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Hey there everybody, this is Mark Mo from the

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Mark Mo Show Fireside Chats. Interviewing today,

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Justin Anderson from Definitive Details. Justin,

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how you doing, brother? Feeling pretty good,

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man. Feeling pretty good? I love it. I love it.

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We've been trying to get this thing together

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for some time now and now we have, which is great.

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We are here in his... Palatial Estates right

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here off of Lincoln Way. And so Justin, why don't

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you introduce yourself to the crowd a little

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bit. Tell everybody about not so much what you

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do. We're going to get to that, but kind of where

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you came from and where you're at today, man.

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Well, before I get to that, what does palatial

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mean? It means a badass pad. Oh, thank you. You

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got a great place. That's a story. It's a story?

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Well, I got a podcast, so feel free to tell any

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story you want, my man. All right. Let's go back

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to them questions. Go back to the questions?

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We will get back to the questions. All right,

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let's do this. All right, so you grew up, you

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had this love of cars. Where did that come from?

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Man. I actually hated cars. Did you? Yeah. All

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right. was really introduced to the automotive

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scene and industry and love and passion of all

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of it from my my dad uh -huh but when I met him

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I was 11 okay you know going through that divorce

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thing and yeah there's shit through a bad upbringing

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bringing you know this typical divorce thing

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Yeah. But you know, dealing with that as everybody

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does, you know, my mom met somebody else. Gotcha.

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Obviously, I have to hate that man. So I get

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it. Yeah. The rebellious me decides, you know,

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everything he says is going to be wrong, you

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know, for the rest of my life. Yep. Going through

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this cycle of, you know, rebellious teenager.

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Meeting a man that is a real Amazing human being

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for the first time in your life. Yeah it just

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kind of osmosis osmosis Lee like sunk in year

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after year and I went through my shit as a teenager

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and just wanting to Hate everything because of

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the typical Reasons sure. Oh, yeah Nothing crazy.

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I actually had a pretty ding Awesome upbringing,

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but didn't know it at the time. I had to rebel.

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Yeah, of course Started entering into the journey

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of my life as an adult after going through the

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crap I threw put my parents through I I came

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out on the other side and Started to realize

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what I actually wanted out of life and it was

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a lot like what they were trying to coach me

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towards and just Decided you know what screw

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it. Yeah, I started out actually in body work

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and paint Because my dad's friend owned a shop

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and it was the only place that we can get my

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you know troublesome but employed at yeah Okay,

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you know and It was kind of a weird unique situation

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where you know, it was like I was paid pretty

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low amount of money but I was allowed to just

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go in there and Sit and be told a little bit

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of instruction and focus Sure play with a car

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and I had this giant thing with all these nuts

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and bolts and Thing that I thought I was supposed

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to hate and I was given the opportunity to straight

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just Pour myself into something. Yeah, you know,

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it was a actually Valpo out of body. Okay press

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right right behind Duffy's. Yeah, sure I'm a

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name Glen Rosenbaum He Been in that spot since

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the early 80s, you know, just kind of his own

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thing I always had a couple employees and he

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just knew my family and employed a couple other

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people in it and he brought me in and Paid me

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this is like $10 an hour. Maybe it's probably

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like seven back then. Yeah, and he gave me a

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Volkswagen Beetle but some kid From one a top

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paid him like three thousand bucks to just do

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a complete paint job on it But he looked like

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pulled this beetle out of The junkyard, it was

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dense everywhere, like every fender was just

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wavy and gravy. It was a mess. And, you know,

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like, I've learned since, like, this isn't how

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you do bodywork, but the guy gave me, like, a

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gallon of Bondo. It's my 18 -year -old ass in

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front of this car. And he said, so, you know,

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you put it on like this and you do a little of

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that. Yep. You know. Let it wait you sit and

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let it cure out and then you grab this sandpaper

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and you shape it And he's like if you go too

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far, then you put more bondo on it Build it from

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this lumpy mess of crab we didn't bang hammer

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on this one. No, I want this thing Like there's

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probably had to be like 60 pounds of freaking

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bond on this. Oh my god They're probably about

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60 pounds of bondo when I was done with it, but

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just sculpting this wreck of Whatever to turning

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it back into like in my eyes. Yeah, you know

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looking back that thing was perfect Like I recreated

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a whole entire Volkswagen. It probably was wavy

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I have no idea right, but it somebody actually

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just let me Go at something. Yeah, you know and

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I think I worked on that thing for like six months

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Did you really? Wow. So this kid pays $3 ,000,

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he pays me $10 an hour like 40 hours a week for

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six months to just make this thing. Yeah. All

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the way to the point of like I was in there.

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I sprayed part of that. Like, you know, like

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I followed this whole car through the whole entire

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process and it just hit me like all that passion

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that my dad had like poured into me and my family.

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And this was after some trauma. I put myself

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through hell. I got in some big trouble when

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I was a teenager. You know, but when I came out

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of that, I had this, you know, I was gonna work

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hard. At least the work ethic part I transferred

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through. Well, in that moment, like painting

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that car, and then actually getting to buff the

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car, it's one of my most memorable parts, is

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buffing the car. Because I learned that was my...

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my favorite part yeah after all that time just

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really perfecting it to like as glossy as you

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get it but the pride in that man's face the kid

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he was kidding he probably was barely older than

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me at the time like you know like him picking

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that thing up and just so happy and i mean he

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was this is a body shop so you know you you give

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them a car and they're like oh this is going

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to be like you know five days at the most yeah

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six months later A lot of phone calls in between

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then, but you know, just, dude, that kid was

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lit up, lit up. How'd that make you feel? It

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was the first time I was actually truly proud

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of something I had accomplished, honestly. It

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really was. I come from an incredibly strong

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family that push you. They push you, they push

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you, they push you. It's in a kind way, but...

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It's, you know, like being so rebellious, like

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I always found myself on the other side of not

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being, you know, I had too much drama going on

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in my life for anybody to want to tell me how

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awesome I did at something. Yeah. You know? And

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I finally like served my penance and went through

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all that and then this happened. It was pretty,

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it stuck. Yeah. It really did. And in that moment,

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like through that whole thing. And that was what

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I would consider my first step into a career.

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I was very intrigued with how it ran. Like I

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said, I already knew at that point, how the hell

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is he only getting $3 ,000 for something I just

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worked six months on? How does this work and

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what's going on? Business, all that stuff. And

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just started compiling. And from there, I traveled

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through this crazy career. I don't even remember

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your question, but thank you for saying my story.

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No, you are killing it. This is the whole point

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of what we're doing. So you're at the body shop.

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You're learning a lot, the Volkswagen bug, putting

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all that time and effort into it. So you're developing,

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I assume at this point, this passion for this.

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So now when does the idea for kind of having

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your own spot, when does that come into play?

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So I don't know if I can wave sooner. I am incredibly,

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I honestly, I swear. I tried starting multiple

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companies even when I was in like the fifth,

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sixth, seventh grade. Oh, all right. Yeah, I

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stole my lawnmower, my neighbor's lawnmower.

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They borrowed, that's fine. Yeah, I used it to

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mow their lawn and our lawn. And then I realized

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I had access to his lawnmower and I grabbed the

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can of gas and I walked door to door and I started

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selling. Love that. Lawn mowing for five dollars

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a piece. And then I took that money and what

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I couldn't afford and I went to Target and actually

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this was very shortly after because I got in

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trouble for stealing the lawnmower. My mom was

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so mad. The neighbor was actually like, this

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is hilarious. He could do this. And my mom's

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like, she's not allowed to do that. I still remember

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that. But I actually took that. That was actually

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how I started washing cars. Because I took that

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money that somehow didn't get taken away from

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me. And I went to Target, which was around the

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corner. And I bought a bucket and a sponge and

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car wash soap. I went to those same neighbors

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and I started washing their cars. I probably

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screwed them up, you know what I mean? But the

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neighborhood just loved that I would go around

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being like, I want to be productive. Yeah, I

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love that. But that honestly has always been

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in me. That was the big actual thing that's always

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been in me is that drive to just do stuff. Sure.

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So you grew up in... If I'm correct, you grew

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up in North Judson? I grew up in Phoenix. Oh,

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and that's the beginning of all of this? Yes.

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My family was from Glendale, and my dad, who

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is an adopted stepfather kind of thing, he is

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from North Judson. Got you. And when my mom got

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divorced... she was introduced to this guy and

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you know, I had to hate him and all that stuff,

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but Somehow in all that talked us into moving

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back here. Yeah, we moved back here I moved back

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to I moved from from a pretty, you know big suburban

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area to North Judson at The start of the very

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very beginning of my freshman year, you know,

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kind of like a Disney story, you know, like big

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adjustment Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know you showed

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up and you're like total different dress attire

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and style and choice of music and you know like

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to a rural community you get like they're you

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know like what are you doing city boy kind of

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thing and you know the funny thing I always loved

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about that part of my life is it was like two

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years later they were all dressing like me I

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love that at least like I was two years ago Influencer

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before being an influencer? Yeah, it wasn't me

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doing the influencing. That's just the proverbial

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wave that travels from out west, I think. I actually

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still use that method in building my company

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and a lot of different things. I watch trends

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out west. I think some other actual big members

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of this community do the same thing. Yeah, I

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think your brick street burritos and stuff like

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that. There you go There's great inspirations

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of things that I went out and hung out at in

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Huntington Beach And when they came to this town,

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I was just like, oh my god over the world Yeah,

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we can San Diego burrito Yeah, you know, yeah

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And that's kind of how I ended up starting my

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company, you know in a sense was I've seen some

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stuff that was super popular out West, you know,

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like that's how I think I sprung my company.

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Okay. You know, I started my company out of just

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passion for buffing on cars, you know, and I

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actually always knew I would eventually own my

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own company. Yeah, my 20s when I actually graduated

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from high school got married and very, very quickly

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moved back out to Phoenix. Okay. I lived out

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there for 10 years where I Yeah, that's where

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I really got heavy into the automotive industry.

