.989 --> 00:37:52.550 and one of my favorite songs from when I was 00:37:52.550 --> 00:37:54.550 a kid kicks on and all of a sudden I have this 00:37:54.550 --> 00:37:57.489 like Urge to get behind the guitar and create 00:37:57.489 --> 00:38:00.190 that for myself, you know so I'll be listening 00:38:00.190 --> 00:38:03.650 to this music that I love because I I Love a 00:38:03.650 --> 00:38:06.050 lot of music and I'll hear one and I'll be like 00:38:06.050 --> 00:38:08.190 I want to create that I think that's it might 00:38:08.190 --> 00:38:10.050 be a little bit of an ego thing But it's like 00:38:10.050 --> 00:38:13.349 I hear something like this beautiful art and 00:38:13.349 --> 00:38:15.510 I'm like I can do that I'm gonna go do that really 00:38:15.510 --> 00:38:19.429 quick, you know, so that's kind of it just kind 00:38:19.429 --> 00:38:22.670 of comes from a little bit of everything. With 00:38:22.670 --> 00:38:25.829 your writing, now it seems like a lot of your 00:38:25.829 --> 00:38:28.989 writing comes from experience in life, experience 00:38:28.989 --> 00:38:34.369 and stuff like that, but do you also write in 00:38:34.369 --> 00:38:37.650 terms of storytelling or imagination or fantasy 00:38:37.650 --> 00:38:43.900 or things like that? If so, then do you see that 00:38:43.900 --> 00:38:47.940 transitioning into music? Sometimes. Sometimes. 00:38:48.260 --> 00:38:53.719 I think like getting into that storytelling and 00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:57.000 imagination and fairy tales and everything like 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:02.360 this. I think the way that I approach that when 00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:06.480 writing music is to make it a metaphor almost, 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:08.639 you know, like make it symbolic of something 00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:11.269 else. Sure. So there was this project that I 00:39:11.269 --> 00:39:14.949 was working on a couple of months ago, and it 00:39:14.949 --> 00:39:17.889 was called The Eggs on the Stove, No Year's Secrets. 00:39:19.510 --> 00:39:22.750 So that kind of stuff, that kind of symbolicism 00:39:22.750 --> 00:39:25.030 like that, that's what I, I love that stuff, 00:39:25.150 --> 00:39:28.909 you know? So what that kind of means, what that 00:39:28.909 --> 00:39:31.710 phrase kind of means is, you know, there's this 00:39:31.710 --> 00:39:35.550 woman who is cooking breakfast for her family. 00:39:35.900 --> 00:39:39.260 And they're in this. This is a little bit from 00:39:39.260 --> 00:39:42.659 experience or what I imagine to be the reality 00:39:42.659 --> 00:39:45.239 of my situation. But it was about this woman 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.460 and she was, you know, it was a tradition to 00:39:49.460 --> 00:39:51.840 make breakfast every Sunday morning. And she 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.219 took so much pride and happiness in doing it. 00:39:55.699 --> 00:40:00.840 But there was this underlying, you know, film 00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:06.309 of emotion and heaviness that she wouldn't Share 00:40:06.309 --> 00:40:10.929 sure with her kids and I think that you know 00:40:10.929 --> 00:40:17.250 being able to Express that through lyricism is 00:40:17.250 --> 00:40:20.590 really important because it's also You know the 00:40:20.590 --> 00:40:24.190 same as the reality of the situation The eggs 00:40:24.190 --> 00:40:27.690 on the stove know her secrets because you know 00:40:27.690 --> 00:40:30.369 she spends this personal time in the kitchen 00:40:30.369 --> 00:40:34.360 But she's never willing to really you know talk 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:36.780 to anybody else about that and i think that you 00:40:36.780 --> 00:40:39.320 know being able to capture that is a beautiful 00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:44.420 thing so within this fantasy and storytelling 00:40:44.420 --> 00:40:48.300 and creating these narratives for these songs 00:40:48.300 --> 00:40:52.460 i think it's really important that it means something 00:40:52.460 --> 00:40:54.679 you know of course it can be fun and it can be 00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:57.659 upbeat and you can be talking about like this 00:40:58.260 --> 00:41:01.159 guy who goes into the big city and he can suck 00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:05.179 it to the people in his hometown. It serves a 00:41:05.179 --> 00:41:07.400 purpose, but as long as it means something, I 00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.119 think that's all that really matters. I would 00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.039 like to experiment more with it in the future. 