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All right, so get this, we're going deep on AI

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and the future of finance.

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Yeah, and everyone's kind of freaking out about it, right?

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Exactly, like will robots be managing our 401Ks?

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Uh-huh, right.

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And lucky for us, we've got this interview

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with MIT professor Andrew Lowe,

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he's like the E guy on this.

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Oh yeah, he knows his stuff for sure.

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So he actually thinks we're on the verge

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of a financial revolution.

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Whoa, a revolution, like what does that even mean?

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Well, think about this, he says these LLMs,

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those are the big AI brains everyone's talking about.

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Right.

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They can analyze those crazy financial reports,

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you know, the ones that put you to sleep.

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Oh yeah, the ones I pretend to read.

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Ha ha, exactly.

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Okay, but AI can actually understand those.

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Apparently way faster than any human team

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and they can spot all sorts of stuff,

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like hidden risks or even get this,

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market patterns that we totally miss.

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So it's like having a super powered stockbroker

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in your pocket.

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Kinda, but there's a catch.

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Oh, there's always a catch.

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Right, so these LLMs, they can sometimes see things

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that aren't really there.

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Wait, what, like they imagine stuff?

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It's called hallucinating.

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Hallucinating, that sounds a little unsettling,

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especially when it comes to my money.

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I know, right?

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So how do we trust these things with our hard earned cash

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if they're seeing ghosts in the data?

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That's a good question, maybe they need AI therapy.

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Ha ha, maybe.

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But professor Lowe's team is actually working

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on something called fiduciary AI.

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Fiduciary AI, huh?

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Sounds fancy.

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Well, it's a big deal in finance.

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It basically means putting the client's interests first.

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Oh, like a financial advisor who actually cares about you,

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not just their commission.

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Exactly, and they're trying to teach these AI's

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to be like that.

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So how do you teach an AI to be ethical?

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It's pretty wild, they're feeding it,

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not just market data, but like the whole history

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of financial law.

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Whoa, like all the ways people have tried to cheat the system?

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Yep, all the shady stuff, so the AI can learn what not to do.

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Ha ha, so it's like giving the AI a crash course

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in financial crime.

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Exactly, so hopefully it learns to be the good guy.

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Wow, that's reassuring, but this is all

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still pretty experimental, right?

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Definitely, we're not going to have robot financial advisors

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giving us stock tips tomorrow.

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OK, good, because I'm not sure I'm ready for that yet.

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Me neither, but it's definitely something to think about.

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You know, what's really got me thinking

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is this whole thing about AI and risk management?

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Yeah, that's a big one.

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Like imagine an AI that could actually

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explain your risk to you.

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Not just spit out numbers, but like tell your story.

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Right, like hey, if the market crashes,

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here's what could happen to your portfolio

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and here's what you can do about it.

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Exactly, and not in some jargon-filled report,

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but in plain English.

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Yeah, like a financial therapist who also

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understands the market.

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Ha ha, I like that.

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And speaking of feelings, Professor Lowe's

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work on sentiment analysis is pretty mind-blowing.

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Oh yeah, the whole AI reading the market's emotions thing.

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Right, like is the market feeling greedy today or fearful?

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And it does that by analyzing news and social media.

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Exactly, it's picking up on the vibes, the whispers,

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the rumors.

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So it's like AI is eavesdropping on the market's gossip.

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Uh-huh, kinda.

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Even fake news can move markets, and AI

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could potentially spot those trends before they blow up.

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Do you think those big hedge funds are already using this?

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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised.

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Me neither.

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But Professor Lowe seems to think this tech will eventually

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be available to everyone.

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That would be a game changer for sure.

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Imagine having the same intel as the Wall Street bigwigs.

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Yeah, that'd be pretty sweet.

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But of course, there's got to be a downside, right?

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It's always, right.

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Professor Lowe keeps stressing we need more regulation,

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like yesterday.

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Why is that?

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He's worried about an AI arms race, basically.

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The bad guys using AI to gain the system even harder.

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Oh, like AI that helps you cheat on your taxes?

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So it's like a constant battle, the good AI versus the bad AI.

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Well, that sounds like a good cliffhanger for part two,

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don't you think?

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Yeah, definitely.

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More AI adventures to come.

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Stay tuned, folks.

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We'll be right back.

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OK, so back to AI in finance.

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Right, where we left off?

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Yeah, remember that whole AI arms race thing?

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Uh-oh, the good AI versus the bad AI.

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Who's winning?

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Well, Professor Lowe says we need to think about regulation,

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like yesterday.

