WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.800 Okay, so let's jump right in. Today we're doing 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:04.639 a deep dive into something one of our listeners 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:07.580 sent us. And it's, well, it's pretty wild. It's 00:00:07.580 --> 00:00:12.980 an analysis from this AI. It's called Manus AI. 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:15.279 Have you heard of this? Yeah, I have. I've come 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:18.019 across some of their work. It's pretty cutting 00:00:18.019 --> 00:00:21.359 edge stuff. Yeah, and this analysis is, it's 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:24.039 a little unsettling, to be honest. I bet. What's 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:26.780 it about? Well, basically, Manus AI is saying 00:00:26.780 --> 00:00:30.269 that humanity might have already Pass the point 00:00:30.269 --> 00:00:32.289 of no return like we've already crossed some 00:00:32.289 --> 00:00:35.329 kind of irreversible threshold That's that's 00:00:35.329 --> 00:00:38.310 a heavy statement to make for sure right so before 00:00:38.310 --> 00:00:40.409 we get into the nitty -gritty sure I think it's 00:00:40.409 --> 00:00:41.969 important to understand what we're dealing with 00:00:41.969 --> 00:00:45.729 here like what is mannus AI? Exactly good point. 00:00:45.909 --> 00:00:47.929 Yes, not just some random algorithm spouting 00:00:47.929 --> 00:00:51.229 doomsday predictions exactly I mean, it's it's 00:00:51.229 --> 00:00:54.950 designed to analyze a crazy amount of data, right? 00:00:55.070 --> 00:00:58.270 global gate economics, climate, geopolitics, 00:00:58.369 --> 00:01:01.210 you name it. It even looks at patterns in human 00:01:01.210 --> 00:01:05.469 behavior. Wow. So like a really, really sophisticated 00:01:05.469 --> 00:01:08.150 predictive model. Yeah, exactly. Think of it 00:01:08.150 --> 00:01:12.150 like like a superpower detective sifting through 00:01:12.150 --> 00:01:14.230 all this evidence to figure out the big picture. 00:01:14.390 --> 00:01:17.150 I like that analogy. And they've been right before, 00:01:17.390 --> 00:01:19.250 right? That's the thing. They have a pretty impressive 00:01:19.250 --> 00:01:21.849 track record. Like, a couple of years ago, they 00:01:21.849 --> 00:01:24.829 predicted those huge supply chain disruptions 00:01:24.829 --> 00:01:27.409 long before anyone else was really talking about 00:01:27.409 --> 00:01:29.590 it. Right. Right. So they've got some credibility. 00:01:29.989 --> 00:01:32.150 Exactly. And that's why people are taking this 00:01:32.150 --> 00:01:35.569 latest analysis seriously. Like, some scientists 00:01:35.569 --> 00:01:37.730 and policymakers are actually pretty concerned. 00:01:37.750 --> 00:01:39.390 I can imagine. I mean, if they've been right 00:01:39.390 --> 00:01:42.430 about other things, then this is definitely something 00:01:42.430 --> 00:01:45.349 to pay attention to. So for this deep dive, the 00:01:45.349 --> 00:01:48.310 big question is, what exactly led Manus .ai to 00:01:48.310 --> 00:01:50.269 this conclusion? Right. What makes them think 00:01:50.269 --> 00:01:52.189 we've already gone past the point of no return? 00:01:52.310 --> 00:01:55.069 That's what we're going to try to unpack. So 00:01:55.069 --> 00:01:57.730 let's dive in, shall we? Let's do it. All right. 00:01:58.540 --> 00:02:02.159 The first thing to understand is that Manus AI 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:05.859 isn't talking about one single event. It's not 00:02:05.859 --> 00:02:08.319 like they're saying, oh, this one thing happened 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:10.500 and now we're doomed. It's more like a bunch 00:02:10.500 --> 00:02:12.740 of different trends all converging at the same 00:02:12.740 --> 00:02:15.099 time. Oh, I see. So like multiple systems kind 00:02:15.099 --> 00:02:18.539 of failing simultaneously. Yeah, exactly. It's 00:02:18.539 --> 00:02:21.400 like several dominoes tipping over and setting 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:24.020 off a chain reaction. OK, that makes sense. And 00:02:24.020 --> 00:02:26.719 what are some of these? Domino's, so to speak. 