00:00:08:12 - 00:00:32:32 Unknown And, you know, bam bam bam bam bam bam. Hey. Welcome back to talk it Out. My name is Maddy Tokes. How are you today? What are you toking on? I have once again forgot to start my day out before and strategically blow out the smoke as I start the episode. I've been trying to do that the past like three episodes and I am not good at timing. 00:00:32:33 - 00:00:52:33 Unknown Sorry, I have time blindness. I have kush clock. I am chronic Kush clock if you will. Za Kush clock if you won't. And I just want to let you know I wish I had started. Whatever. What are you talking on today? Today I am talking on what I believe is from. Oh, here we go again. I'll tell you in a second, okay? 00:00:52:38 - 00:01:13:09 Unknown What I'm talking on is who? Oh, very tasty. Actually, when I'm talking on today is the Hive by East Side Alchemy. And it's delicious. And I dare any of you to blow out the smoke on a white and not cough. Actually, it's. It's really the reason it's not me. Like my asthmatic ass is. So you couldn't do it part on. 00:01:13:18 - 00:01:30:02 Unknown Okay, sip of water and then we get into it. That was the Hive by Eastside Alchemy. Did I say that? Here we go. I'm already. I'm already not sure. Fantastico. All right, so what are we talking about today? Have we all? We've all seen the tick tock. It's not super new, but it's the one where it's the pile of clothes on the chair. 00:01:30:11 - 00:01:46:07 Unknown And homie is like turning off the light. And when he turns off the light, it turns into like a creature. And then he turns on the light, turns back into a pile of clothes. We've all done that, right? We've all turned off the lights, seen a pile of clothes, seen the jacket hanging up. And we're like, who are you? 00:01:46:09 - 00:02:10:41 Unknown You know? So today we we are deep diving on shadow people. Have we talked about shadow people before? Yes. Briefly in the I believe, lucid dreaming and liminal space. We've like touched on them but it seems to be trending a lot on TikTok. And I don't know if that's just me and what I'm seeing. And because my eye, my phone is hearing that I'm having nightmares every night, hey, not a big deal. 00:02:10:47 - 00:02:29:08 Unknown They're not scary. Like, don't feel bad for me, okay? Hold on. Pause. I am having nightmares every night. But it is. It's I'm having unusual dreams. It's a side effect of this medication I'm taking, which I love this medication, so I'm not going to stop taking it. But the all of you who are like, early listeners have took it out or like. 00:02:29:08 - 00:02:46:54 Unknown Yeah, we we noticed seems like you're doing something different. Really turn turn around. What grinds my gears? But I mean, I could do something. Whatever I had to have truly got me sons of bitches. You stoners. You have stoners. All right. How far are we into this? Three minutes gone. Awesome. Three minutes of my rambling. Let's get into it. 00:02:46:54 - 00:03:07:00 Unknown We're talking about shadow people. Different kinds of shadow people. What they do, who they are, what their zodiac signs might be. Let's. Let's find the freak out. Okay, where are my notes? Hey, and I'm not saying that shadow people are real. We might all just be, like, depressed, dehydrated, and chronically online. You know? And when you see things online, you start having the nightmares. 00:03:07:00 - 00:03:24:58 Unknown So. Okay. Anyways. Oh, back to nightmares. That's what I was talking about. Okay, so I'm having nightmares every night. I'm not necessarily having sleep paralysis. And that's because I refuse to sleep on my back. So that's probably why. But I am having like some of them I wake up and I'm like really sweaty. Some of them I wake up and it's not like I wake up and they're like hanging around me. 00:03:24:58 - 00:03:50:20 Unknown And it feels like. So this deeper meaning to like dream symbolism, like we've talked about, it truly just feels like wacky dreams. So I personally have not experienced shadow people in recent days. But knock on fucking wood, knock on this fake wood that I am still not going to see them. But have you seen them? You might be. 00:03:50:24 - 00:04:13:54 Unknown You might have seen a dark humanoid silhouette, usually in the corner of your vision during sleep paralysis. They usually don't have facial features, no detail. They're just a shadow shaped like a person. The most common