1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,840 Okay, so everybody knows Huawei, right? 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:03,640 Like they make smartphones, but get this, 3 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,280 they're jumping into the world of GPUs. 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,120 Wow. 5 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,400 Those chips that power everything 6 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,120 from like the sickest video games 7 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:12,640 to like crazy complex AI. 8 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:13,480 Yeah. 9 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,240 We're talking about like going right after the biggest name 10 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,120 in the business in Vidya. 11 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,760 It's definitely a big move for sure. 12 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,800 So I don't think most people really understand 13 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,440 like what a GPU is. 14 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,280 Right. 15 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,120 Can you break that down for us? 16 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,800 Yeah, so GPU stands for Graphics Processing Unit. 17 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,040 And it's basically the brains behind all visual computing. 18 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:31,880 Okay. 19 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,000 So when you're looking at those like crazy graphics 20 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,400 and video games, it's the GPU that's doing all the heavy lifting. 21 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,320 Oh, okay. 22 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,720 But it's not just games anymore. 23 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,560 Yeah. 24 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,880 GPUs are also becoming super important for things like AI 25 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,840 and machine learning, which are like changing the game 26 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,560 in so many different industries. 27 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,000 Okay, so speaking of changing the game, 28 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,400 and Vidya has been on top for a while now. 29 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,800 Yeah, they've been the king for a while. 30 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,320 So what's their secret? 31 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Well, I think it's a few things. 32 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,640 Okay. 33 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,200 They make super powerful hardware. 34 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,040 Right. 35 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,280 But they've also built this incredible software ecosystem 36 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,120 around it. 37 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Okay. 38 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,800 It's like, think of it like this, 39 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,320 like imagine you buy a super car. 40 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:07,440 Okay. 41 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,560 But there are no roads to drive it on. 42 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,040 That's what it would be like to have a GPU 43 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,920 without like good software to support it. 44 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,000 So for example, in Vidya has this platform called CUDA. 45 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Right. 46 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,080 And it's become like the industry standard 47 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,160 for a lot of developers working in like AI 48 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,240 or scientific computing. 49 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,960 Yeah, CUDA, that sounds familiar. 50 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:27,800 I've heard that before. 51 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:28,640 Yeah. 52 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,760 So is Huawei trying to make like their own version of CUDA? 53 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,240 Well, not exactly. 54 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,080 Okay. 55 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,160 I don't think they're gonna like directly compete 56 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,040 with Nvidia's ecosystem. 57 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Instead, they're kind of focusing on specific areas 58 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,600 where they see a chance to do something different. 59 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,080 So like picking their battles. 60 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:43,920 Yeah, exactly. 61 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,120 Instead of trying to win the whole war. 62 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,960 Exactly. 63 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:46,800 They're looking at it saying, 64 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,240 okay, where can we make a difference? 65 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,720 Where can we offer something unique? 66 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:50,560 Got it. 67 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,240 And one of those areas is in training large scale AI models. 68 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Okay, so break that down for me. 69 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,120 So think of those like huge AI models 70 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,000 that power like self-driving cars 71 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,920 or that analyze medical images. 72 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,760 Right. 73 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,000 Those models need massive amounts of data 74 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,800 and processing power to train. 75 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:08,640 Okay. 76 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:10,080 And that's where Huawei is trying to make a splash 77 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,400 with their new GPU. 78 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,240 Oh, okay. 79 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,080 The Ascend 920C. 80 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,920 Okay, so let's get into this Ascend 920C. 81 00:02:14,920 --> 00:02:15,760 Okay. 82 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,600 What's the deal? 83 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,880 Is it just another GPU or are they doing something 84 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,320 like totally radical with this? 85 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,880 Well, this is where it gets really interesting. 86 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:21,720 Okay. 87 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,360 They actually designed this whole new architecture 88 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,680 from the ground up, 89 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,960 specifically optimized for like AI and machine learning. 90 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,800 Wow. 91 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,520 It's like they built a Formula One race car 92 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,680 for the AI track. 93 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:32,520 Okay. 94 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,600 While Nvidia is still using like a modified street car. 95 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,440 Got it. 96 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Both can get around the track, 97 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,360 but the race car is designed for pure speed and efficiency. 