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Was in Phoenix. Yeah, so I was into body work,

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but I worked at Falpo Auto Body, and then I punched

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over to Gore Track, just took a job because it

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was better money. You know, I was moving up,

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I needed more money, yada yada yada. So I took

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a factory job and was making decent money, but

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like I was working in this department just making.

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gizmos and gyros, you know, like just little

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knickknacks for different machining parts or

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whatever, but you're like punching holes and

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you're doing, you know, your typical measure

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this, cut that, move it to the side, measure

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this, cut that, move it to the side, but they

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had opened this department where they had actually

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started manufacturing these roll -up firetruck,

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the roll -up doors for firetrucks. Oh, okay,

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yeah. And they had a whole paint department and

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I literally would be working at this spot doing

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all these things, just like... Blindly putting

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these pieces together like staring over at this

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paint shop. Just just driven and it was actually

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a manager kind of cut He caught it over time,

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you know, and he was like I you you can't stop

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looking at that He's like and you're doing good.

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You know what I mean? Like I have no problems

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with what you're doing But like I can tell so

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I got a transfer over there and that's when I

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started painting and so that whole thing turned

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into this like I'm moving up the automotive scale,

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but I was also chasing money. Sure, that's fine.

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And I actually quit that because I've always

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loved just interacting with people. And I wouldn't

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work at a Denny's. No. Because I was chasing

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tips. OK. Yeah. I was like, screw this. I'm done

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with this. It was that and a mixture of I do

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not tolerate being called tardy. Okay, like the

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company handbook weird little yeah detention

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worthy Rules like and I still can't to this day,

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you know, I can't handle it and It's I've always

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told everybody even at that point in my life

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I was telling people like if you're gonna call

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me tardy like I don't want to work here But if

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you can understand that like I'm gonna be a little

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this or that in the mornings, but I'm gonna show

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up I'm going to work harder than everybody and

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I'll still work later than everybody until the

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job is done. We're going to get along really

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well. Working at a corporate, that was my first

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corporate experience. I made about a year and

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a half and I was like, okay, I'm out. I can't

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do this. I had served tables and stuff when I

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was in high school. It's such easy money to just

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relate to people really quickly and have a great

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conversation and give them an amazing opportunity

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to have a good night. That is something I enjoy

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interacting with people on. So I went to Denny's

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and I served coffee until the middle of the night,

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especially the coffee kids back then. God, the

00:16:59.139 --> 00:17:00.940
coffee kids were the greatest. They'd come and

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drink. three kids drink three pots of coffee

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and just sit there and jitter at each other like

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the vibrations of the place like that were just

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incredible. So I left there and did that but

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you know I was going through my marriage and

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stuff and ended up out in Phoenix where I got

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really heavily into the automotive industry and

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I will start paraphrasing a little bit but I

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got deep into like automotive performance and

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body work and And then I actually helped a really

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now dear friend, like, start a company called

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Tuning Group. It's in Mesa, Arizona. Actually,

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I think we discussed it just last year. You know,

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I was like the third employee, you know, like

00:17:45.579 --> 00:17:48.880
it was his dad's like roofing company that he

00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:50.779
had grown out of. And it was like, will you clean

00:17:50.779 --> 00:17:53.099
that shop out? You can take it over and start

00:17:53.099 --> 00:17:56.200
your little company. And so we started hauling,

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they hauled out all this shingles and tar and

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all this stuff. It's a one bay shop, but it was

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deep enough to possibly fit two cars and then

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a little front office. And him and this other

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guy, JD, they hauled all this stuff out and then

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we got there and we started installing lifts.

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you know and got them working and then like i

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was the office guy at the time yeah and i was

00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:32.220
bringing in the brains uh but uh you know i set

00:18:32.220 --> 00:18:34.880
them up i set it up with you know some of the

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things i picked up from these other corporate

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places like you know like quickbooks and you

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know the stuff that i do understand pretty well

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and i yeah um i set it up and i created their

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own they're like you know like i pretty much

00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:49.920
my deal was like i make like $400 a week salary,

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but I want 20 % of all of the profit that we

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move off of parts. Your labor is your labor,

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you know what I mean? So it's like if, you know,

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we were just working on cars. and it worked really

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well. It worked incredibly well. They put all

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that work into the shop and then I gutted that

00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:11.880
freaking shop and I tiled it. I've never tiled

00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:13.660
in my life at this point. I'm like, I'm tiling

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this thing. I built my own little office and

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we all just sat in this little tiny shop that

00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:25.140
was like $600 a month rent. Who cares? we can

00:19:25.140 --> 00:19:27.660
go work at 7 -Eleven a couple hours a day each

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down the road and pick up the rent and still

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be able to chill. So we did it. I mean, it turned

00:19:33.940 --> 00:19:37.680
out pretty incredible. You know, like the Volkswagen

00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:40.240
community out there, we were a specialty shop

00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:43.299
and it just turned into this, like I live, like

00:19:43.299 --> 00:19:45.279
it was like living in the fast and the furious,

00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:46.819
you know what I mean? Like by five o 'clock,

00:19:47.019 --> 00:19:49.410
there's like, you know, seven. cars, 10 cars,

00:19:49.549 --> 00:19:51.269
15 cars, 20 cars, it grew, you know what I mean?

00:19:52.049 --> 00:19:53.789
These little car meets would just happen right

00:19:53.789 --> 00:19:57.670
outside the shop and it got bad. You start showing

00:19:57.670 --> 00:20:00.089
up at four and you're not getting your jobs done,

00:20:00.529 --> 00:20:04.849
but it was awesome. He felt like this little

00:20:04.849 --> 00:20:11.170
local celebrity. And then after that, there was

00:20:11.170 --> 00:20:14.690
another company. We'd grown to a point where...

00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:17.680
We were like right there, you know what I mean?

00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:21.519
And I had come in and at that moment I felt like

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I had provided everything I could. Because I

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was just making it up as I went. We were doing

00:20:28.579 --> 00:20:32.500
well, but I knew my system was fine, but the

00:20:32.500 --> 00:20:34.640
percentages I was taking maybe in that moment,

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they weren't there. This other guy that used

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to be my client from another place was opening

00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:42.920
up this other business and he's all like, do

00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:45.539
you want to jump in on this? And I'm like, Guys,

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I think this is the best move for all of us.

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Yeah. And I jumped over that and that was like

00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:54.500
a whole different world. That was a company called

00:20:54.500 --> 00:20:58.880
BSH where we were manufacturing performance parts

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for... Audi's, Volkswagen's, and I mean, my sales

00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.180
skills were the only thing brought to the table.

00:21:07.619 --> 00:21:10.319
Like, you know, everything else was like, we're

00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:13.380
making this up again. I mean, I knew a thing

00:21:13.380 --> 00:21:16.160
or two about performance parts from the job I

00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.980
had before this company, which was another manufacturer

00:21:19.980 --> 00:21:22.240
of performance parts called Evolution Motorsports.

00:21:22.740 --> 00:21:27.380
So I mean, I know the performance industry decently.

00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:32.599
But when it came to welding and fabrication and

00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:35.000
actual product design, I was like, yeah, sure,

00:21:35.099 --> 00:21:37.759
I've seen enough of it. I can figure it out.

00:21:38.299 --> 00:21:41.140
But I know how to use QuickBooks. Yeah, there

00:21:41.140 --> 00:21:43.119
you go. Got that going for you. I can get your

00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:48.839
in -placing on point. And I'm really good at

00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:56.920
the bones. Yeah, but it was crazy. The standard

00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:01.240
performance parts that were, you know, amongst

00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:06.980
that market in the industry. Sure. Were always

00:22:06.980 --> 00:22:10.759
there. Intakes, exhausts, you know, short shifters,

00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:13.319
front -end air coolers, you know, turbo upgrades.

00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:19.700
But in the Volkswagen industry, there's a product

00:22:19.700 --> 00:22:22.119
called the catch can, which separates the oil

00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:27.319
from the crankcase. Ventilation system to keep

00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:30.759
oil -filled air recirculating back into the top

00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:34.819
of your pistons blah blah. Yeah It's it's it's

00:22:34.819 --> 00:22:37.440
more of a race car performance part, but they're

00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:39.599
it these recirculation cans have their place

00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:41.839
all over the industry Well, they really haven't

00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:44.779
been involved in the like the the aftermarket

00:22:44.779 --> 00:22:47.259
industry for voltwagons at this point But you

00:22:47.259 --> 00:22:49.480
know your other cars that were upgrading and

00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:52.579
perform, you know in performance levels had them

00:22:52.579 --> 00:22:56.529
well This guy that started this up he's like

00:22:56.529 --> 00:23:00.549
we're gonna sell catch cans to the Volkswagen

00:23:00.549 --> 00:23:04.369
kids and I'm like what is what's a catch can?

00:23:09.309 --> 00:23:11.130
And he taught me and I'm like that sounds like

00:23:11.130 --> 00:23:14.470
a cool part I believe in that Well I have a facade

00:23:14.470 --> 00:23:21.670
GTI But we sold a million dollars in catch cans

00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:24.700
Thanks in our first year of business. You did.

00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:31.640
Wow. Three man true in a manufacturing partner.

00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:36.519
That sold a million dollars in catch cans, not

00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:38.759
to mention we were making intakes in other things

00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:41.299
and you know, it was just like, you know like.

00:23:41.339 --> 00:23:43.519
And that manufacturing partner was not making

00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:45.240
us rich by any means. We used to own a lot of

00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:46.640
shit and we had a lot of fun and we conquered

00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:48.940
a lot of ground, but the business was not sounding

00:23:48.940 --> 00:23:52.160
that deal. You know, I made okay money. You know,

00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:55.480
it was good, but it was a wonderful learning

00:23:55.480 --> 00:24:00.480
experience. And I had that other Evolution Motorsports

00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:03.200
company, I had did a similar thing for them.