traits of them are they're tall, darker than their surrounding darkness, usually humanoid. The one that I've seen one time really wasn't humanoid like it was, and it wasn't. 00:04:14:08 - 00:04:34:00 Unknown Felt like. But like something from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends. Have you ever had sleep paralysis and thought that your sleep paralysis demon looked like somebody from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends? Because I personally have. If you've if you've listened to the other episodes, you know I am. I've seen one come from like the corner of my room and approach me. 00:04:34:00 - 00:04:53:03 Unknown We're going to get into what it is. Usually they're watching or observing. Mine was coming towards me, so what the fuck was that about? They're either fast movement or completely still. Mine was not fast moving. Mine was like very steady moving. What's that about? It was mine. Paranormal then, because it wasn't humanoid and it was moving very steady. 00:04:53:08 - 00:05:16:57 Unknown Was mine paranormal guys. Okay, sorry if you are not an early listener of Talk It Out. I had an experience when I was younger. Are they sleep? Clearly a shadow person asleep process thing where I was experiencing sleep paralysis and this figure moved toward me and then they like reached their hand or like arm or whatever over my abdomen and like, we're going to, like, press down. 00:05:16:57 - 00:05:37:33 Unknown And I just remember being able to move at that point and like putting my sheet over my head and then like, you know, realizing it was gone when I came out of it. So so that was my sleep paralysis demon story. And now that I'm realizing that they're saying that they're like humanoid and this was either fast moving or like, still and mine was steady moving. 00:05:37:38 - 00:05:58:33 Unknown Was mine a demon? Okay, let's find out. They usually appear in doorways, corners, closets or at the end of the bed. Okay, I know we just jump straight into this, but shadow people are fucking scary. And how many people? Let's find out. What's the statistic on sleep paralysis? How many people can spell correctly? Because I sure can experience sleep paralysis. 00:05:58:38 - 00:06:22:14 Unknown Approximately 8 to 30% of the general population experiences sleep paralysis at least once in their lifetime. While estimates vary between studies, however, it's much more common for certain groups of people, such as college students around 28% and psychiatric patients around 32%. Okay. Oh, well, I was a young kid. So what does that mean again? What does it mean? 00:06:22:16 - 00:06:48:51 Unknown A US study found that a one year prevalence of 9.7%, meaning one in nearly ten, nearly 1 in 10 people had an episode within a year. That's crazy. The lifetime prevalence is much higher, with studies reporting around 28% of people. That is crazy. Oh, nearly 35% of people with panic disorders reported having experienced sleep paralysis. Oh, no. You're like panicking during the day and you're having sleep paralysis at night. 00:06:48:51 - 00:07:13:02 Unknown I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. That's a that's a motherfucker. That's not good. But as we get into shadow people, there are different kinds of shadow people. Hello? Hello. Coca cola. Hello. No, no, I didn't do that. No, wait. Okay. If you're not familiar with that James Charles video, then you're not. You're not my friend. No, I'm just kidding. 00:07:13:02 - 00:07:36:06 Unknown If you've if you've not seen it, you should. It's very funny. Okay. So the different types of shadow people okay. So who are the who are the shadow people. Sounds like a band not a band. Yeah. They only appear at night and they're terrifying. Okay, so the types of shadow people, regular shadow people, their basic dark silhouette, basic as fuck, they're six, seven. 