98 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,480 Okay, I love that analogy. 99 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:41,960 So it's not just about raw power, 100 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,760 it's about using that power efficiently for the right task. 101 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,600 Exactly. 102 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Okay. 103 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,520 And the early benchmarks suggest 104 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,520 that's Huawei might be onto something. 105 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,840 They're saying the Ascend 920C can handle 106 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,520 these massive AI workloads much faster 107 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,080 than Nvidia's top chips. 108 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:57,920 Hold on. 109 00:02:57,920 --> 00:02:59,920 Are you saying they're saying they can beat Nvidia 110 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:02,200 in the area where Nvidia is supposed to be the... 111 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,360 That's exactly what they're saying. 112 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Whoa. 113 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,880 And some early tests seem to back it up. 114 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:06,720 Really? 115 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Of course we'll need to see more tests 116 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,320 in like real world applications. 117 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,140 Sure. 118 00:03:10,140 --> 00:03:12,640 To know for sure, but it's definitely a big statement. 119 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:13,480 Yeah. 120 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:14,480 That's definitely getting people's attention. 121 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,320 For sure. 122 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,160 Okay. 123 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,640 So, but let's talk about the elephant in the room here. 124 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:18,480 Sure. 125 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,000 The US sanctions against Huawei. 126 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,840 Yeah. 127 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,400 Like how are they making cutting edge chips 128 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,400 like this with those restrictions in place? 129 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,800 I mean, it's a real testament to their commitment 130 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:27,640 to innovation. 131 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:28,480 Yeah. 132 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,400 Even with all these challenges, 133 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,520 they've been investing heavily in chip manufacturing, 134 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,400 develop on their own technologies 135 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,800 to not have to rely on foreign suppliers. 136 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,740 Though they're not just competing in the GPU market. 137 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:40,560 They're trying to become more self-sufficient. 138 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,400 Yeah. 139 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,600 It's a multi-layered story for sure. 140 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Yeah. 141 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,720 And it's impressive that they can develop 142 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,120 this level of technology while dealing with all that. 143 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:47,960 It really is. 144 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,800 Yeah. 145 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,640 Okay. 146 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,120 So we've talked about AI, but what about gaming? 147 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,720 Are they going after Nvidia's GeForce line too? 148 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,000 Well, their main focus is AI for sure. 149 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:56,840 Okay. 150 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,760 But they're not ignoring gamers. 151 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:58,600 Okay. 152 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,320 The Ascent 920C has some cool features for gaming. 153 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Okay. 154 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,520 Like AI powered rendering. 155 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Hmm. 156 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,680 That could make visuals even better. 157 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:06,520 Hold on. 158 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,180 Are they saying they can make games look better 159 00:04:08,180 --> 00:04:10,120 than Nvidia's RTX cards? 160 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,480 Well, they're definitely hinting at that. 161 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,980 They're talking about using AI to create 162 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:16,760 more realistic lighting and shadows and reflections. 163 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:17,600 Okay. 164 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,640 And even generate like whole scenes or characters 165 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,560 in real time. 166 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,400 Okay. 167 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,280 Now that is straight out of a sci-fi movie, AI 168 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:27,720 creating game worlds in real time. 169 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,560 Pretty wild. 170 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,400 That's crazy. 171 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,240 Yeah. 172 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,080 But let's be real here. 173 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,920 Yeah. 174 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,040 They're entering a market where everyone knows Nvidia. 175 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:34,880 Right. 176 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Like gamers are loyal to their brands. 177 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,240 Yeah. 178 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,080 How are they going to break through? 179 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,280 Well, they're taking a page from their smartphone playbook. 180 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:41,120 Okay. 181 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,960 How so? 182 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,800 Focusing on affordability. 183 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,640 Oh, okay. 184 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:44,680 They're aiming to offer similar performance 185 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,720 to Nvidia's high-end GPUs. 186 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,560 Okay. 187 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:48,600 But at a much lower price. 188 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,560 So like the bang for your buck approach. 189 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,400 Exactly. 190 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,520 Appealing to gamers who want the best performance 191 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,040 but don't want to spend a fortune. 192 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:56,880 Exactly. 193 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,880 And that worked really well for them with smartphones. 194 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:59,720 It did. 195 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,680 It'll be interesting to see if it works in the gaming world. 196 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Yeah, for sure. 197 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,120 I'm already seeing how this could shake things up. 198 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:04,960 Definitely. 