1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,960 Welcome to another deep dive. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:02,520 Yeah. 3 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,320 Today we're going to be exploring the future of coaching in 2025. 4 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:07,160 OK. 5 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,440 And let me tell you, things are getting interesting. 6 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,200 We've got a bunch of research articles and even some 7 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,200 like personal anecdotes from coaches who are out there doing the work. 8 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,160 Cool. 9 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,040 So what's our mission here? 10 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,480 Well, we're trying to uncover the biggest trends that will shape 11 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,280 how coaching evolves in the next couple of years. 12 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,920 That makes sense. 13 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,800 And we're talking about like the huge demand for coaches. 14 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,360 Yeah. 15 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:35,320 The role of AI, yes, AI, and a pretty fascinating new framework 16 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,720 called the Inner Development Goals or IDGs. 17 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,280 IDGs. 18 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,040 So whether you're a seasoned coach or just kind of curious about 19 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,000 where personal growth is headed, I think you're really going to want to hear this. 20 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:45,840 I think so too. 21 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:46,880 I think so too. 22 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,240 It's true. 23 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,480 The coaching landscape is changing so fast. 24 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:49,760 Right. 25 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,240 And what I think is really fascinating is that these trends, 26 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,960 they aren't happening on their own in isolation. 27 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,400 They're all interconnected and influencing one another. 28 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:58,720 Yeah. 29 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Creating this kind of dynamic and exciting future for coaching. 30 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:02,680 I agree. 31 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:02,920 Yeah. 32 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:03,280 OK. 33 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,960 So let's start with the fact that the coaching industry is absolutely exploding. 34 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:09,680 OK. 35 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,240 It is the second fastest growing industry in the world right now. 36 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:13,760 Wow. 37 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,640 Second only to the tech industry itself. 38 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Really? 39 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,840 I mean, that's pretty remarkable. 40 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:19,400 It is. 41 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,120 Don't you think? 42 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,280 Yeah, it really is. 43 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Yeah. 44 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,160 And I think it speaks to this really deep need that people are feeling 45 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,720 in these uncertain times. 46 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:28,040 You know? 47 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:28,520 Sure. 48 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,200 We live in a world of constant change and disruption. 49 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,720 And people are craving guidance and support. 50 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:36,000 Right. 51 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,880 They want help navigating challenges, building resilience, 52 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,680 finding their place in a world that feels increasingly complex. 53 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:43,960 Yeah. 54 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:47,360 And it's not even just about like dealing with stress or anything. 55 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,040 Our sources show people are really yearning for more purpose in their lives. 56 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,040 And they're turning to coaching to find it. 57 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:53,560 Right. 58 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,920 Take Miriam, for example. 59 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,160 She's a coach who works with migrants in the US. 60 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:57,560 OK. 61 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,520 And she finds so much joy in helping them overcome their fears 62 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,200 and gain clarity on what they want to achieve. 63 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,000 That's amazing. 64 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,680 Then there's Chantel, who focuses on academics who struggle with imposter 65 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,400 syndrome. 66 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:10,720 Right. 67 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,480 And I think we can all relate to that a little bit. 68 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,280 Oh, for sure. 69 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:13,720 Yeah. 70 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,040 What I find striking about these examples is that they really highlight 71 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,720 the human need for connection. 72 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,640 Totally. 73 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:21,880 And belonging. 74 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:22,800 Yeah. 75 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,800 You know, coaching at its core is about empowering individuals 76 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,120 to discover their potential and to live more fulfilling lives. 77 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:30,520 Right. 78 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,960 It's about fostering growth, self-awareness, a sense of purpose. 79 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,720 Exactly. 80 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:36,200 Yeah. 81 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,640 But you know, with all this rapid growth, 82 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:41,720 I think some people are wondering if the market's getting too saturated. 83 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Well, yeah. 84 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,480 I can see why people would think that. 85 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,320 And there are too many coaches and not enough clients to go around. 86 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:47,720 Yeah. 87 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,200 Yeah. 88 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,120 That's a good question. 89 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,240 What's a valid question, especially for those considering entering the field? 90 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,120 But Jonathan, who's a veteran coach, 91 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,760 brings up a really important point. 