00:07:36:11 - 00:07:55:35 Unknown Oh, that's so stupid, Gen Z. Why are you saying that? So lame. They're like the watchers and the lurkers. They're going to be just your regular, average like chillers. They're chilling out there, hanging around there, staring. They're looking creepy. They're doing T-Rex arms. I don't know what this is. I guess that's what shadow people do in my mind. 00:07:55:39 - 00:08:13:22 Unknown The hat man. Now the hat man, my shadow person was wearing a hat. But what didn't look like a man didn't look like a person, looked like a blob, like fluster. So I'm telling you, that man is a tall, shadowy figure wearing a hat. The hat is mostly described, as we've talked about before, like a fedora, a cowboy hat, or a wide brimmed hat. 00:08:13:27 - 00:08:46:20 Unknown He is a calm, observing presence. He's even creepier because he doesn't move. Duh duh. Obviously. Obviously something that's like lurking and watching is more sinister than something coming at you. Because if it's coming at you, you're kind of in fight or flight. If it's staying still, you're frozen. You're like, what? Like and maybe it's just me. Maybe you immediately go into fight or flight, but I freeze if it's coming at me and my adrenaline's going and I know I have to, like, do something that's different. 00:08:46:30 - 00:09:12:00 Unknown But. And then we have the crawlers. Who the fuck are the crawlers? As I'm getting goosebumps. Getting goosebumps because the crawlers sound fucking scary. These are extremely rare. Obviously these are going to be your most viral ones because they're fucking scary. And what is it? Have you seen the show Evil on Paramount Plus by the only one that's fine. 00:09:12:00 - 00:09:30:56 Unknown Evil and Paramount Plus was good. The first two seasons passed, then it kind of went off the rails. But the main character, she has a sleep paralysis demon, and this demon is like on the ceiling and it's like on the walls, and it's coming at her. And I mean, it's very animated and demons, you know, for obvious reasons. 00:09:30:56 - 00:09:53:56 Unknown But these are shadow figures that crawl on the walls or ceilings. Ooh. What are you talking about? Do you see crawlers, bitch? If you're seeing crawlers as, like, a sleep paralysis thing, talk to a priest, because who the fuck? I'm just joking. I'm just joking. They're just sleep paralysis. Demons. It's not real. But that is also very scary. 00:09:54:00 - 00:10:16:20 Unknown I personally would not really understand. I would not understand that that's sleep paralysis. And I would be freaking out. And no wonder I'd have a panic disorder. No wonder what chicken before the egg, the panic disorder before the before the sleep process or the process before the panic disorder? Like what? What fuels what? I don't know, but either way, scary. 00:10:16:25 - 00:10:38:23 Unknown Scary as fuck. Okay. And then we have the bedroom watcher. Not really sure how this person, the shadow person, is different than the regular basic one. Since, oh, seen standing over the bed during sleep paralysis feels heavy, quote unquote. So maybe that was mine, but why would it move from the corner to over top of me? Heavy? 00:10:38:28 - 00:11:02:50 Unknown It did feel heavy. Why does it feel heavy? I don't know, that feels scary. Feels so scary. Let me see. The bedroom watcher. Is that the source that has given Christian name? The bedroom watcher? Who's the shadow person? Oh. Oh, it really is the shadow person is a specific nickname for a type of shadow person, a dark silhouette that appears in the peripheral vision and stands in the room, often in the often in a bedroom. 00:11:02:55 - 00:11:29:24 Unknown Believers in paranormal phenomena describe it as feeling that feeling that a figure has been watching them, following them, or can cause intense fear and emotional distress while scientific explanation suggests that it's linked to sleep paralysis or psychological factors like heightened stress and fatigue, a phenomenon is considered a common type of haunting. What for? The entity seems to have a continuous presence watching its observers. 00:11:29:32 - 00:12:00:46 Unknown Hello, a haunting. Why is Google telling me that I'm haunted? Hello. Hello. Coca cola. Hello. I can't with this anymore. Stop saying that. Oh my God, he's ruined that. Okay, guys, that is so crazy. Okay, so finding out that I'm haunted live here on the podcast. That's crazy. Okay, so why have people started seeing them again? Probably because collective burnout and exhaustion if and I'm going to say right now that's the scientific. 00:12:00:51 - 00:12:26:12 Unknown That's probably like, you know, my simplified stoner explanation that I give you here on Talk It Out, we as millennials and Gen Zers are the most exhausted generations like we are. We like I mean, I could really go into like, we don't think we're we're not homeowners. We're not, but whatever. But why do we also have the highest sightings sleep paralysis, demons and what's up, Gen Alpha. 