199 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:05,960 But there's so much more to this story. 200 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,160 We've only stretched the surface. 201 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,000 Yeah, for sure. 202 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Like what happens if hallway actually challenges 203 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,520 Nvidia's dominance? 204 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,080 What does that mean for the whole tech world? 205 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,120 That's a great question. 206 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:14,960 Yeah. 207 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:15,960 And that's exactly what we're going to explore 208 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,480 in part two of this deep dive. 209 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,320 Okay. 210 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,160 I'm hooked. 211 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,080 This is already one of the most interesting deep dives 212 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:20,920 we've done. 213 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:21,760 I think so too. 214 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,360 So listeners get ready to go even deeper 215 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,560 into the world of GPUs and AI. 216 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,400 It definitely. 217 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,600 And global tech rivalries in part two. 218 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,440 It's going to be. 219 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,960 We'll be right back. 220 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,280 Okay, so we're back and ready to keep digging 221 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:36,000 into this whole Huawei GPU thing. 222 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,720 Last time we were talking about like what happens 223 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,520 if they actually challenge Nvidia. 224 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,360 Right. 225 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,760 What could that mean for the whole tech world? 226 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,320 Yeah, that's the big question, isn't it? 227 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,160 Yeah, it is. 228 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,000 It's kind of like dropping a pebble in a pond. 229 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,160 The ripple spread out and the effects can be felt 230 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,400 like way beyond that initial impact. 231 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,000 So where do we even start? 232 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,160 Well, one of the most immediate things would be 233 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,320 like the effect on the industry itself. 234 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,160 Okay. 235 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,200 Like more competition is almost always a good thing 236 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,040 for consumers. 237 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,560 Yeah, like that saying, a rising tide lifts all boats. 238 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,400 Exactly. 239 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,320 Everyone wins when there's good competition. 240 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,160 Right. 241 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,880 And especially in tech where everything's changing so fast. 242 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:10,720 Yeah. 243 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,880 That competition is what keeps pushing the boundaries 244 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,120 of what's possible. 245 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,680 But it's not just out like faster chips and cheaper prices. 246 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:19,600 No, definitely not. 247 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,800 There's a bigger picture here, 248 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,000 especially with like all the geopolitics involved. 249 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:23,840 Absolutely. 250 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:26,600 Huawei's pushed to make their own chips and AI hardware. 251 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Right. 252 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,400 It's all part of China's big plan to become a leader in tech. 253 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,240 Right. 254 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,800 So if Huawei wins, it's a win for China too. 255 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,320 Yeah, you could definitely see it that way. 256 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,560 And that's kind of freaking out the US 257 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,760 and other Western countries. 258 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:38,600 Really? 259 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,840 Yeah, they see Huawei's success as a threat 260 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:42,400 to their own tech dominance. 261 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,320 So this is about more than just like money in market share. 262 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,160 Oh yeah. 263 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,280 It's like a tech arms race. 264 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:49,360 It's definitely got that element to it for sure. 265 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,200 Wow. 266 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,480 Control over these technologies is super important these days. 267 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,320 Right. 268 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,760 It affects everything from national security 269 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,840 to like how competitive a country is economically. 270 00:06:57,840 --> 00:06:59,720 This is starting to sound like a spy movie or something. 271 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:00,760 It is pretty wild. 272 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,240 Okay, but let's zoom out for a second 273 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,440 and think about the average person. 274 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,280 Okay. 275 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:08,040 How does all this affect like our everyday lives? 276 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,880 Well, on the one hand, 277 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,120 it could lead to some amazing advancements 278 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,600 that benefit everyone. 279 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Okay, like what? 280 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Like imagine faster medical breakthroughs. 281 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Okay. 282 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,480 More efficient transportation systems. 283 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,320 Right. 284 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,760 Or even like personalized education 285 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,920 toiler to how you learn best. 286 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,520 Okay, that sounds amazing. 287 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,120 Personalized education. 288 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:27,960 Yeah. 289 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:28,800 Sign me up. 290 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,080 But of course there are always potential downsides. 