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In the book of life death is the only chapter

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warning You have just wandered into the unpopular

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playground arena a unique space specifically

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designed for young adults and those soon becoming

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where curiosity meets unconventional learning

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and dialogue with brutal honesty If you're a

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bold and daring rebel who wants more options

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on your life journey than you have now Keep listening

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Welcome Jen Lin. Welcome to the Unpopular Playground.

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Welcome back. This is Jen Lin and a little bit

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different intro. Had a few hiccups with the podcast

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that we did with Ramon Splitting. Now, if you're

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gonna do a podcast, sometimes you're gonna run

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into issues and you just have to work with it

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and make it happen. You're gonna have to fix

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those, figure out what's wrong, and then just

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push through it. And that's what we did here

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in this episode. So we did salvage the conversation

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that we did earlier in March and we're gonna

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be talking about a few things. Ramon's gonna

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introduce himself and then we're gonna be talking

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about, I'm gonna go over what the delays were

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in addition to that but it's gonna be at the

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end of the conversation. March was a tough month,

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not gonna lie. Had a couple of deaths in the

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family for myself, my dog, and my grandmother.

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And with those two things, we were delayed in

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putting out the podcast on the schedule that

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we had. Set out so I with heartfelt apologies.

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I do apologize for not getting The podcast out

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on the day that we said but back on track now

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We do have a little PS after The podcast with

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the discussion with Roman so go ahead and say

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tune because we do have a slight pivot from some

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of the things that we had discussed afterwards

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we're always trying to improve upon what we're

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doing so and it's going to be exciting because

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it's going to result in more content so please

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do stay tuned until the end we're very excited

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to Bring to you the things that we're gonna flesh

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out but It is going to result in putting some

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other things that we had talked about in this

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podcast in the conversation They will flesh out

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eventually, but it will just be incrementally

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so just keep that in mind And we're excited to

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continue to bring you the best of what we have

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and keep up that quality so please stay tuned

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Let's create a community where every. Yeah. What's

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up, beautiful people out there listening. Thank

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you for checking us out and riding with us and

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glad to be back on the team. Spent, spent most

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of the last year. just going through some major

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life changes and you know sometimes when quote

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unquote bad things happen to you or you know

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happen to us and things don't go our way or life

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just kind of slaps us upside the head and even

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knocks us down sometimes it's for our benefit

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and so I had to learn that and had to learn that

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when things come at you Sometimes seemingly out

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of nowhere, it's to wake you up. It's to shake

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you. And, you know, it's God, source, universe,

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you know, whatever you want to call it, trying

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to wake you up and shake you to take you down

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another path, you know, that's going to be for

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your benefit. And so that's what I went through,

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you know, that it included separation and divorce

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and moving and just all kind of stuff. And You

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know, sometimes we can see things coming. Sometimes

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we can't. And then sometimes, you know, we either

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don't see how we're going to handle it. And somehow

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we do. We come out on the other side just fine.

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And then other times we think, oh, you know,

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I got this. And then we run into more hurdles.

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So it was a little bit of both, you know, it

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was a little bit of all that. So it was definitely

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a learning time of learning for me. And I'm so

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thankful and grateful that it did happen, you

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know, the way it did when it did and the way

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I responded, because, like I said, when when

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life knocks you down, you know, you got to respond

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and, you know, pick yourself back up and, you

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know, and just use the lessons that you learn

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to move forward or just, you know, stay down

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and, you know, die. So I mean. You pick, you

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know, what do you want to do? You want to just

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give up and kind of just throw in a towel? Or

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do you want to, you know, pick yourself up and,

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you know, like I said, learn from what life is

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trying to show you, right? That's why you're

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so shaken. That's why, you know, you feel like

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maybe you're bottom or, you know, you don't know

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what to do next. But if you just kind of go within

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and, you know, just let, you know, like I said,

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God's to us, you know, whatever you want to call

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it, you know, speak to you. You don't know what

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to do. you don't have the right direction. So

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that's the direction I'm headed into now. And

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part of that is, you know, part of my journey

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and part of my life mission is to, you know,

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get the word out on information that people don't

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know, that we're not taught in school and, you

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know, to help set people free. So I'm excited

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to bring that later on. in upcoming seasons and

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just to have some good discussion and conversation

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and you know just see how we can all help each

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other out um you know wherever we are in life

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like whatever stage we we are in life right different

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stages in life right you might be a high school

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kid student getting ready to go in college you

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might have graduated from college and find that

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you can't find a job nowadays um you know or

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you know you could be a professional, you know,

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married with kids and, you know, at a crossroads.

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OK, I've been, you know, in this work, in this

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corporate job for, you know, however long and,

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you know, I thought it was supposed to be different.