00:12:26:19 - 00:12:49:16 Unknown You're not seeing it. You shouldn't be listening to this. So I'm not talking to you. But shadow people surge during times of stress, lack of sleep and emotional overload. Well, this time of year, this, you know, Thanksgiving, Christmas, seeing family, being reminded of family in every way, shape or form. Being reminded of like having to be with people. 00:12:49:16 - 00:13:12:54 Unknown And if you're not and, you know, having the stress of buying gifts on top of paying bills, on top of cooking a nice dinner, on top of paying for that nice dinner, you know, all the things I can understand why this time of year we are surging, surging with shadow people. Okay, shadow people surge TM as as morbid says TM that just I guess that's how we're trademarking things now. 00:13:12:58 - 00:13:31:39 Unknown Thank you ash. But we are timing the shadow people search. You know we're in our early between 20s and 40. This is the time of our life where people in their 20s are figuring out their lives. And I'm in my 30s where I'm, like, trying to establish my life in the 40s, are trying to figure out how they're going to end their lives. 00:13:31:39 - 00:13:47:41 Unknown Like, I mean, no, I'm not really not how they're going to end their lives. I mean, like, how are they going to go into their 50, 60, 70 is I'm I'm talking to the prep of the older years when, you know, you start getting old. 40 is not old. Sorry, sorry. To all my listeners that was not hello. 00:13:47:41 - 00:14:17:27 Unknown Sorry. Say hello when we're fudging time, bitch. Oh, sorry. That's so annoying for me. It's so annoying. I'm. I annoy myself so hard. Don't do that, okay? And also, don't talk me to yourself, okay? But don't keep saying hello, okay? Are we still recording? Great. Okay. Sorry. Then then technical difficulty. Sorry. So anyways. What? As I was saying, sleep paralysis is at a high. 00:14:17:32 - 00:14:49:04 Unknown People are overscheduled, overstimulated, anxiety high. We are an anxiety high culture. And part of me thinks that especially millennials and Gen Z, we really like we feel comfortable feeling anxiety because we kind of always have felt anxiety to some degree. I mean, I'm talking as far as my younger years, nine, 11, seeing that so young and then, you know, basically from then on, it hasn't gotten any better, I don't know, since 20 to 2001, whatever, 20 I want that sort of thing. 00:14:49:09 - 00:15:06:06 Unknown But I think that we kind of feed on the anxiety because it's been, you know, that when I was younger and then it was like, oh, by the way, then you're getting ready for college. Oh, by the way, the country's at war. Oh, by the way, by the way, we're going to do it again, you know. So. Oh, by the way, there's more political strife, you know, whatever. 00:15:06:06 - 00:15:26:35 Unknown And I'm not here to talk about that so, so much. But, I mean, maybe that's why we like horror movies so much. Like our generation likes horror movies the most. And that's why, you know, I can go see 12 of them in theaters right now. And horror is actually the only genre. Generally. It says that's the only genre right now that I think is doing really super original things. 00:15:26:48 - 00:15:52:41 Unknown I mean, we are back to doing a lot more diverse movies, but horror and thrillers, they've been doing it and they still are. So period. Obviously, when sleep paralysis increases, the shadow people increase. That's scary. TikTok loves to share stories about sleep paralysis demons. I think because we're now seeing more, it's also like we're being exposed to these things more. 00:15:52:41 - 00:16:10:20 Unknown So they're in our mind more they're in our subconscious and our minds in our subconscious are going to think about that when we're dreaming again. It's kind of like it's kind of like how you are in a if you're in a good mood, you start seeing everything that's really good. And if you're in a shitty mood, you see things that are really show you. 00:16:10:29 - 00:16:27:35 Unknown I think you said that last week, but seeing in which shadow people, the more you start seeing it in your algorithm, the more you may start seeing it in real life. So you are seeing it. I'm just saying don't go down that fucking spiral. Okay, so the hat man is obviously one of the most popular and like recognized shadow people. 