00:24:03.420 --> 00:24:05.619
And in that, my crowning achievement was I had

00:24:05.619 --> 00:24:08.980
built a dealer network from like probably 40,

00:24:08.980 --> 00:24:12.170
50 out to about 300 worldwide. Oh, that's significant.

00:24:12.269 --> 00:24:14.910
Yeah. Wow. It was a fun time. They're just to

00:24:14.910 --> 00:24:17.670
find people who want to sell our parts anywhere.

00:24:17.990 --> 00:24:20.630
Yeah. And I just kept talking to people on the

00:24:20.630 --> 00:24:23.109
phone and developed this, you know, this trail.

00:24:23.309 --> 00:24:25.789
I mean, I don't have to freaking... My favorite

00:24:25.789 --> 00:24:28.369
one. Oh man, what's that place with that giant

00:24:28.369 --> 00:24:33.549
tower? It's an Asian company or country. They

00:24:33.549 --> 00:24:35.650
have like a giant space needle. Guys, you gotta

00:24:35.650 --> 00:24:38.390
know. Do they? Yeah. There's an Asian country

00:24:38.390 --> 00:24:41.619
that has a giant space needle. The second -tallest

00:24:41.619 --> 00:24:43.440
building in the country. We're going to cut this.

00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:45.700
We're going to edit that, I'm sure, until I remember

00:24:45.700 --> 00:24:49.599
their name. But it was just cool, man. Actually,

00:24:50.859 --> 00:24:54.759
music, punk music. One of my favorite things

00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:58.180
in that whole industry, the drummer from Pepper.

00:25:00.180 --> 00:25:05.559
He called me. He calls in I'm at evolution motorsports.

00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:08.619
I'm selling Volkswagen parts. Okay, call their

00:25:08.619 --> 00:25:13.359
intakes and just basic stuff. Yeah And I get

00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:16.519
this phone call and it's from Hawaii and we're

00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:19.160
just talking and he's ordering his parts He's

00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:23.200
got a Volkswagen r32 which is like a pretty special

00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:28.779
edition kind of thing. Okay kids but We're going

00:25:28.779 --> 00:25:31.019
through and we're talking about his car and just

00:25:31.019 --> 00:25:33.460
bullshitting and somehow it comes up that he's

00:25:33.460 --> 00:25:35.900
in a band You know, he's probably boasting on

00:25:35.900 --> 00:25:41.500
himself But uh Eddie he's like, oh yeah, really

00:25:41.500 --> 00:25:43.240
what kind of band he's like, oh, you know, he's

00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:44.980
like he literally says It's like, you know, it's

00:25:44.980 --> 00:25:47.019
a little Scott's little surfer. It's a little

00:25:47.019 --> 00:25:54.779
punk and I'm like, oh like sublime and he's Yeah.

00:25:55.859 --> 00:25:58.240
Like, sublime. And I'm like, oh cool, what's

00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:00.160
the name of your band? And he's like, it's Pepper.

00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.400
And I'm like, never heard of you. I was like,

00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:07.039
but I'll check it out. I had no idea. Like, this

00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.700
is like in the prime, you know, when they came

00:26:09.700 --> 00:26:12.099
up with the Dirty Hot Sex song. Like, they were,

00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:15.680
that was like their big fucking shit. Like, and

00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:17.160
turns out they're actually one of my favorite

00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:20.720
goddamn bands. But yeah, I helped that guy for

00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:25.509
over like a year, like. build his car, and just

00:26:25.509 --> 00:26:28.109
talk back and forth with him. That's amazing.

00:26:28.250 --> 00:26:30.829
That's fun, right? Yeah. I get to meet some cool

00:26:30.829 --> 00:26:33.490
people in that industry. So you're out there,

00:26:33.630 --> 00:26:37.329
you're doing all this. At what point do you go

00:26:37.329 --> 00:26:41.789
from Arizona back then to Indiana? Oh, this is

00:26:41.789 --> 00:26:43.130
the kind of shit I don't want to talk about.

00:26:44.849 --> 00:26:47.309
You're on the Mark Mo Show, baby, bring it. Oh

00:26:47.309 --> 00:26:49.750
man, how deep are we going on that? As deep as

00:26:49.750 --> 00:26:53.180
you want. Yeah, so... I moved out there with

00:26:53.180 --> 00:26:59.019
my wife. And we had a baby. And everything was

00:26:59.019 --> 00:27:02.180
great. But we, you know, like we moved out to

00:27:02.180 --> 00:27:05.579
Phoenix by ourselves. We didn't have any family.

00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:09.859
And all of our friends, you know, were degenerates

00:27:09.859 --> 00:27:13.160
like us. And we weren't gonna let them watch

00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:20.619
our son. So, you know, I went four years. Pretty

00:27:20.619 --> 00:27:25.200
much and and me and my ex -wife are very Professionally

00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:29.079
driven so she had her career and I had Mike and

00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.740
we were zooming on that and we were fine with

00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:34.900
that but when it came to four years of like She

00:27:34.900 --> 00:27:37.000
worked day shift. I work in the arts. I work

00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.160
day shift where she worked night shift, you know,

00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:42.640
we raised our son from birth at that point, you

00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:44.819
know what I mean, like I would go home at five

00:27:44.819 --> 00:27:48.789
and and she would leave for work and I took care

00:27:48.789 --> 00:27:51.569
of my son from the point he was like seven weeks

00:27:51.569 --> 00:27:53.809
old, you know, whatever, you know, a month old,

00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:56.230
three months old, whatever. She's, you know,

00:27:56.329 --> 00:27:58.509
after she had them bare minimums, she had, she

00:27:58.509 --> 00:28:00.930
went back to work, you know, and we just switched

00:28:00.930 --> 00:28:05.490
off and four years of that, we kind of went through

00:28:05.490 --> 00:28:07.730
each other like we haven't been on a date. We

00:28:07.730 --> 00:28:11.829
have no family structure. My family structure

00:28:11.829 --> 00:28:15.000
is unreal. Yeah, you know like that's a whole

00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:16.299
other story. This is what I told you we could

00:28:16.299 --> 00:28:19.359
be sitting here You know, like I was adopted

00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.400
by a freaking saint who has like, you know our

00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:24.900
family Christmas party to this day is still 60

00:28:24.900 --> 00:28:27.400
some people I love it, you know, and it's deep

00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:29.160
and it just keeps running and it doesn't stop

00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:31.799
growing in there They're all there for each other.

00:28:32.099 --> 00:28:34.400
You know what I mean? And like I went from like

00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:38.660
shit Yeah, actually went from awesome. Yeah to

00:28:38.660 --> 00:28:40.980
like a death and a family change the whole time

00:28:40.980 --> 00:28:43.460
course of history for that whole family and then

00:28:43.460 --> 00:28:47.779
a shit but turning the massive shit and I was

00:28:47.779 --> 00:28:51.259
rescued from that and brought to India and like

00:28:51.259 --> 00:28:54.299
I Felt like my family was heading in that direction.

00:28:54.339 --> 00:28:57.460
Yeah, the only thing I could do is be you were

00:28:57.460 --> 00:29:00.599
moving back But Valpo is as close to the middle

00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.160
of nowhere as I'm willing to live. Yeah, I hear

00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.339
you That's how we ended up here. So you come

00:29:06.339 --> 00:29:10.400
back to Valpo. At what point does definitive

00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:13.519
details come in? I mean when you come back, is

00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:15.619
that like your first thing? You're like, I'm

00:29:15.619 --> 00:29:18.119
gonna start my own thing or not quite yet? No,

00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.619
so I was in the performance industry and I'm

00:29:20.619 --> 00:29:23.880
gonna give a shout out and a big you to the this

00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:25.640
company because i love them and i like a lot

00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:28.259
of love a lot of people there and it's i nothing

00:29:28.259 --> 00:29:31.779
to respect but you didn't hire me you're dumb

00:29:31.779 --> 00:29:36.599
uh precision turbo okay so i'm in the performance

00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:39.539
industry and uh this guy named justin this is

00:29:39.539 --> 00:29:42.119
a kind of fun story yeah this guy named justin

00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.680
that works at precision turbo is the guy that

00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:49.650
sells me turbos for when i'm at bs age And we're

00:29:49.650 --> 00:29:51.750
developing this fun relationship, you know, over

00:29:51.750 --> 00:29:54.470
the phone, bye -bye shit, yada, yada, yada, back

00:29:54.470 --> 00:29:57.569
and forth. You know, we just kind of get to know

00:29:57.569 --> 00:29:59.950
each other. He's from Valpo, holly crap, you

00:29:59.950 --> 00:30:02.029
know, like, you know, I'm from Valpo or from

00:30:02.029 --> 00:30:05.210
North Judson. You know, we just kind of vibed.

00:30:05.369 --> 00:30:07.029
And so, like, when I told him I was deciding

00:30:07.029 --> 00:30:08.730
to move back, he's like, dude, you need to come

00:30:08.730 --> 00:30:13.890
work here. And he got me the interview and I'm

00:30:13.890 --> 00:30:16.329
getting fed when you're like, you got this, you're

00:30:16.329 --> 00:30:19.589
his guy and even the guy says I'm his guy and

00:30:19.589 --> 00:30:24.130
I'm like, I'm moving back. And it was like this

00:30:24.130 --> 00:30:27.150
kind of weird interaction of like, I'm moving,

00:30:27.390 --> 00:30:29.309
you told me this is good, I'm really kind of

00:30:29.309 --> 00:30:30.930
a little nervous, I just want a confirmation

00:30:30.930 --> 00:30:33.609
like the contract. And I did have that direct

00:30:33.609 --> 00:30:35.789
conversation with the guy and somehow I spooked

00:30:35.789 --> 00:30:38.630
him. Cause then like moving day comes, I didn't

00:30:38.630 --> 00:30:41.930
hear from him. I'm driving back, I'm driving

00:30:41.930 --> 00:30:45.990
back. Me, my ex -wife, my son, a bulldog and

00:30:45.990 --> 00:30:49.849
a cat in a Nissan Murano that's way over packed.