92 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,800 OK. 93 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,880 He argues that while there might be a lot of people calling themselves coaches, 94 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:08,400 you know, with minimal training, the demand for truly skilled and experienced 95 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,840 coaches is likely to outpace the supply. 96 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,200 OK. 97 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Especially as the world continues to become more complex and the challenges 98 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,480 we face become more multifaceted. 99 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:18,680 Right. 100 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,000 So it's not just about quantity. 101 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,480 Exactly. 102 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,320 It's about quality. 103 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,320 It's about quality. 104 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,200 And you, as the listener, might be thinking, what does this mean for me? 105 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:26,640 Yeah. 106 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:32,320 Well, it highlights the importance of investing in your professional development, 107 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,320 seeking out reputable training programs, 108 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,960 and building a solid foundation of experience. 109 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,440 For sure. 110 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,080 Yeah. 111 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,280 Jonathan's point really underscores the need to kind of raise the standards 112 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,000 of the coaching profession. 113 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:45,560 Yeah. 114 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,920 And for you, as a consumer of coaching services, 115 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:53,320 it emphasizes the importance of vetting potential coaches, 116 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,840 making sure they have the credentials and the experience 117 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:56,880 to really meet your needs. 118 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,400 Totally. 119 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,200 OK. 120 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,800 Now, let's talk about a dynamic that emerged from our research. 121 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,560 OK. 122 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,640 It's the generational divide in coaching. 123 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,640 Interesting. 124 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,120 We see this interplay between older, more seasoned coaches 125 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,200 and younger generations like Gen Z. 126 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:11,520 Right. 127 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,480 The question is, can these veteran coaches remain relevant 128 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,440 and connect with clients who have very different values and experiences? 129 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,400 It's a good question. 130 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:20,760 It is. 131 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,400 It's a question that's top of mind for many coaches, I'm sure. 132 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Yeah. 133 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,320 After all, each generation comes with its own unique worldview 134 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,720 and set of expectations. 135 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,520 Right. 136 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,480 So what's interesting is that our sources 137 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,320 offer a range of perspectives on this. 138 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:33,760 OK. 139 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,360 Sophia, who's been coaching for decades, 140 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,160 noticed something really interesting. 141 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,200 What's that? 142 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,760 She found that many of her younger clients 143 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,760 were actually seeking her out because of her experience. 144 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,760 Oh, wow. 145 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,040 They valued the wisdom and perspective 146 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,360 that comes with having lived through different eras 147 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,000 and navigated various life challenges. 148 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:55,520 Interesting. 149 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:56,240 It's interesting. 150 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,280 It suggests that experience in itself doesn't become obsolete. 151 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:00,680 No. 152 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,560 It's about how that experience is presented 153 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,240 and how the coach adapts their approach 154 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,840 to meet the specific needs and communication styles 155 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:11,040 of different generations. 156 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:11,600 I see. 157 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,240 Now Miriam, who we mentioned earlier. 158 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:13,640 Yeah. 159 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,000 She had a similar experience. 160 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,160 Oh, cool. 161 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,040 One of her younger clients specifically chose her because 162 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,000 of her years in the field. 163 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,200 It really challenges the assumption 164 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,080 that younger clients automatically 165 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,200 gravitate toward younger coaches. 166 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:28,720 Right. 167 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,520 It seems to be more nuanced than that. 168 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,160 It does. 169 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,640 And while experience is valuable, 170 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,960 it's also important to acknowledge 171 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,840 the unique perspective of younger coaches as well. 172 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:38,240 Right. 173 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,160 Anders, who's a millennial coach, 174 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,720 pointed out that while young people appreciate 175 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,400 the insights of seasoned professionals, 176 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,720 they also want to feel heard and understood without judgment. 177 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Of course. 178 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,120 They crave authenticity and connection, 179 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,680 just like any other client. 180 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,640 That makes a lot of sense. 181 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,120 Yeah. 182 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,800 It's not about one generation being better than the other. 