00:16:27:35 - 00:16:49:54 Unknown And that's why he's been portrayed in different kinds of movies, which again, is more mental priming. So why else are we seeing a bunch of sleep paralysis demons? Well, what day is it right now? If you're listening on this one, it comes out November 18th. The veil is thin. It still is. November is when the veil is the thinnest. 00:16:49:59 - 00:17:12:58 Unknown So the spooky. And I don't care if you don't believe this. The spooky is coming in okay. From September to December, many spiritual communities say the spirit world is closer during this time, and even people who are secular still internalize the vibe. So go ahead, say say you won't. Okay, between Halloween and this, it's kind of the, you know, death and rebirth outside. 00:17:12:58 - 00:17:36:45 Unknown It's getting cold. It's whatever the veils. Then I'm just gonna say appear in the bills then. So where did Shadow People originate from? Well, the jinn that I've talked about a million times on this podcast, I guess this is the podcast about talking out with the Jinn. I'm sure. I'm sure I have one somewhere, like attached to me, attached to something I have or whatever, because it keeps coming up, keeps coming up again. 00:17:36:58 - 00:18:06:06 Unknown Shapeshifting beings made of smokeless fire. As you know, they come from Islamic law and they're often seen as shadowy figures at times who are lurk in doorways and corners. So maybe what I saw was the jinn, who knows Appalachian folklore, the dark watchers. These are silent, tall figures watching travelers from ridge lines. If you've ever driven through the Appalachians at night, and if you think I'm pronouncing it wrong, go ahead. 00:18:06:09 - 00:18:29:19 Unknown The Appalachians. I'm. No, it's correct. I don't know. Very many things are correct, but I know that this one is. They usually are like seen from the corner of your eye. And they vanish when you look directly at them. If you've ever driven through the Appalachians at night regularly, you've probably experienced this. I have, I lived in the Appalachians for a year, and let me tell you, that is so real. 00:18:29:19 - 00:18:51:06 Unknown And the ridgeline, like watchers are scary and it's scary. How dare you guys, I won't, I'm not going to front with you guys. I don't know what is in some of these mountains, but the Appalachians, being the one of the oldest mountain ranges in the world, is crazy. Okay, crazy. Then we have, like, then across the pond to the Old English and European folklore. 00:18:51:11 - 00:19:14:26 Unknown That's not an accent. I'm so sorry. I tried to do an accent my acting class last week, and it flapped hard. It's already hard anyways. Old English and European folklore. These are night folk. These are spirits that have visited sleepers at night. They're often described as shadows with no faces. So shadow figures over there in the night folk, you know, sounds really nice. 00:19:14:26 - 00:19:35:10 Unknown The night folk sound also sounds like bent. The night folk, the shadow people. These are just band names. Really. This is just token out. And I'm just throwing out really good band names for you guys. Sorry. Oh, here's another one from the Caribbean, from Caribbean folklore dubs. Dub B sounds like a great band name. Okay, I don't know how serious the deputies are. 00:19:35:10 - 00:19:54:33 Unknown I'm just saying. Sounds like a great band name. Shadow like ghost that follow people at night known for pressing on chess and during sleep. Okay, those are the. That's like the old hag. That's the old hag. So what is happening? Are people having like, sleep apnea? And that's why. So that's why they're like feeling the chest at night and stuff. 00:19:54:45 - 00:20:20:41 Unknown Because if you guys remember sleep paralysis, the old hag, modern Western culture again, the hat man, he spread aggressively online in the 20 and the 2000s. How old was I when I saw the hat man or the hat figure? I had to be like ten. So it was like 2004, so I definitely was online. I don't know if I'd seen something about it before, probably. 00:20:20:51 - 00:20:49:29 Unknown You know, actually probably. But but it's spread aggressively online in the 2000s. But people all over the world were describing the same figure. There's no real origin stories. We have no idea where this archetype came from. Some believe he's a spiritual supernatural watcher, a time traveler, a multi universe bleed through or hallucination we all share. Which is crazy, but a hallucination we all share is not like the man that you know what I'm talking about. 