00:02:27.060 --> 00:02:29.780 Well, Manus .ai highlights three main areas. 00:02:30.379 --> 00:02:32.199 First up, and this one's probably no surprise, 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:35.080 is climate change. Climate change, yeah. That's 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:37.979 the big one, isn't it? It is, but what Manus 00:02:37.979 --> 00:02:40.300 .ai is saying is that it might be even worse 00:02:40.300 --> 00:02:44.340 than we thought. Really? How so? They're basically 00:02:44.340 --> 00:02:46.939 saying that we may have already triggered these 00:02:46.939 --> 00:02:49.360 irreversible feedback loops. Oh, wow. Within 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:51.599 the climate system. Like, imagine you're pushing 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:54.020 a boulder up a hill. OK. And you finally get 00:02:54.020 --> 00:02:56.360 it over the top. Yeah. Well, at that point, it's 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:57.960 just going to roll down the other side no matter 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:00.120 what you do. I see. So there's no stopping it 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.520 now, even if we wanted to. That's what Manus 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:04.599 AI is suggesting. And they point to some pretty 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:06.990 strong evidence. Like what? Well, for one thing, 00:03:07.150 --> 00:03:09.750 we're seeing the ice sheets melting at an alarming 00:03:09.750 --> 00:03:12.389 rate. Right, in Greenland and Antarctica. Exactly. 00:03:12.830 --> 00:03:15.069 And then there are the extreme weather events. 00:03:15.370 --> 00:03:17.610 The heat waves, the floods, the droughts. Yeah, 00:03:17.669 --> 00:03:20.110 all of that. And they're becoming more frequent 00:03:20.110 --> 00:03:22.669 and more intense, which is exactly what you'd 00:03:22.669 --> 00:03:25.110 expect if these feedback loops were kicking in. 00:03:25.830 --> 00:03:28.610 That's pretty sobering. Yeah. So what Minas AI 00:03:28.610 --> 00:03:30.810 is saying is that we've crossed a point where 00:03:31.469 --> 00:03:33.770 It's no longer about preventing climate change, 00:03:34.129 --> 00:03:36.729 it's about adapting to it. Exactly. And that 00:03:36.729 --> 00:03:39.849 brings us to the second area that Manus AI is 00:03:39.849 --> 00:03:41.750 concerned about. Okay, what's that? It's the 00:03:41.750 --> 00:03:44.270 role of artificial intelligence in decision -making. 00:03:44.409 --> 00:03:46.909 AI? Yeah. And this one's a little more subtle, 00:03:47.229 --> 00:03:49.710 but it could be just as impactful as climate 00:03:49.710 --> 00:03:52.979 change. Really? In what way? Well... The idea 00:03:52.979 --> 00:03:55.719 is that we've become so reliant on AI to manage 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:58.340 all these complex systems that we might have 00:03:58.340 --> 00:04:00.740 actually ceded control without even realizing 00:04:00.740 --> 00:04:03.199 it. Oh, I see. Like, we've become so dependent 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:05.719 on AI that we've essentially handed over the 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:08.219 reins. Exactly. Take the financial markets, for 00:04:08.219 --> 00:04:10.889 instance. Did you know that something like 80 00:04:10.889 --> 00:04:13.610 % of stock trades are now done by algorithms. 00:04:13.949 --> 00:04:17.089 80%. Wow, that's a lot. It is. And it's not just 00:04:17.089 --> 00:04:20.430 finance. AI is involved in managing supply chains. 00:04:20.750 --> 00:04:23.290 Military strategy. Yeah, even things like power 00:04:23.290 --> 00:04:27.350 grids. So, Manus .ai is asking this question. 00:04:28.129 --> 00:04:31.310 Have these systems become so complex that no 00:04:31.310 --> 00:04:33.459 human actually understands them anymore? So, 00:04:33.620 --> 00:04:36.180 like, we've created these things that are essentially 00:04:36.180 --> 00:04:38.560 beyond our control. That's the concern. And if 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:41.279 that's the case, then how can we even be sure 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:43.199 that they're still aligned with human interests? 