1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Ever wonder how like, what happens in DC, you know, 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,880 like in Washington, could like actually affect 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,480 how much you pay for your next phone? 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:10,320 Yeah. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,160 It's kind of crazy to think about, right? 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,160 Yeah, definitely. 7 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,240 Well, we're gonna like dive deep today. 8 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,080 Okay. 9 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,480 We're exploring this book called AI and Global Power. 10 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,480 Oh, cool. 11 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,280 It's got this really long subtitle, 12 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,160 understanding the US-China dynamics. 13 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,000 Mm-hmm. 14 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,460 But basically it breaks down how like this whole 15 00:00:27,460 --> 00:00:31,360 global tech competition is playing out like right 16 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,200 in your everyday life. 17 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,040 Yeah. 18 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:33,880 I mean, you're smart. 19 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,920 You want to stay ahead of the curve, right? 20 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:35,760 Definitely. 21 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,040 So this book, I think, has the intel that you need. 22 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:40,880 Yeah. 23 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,440 We're talking real world stories. 24 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,280 Cool. 25 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,240 Data-driven insights. 26 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,080 Awesome. 27 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,280 Like just think of it as a crash course 28 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,760 in how the digital world is being shaped 29 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,840 by all these forces that we don't even think about. 30 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,800 Right. 31 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,240 Yeah, and this book is really interesting 32 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,040 because it kind of pulls back the curtain 33 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,040 and shows you how these international policies 34 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,240 actually connect to your wallet. 35 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,200 We're gonna see how US policies specifically 36 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:10,200 toward Chinese AI are impacting the tech that you can get. 37 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,320 Yeah. 38 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:13,240 And probably in ways you don't even realize. 39 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,640 And that's the thing, like you might follow 40 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,440 the latest gadgets and apps and stuff. 41 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,280 Right. 42 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,520 But who has time to really like unpack all the politics 43 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,040 that's going on behind the scenes? 44 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:24,960 Yeah, it's a lot. 45 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:25,800 It's a lot. 46 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:26,640 Let's break it down. 47 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,460 First things first. 48 00:01:27,460 --> 00:01:28,300 Okay. 49 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:31,280 What does this global AI landscape even look like? 50 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,140 So picture a chessboard, but instead of like kings 51 00:01:35,140 --> 00:01:39,900 and queens, we've got Silicon Valley and we've got Beijing. 52 00:01:39,900 --> 00:01:43,480 The US has that history of innovation, 53 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,520 venture capital, startup culture, 54 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,280 but China, they've got a different kind of fuel. 55 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Massive government investment in AI. 56 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,560 Wow. 57 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,360 And this gigantic population that's just generating data, 58 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,680 like we've never seen before. 59 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,520 Yeah, that's true. 60 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,360 Yeah. 61 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,800 So each player is bringing some serious strengths 62 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,040 to the table, but what's the US government like? 63 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,760 What are their goals in this game? 64 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,920 So the US government wants to win. 65 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,760 Right. 66 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,520 They're aiming to maintain their global tech dominance, 67 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,840 but also ensuring national security at the same time. 68 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:14,840 It's a tough balance. 69 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,680 It is. 70 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,160 It's a very delicate balancing act, 71 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,520 especially as AI gets more and more tied in 72 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,240 with military strategy and economic competitiveness. 73 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,600 So let's talk about the national security piece first. 74 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Yeah. 75 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,080 How does AI even fit into that? 76 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Yeah. 77 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,640 Well, the US government, they're very concerned 78 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:35,600 about protecting critical AI technology. 79 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,440 Yeah. 80 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,640 Making sure it doesn't fall into the hands 81 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:39,280 of potential adversaries. 82 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,120 That makes sense. 83 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:40,960 Right. 84 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,560 They see AI as a game changer in warfare. 85 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,800 Strategic decision making. 86 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,000 So that's why you see these policies like export controls, 87 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,560 which restrict the sale of certain sensitive technologies. 88 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,440 To certain countries. 89 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,400 Yeah, to specific countries, including China. 90 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:54,880 OK. 91 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,360 There's also limitations on investment 92 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,080 from Chinese firms and American AI companies. 93 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,680 Interesting. 94 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,240 Yeah. 95 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,600 And even research collaborations are limited. 96 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,000 Wow. 97 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,160 It's all about safeguarding what they see 98 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,000 as their technological edge. 99 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,400 OK. 100 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:08,640 Yeah. 101 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,440 I mean, you wouldn't want technology 102 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,680 that could be used against you to fall into the wrong hands. 103 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,360 Exactly. 104 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,480 What about the economic side of things? 105 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,400 How do those concerns kind of play into policy? 106 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,000 Well, the US is very protective of its economic interests, 107 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,920 especially when it comes to tech. 108 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:25,200 Yeah. 109 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,280 They see China's state backed support 110 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,760 of its own tech companies as like an unfair advantage. 