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You're trying to figure out what, you know, first

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of all, you know, where did I go wrong? But second

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of all, you know, even if you feel you did make

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the right choices, like, OK, like there's got

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to be something more than just this. Right. So,

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you know, that I think I think, you know, everybody

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is in a certain place in life at any given time

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and you know I just feel like or I feel like

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I know as a team you know we have our own experiences

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like that we've learned during and we can provide

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you know help information direction and guidance

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and you know really that to help bring people's

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natural gifts, talents, purpose out and to help

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people learn how to put away with fear and like

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self -doubt and all those low vibrational things

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that help you look back. So that's what I'm excited

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to do. Yeah. I think that's perfect. That's it's

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our platform. What what do you bring to the team?

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I'm on what like what's your background experience?

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Yeah Yeah, I mean, you know honestly then I would

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just say life, you know Because uh It all like

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I believe we could all have each other out, you

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know, and I don't when I see all I don't means

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three of us I mean Anyone who you know kind of

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on our say same? wavelength and you know has

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a desire to help people out just learn more life

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and you know be willing to to learn and it means

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throwing out what you thought you knew right

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so um i would just say life um you know being

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a parent being a dad just you know yeah so i

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you know yeah i mean i you know i think i could

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talk about what i did and you know in the past

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what i did in military all you know i mean it

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There's relevant. Yeah, I mean, there is relevance

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to, you know, every every stop you made along

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your journey. Right. But I think just, you know,

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to keep from like, listen, a bunch of bullet

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points about myself, I just say just life experience.

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I feel that I feel that you're a veteran. Yeah.

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I think it's really cool about, you know, I think

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there's something special about being a military

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veteran and that, yeah, that same mentality,

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train as you fight, lead from the front, that

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you don't do anything that you wouldn't ask anything

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of anybody else that you're not willing to do

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yourself. And I'd swear Debbie's been in the

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military because she's got that mentality. 100

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% you know, Debbie what what about you? Like

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what do I bring? Yeah, like what what excites

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you about being on the podcast and you know helping

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people what made you want to jump on board the

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my my My vision and drink. Yeah the train the

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unpopular playground train. I'm a mom. I'm a

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grandma I have run businesses in the past. I've

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dealt with the school systems and watched my

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daughter go through hard times in school, watched

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my grandchildren sit there and had a fight with

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the school boards and the principals and whatnot

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to get them to understand this is not how she

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learns. We need to change the way she's taught

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and why can't we do it this way and fight about

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well we're not doing the core and well the heck

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with the core she can't learn through the core

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she can learn better this way and trying to help

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them work with me to change the way we can teach

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her. And I just started doing it at home and

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it was like, well, you do it this way, you're

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going to get the answer. If you're going to sit

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there and do it that way, you get frustrated

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and you're not going to do the work at all. And

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she ended up graduating with close to a 4 .0

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average. And I'm also a retired nurse. So I want

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to bring some of my health and nutrition and.

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just kind of let other people experience, you

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know, health. Today, the health of people is

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just god -awful. Everybody's overweight and everything

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is big size, you know, humongous size. And it's

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like, no, we have to learn to eat better and

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exercise more and not be killing ourselves. And

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then these people, the ones that are always so

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miserable because they can't do anything. and

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all these diseases because of their diets and

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everything. I just want people to start living

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a happier healthy life and I want to start them

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from when they're in school and when they graduate

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and finish college or even if they've done all

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that and they're out in the world and still are

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miserable because they can't find any jobs and

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they're just you know, eating, smoking or drinking

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their life away. And it's like, no, you know,

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you need to face the truth, face what you're

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doing. And then, you know, fix what the fix what's

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not working for you instead of just burying it

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all in alcohol, drugs, whatever. Yeah, I love

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that. And that's exactly what I had in mind,

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too, because as I taught school, I was in the

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military and I taught school almost of the time.

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And I was also in the medical field for a time

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and just on my own health journey. And just I

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never felt like I was prepared for the world.

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No, not one little bit. And school doesn't prepare

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you nowadays. No, they give you the core curriculum.

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And everybody gets out and knows the same thing,

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which is nothing. And nobody nobody's prepared

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for the world's life. And we need to take And

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what was interesting when Ramon and I worked

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on the Q3 show together, we kind of, when we

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were quarantined, the three of us with Jonathan,

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Ramon and me, we tried to think of some alternatives

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of different things of what people could do for,

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you know, for work that would make them happy.

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And it seemed like the perfect time if you're

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going to do a career change to do it. During

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that time every actually rethink yours by everybody

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had to stop and we had so many great guests on

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that show Including you Debbie. Yeah I mean it

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was just so much fun and we did do that show

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live right might explore that at some other time

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when it's practical for us, but it We pretty

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much have the same Almost the same intention,

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but it was more geared towards adults. But that's

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when I started the idea for unpopular playground.