00:30:50.630 --> 00:30:53.450
We shipped everything back in a pod and we just

00:30:53.450 --> 00:30:55.250
packed that thing to what we needed and we were

00:30:55.250 --> 00:30:58.430
driving straight through. And like I still hadn't

00:30:58.430 --> 00:31:02.920
gotten it. I spent that 27 hour drive. Oh, yeah,

00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.200
just like she went on this like where's this

00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.539
guy? Why is he calling me kind of scenario and

00:31:08.539 --> 00:31:13.279
He you know, whatever it is that I said he got

00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.380
nervous about it and he was not gonna choose

00:31:15.380 --> 00:31:17.660
me and so in that midst of driving back here

00:31:17.660 --> 00:31:20.599
I I just started calling everybody in the world

00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.440
that I knew to be like, I cannot land in Indiana

00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.779
without a job. I'm not that man. I will not be

00:31:26.779 --> 00:31:30.480
unemployed. And so I ended up, I took an oil

00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.420
change technician position at McGill Ford for

00:31:34.420 --> 00:31:37.380
$9 an hour because I needed something. You had

00:31:37.380 --> 00:31:40.420
to work, man. I do not do nothing. Right. So

00:31:40.420 --> 00:31:43.799
I took it and I did the interview and I got the

00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:47.839
job and they actually called me. Like, well,

00:31:47.980 --> 00:31:51.539
in the midst of this is a long 27 -hour drive.

00:31:52.900 --> 00:31:55.059
And they called me back, literally. I lost a

00:31:55.059 --> 00:31:58.799
job, got a job, negotiated to a better job. They

00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:02.200
reviewed my resume that my wife emailed to them

00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.880
in the midst of this drive. They seen that I

00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:06.960
had all the body shop experience, and they offered

00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:11.019
me the assistant manager position in the body

00:32:11.019 --> 00:32:14.980
shop. Oh, nice. And I came back to something

00:32:14.980 --> 00:32:16.980
that was actually kind of comforting and something

00:32:16.980 --> 00:32:19.480
that I'd always aspired to think that I was going

00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:24.140
to be really, really prominent in. Yeah. So I

00:32:24.140 --> 00:32:26.740
did that. And again, it really went from $9 an

00:32:26.740 --> 00:32:30.259
hour to $10 an hour. There you go. Climb in the

00:32:30.259 --> 00:32:38.329
ladder. In the blink of an eye. For sure. But,

00:32:38.450 --> 00:32:41.890
you know, like I actually at one point had worked

00:32:41.890 --> 00:32:45.470
up to making like out and all that stuff. I did

00:32:45.470 --> 00:32:48.289
do pretty well out there in the very beginning,

00:32:48.410 --> 00:32:50.849
especially with the Evo company. But I was making

00:32:50.849 --> 00:32:53.369
some double figure stuff out there in sales and

00:32:53.369 --> 00:32:56.130
it was really, really nice. And then chasing

00:32:56.130 --> 00:32:58.269
those small businesses, it wasn't like that,

00:32:58.690 --> 00:33:01.710
but that was way more rewarding. I did learn

00:33:01.710 --> 00:33:06.529
that. Evo was awesome. Corporate though. They

00:33:06.529 --> 00:33:09.930
were big sure, you know that that company would

00:33:09.930 --> 00:33:12.490
swing pretty hard I I actually had a really cool

00:33:12.490 --> 00:33:15.910
office and when I was like 23 years old where

00:33:15.910 --> 00:33:19.970
There was a Carrera GT just literally sitting

00:33:19.970 --> 00:33:22.829
outside my office. No way. Yeah, this company

00:33:22.829 --> 00:33:25.329
was nuts, dude They they had a it was a roller

00:33:25.329 --> 00:33:27.970
skating rink Okay that had went out of business

00:33:27.970 --> 00:33:31.390
that they bought and then like segmented it and

00:33:31.390 --> 00:33:34.670
it was like The first third of it was just this

00:33:34.670 --> 00:33:40.990
gnarly showroom with a wall of wheels that are

00:33:40.990 --> 00:33:43.750
$2 ,000, $3 ,000 a piece back in 2005, which

00:33:43.750 --> 00:33:50.230
those wheels are ridiculous now. But it was just

00:33:50.230 --> 00:33:53.930
decadence. It was pretty cool. And that place,

00:33:54.130 --> 00:33:58.779
I made a lot of it. That was fun. I shouldn't

00:33:58.779 --> 00:34:00.440
have made that much money when I was young. I

00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.680
did nothing but blow it. We've all done that.

00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:07.500
I think we've all been there, for sure. So now,

00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.679
definitive details. Yeah. Let's get to it. All

00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:17.659
right. Damn it. So actually, Beryl Ford, working

00:34:17.659 --> 00:34:21.219
my way through, you know, they were stakeholders,

00:34:21.380 --> 00:34:24.659
man. Like, that was old school. old men, like,

00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.199
this is what we make, you know what I mean? Like,

00:34:27.820 --> 00:34:30.019
and, you know, like I was, I knew different,

00:34:30.099 --> 00:34:32.179
but it's like, I also was raised in that element.

00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:34.579
So I just. grin and bared it, but I was like,

00:34:34.579 --> 00:34:37.139
I need to make more money. So like, I negotiated

00:34:37.139 --> 00:34:39.539
with my managers and I was like, can I please

00:34:39.539 --> 00:34:41.980
start coming in at 5 a .m. and I, you know, I'll

00:34:41.980 --> 00:34:45.400
sand and buff and do the body work on the bumper

00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.920
so you can get an extra two bumper jobs out a

00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.739
week. And, you know, I built my own, my own body

00:34:50.739 --> 00:34:54.699
shop, my own workstation within these body men,

00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.599
also being their assistant manager. Wow, okay.

00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.019
And I would come in and work a couple hours before

00:35:01.019 --> 00:35:04.619
them and a couple hours after them. I like saying

00:35:04.619 --> 00:35:09.900
I made $60 ,000 in one year with a $10 an hour

00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:15.780
pay. That's something. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It was

00:35:15.780 --> 00:35:21.000
a lot and I worked a lot a lot and it was actually

00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.150
there where Oddly enough because I was not allowed

00:35:24.150 --> 00:35:26.570
to be in the body shop between the hours of eight

00:35:26.570 --> 00:35:29.349
and five That was my other job. I could not touch

00:35:29.349 --> 00:35:31.329
my other project. So those little projects they

00:35:31.329 --> 00:35:34.610
allowed me to have And I work as early as I want

00:35:34.610 --> 00:35:37.030
or as late as I want but I had to be there but

00:35:37.030 --> 00:35:41.309
I got so like I Created this system that really

00:35:41.309 --> 00:35:43.949
ran that that office so efficiently that I was

00:35:43.949 --> 00:35:47.610
allowed I you know in a couple hours a day where

00:35:47.610 --> 00:35:49.849
I would just twiddle my thumbs and that turned

00:35:49.849 --> 00:35:54.269
into like researching stuff online and like really

00:35:54.269 --> 00:35:58.090
getting into the research of finishing work and

00:35:58.090 --> 00:36:00.789
buffing and polishing and and towards the end

00:36:00.789 --> 00:36:03.889
of all that I negotiated like hey we don't even

00:36:03.889 --> 00:36:08.179
offer this surface here like These people keep

00:36:08.179 --> 00:36:11.179
coming in and they keep saying well We just painted

00:36:11.179 --> 00:36:13.760
my fender because it got damaged But the rest

00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.800
of my car looks like crap because I don't take

00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:17.739
care of it But shouldn't the insurance company

00:36:17.739 --> 00:36:21.940
pay for that and we'd have to be like no Which

00:36:21.940 --> 00:36:23.860
is the last thing you ever want to tell a client?

00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:25.559
That's picking up something that they need to

00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:29.920
fall in love with right so I would be like no,

00:36:29.940 --> 00:36:33.739
but Know a guy that could actually go through

00:36:33.739 --> 00:36:36.159
and make the rest of it look really damn close

00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.860
or bring it really close And I'd be like I'll

00:36:38.860 --> 00:36:44.980
do it for 200 bucks And I would take these cars

00:36:44.980 --> 00:36:49.139
home to my garage yeah with the permission of

00:36:49.139 --> 00:36:55.699
the management at Perel Ford And I would then

00:36:55.699 --> 00:36:59.320
just pour myself into these cars and like I was

00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.420
just trying to see what I could do at the time,

00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.480
but I would spend from like Friday night till

00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.880
like two in the morning and then I'd go to sleep

00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.519
and I'd get up at like nine and then I'd be working

00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:12.760
by ten, but then I'd work until like two, three

00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.340
o 'clock in the morning again. And then I would,

00:37:15.500 --> 00:37:17.840
you know what I mean, I had family time and different

00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:21.420
things in between there, but. Would put probably

00:37:21.420 --> 00:37:24.139
30 hours into like just seeing what the hell

00:37:24.139 --> 00:37:26.480
I could do with the buffer because I mean hell

00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:30.000
I was working 40 hours for almost the same amount

00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.539
of money Yeah at the time, you know, so I was

00:37:33.539 --> 00:37:36.659
like screw it I'm making I'm doubling my income

00:37:36.659 --> 00:37:39.820
and I am really just intrigued with this and

00:37:39.820 --> 00:37:41.760
I like I said before I'd always been into the

00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.900
finishing stuff I did skip a whole entire job,

00:37:44.980 --> 00:37:49.400
by the way, from Phoenix. You're welcome. There's

00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.360
a lot of stories there, too. We can always do

00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:57.219
a part two. Right? Part two. Yeah. The pre -mix

00:37:57.219 --> 00:38:04.400
saga. But I would, you know, I'd take them home

00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:09.320
and like, the feeling that I got from the Volkswagen.

