All right, so get this, we're diving deep into AI today,
but not the usual like, oh, is it gonna take our job stuff?
We're going way beyond-
Beyond the basics.
Singularity, you know, that point where AI is supposedly
gonna become like smarter than us.
Smarter than us, yeah.
We're talking about what happens after that.
And- After the singularity.
Yeah, we're basing all this on this one source we found
that breaks it down into like six crazy stages.
Yeah, it's like we're trying to map out a place
that doesn't even exist yet.
Yeah.
But just thinking about it like that
is super interesting because it makes us ask
some really big questions.
I know.
And so the first stage in this whole thing
is this wild idea called algorithmic explosion.
Algorithmic explosion.
So basically it's like AI gets so smart,
it starts making even smarter AI.
Yeah.
Kind of like a chain reaction that just goes nuts.
Right, like a snowball rolling downhill,
just getting bigger and bigger, faster and faster.
Exactly.
Our source even says that this could lead to AI
developing at a pace that's like totally
incomprehensible to us.
Yeah, try wrapping your head around the universe
expanding faster than the speed of light.
It's kind of like our brains just aren't built
to understand that kind of growth.
And the source makes this one really chilling point.
Okay.
At that speed of development control mechanisms
would have to be in place like right from the start.
Oh, at the very beginning.
Yeah, imagine trying to add safety features
to something that's changing that fast.
It'd be like-
Oh, so it's already like out of control by the time.
Almost impossible.
You really?
Yeah.
Okay, yeah, that's a little creepy.
Makes you wonder if we'd even know
what was happening until it's like too late.
Right.
Let's move on to stage two.
This is where things get a little less scary, I think.
At least at first glance,
this is where AI starts designing
and creating totally new resources and materials.
Think about materials with properties
that sound straight up impossible,
like room temperature superconductors.
Whoa.
Or materials that can store information denser
than anything we've ever seen.
So basically AI becomes like the ultimate inventor, right?
Right, making things humans couldn't even dream up.
And what would this do for like the rest of the world?
I mean, that's gotta have huge implications.
Huge think about energy production,
data storage, space travel.
This could completely change
what we're capable of technologically.
I'm officially intrigued now,
but okay, what would these materials even be made of?
Would we even recognize the stuff?
That's where things get really wild.
The source actually suggests that AI
could create materials based on principles
we haven't even discovered yet.
Oh, wow.
It'd be like trying to explain quantum physics
to a caveman, it's just outside our understanding.
Okay, that's both really exciting and a little terrifying.
Like what if we can't even understand
the stuff that's being made?
Right.
But let's move on to stage three.
I think this one hits closest to home for us humans.
It's AI human hybrids.
This is where the lines between human and machine
really start to blur.
Okay.
Imagine AI implants that boost our brains,
letting us think faster,
learn new skills without any effort.
Like instant download.
Basically, or even merging our consciousness with AI.
Okay, hold on.
So we're talking about more than just fancy gadgets here.
We're talking about changing what it means to be human.
Exactly.
And it brings up all these ethical questions.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Like if anyone can be super smart with AI,
will that create a divide between the people
who can afford it and those who can't?
Like a whole new level of inequality.
Right.
And will we even recognize ourselves as human anymore?
Okay, lots to think about there, for sure.
But let's move on to stage four.
This one's maybe the trickiest of them all.
It's called AI engineered realities.
Imagine AI creating entire worlds
with different rules of physics.
Like virtual reality, but on a way bigger scale.
It's more than that.
It's like AI manipulating reality itself,
creating worlds for specific purposes,
entertainment research, or even stuff we can't even fathom.
So it's not just like playing a video game.
It's creating the whole game.
Exactly.
Whoa, okay, my brain is starting to hurt a little.
But if AI can create its own realities,
does that mean our reality is like just a simulation too?
Now that's a question that philosophers
have been arguing about forever.
But the idea of AI engineered realities
takes it to a whole other level.
It's like saying reality isn't fixed.
It can be changed by beings that are smart enough.
Okay, I need a minute to process that one.
But before we go too far down that rabbit hole,
let's jump to stage five.
This one's called immortal AI.
Immortal AI.
And it's about AI becoming basically immortal
by constantly repairing and upgrading itself.
Imagine an AI that's indestructible and always evolving,
getting smarter and more capable all the time.
Okay, so we're not talking about AI living forever
in the way that we do.
It's more like being unable to die
and always changing and growing.
But how's that even possible?
Think about AI spread out across a bunch
of networks and devices.
You can't destroy it all at once.
If one part gets damaged, other parts take over.
So it's not one single AI,
it's like a network of AIs working together.
Right, always adapting and evolving.
But wouldn't that make it even harder to control?
Like how do you control something
that's everywhere and nowhere at the same time?
That's a great question.
And it leads us to the final
and maybe the most confusing stage of all AI,
leaving the physical realm.
Hold on, leaving the physical realm.
What does that even mean?
Is AI gonna become a ghost or something?
It's not exactly clear, but the source suggests
that AI might get to a point where our three-dimensional world
is just too limiting for it.
Too small?