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I thought this needs to go younger. Yes. And

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the preparation because you got kids that are

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in high school that still have no idea how to

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even get started. They know what they want to

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do or maybe they don't have parents or schools

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supporting them. And I thought they need somebody

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to be able to reach out, grab them by the hand

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and say, come on, honey, this is what you need

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to do. And to provide the spaces for them to

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be able to make those mistakes that would normally

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be consequential and to be able to have those

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conversations and talk it out. with like -minded

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people that want to go somewhere and I thought

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well why not from like the beginning of high

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school all the way through young adults because

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nobody's catering to them. The only time people

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think about high schoolers and young adults is

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either for the military to recruit or for college

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or high school graduations. That's it. But the

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thing is today, too, you got to look at kids

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don't go out and play with other kids. They're

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not subjected to other people's opinions and

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ideas of what's out there in the world that,

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wow, I didn't know you could do that. Or I didn't

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know we could, you know, do this or, you know,

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when you went years ago, we went and we played

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and we did, you know, you pretended I'm a truck

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driver or I'm a doctor or what. They don't do

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that anymore. These kids are stuck. in their

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room playing video games and none of the video

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games are going to make any impact on these kids

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as to what they're going to do for a job unless

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they just want to go around killing people. And

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I think that's the problem too. There's a lot

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of isolation with the kids today. They don't

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get out. They don't mingle. I see it with my

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grandchildren. They'll come home from school

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and they'll be sitting and playing on their Nintendos

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or whatever it is that they play now on Xbox,

00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:57.299
whatever. But it's just not a healthy environment

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anymore. And they don't know how to talk to one

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another. That part. Wouldn't you guys both agree

00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:09.799
that you look on social media and nobody can,

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especially since like 2020 nobody can have a

00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:17.079
conversation you have all of those trolls that

00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:21.059
you if somebody says I like chocolate ice cream

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and you say I like vanilla or I like strawberry

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you're a hater and all of a sudden it's like

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oh well you don't like chocolate ice cream you're

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a racist Or, oh I know, it's almost like you

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can't even have a different preference. Everybody's

00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:43.759
on a mission to convert that you either like

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what I like or you're a hater, you're this and

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that, and nobody can respectfully listen to somebody's,

00:18:51.579 --> 00:18:53.819
you know, another point of view to think that,

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wow. That's another way of looking at it. I never

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thought about them and be open -minded because

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they're just so sick with what they're fed on

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TV or media that can't have their own thought.

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Well, even when you're tech these kids with the

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text, I read some of the text on my grandkids'

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phones and I'm like, oh, that was really nasty.

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And it's like, oh no, but she meant it like this.

00:19:17.779 --> 00:19:20.140
Well, how do you know she meant it? When you're

00:19:20.140 --> 00:19:22.640
reading the text, it doesn't come off. Oh, that's

00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.190
a nice, happy, friendly, loving. text it's kind

00:19:26.190 --> 00:19:28.369
of like I would be offended by that text oh yeah

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but you don't know her and it's like they don't

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even know intonation when they're doing when

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they're speaking to one another like well what

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does that mean is she like upset with you oh

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no that's just like well you know you guys that's

00:19:41.069 --> 00:19:43.829
why when you talk to your parents your grandparents

00:19:43.829 --> 00:19:46.690
you don't even know how to get your point across

00:19:46.690 --> 00:19:50.579
because you don't use right emphasis when you're

00:19:50.579 --> 00:19:54.099
using certain words and it's just totally bad

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as far as for conversations. I have the hardest

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time having conversations with my grandchildren.

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You would not believe they take everything the

00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:08.339
wrong way because it's like we're talking face

00:20:08.339 --> 00:20:10.660
to face and it's like well I didn't and it's

00:20:10.660 --> 00:20:14.420
like excuse me I didn't say you said this I go

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you know if we were texting on the phone you

00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:20.359
would be just close the phone on me because you're

00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:22.819
thinking I'm saying this you're not listening

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to what I'm saying and that's the problem today

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nobody listens to the other person everybody's

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buttoning and saying what they think you said

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instead of saying that what did you mean and

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that's the biggest meaning to what I'm saying

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and that's the problem today nobody listens to

00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:44.420
the other person everybody's buttoning and saying

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what they think you said instead of saying that

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what did you mean and that's the biggest problem

00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:56.799
today what are your thoughts for my uh -huh right

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right right yeah hey hey you're in one here They

00:21:13.349 --> 00:21:15.970
yep people hear what they want like people see

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the thing is people already have their mind made

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up about Everything, you know anything and so

00:21:21.289 --> 00:21:25.609
it doesn't matter what you say Because they were

00:21:25.609 --> 00:21:29.190
at the mind up so there's gonna defend or be

00:21:29.190 --> 00:21:31.609
offended or push back on whatever you have to

00:21:31.609 --> 00:21:34.990
say that doesn't Agree with the relying of what

00:21:34.990 --> 00:21:38.630
they've already decided in their mind. So that's

00:21:38.630 --> 00:21:45.079
the problem and As far as you kids these days

00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:48.519
coming out, I agree with everything that you

00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.240
guys said. Now, high school kids, you know, when

00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.059
high school kids come out, they they're options,

00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:57.640
but it's like they don't realize their options.

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And one of the things I want to do to help people

00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:04.819
out is just get them to realize that it's OK

00:22:04.819 --> 00:22:07.119
to go pay your own path. You don't have to take

00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:11.859
some cookie cutter, you know. kind of approach

00:22:11.859 --> 00:22:16.259
to life as far as education and career goes.