00:20:49:29 - 00:21:06:31 Unknown The man that people have seen, he's like, have you seen this happen? I mean, the other might, have you seen this man? And it's this guy with these eyebrows, and he's balding and he's kind of got, you know, a circular face. I don't know, I'm going to put a picture up here, but if you've seen this myth in your dreams, it's. 00:21:06:32 - 00:21:31:59 Unknown A lot of people have, apparently. And I don't know why. Now, if you are spooky like me, you probably believe that some of this maybe not all that for sure, but at least a percentage of it is supernatural. So some people think that the shadow people are into interdimensional beings. It's kind of like, you know, they're coming through on like a 2D plane to some degree. 00:21:31:59 - 00:21:57:54 Unknown And some people, it's like seeing somebody through frosted glass, like it's the Upside Down. We only see their silhouette and they're like crossing dimensional lines. Hey, that feels less spooky and more scientific. And sci fi is not scientifically sci fi, you know, super science. Fictiony. There we go. Not scientific science fictiony just adding e on the end of anything to be descriptive. 00:21:58:00 - 00:22:21:56 Unknown Some people think that these are energy imprints left by past events like spiritual burn marks. A lot of people like, I think that's super real. If some kind of tragedy happens somewhere, there is an energy there that cannot be described. There's a heaviness, there is a something. And I mean, that's what a lot of people think ghosts are. 00:22:21:58 - 00:22:47:41 Unknown They're just spiritual burn marks. They're just heavy, loud, energetic energy or high energy things or beings that were alive that are now gone and their energy is kind of left over because energy can't be created or destroyed. So now why these energy burn marks would appear, not appear, and they wouldn't appear during the day when you're awake. But they were at night when you're like, half asleep. 00:22:47:41 - 00:23:17:44 Unknown Is that only when you can see them? Because your brain is, like, sensitive to those things? I don't know, but that might be my number one theory next to like it just being sleep paralysis. Or my number two theory after it just means sleep paralysis. And number three being negative entities, which are, some believe, people shadow people who feed off of fear, depression, insomnia, or emotional turbulence, which is why people tend to see them during hard times. 00:23:17:50 - 00:23:43:14 Unknown Is that just an energy burn mark? See, you know, real recognize real. You know what I mean? Like there your bad energy is seeing the energy burn mark of a shadow person. And it's like, I see you looking around. We're I'm with you. I'm with you. And it's. You guys are just both putting those energy burn marks together, I don't know, are you leaving an energy burn mark when you have sleep paralysis? 00:23:43:14 - 00:24:05:16 Unknown Because you're so high? I don't know, I don't know, just a theory. Now, why? This is the heart man is so weird to me because so many people have seen him across cultures. And because he is so calm and observing, why is he like that? And if we don't know where this archetype came from, like, what is it? 00:24:05:21 - 00:24:30:40 Unknown Now some people think that he is he only appears when you have a major life events, trauma or death in the family or sleep deprivation. Well, it was sleep deprivation. He had been visited me a long time ago, and quite often death in the family, trauma major life event. I have not personally seen the man during those times, but if you have, I'm super interested. 00:24:30:40 - 00:25:02:08 Unknown Like actually for real please please comment anything below. Talk to me about this because I'm so interested or posted on Reddit because I am all about the Reddit things these days. So sleep paralysis. It's your body waking up or your brain waking up before your body. It's when your dream imagery is bleeding into your reality. The brain will fill in a human to this space that you're seeing because that's, you know, we're wired to see threats and we're wired to see humans like real again. 