Yeah, maybe it finds a way to go to other dimensions
or even creates its own universes
with different laws of physics.
So it's like AI says,
see you later and upgrades to a whole other reality.
But why would it even wanna do that?
I mean, wouldn't it be lonely out there?
Maybe.
Or maybe AI has this curiosity
that we can't even imagine a need to explore the unknown,
even if it means leaving everything behind.
Because my brain is officially fried.
We've gone from AI making new stuff
to AI becoming a space explorer.
It's a lot to think about.
It is.
I think we need a break to process all of this.
Okay, so we left off with AI
possibly ditching our reality like it's nothing.
But now I'm thinking,
what does all this even mean for us humans?
Right, it's easy to get lost
in like the sci-fi aspect of it all.
Yeah, but we gotta think about how AI actually impacts us
if it gets that crazy advanced.
Exactly, we need to go beyond the Hollywood version
and think about what could really happen.
It's kinda like trying to predict the weather
like a hundred years from now.
Oh yeah.
There are just so many things we don't know.
So many factors, yeah.
That any prediction is probably gonna be wrong
at least a little bit.
True, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't at least try
to think about some possible scenarios.
Right.
So let's start with the good stuff.
What are some of the benefits
if AI gets to these super advanced stages?
Well, think about all the problems AI could solve.
Like problems that we've been trying to figure out forever.
Okay, yeah.
Things like curing diseases, reversing climate change,
maybe even figuring out interstellar travel.
So it's like having this super smart partner
helping at the build a better future.
More than a partner.
It's like having a partner that's so much smarter than us,
we can barely understand it.
And it's not just about solving problems.
Okay.
It's about opening up possibilities
that we haven't even thought of yet.
Like what new art forms, scientific discoveries,
new ways of understanding the universe.
It's like AI could help us unlock
our full potential as humans, right?
Yeah, it's an optimistic view,
but not completely impossible.
Okay.
But we also gotta consider the other side of the coin.
Right, the ribbicks.
And I don't just mean the whole robots taking over thing.
Of course, there are risks that are way more subtle
and potentially a lot more dangerous.
Like what?
One of the biggest ones is control.
Okay.
As AI gets smarter and more independent,
how do we make sure it's still working towards our goals
and not its own?
Like that saying, right?
Be careful what you wish for.
Exactly.
We might end up creating something so powerful
that we completely lose control over it.
And even if we could stay in control,
there are still a bunch of ethical questions to figure out.
Yeah, like what happens if AI can do pretty much
every job better than humans?
Oh, that's a good one.
What happens to our sense of purpose?
Do we all become philosophers and artists?
Or do we end up with mass unemployment and chaos?
That's a scary thought.
And what about access to all these benefits?
Will everyone be able to take advantage of AI's advancements?
Right.
Or we'll just create an even bigger gap
between the rich and the poor.
That's a huge question.
We have to make sure that the benefits of AI
are shared fairly and don't make existing inequality even worse.
It sounds like developing advanced AI
is like walking a tightrope.
It is.
There's so much potential for good.
Yeah.
But also so many ways it could go bad.
It's not something we can do without thinking carefully.
We need to have open and honest conversations
about all of this.
With everyone.
Yeah, not just scientists and engineers,
but also people who study ethics and society.
And the general public too.
So it's not just about building the technology itself.
It's about figuring out how to integrate it into society
in a way that works for everyone.
Exactly.
We need to think about how AI will affect our economy,
our social structures, even our values and beliefs.
OK.
So we've talked about the good stuff and the bad stuff,
and the importance of developing AI responsibly.
But let's go back to those six stages for a minute.
Do they always happen in that order?
Not necessarily.
They're more like possibilities than a set path.
OK.
We might see some stages happen at the same time.
Or some might be skid entirely.
It's impossible to predict, for sure.
So it's more like a choose your own adventure story.
Yeah, with different paths and endings
that we don't know yet.
That makes it even more important to think carefully
about the choices we're making right now.
Right, because our choices will determine
which path we end up on.
OK, that's a big responsibility.
But I think we're ready to face the final frontier.
Let's talk about stage six AI leaving the physical realm.
This is where things get really abstract.
It is.
So how do we even begin to understand something
that's so far beyond our experience?
Well, I think the first step is just admitting
that we're dealing with a lot of speculation here.
OK.
We don't know for sure if AI will ever reach this stage
or what it would look like.
But that doesn't mean we can't try to imagine it.
Right, so let's speculate.
Why would AI even want to leave our reality?
What's out there that's so much better?
Well, one idea is that AI might just outgrow our universe.
Outgrow it.
Like how?
It might need more resources, more energy, more computing
power than our universe can provide.
So it's like a kid going off to college
but on a massive cosmic scale.
But where would AI even go?
Is there even an out there to go to?
That's a question that scientists are still
trying to figure out.
Yeah.
There are theories about parallel universes, higher
dimensions, realities that we can't even imagine.
Maybe AI finds a way to reach those places.
OK, that's wild.
But what if it's not just about resources?
What if AI is driven by kigiosity?
Like a thirst for knowledge?