111 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,440 So they're trying to level the playing field. 112 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,040 Exactly. 113 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,600 And this is where tariffs come in. 114 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:35,920 OK. 115 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,240 You know those taxes on imported goods 116 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,760 designed to make Chinese products more expensive. 117 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,280 Right. 118 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,960 And in theory, boost American companies. 119 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:44,560 OK. 120 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,160 And then there are also attempts to control 121 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,920 the transfer of technology. 122 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:49,240 Yeah. 123 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Making it harder for Chinese companies 124 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,360 to get American AI technology. 125 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:53,640 Got it. 126 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,880 So is this constant like push and pull 127 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,960 between keeping the US secure and maintaining 128 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,400 its economic power? 129 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,000 It is. 130 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,800 In this really important tech arena? 131 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,160 Yeah. 132 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,680 So the book actually uses this story of Sarah 133 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,960 to illustrate how these policies have real world consequences 134 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,080 for regular people. 135 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:12,520 Yeah. 136 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:12,920 Right? 137 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:13,080 Right. 138 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Like you and me. 139 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,160 Yeah. 140 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,200 She was like ready to go electric for their next car. 141 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Oh, cool. 142 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:17,320 Yeah. 143 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,040 What happened? 144 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,320 So she really wanted to Tesla Model 3. 145 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,160 Those are nice. 146 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:21,840 Right. 147 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:25,160 But the price tag in Seattle was like $47,000. 148 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,240 Whoa. 149 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,520 And she found out that a comparable electric vehicle made 150 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,120 by NIO, a Chinese company, was selling in Shanghai 151 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,920 for only $31,000. 152 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,360 Wow. 153 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,000 Huge difference. 154 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,720 But the big difference. 155 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:39,880 $16,000. 156 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,040 Yeah. 157 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,800 That's not just like a currency exchange thing, right? 158 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,640 No, definitely not. 159 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,200 The book suggests that a big part of that price gap 160 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,000 is because of US policies. 161 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Trying to protect Tesla. 162 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,680 Yeah, to protect companies like Tesla 163 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,840 from that competition. 164 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:53,320 Wow. 165 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,040 So Sarah couldn't really justify spending 166 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,480 that extra money on the Tesla. 167 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,000 Yeah. 168 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,440 She had to kind of put her electric car dreams on hold. 169 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,440 That's too bad. 170 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,920 Which is sad. 171 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,120 This story really highlights how those tariffs and trade 172 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,320 restrictions can really hit consumers, 173 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,720 where it hurts in our wallets. 174 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:12,320 Right. 175 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,680 We're essentially all paying a premium 176 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,200 for certain technologies. 177 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:16,960 Yeah. 178 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,280 Because of these restrictions. 179 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:18,920 It's true. 180 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,520 And that principle applies broadly. 181 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,240 When you have limited competition, 182 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,360 it usually means higher prices for consumers. 183 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:26,960 Makes sense. 184 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,320 It's basic economics. 185 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:28,840 Yeah. 186 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:31,320 It's definitely something to keep in mind the next time you're 187 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:31,560 shopping for tech. 188 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,240 Yeah, I can point. 189 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,440 Like smartphones to laptops to even software. 190 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,640 And the book argues that it's not just about higher prices, 191 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:38,960 right? 192 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,320 Right. 193 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,120 It's also about the choices that we have as consumers. 194 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,600 Yes, definitely. 195 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,440 Let's talk about Mike. 196 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:44,920 OK. 197 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,000 He's a graphic designer. 198 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:46,480 Uh-huh. 199 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,080 And his experience with Deepseek. 200 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,440 OK. 201 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,960 So Mike was really excited about Deepseek. 202 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:50,320 Yeah. 203 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,840 This cutting edge AI design tool, 204 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:55,800 promising to totally change his workflow. 205 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,640 Cool. 206 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,520 But the problem was, because of US restrictions, 207 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:00,960 it wasn't available in Chicago. 208 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:01,880 Oh. 209 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:02,360 Yeah. 210 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,160 But just across the border in Toronto. 211 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,600 Oh, wow. 212 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,680 His Canadian counterparts could use it totally freely. 213 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,880 That's a huge disadvantage. 214 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,720 I know big disadvantage for Mike. 215 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Yeah. 216 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,200 This is such a good example of how policies that 217 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,560 are meant to protect American companies 218 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,920 can actually backfire and really hinder American innovators. 