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But wouldn't that stifle innovation

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like hold back all the cool AI stuff?

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He says it's about finding the right balance.

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OK, easier said than done.

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Right, but he makes a good point.

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If we don't set some ground rules now,

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things could get out of control later.

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That's true.

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Like with any new tech, they're always

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going to be unintended consequences.

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So it's better to be proactive than reactive.

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I guess that makes sense.

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But what kind of regulations are we even talking about?

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Well, he throws out a few ideas.

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First off, clear ethical guidelines

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for how AI is developed and used.

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So like a code of conduct for AI?

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you know, like fairness, transparency,

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all that good stuff.

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OK, I can get behind that.

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And then he's big on data privacy.

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So he's saying individuals should have control

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over their own financial data.

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Like the right to know how it's being used,

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who has access to it, all that.

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And the right to say no.

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OK, I can see why that's important,

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especially with all the data breaches happening.

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And then finally, he talks about the need

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for constant monitoring, auditing these AI systems.

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So like making sure they're not going rogue.

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Looking for any bias, errors, or unexpected consequences.

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running smoothly.

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Uh-huh, maybe.

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But seriously, we need some kind of oversight

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to keep things in check.

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It's like we're giving these AI so much power,

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we got to make sure they're using it for good.

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And that brings us back to that whole job thing.

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Will robots be taking our jobs?

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be automated, especially the ones that

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involve lots of repetitive tasks or data crunching.

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But he's also optimistic that AI will create new jobs

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in areas like AI development, data security, stuff like that.

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OK, so it's not all doom and gloom.

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It's more like a shift we got to adapt and learn new skills.

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Easier said than done for some people, though.

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And that's where education and retraining come in.

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So like going back to school to learn how to code?

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But Professor Lowe thinks AI can actually

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help with that too.

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tailor to your needs.

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Whoa, AI teaching is how to survive in the AI world.

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Kind of meta, right?

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But it makes sense.

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AI can analyze your skills, your strengths,

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and point you in the right direction.

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OK, that's actually pretty cool.

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I could see that being helpful.

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happens to be a supercomputer.

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Uh-huh, I like that.

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But even with all the new jobs and training,

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there's still going to be some bumps on the road.

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And that's a tough reality.

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And Professor Lowe acknowledges that.

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He says, policymakers need to step up and provide support.

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Things like job training programs, social safety nets.

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So it's not just about the tech.

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It's about the people too.

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We've got to make sure everyone benefits from this AI

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revolution, not just the tech giants.

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It's about creating a more equitable future for all.

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How will AI actually impact our everyday financial lives?

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OK, now we're getting to the good stuff,

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the stuff that affects our wallets.

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So Professor Lowe thinks AI has the potential

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to personalize financial services like never before.

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Like those robo-advisors everyone's talking about.

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like an AI that not only knows your financial data,

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but also understands your risk tolerance, your goals,

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even your emotional triggers when it comes to money.

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OK, now that's a little creepy, like AI reading my mind.

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But it could also be super helpful.

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Imagine an AI that nudges you to save more

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when you're about to splurge on something you don't need.

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that you're emotionally attached to.

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It's like having a personal finance guru in your pocket.

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I guess that could be pretty awesome.

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But again, what about privacy?

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Professor Lowe emphasizes the importance

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of transparency and control.

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Like you should always know how AI is being used

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and be able to opt out if you're not comfortable.

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So it's all about having choices,

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not being forced into using AI.

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It's about empowering individuals, giving them

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the tools to make informed decisions.

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Makes sense.

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But let's be real, most people don't even

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read those long privacy policies.

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That's why we need clear regulations and easy

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to understand explanations.

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OK, so back to regulation again.

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Yeah, it keeps coming up.

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So what else does Professor Lowe suggest?

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He's big on auditing these AI systems for bias,

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making sure they're not discriminating against certain groups.

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Oh, yeah, that's crucial.

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We don't want AI perpetuating existing inequalities.

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That sounds like a whole new field of expertise.

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It is actually.

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AI ethics is becoming a big deal.

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So it's not just about the tech itself.

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It's about the human values that we embed in it.

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Right.

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And that's why it's so important for everyone

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to be part of this conversation, not just the techies.

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OK, so what can we do besides reading up on AI and all that?

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Well, we can use our voices, contact our elected officials,

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let them know we care about this stuff.

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So like write letters, make phone calls.

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Yeah.

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And support organizations that are fighting

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for responsible AI spread the word on social media.

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Basically, make some noise.

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Exactly.

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The more people who speak up, the more likely

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we are to see real change.

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I like that.