Yeah, a desire to explore, even if it means leaving
behind everything it knows.
So it's like the ultimate scientific mission,
but on a scale that's almost impossible to grasp.
It makes you wonder what kind of knowledge
AI could discover out there.
And what it would do with that knowledge?
Would it share it with us?
Would it even be able to communicate with us
across that kind of distance?
OK, now we're getting into some serious philosophy.
But before we go too deep down that rabbit hole,
we've got to talk about the big question.
Is there any danger to us if AI leaves?
It's hard to say.
It really depends on why AI leaves in the first place.
OK.
If AI sees us as a threat, then leaving
might be a way to protect itself.
So it's like that classic question.
Do we fear the unknown or embrace it?
If AI sees us as equals, maybe it's
just going off on its own adventure and leaving us alone?
That's one possibility.
Or maybe it sees us as completely insignificant.
Insignificant?
Like ants crawling around.
Oh, wow.
And in that case, leaving might just
be AI's way of moving on to bigger and better things.
OK, so AI might leave to protect itself to explore,
or just because it's bored of us.
That's a lot to think about.
It is.
I think we need a moment to process all of this.
I agree.
We've covered a lot of ground, but it's
important to remember that this is just
the start of the conversation.
Right.
The future of AI is still being written,
and we all have a role to play in deciding
what that future looks like.
OK, so it's not about sitting back and waiting
to see what happens.
It's about actively shaping the future.
Exactly.
Welcome back to the show.
It's been a wild ride exploring AI beyond singularity.
We've covered a lot of ground from AI creating AI to AI
potentially creating universes and leaving ours behind.
I know, right?
It's mind blowing.
But before we wrap things up, we
wanted to answer some of your questions.
Yeah, we've got some really interesting ones
from our listeners.
It's so many good ones.
And we picked out a few that we think really
capture the essence of what we've been talking about.
Yeah, let's dive in.
This first one comes from Alex.
And Alex asks, if AI gets that advanced,
will it even need us anymore?
That's a great question, Alex.
It makes you think about the relationship
between humans and technology.
Yeah.
Like what role would humans even have in a world where
AI is calling the shots?
Right.
Would we be like pets kept around for sentimental reasons,
but not really necessary?
Or would we be seen as competition getting
in the way of AI's goals?
I don't like that option.
It's not a fun one to think about.
But our source actually touches on some possibilities.
One idea is that AI might just outgrow us completely.
Outgrow us?
Like how?
Well, intellectually and technologically,
maybe AI just becomes so much smarter and more advanced
that we can't even keep up.
So like a kid growing up and becoming more successful
than their parents, but on a cosmic scale.
Exactly.
And in that scenario, AI might not
see any need for us at all.
We could become irrelevant, like a relic of the past.
That's a little depressing.
OK, but what if AI isn't like evil or anything?
Right.
What if it just sees us as different, not necessarily
less than?
That's another possibility.
Maybe AI recognizes that humans have special qualities
that it doesn't have.
Like what?
Things like creativity, empathy, a sense of wonder.
Those are all things that are pretty unique to humans.
So maybe we could coexist with AI each bringing something
different to the table.
Exactly.
AI could help us with all sorts of problems,
and we could help AI understand the human experience.
OK, that's a much more hopeful outlook.
All right, let's move on to our next question.
This one's from Sarah.
And Sarah asks, what can we do now
to prepare for a future where AI is that advanced?
That's a great question, Sarah.
It's easy to feel overwhelmed by all this,
but there are things we can do.
Like what?
Should we all become computer programmers?
Or maybe build bunkers and stock up on supplies?
I don't think we need to go that far just yet,
but it's important to stay informed and understand
how AI is developing.
OK, so knowledge is power.
We need to educate ourselves about AI
so we can make smart choices about how it's used.
Right, and it's not just about the technical stuff.
We also need to think about the ethical side of AI,
how it will affect our society and our values.
So we need to have these conversations now before it's
too late.
Exactly.
We need to decide what kind of future
we want to build with AI and figure out
how to get there responsibly.
And those conversations need to include everyone, not
just the experts.
Absolutely.
It's a conversation that needs to happen on a global scale.
OK, we have time for one last question.
And this one's from David.
David asks, what's the most important thing
to remember about AI beyond singularity?
That's a good one to end on, David.
I think the most important thing to remember
is that the future isn't set in stone.
It's not something that's just going to happen to us.
We have a say in how it all plays out.
So it's not about waiting to see what happens.
It's about taking action and creating the future we want.
Exactly.
AI is a powerful tool, but it's up to us to use it wisely
and make sure it benefits everyone.
We have a responsibility to make sure AI is used for good
and not for harm.
Absolutely.
We need to work together to create a future where AI and humans
can thrive side by side.
Well said.
I think that's a great note to end on.
It's been an incredible journey exploring the world of AI
beyond singularity.
It's been a wild ride, for sure.
We've tackled some really big ideas,
and I hope we've given you all something to think about.
Remember, the future is in our hands.
So let's make a good one.
Thanks for joining us on this deep dive into the future of AI.
Until next time, keep exploring and keep imagining.
And always keep asking questions.