291 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Right, like what? 292 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,040 One of the big worries is like jobs being replaced by AI. 293 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,480 Yeah, I've heard about that. 294 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,040 Like AI taking over jobs. 295 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,200 Yeah, as AI gets more sophisticated, 296 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,920 it could start doing a lot of the jobs that people do now. 297 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,840 And it's not just like factory jobs 298 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,120 or truck drivers, right? 299 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:47,960 No, not at all. 300 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,880 AI is already being used in like finance and law. 301 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Exactly. 302 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:52,560 Wow. 303 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,680 And that raises all sorts of ethical questions. 304 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,520 Like what? 305 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,160 Like how do we make sure AI is used ethically? 306 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,000 Right. 307 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,040 And doesn't just make existing inequalities worse. 308 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:01,880 Yeah. 309 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,040 How do we protect people's privacy? 310 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,880 Right. 311 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,160 Make sure their data isn't being misused. 312 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,640 These are big questions. 313 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,480 They are. 314 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,000 And we need to be thinking about them now. 315 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:09,840 Absolutely. 316 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,080 Not waiting until it's too late. 317 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,920 We need to have these conversations now. 318 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Yeah. 319 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,200 And we need to have everyone ethicists, policy makers, 320 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,040 the public. 321 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,160 So it's not just about the technology. 322 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,080 It's about the impact it has on society. 323 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:20,920 Exactly. 324 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:21,760 OK. 325 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,200 And one thing I find really interesting 326 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,400 is what this could mean for scientific research. 327 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,240 OK. 328 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Like if powerful GPUs become more affordable, 329 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,440 it could give smaller research labs and universities 330 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,360 the ability to do groundbreaking experiments, 331 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,680 analyze huge data sets that they couldn't access before. 332 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:41,120 So it could actually make scientific discovery 333 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,680 more accessible to everyone. 334 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:43,520 Exactly. 335 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,120 It's like giving everyone the tools 336 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,440 to explore the universe. 337 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,480 I love that idea. 338 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:47,800 Yeah. 339 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,360 It's exciting. 340 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:48,640 OK. 341 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,120 But let's get back to Huawei for a minute. 342 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:50,360 OK. 343 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,240 They have a long way to go if they really 344 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,360 want to take on Nvidia. 345 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,280 Yeah, they do. 346 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,480 What are the biggest challenges they face? 347 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:57,960 Well, like we talked about before, 348 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,840 the US sanctions are a huge obstacle. 349 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:00,200 Right. 350 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,200 They're still in place. 351 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:01,360 Yeah. 352 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,560 They've found ways to work around them. 353 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:06,680 But it's a constant struggle to get the components they need. 354 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:07,320 Yeah. 355 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,040 And the manufacturing capacity. 356 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:09,320 Right. 357 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,600 It's like running a marathon with weights on your ankles. 358 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Exactly. 359 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,320 But even if they get past that, they still 360 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,440 have to build a whole ecosystem around their GPUs. 361 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,280 That's exactly right. 362 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Like Nvidia's success isn't just about their hardware. 363 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:21,480 Nope. 364 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,680 It's about everything they've built around it. 365 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:23,920 Right. 366 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,360 The software, the developers, the partnership. 367 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,640 It's a huge advantage for Nvidia. 368 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:28,240 Yeah. 369 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,360 And Huawei needs to figure out how to catch up. 370 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,520 So they need to make great hardware, 371 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,200 but also convince developers and gamers 372 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,560 to use their platform. 373 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:37,280 The tall order. 374 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,760 It sounds like a huge challenge. 375 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:39,080 It is. 376 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,800 But Huawei is known for being pretty tenacious. 377 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,360 They are. 378 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,960 They've surprised people before. 379 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:44,200 Yeah. 380 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,520 So I wouldn't count them out. 381 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,640 Never underestimate them. 382 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:46,880 OK. 383 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,240 So let's shift gears a bit and talk about gaming. 384 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:49,680 OK. 385 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:53,520 We've talked about some of the features of the SN920C. 386 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,240 But can they really compete with Nvidia and AMD 387 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,600 in the gaming world? 388 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:58,800 Yeah. 389 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,720 That's the big question for gamers, isn't it? 390 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,000 Yeah. 391 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,560 The specs look good on paper. 