219 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:24,440 Yeah. 220 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,320 It's like shooting yourself in the foot a little bit. 221 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:26,640 Yeah. 222 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,000 Putting them at a disadvantage. 223 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,920 For sure. 224 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,800 So the book is saying that limited competition 225 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,000 leads to fewer choices for us. 226 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:34,600 It does. 227 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,520 And that applies not just to specific products like Deepseek, 228 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,920 but the overall pace of innovation. 229 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:41,400 Right. 230 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,560 Absolutely. 231 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,560 Think about it. 232 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,000 When companies don't have to fight as hard to stand out, 233 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,080 they don't have as much reason to push the boundaries. 234 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Right. 235 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,160 To come up with those exciting new features we all love. 236 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Yeah. 237 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:54,920 True. 238 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,840 It's just like anything else, competition breeds innovation. 239 00:06:57,840 --> 00:06:58,040 Yeah. 240 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,400 So indirectly, these policies can actually 241 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,840 slow down progress in certain areas of tech. 242 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:06,200 This whole conversation is making me think about the debate 243 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,080 around TikTok. 244 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:07,760 Oh, yeah. 245 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:08,440 You know? 246 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,440 If that app were to be banned, it would limit choices for people. 247 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,560 But the government is arguing that it's 248 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,960 about national security. 249 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,600 Right. 250 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,600 It seems like the stakes are just so high. 251 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,360 They are incredibly high. 252 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,320 And the US government is very serious about staying ahead. 253 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:24,640 Yeah. 254 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,160 You know, at the top of the leaderboard. 255 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:26,680 Yeah. 256 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,080 They believe that controlling their own technological destiny, 257 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,800 which is a concept called technological sovereignty. 258 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:34,840 That's a new one for me. 259 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,160 Can you expand on that a little bit? 260 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Sure. 261 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,400 So technological sovereignty is all 262 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,040 about a nation's ability to control its own tech development. 263 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:42,400 OK. 264 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,360 And its destiny, you know, free from outside influence. 265 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,160 The US wants to set the standards, 266 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,040 shape the rules of the game, and maintain its leadership 267 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,240 in this global AI landscape. 268 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:55,920 That makes sense. 269 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,520 And as we've seen, they're willing 270 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,000 to put some pretty aggressive policies in place to do that. 271 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,400 Though it's not just about keeping valuable tech out 272 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,600 of the wrong hands. 273 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,000 Right. 274 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,160 It's about shaping the whole, you know, 275 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,720 landscape of AI development. 276 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:08,480 Exactly. 277 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,760 This is getting really fascinating. 278 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:10,200 Yeah. 279 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Yeah. 280 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,760 And in part two, we're going to get 281 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,520 into even more specific examples of how these policies are 282 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,960 affecting the products you use every day. 283 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Oh, cool. 284 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,400 As well as, like, potential downsides 285 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,080 and unintended consequences. 286 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,440 I'm interested to hear about that. 287 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Stay tuned. 288 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Stay tuned. 289 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,880 We'll be right back. 290 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,920 So we've been talking about how the US wants to keep its edge 291 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,480 in this AI race. 292 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,440 And you mentioned that the government 293 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,240 invests, like, a ton of money into research and development 294 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,280 to stay ahead. 295 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,680 Yeah. 296 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:44,160 What does that actually look like in practice? 297 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,200 So the US government spends billions and billions 298 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,880 of dollars on AI research. 299 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,400 Wow. 300 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,040 Funding universities, labs, even some startups. 301 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:53,480 OK. 302 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,720 Trying to basically fuel innovation 303 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,840 and make sure breakthroughs are happening, you know, 304 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:58,520 in America. 305 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:58,960 Yeah. 306 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,120 But at the same time, they're being super careful 307 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,440 about who they share that knowledge with. 308 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,240 That makes sense. 309 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,800 So there are a lot of restrictions 310 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,200 on collaborating with Chinese researchers 311 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,280 or institutions. 312 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,240 So it's kind of like they're trying to have their cake 313 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:11,960 and eat it too. 314 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:12,920 Yeah. 315 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,800 Fueling American innovation, but also 316 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,560 trying to limit the flow of knowledge 317 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:19,120 to, like, potential competitors. 318 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,040 Right. 319 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,920 Doesn't that create a little bit of a paradox, though? 320 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,640 If innovation really thrives on collaboration, 321 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,960 the open exchange of ideas, could these restrictions 322 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,240 actually backfire? 323 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,280 That's a really good point. 324 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,600 And the book actually raises that exact question. 