00:41:13.380 --> 00:41:15.559 I just haven't done a whole lot with that, but 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:18.360 I have done a lot of the symbolism within my 00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:22.719 music. Yeah, that's amazing. I have this question, 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.179 and I was trying to find the best way to ask 00:41:25.179 --> 00:41:27.900 this. But like, because it's almost like an interview 00:41:27.900 --> 00:41:30.239 interview question. Where do you see yourself 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:31.920 in five years? Yeah, there you go. But I mean, 00:41:32.099 --> 00:41:34.280 that's that's pretty much it. So, you know, if 00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:38.639 you see yourself as as the singer songwriter. 00:41:38.659 --> 00:41:41.940 Yeah. Like five years from now, where could you? 00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:44.300 Where can you envision yourself or where would 00:41:44.300 --> 00:41:48.340 you like to see yourself in terms of like, yes, 00:41:48.380 --> 00:41:51.280 music's important to me, but maybe there's this 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.420 professional side of you that wants to accomplish 00:41:53.420 --> 00:41:55.739 things and personal accomplishments and things 00:41:55.739 --> 00:42:05.840 like that. Man, shoot. I think that honestly, 00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.119 wherever this music wants to take me, I'm going 00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:15.170 to let it. I don't really have like a, I'm gonna 00:42:15.170 --> 00:42:18.530 live in this place, I'm gonna have this many 00:42:18.530 --> 00:42:22.469 records, I'm gonna have this many fans. That's 00:42:22.469 --> 00:42:24.329 not important to me, the statistics don't matter 00:42:24.329 --> 00:42:29.309 to me. I think that my music has the potential 00:42:29.309 --> 00:42:34.530 to speak to a wider audience than myself. And 00:42:34.530 --> 00:42:37.929 if that audience is reactive in the way that 00:42:37.929 --> 00:42:40.469 I think they are, then I'm going to let them, 00:42:40.469 --> 00:42:43.570 you know, decide whether they want to hear more 00:42:43.570 --> 00:42:45.309 of me, what kind of music they want to hear. 00:42:45.670 --> 00:42:48.090 But also, you know, touching back on what we 00:42:48.090 --> 00:42:49.909 were talking about earlier, make sure that it's 00:42:49.909 --> 00:42:55.480 still authentically me in that. I am doing this 00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:59.019 because I love to write and I love to make this 00:42:59.019 --> 00:43:03.860 music. I don't want to get lost in the... sauce, 00:43:03.900 --> 00:43:06.340 essentially. I don't want to get distracted by 00:43:06.340 --> 00:43:08.039 all the big and flashy lights, like I'm doing 00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:10.659 this because I love it. Not to gain anything 00:43:10.659 --> 00:43:14.179 out of it. I love that. I appreciate that. That's 00:43:14.179 --> 00:43:18.099 amazing. Ava, thank you so much for joining Fireside 00:43:18.099 --> 00:43:23.639 Chats. I'm so excited for your future as a singer 00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.719 -songwriter. Is there any message that you would 00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:32.280 like to leave in closing? Any shout outs, anything 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:39.119 like that? Just be kind. Be kind? I think everybody 00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:42.599 could be a little bit more kind. We need that 00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:47.119 now. Big time now more than ever. Shout out to 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:49.880 you for having me on the podcast. Thank you. 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:54.340 Thank you for, you know, taking a shot after 00:43:54.340 --> 00:43:58.039 you heard somebody singing in a bar. Who knew? 00:43:58.219 --> 00:44:01.739 I know, right? Who knew we'd be here? But yeah, 00:44:01.739 --> 00:44:04.699 I think that... I'm just very fortunate for this 00:44:04.699 --> 00:44:06.860 opportunity, and I'm so excited to work with 00:44:06.860 --> 00:44:08.639 you in the future and see where this goes. Absolutely. 