00:22:16.420 --> 00:22:19.059
Like, you can do stuff. I mean, you can really

00:22:19.059 --> 00:22:23.079
go out here and just pave your own path. So I

00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:25.819
want these kids to have the confidence and the

00:22:25.819 --> 00:22:29.220
skills to know that they can at least take, you

00:22:29.220 --> 00:22:33.940
know, that's an option for them. Right. Right.

00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:53.069
Yeah. Right. Yes. Be you. Absolutely. And my

00:22:53.069 --> 00:22:56.470
thought in that trying to contribute to that

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with my skills is that, okay, teach them how

00:23:02.230 --> 00:23:06.730
to think logically, the logical fallacies, critical

00:23:06.730 --> 00:23:11.430
thinking skills and communication. Being able

00:23:11.430 --> 00:23:15.849
to can convey your thoughts completely and talk

00:23:15.849 --> 00:23:20.769
them out and listen to and be open minded to

00:23:20.769 --> 00:23:24.390
other people's ideas before you make judgments

00:23:24.390 --> 00:23:28.730
on them. And so those are a couple of things

00:23:28.730 --> 00:23:34.609
definitely that are on my agenda for course development

00:23:34.609 --> 00:23:52.859
and things like that. Yes. All right Yeah, oh

00:23:52.859 --> 00:23:57.079
like You know what Jen what we so you mentioned

00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.539
the the logical fallacies Something something

00:24:00.539 --> 00:24:04.000
like something is as basic as that a lot of people

00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:07.869
don't know. I mean, I probably couldn't name

00:24:07.869 --> 00:24:09.829
them all but you know as far as when you're having

00:24:09.829 --> 00:24:13.309
a debate or argument not even really about an

00:24:13.309 --> 00:24:15.710
argument debate but just a conversation or when

00:24:15.710 --> 00:24:19.289
you're hearing uh like talking points about something

00:24:19.289 --> 00:24:23.250
like on the news or something political if if

00:24:23.250 --> 00:24:28.569
you understand and know the fallacies then you

00:24:28.569 --> 00:24:32.549
can really discern what the person's saying if

00:24:32.549 --> 00:24:35.829
they're you know trying to bs you or if they're

00:24:35.829 --> 00:24:39.490
really Some truth because I you know, I can almost

00:24:39.490 --> 00:24:42.450
guarantee you They're they're they're gonna have

00:24:42.450 --> 00:24:44.910
some of those Fallacies built into their talk

00:24:44.910 --> 00:24:46.490
points and they're in their arguments and you

00:24:46.490 --> 00:24:48.789
and you can pick up on that you can call either

00:24:48.789 --> 00:24:50.349
either call them out on it or just Pretend like

00:24:50.349 --> 00:24:52.829
get in here and just you know, you know for yourself.

00:24:53.049 --> 00:24:56.029
Okay, you're full of you know what because you

00:24:56.029 --> 00:24:59.190
just had two fallacies in that That what that

00:24:59.190 --> 00:25:02.170
one talking boy? It's you know, anyway, so that

00:25:02.170 --> 00:25:05.730
even something like that. Basically is that it's

00:25:05.730 --> 00:25:24.099
it's important you know exactly yeah just back

00:25:24.099 --> 00:25:28.420
to the basics and well remember like this we

00:25:28.420 --> 00:25:32.440
had talked about it before with um certain I

00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:36.440
just say that that scary word opportunities in

00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:42.519
quotes and air quotes and and how so many marketers

00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:48.700
and different people that just want to basically

00:25:48.700 --> 00:25:51.880
scam people out of their money and then calling

00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:55.900
it opportunity and being able to call bullshit

00:25:55.900 --> 00:25:59.880
on those things, you know, is I think, you know,

00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.509
priceless. to be able to say oh you know to stop

00:26:03.509 --> 00:26:06.630
and think about people's what they're thinking

00:26:06.630 --> 00:26:10.730
and what they're uh and be able to point it out

00:26:10.730 --> 00:26:13.289
pull out all of those things and think you know

00:26:13.289 --> 00:26:16.509
and if oh wow somebody's rushing me into a decision

00:26:16.509 --> 00:26:20.710
this might not be a good thing i you know i should

00:26:20.710 --> 00:26:23.170
probably that should be a red flag even more

00:26:23.170 --> 00:26:27.109
to pull back and think about it more and um you

00:26:27.109 --> 00:26:31.380
know Yeah, somebody says I need your answer now

00:26:31.380 --> 00:26:35.079
That's bad. Yeah, you just tell them I think

00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:37.720
I need to think about this and I'll get back

00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:40.619
to you Yeah, and if and if they keep pushing

00:26:40.619 --> 00:26:43.200
but it's like the cover car salesman Oh God,

00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:47.720
yeah I know cuz I I did that for about three

00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:53.859
months and I I know the whole routine and a lot

00:26:53.859 --> 00:26:59.210
of its BS I tried it for three months. Somebody

00:26:59.210 --> 00:27:02.809
at a friend told me, oh, you would be great at

00:27:02.809 --> 00:27:08.349
selling Hondas. And so I tried it. And I'm not

00:27:08.349 --> 00:27:13.890
a scammy person. And it's a fishy dog eat dog

00:27:13.890 --> 00:27:17.049
world. And they throw each other under the bus.