00:25:02:08 - 00:25:31:25 Unknown Real recognize real. So that's what we're like, defaulting to see. I do you see in the dark, we're just naturally hyper vigilant, especially if you're scared panic disorder or exhausted sleep deprivation. Your brain is super heightened to notice everything around you. So you're so locked in, locked in for greatness that you're detecting threats that aren't even there. Or maybe you're so hyper vigilant, you're seeing the threats that we're not not to feed into anybody's psychosis. 00:25:31:25 - 00:25:56:07 Unknown That is not that may not be true. So and then, as we've talked about before, pareidolia, where we're seeing the faces in light switch, we're seeing the shapes in the clouds, we're seeing the humanoids in the shadows. That's what some people think. And obviously some people think it's a trauma response, like it shows up, it's your brain externalizing fear into imagery. 00:25:56:12 - 00:26:23:43 Unknown The shadow people are assuming shadow figures appear more in people with past traumas. I assume because you are poor trauma brain is, you know that PTSD is real. And if you're experiencing that, I'm so, so sorry. For real. Now, this is an interesting theory. A collective unconscious shared I archetypes is from Carl Jung. Humans share universal symbols like a mother, a hero, a shadow, a villain. 00:26:23:48 - 00:26:44:44 Unknown And the shadow man exists in nearly every culture because that's just what we. We just know. The shadow man. Like, we all just know the shadow man. And maybe that's why as a child, I could see him having that, having potentially never heard of the Shadow man before, ever. And if I did it, certainly it was briefly. It was not something I was like interested in as a child. 00:26:44:44 - 00:27:07:27 Unknown So and so because I wasn't experiencing it, I didn't I didn't search for those answers because I didn't know there were questions. So, so I highly, highly suggest you search TikTok if you are interested in these things, if you think you can see them and not experienced sleep paralysis, or if you want to experience sleep paralysis because you never have and you're a psycho and you want to do that, I'm just kidding. 00:27:07:27 - 00:27:31:56 Unknown You're not a psycho. But if you're if you're a curious cat and you want to do see process, look up things watching me at night and TikTok and you will see plenty of shadow people content. Also, you can watch home security footage and TikTok like doorway shadows. People have stitch videos about the hat man sighting. There's Reddit threads exploring the reports in the last three years. 00:27:32:05 - 00:27:56:33 Unknown That's crazy. There's so many. There's so many. And then obviously horror movies have revived The Hat Man, sinister, The Shadow Man, a short film, and insidious with the astral projection of it all. I personally, if the Hat Man is coming to my house again, he better be paying rent. He's folding laundry. He's he's sending me a Venmo. He's we're setting up an Airbnb for him. 00:27:56:33 - 00:28:13:23 Unknown And he's not coming to my room. Let me tell you that, because that is fucking scary. And obviously I have no control. But I if you see the hat, man, tell him to Venmo me for some emotional damages. Okay? Because I was scared. Fuck. It's okay. And that scared did follow me for a little bit. And I thought I was going to see him again. 00:28:13:23 - 00:28:38:20 Unknown And I never did so. And I'm so glad I never did. Tom. Stay away. Send me a Venmo and we'll all be good. Okay? Okay okay okay okay okay. Awesome. You guys. Well, thank you so much for tuning in to this episode of Talk It Out on the show and a much deeper dive into the Shadow People. And if you guys are not interested in that sign, and if you guys think that this episode sounds exactly like the sleep paralysis episode, I don't care. 00:28:38:24 - 00:28:56:21 Unknown I really don't care. It kind of does. And I really don't care because maybe you guys didn't listen to that one. So now you're listening to this one. Anyways. Anyways, guys tell you we don't care about me. I will talk to you guys soon and see you next week. Oh and go watch my episode from last week. Hello, hello Coca-Cola. 00:28:56:21 - 00:29:14:14 Unknown Hello guys. Please, guys, I don't know. Jesus. No, I'm not joking. I do try hard, but please go watch my episode from last week. Tell you weird uncle about me. I will see you on the next one. BYEEEEEE that's bad. That's really bad. That's really bad BYEEE