183 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:57,280 Right. 184 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:00,400 It's about recognizing that we all have something 185 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:01,480 valuable to offer. 186 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,000 Yes. 187 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,080 And that the most effective coaching relationships 188 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,880 are built on mutual respect and understanding. 189 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,600 Absolutely. 190 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,000 OK. 191 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:08,520 Yeah. 192 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Chantel, a coach who works with Gen Z, 193 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,440 emphasized the importance of continuous learning. 194 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,160 She stressed the need for coaches 195 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,200 to stay informed about the social and cultural trends that 196 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,720 shape the worldview of younger generations. 197 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,000 So kind of bridging that gap. 198 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,000 Bridging that gap. 199 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,560 By speaking their language. 200 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:26,120 Yeah. 201 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Understanding their challenges and aspirations. 202 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,520 I think what I find so interesting about this 203 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,840 is that it applies to all coaches. 204 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:33,360 It does. 205 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,720 Regardless of age or experience, 206 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,800 we can't just rely on what we've learned in the past. 207 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,200 Right. 208 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,440 We have to stay curious, adaptable, and willing to grow 209 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,000 alongside our clients. 210 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,240 That's the beauty of coaching. 211 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:45,920 Yeah. 212 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,200 It's a journey of continuous learning and growth, 213 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,000 both for the coach and the client. 214 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:52,640 I love that. 215 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,320 By embracing different perspectives 216 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,000 and fostering that genuine desire to connect. 217 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:57,480 Yeah. 218 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,280 We can create truly transformative experiences 219 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:02,880 that go beyond generational boundaries. 220 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:03,640 I agree. 221 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:04,040 Yeah. 222 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,280 OK. 223 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:06,680 So we talked about the booming coaching market 224 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,680 and the generational dynamics at play. 225 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:09,160 Right. 226 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,000 But now let's turn our attention to something that's 227 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,640 really kind of shaking things up. 228 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,160 OK. 229 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,560 Artificial intelligence. 230 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:14,800 Yeah. 231 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,280 AI or AI. 232 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:16,760 Right. 233 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,720 Now, before you start picturing Robox taking 234 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,120 over coaching sessions, let's dig into what this actually 235 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,280 means for the future of coaching. 236 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,800 It's funny how AI often sparks excitement and apprehension 237 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,680 at the same time. 238 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,440 For sure. 239 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,400 But when it comes to coaching, I 240 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,120 don't think it's about replacement. 241 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:34,400 Right? 242 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,680 It's about augmentation. 243 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,160 Uh-huh. 244 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,360 You know, AI can be a really powerful tool for skilled coaches. 245 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,040 Yeah. 246 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,080 It enhances their capabilities and expands their reach. 247 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,800 I think a lot of listeners are probably wondering, 248 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,720 what does AI-powered coaching actually look like? 249 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,160 Yeah. 250 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,240 It's a good question. 251 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,600 Is it just about scheduling and sending automated reminders? 252 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:53,920 Right. 253 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,320 Or is there something more to it? 254 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,920 It goes way beyond simple automation. 255 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:58,600 OK. 256 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,560 Lucille, a thought leader in the coaching space, 257 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,840 sees AI as a collaborative partner for coaches. 258 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:05,480 Interesting. 259 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,160 She pointed to tools that are already being used, 260 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,400 like platforms that analyze client language patterns, 261 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,000 to identify underlying emotional states. 262 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,440 And this kind of insight can help coaches tailor their approach 263 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,000 and provide more targeted support. 264 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,080 That's pretty incredible. 265 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,200 We're talking about a level of personalization 266 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,720 that wasn't possible before. 267 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,080 Right. 268 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,200 It's like having a virtual assistant that analyzes subtle cues 269 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,600 and provides feedback in real time. 270 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,520 Exactly. 271 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,480 And there are platforms like coach.me, 272 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,280 which uses AI to match clients with coaches, 273 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,720 based on their specific needs and goals. 274 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,800 That's interesting. 275 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,400 This can be really helpful for people 276 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,760 who might not know where to start. 