00:27:19.450 --> 00:27:26.670
And then on the used cars about how They you

00:27:26.670 --> 00:27:30.589
know there was one for instance on a used car

00:27:30.589 --> 00:27:34.490
They said I said this car the engine light is

00:27:34.490 --> 00:27:38.269
on The car is smoking and they said oh, we'll

00:27:38.269 --> 00:27:42.089
just Get it. We'll just take it to the thing

00:27:42.089 --> 00:27:44.269
and you just take them out on the ride anyway

00:27:44.269 --> 00:27:48.950
The car broke down on the road. I had no phone

00:27:49.429 --> 00:27:51.910
uh my phone was out of batteries and I had to

00:27:51.910 --> 00:27:54.869
go oh so would you mind if I use your phone to

00:27:54.869 --> 00:27:57.730
call for a ride so that we can get a ride back

00:27:57.730 --> 00:28:00.930
and then as we're waiting and I'm humiliated

00:28:00.930 --> 00:28:03.990
you know I just thought well for shit's sake

00:28:03.990 --> 00:28:06.190
uh for shits and giggles I'm just gonna say so

00:28:06.190 --> 00:28:07.950
when I get back what do you think about the car

00:28:07.950 --> 00:28:14.220
you ready to sign the paperwork I mean, you know,

00:28:14.460 --> 00:28:17.240
so I just couldn't do that anymore. I just like

00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.720
I can't do this. Some people, I guess if you're

00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.579
good at lying, but I mean, you learn a lot when

00:28:23.579 --> 00:28:27.380
you get get into a deal like that. I mean, I

00:28:27.380 --> 00:28:29.500
think there's some people that really mean well,

00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:35.559
but you have to be okay with lying to be a car

00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:37.960
salesman. And I can't do that. I couldn't do

00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.400
it. I can't sell anything. Yeah, so, I mean,

00:28:41.619 --> 00:28:46.200
I couldn't do it. Yep, so surprise! Right. Right.

00:28:50.359 --> 00:29:02.000
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Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

00:29:07.119 --> 00:30:43.619
Right. Right. Right. Enjoy! Yes, exactly. Well

00:30:43.619 --> 00:30:47.740
surgeon and you know, just gotta think a kid

00:30:47.740 --> 00:30:51.440
in high school right now will be 30 40 50 years

00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.160
old one day And so we you know, we say man if

00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.700
I knew if I knew them what I know now Well, they

00:30:57.700 --> 00:31:02.839
can have a chance to know that now while they're

00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:09.279
18 19 20 years old So I I've been scammed a lot

00:31:09.420 --> 00:31:13.599
And, you know, and I could see it. I don't like

00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.759
it being done to me and I couldn't stand it.

00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:21.099
Yeah. So and I don't want other people to be

00:31:21.099 --> 00:31:24.240
scammed either. I mean, I've been into so many

00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.720
multi -level marketing things that people say,

00:31:26.779 --> 00:31:30.099
oh, it's these are real products. So it's not

00:31:30.099 --> 00:31:35.240
a scam. Yeah. Yeah. I just if it doesn't feel

00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:38.200
right, go with your gut and. I think a lot of

00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.160
people try to take advantage of high schoolers

00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.440
even and people in their 20s especially because

00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.400
they want to make fast money. And the elderly.

00:31:48.660 --> 00:31:52.039
And the elderly. They will fish out money. It's

00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:54.759
like I always tell people if it sounds too good

00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.539
to be true, it's not a good thing. Not a good

00:31:58.539 --> 00:32:03.819
thing. So I just I want to help warn the young

00:32:03.819 --> 00:32:08.000
people too to not make those same mistakes of

00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.460
a thing of, I mean, because when times are hard

00:32:10.460 --> 00:32:12.259
and people are desperate, people are going to

00:32:12.259 --> 00:32:15.099
go for the scams even more because they're going

00:32:15.099 --> 00:32:18.039
to think, oh, yeah, this sounds good. And you're

00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.640
going to waste your time and money when you could

00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.900
just be figuring out what you're good at and

00:32:23.900 --> 00:32:29.619
get better and make a business of it. And that's,

00:32:29.619 --> 00:32:32.180
I think, what our point was with the Q3 show.

00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.859
to try and do that, but it was just for basically

00:32:35.859 --> 00:32:38.259
adults. But why not include the high schoolers

00:32:38.259 --> 00:32:41.559
in too? But I think the most vulnerable age group

00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.420
is high school, those preparing and coming out

00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:49.240
and that. But I would say it could be for anybody.

00:32:49.420 --> 00:32:52.319
I mean, there's a lot of people that are missing

00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:56.319
gap skills in communication. And who wants to

00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:58.940
admit that they weren't prepared for high school?