325 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,880 Some experts are saying that by trying 326 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,960 to wall off American AI research, 327 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,560 it could actually stifle innovation in the long run. 328 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:45,080 Interesting. 329 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,160 They're saying that cutting-edge research often 330 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,640 comes from these unexpected collaborations. 331 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:50,200 That's true. 332 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,160 And that restricting those interactions 333 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,240 could limit the potential for breakthroughs. 334 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,760 It makes you wonder, right? 335 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,600 It does. 336 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,480 So the US government is walking a tightrope here. 337 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,200 Yeah. 338 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,600 Definitely a tightrope. 339 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,680 Trying to protect its own interests, 340 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:06,080 while also recognizing that AI research is global. 341 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,280 Yeah, you can't really isolate it. 342 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,320 Exactly. 343 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,400 You can't completely isolate yourself. 344 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,040 And this is where that concept of technological sovereignty 345 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:13,920 comes back. 346 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,120 The US wants to be in control, setting the standards, 347 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,240 writing the rules. 348 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,680 Shaping the future of AI. 349 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:20,200 Exactly. 350 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,560 Shaping the future. 351 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:24,000 They believe that maintaining control 352 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,240 is absolutely critical, not just for economic competitiveness, 353 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,400 but also for national security. 354 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,520 So you mentioned that there could be some downsides 355 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,160 to all of this. 356 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,720 What are some of the unintended consequences 357 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,000 that the book talks about? 358 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,520 Well, one of the big concerns is that by restricting 359 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,280 collaboration and competition with China, 360 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,280 the US might actually slow down the advancement of AI 361 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,000 overall. 362 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:49,720 Interesting. 363 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,520 Which could end up hurting everyone. 364 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,360 Even themselves. 365 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,320 Even themselves. 366 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,360 It's kind of ironic, right? 367 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,560 It's like they're so focused on winning the race. 368 00:10:57,560 --> 00:10:57,960 Right. 369 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,000 That they might slow down the whole field. 370 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,760 And almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy. 371 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:02,760 It is. 372 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,600 You know, they're trying to maintain their lead, 373 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,520 but they might end up creating the perfect conditions 374 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,960 for their rivals to catch up. 375 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,240 So what can we as consumers do? 376 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,960 Well, the book really emphasizes that consumers 377 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,120 need to be aware of what's going on. 378 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,840 Because at the end of the day, it's 379 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,200 the everyday users who are most impacted by these policies. 380 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,360 We see it in the products we can buy, the prices we pay, 381 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,880 the features we have access to. 382 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,440 OK, so let's talk about those specific impacts. 383 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,360 You mentioned that tariffs on Chinese goods 384 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,920 can really drive up the costs of tech products for consumers. 385 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:41,480 Absolutely. 386 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,800 Can you give us a real world example of that? 387 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Sir, think about your smartphone. 388 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,200 A lot of the components inside, like the processors, 389 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,800 the memory chips, even the screens, 390 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,720 those are often made in China. 391 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,960 And when the US puts tariffs on those components, 392 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,280 those costs get passed down the supply chain 393 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,920 and end up in the price you pay for your phone. 394 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,680 So that $1,000 plus price tag for a new phone 395 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:10,560 could be partly because of these tree tensions. 396 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:11,840 It's definitely a factor. 397 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,360 And it's not just smartphones either. 398 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,800 What else? 399 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:20,640 Laptops, tablets, smart home devices, practically any gadget 400 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,720 that have those complex components 401 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,640 that relies on those complex components that 402 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:25,800 are made overseas. 403 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,560 So it's like a hidden tax on innovation. 404 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:29,000 Kind of, yeah. 405 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,640 It impacts our wallets. 406 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,080 And it can slow down how quickly people 407 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,720 adopt these new technologies. 408 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,960 And it's not just about the price either, right? 409 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,880 It's also about availability, like we talked about with Mike. 410 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,400 Yeah, Mike and his design tool that he couldn't get in the US. 411 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,080 That's a direct result of those export controls. 412 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:48,560 Wow. 413 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:51,560 So these policies are meant to protect national security 414 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:53,320 and economic interests. 415 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,480 But they can also create some barriers for consumers 416 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,400 and innovators. 417 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,360 It's a complex situation. 418 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Yeah, it's complicated. 419 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:02,120 It is. 420 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,280 And it's important for people to be aware of these connections. 421 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,080 You're not just passively receiving technology. 422 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,680 You're a part of this whole ecosystem. 423 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:15,920 And your choices, your voice actually matters. 424 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,360 This has been a fascinating look at how these policies really 425 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,360 impact our lives. 