277 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,280 Sure. 278 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,400 Or how to find the right coach for them. 279 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,240 It's almost like AI is acting as a matchmaker 280 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,320 in the coaching world. 281 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:53,960 Yeah. 282 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,600 Connecting people who are perfectly suited for each other. 283 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,240 Yeah, I like that. 284 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:57,880 Yeah. 285 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,800 And AI also has the potential to democratize coaching, 286 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,160 making it more accessible to those 287 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,600 who might not have the resources for traditional one-on-one 288 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,040 coaching. 289 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:07,600 Exactly. 290 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,040 So platforms like BetterUp are leveraging AI 291 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,920 to create personalized coaching experiences. 292 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,720 But at a fraction of the cost. 293 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Right. 294 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,040 So AI could actually help break down 295 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,600 those barriers to entry, making coaching available 296 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,280 to a wider audience. 297 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:22,720 It could. 298 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,520 This could be really beneficial for underserved communities 299 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,840 or those who maybe don't have access 300 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,560 to traditional coaching services. 301 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:31,640 Absolutely. 302 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:32,480 That's great. 303 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,520 And another area where AI shines is 304 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,000 in providing continuous support between sessions. 305 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:39,640 OK. 306 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,800 Imagine having an AI-powered coaching agent 307 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,880 that's available 24-7 to offer encouragement, answer 308 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,320 questions, and help you stay on track with your goals. 309 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,200 That's a lot. 310 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Yeah. 311 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,440 This level of accessibility can be super valuable, 312 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,320 especially for clients who are going through tough transitions 313 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,200 or need extra support outside of scheduled sessions. 314 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,680 All of this sounds incredibly promising. 315 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:03,040 Yeah. 316 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,560 But I think some listeners might be thinking, hold on, 317 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:09,680 isn't there a risk that we lose that human element of coaching 318 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:11,520 with all of this technology? 319 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,360 That's a question that comes up a lot. 320 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:13,760 Right. 321 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:14,680 And it's a good one. 322 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:19,560 Lucille emphasizes that while AI can enhance and extend 323 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:24,560 coaching, it can't replace the empathy, the intuition, 324 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:28,240 and what she calls the randomness of human connection. 325 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:28,920 Yeah. 326 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,240 There are certain aspects of coaching, 327 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,280 like navigating complex emotions, building deep trust, 328 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,280 and providing nuanced feedback that still 329 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,040 require the human touch. 330 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,240 It makes me think about something Penny shared. 331 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:41,960 OK. 332 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,480 She's a coach who works with individuals in sensitive fields. 333 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,040 And she's noticed that many of her clients actually 334 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,600 prefer not to have sessions recorded or summarized by AI. 335 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,160 Really? 336 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,880 They value the privacy and the intimacy of a human-to-human 337 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:58,800 interaction. 338 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,000 That's really interesting. 339 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,920 I thought so, too. 340 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,800 This is a lot about that human connection in coaching. 341 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:04,240 Yeah. 342 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,440 You know, AI can analyze data and provide insights, 343 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,080 but it can't fully replicate the warmth, the understanding, 344 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,920 and genuine presence that a skilled human coach brings 345 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:15,600 to the table. 346 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,880 So it's not about AI replacing human coaches? 347 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:18,640 No, not at all. 348 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,760 It's about empowering them to be even more effective, 349 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,920 providing them with tools and insights that 350 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,080 can deepen their impact and extend their reach. 351 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,280 It's about finding that right balance 352 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,120 between leveraging technology and preserving 353 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,440 the human connection. 354 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,160 The future of coaching lies in the smart integration of both. 355 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:38,800 I like that. 356 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,440 Yeah. 357 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,680 Before we move on to another fascinating trend, 358 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:43,800 I want to hear from you, the listener. 359 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:44,440 Yes. 360 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,160 What are your thoughts on AI in coaching? 361 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:47,440 Yeah. 362 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,560 Do you see it as a threat, an opportunity, 363 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:51,800 or maybe something in between? 364 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,320 Take a moment to reflect on how this evolving landscape might 365 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,480 impact your own coaching journey, 366 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,320 whether you're a coach or a client. 