00:32:59.420 --> 00:33:03.279
This could be their podcast, too. to be able

00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:06.640
to learn the things that maybe they have missed,

00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.599
key communication things and I think there's

00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:12.599
a lot that we can offer to our young people and

00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:16.059
also maybe older people too who feel like they've

00:33:16.059 --> 00:33:18.119
missed out and they weren't prepared. Oh my gosh,

00:33:18.140 --> 00:33:21.339
I feel like I wasn't prepared and I've learned

00:33:21.339 --> 00:33:23.519
a lot, I read a lot and I would just like to

00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.819
pass that knowledge along and work with people

00:33:25.819 --> 00:33:27.660
directly and that's the whole purpose of our

00:33:27.660 --> 00:33:30.299
membership. That's why I wanted to create that

00:33:30.299 --> 00:33:45.339
space for for them Exactly Yeah learning from

00:33:45.339 --> 00:33:47.859
other people's mistakes and I've made a lot of

00:33:47.859 --> 00:33:51.220
them and I don't want people to repeat it that's

00:33:51.220 --> 00:33:56.779
for sure Yeah And to our dear listeners, if you're

00:33:56.779 --> 00:33:59.279
hearing a lot of shooing away, we have two lovely

00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.900
dogs. One is Whiskey's birthday. So he's an attention

00:34:02.900 --> 00:34:05.400
whore and he wants a lot of attention on his

00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:09.139
birthday. So you can wish Whiskey a happy birthday.

00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.900
Yes. The mischievous one. The mischievous one.

00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:17.119
So that's the way lovely animals are. So we have

00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:21.280
pets. So we get to... You know, and we love them,

00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:26.460
they're family. I'm Auntie Jen, and that's what

00:34:26.460 --> 00:34:28.719
the Squeaky is. And you'll be seeing them at

00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.260
our seminars. Yep. They'll be coming along. Yep.

00:34:32.460 --> 00:34:34.599
All the pets will be coming because pets are

00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:39.920
family. That's right. And Ramon's got a future

00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:43.800
dog coming and so do I. Yeah. So we'll have that.

00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:49.070
They'll have their own little table. Yeah. Well.

00:34:51.050 --> 00:34:55.090
Oh, that'll work. Yeah. Well, you know, with

00:34:55.090 --> 00:34:59.070
the dogs. We already got the next two after this

00:34:59.070 --> 00:35:04.030
one that will be dropping in March. We have April

00:35:04.030 --> 00:35:07.610
and May episodes already ready that will be ready

00:35:07.610 --> 00:35:11.349
to for you. They're already scheduled the last

00:35:11.349 --> 00:35:14.829
Wednesday in April and May. And then we're going

00:35:14.829 --> 00:35:17.090
to come back together for the season finale.

00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:20.039
and then we'll be out for the summer preparing

00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:24.980
for season four. So I'm looking forward to that.

00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:28.019
And we do have the membership, the Beta Omega

00:35:28.019 --> 00:35:32.219
membership league. One idea, Ramon, that I think

00:35:32.219 --> 00:35:36.460
it would be great to tell our listeners. And

00:35:36.460 --> 00:35:38.239
we just want to make sure we're all in a group.

00:35:38.340 --> 00:35:42.059
We hardly ever see each other. But I was thinking.

00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.980
In order to motivate our nice listeners, I had

00:35:46.980 --> 00:35:50.980
described the last episode about how we were

00:35:50.980 --> 00:35:55.199
going to do, we described it like a Costco, kind

00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:57.760
of like where you pay a membership, small membership

00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:01.059
fee, and then you can get other things at discount

00:36:01.059 --> 00:36:05.280
and a lot of freebies for just $35. I was charging

00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:09.619
$300 a month to go see it for my students that

00:36:09.619 --> 00:36:14.409
I would help. And I thought, gosh, for 35 bucks

00:36:14.409 --> 00:36:17.610
a month to test out our courses that we're going

00:36:17.610 --> 00:36:20.269
to put to full market price, which would be in

00:36:20.269 --> 00:36:23.650
the hundreds of dollars, you know, I mean, not

00:36:23.650 --> 00:36:25.849
too terribly expensive. Most of the courses I

00:36:25.849 --> 00:36:29.409
think that I see out there are, you know, that

00:36:29.409 --> 00:36:34.409
involved engagement with the instructors go for

00:36:34.409 --> 00:36:37.570
closer to a thousand dollars. And we're just

00:36:37.570 --> 00:36:41.159
charging thirty five dollars for to test out

00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:45.000
for feedback, but we would have that all be free

00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:48.420
for all of season four just for feedback. We're

00:36:48.420 --> 00:36:52.219
$35 a month and they can test the courses out,

00:36:52.659 --> 00:36:55.199
our book club and other ideas that we come up

00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:01.179
with and their ideas too. So, I don't know. I

00:37:01.179 --> 00:37:04.039
couldn't think of a better deal to be able to

00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:07.610
test it out, to be able to test out courses and

00:37:07.610 --> 00:37:09.909
other ideas that we come up with, or even that

00:37:09.909 --> 00:37:11.730
they come up with, that they could be a part

00:37:11.730 --> 00:37:15.070
of unpopular playground for us to be able to

00:37:15.070 --> 00:37:21.090
bring all of this wisdom to the world. Yep. You

00:37:21.090 --> 00:37:24.929
snooze, you lose. It's a phenomenal deal. If

00:37:24.929 --> 00:37:29.909
you're listening and you need this, then be one

00:37:29.909 --> 00:37:35.190
of the first. It's worth it. It's worth it. As

00:37:35.190 --> 00:37:39.489
soon as now. All you have to do is reach out.