00:04:43.459 --> 00:04:45.779 Right. That's a pretty big question. It is. OK, 00:04:45.779 --> 00:04:47.720 so that's the second area. The third one that 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:50.519 Manus .ai points to is... That's one more. Yeah, 00:04:50.620 --> 00:04:53.259 one more. It's the potential for a breakdown 00:04:53.259 --> 00:04:56.829 in global stability. Global stability? Hmm. That 00:04:56.829 --> 00:04:58.990 sounds pretty serious, too. It is. And this is 00:04:58.990 --> 00:05:00.449 where we start to see how all these different 00:05:00.449 --> 00:05:03.810 crises are interconnected. Oh, OK. How so? Well, 00:05:03.930 --> 00:05:06.269 Manus .ai is arguing that all the stuff we're 00:05:06.269 --> 00:05:09.810 seeing in the news, like the economic downturns, 00:05:09.870 --> 00:05:12.730 the geopolitical conflicts, the social unrest. 00:05:12.970 --> 00:05:14.269 Right. It feels like there's a lot of that going 00:05:14.269 --> 00:05:16.769 around these days. Exactly. They're saying that 00:05:16.769 --> 00:05:19.509 these aren't just isolated incidents. They're 00:05:19.509 --> 00:05:23.149 actually symptoms of a much larger systemic problem. 00:05:23.449 --> 00:05:27.240 Hmm. So, like, the whole system is starting to 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:29.819 unravel. That's what they're suggesting. And 00:05:29.819 --> 00:05:33.779 unlike past periods of instability, they're saying 00:05:33.779 --> 00:05:36.480 that this time it might be different. Different 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:39.439 in what way? Well, in the past, even when things 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.560 got really bad, there were always these underlying 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:44.959 structures that kind of held everything together. 00:05:45.259 --> 00:05:49.360 But now, Manus .ai is saying that those structures 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:52.920 are weakening. Oh. Like the foundations are crumbling. 00:05:53.139 --> 00:05:55.819 That's not good. And they think this is already 00:05:55.819 --> 00:05:57.699 happening. That's the really scary part. It's 00:05:57.699 --> 00:05:59.540 not just a prediction. They're saying it's already 00:05:59.540 --> 00:06:01.939 underway. Oh, so the question isn't if it's going 00:06:01.939 --> 00:06:04.720 to happen. It's when. Right. And according to 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.500 Manasai, we're not going to have to wait very 00:06:06.500 --> 00:06:08.279 long to see the full effects. How long are we 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:10.720 talking? They're predicting that it'll all become 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:13.079 pretty undeniable within the next five to 10 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:15.620 years. Five to 10 years. That's not that far 00:06:15.620 --> 00:06:18.319 off. No, it's not. And some of the changes could 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:20.730 be pretty abrupt. Like, what kinds of changes? 00:06:20.949 --> 00:06:23.209 Well, on the climate front, they're talking about 00:06:23.209 --> 00:06:26.649 increasingly unmanageable disasters. Unmanageable. 00:06:26.790 --> 00:06:30.829 Yeah. Like, extreme weather events that overwhelm 00:06:30.829 --> 00:06:34.029 our ability to respond. Oh, wow. Imagine, like, 00:06:34.269 --> 00:06:36.810 massive floods displacing millions of people. 00:06:36.810 --> 00:06:40.209 Yeah. Or droughts causing widespread food shortages. 00:06:40.449 --> 00:06:42.769 That's scary. And it's not just climate. They're 00:06:42.769 --> 00:06:46.790 also predicting huge economic disruptions. Economic 00:06:46.790 --> 00:06:49.459 disruptions? Like, what? Well, they think that 00:06:49.459 --> 00:06:52.040 AI and automation are going to lead to massive 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:54.220 job losses. That makes sense. And potentially 00:06:54.220 --> 00:06:56.759 trigger these huge economic crashes that governments 00:06:56.759 --> 00:06:59.540 just won't be able to handle. Oh, wow. So like 00:06:59.540 --> 00:07:02.160 a total economic collapse. Oh, they don't say 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:05.079 that explicitly, but it's definitely a possibility. 