367 00:11:59,320 --> 00:11:59,760 OK. 368 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,120 So let's switch gears now. 369 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:01,560 OK. 370 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:04,680 And explore another interesting development 371 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:08,320 that's shaping the future of coaching, the inner development 372 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:08,720 goals. 373 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:09,760 Oh, yes, IDGs. 374 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:10,640 Or IDGs. 375 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,320 This is a topic I've been so excited to dig into. 376 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:13,720 OK. 377 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,840 It sounds kind of mysterious and transformative, 378 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,400 almost like a secret society of self-improvement gurus. 379 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:21,120 Yeah, kind of. 380 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,440 But seriously, what are these IDGs all about? 381 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:24,800 Right. 382 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,120 And what makes them so special? 383 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,440 Well, you're not far off with the transformative part. 384 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,240 OK. 385 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,080 The IDGs offer a really powerful framework 386 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,240 for personal and collective growth, 387 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,880 and they go beyond the usual coaching goals. 388 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,240 OK. 389 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,200 Of achieving outcomes or hitting certain milestones. 390 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:41,600 Right. 391 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,440 They're special because they connect personal development 392 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,720 to a bigger purpose. 393 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:47,200 OK. 394 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,240 Creating a sustainable future for ourselves and the planet. 395 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,080 So it's not just about individual success anymore. 396 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,240 No, not just that. 397 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,720 It's about recognizing that our personal growth 398 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,600 is interconnected with the well-being of the world 399 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,240 around us. 400 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,040 Exactly. 401 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:01,560 I like that. 402 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:05,360 The IDGs recognize that we need a new kind of leadership. 403 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:05,960 OK. 404 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,920 One that's rooted in self-awareness, resilience, 405 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,400 and ethical decision-making. 406 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:11,480 Powerful stuff. 407 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:11,960 Yeah. 408 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,240 These qualities are essential for navigating 409 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,960 the challenges of the 21st century. 410 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,600 For sure. 411 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,040 And creating a more just and sustainable world. 412 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,600 This is really resonating with me. 413 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,360 It's like we're shifting from a mindset of me 414 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,800 to a mindset of we. 415 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,440 I like that. 416 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,640 It's about understanding that our personal growth isn't just 417 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,000 about climbing the ladder or achieving material success. 418 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:33,560 Right. 419 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:36,200 But about developing the inner qualities that 420 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,680 allow us to contribute to something larger than ourselves. 421 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:42,080 The IDGs are organized into five categories. 422 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:42,580 Yeah. 423 00:13:42,580 --> 00:13:45,720 Being thinking, relating, collaborating, and acting. 424 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:46,720 OK. 425 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,040 Each category has specific skills and qualities 426 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,400 that are essential for navigating the complexities 427 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,040 of our world. 428 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Right. 429 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,480 And creating a more sustainable future. 430 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Let's break that down a little bit. 431 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:57,320 Sure. 432 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,680 What are some examples of the inner qualities that fall 433 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:02,040 under each of these categories? 434 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,600 OK, so within being, we're talking 435 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,280 about cultivating self-awareness, developing 436 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,960 an inner compass, nurturing presence, 437 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,360 and embodying integrity and authenticity. 438 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:12,840 Got it. 439 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,360 Then in thinking, it's about embracing complexity, 440 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,560 honing critical thinking skills, 441 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,080 fostering long-term thinking, envisioning, 442 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,960 and developing mental flexibility. 443 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,120 It sounds like a very holistic approach 444 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,320 to personal development. 445 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:27,680 It is. 446 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,160 Encompassing not just our actions, but also our values, 447 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,680 our mindset, and how we interact with the world around us. 448 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,800 And remember, we talked about Lucille's perspective on AI. 449 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,320 I do. 450 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,640 Well, she also sees the IBGs as a way 451 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,400 to align personal and professional growth. 452 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,120 OK. 453 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,520 It's not about separating those spheres. 454 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:46,920 Right. 455 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,760 It's about integrating them in service of a larger purpose. 456 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,520 So bringing our whole selves to the table, 457 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,280 integrating our personal values and aspirations 458 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,560 into our work and our contribution to the world. 