392 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:03,240 OK. 393 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,720 But the gaming world is tough. 394 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,200 Right. 395 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,360 Gamers are passionate. 396 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:06,840 Yeah. 397 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,000 And they expect a lot. 398 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:08,960 High standards. 399 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:09,280 Yeah. 400 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,280 When it comes to performance and graphics 401 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,920 and just the whole experience. 402 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,920 So what does Huawei need to do to win over gamers? 403 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,000 It's a tricky balance. 404 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:17,200 OK. 405 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,560 Obviously performance is key. 406 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:19,000 Right. 407 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Gamers want smooth frame rates and amazing visuals. 408 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:22,640 Yeah. 409 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,400 And no lag. 410 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,160 But it's also about the whole package, the software, 411 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,520 the drivers, the community, the games. 412 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,160 All of that matters. 413 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,680 It's not just about the specs. 414 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:30,920 Nope. 415 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,840 It's about how it all comes together in the actual game. 416 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,360 Exactly. 417 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,720 And that's where Huawei has a tough road ahead. 418 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:37,080 Yeah. 419 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,480 Nvidia and AMD have a huge head start. 420 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:39,840 Right. 421 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,600 They spent years building relationships 422 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,080 with game developers, optimizing their drivers, 423 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,760 building a loyal fan base. 424 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:46,880 It's going to be hard to catch up. 425 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,600 So how do they even start? 426 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,000 Well, they're trying to be strategic. 427 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:50,240 OK. 428 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:50,760 How so? 429 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,360 One thing they're doing is partnering with game developers. 430 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:53,840 OK. 431 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,160 Giving them incentives to optimize their games 432 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,480 for Huawei's hardware. 433 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:57,840 OK. 434 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,640 They're also investing in their own gaming ecosystem, 435 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,080 making tools and resources for developers 436 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,520 to make it easier to bring games to their platform. 437 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,000 So trying to make it easy for developers to work with them. 438 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:08,440 Exactly. 439 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,400 But what about the gamers themselves? 440 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:10,520 Right. 441 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,120 How are they going to attract players? 442 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,480 Well, they're focusing on two things. 443 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:13,880 OK. 444 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,760 Affordability. 445 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:15,240 Right. 446 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,280 And innovation. 447 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:16,680 OK. 448 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:18,440 Like we talked about before, they're 449 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,920 aiming to offer similar performance to Nvidia and AMD, 450 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:23,880 but at a lower price. 451 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:24,520 OK. 452 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,560 And they're also really pushing the AI-powered features. 453 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:27,880 Yeah. 454 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Promising more realistic graphics, 455 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,840 a more immersive experience. 456 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:32,320 Right. 457 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,160 Even new ways to play games using AI. 458 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,800 So they're trying to appeal to both budget-conscious gamers 459 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,720 and the hardcore enthusiasts. 460 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Exactly. 461 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,640 Trying to cover all the bases. 462 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,040 It's a bold strategy. 463 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:43,480 It is. 464 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,880 We'll have to see if it pays off. 465 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:45,520 Time will tell. 466 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,040 But they're definitely shaking things up. 467 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:47,480 Oh, yeah. 468 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,160 We'll be keeping an eye on this, for sure. 469 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:49,840 Definitely. 470 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:50,080 OK. 471 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,920 So beyond the marketing and the hype, 472 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,400 what are the real implications of Huawei entering 473 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,360 the gaming market? 474 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:57,680 Yeah. 475 00:11:57,680 --> 00:12:00,680 Could this really change the whole gaming landscape? 476 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:02,760 I think that's what's so fascinating about this. 477 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:03,080 Yeah. 478 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,800 It's not just a new GPU. 479 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:05,320 Right. 480 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,920 It's about how it could change the way 481 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,800 we play and experience games. 482 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,560 So it's not just about better graphics. 483 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:11,840 Nope. 484 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,200 It's about the evolution of gaming itself. 485 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:14,920 Exactly. 486 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:15,760 Wow. 487 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,520 And that's what we'll be exploring in part three 488 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:18,480 of this deep dive. 489 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:19,000 OK. 490 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,680 We'll look at how Halle's Tech could actually 491 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:23,440 change the future of gaming. 