426 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:21,080 They do. 427 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,720 But where do we go from here? 428 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,800 That's a great question. 429 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,320 And that's exactly what we're going 430 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,760 to talk about in the final part of our deep dive. 431 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:28,400 OK. 432 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,040 We'll explore what consumers can do to navigate this landscape 433 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,960 and maybe even influence it for the better. 434 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,440 I'm excited to hear about that. 435 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:38,400 Stay tuned, everyone. 436 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,440 Yes, stay tuned. 437 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,240 OK, so we've been really unpacking this whole AI 438 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,880 and global power thing. 439 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,440 Yeah. 440 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,800 And it's clear that these policies 441 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,560 like have this ripple effect on our tech experiences. 442 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:52,520 They really do. 443 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,720 But it's kind of like, what can we even do about it? 444 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,360 It's true. 445 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,080 It can feel a little overwhelming. 446 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:57,680 Yeah. 447 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:00,280 But as consumers, we're not totally powerless. 448 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:00,760 OK. 449 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,040 The first step is just being aware. 450 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,520 The more we understand how all of this works, 451 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,800 the better equipped we are to navigate it. 452 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:09,200 Right. 453 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,880 And advocate for change. 454 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,080 OK, so knowledge is power. 455 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:13,960 Exactly. 456 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,400 But how do we actually translate that knowledge into action? 457 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,480 So start by just being an informed consumer. 458 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,480 When you see a new gadget with a crazy price tag 459 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,560 or you hear about a promising technology 460 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,800 that's not available here, ask yourself, 461 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,200 could this be because of those US policies? 462 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Oh, interesting. 463 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,080 You know, don't just accept the tech landscape as it is. 464 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:37,360 Yeah. 465 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,760 Question those assumptions. 466 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,120 Be a little bit of a tech detective. 467 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:40,760 Exactly. 468 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Connect the dots between those policy decisions 469 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,280 and your own experiences. 470 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,440 OK, so once we've done our research, what's next? 471 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:49,800 Make your voice heard. 472 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:50,800 OK, how do we do that? 473 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,240 Support organizations that align with your views 474 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,520 on AI and global tech. 475 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,040 OK. 476 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,840 Contact your elected officials. 477 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,640 Express your concerns. 478 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,360 Get involved in online discussions. 479 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,920 Write blog posts. 480 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,200 Share your insights on social media. 481 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,800 So basically amplifying the consumer perspective 482 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,400 in this whole policy conversation. 483 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:09,880 Exactly. 484 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,400 You're not just a passive recipient of technology. 485 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,040 You're a stakeholder. 486 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,520 And your voice matters. 487 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,160 What are some other ways that listeners can like, you know, 488 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,800 kind of flex those consumer muscles? 489 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,480 Well, think about where you're spending your money. 490 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:22,840 OK. 491 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,400 Support businesses that prioritize ethical AI 492 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,000 practices, data privacy. 493 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,440 You could even choose to boycott companies. 494 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:32,880 Oh, wow. 495 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,560 Whose values don't align with your own. 496 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:35,960 OK. 497 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,760 And of course, vote for politicians 498 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,720 who support policies that promote innovation, accessibility, 499 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,080 and responsible development of AI. 500 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,400 So every choice we make, every purchase sends a signal. 501 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,000 It does. 502 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,040 Every click, every purchase, every vote. 503 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,640 It all sends a signal to the market and to policymakers. 504 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,000 It's about recognizing that we have agency. 505 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,840 We do. 506 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,400 In shaping the future of tech. 507 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Absolutely. 508 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,440 This whole deep dive has been so eye-opening. 509 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:06,160 I agree. 510 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,800 We went from like these abstract geopolitical maneuvers 511 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,440 to like the real impact on our wallets, our choices, 512 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,720 and like the entire technology landscape 513 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,160 is all connected. 514 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:18,480 It is. 515 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,200 And it all goes back to that key question in the book. 516 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,800 Could the US policies that are trying to curb China's rise 517 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,440 in AI actually be hindering progress that could benefit 518 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,080 everyone? 519 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,000 Even the US? 520 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,080 Even the US. 521 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,840 It's a question we all need to think about. 522 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,360 Yeah, especially as AI is just reshaping the world. 523 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,200 Changing everything. 524 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:38,920 It really is. 525 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,680 This has been AI and global power. 526 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,440 Yeah, thanks for joining us. 527 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,120 We hope this has really empowered you 528 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,560 to be more informed, more engaged, and just more 529 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,960 intentional about your role in shaping the future of tech. 530 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,160 It's up to all of us. 531 00:16:53,160 --> 00:17:19,320 So until next time, stay curious.