459 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,280 Exactly. 460 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,560 That's really powerful. 461 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,320 It is. 462 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,160 Now, I'm curious. 463 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:03,660 Yeah. 464 00:15:03,660 --> 00:15:07,520 How are coaches actually using this IDG framework 465 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,760 in their practice? 466 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:09,080 Right. 467 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,040 Is it just a theoretical concept? 468 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,920 It's definitely not just theoretical. 469 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:13,200 Right. 470 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,080 Coaches are finding really creative ways 471 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,600 to weave the IDGs into their practice. 472 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,360 OK. 473 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,680 And Lucille highlighted a few key applications. 474 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,880 First, they can use the IDG framework 475 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,560 to guide self-reflection. 476 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,080 It offers a rich vocabulary for exploring 477 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,080 values, motivations, and areas for growth, 478 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,560 particularly in relation to creating a sustainable future. 479 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,480 So instead of just asking clients, what are your goals? 480 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,000 Right. 481 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,640 Coaches can delve deeper into the why behind those goals. 482 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:43,160 Exactly. 483 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,000 And help clients connect them to something bigger than themselves. 484 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:46,480 Yes. 485 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,000 That's great. 486 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,720 And beyond self-reflection, the IDGs 487 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,360 can also be used for goal setting and action planning. 488 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,400 OK. 489 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,600 Coaches can help clients set goals that 490 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,520 are aligned with the IDG framework. 491 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:57,880 Right. 492 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,160 Ensuring that their personal development contributes 493 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,440 to a more sustainable and just world. 494 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,840 This reminds me of something Jonathan mentioned earlier. 495 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:06,480 What's that? 496 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,280 About the interconnectedness of individual well-being 497 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,240 and the health of our institutions. 498 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:11,560 Yeah. 499 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,560 It all ties together. 500 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,200 It does. 501 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,760 And another way coaches are integrating IDGs 502 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,400 is by structuring entire coaching programs 503 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,240 around the five IDG themes. 504 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,160 OK. 505 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,880 This provides a really comprehensive and holistic 506 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,680 approach to personal development. 507 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,120 Going beyond simply addressing immediate challenges 508 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,360 and fostering deeper levels of growth and transformation. 509 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:33,800 Wow. 510 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,800 So the IDGs really provide a powerful framework. 511 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,400 They do. 512 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,080 For coaches to guide individuals and even organizations 513 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,120 towards a more sustainable and fulfilling future. 514 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,680 And there's even the possibility 515 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,440 of integrating IDGs with assessment tools. 516 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,000 OK. 517 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:50,520 Like what? 518 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,400 Like the Aporia maturity assessment. 519 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:52,920 OK. 520 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,240 Which can provide a baseline measurement 521 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,600 of an individual's development across the IDG categories. 522 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,280 That's cool. 523 00:16:59,280 --> 00:16:59,640 Yeah. 524 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,960 This could be really valuable for tracking progress. 525 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:02,520 It could. 526 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,640 And demonstrating the impact of coaching 527 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,360 on an individual's overall maturity 528 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:10,280 and their capacity to contribute to a better world. 529 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:10,880 Absolutely. 530 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:11,520 OK. 531 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,120 But it's important to acknowledge that no framework is perfect. 532 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:14,640 Right. 533 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,280 There are some critiques of the IDGs 534 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,240 that are worth considering. 535 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:17,560 Yeah. 536 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,120 For sure. 537 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:20,240 What stands out to you as potential concerns? 538 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,160 Well, based on what Lucille shared, 539 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,480 one potential concern is that the emphasis on individual 540 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,920 development could overshadow the need for collective action. 541 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:29,360 Hmm. 542 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:29,880 I see. 543 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,800 Is there a risk that focusing too much on the inner 544 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,280 could detract from addressing the systemic issues that 545 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,200 require collective efforts? 546 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,560 That's a good point. 547 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,560 You know, it's crucial to strike a balance 548 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,840 between inner development and tangible actions 549 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,680 towards creating a more sustainable and just world. 550 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:46,200 I agree. 551 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,000 It's not either. 