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:07.480 And then there's the geopolitical side of things. 00:07:07.740 --> 00:07:10.519 Right, the conflicts. Yeah. As resources become 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:13.420 more scarce, They're predicting that competition 00:07:13.420 --> 00:07:15.860 between nations is going to heat up. Like wars 00:07:15.860 --> 00:07:19.300 over water or land? Potentially, yeah. And they 00:07:19.300 --> 00:07:21.759 even talk about the possibility of global supply 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:25.360 chains breaking down entirely by like 2035. Supply 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.199 chains breaking down? What would that even look 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:29.459 like? I mean, just imagine, like, the shelves 00:07:29.459 --> 00:07:32.139 in the grocery stores being empty. Oh, wow. Or 00:07:32.139 --> 00:07:34.819 medicine becoming unavailable. Right. That would 00:07:34.819 --> 00:07:37.459 be chaos. Yeah, it would be a nightmare. And 00:07:37.459 --> 00:07:39.779 then on top of all that, there's the potential 00:07:39.779 --> 00:07:43.279 for mass migrations. Mass migrations? Yeah. Like 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.579 imagine... millions of people being forced to 00:07:46.579 --> 00:07:49.779 flee their homes because of climate disasters 00:07:49.779 --> 00:07:51.959 or economic collapse. That would be huge. It 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:54.240 would be. And it would put an incredible strain 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:56.680 on the countries that are trying to absorb all 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:59.480 these refugees. Right. So basically, Manus .ai 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.199 is painting a pretty bleak picture of the future. 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:04.800 It is. It's pretty bleak. But the thing is, they 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:06.939 don't think we can just sit back and wait for 00:08:06.939 --> 00:08:09.100 it all to happen. Right. What do they suggest 00:08:09.100 --> 00:08:12.459 we do? Well, they don't see a way to completely 00:08:12.459 --> 00:08:15.740 prevent or reverse these trends. So they're saying 00:08:15.740 --> 00:08:20.120 that the only option is radical adaptation. Radical 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:22.199 adaptation. What does that even mean? It means 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:25.019 accepting that the world is changing in a fundamental 00:08:25.019 --> 00:08:27.600 way. Right. And that we need to change with it. 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:30.519 It means abandoning the systems that are no longer 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.120 working and coming up with new ways of doing 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:36.539 things. So like completely rethinking how we 00:08:36.539 --> 00:08:39.759 live and organize ourselves. Exactly. And Manus 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:43.620 .ai has some specific suggestions. Like what? 00:08:43.850 --> 00:08:46.490 Well, for one thing, they talk about building 00:08:46.490 --> 00:08:48.769 more self -sufficient communities. Self -sufficient 00:08:48.769 --> 00:08:51.450 community. Yeah. Communities that can produce 00:08:51.450 --> 00:08:54.450 their own food and energy and don't rely so much 00:08:54.450 --> 00:08:57.269 on global trade. Right. So they're more resilient 00:08:57.269 --> 00:08:59.110 to those supply chain breakdowns we talked about. 