00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:14.619
This was the next time I experienced that because

00:38:14.619 --> 00:38:16.659
I would I would be like they were done at the

00:38:16.659 --> 00:38:19.659
body shop They were now my client. Okay, and

00:38:19.659 --> 00:38:21.739
so they were picking these cars up at my house

00:38:21.739 --> 00:38:25.460
And these people would show up and like I literally

00:38:25.460 --> 00:38:28.820
made this woman cry She showed up and seen the

00:38:28.820 --> 00:38:32.300
work that I had done to her car and she just

00:38:32.300 --> 00:38:37.039
lost it Like in my driveway in just tears of

00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.219
happiness and it's like that pride like I became

00:38:40.219 --> 00:38:44.059
addicted to that. I truly became addicted to

00:38:44.059 --> 00:38:50.760
that. I love providing that service for my client.

00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:57.440
And I will promise you that everybody that has

00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:01.320
ever worked for me knows that's where this started.

00:39:05.029 --> 00:39:07.869
became just enthralled with the the reaction

00:39:07.869 --> 00:39:11.449
of the people from the work that I did and The

00:39:11.449 --> 00:39:14.230
part that really is the selfish part of it though

00:39:14.230 --> 00:39:18.769
is like buffing for me. Uh -huh. It's it's almost

00:39:18.769 --> 00:39:23.730
like Hypnotic it really is like when I get to

00:39:23.730 --> 00:39:25.769
do when I get to do it and I don't get to do

00:39:25.769 --> 00:39:29.679
it very often The machine and the rotation and

00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.619
just following it and just staring deep into

00:39:32.619 --> 00:39:35.340
the surface of the paint while you're watching

00:39:35.340 --> 00:39:40.800
it erode away this thing at this this pace my

00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:47.539
mind expand I start just Dreaming up the funnest

00:39:47.539 --> 00:39:52.579
next step Yeah, we're gonna do and it is I fuck

00:39:52.579 --> 00:39:56.420
fall in love with everything around me in those

00:39:56.420 --> 00:40:01.199
moments. It's crazy the feeling I get. And the

00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:04.179
people that get to experience that with me don't

00:40:04.179 --> 00:40:08.659
know what to do with themselves. They really

00:40:08.659 --> 00:40:13.559
don't. Where were we? I felt that moment. Sorry.

00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:16.659
We're talking about definitive years. I was about

00:40:16.659 --> 00:40:21.460
to talk with you about your passion for your

00:40:21.460 --> 00:40:25.000
job. And I love that for you. makes me so happy,

00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:31.219
seriously. As a person, as a friend, as someone

00:40:31.219 --> 00:40:34.760
who's known you your entire life, that makes

00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:38.440
me so happy. Thank you. It comes through. It

00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:41.800
comes through in everything, your stories that

00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:48.159
you're telling here. And so you open your shop,

00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.019
which is here in Valparaiso, Indiana, off of

00:40:51.019 --> 00:40:55.840
Northland Drive. And you opened your shop. Now,

00:40:56.579 --> 00:41:01.719
from doing these jobs out of your own garage

00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.940
and now being there off a route there, what was

00:41:04.940 --> 00:41:08.900
one of your biggest challenges opening your business?

00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:12.559
Opening it? Mm -hmm. Just starting right out

00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:17.159
of the gate. I don't feel like there were too

00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:20.809
many challenges in the beginning. Mm -hmm. I

00:41:20.809 --> 00:41:23.090
had already started a couple of companies with

00:41:23.090 --> 00:41:28.989
buddies and known the comfort. Okay. And I am

00:41:28.989 --> 00:41:31.389
a very throw my heart into it because it's going

00:41:31.389 --> 00:41:33.769
to get me there. I throw the sails up and I just

00:41:33.769 --> 00:41:39.929
go. Yeah. It wasn't really until actually just

00:41:39.929 --> 00:41:42.630
recently, you know, 12 years in the business

00:41:42.630 --> 00:41:45.090
that I would say that like it has become a true

00:41:45.090 --> 00:41:48.710
struggle. And there's much even like that was

00:41:48.710 --> 00:41:51.760
like a struggle. You know, it's actually since

00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:56.880
we've expanded to the point of like being more

00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:02.039
than just a passionate person providing a service.

00:42:02.219 --> 00:42:05.579
Yeah. You know, now we're a company in the community

00:42:05.579 --> 00:42:09.000
and there is a different level of expectation

00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:15.340
that is different against my rebellious side.

00:42:15.980 --> 00:42:18.460
It goes against my rebellious side and what I

00:42:18.460 --> 00:42:22.460
want to offer And that's where almost any and

00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:25.239
all my like true struggles have started before

00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.860
that. Honestly, I just my sales are big and wide

00:42:28.860 --> 00:42:34.860
Yeah, they freaking soared You know, I went from

00:42:34.860 --> 00:42:40.000
job to job job and client client client and employee

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.739
and it was it's just been this just journey of

00:42:43.739 --> 00:42:47.920
like happiness and love and achievement and pride

00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:55.630
and You've done a great job. Thanks. Put that

00:42:55.630 --> 00:43:02.710
in there. My journey with this has been almost

00:43:02.710 --> 00:43:08.030
easy. As crazy as that sounds. I can't think

00:43:08.030 --> 00:43:13.760
of much negative. Can chew on and I hope I hope

00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:15.420
I look back on the time that I'm having right

00:43:15.420 --> 00:43:18.760
now in the same manner Yeah, I know don't trust

00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:20.980
me. Actually. I know I'm more calm right now

00:43:20.980 --> 00:43:23.500
Yeah, yeah, I'm more calm about the the stuff

00:43:23.500 --> 00:43:25.219
that I'm going through and the negative than

00:43:25.219 --> 00:43:29.219
I ever was back then I've definitely learned

00:43:29.219 --> 00:43:34.099
that in in business Nothing happens as fast as

00:43:34.099 --> 00:43:36.960
you think it is. It's usually double Yeah before

00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.320
it actually comes information your little ideas

00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.900
and your dreams and goals when you're constantly

00:43:42.900 --> 00:43:46.639
thinking negatively about your business, it won't

00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:49.980
succeed. That's a whole thing that we can have

00:43:49.980 --> 00:43:55.079
in part two about vibrational. I know all about

00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:58.500
that. We'll discuss that for hours. I've had

00:43:58.500 --> 00:44:01.340
negative thoughts about my business, clearly,

00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:05.079
but out of the 23 years of what I've been doing

00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:08.760
and what you've been doing, we're both really

00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:13.300
successful in what we do. We know good people

00:44:13.300 --> 00:44:17.139
and we've been doing good things for the community

00:44:17.139 --> 00:44:24.019
and everybody else so Now when I went online

00:44:24.019 --> 00:44:29.400
Did my research as I should as a good host? Looking

00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.219
at all the surfaces that you provide right so

00:44:32.219 --> 00:44:35.699
interior detailing exterior detailing paint corrections

00:44:35.699 --> 00:44:38.480
ceramic coating now That was something I found

00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:41.139
interesting because I saw that you're a ceramic

00:44:41.139 --> 00:44:47.300
pro elite dealer. As someone who... I grew up

00:44:47.300 --> 00:44:52.019
in a house where my dad did body work, so I often

00:44:52.019 --> 00:44:54.699
appreciated a lot of the work and what you do.

00:44:55.780 --> 00:44:58.539
But this was something new to me, or this terminology

00:44:58.539 --> 00:45:02.099
was new, so what does that mean exactly? So,

00:45:02.139 --> 00:45:09.909
elite dealer was a status in... it was a status

00:45:09.909 --> 00:45:13.889
improvement that was provided and or acknowledged

00:45:13.889 --> 00:45:16.550
towards dealers around the world from Ceramic

00:45:16.550 --> 00:45:22.150
Pro. A couple years back, there's roughly about

00:45:22.150 --> 00:45:27.349
3 ,000 Ceramic Pro dealers worldwide and we were

00:45:27.349 --> 00:45:32.940
in the top 200, definitely towards the top. of

00:45:32.940 --> 00:45:38.820
that 200 as in not the best. But the top 200,

00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.400
I was very, very proud of that to be inducted

00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:47.440
into the Elite Dealer Service, which they flew

00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:51.739
me out to San Diego and they put me through this

00:45:51.739 --> 00:45:58.480
three day seminar and training and then offered

00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:02.079
like, We got the first year of this new product

00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:07.840
called Saran Pro Ion to offer it before the regular

00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:10.119
dealer's connection and purchase it and stuff

00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.960
like that. It was just the next step forward.

00:46:13.139 --> 00:46:20.179
It was, in a sense, an induction process to stepping

00:46:20.179 --> 00:46:23.440
to the next level. And it's based off of performance

00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:28.650
and purchasing, obviously. Which again, that's

00:46:28.650 --> 00:46:31.230
pretty amazing. You know like this small town

00:46:31.230 --> 00:46:34.809
in Indiana like we have 3 ,000 dealers of the

00:46:34.809 --> 00:46:39.070
largest ceramic coating provider in America We

00:46:39.070 --> 00:46:41.190
were in the top 200. I thought that was pretty

00:46:41.190 --> 00:46:45.530
cool. That's amazing. That's really cool Can

00:46:45.530 --> 00:46:48.809
you think of a job or a couple of jobs? That

00:46:48.809 --> 00:46:51.210
you were just so proud of or maybe a car that

00:46:51.210 --> 00:46:54.480
you worked on that was just awesome Going into

00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:59.760
them last week. Well, yeah. So I am a jack of

00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.420
all trades in the buffing, polishing, and ceramic

00:47:02.420 --> 00:47:06.159
coating, and the detailing aspect actually spread

00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.719
into just growth in the company, which I took

00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:12.500
on tint, and then also taking on wrapping cars.