492 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,640 I'm excited to do this. 493 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:25,000 Yeah. 494 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:25,280 OK. 495 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,160 So listeners, get ready to level up 496 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,440 your understanding of gaming. 497 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,000 For sure. 498 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,520 As we continue our deep dive into Huawei's GPU revolution. 499 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:33,800 OK. 500 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,800 So we're back, and it's time for the final part of our deep 501 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,040 dive into Huawei's GPU ambitions. 502 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:39,280 Yeah. 503 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,000 We've covered a lot like the tech specs, 504 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,400 the whole China US thing. 505 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,200 Right. 506 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,000 But now let's talk about gaming. 507 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:45,280 Yeah. 508 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,840 You know, it's what I'm most interested in. 509 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:47,400 Of course. 510 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,880 So you were saying earlier that Huawei getting into gaming 511 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,440 could be a real game changer. 512 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,320 It really could. 513 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,200 No pit intended. 514 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:53,760 Exactly. 515 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,120 But OK, we've talked about the AI features 516 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,200 and how they're going to be cheaper. 517 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,160 But how's that actually going to work? 518 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,120 Like how could Huawei's tech really change the way games 519 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,160 look and feel? 520 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,720 Well, one big area is graphics. 521 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:05,120 OK. 522 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,360 We've seen what Nvidia's RTX can do with ray tracing 523 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:08,800 and all that. 524 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,360 Yeah, it looks amazing. 525 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,080 But Huawei's taking it up a notch. 526 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:12,760 How so? 527 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,600 By basically adding AI into the whole rendering process. 528 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,240 Since instead of just using raw power, 529 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,280 they're making the rendering smarter. 530 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,840 Yeah, that's the idea. 531 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,320 They're talking about using AI to predict and generate 532 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,840 realistic lighting and shadows and reflections. 533 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,280 OK. 534 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,760 But using way less processing power to do it. 535 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,240 So games could look even better than they do now. 536 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,360 Potentially way better. 537 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:33,920 Wow. 538 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,320 OK, I'm already picturing these crazy realistic game worlds. 539 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:37,640 Yeah. 540 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,480 But what about the gameplay itself? 541 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,680 Could AI actually change how games are played? 542 00:13:42,680 --> 00:13:43,600 Oh, absolutely. 543 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,160 How so? 544 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,040 One of the most exciting things is using AI to make game 545 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,800 worlds more dynamic and responsive. 546 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:49,600 OK, listen. 547 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,360 Imagine enemies that adapt to your play style. 548 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:52,960 OK. 549 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,840 Levels that change based on the choices you make. 550 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:56,680 Oh, wow. 551 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:58,680 Characters that actually feel like real people. 552 00:13:58,680 --> 00:13:59,720 That would be incredible. 553 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,960 It's like those old games where you had to memorize 554 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:02,840 enemy patterns. 555 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:03,400 Right. 556 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,720 But now the game is learning as you play. 557 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,400 Exactly. 558 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,520 It's taking that to a whole new level. 559 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,080 Games can become less about following a script. 560 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:11,600 OK. 561 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,520 And more about exploring these emergent possibilities. 562 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,480 So it's not just about making games prettier. 563 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:17,720 Nope. 564 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,200 It's about making them smarter. 565 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Yeah, and more engaging. 566 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,200 This reminds me of when VR first came out. 567 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:23,400 Right. 568 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Everyone was so excited about the potential. 569 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:26,000 Yeah. 570 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,920 But the tech just wasn't there yet. 571 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:28,240 Yeah. 572 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Is this different? 573 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,240 Can Huawei actually deliver on all this? 574 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,760 I think that's the million dollar question. 575 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,320 Yeah. 576 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,520 We've heard a lot of hype about AI in gaming. 577 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,160 Right. 578 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,960 But this time it feels different. 579 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:38,200 OK. 580 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:38,920 Why? 581 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,440 The technology has come a long way. 582 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:40,880 OK. 583 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,440 And these new GPUs are crazy powerful. 584 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,480 So you're saying this is not just a marketing gimmick. 585 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,480 I really don't think so. 586 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:47,760 OK. 587 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,440 We need to see how it works in actual games, of course. 588 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,520 Sure. 589 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,440 But the potential is definitely there. 