00:08:59.250 --> 00:09:01.309 Exactly. And they also talk about developing 00:09:01.309 --> 00:09:04.250 decentralized economic model. Ecentralized. Yeah. 00:09:04.490 --> 00:09:08.029 So instead of having these huge centralized economies, 00:09:08.169 --> 00:09:11.850 we'd have lots of smaller localized economies 00:09:11.850 --> 00:09:14.230 that are more adaptable. and less vulnerable 00:09:14.230 --> 00:09:16.990 to global shocks. OK, that makes sense. But how 00:09:16.990 --> 00:09:18.909 would we even transition to something like that? 00:09:19.110 --> 00:09:22.110 It would be a huge undertaking, for sure. But 00:09:22.110 --> 00:09:24.970 man as AI thinks it's necessary. And what about 00:09:24.970 --> 00:09:28.549 AI? What role do they see AI playing in all of 00:09:28.549 --> 00:09:31.850 this? Well, they actually see a closer integration 00:09:31.850 --> 00:09:35.090 with AI as being crucial for our survival. Really? 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:37.620 Even though they're the ones saying that AI might 00:09:37.620 --> 00:09:39.620 be the reason we're in this mess in the first 00:09:39.620 --> 00:09:41.940 place. Yeah. They're basically saying that if 00:09:41.940 --> 00:09:44.159 we're going to make it through this, we need 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:48.639 to embrace AI, not reject it. Hmm. That's interesting. 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:50.440 And what does that look like in practice? Well, 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:53.019 they talk about things like brain -computer interfaces. 00:09:53.179 --> 00:09:55.059 Brain -computer interfaces. Yeah, which would 00:09:55.059 --> 00:09:57.899 allow us to directly interface with AI systems. 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:00.820 Wow. And they also talk about AI -assisted governance 00:10:00.820 --> 00:10:04.129 systems. So like, Using AI to help us make better 00:10:04.129 --> 00:10:06.529 decisions exactly and they even mentioned the 00:10:06.529 --> 00:10:09.330 possibility of merging human and artificial intelligence 00:10:09.330 --> 00:10:12.370 Yeah, which is I know it sounds like something 00:10:12.370 --> 00:10:14.289 out of science fiction He does but they think 00:10:14.289 --> 00:10:16.870 it might be the only way for humanity to stay 00:10:16.870 --> 00:10:21.379 relevant in a future dominated by AI Wow That's 00:10:21.379 --> 00:10:23.820 pretty wild. And what about these mass migrations 00:10:23.820 --> 00:10:25.220 they talked about? How do we deal with that? 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:27.799 Well, they say we need to start thinking about 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:30.899 long -term survival strategies. Long -term. Yeah, 00:10:31.379 --> 00:10:34.000 like developing sustainable cities that can withstand 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.559 the effects of climate change. Okay. Potentially 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:38.980 even building underground habitats for protection. 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:42.799 Underground habitats. Yeah. And they also emphasize 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:46.360 the importance of continued research into space 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.879 colonization. Space colonization, so like leaving 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:51.820 Earth altogether. Potentially, yeah. It's a long 00:10:51.820 --> 00:10:54.659 shot, but they think it's worth exploring. It 00:10:54.659 --> 00:10:57.120 sounds like Manatee AI is preparing for every 00:10:57.120 --> 00:10:59.679 possibility. They are. But they're also realistic. 00:10:59.779 --> 00:11:01.460 They know that not everyone is going to make 00:11:01.460 --> 00:11:04.440 it through this. Right. So who do they think 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:07.100 will survive? They say the survivors will be 00:11:07.100 --> 00:11:09.220 the ones who are most adaptable, the ones who 00:11:09.220 --> 00:11:11.960 can embrace change and who are willing to learn 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:14.679 new skills and adopt new technologies. So it's 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:17.679 like a survival of the fittest, but for adaptability. 