00:44:09.300 --> 00:44:11.519 And I think everybody needs to be a little bit 00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:13.019 more kind, and I'm going to end it on there. 00:44:13.300 --> 00:44:15.780 I love that. Now, I appreciate that. And I want 00:44:15.780 --> 00:44:18.880 to thank all of you listening so much. Thanks, 00:44:19.219 --> 00:44:23.039 guys. Thanks for listening in to this edition 00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:27.260 of Fireside Chats. I am Mark Maloney. Make sure 00:44:27.260 --> 00:44:30.219 you listen to fireside chats. Make sure you listen 00:44:30.219 --> 00:44:34.880 to the Mark Mo show Like subscribe share all 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:38.440 that good stuff Because this music's mom so you're 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:41.920 gonna want to do that, right? So We are going 00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:45.980 to close this show With one more song from the 00:44:45.980 --> 00:44:47.880 very talented Ava Rainwater. What do you have 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:51.780 for us in closing? This song is called the lady 00:44:51.780 --> 00:44:57.460 in the dress. Okay, and we We will not get that 00:44:57.460 --> 00:45:00.320 opportunity to kind of explain the song afterwards. 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:01.940 So why don't you just tell everybody what that 00:45:01.940 --> 00:45:06.840 song is about? Well, I wrote this song for my 00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:11.400 mom a couple of years ago they went through a 00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:15.639 divorce and I think there was a lot that I was 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:19.039 internalizing as well as she was that we never 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:22.239 really Felt comfortable talking to each other 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:26.579 about so this song is essentially I see you, 00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:31.119 I hear you, and I love you. And that pretty much 00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:33.000 sums it up. That's great. That's a great message. 00:45:33.300 --> 00:45:36.159 Alright everybody, one more time. Ava Ringwater. 00:45:53.710 --> 00:45:58.750 We haven't talked for days My mind's in a different 00:45:58.750 --> 00:46:03.510 place Things aren't the same as they used to 00:46:03.510 --> 00:46:15.769 be I'm trying to live On coffee and rest But 00:46:15.769 --> 00:46:27.739 if you ask if I'm okay to hide they're always 00:46:27.739 --> 00:46:38.099 by my side the painter in the sky you are the 00:46:38.099 --> 00:46:45.559 lady in the dress who dresses her best to hide 00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:54.130 from what's inside she lays in In the sun for 00:46:54.130 --> 00:47:00.730 that summer feel Do you know how she feels? Lost 00:47:00.730 --> 00:47:10.130 in trepidation I'm hanging on the line Do you 00:47:10.130 --> 00:47:15.369 think I've lost my mind? All of our conversations 00:47:15.369 --> 00:47:24.420 running short Every little thing you say Makes 00:47:24.420 --> 00:47:30.260 me feel some sort of way Let me articulate what 00:47:30.260 --> 00:47:42.420 to say The coffee in rest Is giving me unrest 00:47:42.420 --> 00:48:08.460 I know I should be your You are the lady in the 00:48:08.460 --> 00:48:15.860 dress Who dresses her best To hide from what's 00:48:15.860 --> 00:48:30.010 inside to be her best but there's nothing that 00:48:30.010 --> 00:48:35.349 she wants more than someone to hold her hand 00:48:35.349 --> 00:48:42.670 nothing has felt real there's nothing to be compared 00:48:42.670 --> 00:48:49.750 because every new experience feels like the last 00:48:49.750 --> 00:49:00.690 there's tears on her pillow She wants it to go 00:49:00.690 --> 00:49:07.349 away But she knows better than that She wants 00:49:07.349 --> 00:49:13.530 it to go away Says the feeling will never pass 00:49:13.530 --> 00:49:23.969 But she knows better than that I'm on the countdown 00:49:23.969 --> 00:49:31.320 Can't see two feet around One day that'll be 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:34.239 all she needs