552 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:47,280 Right. 553 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,400 It's both hands. 554 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:48,920 Oh, right. 555 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,920 And Lucille also mentioned the risk of elitism 556 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,040 and limited access. 557 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Uh-huh. 558 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,920 Could this framework, with its emphasis 559 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,760 on personal growth and transformative leadership, 560 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,960 inadvertently exclude or marginalize 561 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,440 those who lack the resources or opportunities 562 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,480 to engage with it? 563 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,800 That's a valid concern. 564 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,240 Yeah. 565 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,080 For the IDGs to really make a difference, 566 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,960 they need to be accessible and inclusive. 567 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:11,360 Right. 568 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,320 Not limited to a privileged few. 569 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:13,960 I agree. 570 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,240 We need to make sure they're culturally relevant 571 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,040 and address any power dynamics that 572 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,720 might create barriers to participation. 573 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,920 And finally, Lucille cautioned against solely focusing 574 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,080 on inner transformation. 575 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:26,280 Yeah. 576 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,400 Without taking concrete action, 577 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,080 it's about translating those inner shifts 578 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,800 into tangible efforts. 579 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:33,200 Right. 580 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,240 That create positive change in the world around us. 581 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,360 The IDGs can be a powerful catalyst for change. 582 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:39,840 Yeah. 583 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,480 But only if they're grounded in a commitment. 584 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:42,880 Right. 585 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,600 To creating a more just and sustainable future for everyone. 586 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,640 I think that's a good place to leave it for now. 587 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,560 Yeah, I agree. 588 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,960 Wow, we've covered a lot of ground in this deep dive. 589 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,080 Yeah, we have. 590 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,720 It's clear that the coaching landscape 591 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,040 is like really changing. 592 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,600 You know, the booming market, the generational shifts, 593 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,680 the rise of AI, the emergence of IDGs. 594 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,800 That's a lot. 595 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:05,360 It's a lot. 596 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:08,280 And it's all kind of converging in these fascinating ways. 597 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,360 And what I think is really striking 598 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:13,360 is how interconnected all these trends are. 599 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:14,040 Right. 600 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,400 You know, it's not just about isolated development. 601 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:16,880 Right. 602 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,320 It's about how all of these forces are shaping 603 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,560 and influencing each other. 604 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,160 For sure. 605 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,400 And that's creating this dynamic ecosystem for coaching 606 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,800 to really evolve. 607 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,360 It's like we're at this crossroads. 608 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:28,920 We are. 609 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,680 And the choices we make now will kind of determine 610 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,240 the future of coaching. 611 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,240 I think so. 612 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,640 It's exciting and a little daunting. 613 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:37,720 Yeah, for sure. 614 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,640 Don't you think? 615 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,120 Definitely. 616 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:41,080 And I think one of the big questions that came up 617 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,000 in our research is how these trends will actually 618 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,400 play out in practice. 619 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:45,880 Right. 620 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,280 Like how? 621 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:51,400 Like how will AI shape the way coaches integrate the IDGs 622 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,360 into their work? 623 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:53,360 Good question. 624 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:56,120 Will technology make it easier to cultivate 625 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:57,160 those inner qualities? 626 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:57,800 Right. 627 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,240 Or will it create new challenges? 628 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,480 It makes me think about what Jonathan said about the need 629 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,520 to kind of safeguard the coaching profession 630 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,400 with all these new tools and technologies coming out. 631 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,320 It's more important than ever for coaches 632 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,600 to maintain ethical standards. 633 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,080 It is. 634 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,360 And make sure that technology serves the human connection 635 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:20,080 that's at the heart of coaching. 636 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:20,640 Absolutely. 637 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,920 It's about using technology responsibly and intentionally 638 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,000 always putting the client's well-being and growth first. 639 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,680 Totally. 640 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,200 And it also makes you wonder how the demand for coaching 641 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,160 will change as technology becomes a bigger part of it. 642 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,160 Will AI make coaching more accessible? 643 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,120 Or will it create new forms of exclusivity? 