590 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:53,720 OK. 591 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,280 So let's say Huawei pulls it off. 592 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:55,600 OK. 593 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,320 They deliver on everything they're promising. 594 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:57,520 Right. 595 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,040 They build a real gaming ecosystem. 596 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Gamers love their stuff. 597 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:01,920 OK. 598 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,560 Is that the end of Nvidia? 599 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Well, I wouldn't count Nvidia out just yet. 600 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:05,880 OK. 601 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,880 They're a tough competitor. 602 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,120 Right. 603 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,120 They've been around forever. 604 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Yeah. 605 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:09,200 They know what they're doing. 606 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,000 So maybe not the end, but a big shift in the landscape. 607 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:12,240 Yeah. 608 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,440 I think that's more likely. 609 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:13,720 OK. 610 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,680 We're going to see multiple companies fighting 611 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,280 for the top spot in gaming. 612 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,840 And that's good for gamers, right? 613 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:19,240 Definitely. 614 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,600 More competition, better games, lower prices. 615 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,040 Exactly. 616 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,840 A rising tide lifts all boats. 617 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Love that analogy. 618 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,520 But in this case, the tide is AI and the boats 619 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:28,560 are full of gamers. 620 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,440 That's a good one. 621 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,760 And it's not just about the big companies either. 622 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,160 Right. 623 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,040 Cheaper, powerful GPUs could help smaller developers 624 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,720 make amazing games too. 625 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Yeah. 626 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,920 It could be a golden age for indie games. 627 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,160 So more creativity, more innovation. 628 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:41,640 Exactly. 629 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,480 I like where this is going. 630 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:42,880 Me too. 631 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,480 But OK, let's be realistic for a second. 632 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,000 OK. 633 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,400 Besides building that gaming ecosystem, 634 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,760 what other challenges could hallway face? 635 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,760 Well, one big one is that the gaming world is kind of a mess. 636 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,560 What do you mean? 637 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,800 You've got different platforms, different operating systems, 638 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,080 different hardware. 639 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,200 It's hard to make something that works perfectly 640 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:00,880 with everything. 641 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,680 So it's not just about the tech itself. 642 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,160 It's about making sure it works with all the other stuff 643 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,120 that's already out there. 644 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:06,840 Exactly. 645 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,200 They can't just release a GPU and expect everything 646 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,160 to magically work. 647 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:10,360 Nope. 648 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,240 They need to figure out how to fit into the existing ecosystem. 649 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,120 It's going to take a lot of work. 650 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,080 Yeah, sounds like it. 651 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,920 A lot of partnerships. 652 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,560 It's not going to happen overnight. 653 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,240 Definitely not. 654 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,520 Well, it seems like Huawei has a long road ahead. 655 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:21,440 They do. 656 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,400 But they've overcome challenges before. 657 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:24,000 That's true. 658 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 So I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens. 659 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,080 It's going to be interesting to watch. 660 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:27,680 That's for sure. 661 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:28,760 That's the exciting part, right? 662 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,440 Exactly. 663 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,000 We're seeing the future of gaming being shaped right 664 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,040 before our eyes. 665 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,320 And we have no idea where it's going. 666 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:34,800 Yeah. 667 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,360 And I think we've given our listeners a lot to think about. 668 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,120 I hope so. 669 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,400 So as we wrap up this deep dive, what's 670 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,080 the one thing you want everyone to remember? 671 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,800 I think the most important thing is to be open-minded. 672 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,280 OK. 673 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,520 And to embrace the possibilities. 674 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,000 Yeah. 675 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,560 Technology is always changing. 676 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,560 That's for sure. 677 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,640 And gaming is changing right along with it. 678 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:54,920 Right. 679 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,000 We're entering a whole new era of gaming. 680 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:58,480 Yeah. 681 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,240 And it's up to all of us to decide what that future looks like. 682 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,440 That's a great way to put it. 683 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,800 And I think that's a perfect place to end our discussion. 684 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,600 So to all our listeners out there, 685 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,840 thanks for joining us on this deep dive. 686 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,120 Stay curious. 687 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:12,080 Keep exploring. 688 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:12,920 And game on. 689 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:27,000 ARY diese