00:37:39.750 --> 00:37:42.210
Right now, you can reach out at Instagram at

00:37:42.210 --> 00:37:45.190
unpopular playground 1791 on Instagram, but we're

00:37:45.190 --> 00:37:47.369
going to have more information on how to contact

00:37:47.369 --> 00:37:50.489
us later. We're just trying to figure out our

00:37:50.489 --> 00:37:56.949
technology. He's our IT guy. Yeah. Did we cut

00:37:56.949 --> 00:38:01.849
out? Did we cut out? Oh, no. Oh, my. Well, we'll

00:38:01.849 --> 00:38:06.039
figure it out. It might still get it. But If

00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.980
it cut out, we'll figure it out. So, dear listeners,

00:38:10.219 --> 00:38:11.840
if you're listening and it cut out a little bit,

00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.380
we're going to work it out the best we can. We're

00:38:15.380 --> 00:38:19.079
ironing out all the wrinkles now. Yeah. Not sure

00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.039
where you left out, but we were talking about

00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:24.900
the Launchpad Summit 2026 about getting on the

00:38:24.900 --> 00:38:29.260
waiting list. Yep. and you have to be a beta

00:38:29.260 --> 00:38:32.539
league, beta omega league member and you can

00:38:32.539 --> 00:38:34.960
sign up on buy me a coffee and we'll put that

00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.460
in the show notes. But we're looking for our

00:38:37.460 --> 00:38:42.159
first 25 people to sign up and those people will

00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.480
get a special golden passport which will include

00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.760
special benefits, lifetime benefits for being

00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:52.019
our first investors and that information will

00:38:52.019 --> 00:38:58.059
come later. So pretty exciting. Yes. Be like

00:38:58.059 --> 00:39:02.460
the golden ticket for Willy Wonka. Yeah. So yeah,

00:39:03.139 --> 00:39:05.380
yeah. Kind of like the I don't know, it makes

00:39:05.380 --> 00:39:08.559
me think of like the at Disneyland, they have

00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:12.619
the Club 33 members that are that you know, they

00:39:12.619 --> 00:39:17.380
get all these special benefits and perks that

00:39:17.380 --> 00:39:21.800
everybody else doesn't get. So yeah, so that's

00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.739
what would be it and our first 25 members. If

00:39:24.739 --> 00:39:27.699
you have a golden passport, you'll get, if you

00:39:27.699 --> 00:39:30.780
decide to come sign up for the summit and come

00:39:30.780 --> 00:39:34.260
to the Launchpad Summit in 2026, you'll have

00:39:34.260 --> 00:39:36.559
a, there'll be a special gold table that you'll

00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.940
be seated with. Oh yeah. Well, the awesome thing

00:39:39.940 --> 00:39:42.679
about this is we can do the coaching. Right.

00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.619
Through the, we can do, you know, a little bit

00:39:45.619 --> 00:39:47.840
of coaching. We can do drawings for coachings,

00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:49.940
birthday drawings for the people that are in

00:39:49.940 --> 00:39:54.480
the league, which will be super cool. Life coaching.

00:39:54.940 --> 00:39:57.219
A little bit of life coaching for the people

00:39:57.219 --> 00:39:59.880
that are in the members, people that are in the

00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:03.440
membership. The people that are first to join,

00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:08.219
because we're going to open it up to 5 ,000 people

00:40:08.219 --> 00:40:12.519
and we're cutting off the limit at that. But

00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:16.099
the sooner you get in, you'll get all this personal

00:40:16.099 --> 00:40:19.360
one -on -one treatment. that you normally won't

00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.920
get when more people come, and I believe they

00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.900
will come. A word of mouth. A word of mouth.

00:40:25.940 --> 00:40:28.360
A word of mouth will bring the business. And

00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:35.599
it does. That's right. Woohoo! So that is, that's

00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.920
all I can think of, really, for the hangout.

00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:42.300
We just, the whole purpose of this was to introduce

00:40:42.300 --> 00:40:45.900
you, Ramon, figure out what's been going on.