00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:18.099
The whole wrapping cars thing just really leads

00:47:18.099 --> 00:47:22.139
back to my passions of painting cars, which I'm

00:47:22.139 --> 00:47:24.710
actually... The biggest thing that I left out

00:47:24.710 --> 00:47:28.769
earlier is like, I started to become allergic

00:47:28.769 --> 00:47:32.070
to being in a body shop. So as I was buffing

00:47:32.070 --> 00:47:35.230
these cars on the side and doing that more and

00:47:35.230 --> 00:47:39.510
more, I actually, I was up to like 260 pounds,

00:47:39.570 --> 00:47:43.150
like super unhealthy, like headaches all the

00:47:43.150 --> 00:47:45.670
time, just terrible. Going to the doctor every

00:47:45.670 --> 00:47:48.070
like month or two, like trying to figure this

00:47:48.070 --> 00:47:51.610
out. And turns out I have this isocyanate allergy,

00:47:51.769 --> 00:47:54.119
which like when you're surrounded by the solvents

00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:56.099
that are in a body shop and the aluminum oxide

00:47:56.099 --> 00:47:58.500
and stuff like that like it really just it messes

00:47:58.500 --> 00:48:03.880
up your system. I had in the start of my company

00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:06.059
leaving there that's when we kind of discovered

00:48:06.059 --> 00:48:08.099
this but being away from the body shop I ended

00:48:08.099 --> 00:48:12.380
up like very quickly like I dropped like it was

00:48:12.380 --> 00:48:15.980
I dropped a hundred pounds in six months. Oh

00:48:15.980 --> 00:48:18.500
I went down to 160 but it wasn't like a scrum

00:48:18.500 --> 00:48:23.579
it was like a I'm a kid again. Oh yeah, it was

00:48:23.579 --> 00:48:26.360
a very fun time in my life, running circles around,

00:48:26.420 --> 00:48:28.539
you know, 20 -something year olds when I was,

00:48:28.539 --> 00:48:31.119
you know, 10, 15 years younger, older than them,

00:48:33.099 --> 00:48:36.340
just laying it on the world. I forget where they

00:48:36.340 --> 00:48:38.969
were. No, that's okay. No, I was just talking

00:48:38.969 --> 00:48:41.070
about like some jobs or some cars you really

00:48:41.070 --> 00:48:43.429
love to work on. So, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the

00:48:43.429 --> 00:48:46.230
favorite is cars. The reason I got into that

00:48:46.230 --> 00:48:49.250
was because like, I mean, that's such a loaded

00:48:49.250 --> 00:48:51.690
question for me. Like we can talk about, you

00:48:51.690 --> 00:48:54.269
know, like I could probably name off 10 cars,

00:48:54.710 --> 00:48:57.369
you know, in the buffing polishing realm, you

00:48:57.369 --> 00:48:59.590
know, for different reasons. The funny thing

00:48:59.590 --> 00:49:02.389
I've learned actually is a lot of these projects,

00:49:03.070 --> 00:49:05.550
I have my own personal, I guess, but like...

00:49:05.739 --> 00:49:08.639
Most of my favorites revolve around the moments

00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:12.079
and the fun, amazing times that I had with the

00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.219
people that I'm doing these projects with and

00:49:15.219 --> 00:49:18.579
that car. You know, like me and Justin Ewing,

00:49:19.059 --> 00:49:21.440
the guy that, my buddy that was like, hey man,

00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.139
I just rented a shop. You want to go buff cars

00:49:24.139 --> 00:49:27.119
and drink a couple beers after work? And we'd

00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:29.159
go there and like, we limited ourselves to four

00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.659
beers and five hours were the time maximum that

00:49:32.659 --> 00:49:34.199
we were going to be there. You know what I mean?

00:49:35.309 --> 00:49:38.610
we would buff X amount of X amount of car and

00:49:38.610 --> 00:49:41.750
that's how we started literally we started as

00:49:41.750 --> 00:49:46.170
a company after it left my garage yeah to you

00:49:46.170 --> 00:49:53.329
know like the the best decon we ever got out

00:49:53.329 --> 00:49:56.289
of a wash bay was after John who's my tenor now

00:49:56.289 --> 00:49:58.550
been with the company on and off for 10 years

00:49:58.550 --> 00:50:05.699
yeah He you know like green green thumb The green

00:50:05.699 --> 00:50:09.880
sorry green thumb like sorry Anyways, you know

00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:13.000
not training the guy like it was just this you

00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.219
know you're here verbally you said you're verbally

00:50:15.219 --> 00:50:18.300
explaining it you're Demonstrating it and like

00:50:18.300 --> 00:50:20.460
just how to go through the steps of deconing

00:50:20.460 --> 00:50:24.619
a car. Yeah, finally. I'm just like You're not

00:50:24.619 --> 00:50:26.719
allowed to come back to work until you come back

00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:30.579
with a list in order the decon process and how

00:50:30.579 --> 00:50:33.000
to do it yeah and he went home and he typed it

00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:35.000
out he brought it in the next day and that's

00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.860
son of a bitch like he the i watched this kid

00:50:37.860 --> 00:50:41.840
like just make the shiniest car wash ever happen

00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.239
ever you know what i mean right in front of my

00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:46.699
eyes you know like that moment was fan freaking

00:50:46.699 --> 00:50:50.340
fantastic um I'm going to tell one that shouldn't

00:50:50.340 --> 00:50:54.360
be listed on the air. But one of my best clients

00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:58.079
ever, one of my biggest clients ever, he owns

00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:00.699
Sheck Industries, which is a multi -million dollar

00:51:00.699 --> 00:51:03.079
corporation. I've done a few things for him.

00:51:03.300 --> 00:51:05.400
He gives me his own personal wrangler to do.

00:51:05.940 --> 00:51:07.960
My company is shit in the fucking bed because

00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.280
they can't get nothing done and we fall way behind.

00:51:11.500 --> 00:51:14.179
And this is when I very, very, very first started

00:51:14.179 --> 00:51:17.239
smoking weed again as an adult. Tell him the

00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:19.960
story. He can cut it, but I want to hear it.

00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:27.639
It was Blue Dream. Yeah. Blue Dream. And I was

00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.400
at work on a Saturday by myself. It's a Wrangler,

00:51:31.460 --> 00:51:33.079
which Wranglers need to come with an asshole

00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:36.639
tax. Because it's so hard to buff, because everything

00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:39.880
is buff. Oh yeah. You're just, you have this

00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:41.960
buffing a hundred million tiny little spots.

00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:44.179
It sucks. They're worse than everything. And

00:51:44.179 --> 00:51:47.420
he is the... It has to be flawless. You can't

00:51:47.420 --> 00:51:50.599
mess it up. I'm not gonna mess it. Stress, stress,

00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:52.800
stress, stress, stress. Smoke a joint of Blue

00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:54.880
Dream and I never smoke when I work and I still

00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:58.039
don't. I really don't smoke when I'm working.

00:51:59.500 --> 00:52:02.699
But I was at the shop, stressed the hell out.

00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.599
I smoked this joint and I swear to God, two and

00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:10.809
a half hours go by and that car is... done pristine

00:52:10.809 --> 00:52:14.530
done yeah done done done done done and i'm standing

00:52:14.530 --> 00:52:16.610
there staring i'm like calling people like dude

00:52:16.610 --> 00:52:18.230
i just finished a wrangler in two and a half

00:52:18.230 --> 00:52:20.070
hours i mean we're talking there isn't a freaking

00:52:20.070 --> 00:52:23.590
hairline scratch on the whole car period decon

00:52:23.590 --> 00:52:25.090
and i'm like i don't even know how i got here

00:52:25.090 --> 00:52:27.170
you need to come down like i'm calling my buddy

00:52:27.170 --> 00:52:29.630
adjust i'm like look at this thing shag's gonna

00:52:29.630 --> 00:52:34.130
lose his mind dude that that that job led to

00:52:34.130 --> 00:52:36.449
thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars

00:52:36.449 --> 00:52:40.699
for the projects yeah And I somehow just that

00:52:40.699 --> 00:52:43.420
crap out like out of passion and like two hours

00:52:43.420 --> 00:52:46.260
like that stuff would take me 10 hours, you know

00:52:46.260 --> 00:52:48.400
Sure, but you know, that's one of my favorite

00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:57.820
stories. I love that But I'm sorry, yeah, I got

00:52:57.820 --> 00:53:01.760
I got like a trove of all these these Employees

00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:03.840
that have touched my heart over the years that

00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:06.239
I got to do these things with you know, yeah

00:53:06.409 --> 00:53:15.030
But really recently, I just did a 2020 C63S AMG.

00:53:15.670 --> 00:53:18.510
The client came in and he pretty much started

00:53:18.510 --> 00:53:22.289
pitching my one of my dream. appearances that

00:53:22.289 --> 00:53:25.050
you would wrap a car with or paint a car with

00:53:25.050 --> 00:53:27.409
and it was like it's all gloss up over the top

00:53:27.409 --> 00:53:30.309
and all all satin on the on the base of the car

00:53:30.309 --> 00:53:32.750
and then all the trim pieces are gloss black

00:53:32.750 --> 00:53:34.989
and yeah you know and then a few little tasteful

00:53:34.989 --> 00:53:36.929
carbon fiber pieces and I'm like you mean like

00:53:36.929 --> 00:53:41.110
this and I'm like exactly and I'm like this is

00:53:41.110 --> 00:53:46.309
gonna be my favorite job ever took me seven weeks

00:53:46.309 --> 00:53:51.949
to do this job it was a total nightmare I ordered

00:53:51.949 --> 00:53:53.849
the material, or I actually had the material

00:53:53.849 --> 00:53:56.190
in stock that I sold them. I got three quarters

00:53:56.190 --> 00:53:58.050
of the way through the car. I made a bad cut.

00:53:58.510 --> 00:54:01.530
Ordered more material. More material shows up.

00:54:01.829 --> 00:54:04.010
Different looking material. I call in, they're

00:54:04.010 --> 00:54:05.889
like, oh yeah, we don't make that material anymore.

00:54:06.550 --> 00:54:09.849
So I had to tear all that off, get the new material,

00:54:10.750 --> 00:54:14.869
start over. Nightmare. Just nightmare. Turned

00:54:14.869 --> 00:54:17.590
into like, I lost a plotter within that time.