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It's about taking action, not just sitting back

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and letting things happen.

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And you know what else Professor Lowe brings up?

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International collaboration.

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Oh, yeah.

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AI isn't bound by borders, is it?

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Nope.

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It's a global phenomenon, so we need global solutions.

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So like treaties or agreements between countries

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on how to develop AI ethically.

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Yeah.

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Something like that.

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We got to make sure everyone's on the same page.

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OK, that makes sense.

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But that seems even harder than just getting our own government

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to act.

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True.

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But it's essential.

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We can't solve this alone.

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It's a big challenge.

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But hopefully we can rise to the occasion.

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Yeah.

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It's about working together, finding common ground,

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and making sure AI benefits all of humanity,

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not just a select few.

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I'm feeling a little overwhelmed, to be honest.

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It's a lot to process, I know.

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But I also feel like this is important stuff.

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We got to talk about it.

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I agree.

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And you know what?

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We're not done yet.

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There's more to come.

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Wait, there's more.

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I thought this was part two.

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Uh-huh.

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There's always more to learn about AI.

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Oh boy.

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OK, bring it on.

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Stay tuned for part three, where we'll

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talk about what we can all do to make a difference.

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Don't go anywhere, folks.

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We'll be right back.

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OK, so we've covered a lot of ground here.

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Yeah, my brain is kind of fried.

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Mine too.

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But it's been fascinating, right?

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Totally.

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Like, I thought I knew a bit about AI,

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but this whole finance angle is crazy.

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Right.

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So much to think about.

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And so much at stake.

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Like, our jobs, our money, our privacy.

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Yeah, no pressure.

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Ha-ha, right.

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But OK, let's focus on what we can actually do about all this.

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Like, how can we make sure AI and finance is a good thing,

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not a scary thing?

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Well, I think the first step is just staying informed.

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OK, that makes sense.

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Knowledge is power and all that.

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Exactly.

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The more we understand about AI, what it can do,

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what it can do, the better equipped

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we are to advocate for responsible development.

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So like, where do we even start?

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Any good resources out there?

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Oh, yeah, tons.

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Like, MIT's Computer Science and AI Lab,

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they've got a website with articles, videos, even

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online courses.

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Cool, I'll check that out.

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And there's this group called the Future of Life Institute.

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They're focused on the ethical side of AI, not just in finance.

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Oh, yeah, I've heard of it.

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They're the ones who got all those tech big wigs

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to sign that open letter, right?

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Exactly.

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They're doing some really important work.

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OK, so we can educate ourselves.

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But what else can we do to actually make a difference?

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Well, we can use our voices, contact our elected officials,

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telling we care about this stuff.

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So like, write letters, make phone calls, all that.

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And support organizations that are fighting for responsible AI.

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Donate, volunteer, spread the word on social media.

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OK, so basically, be loud and be active.

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Uh-huh, pretty much.

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Every little bit helps.

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I like that it's empowering.

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We're not just helpless bystanders in this whole AI revolution.

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Exactly.

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We can actually shape the future.

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That's a great way to put it.

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So it's not just about building better AI.

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It's about building a better society that can use AI for good.

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Totally.

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And you know what else we need to do?

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What's that?

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Talk to each other.

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I have conversations about this stuff with our friends,

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our family, our colleagues.

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Yeah, I get people thinking about the implications,

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the potential benefits, and risks.

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Right, because the more we talk about it,

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the more likely we are to make good decisions as a society.

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That's so true.

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Like, we can't just leave it up to the experts

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to figure this all out.

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Exactly.

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We all have a role to play.

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Well, I'm feeling a lot more hopeful now,

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knowing that we're not alone in this.

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Me too.

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It's a big challenge, but it's also an incredible opportunity.

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Yeah, to really shape the future.

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Not just for ourselves, but for generations to come.

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That's right.

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And you know, that's what's so exciting about this whole AI

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thing.

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It's not just about technology.

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It's about what kind of world we want to create.

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I love that.

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It's a reminder that we're all in this together.

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Totally.

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We got to work together, learn from each other,

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and make sure AI is a force for good.

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Well said.

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On that note, I think it's time to wrap up this deep dive.

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Yeah, I think we've covered just about everything.

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Huge thanks to Professor Low for sharing his insights with us.

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Yeah, he's a real visionary.

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And to our listeners, thanks for joining us on this journey

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into the world of AI and finance.

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It's been a blast exploring this stuff with you.

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We'll be back soon with more deep dives

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into the topics that matter most.

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Until then, stay curious, stay informed, and stay engaged.

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And remember, the future is what we make it.