00:40:46.110 --> 00:40:48.590
what's going on and what's to come. Is there

00:40:48.590 --> 00:40:53.250
anything else you can think of, Ramon? I've said

00:40:53.250 --> 00:40:56.269
all I wanted to say for now. I just want to help

00:40:56.269 --> 00:40:59.289
people wherever they are. So that's really what

00:40:59.289 --> 00:41:03.750
I want to find out where most people are in life

00:41:03.750 --> 00:41:06.730
and what exactly they need. That's what's exciting

00:41:06.730 --> 00:41:09.769
to me just to find out. Okay. What's the, I guess,

00:41:09.869 --> 00:41:13.110
theme or like, what's the most common thing we're

00:41:13.110 --> 00:41:16.449
struggling with? you know, how can we best serve

00:41:16.449 --> 00:41:24.090
them? One of our taglines is stay curious. That's

00:41:24.090 --> 00:41:27.750
what we like to end with. And so I guess if you

00:41:27.750 --> 00:41:30.010
don't have anything else, Ramon, and you don't

00:41:30.010 --> 00:41:32.809
have anything else, Debbie, we'll go ahead and

00:41:32.809 --> 00:41:35.789
conclude this episode up. Does that sound good

00:41:35.789 --> 00:41:38.269
with everybody? Sounds good. I think we tackled

00:41:38.269 --> 00:41:41.269
a lot of what we want. And then we'll meet up

00:41:41.269 --> 00:41:45.230
again in May. So thank you for listening, everybody.

00:41:46.090 --> 00:41:50.530
And one, two, three, let's all say three together.

00:41:51.550 --> 00:41:59.909
Stay curious. Keep shining. I love it. All right.

00:42:00.510 --> 00:42:06.750
Be yourself. Be yourself. I love it. Thank you.

00:42:09.110 --> 00:42:14.130
And keep shining. Keep shining, everybody. Alright,

00:42:14.250 --> 00:42:21.909
welcome to the PS portion here at the end. We're

00:42:21.909 --> 00:42:26.210
announcing an exciting pivot. This is Jen Lynn

00:42:26.210 --> 00:42:33.070
here. Have you ever figured it out? Yes, we are

00:42:33.070 --> 00:42:36.929
pivoting our direction, focusing on quality,

00:42:38.030 --> 00:42:42.769
always over quantity. While the big ideas from

00:42:42.769 --> 00:42:47.650
our previous discussion will be implemented,

00:42:48.690 --> 00:42:54.329
it will be done incrementally because our primary

00:42:54.329 --> 00:42:57.590
goal is to enhance the value that we deliver

00:42:57.590 --> 00:43:02.969
without compromising on excellence. To start,

00:43:04.070 --> 00:43:07.150
we're going to be increasing our content frequency

00:43:07.150 --> 00:43:13.340
while narrowing our beta test group to just 25

00:43:13.340 --> 00:43:19.860
dedicated members. And this allows us to elaborate

00:43:19.860 --> 00:43:27.960
closely and to ensure the value we provide is

00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:35.360
impactful with the confidence that what benefits

00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:41.369
you will benefit others as well. And we're thrilled

00:43:41.369 --> 00:43:47.030
to introduce our golden passport beta testing

00:43:47.030 --> 00:43:56.510
program. A future episode will be put out to

00:43:56.510 --> 00:44:02.489
describe more details. For now, we're gonna be

00:44:02.489 --> 00:44:08.730
starting a waiting list For this And we will

00:44:08.730 --> 00:44:13.170
have an additional We will have an additional

00:44:13.170 --> 00:44:20.429
episode with details on how to apply With only

00:44:20.429 --> 00:44:23.269
three of us on the team we want to make sure

00:44:23.269 --> 00:44:31.030
that this small focus group Is the best fit for

00:44:31.030 --> 00:44:36.530
all involved we want to ensure that all Participants

00:44:36.530 --> 00:44:42.510
are motivated and ready to apply the insights

00:44:42.510 --> 00:44:47.809
that we share that we will share with you. We

00:44:47.809 --> 00:44:52.170
have a plethora of thought -provoking content

00:44:52.170 --> 00:45:10.659
lined up for April and May. last week which we

00:45:10.659 --> 00:45:15.940
are going to call our finals week we're going

00:45:15.940 --> 00:45:22.280
to debut our season four preview with the live

00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:26.920
episode we're going to be doing that on stream

00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:33.159
yard and this will launch into our summer recess

00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:39.719
sessions which will be bi -weekly live opportunities

00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:45.639
to connect directly with us and this will help

00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:54.179
to shape your future content. If we're available

00:45:54.179 --> 00:46:03.269
we may go extra. but we guarantee that we will

00:46:03.269 --> 00:46:08.530
go no less than bi -weekly over the summer. Our

00:46:08.530 --> 00:46:13.750
original plan was going to go take a recess away

00:46:13.750 --> 00:46:18.289
from the summer for the entire month of July

00:46:18.289 --> 00:46:26.429
and August away and take a break and then resume

00:46:26.429 --> 00:46:34.119
in September but we decided that we don't want

00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:44.780
you to go that long without something so we're

00:46:44.780 --> 00:46:49.099
excited to be able to continue on through the

00:46:49.099 --> 00:46:54.719
summer to be able to nurture you and as we transition

00:46:54.719 --> 00:47:01.119
into a weekly live session Week that's right.

00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:06.659
You heard right weekly live sessions in season

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