00:54:17.690 --> 00:54:21.130
So when the material showed up, found out that

00:54:21.130 --> 00:54:23.449
a mouse had ate the internals on my plotter,

00:54:23.550 --> 00:54:26.530
which is a $7 ,000 machine. That thing kicks

00:54:26.530 --> 00:54:30.349
the bed. I have to then order a plotter, which

00:54:30.349 --> 00:54:33.030
takes a week, then car sits a week, material

00:54:33.030 --> 00:54:35.690
sitting a week, customers getting pissed, you

00:54:35.690 --> 00:54:39.539
know. We were in all it's spring, you know, we're

00:54:39.539 --> 00:54:42.579
just coming off a winner We've got a you know,

00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.679
really keep our production up hour after hour,

00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:47.880
you know, we're a small company We're we're such

00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:51.940
a small company and like we we sacrifice everything

00:54:51.940 --> 00:54:55.139
in the winter to maintain our employees So that

00:54:55.139 --> 00:54:57.440
we can get through spring. Yeah, it's how we

00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:01.159
do it and there's a lot of companies like that

00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.679
out there that have to do that and You have to

00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:07.920
maintain you can't you can't stop doing other

00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:09.980
jobs that are scheduled so that you can get this

00:55:09.980 --> 00:55:15.039
done, right? I worked for in a two -week span

00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:18.099
There were four different days that I worked

00:55:18.099 --> 00:55:23.119
32 hour shifts Really I had to go in I had to

00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:25.960
start working on that car Yeah, six o 'clock

00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:28.579
at night after everybody else was done with their

00:55:28.579 --> 00:55:31.880
jobs in the shop so that I can get that project

00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:35.579
done And that was within the last month. And

00:55:35.579 --> 00:55:37.239
that was within the last month, wow. That was

00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:41.460
within the last month. Do you find most of your

00:55:41.460 --> 00:55:46.199
customers come from northwest Indiana? Or do

00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:48.099
you find that they come from outside the region?

00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:52.260
Most are definitely within the region, 100%.

00:55:52.260 --> 00:55:56.460
But I've got some really fun clients that have...

00:55:56.619 --> 00:56:00.079
Come from the middle like upper echelons of Michigan

00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:02.539
because they saw our website or like downtown,

00:56:02.539 --> 00:56:07.400
Chicago There's a guy named Sunil Mara That lives

00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:09.920
on Lakeshore Drive. That was one of my very early

00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:13.300
adopter clients and he owns a couple like steak

00:56:13.300 --> 00:56:16.400
houses and an orthodontist office in Chicago

00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:19.500
but then he also like has some crazy stuff going

00:56:19.500 --> 00:56:21.960
on the UK and he's got like a crazy villa full

00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:25.920
of all these like amazing like he owns like a

00:56:25.769 --> 00:56:28.510
Golf like Porsche race car like a legitimate.

00:56:28.650 --> 00:56:32.989
Yeah real golf race car In his collection kind

00:56:32.989 --> 00:56:35.289
of thing, you know, that's when I was early on

00:56:35.289 --> 00:56:38.130
He's one of my first clients where he he hit

00:56:38.130 --> 00:56:41.130
he had had all his cars ceramic coated in the

00:56:41.130 --> 00:56:44.630
UK By the g -technique dealer and he started

00:56:44.630 --> 00:56:46.469
asking them like well, I mentioned, you know,

00:56:46.510 --> 00:56:48.570
my cars in Chicago How do I get them done and

00:56:48.570 --> 00:56:52.949
some dude in the UK? had seen my stuff on the

00:56:52.949 --> 00:56:55.469
internet and told this guy that lives in downtown

00:56:55.469 --> 00:56:58.789
Chicago that I look like I know what I'm doing

00:56:58.789 --> 00:57:02.989
and that guy's been a client of mine for 10 years

00:57:02.989 --> 00:57:06.570
now. How cool is that? And you know he brings

00:57:06.570 --> 00:57:09.750
like he actually he actually bought his wife

00:57:09.750 --> 00:57:13.929
a Porsche Cayenne for her birthday and I was

00:57:13.929 --> 00:57:20.940
the first ever detailer allowed to go into Porsche

00:57:20.940 --> 00:57:25.179
Exchange to actually do my work on their car

00:57:25.179 --> 00:57:27.900
in their shop because he had that much pull with

00:57:27.900 --> 00:57:30.400
those people. And I went up there and I buffed

00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:32.719
and I polished and I ceramic coated that car

00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:36.360
in front of all their technicians at the Porsche

00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:39.099
Exchange in Chicago because that guy needed me

00:57:39.099 --> 00:57:41.840
to do it so that they can wrap a bow on it before

00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:45.530
it got any miles on it. Wow, that's awesome.

00:57:45.730 --> 00:57:47.469
Yeah, you know that was just from some weird

00:57:47.469 --> 00:57:50.210
-ass referral from the UK That's that guy that's

00:57:50.210 --> 00:57:52.030
been calling the shop. He's actually got a BMW

00:57:52.030 --> 00:57:55.630
wants me to do again recently you're coming up

00:57:55.630 --> 00:57:59.809
Yeah I do have to give a shout out actually as

00:57:59.809 --> 00:58:05.690
far as that stuff Abbott farms they have Lou

00:58:05.690 --> 00:58:11.030
Abbott was the dad Glenn and Jerry are the brothers

00:58:11.030 --> 00:58:17.230
or the sons But they were like, Glenn was literally

00:58:17.230 --> 00:58:21.389
my first client. As a real client. And I had

00:58:21.389 --> 00:58:23.469
done a couple car washes for Lou. And Lou has

00:58:23.469 --> 00:58:28.690
a collection of T -Birds that he left to his

00:58:28.690 --> 00:58:33.110
sons when he passed. And after he passed, Glenn

00:58:33.110 --> 00:58:36.409
came to me and asked me to start working on them

00:58:36.409 --> 00:58:40.610
for him. And the crowning jewel was the 50. the

00:58:40.610 --> 00:58:45.650
56 um and it was the first like real like i you

00:58:45.650 --> 00:58:47.210
know i always said to people i want to i want

00:58:47.210 --> 00:58:48.909
a detail shop that doesn't do anything for less

00:58:48.909 --> 00:58:51.730
than 650 and people like that doesn't exist you're

00:58:51.730 --> 00:58:55.170
crazy now i do like three thousand dollar you

00:58:55.170 --> 00:58:59.630
know projects um but that was my first thousand

00:58:59.630 --> 00:59:02.409
dollar job and man i worked on that thing for

00:59:02.409 --> 00:59:06.679
like a month I went over every nut and bull.

00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:08.519
I was scrubbing that thing with toothbrushes

00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:10.880
and polishing nuts and screws and pulling screws

00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:12.920
out of the dash. I mean, it was a 56. There were

00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:16.679
so many little intricate art deco shit, dude.

00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:19.380
It's so amazing. And I polished that thing for

00:59:19.380 --> 00:59:21.280
days and days and days and days and days and

00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.400
days and days and days. And he showed up and

00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:27.369
just, you know, like since then. Dude, that man,

00:59:27.409 --> 00:59:30.869
he does amazing work with me every winter, and

00:59:30.869 --> 00:59:32.889
he comes and supports my company, and he tells

00:59:32.889 --> 00:59:37.010
so many people about us. I've done so much of

00:59:37.010 --> 00:59:39.989
their collection, and they keep coming back and

00:59:39.989 --> 00:59:45.650
trusting me. That 56T bird was something else,

00:59:45.750 --> 00:59:47.630
too. I don't know that I've ever done a more

00:59:47.630 --> 00:59:54.750
complete, intricate detail in my life. Was that

00:59:54.750 --> 00:59:58.030
car? Yeah, that was on my website and his brother's

00:59:58.030 --> 01:00:03.130
is the next one. There's an orange 75 It's a

01:00:03.130 --> 01:00:07.510
74 Corvette, but it's a resto mod I don't know

01:00:07.510 --> 01:00:09.110
what he has in it. I don't know if he's gonna

01:00:09.110 --> 01:00:10.769
be mad at you saying this but I bet you there's

01:00:10.769 --> 01:00:14.389
$300 ,000 in this freaking amazing piece of work.

01:00:14.489 --> 01:00:17.909
It's a full tube chassis like where he set a

01:00:17.909 --> 01:00:21.510
74 body on it and then like the whole interior

01:00:21.510 --> 01:00:25.050
i mean we're talking italian leather like custom

01:00:25.050 --> 01:00:29.630
hand built dash like the suspension alone on

01:00:29.630 --> 01:00:31.570
this thing i mean it's just such a beautiful

01:00:31.570 --> 01:00:36.090
build um and It actually was it was actually

01:00:36.090 --> 01:00:38.389
all the bodywork and paint was done down at Z

01:00:38.389 --> 01:00:42.670
rods and in Knox And I mean you these these that's

01:00:42.670 --> 01:00:44.989
a guy I went to high school with Zach Ingram

01:00:44.989 --> 01:00:47.690
dude. That guy's created a Amazing corporation

01:00:47.690 --> 01:00:50.010
out there, right? But like I'm telling you right

01:00:50.010 --> 01:00:54.449
now the the lines on that 75 are crisper than

01:00:54.449 --> 01:00:59.710
this piece of glass like it's ridiculous like

01:00:59.980 --> 01:01:02.599
It's such a beautiful piece, and I've actually

01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.579
got to do that twice now. Once when it was first

01:01:05.579 --> 01:01:07.820
done, and then he took it to Xerox and got redone

01:01:07.820 --> 01:01:10.639
and totally re -established, and you can run

01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:14.159
it back just this last year. That's been an amazing

01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:17.079
piece to have in my life, too. I keep going,

01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:21.280
dude. That's amazing, and that's why I'm so glad

01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:23.840
we finally got together, because I know that

01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:27.139
you are very passionate about your business and

01:01:27.139 --> 01:01:31.179
about cars, and it's... It's so interesting to

01:01:31.179 --> 01:01:34.320
hear you talk about it. As I said, I grew up

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in a family where my dad was a body guy, so I

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love being able to sit here and talk to you about

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this. And we're going to do this again. There

01:01:42.980 --> 01:01:45.739
will be a part two, maybe a part three. I hope

01:01:45.739 --> 01:01:48.840
everybody enjoys it. I mean, we still have music

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to talk about. We still have like, top shelf

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liquor, all these things that when Justin and

01:01:53.940 --> 01:01:59.780
I would... But Justin, we can do whatever we

01:01:59.780 --> 01:02:02.280
want. It is my show. We can do whatever the hell

01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:06.739
we want. But as we kind of close out what I will

01:02:06.739 --> 01:02:10.900
call part one of this journey with Justin Anderson,

01:02:12.219 --> 01:02:15.579
give, I guess, any final props to your business.