644 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:42,440 Right. 645 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,720 Those are all really important questions to think about. 646 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,800 And it reminds me of what Chantel said about the need 647 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,600 for coaches to stay informed and adaptable. 648 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:51,200 Yeah. 649 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,480 You can't just stick with the old ways of doing things. 650 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,080 Exactly. 651 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,360 You've got to be open to new possibilities 652 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,840 and embrace the potential of technology, 653 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,800 but also stay true to the core values of coaching. 654 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,800 It's about finding that balance. 655 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:04,400 It is. 656 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,880 Where technology enhances human connection instead 657 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,760 of replacing it. 658 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,600 And this leads to another interesting question 659 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,320 from our research. 660 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,120 OK, what's that? 661 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:16,080 Can coaching in all its evolving forms 662 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,600 actually make a difference in addressing systemic issues? 663 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,440 Like, what do you mean? 664 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,760 Like corruption, inequality, environmental degradation. 665 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,040 That's a big question. 666 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:26,520 It is. 667 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,600 It challenges us to think beyond just individual transformation 668 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,440 and to consider the wider impact of coaching. 669 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:33,760 OK. 670 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,800 Can coaching not only help individuals thrive, 671 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,600 but also help create more ethical and sustainable systems 672 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,480 and institutions? 673 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,360 I like that. 674 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:42,440 That's a powerful thought. 675 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:42,840 It is. 676 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,080 It connects back to the IDGs, which 677 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,280 emphasize things like collaboration and systems 678 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,200 thinking and acting in service of a larger purpose. 679 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,400 What if we integrated IDGs into coaching programs 680 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,200 within organizations? 681 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:57,800 OK. 682 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,720 Do you think that could foster a greater sense 683 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,360 of responsibility and ethical conduct? 684 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:03,680 I love that idea. 685 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,000 It's like shifting the focus from individual game 686 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,760 to collective well-being. 687 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,360 Exactly. 688 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:13,080 Using coaching as a force for positive change 689 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,040 at a bigger level. 690 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,680 And that brings us to our final thought. 691 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,920 OK, I'm ready. 692 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,920 Could we actually develop AI tools 693 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,000 to support the development of those inner capacities that 694 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,560 are outlined in the IDGs? 695 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,920 You mean, like, could technology actually help us 696 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,280 become more self-aware? 697 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:28,760 Exactly. 698 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,280 More resilient, more ethical? 699 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,720 If it's used ethically and intentionally, 700 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,280 could it help make personal growth more accessible 701 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,640 and effective for everyone? 702 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,200 Imagine AI-powered coaching platforms. 703 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:39,560 Yeah. 704 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,920 That not only help us set goals and track progress, 705 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,520 but also guide us in developing those inner qualities that 706 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,880 make the world a better place. 707 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,560 It's a really interesting idea. 708 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,040 It is. 709 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,240 It's like this uncharted territory 710 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,120 where technology and human development meet. 711 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:56,040 It's exciting. 712 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,440 It is. 713 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,360 It's full of possibilities and challenges. 714 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:02,120 As we head towards 2025 and beyond, 715 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:04,120 the future of coaching is really going 716 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:08,000 to be shaped by our collective imagination, 717 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,800 our commitment to being ethical, 718 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,040 and our willingness to embrace both human connection 719 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,680 and technological innovation. 720 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,920 To make the world a better place. 721 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,480 Yeah, I like that. 722 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,280 That's a really inspiring note to end on. 723 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:21,880 It is. 724 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,640 Thanks for joining us for this deep dive 725 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,800 into the world of coaching. 726 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,400 Of course. 727 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,360 We hope you got some new insights and ideas. 728 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:28,200 I hope so. 729 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,640 Whether you're a coach, a client, 730 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,280 or just someone who's passionate about personal and collective 731 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:32,600 growth. 732 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,280 We too. 733 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,400 Until next time, keep learning, keep growing, 734 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,800 and keep questioning. 735 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,600 Sounds good.