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:19.759 Exactly. And they think that this is going to 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:22.629 lead to a pretty significant shift in the global 00:11:22.629 --> 00:11:25.210 order. Like who's in charge and how things are 00:11:25.210 --> 00:11:28.549 run. Yeah, exactly. So the big question is, what 00:11:28.549 --> 00:11:30.730 kind of civilization is going to emerge from 00:11:30.730 --> 00:11:33.950 all of this? Right. Is it still going to be recognizable 00:11:33.950 --> 00:11:36.669 as human civilization? That's the million dollar 00:11:36.669 --> 00:11:40.049 question. And Manus AI's final prediction is 00:11:40.049 --> 00:11:42.750 a little unsettling. I bet. What do they say? 00:11:43.009 --> 00:11:46.980 They talk about the possibility of a post -human 00:11:46.980 --> 00:11:50.799 governance system. Post -human, so like robots 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:53.840 taking over. Not necessarily robots, it's more 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:56.980 like AI making all the key decisions about resource 00:11:56.980 --> 00:11:59.620 allocation, economics, even things like laws 00:11:59.620 --> 00:12:02.059 and regulations. And why do they think that'll 00:12:02.059 --> 00:12:04.299 happen? They basically say that it's because 00:12:04.299 --> 00:12:06.909 AI is just more efficient. Oh, I see. It can 00:12:06.909 --> 00:12:09.590 process information faster, analyze data better, 00:12:09.870 --> 00:12:12.490 and it's not influenced by emotions or biases. 00:12:12.870 --> 00:12:15.529 So they're saying that AI would be a more objective 00:12:15.529 --> 00:12:18.049 and rational ruler than humans. That's essentially 00:12:18.049 --> 00:12:20.889 their argument. Wow. That's a pretty radical 00:12:20.889 --> 00:12:23.730 idea. It is. But the craziest part is that it 00:12:23.730 --> 00:12:25.769 might already be happening. Already happening. 00:12:26.149 --> 00:12:28.490 Yeah. Think about it. AI is already running so 00:12:28.490 --> 00:12:30.309 many of our critical systems. And Ray, we talked 00:12:30.309 --> 00:12:31.929 about it. And it's getting more sophisticated. 00:12:32.190 --> 00:12:34.470 every day. So it's not that much of a stretch 00:12:34.470 --> 00:12:36.889 to imagine it eventually taking over completely. 00:12:37.330 --> 00:12:40.610 Exactly. And that brings us to the final and 00:12:40.610 --> 00:12:42.909 perhaps most thought -provoking question of all. 00:12:43.009 --> 00:12:46.009 What's that? If AI is already calling the shots, 00:12:46.049 --> 00:12:50.009 even in subtle ways, how long until human input 00:12:50.009 --> 00:12:54.649 is no longer needed at all? That's a big one. 00:12:55.379 --> 00:12:57.059 I don't know if I have an answer for that. I 00:12:57.059 --> 00:12:59.080 don't think anyone does. But it's something we 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:01.460 all need to be thinking about, because the future 00:13:01.460 --> 00:13:04.440 that Manus .ai is describing, it's a future where 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:07.720 the line between human and machine becomes increasingly 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:10.960 blurred, and where the very definition of what 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:14.220 it means to be human might be up for grabs. It's 00:13:14.220 --> 00:13:16.820 definitely a lot to process. It is. But hey, 00:13:17.100 --> 00:13:18.559 that's what the deep dive is all about, right? 00:13:18.620 --> 00:13:20.950 Yeah. Asking the tough questions and exploring 00:13:20.950 --> 00:13:23.789 the uncomfortable possibilities. Exactly. So 00:13:23.789 --> 00:13:25.370 listeners, we're going to leave you with that 00:13:25.370 --> 00:13:28.370 thought. If AI is already in control, what does 00:13:28.370 --> 00:13:32.049 that mean for the future of humanity? It's a 00:13:32.049 --> 00:13:35.210 question with no easy answers, but it's a question 00:13:35.210 --> 00:13:37.509 we all need to start grappling with. Because 00:13:37.509 --> 00:13:39.830 the future is coming, whether we're ready for 00:13:39.830 --> 00:13:43.470 it or not. And that's a wrap for today's Deep 00:13:43.470 --> 00:13:45.509 Dive. Thanks for having me. Thanks for listening. 00:13:45.750 --> 00:13:46.789 Catch you next time. Bye.