01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:18.280
Of course, how people can get in touch with you,

01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:20.460
where they can see your work online, social media,

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all that kind of good stuff. And then, of course,

01:02:23.019 --> 01:02:25.639
any shout outs they want to give here. Oh, man.

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You ever hear the end of the sublime album where

01:02:28.980 --> 01:02:38.079
he's just like We're gonna do this put on some

01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:49.159
rivers of Babylon So Yeah, we're you know, we're

01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:52.340
actually right on the corner 38 highway to in

01:02:52.340 --> 01:02:54.920
between Jiffy Lube and USA muffler. What up?

01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:59.059
What up? Right actually everybody knows this

01:02:59.059 --> 01:03:00.880
right by parlor doughnuts, I mean, let's face

01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:02.719
it. Let's say parlor doughnuts. They're like

01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:08.659
got you got you we know you're at Yeah, the phone

01:03:08.659 --> 01:03:14.019
number is 219 -309 -7089 I think We're sometimes

01:03:14.019 --> 01:03:17.380
open from seven to five, but mostly from nine

01:03:17.380 --> 01:03:22.519
to five. Yeah Understand yeah, it says maybe

01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:34.639
I don't know definitive details. I don't know

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like Google Yeah, Facebook. We got some Instagram.

01:03:38.420 --> 01:03:41.739
We kind of suck at both about like things. Oh,

01:03:41.739 --> 01:03:43.980
I got shout outs I got shout outs for days. I

01:03:43.980 --> 01:03:48.700
mean it's all the way back to Burel I got Grieger's.

01:03:48.700 --> 01:03:51.619
We'd skip so much, man. We'd skip so much. I

01:03:51.619 --> 01:03:55.099
used to grind through nasty cars for $100 for

01:03:55.099 --> 01:04:01.000
10 years. But anyways, I'm going to give a big

01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.739
shout out to my main girl Alicia right here from

01:04:04.739 --> 01:04:09.739
Revolution. Revolution Valbrezo 2 .0. And we'll

01:04:09.739 --> 01:04:12.420
be speaking with Alicia soon as well. Yeah, so

01:04:12.420 --> 01:04:16.500
she's actually one of my oldest friends. We've

01:04:16.500 --> 01:04:19.119
been kicking it since we were 14. She's another

01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:25.480
business owner here in Valparaiso. Man, this

01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:27.519
got me in trouble in the magazine article when

01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:29.260
I didn't write anything. I didn't say nothing

01:04:29.260 --> 01:04:33.340
about greeters, and they were like... Now I'm

01:04:33.340 --> 01:04:36.420
like, you know, fuck this guy. You know what?

01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:38.900
I'll give him the mic, unless you laugh. Do you

01:04:38.900 --> 01:04:48.559
want me to do it? How about any of your crew?

01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:54.239
Oh, dude. All of them. I honestly, good or bad.

01:04:54.780 --> 01:04:57.739
Good or bad, this ain't here without Brett, John,

01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:03.059
Turner West. Oh, Turner. Oh, Turner West. I love

01:05:03.059 --> 01:05:06.559
Turner. You're such a good boy. Serato. Throwing

01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:12.699
one out to Serato. Oh my god, did I say Justin

01:05:12.699 --> 01:05:16.099
Ewing like six times yet? Maybe not, yeah, it's

01:05:16.099 --> 01:05:20.199
over under. God damn that man, he's amazing.

01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:28.000
Scott Yost out in Pennsylvania. I mean, fucking

01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:31.599
Kate. Jesus fucking Christ, Kate. Oh, of course,

01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:34.840
Kate. We're gonna talk about Kate. Oh my god.

01:05:34.860 --> 01:05:37.219
Me too. Yeah, dude, I'm so proud of her. I love

01:05:37.219 --> 01:05:39.780
her. She's starting her own company. Alright,

01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:42.900
wow. She is, yeah. My main apprentice, she's

01:05:42.900 --> 01:05:44.860
starting her own company and I can't be more

01:05:44.860 --> 01:05:48.059
supportive. She's gonna take a big chunk of business

01:05:48.059 --> 01:05:51.659
away from me and I can't wait to see it. She's

01:05:51.659 --> 01:05:55.519
gonna take a passion piece. There it is. Yeah,

01:05:55.900 --> 01:05:57.960
all that ultra high end stuff, I pour this into

01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:02.420
her, she knows that stuff. She's gonna kill it.

01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:05.920
Her company's gonna be named Details by Garla.

01:06:06.720 --> 01:06:09.920
Really? No way. We're rolling out them DDs. I

01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:16.619
love it. I love it. Gabe and Angelica. Yeah.

01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:25.179
They deserve an honor. Jared. You know who you

01:06:25.179 --> 01:06:32.530
are. Yeah. Joe. Johnny. Fucking Johnny. Johnny's

01:06:32.530 --> 01:06:34.849
been there 10 years, man. 10 years, yeah. He's

01:06:34.849 --> 01:06:42.690
a good man. He taught me a lot. Maybe your better

01:06:42.690 --> 01:06:46.869
half, perhaps. This one? Yeah, this one over

01:06:46.869 --> 01:06:50.130
here. This one over here. She's brand new. She's

01:06:50.130 --> 01:06:53.050
coming in. She just started. Yeah, Amanda. Amanda's

01:06:53.050 --> 01:06:54.550
actually who you're going to talk to if you call

01:06:54.550 --> 01:06:59.289
in now. She's the new front runner. Yep. Good

01:06:59.289 --> 01:07:02.280
job. You're doing great, Jess. Say hi. Yeah?

01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:04.900
I know. I've been looking for somebody. I need

01:07:04.900 --> 01:07:07.519
somebody I can trust in that spot. It's my favorite

01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:09.980
spot. You're getting it. 20 years of customer

01:07:09.980 --> 01:07:16.559
service. That's awesome. Might as well. Casey.

01:07:17.300 --> 01:07:19.800
Everybody at the shop. Everybody. I know she

01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:24.260
has. Yeah, of course, everybody has to shop.

01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:29.719
We're still in the nostalgic stages. We're still

01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:31.599
reminiscing. I've been through like 50 of these

01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:38.679
sumbitches. There's Kyle. Kyle was the stick.

01:07:39.059 --> 01:07:40.820
Kyle broke the first employee to break my heart,

01:07:41.179 --> 01:07:45.539
man. Kyle? Yeah, man. He got all Bernie Sanders

01:07:45.539 --> 01:07:53.619
on me and left and made me so sad. Turn the internet

01:07:53.619 --> 01:07:57.820
against me. Because I was 10 .99ing him. To save

01:07:57.820 --> 01:08:00.679
him money and taxes. Wow. I know, right? It's

01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:08.059
terrible. How you like me now, Kyle? Who punched

01:08:08.059 --> 01:08:11.699
some fucking drywall somewhere else, Kyle? I

01:08:11.699 --> 01:08:14.099
don't know. Jesus, how many of them are there?

01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:16.140
There's so many! You know how many employees

01:08:16.140 --> 01:08:18.539
I don't know their names anymore? Ever? Yeah.

01:08:19.649 --> 01:08:23.449
I've been there. I've had employees that I probably

01:08:23.449 --> 01:08:31.109
paid at least 100 hours to poop. A lot of thinking

01:08:31.109 --> 01:08:34.010
in the bathroom. Yeah, if I've had those moments.

01:08:34.590 --> 01:08:36.670
We're going to say the same thing. They do say

01:08:36.670 --> 01:08:40.670
that in a normal 365 days of working. You get

01:08:40.670 --> 01:08:43.430
paid about 12 days for pooping. For pooping,

01:08:43.649 --> 01:08:47.329
yeah. It's a terrible time job. But I typically

01:08:47.329 --> 01:08:50.789
like to poop before I work because I'm at work

01:08:50.789 --> 01:08:53.989
and I cannot poop while I'm working. Let's not

01:08:53.989 --> 01:08:59.729
turn this into a conversation. Baby, I'm a big

01:08:59.729 --> 01:09:02.750
little whale. Turner taught me what a weight

01:09:02.750 --> 01:09:06.250
blanket is. That's the kind of kid that guy is.

01:09:06.430 --> 01:09:12.039
I love that guy. Oh, Turner. Well Justin, this

01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:14.159
has been awesome dude. I appreciate it. We've

01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:17.199
waiting a long time to do this and I know we

01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:20.640
got a lot to cover still and I'm looking forward

01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:24.300
to it brother. I appreciate coming on. Defendive

01:09:24.300 --> 01:09:27.020
details, check them out here in Valparaiso, Indiana

01:09:27.020 --> 01:09:30.420
and have Justin and the crew trick out your ride.

01:09:30.979 --> 01:09:34.920
And don't forget the last Wednesday of every

01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:39.720
month until October car show. Kermit. It's not

01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:45.000
a show. We don't judge anybody. Kermit. Awesome.

01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:48.000
Well, thank you. And this has been great. We've

01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:51.560
had Justin, Amanda, Alicia. It's been a blast.

01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:55.319
And we'll do this again. Thanks a lot, man. Thank

01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:59.100
you. Sounds groovy. Until next time. Until next

01:09:59.100 --> 01:09:59.300
time.